September 10, 2024 • 36 mins
More of Clay and Buck's advice for Trump in the debate. MSNBC host and former White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, says Haitian immigrants aren't eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, calls it racist and xenophobic. Rep. Eric Swalwell loses it over Trump cat and duck memes. Rep. Warren Davidson of Ohio joins Clay and Buck to discuss what's really going on in Springfield, Ohio. Callers give opinions on Willie Brown-Kamala Harris past relationship.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in our number three Klay Travis buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
now doing the final hour before what might be the
final debate of the twenty twenty four presidential election. Trump
knocked out Joe Biden, as we all know, on June
twenty seventh. It's crazy to think about everything that has
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happened in this country since June twenty seventh assassination attempt
on Trump. July thirteenth, Biden drops out of the race.
July twenty first, Kamala Harris, now the nominee for over
fifty days, barely has talked to the media at all.
One sit down interview with CNN with Tim Wall sitting
beside her, and now we are on to what may
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well be the only debate between these two candidates. Trump
proposed multiple debates, including one that was supposed to be
moderated by Martha McCollum and Brett Bayer on Fox New
September fourth. Kamala was afraid to do it. Trump has
agreed to one later in the year, but now I
would say the fact that Kamala hasn't agreed to it
at all. If things go well, tonight and Trump is
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in the lead, and he is maintaining his lead, and
that is what his internal polls show that. I don't
think it makes sense at all for Trump to do
a second debate again. We'll have to assess how this
first one goes. But Buck, as we teased and went
to break, I said that you and I would give
our best one or two or three or whatever the
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number is points of advice for Trump against Kamala. I
will start. I've been on this for some time. I
think the most important thing for Trump to do is
actually return every time he can to the economy, to
border and to crime, the actual issues, and force Kamala
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to be responsible for the fact that she is wrong
on all those things. And I actually thought, Bill O'Reilly,
encourage you to go download the podcasting, search out my name,
Clay Travishings or child Buck Sexton, make sure that you
didn't miss anything. I actually thought his echoing of a
famous line from Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty is actually important,
and it kind of reverberates in two ways for me.
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One Reagan memorably asked, Carter, are you better off now
than you were four years ago? Every single American has
to say no after the Kamala Biden administration. I also
think I legitimately can't name one thing that Kamala Harris
has done well since she got into office. And that's
not me trying to speak in hyperbole. I can't name
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one thing, even if I were trying to be incredibly
generous to her, that her actions have made better in
the United States. COVID is better now, for instance, than
it was in twenty twenty one, but that's mostly just
because people have gotten saner and come back to their
regular lives. Other than that, Buck, can you point to
anything since January of twenty twenty one that you think
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hey by done a pretty good job on this? I
legitimately can't even point to anything that Biden and Kamala
have made better. I think to the extent that Trump
goes back to that again and again and again, make
that your foundational aspect of this debate, He's going to
at worst tie and guarantee that Kamala can't win, which
is important considering he's in the league.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Look, I think that Trump uh the most important thing
he can do in this debate other.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Than the decorum and and.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Style aspects of this we've talked about, which is basically,
you know, don't don't lose your cool, don't let her
go under your skin. And we know what when Trump
loses cool, it's not that he doesn't get flustered, or
it's that he starts taking big. He's nasty, right, and
he can he's he can get. You know, if you
get in the mud with Trump, he'll jump right in
the mud, right. So we're hoping that that doesn't happen.
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But the important stuff just say, look look at the
economy and look at the trajectory of the country when
I was president. We're going to do it again. So
we're going to do it again. I think is an
important theme for him to hit, meaning everyone's going to
be making more money. You know, prices are going to
come down, conomy's going to be thriving, energy production is
going to skyrocket, all the things that he's already proven
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he can do. I think that any pivots to Kamala
is the number two of a failed administration, such a
failure that they don't even have an incumbent president running
for reelection. I think that says a lot. So Kamala
is the number two of a failure. Why do you
want to make her the number one of her own
failure for four more years? And then I think it's
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important for Trump to just point out that that, you know,
he's he tells American people who he is and what
he wants to do, and that Kamala Harris's entire campaign
is about hiding who she is, lying about her record,
and being dishonest about what she would really do if
she had four years in the White House. And I
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think he hits. I think that one of the best
ways to do that is to bring up the b
order issue specifically and just say ten he's I said
it yesterday, Clay ten million plus ten million. Yeah, if
someone told me that Biden was going to allow ten
million plus maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It's twelve million in whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
The actual number is ten million plus illegals into the
country in four years. And you know, I follow this
issue very closely for a long time. I would have said,
I think that's high. I think that's hot. Yeah, I
think it might be you know, three or four million,
which is a which is a ton. I don't think
it's going to be ten plus.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Ten plus million in four And you know, I.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Got into this a little bit yesterday with you were
talking about the TPS and I even tweeted something about it,
and I was like, oh, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No, it is true.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Biden has found new and creative ways to abuse executive
authority to bring in, not even just allow in, to
bring in people. There are people are filling out, you know,
on an app Oh yeah, I need asylum in America,
and then they're legally coming into the country. They're lying
about their asylum claim. They're never going to get expelled
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once they get here. Disaster hammering on the border because
it touches on so much of the economy, and on crime,
and on sovereignty and the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's what I hope Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, if he does those things, I think that's
as much as you can ask for, and he comes
away way out ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I think, focusing on the amount of money that we
are now spending. Using that revelation that, to their credit,
CNN reported on yesterday Kamala and addressing her, Look, we
can't take care of the white, Black, Asian and Hispanic
people who are citizens of the United States that need
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the help of this country to be able to take
care of themselves and their families. We don't have the money.
