May 1, 2024 • 36 mins
In this episode, Tudor interviews Rob Finnerty, the host of Wake Up America on Newsmax. They discuss the current events happening at Columbia University in New York City. The conversation discusses the increase in crime and violence in cities, the impact of protests and riots, and the role of the government in addressing these issues. The conversation discusses the impact of protests and riots on college campuses and the lack of condemnation from political leaders. It highlights the need for clear messaging and action from the administration to address these issues. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. Learn more at TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Rob Finnerty
with me today. He is the host of Wake Up
America on Newsmax and you can tune in to see
him every weekday morning from nine thirty am to nine
A or from six thirty to nine am. And today
I wanted to have him on because a few things. Obviously,
I really love watching what he does every day on Newsmax,
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but also I kind of wanted that perspective of someone
who's in New York right now as we see everything
going on with Columbia, with these protests, these protests across
the country, which I think has been shocking to all
of us. I mean, even my sister's watching. She went
to Vanderbilt. She's watching Vanderbilt. She's like, I'm glad they
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are actually doing something, but it's so weird to see
how different it is across the country right now. And
we're still thinking of our friends over in Israel and
what's going on over there with these attacks, and you
watch and the attacks in Israel they've increased while this
is going on with a Ran in its proxies attacking
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with hundreds of drones and missiles, and I am so
blessed right now to have this partnership with the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and they are actually on
the ground right now over there in Israel. So if
you're wondering, how can I help these people, how can
I help to address all of these urgent needs because
I'm not there. Well, IFCJ is and I'm partnering with
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emergency security needs like food. I mean think about that,
as simple as food and bomb shelters, flack jackets, all
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these other essentials that we don't have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You can help.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We are asking our listeners today to give fifty dollars
or any other amount you can give to provide life
saving aid to these folks. Just visit SUPPORTIFCJ dot org.
It's one word, support IFCJ dot org. And you can
help right now too. Now I want to bring Robin
because you're listening to me talk about what we can
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do for the folks on the ground in Israel. But
what is going on in New York City right now?
When we look at Columbia University, I mean we're seeing
windows broken out. They were given this demand that they
had to move out, they could not have this occupation
on campus anymore, and instead they went completely the other direction.
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What are you seeing on the ground?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So really shocking. We came in this morning, ready to
do the show with one plan, and this all happened,
you know, overnight at Columbia, so plans changed. I don't
know how at this point, this academic president at Columbia,
Manu Chaffique, I don't know how she keeps her job.
Claudine Gay and Liz McGill, they were forced to resign
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or fired for doing a lot less than what we're
seeing happening at Columbia. But overnight, and again it's I'm
all for protests. Protesting is part of our right to
live in this country, the best country on the planet.
But when you start breaking the law, you've got to
break up these protests. The NYPD is not allowed on campus.
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All these campuses are private campus security or whatever they
call them now like school safety officers. They clearly can't
handle what's going on last night. Yeah, broken windows. Students
formed a barricade with chairs and desks and furniture on
the inside. On the outside, they locked arms. They use
zip ties to lock all the doors, and then they
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blacked out the windows in this one academic building, Hamilton Hall,
so people can't see what's going on inside. Not only
is that a fire hazard, but it's a huge risk
to anybody inside the building if something were to go wrong.
So I don't know why, I don't know when it's
appropriate for the National Guard to be called, but to me,
this is when you do something like that for the
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safety of people inside and outside that building, and right
now nothing's being done, nothing's.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Being I mean it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You make a really good point because you're reminding me
of the Chaz zone that we had. We saw what
in twenty twenty, but people we ended up with two
young people murdered in there. We had multiple rapes, Right,
How did they even know what's going on? You said something,
you said, I'm all for protests, and I agree with that.
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I think what has happened though, because we saw that
happening in Seattle and people were just like, oh, it's
going to be the summer of love. We'll wait, and
they became rioters. They became violent, they started stealing from
each other.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Remember when these young people were like I had I
laugh to laugh because they're like, I had my iPad
out and the people in the chat zone said that
we should share, and so someone just took it. Now
I don't have it anymore. Yes, welcome to socialism. This
is a great project for you. It sucks, doesn't it.
But I think they got used to the fact that
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protests meant something different. I mean, look at Minneapolis and
what happened there, and you had Kamala Harris saying stay
in the streets.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That was not a protest, that's a riot. There's a difference.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, And Kamala Harris was a candidate back then before
the twenty twenty election, so she was able to donate
to bail funds and try to bail these these criminals out,
and that helped her. I think that helped them in
twenty twenty to win the election. Here we are four
years later, it's much different situation. That was also we
were dealing with the pandemic, and that was all post
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George Floyd. Much different circumstance. Now Kamala and Joe are
running for president again, and this is I don't know
how the administration doesn't pay a serious political price for
what's going on at these schools. And I just think
about it like this, If you were a senior in
twenty twenty and you had your graduation canceled because of COVID,
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if you go to one of now it's like three
dozen schools that have canceled graduation ceremony, canceled commencement. Four
years later, you're not going to have a graduation ceremony.
That's going to affect you for the rest of your life.
And I don't know how that doesn't impact Joe and
Kamala on election day. If I'm a parent or a
grandparent and I've given money to a five twenty nine
and saved and done all the right things to have
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this one moment when I can see my son or
daughter graduate from college or one of these universities, and
this happens, I'm blaming the administration.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But they're not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I even in Michigan, we have Rashida Talib,
who is one of the people who leads the charge
on these discussions, on these protests, and she had a
protest in the Capitol, and ever Rudy's.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Like, oh, that's different.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's Rashida Talib having this protest. We don't have to
get mad about this one. But she's leading all of
these things. And yet we don't have even the Michigan
delegation coming out and saying this is not okay.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
We do not agree with what these people are doing.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I think it's kind of like they started this situation
with twenty twenty. They encouraged this back then, they were
okay with all of these things happening, and now they
don't know how to come out and say this is
not this is not okay.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, and it's scary. I don't know what it's going
to take for this too, for the I mean, yesterday
at the White House, Karine Jean Pierre had her normal
Monday briefing and she was asked about this and she said, yeah,
we condemn anti Semitic protests, but they didn't they want
it both ways. She didn't come out and say these
campuses should be cleared, clouding gay. You know, yesterday two o'clock,
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two pm in New York was the deadline to clear
out this, all the encampment tents and all the you know,
this is fund from the outside. Not to mention, nobody's
talking about the fact that the majority of these rioters.
Now this has gone from protest to riot. Certainly at UNC,
certainly at Columbia. These are riots now. We called it
that in twenty twenty. You've got to call it that now.
But the majority of these people. One kid was interviewed
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and he was like in his thirties. I was like,
this is definitely not an undergrad a lot of these things.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's the Yes, these are not students.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, they're not students.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And how do you even know because they have their
faces masked. You know, this is something that we've talked
about in Michigan. I mean, we have an anti clan
law here that means you can't have your face in
a mask too. And when you're harassing people or publicly protesting.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You cann't, which.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Obviously is an old law. But the question is why
should you be allowed to say that you are Hamas,
which is a terrorist organization. I find this very interesting.
They're saying we are Hamas, they're saying death to America.
They're making statements that are in line with terrorism. And
I think that we also have to say students of
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this age are the prime target for a radicalization. These groups,
these these terrorist groups, they know what they're doing. This
is what they do. They radicalize young people and they
create terrorists. You see a huge swath of people across
these campuses that are praying five times a day to Allah.
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Wait a minute, these are not students who are of
the Islamic faith. They're suddenly being dragged into an extremist faction.
