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March 26, 2025 42 mins

Dan wonders where Cam Ward would rank if he had come out in last year's quarterback class. With Russell Wilson signing with the Giants, all eyes turn towards the Pittsburgh Steelers and their starting QB. Inside the NBA’s Ernie Johnson drops by to talk about his bracket, the seasons so far in the NBA and college basketball, and tales from the set of Inside the NBA.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's our two on this Wednesday. The great
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(00:22):
cards for the Dan Patrick Show. I had a conversation
yesterday with somebody. Now in the first hour, I mentioned
I have a source and I was trying to get
information about the Cleveland Browns, and either he didn't know
or he wasn't going to spill anything, because I said,
what are you doing with the number two pick? Now
that Russ is signed with the Giant. In fact, when
I was talking to him, I said what about Russ

(00:45):
And he goes, well, you just signed with the Giants.
I go, okay, so he's not going to the Cleveland Browns.
This is during the phone call. Then I go, okay,
what are you doing. You're going to take Abdull Carter?
You got to put him with Miles Garrett. Would you
take you to Sanders. But Dion let his son go
to Cleveland. Boy, it makes a lot of sense if
Cleveland really likes Shador Sanders. Now, all of a sudden,

(01:07):
a rookie contract for your quarterback, and it eases the
financial pain of what you stupidly paid to Shaun Watson.
He wasn't given me anything. I said, what about Kirk
Cousins after the draft? Would you take Kirk Cousins? Maybe, Well,
he'd have to be healthy and it would cost us
a draft pick, all right, couldn't get anything crickets. And

(01:29):
then you look what the Giants are doing with Russ
and Jameis Winston. Are they going to still take Shador Sanders?
You know, I went the first hour without mentioning the
Aaron Rodgers part of the equation. But it is real.
It's either Pittsburgh or retirement. That's what it feels like.

(01:50):
And I thought it was Minnesota or retirement. But he
did go there for six hours last Fridays. Everybody knows
and what is he waiting for now? If he doesn't
want to give an answer till after the draft and
the Steelers are fine with that, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Like it is my job to cover it do. I
wish it happen sooner.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, content, But if it's his time frame and the
Steelers time frame and they're fine with both of that,
you know parts of the equation, then I am I'm
going all right, who cares? You know, a member of
the media whining about something. All Right, I'll survive. But
you do want to be ahead of the game kind
of figure out. Okay, if he goes there, what's it mean?

(02:33):
How long is he going to go there for? Would
they still take a quarterback in the draft? You know,
so there's a lot of different things in there. Cam Ward,
it feels like he has cemented himself as the number
one overall pick. I'm guessing Tennessee does take him. I
thought the Giants would try to move up. Cleveland probably
doesn't want to move up. They'll be fine at too.
They need help, and you could get Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter,

(02:56):
and if you truly loved Shudoor Sanders, you take him.
But you start to look at these quarterbacks and we
pump them up because they're the next wave of quarterbacks.
And I was curious when we had Matt Miller, the
great draft expert for the Mothership on recently, I said,
where would cam Ward be with last year's quarterback clans?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
If we were talking about last year's drafts, cam Ward
would have been the sixth or seventh guy drafted, probably
at quarterback, not overall at quarterback. And that might still
make you a top ten pick, right because those guys
flew up the board last year. But I do think
he's being elevated. It is interesting both quarterbacks Sanders and Ward,
they have some bad habits that are going to need
coached out of them. Cam Ward's kind of get dismissed

(03:44):
because he has a strong arm.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So that's Matt Miller, draft analyst for the Mothership of
where these quarterbacks would be. I think that's the general
consensus is cam Ward would be after bo Nicks. JJ
McCarthy is still, you know, front and center for the
Minnesota Vikings, and he was asked one whether or not
he's the starting quarterback in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
We as a fan base or even media found out, like,
you're the guy, the the guy recently?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
When did you know? When did they tell you or
when does that message to you?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
They haven't told men. I'm happy they didn't because I
try to earn it every single day, and I never
want that to be given to me, and it's such
a privileged and opportunity to give that give me that chance,
and I'm just going to make the most of it
every single day.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
All right.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's with Kay Adams up in Adams JJ McCarthy. Look,
it might be fake humility, but it's going over well
in Minnesota. So you're looking at Aaron Rodgers and saying,
I guess it's Pittsburgh. When is it going to be Pittsburgh?
And what do they do in the draft, because I
don't know if you say, hey, we're going to bring
in Aaron, but by the way, we're going to use
our first round. You imagine if they use a first