She said she wants to give illegal immigrants sex change
surgery paid for by tax payers. That is so banana
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lan bonkers crazy to me that I think it cuts
through much of the noise associated with the border. Sometimes
you need a sentence that really kind of sums up
how broken a policy can be, because it gets right
to the essence of things. We can't take care of
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our veterans in this country, and we're going to be
paying to change the genitals of illegal immigrants when they
come into the country a verst All. I don't know
how many illegal immigrants want to change their gender, but
the fact that the Democrat Party would actually have any
members who would even think to do this is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I would have to dig into it a little bit,
but my spidey sense is that a part of it
was they've been lying about the asylum claim so much
that everyone's figuring out and saying, you have a credible
fear of violence in filling the blank country. A lot
of countries, especially to our south, are very violent, very corrupt,
and very violent.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
HM.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That doesn't mean that you actually qualify for asylum, because
otherwise all of Venezuela could get asylum, right, but if
you are going to start claiming that you are trans
and you're being haabinated against and you're being discriminated against,
and that you need to start the process of at
least going through you know, the therapy or whatever it is, now,
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you maybe can actually have your asylum claim heard and
you could come out winning on the asylum issue. And
I think that's why. Basically, I think it is the
plan of Democrats. And I mean this, and as crazy
as this may sound, ten years ago, I was like,
you know, they're going to let guys just manhandle women
in sports and they're going to be fine with it,
and everyone's like, no way, yes, way. They want America
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to be the global refuge for people who claim that
they are discriminated against because they are pan sexual or
non binary, which is fascinating because like, how do you.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Prove that, how do you disprove it or what is it?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, so it effectively becomes one more loophole, and obviously,
you know, being trans goes into this the same bucket,
so to speak. So that's what I see. But yeah, Clay,
back to the initial point what Kama said about that
is absolutely crazy and she can't be allowed to get
away with the My principles have remained the same. How
does that work? Exactly like what my values? My values
(09:30):
haven't changed, my value. I'm sorry, that's what she said,
My values haven't changed. Well, if your values haven't changed,
why have your position's changed.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, it's an easy follow up, of course, that Dana
Bash didn't ask my one liner advice to Trump, And
I said this an hour one. I'll echo it again.
I really think he would win the debate. And this
was a listener reader suggestion sent in to me. I
try to read emails, even if I don't respond. I
try to read everything that I get. And he wrote
(09:58):
in and he said, and I think it's true that
if Trump started off the debate tonight, whatever the first
question is, by saying before I answer that, I just
want to say something is probably going to shock a
lot of people. Thank you, Kamala Harris, because if you
hadn't been such a disaster at the border, and if
you hadn't let over ten million people come in illegally,
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I wouldn't have had that graphic with me in Pennsylvania.
When I turned to look at it, that saved my life.
Your failure at the border to allow ten million people
in was so baved his life.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You really think you should tell Kamala thank you for
saving my life. I don't know, Clay, I think that
might actually work. That might be a little weird. It
might be a little little Actually.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Kamal has saved my life. Everybody, your border failures saved
my life, but unfortunately they've cost a lot of other
people their lives. I think it would be a ooh,
like just bringing home because the only reason he's not
dead is because he turned his head to look at
the graphic of all of the legal immigrants that came
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into this nation. If he didn't have that graphic, he'd
be dead. I mean that is because Kama has done
such a bad job. And I think it would pop.
I think it would draw attention, and I think it
puts her immediately on the defensive to try to explain
why she now wants a border and why she has pivoted,
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and why she is panicked as she tries to pretend
that all of the things that she previously supported she
no longer supports. Will take some of your calls, by
the way, eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two and a lot of you, I think have
a lot of things that you want to weigh in on.
And again we're gonna get you a little bit more
information about what's been going on in the Springfield, Ohio area,
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which has become a flashpoint for the immigration changes that
are taking place all over the country. We're going to
talk to Warren Davidson who represents the area near Springfield,
Ohio that has been so overrun with Haitian immigrants that's
still and again we'll take your calls as we break
all of that down and more, and maybe some women
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out there want to weigh in on the great debate
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Speaker 3 (13:36):
This is an actual statement given to NBC News from
the Springfield, Ohio Police Force quote. There have been no
credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured,
or abused by individuals within the immigrant community. Now, the
Springfield News Sun did know that one hundred and seventy
five miles away from there, there was reportedly a bizarre
incident of one woman who was charged with cruelty to
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companion animals for allegedly killing and eating a cat. But
there's no evidence she is an immigrant. She definitely wasn't
living in Springfield, and that one crazy story hardly warrants
a claim that Vice President Harrison immigrants are out to.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Kill all of your pets.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Not only is this right wing conspiracy theory totally falls
and obviously completely xenophobic, it's really not helping the perception
out there that Jade Vance, Donald Trump and the rest
of their party are just playing weird.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The weird thing from Jensaki. Again, I think they laid
off that a little bit after Tim Walls was making
the rounds.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Everyone's like, this guy is a weirdo.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I also think that, in classic straw Man fashion, you
have the former White House Press secretary exaggerating what the
claims are and ignoring the evidence that she doesn't. Like, Okay,
you know, we're talking about whether there were pets that
have been you know, captured and eaten or ducks in
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the Park or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
People have said.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Some of the citizens of the town of Springfield, Ohio
have gone on the record publicly and said this has
happened to them where people that they know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Apparently MSNBC knows more than they do of what's happening
in Springfield.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
But what we do know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Without question is there are twenty thousand Haitian TPS recipients
temporary protected status and people they understand and I know
everyone gets all fired up about this. It is a
legal status conferred upon people temporarily, the same way that
if you are waiting your asylum hearing, you are, in essence,
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it's kind of a limbo, but you're legally waiting for
an asylum hearing. This is how we get all caught
up in this stuff. But they are under TPS, twenty
thousand Haitians in the Springfield, Ohio area. They are overcrowding resources,
they are causing lots of problems in terms of public
services and a whole range of other things. And Democrats
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basically just turn around and say your xenophobic or you're
racist or both. I mean, that's the answer to everything
with this. But we'll talk to a congressman from just
in the Springfield area. Here Clay in a moment and
ask him, look, what's going on. We always want the facts,
we want the truth. We're not in all places at
all times. If people say this happened in my backyard
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and they're going to public forums and saying that, I
think we can report of that and say that someone
said this.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Happen to them in their backyard. This also is driving
democrats crazy, which must mean that it's having some impact
on them. Here's Eric Swaalwell a little bit earlier, who
slept with a Chinese spy losing his mind about Trump.
Cat and duck. Memes that he is upset are spreading
(16:44):
on social media. Listen, what in the hell is this?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
The chairman tweets protect our ducks and kittens in Ohio
because he goes some down, goes down some crazy rabbit hole,
completely debunked that alien.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Are eating pets. My god, are you okay.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Mister chairman. I don't know why you would do this.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I hope you're okay.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I don't know if the aliens who are eating your
ducks are in the room with us right now, But
mister Chairman, this.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is a serious issue.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
These people have loved ones who have been lost, and
you tweeted this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I mean he is so I mean I think he's
legitimately very dumb buck, but also he has no sense
of humor satire ability, like objectively whatever you think about this. Yeah,
cat and duck memes are hysterical. I don't even know
what Fang Fang saw on him, you know, looking back
on it now, maybe his fank access to Congress. Feng
(17:52):
Fang may well have been eating some cats or ducks
back into her life. Who know, it's fun. That's what
he gets all riled up about all of the memes.