And I'm like, why isn't the FBI investigating this or
saying anything about it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, they're too busy writing down the license plate numbers
of Catholics, you know, when they're church on Sunday. Seriously,
here are some of the chants that we've heard just
at Columbia. Yes, Amas, we love you, We support your
rockets too. Let's kill every Jew, it's right to rebel
Israel can go to Hell. To your point, yeah, it's
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beyond indoctrination. Hamas is recruiting. They are actively recruiting. And
Hamas so the Nazis. Where that was the government in
Germany in the nineteen thirties and forties, Hamas is the
government in Gaza. So you can say they are the
Nazis of today, or you could say, fine, we're in
New York City. These people are saying Hamas, we love you.
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That would be like saying al Qaeda we love you, you know,
on September twelfth, right after nine to eleven and doing that,
you know, just blocks from ground zero. That's where we are.
That's how sick this is. This is not like protesting
the Vietnam War in nineteen sixty eight and leading up
to the election in sixty eight. This is completely different.
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And I was talking to my parents were both in
college in that time period, and they were like, yeah,
we had guest speakers from both sides come on to
campus and talk to students. We had like candlelight vigils.
They were It was a lot. There was some violence,
certainly in the late sixties, but not what we're seeing
right now, and it's not as coordinated. You know, these
chants what you're seeing on campus at Columbia being on
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campuses out in California. Now, how does that happen? They're
not watching the news. No, it's because it's all coordinated.
The signs. Instead of there being like poster boards that
you buy and then write something with a sharpie, all
these signs are manufactured and printed and then distributing right
at these campuses. That's coordination. Who's funding it? Is it
Soros connected groups? Is it dark money like we saw
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in twenty twenty, connected to various Democratic boosters. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But why at a time when we have the director
of the FBI coming out and saying there are red
red flags everywhere we should be concerned about an attack
on US soil at any time it could be coming.
And yet you have students who are threatening this death
to America, take the United States down. I mean, in
the midst of just receiving these proof of life videos
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of hostages that are still being held by Hamas, and
they have so little regard for human life that they
are out there calling for the rest of the Jewish
state to be eliminated. This is unheard of. I think
it's interesting that you bring up the sixties because the
protests then were really about peace, and they will lie
and say this is about a ceasefire, but it's not.
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They've made it clear what they want. They want Israel
wiped off the map.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, and the ceasefire, that's up to Hamas. That's Hamas's choice.
They can lay down their arms at any time, and
Israel's going to go into Rafa and they're going to
close this thing out. And it doesn't matter what the
people on college campuses and the US have to say
about it. It's really sad. You're in Michigan, and I
think we look at it when we're covering it as
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this is the Biden Michigan maybe Minnesota policy. They don't
want to lose the what sixteen electoral votes in Michigan
in November, so they're letting this happen. And I'm thinking
about it now, at what cost because now you're alienating
every other state just to win Michigan. So at what
cost are you going to give up? Because if Trump
wins Pennsylvania, it's also over for Joe Biden. And the
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math right now after that CNN pol on Sunday. The
math is in Donald Trump's favor. Now we've got six
months to go. But what's it going to take. Is
it going to take one of these students, a Jewish student.
Is it going to take somebody getting killed or seriously
injured for Joe Biden to come out and condemn not
only anti Semitism but the riots now that we're seeing
on campus. Is that what it's going to take, because
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that's also going to alienate him to view or two voters.
And I just don't understand what the White House's strategy
is right now.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You bring up Michigan, and I think that the reason
that they are so concerned about Michigan is because of
that one hundred thousand strong uncommitted vote that happened in
the primary, which they were not expecting. They, I mean,
even Gretchen Whitmer was out saying, this is going to
be ten thousand. It's no big deal. We've got this
under control. I'mphone banking. She was calling people. She thought
that it was going to be fine. And I think
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think that even if it had just been our Arab
American community. They would have said, Okay, this is a statement.
We're going to win these folks back. And that was
essentially what she said. She came out and was pretty
much like, Hey, they're going to make a statement, but
they're with us in the end. They don't like her
first of all. But the other thing is it was
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the University of Michigan in Michigan State. They came out
and voted uncommitted. And I think this is kind of
like when Frankenstein becomes more than you can handle, because
they were the ones that put these radical ideas on
college campuses, all of this, you know, protest extremism, socialism, communism,
and now the experiment has become too big. They can't
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handle it anymore. And really the fact that they aren't
talking at all makes me believe that they are crapping
their pants behind the scenes, going this, this is out
of control. We have no idea what to do, and
what are they going to have the guy that steals
women's suitcases at the airport fix it?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, they don't even have a real.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Staff, right right, or Rachel Levine.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Right, exactly, very effective. Let me go check on all
of their mental health. Oh, I think that the ZIP
ties are healthy for them, right, that's how they identify.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I saw a poll, this is two weeks ago that
Trump was losing to Biden in Minnesota, right next to Michigan,
by only two points.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's shocking.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Now. I know that, look, Minnesota will likely go for Biden,
but just the fact that Trump's within two that's the
margin of error. Right again, it's six months to election date.
May first is right around the corner. But let's say
the election were tomorrow. Trump not only wins in the
electoral college, I think he wins the popular vote, like
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Reagan nineteen eighty four, like landslide. Trump win because people.
It's not Sometimes when we're doing the show, will make
a list of things that people are paying too much for.
I'm like, guys, producers, I'm going to save you like
an hour. Everything costs too much. Right now, everything costs
too much. That's America. The economy is the entire election.
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And I think the border in what we're seeing on
these college campuses, all of that just only that adds
to it. That only adds to it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
There are little signs and I think people were like, oh,
you're a Republican. So you're saying this, but even this morning,
I took my car in to get an oil change,
and as I walked out, all of the guys who had.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Their little stations, they were like, is Trump going to win?
Run again?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Get Gretchen Wimer out of here. We have got to
make sure that the state goes back.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
In the late seventies, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford seventy six,
and he did it again in eighty Check that eighty four.
This is again it's anecdotal, But to your story about
getting oil changed. When I get into the city, I
park my car in the same garage, right in the building,
and the guys that work there, these are not guys
that were Trump voters four years ago, but they're Trump
voters now and they know what I do. But every
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morning I have a little you know, exchange with them
and they're like, you know, sleepy Joe, and they you know,
they make fun of Joe Biden. I'm seeing this everywhere.
In nineteen seventy six, Johnny Carson the Tonight Show, he
would pull the audience in the studio audience. He'd be like,
how many of you like Gerald Ford? And by round
of applause, how many like Jimmy Carter, and Jimmy Carter
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got around, he got a louder round of applause. Carter won.
He did that again in eighty or eighty four, and
the round of applause for Reagan, I guess it was
eighty for Reagan beating Carter, and Carter got like four
colaps and it was like overwhelming for Reagan. And that
wasn't what the polls were saying, but that's what the
American people were saying. And it's anecdotal. But your oil
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change story, I totally buy that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh my gosh, did you see Pelosi trying to pretend
like he created this great economy and all these jobs.
She comes out, she's on CNN. It was CNN, right, Sarah, Yeah,
she's on CNN, and she's like, you know, Trump had
a terrible economy and he lost more jobs than any
other president, and Joe Biden has brought all these jobs back.
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And even the CNN host was like, I mean, it
was a global pandemic.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And she just went off on this woman.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
She's like, oh, oh, I didn't know you were a
Trump apologist. And this lady's like, literally, no one would
call me that, but they're losing it. And that's what
when you see Nancy Pelosi losing it. I mean, she
has been in control for a very long time. And
I know that people remember her ripping up the speech
and they're like, oh, that was a moment.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Where she lost it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But to get where she had been as the Speaker
of the House and the total control that she had
over the Democrat Party for so many years and I
believe still has, she doesn't lose her cool easily. And
so the fact that she would lose her cool when
they say, you know, I mean he had a little help.