(04:52):
round draft pick, I think the twenty first overall pick
on Jackson dark So he would be with a team
that uses their first round pick on another quarterback. Now
do I think it makes sense for Pittsburgh If you
really think Jackson Dart can play, then it makes sense.
I didn't know it if it made sense in Green
Bay at the time, I didn't think it made sense

(05:15):
because Aaron was playing well. He went on his revenge tour.
You've never gotten in a wide receiver in the first round,
and now did it turn out to be the correct call? Yes,
Green Bay makes a lot of correct calls. But at
the time I thought, and even when we had Rogers
on after the draft, I think that's when he decided
that he was going to have a larger glass at tequila.

(05:37):
After he realized that Jordan Love the Packers have selected
quarterback Jordan Love, give me a little bit more tequila
in there?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
All right?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Poll question? By the way, good morning.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, we say
good morning to our radio affiliates. What's the poll question
for hour two? I can't believe there's this.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Much support for Jameis Winston, but that better pregame speech
guy on the Giants right now, Jameis Winston still has
ninety percent of that vote.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, odd that we came up with that, But we
did think about who's going to motivate you in that
Giants locker room when you get ready to go out
and face the Eagles. Is it Jamis Winston or Russell Wilson.
Let's ride p giant.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We're putting up there right now.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
Question Paully sent over if you could put one into
place A hard salary cap and baseball or a return
to the old transfer system in college sports.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
M Well, it's a little heavy. That's just what we do.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, un exactly lighthearted sports radio conversation.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I went our one.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
You can't get much more lighthearted than Jamis Winston v.
Russell Wilson. I mean, so Russ goes to the Giants.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, the Patriots got Stefan Diggs, which is the
Patriots have had a sneaky good offseason. They have the
fourth pick in the draft. Worst case scenario, they end
up with Travis Hunter Abdul Carter. That's not a bad
consolation prize. You feel like you do have your quarterback.
They had a whole lot of money to spend. They

(07:08):
had salary cap money, and Drake may I thought, did
a for a team that had nothing on offense. He
made something with that team and they have added some
pieces offensive lineman, defensive lineman. Now you have the fourth
pick in the draft. Stefan Diggs was on his way

(07:28):
to the Hall of Fame. He may still be on
his way to the Hall of Fame. But I just
wonder about you know, when you he wasn't healthy, got
banged up in Houston. You know whatever happened in Buffalo
where you know he ended up in Houston. Now you
end up in New England, still coming off surgery. But

(07:51):
if you look at what he did in Buffalo, here's
the most one hundred plus catch seasons in the first
nine years of a career. Antonio Brown in six of
his first nine years had over one hundred catches with Pittsburgh.
Stefan Diggs has had five, Brandon Marshall had five, Wes

(08:12):
Welker had five, DeVante Adams for DeAndre Hopkins four, Marvin
Harrison four and Keenan Allen four.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
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Speaker 9 (08:27):
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Speaker 2 (08:32):
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Speaker 1 (08:33):
The official trading cards of the DP show Antonio Brown
was going to the Hall of Fame. I don't think
anybody had more catches over a five year window than
he did. But he had six seasons. And look, I
think when he got knocked out concussed by Vontez perfect,
I think it seemed to change him. And I think

(08:58):
we've seen and Tonio Brown is not a normal person.
I don't know what that hit did to him. In
my opinion, I always thought it just he seemed different
after that.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
But I didn't know him.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I think we've had him on once or twice, maybe
at the Super Bowl one time. Charismatic dude. But times
have changed though. You know when he freaked out, you know,
left the building during a game. Stefan Diggs is you know,
he was in Minnesota. He wanted to have and get paid,
have his moment, got it in Buffalo, and then all