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back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Oh hope all
of you are having a fantastic Tuesday. I hope that
you are layering up, if necessary, on some caffeine to
be able to stay up. Tonight nine pm Eastern on
the East Coast, ten thirty will be the ending time
in Theory, probably a little bit past that. We are
joined now by Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. I don't
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know if you have seen the clip of Eric Swalwell
going crazy talking about all the Trump kitten and duck memes.
They are hysterical for those of you out there that
are not active on social media. Many people have decided
to have fun with the kitten and duck allegations coming
out of Springfield, Ohio. With outrageous, outlandish and frankly hysterical
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memes of Donald Trump saving kittens and ducks. Eric Swalwell
is very angry. But what in the world is actually
going on? Congressman, you represent this area just beside it
where all of this chaos has been unfurling asociated with
immigrants overloading. I believe it's Springfield, Ohio. What is actually
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going on? What are you seeing in the community. What
can you tell us about the impact of in many
ways unrestrained immigration in your congressional district and nearby areas.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, thanks for having me on, really and honored to
join you all. And look, I too have enjoyed some
of the humor that's been out there, and in particular
as JD vance is now has childless cat ladies are
part of the JD vance fan club again, So we're
on track with the team that's going to save the kittens.
(20:39):
But the reality is on the ground. You know, Springfield's
a great community of about sixty thousand people, long time
manufacturing community, a lot like what you know Ohio has
experienced with you know, quote the rust Belt for a time,
you had great factory jobs for a long time, and
as the economy changed, a lot of things got hollowed out,
and communities had to change. Field has done a great
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job of attracting investment. They're growing nicely and for a
long time they've had All of western Ohio has had
the challenge. We could grow faster if we could just
get a strong workforce. And you know, as you look
at the immigrant population that wants to work, they're attracted
to places that have jobs, and you know Springfield has that,
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most of western Ohio has that, and and so you
could see why, you know, people that are coming here,
if they want to work, they would come someplace like Springfield, Ohio.
The challenge has been the bite administration has had just
an open border process that's flooded our country with lots
of people who are illegals. They've abused the refugee process.
And the challenge in Springfield isn't it just that the
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initial refugee comes. It's that each person can bring through
chain migration, like six family members, and so that has
a you know, be fruitful and multiply kind of effect
at a rapid pace. I mean, if a family is
fruitful and multiplies, it takes a generation to raise the kids.
When you bring in somebody into the country, even if
they have the most credible claim to refugee status that
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you could imagine. If you can bring six times as
many more people in right away, it's easy to see
how one community gets overwhelmed. And that's what's going on
on the ground in Springfield. If you brought twenty thousand
people from California, it would overwhelm a community of sixty
thousand people. And the culture in California is a little different,
safe to say, the culture in Haiti is a whole
lot different than the culture in spring To, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So when you see these stories, congressmen and people are
concerned about this, it sounds like there is an understandable
friction that could happen with such a massive change in
the area, or rather that this is what people could expect.
Are you seeing that there's any help coming from either
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the state or the federal government to assist with some
of this. I mean you're talking about things like overcrowding
and hospitals and schools and things like that. It sounds
like the community is just left to bear the burden.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, that's the real problem. Look, the federal government clearly
isn't being helpful. They're causing the problem to be worse,
frankly and very unsympathetic. They're not responsive even when local
law enforcement wants to raise issues for the people that
are illegal. Even in those cases, the federal government's not responsive.
The challenge of in the state hasn't been incredibly helpful either.
(23:26):
There are a lot of resources. Look, some of this
is driven by federal policy, where every refugee is getting
six hundred to sixteen hundred dollars in cash assistance for
the Refugee Cash Assistance Program, and they're automatically eligible for
every means tested program that America has. So you've got
individual refugees who are newly arrived, let's say, straight from Haiti,
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and they're getting more federal benefit than you've got people
that worked a lifetime and put money into Social Security
and Medicare. So they're eligible for every kind of program
that you could imagine. And there are flaws at the
federal level, but there are things at the state level
that schools are being told they need to admit. You know,
Haitians that appear to be twenty years old as freshmen
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in high school, and you know that's causing problems you've
got massive influx of people that can't speak English and
so no resources for translators. It's safe to say we
don't have a lot of local you know, native speakers
for Haiti in western Ohio, and so we need resources
from the federal and state government to be able to
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do some of those things. And you know, look, I
used to represent that district. Under the new redistricting. That's
a different members of Congress, but I think the whole
delegation is united and saying, look, we recognize that there
are legitimate refugees and other places around the world, we
want to be a welcoming place for people that come legally.
But really what you're seeing is the limits of even
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legal immigration, where you are very sympathetic, are being tested
here and a big part of it is that migration problem.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
We're talking to. Congressman Warren Davidson. The New York Times,
among others, has said that everything being said about Springfield,
Ohio is basically made up. We played yesterday many of
the viral clips from the town city council meeting of
people laying out what they are saying For people out
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there who read The New York Times. Congressman and say, oh,
this is all a made up story. I believe a
young kid was killed by a Haitian immigrant on his
way to the first day of school. That occurred, It's
happening in districts all over the place. But what would
you say to the New York Times is of the
world that have decided to parachute in on this story
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and say this isn't true.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, I mean, they're not trustworthy sources. The controlled media
continues to cover for the Biden administration on every front.
I mean, they've continually lied. We know they're lying, they
know we know they're lying, and they keep lying. This
is just another instance where they're whatever they need to
say to cover for the Biden Harris administration. They're going
to say the reality is coming out under the ground
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and talk to people, and you know, you'll find people
in the community that are fed up and don't want
anybody to come, whether they're legal or not. But you
also find people that are like, yeah, I'm sympathetic. I
understand how bad of a place Haiti is right now.
We want to welcome them. But let's not pretend, well,
you're not being overwhelmed here. We've got issues to deal
with and to say that all of these things are false,
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that itself is clearly false, and so it's not rising
to this attention because it's some manufactured story. The reality
is this is what people in the community are dealing with.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Congressman, appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much for
making the time.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, thank you guys for highlighting it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
We come back. We'll take some of your calls eight
hundred and two two eight A two roll you into
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Speaker 2 (28:45):
Big debate coming up tonight. So we're closing up shop
for now on Clay and Buck. We will be watching,
We will be taking notes, making a list, checking it twice,
and tomorrow we will tell you who was naughty and
who was nice up on that debate stage.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
We'll get some of your calls here and also get
some of your VIP emails if we had the time.