This was a global pandemic. Of course, that is a fact.
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I give the CNN lady props for actually saying it.
She lost her Oh, Sarah's actually holding up a sign
saying no is I MSNBC. So that's even more incredible
that MSNBC was like no, no, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Think it was Katie. And when I heard that, yeah,
wait really yeah. And it's so the unemployment rates at
like a fifty year low, and I think, yeah, Joe Biden,
if he knew it were legitimate, he'd be like, look,
the uneployment rate's at a fifty year low. It's pandemic
jobs that have come back, but it's also there are
more side hustles. Right now, more Americans have more than
one job than ever before in our history. And you
could say, well, that's the way the economy is trending,
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and I'm like, no, I think if you ask the
people that have two or three jobs all of these
side hustles, I think they'd rather just have one job
and have a w two and just make it easier.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Than right exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I mean when you see the man on the street
in New York City saying what he said about Joe
Biden and saying it's time for Trump again, it's very
interesting because we're looking at two men who have been president,
so you don't have a question as to how either
of them would be.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So when you have the Union guy on the side
of the road say we want to go back to Trump.
He's seeing this from a position of knowing what Trump was,
knowing what that the communit is like under Trump, and
saying I want that back. That has to panic the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, you know, we had the correspondence dinner on Saturday,
and these are all I mean, there's no more sycophantic
audience than the audience at the Washington Hilton the last
Saturday in April for the Correspondence dinner. They're like sock puppets,
you know, sitting there just nodding their heads, you know,
while while Biden speaks on Sunday, CNN comes out with
a pole and include if RFK is part of the poll,
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Trump's leading Biden by nine points, takes out he's leading
him by six. To put that into perspective, Trump never
had a number like that against Hillary or certainly not
Biden in twenty twenty. But if the roles were reversed
and Biden were leading Trump by nine points yesterday, it
would have been wal to wall. This election is over.
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It's a foregone conclusion. If I'm at the White House,
I don't what do we do? What can the White
House do to shake it up? First of all, they've
got to get rid of Koreen Jean Pierre. I know
they brought in John Kirby for the tough questions, but
that's also a really bad look. Bring in a middle
a white male, you know, whenever the questions get difficult
about your right.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's why they can't get rid of her.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, but at this point it's about winning an election.
And she is so dense, and I mean that literally,
she is just she cannot answer a question. It's bad
for the administration and it's bad messaging. Yesterday she was
able to condemn anti Semitism, but not the riots. Why
not just go all the way?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Just go all because they didn't in twenty twenty. They can't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
They are so paralyzed by this because they just don't
know how to do it. They want, they need the students.
They know that the students have gone so far to
the left that they can't get them back. And if
they can't get the students, they can't win. Look on
election night in Michigan for the gubernatorial race, Michigan State
had their polling place open until eleven o'clock at night
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because they were registering people and having them vote the
same day. I'm sure these are students that were registered
at home. They're suddenly registering them here in Michigan. But
you know who's going to have be the on that.
I mean, our Secretary of State is a Democrat, right,
So they're registering people all night. They know that that
is the vote that puts them over the edge. So
if they suddenly don't have Jewish people, if they suddenly
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don't have this college students, and they have minorities turning
against them, because let's face it, Hispanics do not like
this open border.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And the black.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Community believes that they are losing money under Joe Biden
because they are everybody is as you said, It's like,
we don't have to guess here, everybody is losing money
right now. It's a total crap show in the United States.
And there's nothing that they can say that's good right now.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I mean, what can they offer. It's that's why Nancy.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Pelosi's out there like he created all these jobs and
people are like, oh.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But did he even like think about student loan forgiveness?
Like do you really want to forgive these students loans
right right now?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, that's a perfect that is a perfect comment
right there. That's something that the Republicans should be running
away with. These are the kids. And it's weird too.
I was talking to someone about this this morning. It's
very weird to me that these students who are the
best of the best, unless they are not the best
of the best, unless they reduce the requirements to get
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into these schools, would have done everything they did to
get into schools like Columbia to then get expelled because
they locked the doors and broke the windows over a
fight that they suddenly just learned it.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
They just learned about this.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Let's not over did the student body underinformed, overly emotional?
You know, to say the least, the other part of
this that is not getting discussed. And I don't know, Tutor,
Where did you go to school?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
University Kentucky?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Okay, good school I went to.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I know We're in the top fifty most conservative schools,
so I'm proud of them.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
That's that's I like that. I went to small school
in Connecticut, Fairfield University, Catholic College. There have not been
any protests at Fairfield. I don't remember seeing anything about
pro tests at University of Kentucky. I could be wrong,
but no one about this aspect. Now. Fairfield's a good school.
Kentucky's a good school. It's not Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard,
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Penn Columbia. It's not an Ivy League school where these
are happening. For the most part, there are exceptions, but
for the most part, these are the top academic institutions
in the country that produce the worst people upon graduation,
and all the schools that just produce good people like
you and me and just normal, like adjusted, well adjusted,
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normal American people. You're not seeing it there, but nobody
wants to mention that part of it. You know what.
I looked at it. I was like, I wonder if
this is happening last week when it was happening in
more than one hundred and twenty five college campuses, I
was like, is Fairfield on that list.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, it's not right because those kids are probably also
not trending to the far left. I mean, what we've
seen with this get parents out of lives, police kids apart,
twist up their emotions. They've done this and now they
don't know how to untwist it. I mean, even John Fetterman.
You watch John Fetterman, He's almost become like the comic
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relief in this because he's like, yeah, shut up, I'm
not on your side.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I love you. He's great. His brain broke, he had
a stroke before the primary in Pennsylvania, and May he
healed and he became a Republican.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I mean, it's I wouldn't say he's a full Republican
because he's still but he's like, I'm not a progressive,
and I would have classified him as a progressive.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
His outfit choices are still incredibly odd.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But I think that it's powerful that he's just going
to stand up to these people and not let them go.
I before I let you go, though, I do have
to bring up animals, because yeah, yeah, we have a
little bit of an issue on our side. Everybody is
wondering who Trump's VP is going to be, so they've
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been like, you know, there's all these different options. I've
heard Ben Carson, I've heard Tim Scott, I've heard Christy
Nome and I'm pretty sure she just shot her chances good.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Well, yes she's she's out of the beepsteaks. Yeah, that's it.
It's over. The book hasn't come out. I read the
thing in the Guardian. I don't think there's any way
that you can make a case, even if there's a
case to be made for shooting a fourteen month old
puppy in the head. I just I don't and I
don't hump pheasant, but I just I don't think there's
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a case to be made for that. And I think
Trump's too smart to select somebody like Christy Nome. Now,
I do think it's interesting that Trump got together with
the Santis, not at Lago over the weekend. Trump went
to DeSantis, and I.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Think a weird way he ended that message. Did you
notice that when he put the message out on true
Social and at the end he noted the election day,
I like, met with the Santis November? What is it
the third or the fifth?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Fifth?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
November fifth will be a big day. I'm like, okay,
what what are you playing at? I think he's just
playing because he loves to play.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Reagan ran with Bush and they hated each other and
it was a really contentious primary process, and then Reagan said,
all right, he's the guy. Kennedy ran with LBJ. They
actually hated each other, but Kennedy needed Texas. DeSantis, I
think is the inverse of Reagan and George H. W. Bush.
