May 3, 2024 • 30 mins
In this episode, Yael Eckstein, President and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, discusses the organization's mission to support Christians and Jews in Israel. She highlights the importance of spirituality and the biblical calling to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and bless Israel. Yael also shares the challenges faced by the people of Israel, including constant threats and the need for bomb shelters. She emphasizes the role of the fellowship in providing aid, such as food, clothing, and shelter, to those in need. Yael addresses the rise of anti-Semitism and the importance of recognizing and despising evil. She also discusses the support of Christians around the world and the impact of their donations. You can help support now by visiting SupportIFCJ.org. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You have heard me
in the last few weeks talking a lot about the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and we've been talking
about giving to the organization, helping to support our brothers
and sisters in Israel. And so today I wanted to
bring in the president and the CEO. Her name is
yah El Extein, and she is going to talk to
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us about what the organization does. But also we just
kind of want to get into what's happening in the
world right now too, because certainly we didn't think that
we would see a time when there would be such
open anti Semitism, and I think the fact that it's
happening in the United States has been incredibly shocking. So yeah,
I'll thank you so much for joining me today. I'm
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so glad you're here. Just tell us a little bit
about the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, firstly, it's such an honor to be here with you,
so thank you for hosting me do such important work,
and your messages are just so profound. So I'm honored
to be our guest today. Thank you. Here in Jerusalem,
as you see the Jerusalem Stone behind me. The International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews represents you and your listeners.
We are the largest philanthropic organization in Israel where we
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represent Christians and Jews who stand with Israel, and today
that has taken on a whole new meeting as far
as all the different politics and policies. But the message
of the Fellowship has nothing to do with politics or policies.
It has to do with spirituality. It has to do
with the calling and the scriptures to pray for the
piece of Jerusalem and to bless Israel and the Jewish
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people the promise of Genesis twelve three. And so what
we do in Israel to everyone in need, we provide
them with food, we provide them with clothing, with shelter,
just as the Bible outlines. And we do that in
the name of millions of Christians who stand with and
pray for Israel.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
What's happening over there right now, I mean, we've talked
a little bit about the bomb shelters and everything that
you are helping people with. I think that for some
of us who are here haven't been able to actually
go visit Israel, there is certainly a connection. There's a
heart connection and obviously there's a connection between our two countries,
but describe to us a little bit what it's like
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on the ground and why this help is so needed.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, the situation Israel is on one hand terrifying. I'm
a mother of four, I have a daughter who's going
to the army in just a few months, and nieces
and nephews who are defending Israel right now as we
speak of both the northern and southern border, there's no
one in Israel who hasn't been affected by the October
seventh vicious attacks, where it was the worst attack on
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the Jewish people since the Holocaust, Which just to stop
for a second and digest that in our days where
we value freedom and liberty, where we have been saying
for close to eighty years never again, that we stand
together against anti Semitism, that it's possible that right now
as we seek there are one hundred and thirty innocents
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is ray Leis from one year old to eighty five
years year old in Gaza being tortured by terrorists, and
instead of the world turning to call for their release,
we're seeing protests, which we'll speak about soon, standing up
for the terrorists who are bringing this onslaught of war
and terror, not just on Israel, but on Europe, on America,
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in the world, and so the Fellowship is here help
the people who are hurting, both to provide bomb shelters.
Like you said, we've provided thousands of bomb shelters and
most strategic locations that help school children and elderly who
need to take buses to the supermarket get food. Wherever
you go in Israel, you'll see a shelter donated by
the Fellowship. And whenever I see these, I always think
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about in the Bible, how God says to be watchmen
on the walls, that the Guardian of Israel neither slumbers
nor sleeves, And these are literally saving lives. Just last week,
I was actually down south and saw five bomb shelters
that were shot at that had trapnel holes in them.
These are Fellowship shelters that we least recently that saved
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the lives of people inside. So we're literally saving lives.
And then for those who have lost their jobs, who
have been evacuated, we're bringing them food, We're bringing them
the basics, and even though they feel so forgotten, we're
telling them you're not forgotten. There are millions of people,
maybe what you would call the silent majority, who are
remembering you, who are praying for you, who are caring
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for you, and that message is more powerful than anything
I could imagine.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Right now, it's hard for us here to actually understand
what it's like to be under this type of attack constantly.
And I remember, probably man, it was probably about seventeen
years ago. Now, I was on the plane next to
a gentleman who was a Israeli resident, and that was
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a citizen. That's where he lived, and he was and
we were on gosh, it must have been like a
four hour plane ride, and the entire time he was
telling me, you just don't understand because you live here,
and you know, we are used to hearing the missiles
come overhead, We're used to hearing the explosions. And it
was so powerful to me because I was young, you know,
seventeen years ago, I was naive to what it was
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really like to live overseas in a constant war zone,
which is what this is. And that's why I think
so important for people to understand what a really challenging
move it was to have the Abraham Accords signed under
President Trump and to have that moment of peace in
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the Middle East, and we thought that that peace in
the Middle East would expand, and then this happened. When
you see this happening, do you think that this is
all based out of Iran and that's really where this
is coming from.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Wow, You've just now brought up so many important points,
and I'm going to start with what you were talking
about saying next to Israeli man, just talking about what
it's like with life in Israel. And on one hand,
life in Israel is happy and faithful, and we're the
most resilient nation in the sense of we were just
voted as the number fifth happiest country in the world,
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and that was after the October seventh attacks. When they
come to Israel, you see people sitting at coffee shops
enjoying life because we rejoice in the Lord. We rejoice
in the goodness that God gave us, and if we
are here today, we're going to rejoice. But on the
other hand, there's a side of Israel that let me
paint it out for you. We were just talking about
how we both have four children and in Israel, different
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parts of Israel, you have between fifteen seconds and ninety
seconds when a code red siren sounds fine, shelter means
a missile is on the way to exactly where you are. Now,
if you're driving in your car four children and you
have thirty seconds, you have to decide which child you're
going to unbuckle and bring to the shelter with you,
because if you try to unbuckle all four of them,
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you're not going to make it the shelter in time.