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ip please all right, I'll take you. I will take it.
Kelly and Houston starts off with Clay is right. That's
all I can see on my screen.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I never loved you, Kelly. I don't know. I didn't
know that you had a cousin who lived in Houston. Clay,
what's going on? Kelly?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Hey, guys, I actually live in Caryln, North Carolina. I'm
visiting Houston, and I just think Clay is right. I
have been married to my husband for.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Thirty four years.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
He's worked in corporate America the whole time. And I
just got to say, I wouldn't be a fan of
some skink who is sleeping around with you know, guys
that are working with my husband and sleeping.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Right, But you were voting Trump anyway, right, like you're
all in on Trump.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'm assuming, well maybe.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I'm you know, a little undecided.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh really, I mean, because I do think my theory
on this, for those who just got in their car
is that if you don't like Trump's character, Kamala's character
is equally imperfect in many ways. In fact, I think
arguably worse because she's actually benefited from some of what
she has been willing to do. Trump has only take
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n hits and Trump is And this will sound a
little bit sick of fan thank you, Kelly for some people,
thank you, But you know, Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Is actually funny and charismatic, which.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Kamala is not. So that's correct.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't think anyone really disagrees with that. Dennis in
South Carolina, I feel like I like where Dennis is going.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Dennis absolutely buck Hey, listen, Obviously I'm not a suburban housewife,
but I've been married forty four years I've also got
an eighty two year old mom that lives with us,
and I agree with you one hundred percent. In fact, Buck,
if you've got welles too late now. But I was
going to say, if you've got some way to mute
plays micro rest of the show, you need to do
it before Trump or someone in his camp. Here's Trey,
(30:58):
you know, his political advice Mount Pratt. In my opinion, Uh,
he's just so off based that you know, it's kind
of like when he when he talked about John Fetterman
and I like Clay. I don't mean to say that
I like him a lot, but I.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Mean I'm here. You know I'm not dead, you can
I'm here on the.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Show you were for once.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
You were stunned into silence there for a minute, Clay.
And so I won't at least say I like you
a lot, and I've enjoyed you for years and out, kid,
But you know, I just think the personal attacks. I've
been in sales for a long time, I've owned my
own business. Is one of the first things they teach
is don't you know, don't knock down the other your competition,
your your competition's products, because it just makes you look
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heavy and small, and and that's the one thing Trump's
always done and I hate it. I voted for him twice,
I'll vote for him again each time. We're more pride.
I love his policies. But when he does that, my wife,
my mom, other women in my life, they just they
almost cringe, just like, why is he doing that? Why
is he getting personal? I just don't see it helping
him at.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Well, Dennis, thank you for the call. Dennis. What I
agree with you you on is I'm not saying Trump
should do it in the debate. I'm saying that I
think people like me, or Buck or some of you
out there, a lot of people don't know Kamala Harris
very well. They don't know her backstory. Where Buck and
I disagree is I think there are women and maybe men,
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but certainly women that are persuadable that don't like Trump personally,
that have bought into the idea that, oh, Kamala Harris,
she's a bright, shining light of truth and justice in
the American way, and actually she has a sordid past
of her own. And then if you cancel out double
sordid past, it brings you back to issues. Buck doesn't
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buy it. She had enough.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think it was thirty years ago. I was like
in I was in grammar school when she had this affair.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I don't think anyone cares. But it's the reason why
she got started in politics. That is the foundation. She
began her life in politics to get paid four hundred
thousand dollars as the side chick of someone.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I think everyone who likes or leans Trump and was
voting Trump, here's this and goes exactly, that's why I'm
voting Trump. But I know our caller, I think she
was playing a little fast and loose there a minute ago.
She's like, well, she's voting Trump. Okay, what about the.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Question we need to take calls post debate? Buck, what
percentage of our audience do you think truly doesn't know
how they're going to vote? Our audience? Yes, less than
five percent. Yeah, I think that's about right. Yeah, so
we're talking about a tiny subset. Maybe we'll take calls
only from people who don't know how they're going to
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vote and ask them that I don't know how it's possible.
I mean, I'm just gonna say this, I don't know
how it's possible to really not know how you're going
to vote unless you just don't pay attention to politics
at all. If you don't, like, like, someone could ask
me who's going to win, you know, Alabama or like
the University of Southwest Boise or something, and I might
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not until I at least started doing this show, I
would not have known. I've feel like I have absolutely
no idea because I didn't pay attention to that at all.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You have to be, to me, at almost that level
of political attention paid in order to not know who
you're voting for now. But there are people who don't
pay that much attention to it and they don't know
who they're voting for, or maybe they're struggling over one thing.
They're single issue voters and there's one thing and they're
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waiting to see how that one thing breaks. To me, though,
I'm like, what's the thing that you don't know how
it's breaking? At this point, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I'll give you an analogy, Buck, because I talk to
these people all the time. In sports. How many people
watch the Super Bowl and don't watch a football game
the whole rest of the year, Like sixty million people. Yeah,
but you just said you like sixty I always like,
because you're if you're a sports guy like I am,
the idea that you don't watch the NFC and the
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AFC Championship, around fifty million of you will watch. That's
the final four basically of the NFL, and then the
audience more than doubles for the Super Bowl. And every
year I'm like, who are all these people coming out
of the woodwork that didn't care enough to watch the
final four in football, but they come out for the
championship game. I say this with respect, but we're talking
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about like the future of the Republican possibly the free world,
not who can run the pig skin up the field
faster like this is a little bit more important. My
point is lots of people come in for big events
and don't have any real preconceived knowledge about what they're watching.
They come for the big event, and I think there
are a lot of voters like that, and they just
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are very important.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
A very important email coming in from vip Jill, also
known as Brilliant Jill, who writes, Clay, you are so
very wrong about Willie Brown. If Trump brings it up,
women will turn on him with Oh it's okay for
a man, but if a woman. Does it know what
I mean? Buck is right? Signed brilliant Jill IQ One.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Carol in Cheyenne, Wyoming. You get the final word from
the audience today. What have you got for us?
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Okay, Clay, I think you so, my thunder. I was
calling to mention that President Trump and other men that
have had an affair don't necessarily gain any political or
monetary advantage. But in this particular instance, the woman that
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had the affair that I think that was very much
part of her plans maybe to advance politically and get
some jobs and get some money.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Carol, I love you. Thank you for calling in from
lovely Wyoming. Kamala Harris didn't just she she got paid
for it. We'll talk more about this tomorrow.