(09:33):
of a sudden, Buffalo seemed to be better, you know,
by you know, getting rid of Stefan Diggs. It's hard
to say that about a Hall of Fame where you go,
you know, the team got better because they got rid
of a Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver. I don't
know if any of these receivers are going to the
Hall of Fame. Antonio Brown, Stefan Diggs, Brandon Marshall, Wes Wilker,

(09:56):
DeVante Adams is probably going to the Hall of Fame.
DeAndre Hopkins, Marvin Harrison is already a Hall of Famer.
I don't know if catches matter, Yeah, but I haven't
been in the voting room or Peter King's the only
one I've really talked about what goes on in there
and what they factor in, and I don't know if

(10:18):
it's fluid when they start to look at Hall of famers.
Are you looking at the same thing now with wide
receivers as you did five years ago? What about ten
years ago? I remember when it was man, if you
get to a thousand catches, it was like ten thousand
yards for a running back. I don't think it's the
case in either situation. Now are we going to have?

(10:42):
How many running backs? Are Christian McCaffrey's not going to
the Hall of Fame, he said, I don't think so.
Dereck Henry going to the Hall of Fame. I don't
know if there's any other running back that is playing now,
Like Saquon Barkley need to have three or four more

(11:02):
great seasons, but he certainly got back on track in
a big way. And you're playing in Philadelphia behind that
offensive line with all those weapons. He could end up,
you know, four or five fifteen hundred yard seasons, win
a Super Bowl two thousand yards, then you'd be a
Hall of Famer. But yeah, I start to look at
these numbers and you go, I don't know what matters anymore,

(11:26):
because for a long long time, it felt like the
running game was the short passing game, that we don't
need a running back, we just need a running back
who can block and also catch passes. Now, all of
a sudden, we got a couple of running backs who
were getting fifteen, eighteen, two thousand yards, and now it's
kind of back in vogue, and Ashton Genty could be
one of those running backs who comes in and plays

(11:48):
right away. When you get a comp of Emmitt Smith
by one draft analyst, So when somebody says Ashton Genty,
they go, Emmitt Smith with speed.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Whoh I draft him?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Now? I voted for him for the Heisman, but you
can't go wrong with who won. But in my mind,
Ashton gent what he did? You know, he led his
team then you know, ended up finished runner up and
he'll probably be the seventh pick overall.

Speaker 10 (12:22):
Yeah, Pauline, Yeah, If you look at the all time
rushing leaders, active players on the list are Derrick Henry, Ezekiel.
Elliott's got nine thousand yards, but he's it was all
done in his.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
First four years.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah he's not.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Nope.

Speaker 10 (12:34):
Joe Mixon is an all purpose back Saquan's at seven
thousand yards, but he's more all purpose yardage. Aaron Jones,
Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs is having.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
A very good career. Yeah, it's early.

Speaker 10 (12:45):
Going back to Antonio Brown, he had a six year
window where he had seven hundred catches in six years,
all made the Pro Bowl every single time, and had
four First team All pros. If he didn't implode and
left the sport due to injury, would he get the
Hall of Fame Hall pass?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, let's say he had seven years that he played
in the NFL, or even six. You know, we do
have precedent here. You have Terrell Davis. Now we would
always bring up Gail Sears, but Terrell Davis's modern day.
You know, injury cut short his career. If Antonio Brown
had an injury that cut short his career, then maybe

(13:28):
you're not supposed to factor in anything other than what
you do on the football field. The voters are told
that other sports they do factor in who you are,
But I also have to factor in how you were
as a teammate. That's the only other aspect with this
that I can look at your performance. I also have
to look at you give and then you take away

(13:50):
and that's going to hurt him. It's like Tara Owens
to me, was a first ballot Hall of Famer, but
he didn't get in first ballot.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
What second or third time.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Mar Michael Irvin, you know, to me, first maun Hall
of Famer, but off the field, and they're not supposed
to be factoring that in.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Will they factor that in with Antonio Brown?