What do you do as a mother when you're driving
to school in the code red siren blairs to choose?
Do you stay there, vulnerable with your children in the car,
praying that the missile won't hit you. Do you grab
one child and run to shelter that you'll make it
on time. That these are the type of situations that
every single parent has dealt with, And so that's why
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the reality here is in a way of paradox. On
one hand, you would think that we would be an
angry people, we would be a sad people, we would
be a distraught people. But no, we're happy people that
live in faith because God provides, God protects us. But
it's also very important that within that part that cherishes
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life and that seeks life and that enjoys life, you
have to still recognize the evil. And so that leads
to your question about the evil that we're seeing today.
We saw I was at the opening of the US
Embassy in Jerusalem that historic day where people thought that
it was going to start World War three. I remember
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I was there my friends Ralph Reid and Penny Nance
from concerning Women of America, and it was incredible to
be witnessing history and be part of history. And we
saw how that passed. Not only did not start World
War three, it started without any it started and it
ended without any attacks, without any wars. And with that,
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I remember thinking at that moment, what we need against terrorists,
against Iran and Iranian proxies is to show strength that
we stand with the truth. We're going to do what's right,
We're going to do it just, and we're not going
to be bullied. And I was actually just reading today
that Saudi Arabia outlawed talking against Israel or a potential
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peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel. In Morocco, they
put a man in jail for five years for talking
bad about Israel.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Now, what did.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
These countries understand that Colombia doesn't, that Yale doesn't, that
UCLA doesn't. They understand that there are a fine line
between criticizing Israel and everyone's allowed to be critical of
any specific policies, but criticizing Israel and the Jewish people
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and calling for an antifada and saying from the river
to the sea, which means Israel she destroyed, and standing
with Hamas and replacing American flags with a hamask flag,
with the Palestinian flag, with the Hasbella flags. That is
the line that the Arab world understands. The moderate Arab
world that you're talking about, you can't cross.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, I think it's interesting because
the modern air world has tried really hard to change
the opinion of other countries because they are looking for trade,
they're looking for tourism, and Saudi Arabia made some big
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steps toward tourism. A few years ago. They said women can.
There was a lot of changes with the way they
were treating women. And it's funny because my daughter literally
was just learning about this in social studies that they've
really been trying to bring tourists into their country, but
Americans and people in the Western world look at the
culture and say, I don't know, am I safe there?
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Should I bring my daughters there? Should I bring my
wife there? And that is kind of the gem of
Israel in the Middle East, because Israel is very much
a progressive nation. You go there and it is very
much like any city that you would see in the
United States. It's very free and very loving, and you're
very safe and people are very equal. That's not what
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we see in other countries in the Middle East. But
I think some of those countries are trying to trend
that way, and I wonder if that's why they've kind
of come to the support of Israel, saying, look, as
a world, we have to be able to have trade,
we have to be able to visit one another's countries.
And that hasn't historically been the way it's been for
the Western world. Going into the Middle East. It's kind
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of been like, we're gonna wave off of that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, the verse that comes to mind as you're talking
is in Hebrew yeshuatashemkarifying redemption from the Lord can come
in the blink of an eye. We never would have
thought that we would have peace deals with all these
different Arab countries, even with Jordan, the country Jordan right
next to Israel shooting down Iranian missiles in order to
protect Israel, also to protect themselves, but standing on the
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side with those Western allies like you say, I think
there's a lot of reasons for it, from tourism to
trade to the mutual threat of Iran. What Iran is
trying to do is take over the world with radical Islam,
and the moderate Arab countries recognize that as a threat
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just as much as Israel does. Interesting and so what
we're seeing is new bombs forming. Like you said, in Israel,
women could dress however they want. You go to Israel,
you feel like you're in the middle of I don't
know North Carolina or Florida or any of America's best cities,
that there's freedom. Something that many people don't know is
at in Israel. We have a twenty percent minority population,
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which is mostly Bedouin Drew's Muslim, and you see them everywhere.
They're completely integrated into society, the doctors at the hospital,
to the pharmacists, to the people in the kanesse, the
government workers and representatives that Israel is a free society,
and what we realize is there are evil forces that
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find that as a threat. But it's the same evil
forces that find America threat, that find Europe a threat.
And as they say, Israel's a little Satan, America is
a big Satan. First they go for the Saturday people,
then they go for the sun Lead people.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right. Well, if you take a look at the history
of Iran, I think that's also very interesting in this
context because just a generation ago there were also women
who were able to wear whatever they wanted. It was
a much freer country. And so when you talk about
the fear of radical Islam taking over, and this is
being celebrated by Iran right now, let us be honest.
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There have been news reports that Iran has come out
and said, hey, we are happy to see these protests
on college campuses, and we've seen all of the signs,
the posters they're holding up, they are all the same
across college campuses. There is someone funding this. They are
glad to see their propaganda being spread across the United States.
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And it is a very different Radical Islam is unlike
any other culture, right, it's a very different culture and
it's not welcomed in many areas of the world, as
you said, for when you look at the other parts
of the Middle East, they're not looking to be radicals,
they're not looking to be extremists, and so they don't
like the idea of Iran celebrating extremism.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But it happened so quickly there.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It was overnight that they threw out the ruler of
On and he fled in the night, and then all
of a sudden all the freedoms were taken away and
the people there live very oppressed.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, I think that everything that we're talking about here
points to the same to the same point that we
need to recognize evil. And as people of faith, we
are so often looking to the scriptures of turn the
other cheek or love your neighbor, and we want to
love everyone and give them the benefit of the doubt
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and be there to help them and believe that everyone
just wants a good life and cherishes life, and if
they're given opportunity, they'll be able to develop that. And
what I look at is another biblical scripture that says
vashems Noura, lovers of the Lord, despise evil. That God
tells us when there's evil in your midst you are
commanded to despise it. And so what I really think
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is that in the news we are seeing the radicals.