Welcome in our number three Klay Travis buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
now doing the final hour before what might be the
final debate of the twenty twenty four presidential election. Trump
knocked out Joe Biden, as we all know, on June
twenty seventh. It's crazy to think about everything that has
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happened in this country since June twenty seventh assassination attempt
on Trump. July thirteenth, Biden drops out of the race.
July twenty first, Kamala Harris, now the nominee for over
fifty days, barely has talked to the media at all.
One sit down interview with CNN with Tim Wall sitting
beside her, and now we are on to what may
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well be the only debate between these two candidates. Trump
proposed multiple debates, including one that was supposed to be
moderated by Martha McCollum and Brett Bayer on Fox New
September fourth. Kamala was afraid to do it. Trump has
agreed to one later in the year, but now I
would say the fact that Kamala hasn't agreed to it
at all. If things go well, tonight and Trump is
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in the lead, and he is maintaining his lead, and
that is what his internal polls show that. I don't
think it makes sense at all for Trump to do
a second debate again. We'll have to assess how this
first one goes. But Buck, as we teased and went
to break, I said that you and I would give
our best one or two or three or whatever the
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number is points of advice for Trump against Kamala. I
will start. I've been on this for some time. I
think the most important thing for Trump to do is
actually return every time he can to the economy, to
border and to crime, the actual issues, and force Kamala
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to be responsible for the fact that she is wrong
on all those things. And I actually thought, Bill O'Reilly,
encourage you to go download the podcasting, search out my name,
Clay Travishings or child Buck Sexton, make sure that you
didn't miss anything. I actually thought his echoing of a
famous line from Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty is actually important,
and it kind of reverberates in two ways for me.
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One Reagan memorably asked, Carter, are you better off now
than you were four years ago? Every single American has
to say no after the Kamala Biden administration. I also
think I legitimately can't name one thing that Kamala Harris
has done well since she got into office. And that's
not me trying to speak in hyperbole. I can't name
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one thing, even if I were trying to be incredibly
generous to her, that her actions have made better in
the United States. COVID is better now, for instance, than
it was in twenty twenty one, but that's mostly just
because people have gotten saner and come back to their
regular lives. Other than that, Buck, can you point to
anything since January of twenty twenty one that you think
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hey by done a pretty good job on this? I
legitimately can't even point to anything that Biden and Kamala
have made better. I think to the extent that Trump
goes back to that again and again and again, make
that your foundational aspect of this debate, He's going to
at worst tie and guarantee that Kamala can't win, which
is important considering he's in the league.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Look, I think that Trump uh the most important thing
he can do in this debate other.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Than the decorum and and.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Style aspects of this we've talked about, which is basically,
you know, don't don't lose your cool, don't let her
go under your skin. And we know what when Trump
loses cool, it's not that he doesn't get flustered, or
it's that he starts taking big. He's nasty, right, and
he can he's he can get. You know, if you
get in the mud with Trump, he'll jump right in
the mud, right. So we're hoping that that doesn't happen.
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But the important stuff just say, look look at the
economy and look at the trajectory of the country when
I was president. We're going to do it again. So
we're going to do it again. I think is an
important theme for him to hit, meaning everyone's going to
be making more money. You know, prices are going to
come down, conomy's going to be thriving, energy production is
going to skyrocket, all the things that he's already proven
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he can do. I think that any pivots to Kamala
is the number two of a failed administration, such a
failure that they don't even have an incumbent president running
for reelection. I think that says a lot. So Kamala
is the number two of a failure. Why do you
want to make her the number one of her own
failure for four more years? And then I think it's
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important for Trump to just point out that that, you know,
he's he tells American people who he is and what
he wants to do, and that Kamala Harris's entire campaign
is about hiding who she is, lying about her record,
and being dishonest about what she would really do if
she had four years in the White House. And I
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think he hits. I think that one of the best
ways to do that is to bring up the b
order issue specifically and just say ten he's I said
it yesterday, Clay ten million plus ten million. Yeah, if
someone told me that Biden was going to allow ten
million plus maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It's twelve million in whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
The actual number is ten million plus illegals into the
country in four years. And you know, I follow this
issue very closely for a long time. I would have said,
I think that's high. I think that's hot. Yeah, I
think it might be you know, three or four million,
which is a which is a ton. I don't think
it's going to be ten plus.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Ten plus million in four And you know, I.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Got into this a little bit yesterday with you were
talking about the TPS and I even tweeted something about it,
and I was like, oh, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No, it is true.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Biden has found new and creative ways to abuse executive
authority to bring in, not even just allow in, to
bring in people. There are people are filling out, you know,
on an app Oh yeah, I need asylum in America,
and then they're legally coming into the country. They're lying
about their asylum claim. They're never going to get expelled
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once they get here. Disaster hammering on the border because
it touches on so much of the economy, and on crime,
and on sovereignty and the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's what I hope Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, if he does those things, I think that's
as much as you can ask for, and he comes
away way out ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I think, focusing on the amount of money that we
are now spending. Using that revelation that, to their credit,
CNN reported on yesterday Kamala and addressing her, Look, we
can't take care of the white, Black, Asian and Hispanic
people who are citizens of the United States that need
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the help of this country to be able to take
care of themselves and their families. We don't have the money.
She said she wants to give illegal immigrants sex change
surgery paid for by tax payers. That is so banana
(06:57):
lan bonkers crazy to me that I think it cuts
through much of the noise associated with the border. Sometimes
you need a sentence that really kind of sums up
how broken a policy can be, because it gets right
to the essence of things. We can't take care of
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our veterans in this country, and we're going to be
paying to change the genitals of illegal immigrants when they
come into the country a verst All. I don't know
how many illegal immigrants want to change their gender, but
the fact that the Democrat Party would actually have any
members who would even think to do this is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I would have to dig into it a little bit,
but my spidey sense is that a part of it
was they've been lying about the asylum claim so much
that everyone's figuring out and saying, you have a credible
fear of violence in filling the blank country. A lot
of countries, especially to our south, are very violent, very corrupt,
and very violent.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
HM.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That doesn't mean that you actually qualify for asylum, because
otherwise all of Venezuela could get asylum, right, but if
you are going to start claiming that you are trans
and you're being haabinated against and you're being discriminated against,
and that you need to start the process of at
least going through you know, the therapy or whatever it is, now,
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you maybe can actually have your asylum claim heard and
you could come out winning on the asylum issue. And
I think that's why. Basically, I think it is the
plan of Democrats. And I mean this, and as crazy
as this may sound, ten years ago, I was like,
you know, they're going to let guys just manhandle women
in sports and they're going to be fine with it,
and everyone's like, no way, yes, way. They want America
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to be the global refuge for people who claim that
they are discriminated against because they are pan sexual or
non binary, which is fascinating because like, how do you.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Prove that, how do you disprove it or what is it?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, so it effectively becomes one more loophole, and obviously,
you know, being trans goes into this the same bucket,
so to speak. So that's what I see. But yeah, Clay,
back to the initial point what Kama said about that
is absolutely crazy and she can't be allowed to get
away with the My principles have remained the same. How
does that work? Exactly like what my values? My values
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haven't changed, my value. I'm sorry, that's what she said,
My values haven't changed. Well, if your values haven't changed,
why have your position's changed.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, it's an easy follow up, of course, that Dana
Bash didn't ask my one liner advice to Trump, And
I said this an hour one. I'll echo it again.