Speaker 6 (14:13):
They will?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
And not that Stefan Diggs is in the Antonio Brown
category of disruptive. But it didn't go well in Buffalo
at the end. I mean, Houston just didn't work out.
You thought with you know, those two young receivers there
and you bring in Stephan Diggs with that quarterback and wow,
all right, you guys can challenge for the AFC title.

Speaker 11 (14:35):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, And I think Stephan Diggs might be
in the Tiki Barber category. Say, if the Buffalo Bills
win a Super Bowl and they win without him, that's
gonna hurt his chances. I think that's what hurts Tiki Barbie.
If he stays another year and they win a Super
Bowl with him as a big contributor, I think his
Hall of Fame case is way stronger than it is now.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Look at that, Marvin is hijacking Paul's Tiki Barber.

Speaker 11 (15:00):
I've owned that for a decade. At the end, Tiki
Barber was as good as any running back.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
But I think I.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
Got the point.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Mark, Yeah, easy, he got easy. You're piling on, piling on.

Speaker 8 (15:08):
I want to get some eighty five bears talking them.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Mark, pauliar Dan is the great.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Paulie thinks more highly of Tiki Barber's Hall of Fame
chances than Tiki Barber does.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
I think.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean, like, what do you think, Tikki? I don't know, Paulie,
what do you think?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, do you know what he did in the last
five years and fifteen hundred number of catchers. There's nobody
else in America who talks about Tiki Barber's career.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Maybe for a reason, we.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can't even get Tiki Barber on to talk about Tiki
Barber's career. He's probably like, no, I don't want to
do that. All right, let me take a break, all right, Ernie,
I gotta clean up my act. I got a professional
broadcaster here coming up.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's my hair.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Look.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Shouldn't have worn this sweatshirt with Ernie'll probably have a
bow tie on, you know, be all professorial.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh oh, look at that Ernesto. He looks sloppy, just
like me.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, I love it all right, we'll take a break
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Speaker 1 (17:21):
Coming up in twenty minutes. Synchronize our watchers. We play
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third who joins us on the program. Great to have
you back, Ernie.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
If I had a tail, it'd be Wagon Day.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
You know, when you look at the different jobs that
you have now you still get to work with Chuck,
but when you do March maddness, compare that to working
the NBA show.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Think the biggest difference is Clark Kellogg, who is He's
so tied into the college game. He's a guy you
just lean on like crazy because for us, you know,
it's we pay attention to the college game, but our
focus is the NBA. So you really need to have

(18:21):
a guy like Clark or Seth Davis in the Atlanta
studio or Jay Wright somebody like that. So that's been
the biggest difference. But I think just in the terms
of the vibe and how we do the show, I
think it took a little while, but you know, the CBS,

(18:41):
with their you know, with the way they do things,
they kind of said, Okay, yeah, you guys can you
guys can do this. You know, you guys can be
your NBA kind of guys and do your show that way.
And that started, I mean the first year, you know,
they wanted the guys in for a for a production
meeting two hours before we went on the air, and

(19:02):
Chucks hadvice that's that's a hard no. And so so
once we got through that adjustment period that you know,
we pretty much we pretty much do our.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Thing, but you have situations and you had it recently
with Charles that he might not be watching what he's
supposed to watch, and then you have to correct him.
I don't know how college basketball fans react to that,
whereas NBA fans like, we kind of expect Chuck to
go this game sucks, but with college basketball march madness

(19:36):
can't exactly get away with that.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Oh we're able to get away with it because we
still had Kenny and Clark there who could cover that game.
It's not like, not like we were going to ignore it,
but it was. What was funny is that he looked
down like he was going to really say something, like
he had made a couple of notes and then realized
he hadn't watched any of it. It's like it was

(20:00):
like a couple of years ago. Chuck has always taken
great bride and his Oscar picks and says, you know,
he never misses Juan And so we were talking about
Best Picture, and nineteen eighteen was up for Best Picture,
and so we're talking about it, and he says, I
think the best picture is going to be nineteen eighteen.