Trump can only serve four years, right rightta.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He has to set somebody up who's going to be
And that has been the complaint people have had, is like,
well does if Trump, if something happens to Trump or
just the next term is a Ben Carson? The right
guy to step in is it, Tim Scott the right
guy to step in. People are looking for that person
who's leading. I've noticed that DeSantis has come out with
a lot of He's been pushing a lot of that I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Leading here tweets. You know, if you're watching what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's also interesting because the messages that he's putting out,
I am the executive. I can take care of everything,
and so I don't see that from these other folks.
I mean certainly not that I'm releasing a book about
shooting a dog in the head.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So I'm shaking that she's out.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And Ben Carson. I like Ben Carson, but he's kind
of sleepy, you know, like that there's no wow factor,
there's no pop to Ben Carson. I think.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, but okay, let me counter that though, because I
do think that Trump struggles to have somebody who's not
a little bit quiet, because he loves to be the
guy who's that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He doesn't want anybody to overshadow him.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Good point, but he lost in twenty twenty, and now
it's true. It's all about winning now, and I think
there are DeSantis is a lot to like. If Trump wins,
he's president for four years, that sets up maybe eight
years of Ron DeSantis, just like Reagan for eight years
and Bush before after that, and he should have been Clinton,
but ross Buro had a huge impact in the ninety
two election. This is unpopular, but I think that Nicki
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Haley is in the conversation as well. Just Pennsylvania primary
last week, she got one hundred and fifty five thousand votes,
seventeen percent of the vote. Trump his campaign to date
has been lights out, but I think they've got to
figure out a way to win over those kind of
middle of the road, those people that like Nicki Haley,
maybe those more center Republicans. They have to figure it out.
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Pennsylvania was a great example, twenty electoral votes, huge battleground state.
If Trump gets that sixteen percent that voted for Haley,
Trump wins Pennsylvania, He's probably president. So you can't write
off Nicki Haley. I think Desantas and Haley are the
front runners.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That is an interesting thought because I had kind of
been thinking Kamala had ruined it for a woman.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Because she's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
However, Nikki Haley is a much different person than Kamala.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Harris cackle free.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
She comes cackl me that's true.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So Trump will be in Michigan this week. We are
pre taping that so people will hear this after. But
I think that Michigan and Wisconsin will be very interesting states.
I think that Michigan, to me is very important, and
I'll just end on this and get your opinion. To me,
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Michigan is very important because even if you're watching graphics
that they put out of federally elected people who are
going to have an impact in the country from the
Democrat side, Whitmer's pictures there. She is a statewide elected
So I think it's interesting because everybody has said Whitmer
has been given the pretty much the marching orders that
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you deliver Michigan and you go forward. I think she thinks, well,
I deliver Michigan and I go into the cabinet and
then I'm president. Or we heard a horrifying thing the
other day that said that once she gets once they
get to the convention, if Michigan is going well in
the next few months, they swap him out for her.
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I don't see how she and Kamala are on a
ticket together, but I don't know, because the young people
love her really interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I hadn't heard that, but that's really fascinating. I do
think there's something to Joe maybe not making it to
November fifth, to election day. Again, it's six months, but
he's taken a turn for the worse, and this is
what happens with dementia or whatever he's dealing with between
the years. But clearly things are not going well for
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Joe Biden upstairs. He can't get through a single scripted speech,
and he committed with Howard Stern to debating Trump. Trump,
Like I said, I think the campaign so far as
Ben Light's out, I think that a debate with Biden
could definitely benefit Trump, but it could also be a
trap because Biden twice he has been able to get
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up for these things in the past. Certainly in twenty
twenty his State of the Union wasn't great, but I
think a lot of people expected him to like fall
asleep on stage. That's a tricky one for me, But
I'm not convinced that Biden makes it. I mean, he's
eighty one going on eighty two right after election deck,
so something could happened with his health. But clearly, you
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know upstairs, the cheese has slipped off the cracker for him, let's.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on a
Tutor Dixon podcast. I think you have to remember that
a debate between Trump and Hillary was equal footing. She
was able to give as good as she got. That
was an interesting debate. There were a lot of comments
made that could be clipped, and it just felt like
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equal footing. Two of the same warriors battling each other.
The problem with Trump debating Biden is because he is frail,
because he is fragile. If he pushes, it will turn
people away from him. Because everybody kind of sees that
frailness in Joe Biden, and even though they hate.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It, you don't want to exploit it.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
And so for all of the people out there that
are always like, I want this to debate, I want
this debate, you just have to remember that when you
have someone who is strong, who is confident, who is
able to push back on someone who should be in
a nursing home, that could go poorly.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah. I think so. If you ever watched that movie
Game Change, it's based on the book two thousand and eight,
Biden only had one VP debate with Sarah Palin, and
the whole Biden team said, listen, because this is back
when Joe still had a brain, so he was, you know,
successful event in the Senate for a long time, Irish
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gift to gab, you know, he was. You know, we
didn't hear anything about a stutter back then. Suddenly now right, yeah,
Joe Biden redeveloped a stutter in his eighties. Remarkable. But
they told him, they said, listen, when you're debating Sarah Palin,
let her do ninety percent of the talking because people
know who you are. You don't need to introduce yourself
to a national audience. That's what he did. The debate
went off. You know, it was fine. I think you
know SNL obviously parodied Sarah Palin. If I were on
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Trump's team right now and he debates Joe Biden, I'd say, looks, President,
let Joe Biden do ninety nine percent of the talking
because he will get himself into trouble. You don't need
to go after Joe Biden. People know who you are.
But let him. Let him tell stories about how his
uncle was eaten by other people, you know him. Let
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him go down that lane, which he will do.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Get him into some good old cannibalism, maybe a swimming pool.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know, the poor people of New Guinea. It's but
let him do that. And I think that's the only
winning strategy for Trump, which is going to be very
hard for Trump. If you know Trump in a debate set.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Exactly well, if you know Trump in any setting, he
likes to be the person talking, and so that is
definitely the challenge. So when everybody is like, I want
to see them debate, I had somebody say to me
the other day, I want to see them debate because
I would like to know who I'm voting for. And
I'm like, come on, I mean, it's different when you
have two candidates, like for me and at Gretchen Whitmer,
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that was a different story. People really genuinely wanted to
see who the two of us were.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You know these guys.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I don't necessarily, I'm not married to needing a debate,
but I do think that there should be some sort
of requirement that he is out in public and people
get to see who he really is. I'd rather just
have him to a town hall Joe Biden, because I
think that's enough for people to go, yeah, he's not okay,
but we will keep following it and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, sounds good. I think Joe Biden not doing interviews
is a big tell. He's a bit as a big
tell no one on one interviews. So like, I would
just like to see Joe Biden answer ten questions in
a row and give reasonable answers.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I don't know if you saw that weird Drew Barrymore
interview with Kamala Harris. Why does she have to be
first of all, Drew Barrymore is very strange where she gets.
She like pops a squad on the couch and she
gets right in your face. But she was like, right now,
we don't need Kamala Harris. We need Mamala Harris. And
I saw someone like this is the problem. Democrats think
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that these people are surrogate parents and they're supposed to
be leaders.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
We don't want somebody who is going to come in
and make the bed and give us a peanut butter
and jelly at night. We want somebody who's actually going
to be able to lead and sit down with our adversaries.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And our allies. And right now, these people can't do it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Such a good point. Just don't screw everything up, please, right,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
But that's already happened.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes, Rob Finnerty, thank you so much for your time today.