We are seeing the people who are screaming the loudness,
doing the mo most repulsive things, and they don't represent
most Americans. There are polls after polls showing that Americans
stand with Israel, that they recognize Israel is aligned with
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their values, that these protesters are not. But they're not
getting the voice, They're not getting the representation. And that's
exactly what International Fellowship and Christians and Jews does. We
gather hundreds of thousands of Americans who say, I am
no longer relying on my government represent me when it
comes to Israel. I am no longer relying on the
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un represent me when it comes to Israel. I want
my voice heard. And so by having hundreds of thousands
of people to come together through the Fellowship, we are
the voice of Edna from Nebraska who otherwise wouldn't be
able to have a voice. And here in Israel we
go and we say, they might sound like everyone's against Israel.
It might sound like these college protesters represent the main
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stace stream America.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
But they don't.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
This food box from EDNA in Nebraska is what represents
the mainstream Americans. This bomb shelter that's saving lives as
I Ran tries to attack and kill Israeli's this bomb
shelter donated by Chris and North Carolina. This is what
represents Americans. And so I think that grassroots choice that
the Fellowship represents is more important than ever.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That grossroots voice is also education and letting people know
exactly what has happened in the past and what is
happening now. And I think right now there's a lot
of confusion. We've talked quite a bit about what the
students are getting pulled into on college campuses, and we
don't actually even know how many students this is because
as they're pulling some of these people out of here,
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we're finding out that these are people in their forties
that aren't college students, that aren't any have no affiliation
with the universities, but they're pulling these people in. How
well funded do you think this effort is against from
the research that you guys do and the protection that
you do for Christians and Jews. When you kind of
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dig into what's happening in the United States right now,
How did this happen overnight? Has this been a plan,
has this been funded by someone?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, I think anti Semitism looks different in every generation,
and never do they come out and say we're anti Semis.
There's always a reason. There were the blood libels against
the Jews for many generations, and they said the Jewish
people are taking all the jobs or the Jewish people.
There were always different reasons from the Nazis to the
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Communists to the Spanish Inquisition of why the Jews are
bad for that country. And so today we see Zionism.
That's what's become. That they're not saying the Jews, they're
saying Zionism, They're saying Israel. But we all know that
that is the same anti Semitism that we've seen throughout
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history that just looks different in every generation, but leads
to the same outcome, and that's violence, and that's killing,
and that's the Jewish people feeling threatened and actually being
threatened in many situations. And so I'll tell you what
looks different today to me than any time in the
past are two things. Number One, that the Jewish people
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have somewhere to protect them and that's Israel. There's one
Jewish country in the entire world. And as I see
the anti Semitism around the world rise, it to me
just builds a stronger case of why we need Israel.
And the second thing is that we have millions. Johnny Moore,
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Reverend Johnny Moore, who sits on my board, who's a
Christian leader, he says that there are seven hundred million
Christians around the world, from China to Korea, to South
America to North America. Seven hundred million Christians around the
world who stand with Israel and pray for Israel. And
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then we've all learned the stories of the Corey ten
Boons or the Oskar schin Learns during the Holocaust who
risked their life to save the Jews. But today what
we're seeing is the movement that we've never seen before
of Christians standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel, with the
Jewish people and saying, never again will you be alone,
even when we are at risk for saying.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That, Well, when you go after the Zionists, I guess
you're going after the Christians and the Jews. And so
this is a larger attack, which means there is more
there are more people on the other side to protect.
I want to talk about the Holocaust for a minute,
because I do think that we learn it when we're kids.
We learn about it, but it is hard to emotionally
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connect because it seems like something barbaric that happened decades ago.
You know, you can't even really connect to it. And
I will say that I've told the story before on
the podcast. It was probably twenty eighteen and we were
doing a little docuseries on Holocaust survivors and I went
to South Florida and we were interviewing people and I
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went into this couple's home and both the husband and
wife had been in concentration camps. The wife didn't speak
the entire time. The husband told us all of the stories,
and she sat there and she just seemed very standoffish.
And the only thing I will say is as I
walked out the door, she reached out and she grabbed
my arm and she looked at me and she said,
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they hate the Jews. They've always hated the Jews, and
they'll do it again. And I remember at the time
thinking and I felt guilty about this, and I think
about it a lot these days. That was so long ago.
Everybody has learned it will never happen again.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I just thought, like, no one would ever do that today.
But I don't think we realized, and I don't know
that we teach enough how hated the Jewish community is
and how hated the Christians are as well. It's like,
it's not just like you said. The evil is very
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strong and it is powerful, this mind control that they
have over young people. I mean, I think it's shocking
when I see these young people saying death to America
and kill all the Jews. I'm like, wow, I can't
believe how quickly this took cold. But I think of
that woman, and I'm like, she lived it. Why didn't
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it strike me that she knows better than I do.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's such a good point that I think all of
us feel. I'm the granddaughter of Holocaust survivor. My grandfather
all of his family, he was born in Germany, they
were all burned in the ovens of Outwitz. Only his
core family survived, and they adopted one cousin because it
was the only remaining survivor of their entire extended family,
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and that cousin's parents and siblings were all killed. I
was raised on that. My father in law is a
Holocaust survivor. He's at our house every weekend, and every
weekend he tells my children the stories of the Holocaust
and our member that many years ago. I said, okay,
I said him, with this is too much. They don't
need to hear this all the time. We're in different
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days today, it's different than it was in the nineteen thirties.