(20:21):
I said, well, tell me about it. He said, we
know it's your basic you know what, I haven't seen it.
So yeah, So moments like that, you're kind of you've
kind of come to expect.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
When did you realize though, that this was different? With
how social media was viewing you guys and the clips
that are played over and over, like there's a seismic shift.
When I did Sports Center, you watched Sports Center. Now
people don't watch Sports Center as much as they'll take
clips and watch them on social media. How did that

(20:55):
affect how you guys did TNT.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
I don't know if it had a great effect. I
know it made it more accessible for folks who didn't
want to stay up till one thirty or two o'clock
in the morning and watch the show, even though sometimes
it would be replayed on NBA TV in the morning.
But I mean, that's the world we live in. I
mean that was and you're you and I are both

(21:19):
old enough to remember DT that you know, and there
may have been times where you had a you did
a show and you didn't know exactly how it was
received or if people thought something was funny, and the
only way you knew was if Rudy Marsky wrote about
it on Monday. You know, it was like, and now

(21:41):
everything is so instantaneous. It's like you throw a line
out there and all of a sudden you're getting skewered
or you're getting praised, and yeah, it's just a different world.
But you you don't do it for the you know,
how many likes you get or anything like that. You're
just doing your job and that's how we that's how
we do ours.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I'm glad that we didn't have social media. I just
because we did it without knowing. As you said, if
anybody's what, I didn't know ratings, We didn't know anything,
huh huh. And I remember the first time I found
out that we might be not have a following or
be popular is I went to the SP's and all

(22:19):
of a sudden, you run into Jerry Seinfeld and you
run into Bill Murray and they're reciting lines back to you,
and I'm like, I'll be damn, there are people actually
watching this show.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about.
And I was, I was so you know my story
along that Vein is being out in LA for a
playoff game, and walked away shaking my head because Denzel
Washington knew who I was. He's like, I watch you

(22:52):
guys all the time. I was like, really, that's amazing. Yeah.
So there were those moments that that kind of shop
and grab you, and it's like, I guess we do
have a lot of folks who are who were watching
the show.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Is Ernie Johnson, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports Studio host
inside the NBA State of College Sports. I know that
nil transfer portal is a topic of conversation. Where do
you stand with this?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
I think that I think we all agreed that something
had to be done and that and that there had
to be a way that the college athletes who were
who were making all this money for these schools needed
to be compensated one, you know, some way. But then
it just it just went from hey, this that's a

(23:40):
good idea to all right, whatever you want, and it
was like a zero to sixty, zero to one hundred
and and so that's how I kind of look at
it is that, yeah, we we all kind of agreed,
But then are there should there be some limitations? Should
or is this going to just price up the smaller

(24:02):
schools out because they don't they can't lure anybody into
their into their places. So yeah, I think I think
just in that regard that yeah, we're we just kind
of let it happen without without any regulation. And then
and and the transfer portal is I would not want

(24:25):
to be a coach, and I can certainly see where
where guys like Tony Bennett and Jay Wright and others
have said, you know, it's enough of this. You know,
I'm gonna work my ass off and recruit this kid
and he's gonna come to my place. And now I've
got to keep recruiting him as he's in my program,

(24:46):
because he's just gonna leave, you know, if he's not
getting the run that he wants or whatever. So no,
it's it's it's changed everything dramatic Lee, for sure. And
and it's always strange to look down as I'm you know,
I'm doing my numbers and my rosters and that kind

(25:08):
of thing when I'm getting ready in the months leading
up to the say wow, this kid's been in Kyle,
this guy's been this is the sixth season, you know,
And so yeah, that's that's kind of been the amazing
part to me.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Did you fill out a bracket?