It's always fun having you on, and thank you all
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Rob Finnerty
with me today. He is the host of Wake Up
America on Newsmax and you can tune in to see
him every weekday morning from nine thirty am to nine
A or from six thirty to nine am. And today
I wanted to have him on because a few things. Obviously,
I really love watching what he does every day on Newsmax,
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but also I kind of wanted that perspective of someone
who's in New York right now as we see everything
going on with Columbia, with these protests, these protests across
the country, which I think has been shocking to all
of us. I mean, even my sister's watching. She went
to Vanderbilt. She's watching Vanderbilt. She's like, I'm glad they
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are actually doing something, but it's so weird to see
how different it is across the country right now. And
we're still thinking of our friends over in Israel and
what's going on over there with these attacks, and you
watch and the attacks in Israel they've increased while this
is going on with a Ran in its proxies attacking
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with hundreds of drones and missiles, and I am so
blessed right now to have this partnership with the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and they are actually on
the ground right now over there in Israel. So if
you're wondering, how can I help these people, how can
I help to address all of these urgent needs because
I'm not there. Well, IFCJ is and I'm partnering with
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them today to help you guys help them, I want
to do the same thing. So listen, your life saving
donation can provide those security needs that they have, like
placing bomb shelters in their communities and making sure that
they have all of the supplies. When that siren goes off,
those folks only have fifteen seconds or less to get
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to safety. IFCJ has helped to renovate install nearly three
thousand bomb shelters to date, as Israel and her people
live with the harsh reality of terror every you, guys,
you can be the support. You can help address those
emergency security needs like food. I mean think about that,
as simple as food and bomb shelters, flack jackets, all
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these other essentials that we don't have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You can help.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We are asking our listeners today to give fifty dollars
or any other amount you can give to provide life
saving aid to these folks. Just visit SUPPORTIFCJ dot org.
It's one word, support IFCJ dot org. And you can
help right now too. Now I want to bring Robin
because you're listening to me talk about what we can
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do for the folks on the ground in Israel. But
what is going on in New York City right now?
When we look at Columbia University, I mean we're seeing
windows broken out. They were given this demand that they
had to move out, they could not have this occupation
on campus anymore, and instead they went completely the other direction.
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What are you seeing on the ground?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So really shocking. We came in this morning, ready to
do the show with one plan, and this all happened,
you know, overnight at Columbia, so plans changed. I don't
know how at this point, this academic president at Columbia,
Manu Chaffique, I don't know how she keeps her job.
Claudine Gay and Liz McGill, they were forced to resign
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or fired for doing a lot less than what we're
seeing happening at Columbia. But overnight, and again it's I'm
all for protests. Protesting is part of our right to
live in this country, the best country on the planet.
But when you start breaking the law, you've got to
break up these protests. The NYPD is not allowed on campus.
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All these campuses are private campus security or whatever they
call them now like school safety officers. They clearly can't
handle what's going on last night. Yeah, broken windows. Students
formed a barricade with chairs and desks and furniture on
the inside. On the outside, they locked arms. They use
zip ties to lock all the doors, and then they
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blacked out the windows in this one academic building, Hamilton Hall,
so people can't see what's going on inside. Not only
is that a fire hazard, but it's a huge risk
to anybody inside the building if something were to go wrong.
So I don't know why, I don't know when it's
appropriate for the National Guard to be called, but to me,
this is when you do something like that for the
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safety of people inside and outside that building, and right
now nothing's being done, nothing's.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Being I mean it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You make a really good point because you're reminding me
of the Chaz zone that we had. We saw what
in twenty twenty, but people we ended up with two
young people murdered in there. We had multiple rapes, Right,
How did they even know what's going on? You said something,
you said, I'm all for protests, and I agree with that.
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I think what has happened though, because we saw that
happening in Seattle and people were just like, oh, it's
going to be the summer of love. We'll wait, and
they became rioters. They became violent, they started stealing from
each other.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Remember when these young people were like I had I
laugh to laugh because they're like, I had my iPad
out and the people in the chat zone said that
we should share, and so someone just took it. Now
I don't have it anymore. Yes, welcome to socialism. This
is a great project for you. It sucks, doesn't it.
But I think they got used to the fact that
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protests meant something different. I mean, look at Minneapolis and
what happened there, and you had Kamala Harris saying stay
in the streets.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That was not a protest, that's a riot. There's a difference.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, And Kamala Harris was a candidate back then before
the twenty twenty election, so she was able to donate
to bail funds and try to bail these these criminals out,
and that helped her. I think that helped them in
twenty twenty to win the election. Here we are four
years later, it's much different situation. That was also we
were dealing with the pandemic, and that was all post
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George Floyd. Much different circumstance. Now Kamala and Joe are
running for president again, and this is I don't know
how the administration doesn't pay a serious political price for
what's going on at these schools. And I just think
about it like this, If you were a senior in
twenty twenty and you had your graduation canceled because of COVID,
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if you go to one of now it's like three
dozen schools that have canceled graduation ceremony, canceled commencement. Four
years later, you're not going to have a graduation ceremony.
That's going to affect you for the rest of your life.
And I don't know how that doesn't impact Joe and
Kamala on election day. If I'm a parent or a
grandparent and I've given money to a five twenty nine
and saved and done all the right things to have
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this one moment when I can see my son or
daughter graduate from college or one of these universities, and
this happens, I'm blaming the administration.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But they're not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I even in Michigan, we have Rashida Talib,
who is one of the people who leads the charge
on these discussions, on these protests, and she had a
protest in the Capitol, and ever Rudy's.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Like, oh, that's different.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's Rashida Talib having this protest. We don't have to
get mad about this one. But she's leading all of
these things. And yet we don't have even the Michigan
delegation coming out and saying this is not okay.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
We do not agree with what these people are doing.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I think it's kind of like they started this situation
with twenty twenty. They encouraged this back then, they were
okay with all of these things happening, and now they
don't know how to come out and say this is
not this is not okay.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, and it's scary. I don't know what it's going
to take for this too, for the I mean, yesterday
at the White House, Karine Jean Pierre had her normal
Monday briefing and she was asked about this and she said, yeah,
we condemn anti Semitic protests, but they didn't they want
it both ways. She didn't come out and say these
campuses should be cleared, clouding gay. You know, yesterday two o'clock,
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two pm in New York was the deadline to clear
out this, all the encampment tents and all the you know,
this is fund from the outside. Not to mention, nobody's
talking about the fact that the majority of these rioters.
Now this has gone from protest to riot. Certainly at UNC,
certainly at Columbia. These are riots now. We called it
that in twenty twenty. You've got to call it that now.
But the majority of these people. One kid was interviewed
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and he was like in his thirties. I was like,
this is definitely not an undergrad a lot of these things.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's the Yes, these are not students.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, they're not students.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And how do you even know because they have their
faces masked. You know, this is something that we've talked
about in Michigan. I mean, we have an anti clan
law here that means you can't have your face in
a mask too. And when you're harassing people or publicly protesting.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You cann't, which.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Obviously is an old law. But the question is why
should you be allowed to say that you are Hamas,
which is a terrorist organization. I find this very interesting.
They're saying we are Hamas, they're saying death to America.
They're making statements that are in line with terrorism. And
I think that we also have to say students of
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this age are the prime target for a radicalization. These groups,
these these terrorist groups, they know what they're doing. This
is what they do. They radicalize young people and they
create terrorists. You see a huge swath of people across
these campuses that are praying five times a day to Allah.
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Wait a minute, these are not students who are of
the Islamic faith. They're suddenly being dragged into an extremist faction.