They don't need to be scared about this. And he
looked at me and he said, you think it's different, Well,
then we've learned nothing. And that was so. It's like
your experience of seeing that woman who said, you know,
it could happen again, and a part of you said,
she's being hysterical. It can't happen again. I understand it
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happened to you, but that was different. That was in Germany.
That was so long ago. We're more educated. We're all
about freedom, we respect diversity. There are laws in place,
are social norms in place, and you know what, that's
all true. But as we've seen throughout history, that applies
to everyone but the Jews and today the Christians as well.
In many ways, the Nazis, they cared about animal cruelty
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and the environment, but they had no problem burning six
million Jews and ovens. And so we have to differentiate
between society becoming more advanced, more liberal, more aware of
diversity and the importance of seeing and affecting the other,
but always realize to learn from history so that it
doesn't repeat itself. Jews and now Christians who are standing
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with the Jews are always, for whatever reason, looked at
as different than a people who deserve freedom.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
So the fellowship, how do you know who needs help?
How do you find these people? How do you make
sure you're taking care of the right people.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's a great question because I think nonprofits have a
responsibility even more than companies who are giving their charity
and anyone else to make sure that every penny is
going to where it's most needed. And so, because we're
the largest philanthropic organization in Israel, because we represent millions
of Christians around the world, we work very closely with
the government of Israel. So everyone who receives the aid
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we work with through the Welfare Department of Israel, we
build the criteria elderly Haliquest survivors over eighty years old
living only on their pension. In Israel, pension is around
five hundred dollars a month. And so imagine living in
any you know, any city in America on five hundred
dollars a month. Except for housing, in Israel's around one
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hundred percent more expensive. Cars are taxed one hundred percent.
Food is more expensive because we have to pay for
all of our military in order to make sure that
we're here tomorrow. So everything's very extensive in Israel, and
pensions are very low, and so the Fellowships creates the
criteria to know who's hungry and really means this food.
And we actually work with volunteers and local municipal social
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workers to distribute the aid. So last year we helped
over two million people in needs. Wow, with the staff
of one hundred and twenty five people.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Amazing, That is so impressive. Well, and that's why I
want people to understand that their support is going to
a good place. And we've been talking about the Fellowship
and we've been asking for support, and so today if
they're supporting, I mean I know that you know, a
few years back, it was mostly about making sure people
had the food and the supplies that they need.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Has it changed a little bit since the attacks.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, there are two different areas that the aid is
so desperately needed right now. One is for the food.
We continue to help Jews both in Israel and across Ukraine.
There are still Holocaust survivors in Ukraine that within all
of the bombing and all of the war, they are
completely alone, completely forgotten that we have volunteers there on
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the ground in the war zone of Ukraine bringing them
food boxes and telling them from Christians in America and
especially for the Holocaust survivors, a message that it sents Christians.
We go to the middle of a war zone to
provide Jewish elderly with food is something that despite the
darkness of the world, there's so much light and so
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in Israel we also are of course providing food aid,
food boxes, meals on wheels to those who need it.
And we're also very very focused on this verse comfort
comfort my people, by providing the bomb shelters, by providing
all different security vehicles like bulletproof ambulances that are so
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desperately needed, and saving lives every day. We see what's
needed and we implement the programs. We've distributed over five
thousand bulletproof helmets and black jackets to first responders on
the front lines. That it's daily that I get messages
from people who say, You're program saved my life. The
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fact that whow distributed this ambulance, this flacket, the bomb
shelter saved my life. And there's no greater reward than that.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And so I think it's important for people who are
listening because as we've been talking about supporting the Fellowship
and getting that support out there, and they've been wondering, Okay, well,
what exactly is it doing. These people know that it
came from Americans who care and love them.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes, yes, on every bomb shelter, it's very important to
us that it says donated with the love from people
in America. And so when imagine that that you go
into the bomb shelter. May you never know that situation,
but you have to rush into the bomb shelter with
your children, with your family members, maybe your elderly parents,
and you know that there are rockets on the way,
and you open up the radio and you suddenly hear
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the EU against you, the UN against you, the Arab
Union against you, even sometimes America calling for restraint and
that you don't have right to protect yourself as rockets
around the way, and then you look on the wall
as you're feeling so alone, so abandoned, and you see, oh, bat,
there are Christians, Jews, Americans have donated the shelter for me,
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that they're praying for me right now. We're not alone
and so having that plaque, having that message is critical
to all of our projects because it's not just the
life saving aid, it's the message that goes with it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Definitely not alone, and it is so nice to know
that us feeling that way, that we're actually able to
put our resources into that message that is received in Israel.
That means so much, and I'm so glad that you
came on today to talk about it again. For people
who want to help, it's support IFCJ dot org. Right,
that's where they go. Wonderful. Please make sure you do that.
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You've heard today how important this is. You've heard what
it's like to live over there, so much different than
what we know here in the United States. If you're
listening from the United States, so support IFCJ dot org.
Please any donation you can make is going to help
people before I let you go really quickly.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You have your own podcast, don't you, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I mean it's been such a joy listening to you. Honestly,
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm learning so much and
I just feel like people should.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Know that they have the opportunity to learn more from you.