I really think he would win the debate. And this
was a listener reader suggestion sent in to me. I
try to read emails, even if I don't respond. I
try to read everything that I get. And he wrote
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in and he said, and I think it's true that
if Trump started off the debate tonight, whatever the first
question is, by saying before I answer that, I just
want to say something is probably going to shock a
lot of people. Thank you, Kamala Harris, because if you
hadn't been such a disaster at the border, and if
you hadn't let over ten million people come in illegally,
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I wouldn't have had that graphic with me in Pennsylvania.
When I turned to look at it, that saved my life.
Your failure at the border to allow ten million people
in was so baved his life.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You really think you should tell Kamala thank you for
saving my life. I don't know, Clay, I think that
might actually work. That might be a little weird. It
might be a little little Actually.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Kamal has saved my life. Everybody, your border failures saved
my life, but unfortunately they've cost a lot of other
people their lives. I think it would be a ooh,
like just bringing home because the only reason he's not
dead is because he turned his head to look at
the graphic of all of the legal immigrants that came
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into this nation. If he didn't have that graphic, he'd
be dead. I mean that is because Kama has done
such a bad job. And I think it would pop.
I think it would draw attention, and I think it
puts her immediately on the defensive to try to explain
why she now wants a border and why she has pivoted,
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and why she is panicked as she tries to pretend
that all of the things that she previously supported she
no longer supports. Will take some of your calls, by
the way, eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two and a lot of you, I think have
a lot of things that you want to weigh in on.
And again we're gonna get you a little bit more
information about what's been going on in the Springfield, Ohio area,
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which has become a flashpoint for the immigration changes that
are taking place all over the country. We're going to
talk to Warren Davidson who represents the area near Springfield,
Ohio that has been so overrun with Haitian immigrants that's
still and again we'll take your calls as we break
all of that down and more, and maybe some women
(12:06):
out there want to weigh in on the great debate
so far today of whether Kamala Harris being the mistress
the side chick of married man Willie Brown could have
an impact in some undecided voters. But first, Buck, what
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Speaker 3 (13:36):
This is an actual statement given to NBC News from
the Springfield, Ohio Police Force quote. There have been no
credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured,
or abused by individuals within the immigrant community. Now, the
Springfield News Sun did know that one hundred and seventy
five miles away from there, there was reportedly a bizarre
incident of one woman who was charged with cruelty to
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companion animals for allegedly killing and eating a cat. But
there's no evidence she is an immigrant. She definitely wasn't
living in Springfield, and that one crazy story hardly warrants
a claim that Vice President Harrison immigrants are out to.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Kill all of your pets.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Not only is this right wing conspiracy theory totally falls
and obviously completely xenophobic, it's really not helping the perception
out there that Jade Vance, Donald Trump and the rest
of their party are just playing weird.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The weird thing from Jensaki. Again, I think they laid
off that a little bit after Tim Walls was making
the rounds.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Everyone's like, this guy is a weirdo.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I also think that, in classic straw Man fashion, you
have the former White House Press secretary exaggerating what the
claims are and ignoring the evidence that she doesn't. Like, Okay,
you know, we're talking about whether there were pets that
have been you know, captured and eaten or ducks in
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the Park or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
People have said.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Some of the citizens of the town of Springfield, Ohio
have gone on the record publicly and said this has
happened to them where people that they know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Apparently MSNBC knows more than they do of what's happening
in Springfield.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
But what we do know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Without question is there are twenty thousand Haitian TPS recipients
temporary protected status and people they understand and I know
everyone gets all fired up about this. It is a
legal status conferred upon people temporarily, the same way that
if you are waiting your asylum hearing, you are, in essence,
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it's kind of a limbo, but you're legally waiting for
an asylum hearing. This is how we get all caught
up in this stuff. But they are under TPS, twenty
thousand Haitians in the Springfield, Ohio area. They are overcrowding resources,
they are causing lots of problems in terms of public
services and a whole range of other things. And Democrats
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basically just turn around and say your xenophobic or you're
racist or both. I mean, that's the answer to everything
with this. But we'll talk to a congressman from just
in the Springfield area. Here Clay in a moment and
ask him, look, what's going on. We always want the facts,
we want the truth. We're not in all places at
all times. If people say this happened in my backyard
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and they're going to public forums and saying that, I
think we can report of that and say that someone
said this.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Happen to them in their backyard. This also is driving
democrats crazy, which must mean that it's having some impact
on them. Here's Eric Swaalwell a little bit earlier, who
slept with a Chinese spy losing his mind about Trump.
Cat and duck. Memes that he is upset are spreading
(16:44):
on social media. Listen, what in the hell is this?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
The chairman tweets protect our ducks and kittens in Ohio
because he goes some down, goes down some crazy rabbit hole,
completely debunked that alien.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Are eating pets. My god, are you okay.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Mister chairman. I don't know why you would do this.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I hope you're okay.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I don't know if the aliens who are eating your
ducks are in the room with us right now, But
mister Chairman, this.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is a serious issue.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
These people have loved ones who have been lost, and
you tweeted this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I mean he is so I mean I think he's
legitimately very dumb buck, but also he has no sense
of humor satire ability, like objectively whatever you think about this. Yeah,
cat and duck memes are hysterical. I don't even know
what Fang Fang saw on him, you know, looking back
on it now, maybe his fank access to Congress. Feng
(17:52):
Fang may well have been eating some cats or ducks
back into her life. Who know, it's fun. That's what
he gets all riled up about all of the memes.
They're overwhelming. Prize picks. Look, it's a sports fan's paradise
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back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Oh hope all
of you are having a fantastic Tuesday. I hope that
you are layering up, if necessary, on some caffeine to
be able to stay up. Tonight nine pm Eastern on
the East Coast, ten thirty will be the ending time
in Theory, probably a little bit past that. We are
joined now by Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. I don't
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know if you have seen the clip of Eric Swalwell
going crazy talking about all the Trump kitten and duck memes.