And I'm like, why isn't the FBI investigating this or
saying anything about it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, they're too busy writing down the license plate numbers
of Catholics, you know, when they're church on Sunday. Seriously,
here are some of the chants that we've heard just
at Columbia. Yes, Amas, we love you, We support your
rockets too. Let's kill every Jew, it's right to rebel
Israel can go to Hell. To your point, yeah, it's
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beyond indoctrination. Hamas is recruiting. They are actively recruiting. And
Hamas so the Nazis. Where that was the government in
Germany in the nineteen thirties and forties, Hamas is the
government in Gaza. So you can say they are the
Nazis of today, or you could say, fine, we're in
New York City. These people are saying Hamas, we love you.
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That would be like saying al Qaeda we love you, you know,
on September twelfth, right after nine to eleven and doing that,
you know, just blocks from ground zero. That's where we are.
That's how sick this is. This is not like protesting
the Vietnam War in nineteen sixty eight and leading up
to the election in sixty eight. This is completely different.
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And I was talking to my parents were both in
college in that time period, and they were like, yeah,
we had guest speakers from both sides come on to
campus and talk to students. We had like candlelight vigils.
They were It was a lot. There was some violence,
certainly in the late sixties, but not what we're seeing
right now, and it's not as coordinated. You know, these
chants what you're seeing on campus at Columbia being on
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campuses out in California. Now, how does that happen? They're
not watching the news. No, it's because it's all coordinated.
The signs. Instead of there being like poster boards that
you buy and then write something with a sharpie, all
these signs are manufactured and printed and then distributing right
at these campuses. That's coordination. Who's funding it? Is it
Soros connected groups? Is it dark money like we saw
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in twenty twenty, connected to various Democratic boosters. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But why at a time when we have the director
of the FBI coming out and saying there are red
red flags everywhere we should be concerned about an attack
on US soil at any time it could be coming.
And yet you have students who are threatening this death
to America, take the United States down. I mean, in
the midst of just receiving these proof of life videos
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of hostages that are still being held by Hamas, and
they have so little regard for human life that they
are out there calling for the rest of the Jewish
state to be eliminated. This is unheard of. I think
it's interesting that you bring up the sixties because the
protests then were really about peace, and they will lie
and say this is about a ceasefire, but it's not.
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They've made it clear what they want. They want Israel
wiped off the map.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, and the ceasefire, that's up to Hamas. That's Hamas's choice.
They can lay down their arms at any time, and
Israel's going to go into Rafa and they're going to
close this thing out. And it doesn't matter what the
people on college campuses and the US have to say
about it. It's really sad. You're in Michigan, and I
think we look at it when we're covering it as
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this is the Biden Michigan maybe Minnesota policy. They don't
want to lose the what sixteen electoral votes in Michigan
in November, so they're letting this happen. And I'm thinking
about it now, at what cost because now you're alienating
every other state just to win Michigan. So at what
cost are you going to give up? Because if Trump
wins Pennsylvania, it's also over for Joe Biden. And the
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math right now after that CNN pol on Sunday. The
math is in Donald Trump's favor. Now we've got six
months to go. But what's it going to take. Is
it going to take one of these students, a Jewish student.
Is it going to take somebody getting killed or seriously
injured for Joe Biden to come out and condemn not
only anti Semitism but the riots now that we're seeing
on campus. Is that what it's going to take, because
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that's also going to alienate him to view or two voters.
And I just don't understand what the White House's strategy
is right now.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You bring up Michigan, and I think that the reason
that they are so concerned about Michigan is because of
that one hundred thousand strong uncommitted vote that happened in
the primary, which they were not expecting. They, I mean,
even Gretchen Whitmer was out saying, this is going to
be ten thousand. It's no big deal. We've got this
under control. I'mphone banking. She was calling people. She thought
that it was going to be fine. And I think
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think that even if it had just been our Arab
American community. They would have said, Okay, this is a statement.
We're going to win these folks back. And that was
essentially what she said. She came out and was pretty
much like, Hey, they're going to make a statement, but
they're with us in the end. They don't like her
first of all. But the other thing is it was
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the University of Michigan in Michigan State. They came out
and voted uncommitted. And I think this is kind of
like when Frankenstein becomes more than you can handle, because
they were the ones that put these radical ideas on
college campuses, all of this, you know, protest extremism, socialism, communism,
and now the experiment has become too big. They can't
(14:43):
handle it anymore. And really the fact that they aren't
talking at all makes me believe that they are crapping
their pants behind the scenes, going this, this is out
of control. We have no idea what to do, and
what are they going to have the guy that steals
women's suitcases at the airport fix it?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, they don't even have a real.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Staff, right right, or Rachel Levine.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Right, exactly, very effective. Let me go check on all
of their mental health. Oh, I think that the ZIP
ties are healthy for them, right, that's how they identify.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I saw a poll, this is two weeks ago that
Trump was losing to Biden in Minnesota, right next to Michigan,
by only two points.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's shocking.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Now. I know that, look, Minnesota will likely go for Biden,
but just the fact that Trump's within two that's the
margin of error. Right again, it's six months to election date.
May first is right around the corner. But let's say
the election were tomorrow. Trump not only wins in the
electoral college, I think he wins the popular vote, like
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Reagan nineteen eighty four, like landslide. Trump win because people.
It's not Sometimes when we're doing the show, will make
a list of things that people are paying too much for.
I'm like, guys, producers, I'm going to save you like
an hour. Everything costs too much. Right now, everything costs
too much. That's America. The economy is the entire election.
(16:03):
And I think the border in what we're seeing on
these college campuses, all of that just only that adds
to it. That only adds to it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
There are little signs and I think people were like, oh,
you're a Republican. So you're saying this, but even this morning,
I took my car in to get an oil change,
and as I walked out, all of the guys who had.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Their little stations, they were like, is Trump going to win?
Run again?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Get Gretchen Wimer out of here. We have got to
make sure that the state goes back.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
In the late seventies, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford seventy six,
and he did it again in eighty Check that eighty four.
This is again it's anecdotal, But to your story about
getting oil changed. When I get into the city, I
park my car in the same garage, right in the building,
and the guys that work there, these are not guys
that were Trump voters four years ago, but they're Trump
voters now and they know what I do. But every
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morning I have a little you know, exchange with them
and they're like, you know, sleepy Joe, and they you know,
they make fun of Joe Biden. I'm seeing this everywhere.
In nineteen seventy six, Johnny Carson the Tonight Show, he
would pull the audience in the studio audience. He'd be like,
how many of you like Gerald Ford? And by round
of applause, how many like Jimmy Carter, and Jimmy Carter
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got around, he got a louder round of applause. Carter won.
He did that again in eighty or eighty four, and
the round of applause for Reagan, I guess it was
eighty for Reagan beating Carter, and Carter got like four
colaps and it was like overwhelming for Reagan. And that
wasn't what the polls were saying, but that's what the
American people were saying. And it's anecdotal. But your oil
(17:34):
change story, I totally buy that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh my gosh, did you see Pelosi trying to pretend
like he created this great economy and all these jobs.
She comes out, she's on CNN. It was CNN, right, Sarah, Yeah,
she's on CNN, and she's like, you know, Trump had
a terrible economy and he lost more jobs than any
other president, and Joe Biden has brought all these jobs back.
(17:57):
And even the CNN host was like, I mean, it
was a global pandemic.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And she just went off on this woman.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
She's like, oh, oh, I didn't know you were a
Trump apologist. And this lady's like, literally, no one would
call me that, but they're losing it. And that's what
when you see Nancy Pelosi losing it. I mean, she
has been in control for a very long time. And
I know that people remember her ripping up the speech
and they're like, oh, that was a moment.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Where she lost it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But to get where she had been as the Speaker
of the House and the total control that she had
over the Democrat Party for so many years and I
believe still has, she doesn't lose her cool easily. And
so the fact that she would lose her cool when
they say, you know, I mean he had a little help.