So could you please share that with us as well?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Thank you so much. So. Nourish your Biblical Roots is
my podcast that you can find on all podcast platforms,
and it includes different Bible studies, different thoughts on life
in Israel and around the world, and different really fascinating
interviews with Israeli leaders, Christian leaders from Prime Minister of
Israel to Christian pastors in America, just to get different
(29:41):
perspectives on their worldview and help retains to Israel. And
you can follow me on all social media platforms where
I document my life in Israel, Yeah LSD and on Facebook, Instagram,
on LinkedIn that you'll feel a lot closer to the
Holy Land.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, it's been such a joy to talk to you,
and I think you have such a light about you
the way you talk about this. I mean, it's such
a dark subject and yet every time you brought it
back to and there's so much joy and there's so
much light. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, it's been wonderful having you on.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much, so wonderful
speaking to you, and kiss those four girls from me.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes, and you take care of that daughter. I can't
imagine how stressful it must be for you. So we
will be praying for your family. Thank you so much,
and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go to Tutor
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Speaker 3 (30:43):
Have a blessed
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You have heard me
in the last few weeks talking a lot about the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and we've been talking
about giving to the organization, helping to support our brothers
and sisters in Israel. And so today I wanted to
bring in the president and the CEO. Her name is
yah El Extein, and she is going to talk to
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us about what the organization does. But also we just
kind of want to get into what's happening in the
world right now too, because certainly we didn't think that
we would see a time when there would be such
open anti Semitism, and I think the fact that it's
happening in the United States has been incredibly shocking. So yeah,
I'll thank you so much for joining me today. I'm
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so glad you're here. Just tell us a little bit
about the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, firstly, it's such an honor to be here with you,
so thank you for hosting me do such important work,
and your messages are just so profound. So I'm honored
to be our guest today. Thank you. Here in Jerusalem,
as you see the Jerusalem Stone behind me. The International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews represents you and your listeners.
We are the largest philanthropic organization in Israel where we
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represent Christians and Jews who stand with Israel, and today
that has taken on a whole new meeting as far
as all the different politics and policies. But the message
of the Fellowship has nothing to do with politics or policies.
It has to do with spirituality. It has to do
with the calling and the scriptures to pray for the
piece of Jerusalem and to bless Israel and the Jewish
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people the promise of Genesis twelve three. And so what
we do in Israel to everyone in need, we provide
them with food, we provide them with clothing, with shelter,
just as the Bible outlines. And we do that in
the name of millions of Christians who stand with and
pray for Israel.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
What's happening over there right now, I mean, we've talked
a little bit about the bomb shelters and everything that
you are helping people with. I think that for some
of us who are here haven't been able to actually
go visit Israel, there is certainly a connection. There's a
heart connection and obviously there's a connection between our two countries,
but describe to us a little bit what it's like
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on the ground and why this help is so needed.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, the situation Israel is on one hand terrifying. I'm
a mother of four, I have a daughter who's going
to the army in just a few months, and nieces
and nephews who are defending Israel right now as we
speak of both the northern and southern border, there's no
one in Israel who hasn't been affected by the October
seventh vicious attacks, where it was the worst attack on
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the Jewish people since the Holocaust, Which just to stop
for a second and digest that in our days where
we value freedom and liberty, where we have been saying
for close to eighty years never again, that we stand
together against anti Semitism, that it's possible that right now
as we seek there are one hundred and thirty innocents
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is ray Leis from one year old to eighty five
years year old in Gaza being tortured by terrorists, and
instead of the world turning to call for their release,
we're seeing protests, which we'll speak about soon, standing up
for the terrorists who are bringing this onslaught of war
and terror, not just on Israel, but on Europe, on America,
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in the world, and so the Fellowship is here help
the people who are hurting, both to provide bomb shelters.
Like you said, we've provided thousands of bomb shelters and
most strategic locations that help school children and elderly who
need to take buses to the supermarket get food. Wherever
you go in Israel, you'll see a shelter donated by
the Fellowship. And whenever I see these, I always think
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about in the Bible, how God says to be watchmen
on the walls, that the Guardian of Israel neither slumbers
nor sleeves, And these are literally saving lives. Just last week,
I was actually down south and saw five bomb shelters
that were shot at that had trapnel holes in them.
These are Fellowship shelters that we least recently that saved
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the lives of people inside. So we're literally saving lives.
And then for those who have lost their jobs, who
have been evacuated, we're bringing them food, We're bringing them
the basics, and even though they feel so forgotten, we're
telling them you're not forgotten. There are millions of people,
maybe what you would call the silent majority, who are
remembering you, who are praying for you, who are caring
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for you, and that message is more powerful than anything
I could imagine.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Right now, it's hard for us here to actually understand
what it's like to be under this type of attack constantly.
And I remember, probably man, it was probably about seventeen
years ago. Now, I was on the plane next to
a gentleman who was a Israeli resident, and that was
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a citizen. That's where he lived, and he was and
we were on gosh, it must have been like a
four hour plane ride, and the entire time he was
telling me, you just don't understand because you live here,
and you know, we are used to hearing the missiles
come overhead, We're used to hearing the explosions. And it
was so powerful to me because I was young, you know,
seventeen years ago, I was naive to what it was
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really like to live overseas in a constant war zone,
which is what this is. And that's why I think
so important for people to understand what a really challenging
move it was to have the Abraham Accords signed under
President Trump and to have that moment of peace in
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the Middle East, and we thought that that peace in
the Middle East would expand, and then this happened. When
you see this happening, do you think that this is
all based out of Iran and that's really where this
is coming from.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Wow, You've just now brought up so many important points,
and I'm going to start with what you were talking
about saying next to Israeli man, just talking about what
it's like with life in Israel. And on one hand,
life in Israel is happy and faithful, and we're the
most resilient nation in the sense of we were just
voted as the number fifth happiest country in the world,
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and that was after the October seventh attacks. When they
come to Israel, you see people sitting at coffee shops
enjoying life because we rejoice in the Lord. We rejoice
in the goodness that God gave us, and if we
are here today, we're going to rejoice. But on the
other hand, there's a side of Israel that let me
paint it out for you. We were just talking about
how we both have four children and in Israel, different
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parts of Israel, you have between fifteen seconds and ninety
seconds when a code red siren sounds fine, shelter means
a missile is on the way to exactly where you are. Now,
if you're driving in your car four children and you
have thirty seconds, you have to decide which child you're
going to unbuckle and bring to the shelter with you,
because if you try to unbuckle all four of them,
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you're not going to make it the shelter in time.
What do you do as a mother when you're driving
to school in the code red siren blairs to choose?