Speaker 6 (25:23):
I did, and it's really good. Oh it's really good.
I think I could have it right here. I've been
in New York. I've got a two week I got
a two weeks stay in New York for this. I
did not go back to Atlanta and then come back

(25:44):
in between the rounds because all I'm doing is basically
working on the show. So okay, this is really good
for your show that I'm rifling through here.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, it's good radio.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six. Okay, I
got ten of the sixteen Sweet sixteen, seven out of
eight Elite eight and entire final four still, which is
not bad in my in my opinion, I've got I've

(26:27):
got Florida beating uh, Michigan State and Duke beating Tennessee
in the final four. How about you let that meat?
Does that meet with your approval?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah? But why don't you let me pat you on
the back? Not you pat yourself on the back that.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
I think that's a great idea. I don't know what.
I don't know what came over.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Like, do you have sports Emmys that you pack with
you when you go to New York for you know,
just so you can be unfamiliar surroundings, just.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
A just a few of them.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
It's you know what, you know what's bad. It's like
packing for for eight shows and two weeks up here,
So I like I've been living in this all star hoodie.
The whole the whole time in New York. So you
didn't really expect me to get up and put a
bow tie on.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
No, I'm glad you didn't because I had a sweatshirt
on it and I go, oh my god, I got
Ernie Johnson on.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
I live in these I would if I didn't have
to get dressed up. This would be me all the time.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Why don't you do a casual broadcast one day?

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Mmmm?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
You guys get to do whatever you want.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Why why should we do a casual brook Why not?
We have certain standards?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh you do, okay?

Speaker 6 (27:49):
You know what the guys, the other guys are casual sometimes.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, Charles is always making fun of Anthony Davis. You know,
street clothes, So why don't you guys have a street
clothes show?

Speaker 6 (28:01):
All right?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
And homage to Anthony Davis?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:04):
That, I don't know if it would come off as why.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
What's the biggest storyline the rest of the season to you?

Speaker 6 (28:14):
In the NBA? In the NBA, you know, I I
think things are kind of looking a little bit clear
cut as far as who's going to finish where and
who they're who they might play. I think my my
biggest question is is okay See ready for this? You know,

(28:35):
it's because obviously they have got a squad and s
g A is unbelievable. Now can you get over that
hump and get to that Western Conference final? And then
can you get to the NBA finals? So I think,
you know, is ok c ready for this, for this step?

(28:59):
Because we already know Boston's ready for that step? Is
Cleveland ready for that step? You know? Does a great
regular season translate? So those to me are the big
questions because I don't see a whole lot of other
folks who could win the title. You know, I can
see Boston in the finals. I could see Cleveland maybe

(29:20):
in the finals if they're you know, if they're at
home and if they get a break here and there.
But I you know, out West, it's okay See, And
I don't know if Houston's ready for that yet. It's
been fun watching them, but and you can't count Denver
out if you know, when Joker's healthy. But I think
the question, yeah, the question is is okay See ready

(29:41):
for this?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
When do you know when Barkley is truly upset?

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Truly upset?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, like mad don't.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
I don't know that I've ever really seen Chuck very
mad Chuck is you know, Chuck comes in every night
the same way. Hey, let's have some fun tonight, you know.
And so I haven't really seen him really hot. Yeah, Shack,

(30:13):
I've seen Shack get hot. You know. One night was
when we were going, you know, he got mad because
Chuck took all his time, and then he just kind
of clammed up and he didn't want to talk, he
didn't want to be part of the show. And and
and we've had we had a night where he was
late for a show, and and he and I kind

(30:35):
of talked, and I said, man, he got a beat. Man.
I left three hours ever the traffic was there. And
then and then the next day he didn't even talk
to me. It's like I would look at it. I
looked at him working with the show, and I'm asking
him a question and I'm getting three word answers, and
I finally just had to do in a commercial break,
just had to get up and give him a big
old hug and say, man, you know I love you.