They are hysterical for those of you out there that
are not active on social media. Many people have decided
to have fun with the kitten and duck allegations coming
out of Springfield, Ohio. With outrageous, outlandish and frankly hysterical
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memes of Donald Trump saving kittens and ducks. Eric Swalwell
is very angry. But what in the world is actually
going on? Congressman, you represent this area just beside it
where all of this chaos has been unfurling asociated with
immigrants overloading. I believe it's Springfield, Ohio. What is actually
(20:06):
going on? What are you seeing in the community. What
can you tell us about the impact of in many
ways unrestrained immigration in your congressional district and nearby areas.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, thanks for having me on, really and honored to
join you all. And look, I too have enjoyed some
of the humor that's been out there, and in particular
as JD vance is now has childless cat ladies are
part of the JD vance fan club again, So we're
on track with the team that's going to save the kittens.
(20:39):
But the reality is on the ground. You know, Springfield's
a great community of about sixty thousand people, long time
manufacturing community, a lot like what you know Ohio has
experienced with you know, quote the rust Belt for a time,
you had great factory jobs for a long time, and
as the economy changed, a lot of things got hollowed out,
and communities had to change. Field has done a great
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job of attracting investment. They're growing nicely and for a
long time they've had All of western Ohio has had
the challenge. We could grow faster if we could just
get a strong workforce. And you know, as you look
at the immigrant population that wants to work, they're attracted
to places that have jobs, and you know Springfield has that,
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most of western Ohio has that, and and so you
could see why, you know, people that are coming here,
if they want to work, they would come someplace like Springfield, Ohio.
The challenge has been the bite administration has had just
an open border process that's flooded our country with lots
of people who are illegals. They've abused the refugee process.
And the challenge in Springfield isn't it just that the
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initial refugee comes. It's that each person can bring through
chain migration, like six family members, and so that has
a you know, be fruitful and multiply kind of effect
at a rapid pace. I mean, if a family is
fruitful and multiplies, it takes a generation to raise the kids.
When you bring in somebody into the country, even if
they have the most credible claim to refugee status that
(22:06):
you could imagine. If you can bring six times as
many more people in right away, it's easy to see
how one community gets overwhelmed. And that's what's going on
on the ground in Springfield. If you brought twenty thousand
people from California, it would overwhelm a community of sixty
thousand people. And the culture in California is a little different,
safe to say, the culture in Haiti is a whole
lot different than the culture in spring To, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So when you see these stories, congressmen and people are
concerned about this, it sounds like there is an understandable
friction that could happen with such a massive change in
the area, or rather that this is what people could expect.
Are you seeing that there's any help coming from either
(22:51):
the state or the federal government to assist with some
of this. I mean you're talking about things like overcrowding
and hospitals and schools and things like that. It sounds
like the community is just left to bear the burden.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, that's the real problem. Look, the federal government clearly
isn't being helpful. They're causing the problem to be worse,
frankly and very unsympathetic. They're not responsive even when local
law enforcement wants to raise issues for the people that
are illegal. Even in those cases, the federal government's not responsive.
The challenge of in the state hasn't been incredibly helpful either.
(23:26):
There are a lot of resources. Look, some of this
is driven by federal policy, where every refugee is getting
six hundred to sixteen hundred dollars in cash assistance for
the Refugee Cash Assistance Program, and they're automatically eligible for
every means tested program that America has. So you've got
individual refugees who are newly arrived, let's say, straight from Haiti,
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and they're getting more federal benefit than you've got people
that worked a lifetime and put money into Social Security
and Medicare. So they're eligible for every kind of program
that you could imagine. And there are flaws at the
federal level, but there are things at the state level
that schools are being told they need to admit. You know,
Haitians that appear to be twenty years old as freshmen
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in high school, and you know that's causing problems you've
got massive influx of people that can't speak English and
so no resources for translators. It's safe to say we
don't have a lot of local you know, native speakers
for Haiti in western Ohio, and so we need resources
from the federal and state government to be able to
(24:32):
do some of those things. And you know, look, I
used to represent that district. Under the new redistricting. That's
a different members of Congress, but I think the whole
delegation is united and saying, look, we recognize that there
are legitimate refugees and other places around the world, we
want to be a welcoming place for people that come legally.
But really what you're seeing is the limits of even
(24:54):
legal immigration, where you are very sympathetic, are being tested
here and a big part of it is that migration problem.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
We're talking to. Congressman Warren Davidson. The New York Times,
among others, has said that everything being said about Springfield,
Ohio is basically made up. We played yesterday many of
the viral clips from the town city council meeting of
people laying out what they are saying For people out
(25:22):
there who read The New York Times. Congressman and say, oh,
this is all a made up story. I believe a
young kid was killed by a Haitian immigrant on his
way to the first day of school. That occurred, It's
happening in districts all over the place. But what would
you say to the New York Times is of the
world that have decided to parachute in on this story
(25:43):
and say this isn't true.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, I mean, they're not trustworthy sources. The controlled media
continues to cover for the Biden administration on every front.
I mean, they've continually lied. We know they're lying, they
know we know they're lying, and they keep lying. This
is just another instance where they're whatever they need to
say to cover for the Biden Harris administration. They're going
to say the reality is coming out under the ground
(26:08):
and talk to people, and you know, you'll find people
in the community that are fed up and don't want
anybody to come, whether they're legal or not. But you
also find people that are like, yeah, I'm sympathetic. I
understand how bad of a place Haiti is right now.
We want to welcome them. But let's not pretend, well,
you're not being overwhelmed here. We've got issues to deal
with and to say that all of these things are false,
(26:29):
that itself is clearly false, and so it's not rising
to this attention because it's some manufactured story. The reality
is this is what people in the community are dealing with.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Congressman, appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much for
making the time.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, thank you guys for highlighting it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
We come back. We'll take some of your calls eight
hundred and two two eight A two roll you into
the final fifteen minutes of this show before the debate.
Undoubtedly we'll spend tomorrow reacting to all of the big
takeaways from the debate. But soon are going to be
going up to New York. I'm going to be playing
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Speaker 2 (28:45):
Big debate coming up tonight. So we're closing up shop
for now on Clay and Buck. We will be watching,
We will be taking notes, making a list, checking it twice,
and tomorrow we will tell you who was naughty and
who was nice up on that debate stage.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
We'll get some of your calls here and also get
some of your VIP emails if we had the time.
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ip please all right, I'll take you. I will take it.