Do you stay there, vulnerable with your children in the car,
praying that the missile won't hit you. Do you grab
one child and run to shelter that you'll make it
on time. That these are the type of situations that
every single parent has dealt with, And so that's why
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the reality here is in a way of paradox. On
one hand, you would think that we would be an
angry people, we would be a sad people, we would
be a distraught people. But no, we're happy people that
live in faith because God provides, God protects us. But
it's also very important that within that part that cherishes
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life and that seeks life and that enjoys life, you
have to still recognize the evil. And so that leads
to your question about the evil that we're seeing today.
We saw I was at the opening of the US
Embassy in Jerusalem that historic day where people thought that
it was going to start World War three. I remember
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I was there my friends Ralph Reid and Penny Nance
from concerning Women of America, and it was incredible to
be witnessing history and be part of history. And we
saw how that passed. Not only did not start World
War three, it started without any it started and it
ended without any attacks, without any wars. And with that,
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I remember thinking at that moment, what we need against terrorists,
against Iran and Iranian proxies is to show strength that
we stand with the truth. We're going to do what's right,
We're going to do it just, and we're not going
to be bullied. And I was actually just reading today
that Saudi Arabia outlawed talking against Israel or a potential
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peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel. In Morocco, they
put a man in jail for five years for talking
bad about Israel.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Now, what did.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
These countries understand that Colombia doesn't, that Yale doesn't, that
UCLA doesn't. They understand that there are a fine line
between criticizing Israel and everyone's allowed to be critical of
any specific policies, but criticizing Israel and the Jewish people
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and calling for an antifada and saying from the river
to the sea, which means Israel she destroyed, and standing
with Hamas and replacing American flags with a hamask flag,
with the Palestinian flag, with the Hasbella flags. That is
the line that the Arab world understands. The moderate Arab
world that you're talking about, you can't cross.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, I think it's interesting because
the modern air world has tried really hard to change
the opinion of other countries because they are looking for trade,
they're looking for tourism, and Saudi Arabia made some big
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steps toward tourism. A few years ago. They said women can.
There was a lot of changes with the way they
were treating women. And it's funny because my daughter literally
was just learning about this in social studies that they've
really been trying to bring tourists into their country, but
Americans and people in the Western world look at the
culture and say, I don't know, am I safe there?
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Should I bring my daughters there? Should I bring my
wife there? And that is kind of the gem of
Israel in the Middle East, because Israel is very much
a progressive nation. You go there and it is very
much like any city that you would see in the
United States. It's very free and very loving, and you're
very safe and people are very equal. That's not what
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we see in other countries in the Middle East. But
I think some of those countries are trying to trend
that way, and I wonder if that's why they've kind
of come to the support of Israel, saying, look, as
a world, we have to be able to have trade,
we have to be able to visit one another's countries.
And that hasn't historically been the way it's been for
the Western world. Going into the Middle East. It's kind
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of been like, we're gonna wave off of that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, the verse that comes to mind as you're talking
is in Hebrew yeshuatashemkarifying redemption from the Lord can come
in the blink of an eye. We never would have
thought that we would have peace deals with all these
different Arab countries, even with Jordan, the country Jordan right
next to Israel shooting down Iranian missiles in order to
protect Israel, also to protect themselves, but standing on the
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side with those Western allies like you say, I think
there's a lot of reasons for it, from tourism to
trade to the mutual threat of Iran. What Iran is
trying to do is take over the world with radical Islam,
and the moderate Arab countries recognize that as a threat
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just as much as Israel does. Interesting and so what
we're seeing is new bombs forming. Like you said, in Israel,
women could dress however they want. You go to Israel,
you feel like you're in the middle of I don't
know North Carolina or Florida or any of America's best cities,
that there's freedom. Something that many people don't know is
at in Israel. We have a twenty percent minority population,
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which is mostly Bedouin Drew's Muslim, and you see them everywhere.
They're completely integrated into society, the doctors at the hospital,
to the pharmacists, to the people in the kanesse, the
government workers and representatives that Israel is a free society,
and what we realize is there are evil forces that
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find that as a threat. But it's the same evil
forces that find America threat, that find Europe a threat.
And as they say, Israel's a little Satan, America is
a big Satan. First they go for the Saturday people,
then they go for the sun Lead people.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right. Well, if you take a look at the history
of Iran, I think that's also very interesting in this
context because just a generation ago there were also women
who were able to wear whatever they wanted. It was
a much freer country. And so when you talk about
the fear of radical Islam taking over, and this is
being celebrated by Iran right now, let us be honest.
(13:10):
There have been news reports that Iran has come out
and said, hey, we are happy to see these protests
on college campuses, and we've seen all of the signs,
the posters they're holding up, they are all the same
across college campuses. There is someone funding this. They are
glad to see their propaganda being spread across the United States.
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And it is a very different Radical Islam is unlike
any other culture, right, it's a very different culture and
it's not welcomed in many areas of the world, as
you said, for when you look at the other parts
of the Middle East, they're not looking to be radicals,
they're not looking to be extremists, and so they don't
like the idea of Iran celebrating extremism.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But it happened so quickly there.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It was overnight that they threw out the ruler of
On and he fled in the night, and then all
of a sudden all the freedoms were taken away and
the people there live very oppressed.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, I think that everything that we're talking about here
points to the same to the same point that we
need to recognize evil. And as people of faith, we
are so often looking to the scriptures of turn the
other cheek or love your neighbor, and we want to
love everyone and give them the benefit of the doubt
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and be there to help them and believe that everyone
just wants a good life and cherishes life, and if
they're given opportunity, they'll be able to develop that. And
what I look at is another biblical scripture that says
vashems Noura, lovers of the Lord, despise evil. That God
tells us when there's evil in your midst you are
commanded to despise it. And so what I really think
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is that in the news we are seeing the radicals.