This was a global pandemic. Of course, that is a fact.
(18:46):
I give the CNN lady props for actually saying it.
She lost her Oh, Sarah's actually holding up a sign
saying no is I MSNBC. So that's even more incredible
that MSNBC was like no, no, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Think it was Katie. And when I heard that, yeah,
wait really yeah. And it's so the unemployment rates at
like a fifty year low, and I think, yeah, Joe Biden,
if he knew it were legitimate, he'd be like, look,
the uneployment rate's at a fifty year low. It's pandemic
jobs that have come back, but it's also there are
more side hustles. Right now, more Americans have more than
one job than ever before in our history. And you
could say, well, that's the way the economy is trending,
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and I'm like, no, I think if you ask the
people that have two or three jobs all of these
side hustles, I think they'd rather just have one job
and have a w two and just make it easier.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Than right exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I mean when you see the man on the street
in New York City saying what he said about Joe
Biden and saying it's time for Trump again, it's very
interesting because we're looking at two men who have been president,
so you don't have a question as to how either
of them would be.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So when you have the Union guy on the side
of the road say we want to go back to Trump.
He's seeing this from a position of knowing what Trump was,
knowing what that the communit is like under Trump, and
saying I want that back. That has to panic the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, you know, we had the correspondence dinner on Saturday,
and these are all I mean, there's no more sycophantic
audience than the audience at the Washington Hilton the last
Saturday in April for the Correspondence dinner. They're like sock puppets,
you know, sitting there just nodding their heads, you know,
while while Biden speaks on Sunday, CNN comes out with
a pole and include if RFK is part of the poll,
(20:26):
Trump's leading Biden by nine points, takes out he's leading
him by six. To put that into perspective, Trump never
had a number like that against Hillary or certainly not
Biden in twenty twenty. But if the roles were reversed
and Biden were leading Trump by nine points yesterday, it
would have been wal to wall. This election is over.
(20:46):
It's a foregone conclusion. If I'm at the White House,
I don't what do we do? What can the White
House do to shake it up? First of all, they've
got to get rid of Koreen Jean Pierre. I know
they brought in John Kirby for the tough questions, but
that's also a really bad look. Bring in a middle
a white male, you know, whenever the questions get difficult
about your right.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's why they can't get rid of her.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, but at this point it's about winning an election.
And she is so dense, and I mean that literally,
she is just she cannot answer a question. It's bad
for the administration and it's bad messaging. Yesterday she was
able to condemn anti Semitism, but not the riots. Why
not just go all the way?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Just go all because they didn't in twenty twenty. They can't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
They are so paralyzed by this because they just don't
know how to do it. They want, they need the students.
They know that the students have gone so far to
the left that they can't get them back. And if
they can't get the students, they can't win. Look on
election night in Michigan for the gubernatorial race, Michigan State
had their polling place open until eleven o'clock at night
(21:49):
because they were registering people and having them vote the
same day. I'm sure these are students that were registered
at home. They're suddenly registering them here in Michigan. But
you know who's going to have be the on that.
I mean, our Secretary of State is a Democrat, right,
So they're registering people all night. They know that that
is the vote that puts them over the edge. So
if they suddenly don't have Jewish people, if they suddenly
(22:12):
don't have this college students, and they have minorities turning
against them, because let's face it, Hispanics do not like
this open border.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And the black.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Community believes that they are losing money under Joe Biden
because they are everybody is as you said, It's like,
we don't have to guess here, everybody is losing money
right now. It's a total crap show in the United States.
And there's nothing that they can say that's good right now.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I mean, what can they offer. It's that's why Nancy.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Pelosi's out there like he created all these jobs and
people are like, oh.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But did he even like think about student loan forgiveness?
Like do you really want to forgive these students loans
right right now?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, that's a perfect that is a perfect comment
right there. That's something that the Republicans should be running
away with. These are the kids. And it's weird too.
I was talking to someone about this this morning. It's
very weird to me that these students who are the
best of the best, unless they are not the best
of the best, unless they reduce the requirements to get
(23:13):
into these schools, would have done everything they did to
get into schools like Columbia to then get expelled because
they locked the doors and broke the windows over a
fight that they suddenly just learned it.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
They just learned about this.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Let's not over did the student body underinformed, overly emotional?
You know, to say the least, the other part of
this that is not getting discussed. And I don't know, Tutor,
Where did you go to school?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
University Kentucky?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Okay, good school I went to.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I know We're in the top fifty most conservative schools,
so I'm proud of them.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
That's that's I like that. I went to small school
in Connecticut, Fairfield University, Catholic College. There have not been
any protests at Fairfield. I don't remember seeing anything about
pro tests at University of Kentucky. I could be wrong,
but no one about this aspect. Now. Fairfield's a good school.
Kentucky's a good school. It's not Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard,
(24:10):
Penn Columbia. It's not an Ivy League school where these
are happening. For the most part, there are exceptions, but
for the most part, these are the top academic institutions
in the country that produce the worst people upon graduation,
and all the schools that just produce good people like
you and me and just normal, like adjusted, well adjusted,
(24:35):
normal American people. You're not seeing it there, but nobody
wants to mention that part of it. You know what.
I looked at it. I was like, I wonder if
this is happening last week when it was happening in
more than one hundred and twenty five college campuses, I
was like, is Fairfield on that list.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, it's not right because those kids are probably also
not trending to the far left. I mean, what we've
seen with this get parents out of lives, police kids apart,
twist up their emotions. They've done this and now they
don't know how to untwist it. I mean, even John Fetterman.
You watch John Fetterman, He's almost become like the comic
(25:10):
relief in this because he's like, yeah, shut up, I'm
not on your side.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I love you. He's great. His brain broke, he had
a stroke before the primary in Pennsylvania, and May he
healed and he became a Republican.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I mean, it's I wouldn't say he's a full Republican
because he's still but he's like, I'm not a progressive,
and I would have classified him as a progressive.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
His outfit choices are still incredibly odd.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But I think that it's powerful that he's just going
to stand up to these people and not let them go.
I before I let you go, though, I do have
to bring up animals, because yeah, yeah, we have a
little bit of an issue on our side. Everybody is
wondering who Trump's VP is going to be, so they've
(25:56):
been like, you know, there's all these different options. I've
heard Ben Carson, I've heard Tim Scott, I've heard Christy
Nome and I'm pretty sure she just shot her chances good.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Well, yes she's she's out of the beepsteaks. Yeah, that's it.
It's over. The book hasn't come out. I read the
thing in the Guardian. I don't think there's any way
that you can make a case, even if there's a
case to be made for shooting a fourteen month old
puppy in the head. I just I don't and I
don't hump pheasant, but I just I don't think there's
(26:30):
a case to be made for that. And I think
Trump's too smart to select somebody like Christy Nome. Now,
I do think it's interesting that Trump got together with
the Santis, not at Lago over the weekend. Trump went
to DeSantis, and I.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Think a weird way he ended that message. Did you
notice that when he put the message out on true
Social and at the end he noted the election day,
I like, met with the Santis November? What is it
the third or the fifth?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Fifth?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
November fifth will be a big day. I'm like, okay,
what what are you playing at? I think he's just
playing because he loves to play.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Reagan ran with Bush and they hated each other and
it was a really contentious primary process, and then Reagan said,
all right, he's the guy. Kennedy ran with LBJ. They
actually hated each other, but Kennedy needed Texas. DeSantis, I
think is the inverse of Reagan and George H. W. Bush.