(30:56):
You know that. You know I don't mean anything by that,
you know, And then and then he was okay. But yeah,
there have been a couple of times where he gets
he'll get a little sensitive. I don't know how mad
he'll get, but he'll clam up a little bit, and
then you're then you're pulling teeth.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's like you're a parent there.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
The way it's been best described dad is that I'm
the dad driving cross country with these three guys in
the back seat saying one more peep out of you,
and I'm turning this thing around.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Don't make me come back there.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Don't make me come back there. Well, who would make
you more nervous? Chuck or shake? I guess Shack, you know,
given the signs make.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
Me more nervous. What if I if I were to
pull that? Yeah, No, he's shaq Is. I have no
fear of Shack at all. Shack. Shack and I have
a special relationship. And he always says it dates back
to when I went and did a story on him
when he was at L s U and he was
living in San Antonio, and he's I remember that day
and night and when you can't and it really wasn't

(32:01):
it was nineteen ninety one. But but yeah, I think
I think that we, you know, we had a great
thing going with that bunch, you know, we really have
and so.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
And what do you what are you doing now? What
are you going to do?

Speaker 6 (32:19):
What am I going to do? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Are you following everybody?

Speaker 6 (32:24):
Yeah? That's I mean, this is the plan. This is
the plan. That's we're going to do. Continue to do
the show, okay, And but it's just not going to
air on TNT because the NBA on tn T is
no more after after these playoffs. But we'll still do
the show in Atlanta, Okay, It'll still do it with
the same production croup. It'll just air on ABC, Slash

(32:45):
ESPN on certain nights.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay, because I think it looked kind of shaky there
for a while that we didn't know what direction. You
probably were left out in the cold two on this.
But and then if it was moving out of Atlanta,
would you continue to do it?

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Me?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
No, that was a breaker.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
That's yeah, that's home and it's and so yeah, I
think look I can kind of see the finish line.
You know. It's I remember when Don maguire hired me
at Turner back in nineteen eighty nine, and he was
like May seven eight years in that studio chair. That's all.
You know, You're not gonna want it any more than that.

(33:28):
Now it's been thirty five and and so there are
a lot of things to do out there, and and
so I can't wait for next year, can't wait to
can't wait to stay with the guys. But and then
we'll just see for the years after that if you
know what comes up and what I what I feel
like doing.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Adam Lefko is listening intently on that that last dance leftgo.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Adam Leftko is great. Yeah, he's really really, really solid.
And so but it's not, no, do don't get this twisted.
It's not like I'm going to hang We're going to
hang up here and suddenly I have retired. No. You
know a lot of times when you're running a marathon

(34:14):
from you can see the finish line from a long
way away. Not that I have any marathon experience, so
it's not like I'm not like, I'm in this sprint
and the finish line is eight meters away, and it's
just that I can. When you get to this point,
it's like, all right, let's see how this is looking.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
They will survive without us, which is amazing, Ernie. They will, Yeah,
do you think the medium will continue?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I don't know, but I've been told, Hey, they'll survive
without you, So I'm going to take their word for it.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm done in three.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
Years, all right, So you've made the decision. Three years? Yes,
how old will you be in three years?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I will be seventy one?

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah, but seventy one in three years.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Why don't we go out together?

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Wouldn't that be nice? Right? Wouldn't that that would just
tug at the heart.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
But you go first, You go first, and then the
next day I'll do it. I'm going to retire I
think in Atlanta after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
All right, and.

Speaker 13 (35:23):
Well maybe we could do it at CNN Center where
you Yeah, you have some roots. Yeah, now we're talking. Yes,
it'll be emotional. Well, yes, yes, that'll be great. I'll
do another headline sports. You know, I'll do one more
for the road. Oh man, maybe we'd bring in van.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Or al right and get Earle to do a CNN
headline sports.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Or Phil van whatever happened to Phil van Horn by.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
The way, I think he became a baseball coach, maybe
in California, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, was my colleague and a friend of yours.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, yeah, Phil, then today, Yeah, I think he married
a song girl from USC.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
WO.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, you do a lot more than I. Well, I
keep up on the song girls at USC. I'm just
saying Phil has got it.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Phil is somewhere right now saying, oh, why are they
talking about me?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Good to talk to you, Have fun and thanks again. Ernie.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Always a pleasure, DP, Always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That's Ernie Johnson. He is the Turner Sports Award winning
studio host Hall of Fame. He'll be in studio coming up.
We got basketball coming up tomorrow tomorrow night. Take a break,
more phone calls coming up. We play in or out.
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six