We are seeing the people who are screaming the loudness,
doing the mo most repulsive things, and they don't represent
most Americans. There are polls after polls showing that Americans
stand with Israel, that they recognize Israel is aligned with
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their values, that these protesters are not. But they're not
getting the voice, They're not getting the representation. And that's
exactly what International Fellowship and Christians and Jews does. We
gather hundreds of thousands of Americans who say, I am
no longer relying on my government represent me when it
comes to Israel. I am no longer relying on the
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un represent me when it comes to Israel. I want
my voice heard. And so by having hundreds of thousands
of people to come together through the Fellowship, we are
the voice of Edna from Nebraska who otherwise wouldn't be
able to have a voice. And here in Israel we
go and we say, they might sound like everyone's against Israel.
It might sound like these college protesters represent the main
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stace stream America.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
But they don't.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
This food box from EDNA in Nebraska is what represents
the mainstream Americans. This bomb shelter that's saving lives as
I Ran tries to attack and kill Israeli's this bomb
shelter donated by Chris and North Carolina. This is what
represents Americans. And so I think that grassroots choice that
the Fellowship represents is more important than ever.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That grossroots voice is also education and letting people know
exactly what has happened in the past and what is
happening now. And I think right now there's a lot
of confusion. We've talked quite a bit about what the
students are getting pulled into on college campuses, and we
don't actually even know how many students this is because
as they're pulling some of these people out of here,
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we're finding out that these are people in their forties
that aren't college students, that aren't any have no affiliation
with the universities, but they're pulling these people in. How
well funded do you think this effort is against from
the research that you guys do and the protection that
you do for Christians and Jews. When you kind of
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dig into what's happening in the United States right now,
How did this happen overnight? Has this been a plan,
has this been funded by someone?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, I think anti Semitism looks different in every generation,
and never do they come out and say we're anti Semis.
There's always a reason. There were the blood libels against
the Jews for many generations, and they said the Jewish
people are taking all the jobs or the Jewish people.
There were always different reasons from the Nazis to the
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Communists to the Spanish Inquisition of why the Jews are
bad for that country. And so today we see Zionism.
That's what's become. That they're not saying the Jews, they're
saying Zionism, They're saying Israel. But we all know that
that is the same anti Semitism that we've seen throughout
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history that just looks different in every generation, but leads
to the same outcome, and that's violence, and that's killing,
and that's the Jewish people feeling threatened and actually being
threatened in many situations. And so I'll tell you what
looks different today to me than any time in the
past are two things. Number One, that the Jewish people
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have somewhere to protect them and that's Israel. There's one
Jewish country in the entire world. And as I see
the anti Semitism around the world rise, it to me
just builds a stronger case of why we need Israel.
And the second thing is that we have millions. Johnny Moore,
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Reverend Johnny Moore, who sits on my board, who's a
Christian leader, he says that there are seven hundred million
Christians around the world, from China to Korea, to South
America to North America. Seven hundred million Christians around the
world who stand with Israel and pray for Israel. And
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then we've all learned the stories of the Corey ten
Boons or the Oskar schin Learns during the Holocaust who
risked their life to save the Jews. But today what
we're seeing is the movement that we've never seen before
of Christians standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel, with the
Jewish people and saying, never again will you be alone,
even when we are at risk for saying.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That, Well, when you go after the Zionists, I guess
you're going after the Christians and the Jews. And so
this is a larger attack, which means there is more
there are more people on the other side to protect.
I want to talk about the Holocaust for a minute,
because I do think that we learn it when we're kids.
We learn about it, but it is hard to emotionally
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connect because it seems like something barbaric that happened decades ago.
You know, you can't even really connect to it. And
I will say that I've told the story before on
the podcast. It was probably twenty eighteen and we were
doing a little docuseries on Holocaust survivors and I went
to South Florida and we were interviewing people and I
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went into this couple's home and both the husband and
wife had been in concentration camps. The wife didn't speak
the entire time. The husband told us all of the stories,
and she sat there and she just seemed very standoffish.
And the only thing I will say is as I
walked out the door, she reached out and she grabbed
my arm and she looked at me and she said,
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they hate the Jews. They've always hated the Jews, and
they'll do it again. And I remember at the time
thinking and I felt guilty about this, and I think
about it a lot these days. That was so long ago.
Everybody has learned it will never happen again.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I just thought, like, no one would ever do that today.
But I don't think we realized, and I don't know
that we teach enough how hated the Jewish community is
and how hated the Christians are as well. It's like,
it's not just like you said. The evil is very
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strong and it is powerful, this mind control that they
have over young people. I mean, I think it's shocking
when I see these young people saying death to America
and kill all the Jews. I'm like, wow, I can't
believe how quickly this took cold. But I think of
that woman, and I'm like, she lived it. Why didn't
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it strike me that she knows better than I do.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's such a good point that I think all of
us feel. I'm the granddaughter of Holocaust survivor. My grandfather
all of his family, he was born in Germany, they
were all burned in the ovens of Outwitz. Only his
core family survived, and they adopted one cousin because it
was the only remaining survivor of their entire extended family,
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and that cousin's parents and siblings were all killed. I
was raised on that. My father in law is a
Holocaust survivor. He's at our house every weekend, and every
weekend he tells my children the stories of the Holocaust
and our member that many years ago. I said, okay,
I said him, with this is too much. They don't
need to hear this all the time. We're in different
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days today, it's different than it was in the nineteen thirties.
They don't need to be scared about this. And he
looked at me and he said, you think it's different, Well,
then we've learned nothing. And that was so. It's like
your experience of seeing that woman who said, you know,
it could happen again, and a part of you said,
she's being hysterical. It can't happen again. I understand it
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happened to you, but that was different. That was in Germany.