Trump can only serve four years, right rightta.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He has to set somebody up who's going to be
And that has been the complaint people have had, is like,
well does if Trump, if something happens to Trump or
just the next term is a Ben Carson? The right
guy to step in is it, Tim Scott the right
guy to step in. People are looking for that person
who's leading. I've noticed that DeSantis has come out with
a lot of He's been pushing a lot of that I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Leading here tweets. You know, if you're watching what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's also interesting because the messages that he's putting out,
I am the executive. I can take care of everything,
and so I don't see that from these other folks.
I mean certainly not that I'm releasing a book about
shooting a dog in the head.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So I'm shaking that she's out.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And Ben Carson. I like Ben Carson, but he's kind
of sleepy, you know, like that there's no wow factor,
there's no pop to Ben Carson. I think.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, but okay, let me counter that though, because I
do think that Trump struggles to have somebody who's not
a little bit quiet, because he loves to be the
guy who's that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He doesn't want anybody to overshadow him.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Good point, but he lost in twenty twenty, and now
it's true. It's all about winning now, and I think
there are DeSantis is a lot to like. If Trump wins,
he's president for four years, that sets up maybe eight
years of Ron DeSantis, just like Reagan for eight years
and Bush before after that, and he should have been Clinton,
but ross Buro had a huge impact in the ninety
two election. This is unpopular, but I think that Nicki
(28:57):
Haley is in the conversation as well. Just Pennsylvania primary
last week, she got one hundred and fifty five thousand votes,
seventeen percent of the vote. Trump his campaign to date
has been lights out, but I think they've got to
figure out a way to win over those kind of
middle of the road, those people that like Nicki Haley,
maybe those more center Republicans. They have to figure it out.
(29:20):
Pennsylvania was a great example, twenty electoral votes, huge battleground state.
If Trump gets that sixteen percent that voted for Haley,
Trump wins Pennsylvania, He's probably president. So you can't write
off Nicki Haley. I think Desantas and Haley are the
front runners.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That is an interesting thought because I had kind of
been thinking Kamala had ruined it for a woman.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Because she's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
However, Nikki Haley is a much different person than Kamala.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Harris cackle free.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
She comes cackl me that's true.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So Trump will be in Michigan this week. We are
pre taping that so people will hear this after. But
I think that Michigan and Wisconsin will be very interesting states.
I think that Michigan, to me is very important, and
I'll just end on this and get your opinion. To me,
(30:14):
Michigan is very important because even if you're watching graphics
that they put out of federally elected people who are
going to have an impact in the country from the
Democrat side, Whitmer's pictures there. She is a statewide elected
So I think it's interesting because everybody has said Whitmer
has been given the pretty much the marching orders that
(30:38):
you deliver Michigan and you go forward. I think she thinks, well,
I deliver Michigan and I go into the cabinet and
then I'm president. Or we heard a horrifying thing the
other day that said that once she gets once they
get to the convention, if Michigan is going well in
the next few months, they swap him out for her.
(30:59):
I don't see how she and Kamala are on a
ticket together, but I don't know, because the young people
love her really interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I hadn't heard that, but that's really fascinating. I do
think there's something to Joe maybe not making it to
November fifth, to election day. Again, it's six months, but
he's taken a turn for the worse, and this is
what happens with dementia or whatever he's dealing with between
the years. But clearly things are not going well for
(31:30):
Joe Biden upstairs. He can't get through a single scripted speech,
and he committed with Howard Stern to debating Trump. Trump,
Like I said, I think the campaign so far as
Ben Light's out, I think that a debate with Biden
could definitely benefit Trump, but it could also be a
trap because Biden twice he has been able to get
(31:51):
up for these things in the past. Certainly in twenty
twenty his State of the Union wasn't great, but I
think a lot of people expected him to like fall
asleep on stage. That's a tricky one for me, But
I'm not convinced that Biden makes it. I mean, he's
eighty one going on eighty two right after election deck,
so something could happened with his health. But clearly, you
(32:11):
know upstairs, the cheese has slipped off the cracker for him, let's.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on a
Tutor Dixon podcast. I think you have to remember that
a debate between Trump and Hillary was equal footing. She
was able to give as good as she got. That
was an interesting debate. There were a lot of comments
made that could be clipped, and it just felt like
(32:37):
equal footing. Two of the same warriors battling each other.
The problem with Trump debating Biden is because he is frail,
because he is fragile. If he pushes, it will turn
people away from him. Because everybody kind of sees that
frailness in Joe Biden, and even though they hate.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It, you don't want to exploit it.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
And so for all of the people out there that
are always like, I want this to debate, I want
this debate, you just have to remember that when you
have someone who is strong, who is confident, who is
able to push back on someone who should be in
a nursing home, that could go poorly.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah. I think so. If you ever watched that movie
Game Change, it's based on the book two thousand and eight,
Biden only had one VP debate with Sarah Palin, and
the whole Biden team said, listen, because this is back
when Joe still had a brain, so he was, you know,
successful event in the Senate for a long time, Irish
(33:33):
gift to gab, you know, he was. You know, we
didn't hear anything about a stutter back then. Suddenly now right, yeah,
Joe Biden redeveloped a stutter in his eighties. Remarkable. But
they told him, they said, listen, when you're debating Sarah Palin,
let her do ninety percent of the talking because people
know who you are. You don't need to introduce yourself
to a national audience. That's what he did. The debate
went off. You know, it was fine. I think you
know SNL obviously parodied Sarah Palin. If I were on
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Trump's team right now and he debates Joe Biden, I'd say, looks, President,
let Joe Biden do ninety nine percent of the talking
because he will get himself into trouble. You don't need
to go after Joe Biden. People know who you are.
But let him. Let him tell stories about how his
uncle was eaten by other people, you know him. Let
(34:17):
him go down that lane, which he will do.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Get him into some good old cannibalism, maybe a swimming pool.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know, the poor people of New Guinea. It's but
let him do that. And I think that's the only
winning strategy for Trump, which is going to be very
hard for Trump. If you know Trump in a debate set.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Exactly well, if you know Trump in any setting, he
likes to be the person talking, and so that is
definitely the challenge. So when everybody is like, I want
to see them debate, I had somebody say to me
the other day, I want to see them debate because
I would like to know who I'm voting for. And
I'm like, come on, I mean, it's different when you
have two candidates, like for me and at Gretchen Whitmer,
(34:54):
that was a different story. People really genuinely wanted to
see who the two of us were.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You know these guys.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I don't necessarily, I'm not married to needing a debate,
but I do think that there should be some sort
of requirement that he is out in public and people
get to see who he really is. I'd rather just
have him to a town hall Joe Biden, because I
think that's enough for people to go, yeah, he's not okay,
but we will keep following it and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, sounds good. I think Joe Biden not doing interviews
is a big tell. He's a bit as a big
tell no one on one interviews. So like, I would
just like to see Joe Biden answer ten questions in
a row and give reasonable answers.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I don't know if you saw that weird Drew Barrymore
interview with Kamala Harris. Why does she have to be
first of all, Drew Barrymore is very strange where she gets.
She like pops a squad on the couch and she
gets right in your face. But she was like, right now,
we don't need Kamala Harris. We need Mamala Harris. And
I saw someone like this is the problem. Democrats think
(35:57):
that these people are surrogate parents and they're supposed to
be leaders.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
We don't want somebody who is going to come in
and make the bed and give us a peanut butter
and jelly at night. We want somebody who's actually going
to be able to lead and sit down with our adversaries.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And our allies. And right now, these people can't do it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Such a good point. Just don't screw everything up, please, right,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
But that's already happened.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes, Rob Finnerty, thank you so much for your time today.
It's always fun having you on, and thank you all
for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this
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