Kelly and Houston starts off with Clay is right. That's
all I can see on my screen.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I never loved you, Kelly. I don't know. I didn't
know that you had a cousin who lived in Houston. Clay,
what's going on? Kelly?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Hey, guys, I actually live in Caryln, North Carolina. I'm
visiting Houston, and I just think Clay is right. I
have been married to my husband for.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Thirty four years.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
He's worked in corporate America the whole time. And I
just got to say, I wouldn't be a fan of
some skink who is sleeping around with you know, guys
that are working with my husband and sleeping.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Right, But you were voting Trump anyway, right, like you're
all in on Trump.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'm assuming, well maybe.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I'm you know, a little undecided.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh really, I mean, because I do think my theory
on this, for those who just got in their car
is that if you don't like Trump's character, Kamala's character
is equally imperfect in many ways. In fact, I think
arguably worse because she's actually benefited from some of what
she has been willing to do. Trump has only take
(30:17):
n hits and Trump is And this will sound a
little bit sick of fan thank you, Kelly for some people,
thank you, But you know, Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Is actually funny and charismatic, which.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Kamala is not. So that's correct.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't think anyone really disagrees with that. Dennis in
South Carolina, I feel like I like where Dennis is going.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Dennis absolutely buck Hey, listen, Obviously I'm not a suburban housewife,
but I've been married forty four years I've also got
an eighty two year old mom that lives with us,
and I agree with you one hundred percent. In fact, Buck,
if you've got welles too late now. But I was
going to say, if you've got some way to mute
plays micro rest of the show, you need to do
it before Trump or someone in his camp. Here's Trey,
(30:58):
you know, his political advice Mount Pratt. In my opinion, Uh,
he's just so off based that you know, it's kind
of like when he when he talked about John Fetterman
and I like Clay. I don't mean to say that
I like him a lot, but I.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Mean I'm here. You know I'm not dead, you can
I'm here on the.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Show you were for once.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
You were stunned into silence there for a minute, Clay.
And so I won't at least say I like you
a lot, and I've enjoyed you for years and out, kid,
But you know, I just think the personal attacks. I've
been in sales for a long time, I've owned my
own business. Is one of the first things they teach
is don't you know, don't knock down the other your competition,
your your competition's products, because it just makes you look
(31:35):
heavy and small, and and that's the one thing Trump's
always done and I hate it. I voted for him twice,
I'll vote for him again each time. We're more pride.
I love his policies. But when he does that, my wife,
my mom, other women in my life, they just they
almost cringe, just like, why is he doing that? Why
is he getting personal? I just don't see it helping
him at.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Well, Dennis, thank you for the call. Dennis. What I
agree with you you on is I'm not saying Trump
should do it in the debate. I'm saying that I
think people like me, or Buck or some of you
out there, a lot of people don't know Kamala Harris
very well. They don't know her backstory. Where Buck and
I disagree is I think there are women and maybe men,
(32:19):
but certainly women that are persuadable that don't like Trump personally,
that have bought into the idea that, oh, Kamala Harris,
she's a bright, shining light of truth and justice in
the American way, and actually she has a sordid past
of her own. And then if you cancel out double
sordid past, it brings you back to issues. Buck doesn't
(32:41):
buy it. She had enough.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think it was thirty years ago. I was like
in I was in grammar school when she had this affair.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I don't think anyone cares. But it's the reason why
she got started in politics. That is the foundation. She
began her life in politics to get paid four hundred
thousand dollars as the side chick of someone.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I think everyone who likes or leans Trump and was
voting Trump, here's this and goes exactly, that's why I'm
voting Trump. But I know our caller, I think she
was playing a little fast and loose there a minute ago.
She's like, well, she's voting Trump. Okay, what about the.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Question we need to take calls post debate? Buck, what
percentage of our audience do you think truly doesn't know
how they're going to vote? Our audience? Yes, less than
five percent. Yeah, I think that's about right. Yeah, so
we're talking about a tiny subset. Maybe we'll take calls
only from people who don't know how they're going to
(33:40):
vote and ask them that I don't know how it's possible.
I mean, I'm just gonna say this, I don't know
how it's possible to really not know how you're going
to vote unless you just don't pay attention to politics
at all. If you don't, like, like, someone could ask
me who's going to win, you know, Alabama or like
the University of Southwest Boise or something, and I might
(34:00):
not until I at least started doing this show, I
would not have known. I've feel like I have absolutely
no idea because I didn't pay attention to that at all.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You have to be, to me, at almost that level
of political attention paid in order to not know who
you're voting for now. But there are people who don't
pay that much attention to it and they don't know
who they're voting for, or maybe they're struggling over one thing.
They're single issue voters and there's one thing and they're
(34:27):
waiting to see how that one thing breaks. To me, though,
I'm like, what's the thing that you don't know how
it's breaking? At this point, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I'll give you an analogy, Buck, because I talk to
these people all the time. In sports. How many people
watch the Super Bowl and don't watch a football game
the whole rest of the year, Like sixty million people. Yeah,
but you just said you like sixty I always like,
because you're if you're a sports guy like I am,
the idea that you don't watch the NFC and the
(34:56):
AFC Championship, around fifty million of you will watch. That's
the final four basically of the NFL, and then the
audience more than doubles for the Super Bowl. And every
year I'm like, who are all these people coming out
of the woodwork that didn't care enough to watch the
final four in football, but they come out for the
championship game. I say this with respect, but we're talking
(35:18):
about like the future of the Republican possibly the free world,
not who can run the pig skin up the field
faster like this is a little bit more important. My
point is lots of people come in for big events
and don't have any real preconceived knowledge about what they're watching.
They come for the big event, and I think there
are a lot of voters like that, and they just
(35:40):
are very important.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
A very important email coming in from vip Jill, also
known as Brilliant Jill, who writes, Clay, you are so
very wrong about Willie Brown. If Trump brings it up,
women will turn on him with Oh it's okay for
a man, but if a woman. Does it know what
I mean? Buck is right? Signed brilliant Jill IQ One.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Carol in Cheyenne, Wyoming. You get the final word from
the audience today. What have you got for us?
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Okay, Clay, I think you so, my thunder. I was
calling to mention that President Trump and other men that
have had an affair don't necessarily gain any political or
monetary advantage. But in this particular instance, the woman that
(36:31):
had the affair that I think that was very much
part of her plans maybe to advance politically and get
some jobs and get some money.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Carol, I love you. Thank you for calling in from
lovely Wyoming. Kamala Harris didn't just she she got paid
for it. We'll talk more about this tomorrow.
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