That was so long ago. We're more educated. We're all
about freedom, we respect diversity. There are laws in place,
are social norms in place, and you know what, that's
all true. But as we've seen throughout history, that applies
to everyone but the Jews and today the Christians as well.
In many ways, the Nazis, they cared about animal cruelty
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and the environment, but they had no problem burning six
million Jews and ovens. And so we have to differentiate
between society becoming more advanced, more liberal, more aware of
diversity and the importance of seeing and affecting the other,
but always realize to learn from history so that it
doesn't repeat itself. Jews and now Christians who are standing
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with the Jews are always, for whatever reason, looked at
as different than a people who deserve freedom.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
So the fellowship, how do you know who needs help?
How do you find these people? How do you make
sure you're taking care of the right people.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's a great question because I think nonprofits have a
responsibility even more than companies who are giving their charity
and anyone else to make sure that every penny is
going to where it's most needed. And so, because we're
the largest philanthropic organization in Israel, because we represent millions
of Christians around the world, we work very closely with
the government of Israel. So everyone who receives the aid
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we work with through the Welfare Department of Israel, we
build the criteria elderly Haliquest survivors over eighty years old
living only on their pension. In Israel, pension is around
five hundred dollars a month. And so imagine living in
any you know, any city in America on five hundred
dollars a month. Except for housing, in Israel's around one
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hundred percent more expensive. Cars are taxed one hundred percent.
Food is more expensive because we have to pay for
all of our military in order to make sure that
we're here tomorrow. So everything's very extensive in Israel, and
pensions are very low, and so the Fellowships creates the
criteria to know who's hungry and really means this food.
And we actually work with volunteers and local municipal social
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workers to distribute the aid. So last year we helped
over two million people in needs. Wow, with the staff
of one hundred and twenty five people.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Amazing, That is so impressive. Well, and that's why I
want people to understand that their support is going to
a good place. And we've been talking about the Fellowship
and we've been asking for support, and so today if
they're supporting, I mean I know that you know, a
few years back, it was mostly about making sure people
had the food and the supplies that they need.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Has it changed a little bit since the attacks.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, there are two different areas that the aid is
so desperately needed right now. One is for the food.
We continue to help Jews both in Israel and across Ukraine.
There are still Holocaust survivors in Ukraine that within all
of the bombing and all of the war, they are
completely alone, completely forgotten that we have volunteers there on
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the ground in the war zone of Ukraine bringing them
food boxes and telling them from Christians in America and
especially for the Holocaust survivors, a message that it sents Christians.
We go to the middle of a war zone to
provide Jewish elderly with food is something that despite the
darkness of the world, there's so much light and so
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in Israel we also are of course providing food aid,
food boxes, meals on wheels to those who need it.
And we're also very very focused on this verse comfort
comfort my people, by providing the bomb shelters, by providing
all different security vehicles like bulletproof ambulances that are so
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desperately needed, and saving lives every day. We see what's
needed and we implement the programs. We've distributed over five
thousand bulletproof helmets and black jackets to first responders on
the front lines. That it's daily that I get messages
from people who say, You're program saved my life. The
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fact that whow distributed this ambulance, this flacket, the bomb
shelter saved my life. And there's no greater reward than that.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And so I think it's important for people who are
listening because as we've been talking about supporting the Fellowship
and getting that support out there, and they've been wondering, Okay, well,
what exactly is it doing. These people know that it
came from Americans who care and love them.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes, yes, on every bomb shelter, it's very important to
us that it says donated with the love from people
in America. And so when imagine that that you go
into the bomb shelter. May you never know that situation,
but you have to rush into the bomb shelter with
your children, with your family members, maybe your elderly parents,
and you know that there are rockets on the way,
and you open up the radio and you suddenly hear
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the EU against you, the UN against you, the Arab
Union against you, even sometimes America calling for restraint and
that you don't have right to protect yourself as rockets
around the way, and then you look on the wall
as you're feeling so alone, so abandoned, and you see, oh, bat,
there are Christians, Jews, Americans have donated the shelter for me,
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that they're praying for me right now. We're not alone
and so having that plaque, having that message is critical
to all of our projects because it's not just the
life saving aid, it's the message that goes with it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Definitely not alone, and it is so nice to know
that us feeling that way, that we're actually able to
put our resources into that message that is received in Israel.
That means so much, and I'm so glad that you
came on today to talk about it again. For people
who want to help, it's support IFCJ dot org. Right,
that's where they go. Wonderful. Please make sure you do that.
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You've heard today how important this is. You've heard what
it's like to live over there, so much different than
what we know here in the United States. If you're
listening from the United States, so support IFCJ dot org.
Please any donation you can make is going to help
people before I let you go really quickly.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You have your own podcast, don't you, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I mean it's been such a joy listening to you. Honestly,
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm learning so much and
I just feel like people should.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Know that they have the opportunity to learn more from you.
So could you please share that with us as well?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Thank you so much. So. Nourish your Biblical Roots is
my podcast that you can find on all podcast platforms,
and it includes different Bible studies, different thoughts on life
in Israel and around the world, and different really fascinating
interviews with Israeli leaders, Christian leaders from Prime Minister of
Israel to Christian pastors in America, just to get different
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perspectives on their worldview and help retains to Israel. And
you can follow me on all social media platforms where
I document my life in Israel, Yeah LSD and on Facebook, Instagram,
on LinkedIn that you'll feel a lot closer to the
Holy Land.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, it's been such a joy to talk to you,
and I think you have such a light about you
the way you talk about this. I mean, it's such
a dark subject and yet every time you brought it
back to and there's so much joy and there's so
much light. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, it's been wonderful having you on.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much, so wonderful
speaking to you, and kiss those four girls from me.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes, and you take care of that daughter. I can't
imagine how stressful it must be for you. So we
will be praying for your family. Thank you so much,
and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go to Tutor
dixonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe right there, or head
over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
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get your podcasts and join us next time on the
Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Have a blessed
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