(36:50):
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Always great to visit with Ernie Johnson. You know when
people say how such and such, I can say, Ernie
Johnson's one of the nicest people I've ever met in
my life and a wonderful, charitable person, husband, father, He
is always this is who he is. He's been this way,

(37:14):
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(37:35):
other and one's a former athlete, the other is a
famous entertainer. And he was talking about, you know, when
they went out they don't date anymore, but he said, yeah,
you know, I called her i'my and my friend goes, i'my.
He goes, yes. She could never start a conversation a

(37:59):
sentence without saying I or me. And his nickname was i'my.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
Wow, oh I know.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
No names, but uh I I can see it now.
But it didn't work out. You know, they went their
separate ways. Yeah, I me, We're going to go in
another direction here.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
So it's a little awkward too, because when your your
critique of that person is like you always talk about
I am me. Everything is about you, Like, can't we
talk about me once in a while, And you're like,
oh so you you want everything to be about you?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'my kind of win called her i'my. How about we
play in around.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
You're either in or you're out, Paul, what's the first
topic for in around?

Speaker 8 (38:44):
Just to recap, I'm going to make a statement.

Speaker 10 (38:46):
If you're in, you say in, and then subsequent Cooper
Flag should stay in college another year.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
I'll go last.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Tod h Man, I think he.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Should probably go all right, Marvin out out out, So
I guess that means I'm out.

Speaker 10 (39:08):
Sorry, Yeah, I mean I know he has to go
pro to get to the second contract, the super Max
and all the stuff. He did skip his senior year
of high school, right, so he's already well advanced. Imagine
if he did the opposite and stayed in college, it
would be so novel. He'd get truckloads of coverage. He'd
get bigger, stronger, and better as he entered the league,

(39:30):
and he'd actually be seen more by basketball fans playing
at Duke than he would with the Washington Wizards. No
one's watching the Wizards barely. If he gets there next year. Yeah,
I think it would be such a novel move in
this era's for him to do it, and he'd get
truckloads of cover.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Oh he would, But he'd get truckloads of money when
he gets to the that's the second contract in the NBA.

Speaker 8 (39:51):
What do you think he could asked for to stay
another year?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Ten million?

Speaker 8 (39:55):
That's that's about what the number one pick in the
draft makes.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Now, yeah, but that's why they go in early. So
you'll get into that second and third he's gonna have.
He's gonna make a billion dollars. Let's say he's he's
he's legitimate, and he's healthy. He'll get three MAX deals.
You get the rookie deal, then you get another deal.
And he's eighteen, so he's going to get two max deals.

(40:20):
He's going to make close to a billion dollars. But
it's all said and done, all right, what else do
we have?

Speaker 6 (40:24):
The interunt.

Speaker 10 (40:25):
I'm in favor of a much more stringent transfer system
in college sports.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
I'll go first.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I'm in shock er, Yeah, yeah, yeah, seatan.

Speaker 7 (40:38):
Much more stringent is a tough word. I'm okay with parameters,
but if given the choice between lock it all down
or wild West, I'll take wild West.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
All right, Marvin, I'm out here we go.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
I'm out.

Speaker 10 (40:51):
When I hear Stefan Diggs's name, I think future Hall
of Famer.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Oh uh I'm out. I'm out, pritty, I'm going to
say in on that, see out, Martin out. All right,
this one should be fun.

Speaker 10 (41:09):
Russell Wilson stay with the New York Giants will be
a positive experience for everyone involved.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Well, Todd out, Stan Marvin out. I'm in.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I'm gonna think that it can be a pleasant experience
for everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
They just won't make the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yees.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, I'm team Russ.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
Yeah I am.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I'm rooting for him.

Speaker 10 (41:33):
Absolutely, I think I'm in. Didn't the Steelers win ten
games last year? Didn't they sneak into the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
But justin Fields, Yeah, Joan.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Maybe ms team up.

Speaker 7 (41:45):
They were actually on their way to the playoffs and
something happened.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yes, indeed, two hours in the books, One more to go.
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