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November 29, 2024 40 mins

Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer in for Dan and the guys as they try again to figure out what went wrong with the Bears in the final seconds of their game on Thanksgiving against the Lions. Dan and Doug welcome FSR Betting Analyst Jared Smith onto the show to get you ready for your weekend of football wagering. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug and the crew through a game of "Price is Right".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Dan, did you have you were working yesterday? Did you
have generally good Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
It was. It was a nice Thanksgiving. We had a
fun time. We were we were in for your show
on Fox Sports Radio, and then Cavino and Rich, myself
and Aaron Torres. We had a friends giving, a lot
of people joining the show calling in, just chopping it
up and Matt Matt Eberflus ended up delivering the the
six legged Turkey no pun intended, but we were feasting

(00:50):
on that topic for much of the day.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
You know, it's interesting the the change in the Detroit
Lions and what's it's amazing about yesterday? And Dan and
I have both been doing radio for over twenty years,
so too is Jason Stewart, our producer. So we've been
doing this for a minute. And it doesn't mean that
doing it for a long time makes you automatically better,

(01:13):
but it should give you perspective. I should give you
real perspective, because that's like I don't love the all
the flashbacks because it doesn't necessarily relate. But I saw that, Dan,
you tweeted out yesterday about the Pontiac Silver Dome and
how many times we draw on Thanksgiving the Thanksgiving game
and it was Barry Sanders and you were just hoping

(01:33):
for a Barry moment because you knew the Lions weren't
very good. And in my twenty two years of doing
national radio, I would say at least ten, if not
fifteen years of it, there has been someone who came
into a studio on a day like today, Black Friday.

(01:56):
And remember I've worked for ESPN Radio for nine years,
for CBS Sports Radio for five years now, Fox Sports Trader.
This is going my eighth year. And there's always always
somebody who goes like why are the Lions on on Thanksgiving?
Like why why are we married to the Lions? They're
not any good? They're not a good watch. And you know,

(02:18):
first take in those undisputed those types of shows have
bantered around at times of years to go from that
to the Lions are actually the favorites and they're the
buttoned up team and it's the Bears that are the
the keystone cops. Right. That is a that is quite

(02:39):
the switch from all like the Bears have always been
the you know, if we only had a quarterback, right Like,
if you ask Bears fans like what has limited the
Bears since nineteen eighty five? You know, we've just never
had a question, sure, which just it's fair, Like they've
tried a million different things. They've actually gotten new Super

(03:00):
Bowl with Rex Grossman as their quarterback. That's one of
the all time amazing feats. But the point is that
I don't know what Caleb Williams looks like when this
thing settles down going to year two, year two, because
there are moments yesterday we're like, ah, he stinks, And
there are moments just day like you know what something there,
and then the end of game thing that makes you think,

(03:20):
like does he never played football? Is he concussed? What's
going on? But the reality is that all that may
be fair, but there's a lot more going on than
just quarterback. That led to yet another another close loss
for the Bears this year.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's first of all, just on your Thanksgiving point. The
Cowboys are the Cowboys. I've been one that have all
I've never wanted the Lions off of Thanksgiving. I want
them on every single year. I don't care if they're
twelve an hour zero to twelve. I want the Lions on.
So this was a bit of vindication these last couple
of years of having them on. I have never wanted

(04:02):
them off of my TV on Thanksgiving. I want them on.
I want them on in the first game. But they're
they're thank you very much, thank you. There was also
Doug you know, this counter programming, kind of like when
your NBA team stunk in your town, so they would say,
come watch Michael Jordan come to town, Come watch Kobe Bryant,
Lebron James and the Cavaliers are in town. Get your

(04:24):
tickets here, like that's your selling because of the opponents,
And that's what it had been for a while with
the Lions. It was more about the intriguing opponents that
were coming in. Hey, Peyton Manning and the Colts are
are here for a game. The Houston Texans and Deshaun
Watson and JJ Watt and their crew coming in like,
that's that's what you would get. And now because the

(04:47):
Lions are good, you don't even have to do that.
You gotta put them against the Jags. Yesterday I wouldn't
have cared, would have been great.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, it's it's really amazing. What Dan Campbell? What how
that that organization has been transformed? Uh, it's it's insane.
I gets you know what it is? The lines are
Brussels sprouts? Serious? I thought about this last night. Brussel sprouts?
Do you did your mom ever make Brussels sprouts when
you were a kid?

Speaker 6 (05:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
When? Why?

Speaker 6 (05:16):
I don't know, you're not irin right?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yeah, no, no, what's the deal? No?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I mean, no, profet, you can speak to this as well.
You have a culinary culinary a part to you.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
Yeah, my mom never made Brussels sprouts, but then I
I and I always avoided them because I just thought
it was disgusting.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
But I smell like a fart. That's that's well. I
think that's when they when they're when they're being steamed,
they smell like, well, that's you.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
That's the key I found. I saw tade them instead
of steaming that they were amazing of.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Course, right for like fifty years, everybody's like, well, we're
gonna have Irish food and we're gonna like steam. You know,
it doesn't matter if it's cauliflower or broccoli, but especially
Brussels sprouts. You see them. They smell like somebody had
gas and they're not particular that. Y know, they're really
good for you, like, oh, stay away, no thanks. Now

(06:12):
they're in restaurants right now. If you say like, okay, hey,
what are we having for dinner, We're gonna start with
some Brussels sprouts. Like oh, as a kid, if that
was what the mom said, Hey, you know you're having
we're having dinner tonight, so you know, don't eat, don't
eat any snack any late late, like, oh what are

(06:32):
you having? Mom? Well, we're gonna have brussel spets, Like oh,
I gotta fill up my stomach with something else and
figure out a way to take as little as possible
and then give it to the dog or throw it
away or put it in a napkin. Now somebody says like,
you're make a Brussels sprouse Like I mean, if the
lions come back, or the lions turn around from a
laughing stock to arguably or maybe inarguably the best team

(06:54):
in the NFL this year, and again like they weren't perfect,
they were dying to be beaten yesterday. Is a lot
like brussel sprouts, where like now they're on a menu.
People order them, throw a little bacon, little balsamic glaze
after you either flash frame or you bake them, like
I just bake them in the oven. They're fantastic, fantastic,

(07:14):
and the lions are equally fantastic lions of Brussels sprouts.
Go ahead, talk about that with your friends when you're
sitting around there, when you're outside the Victoria's Secret today,
Like you know those those shops. I know nobody goes
to the mall anymore, right, but you do go shopping today,
and all of us guys are all kind of the same, like, yeah,
I'll go with you. You know, you're watching your game
on your on Amazon on your phone, and now you're

(07:35):
sitting next to another dude like she's in where bed
bath thing beyond you, mine's in Victoria's Secret. You're sitting
out there and you can just turn to that other
dude who you just met thirty minutes, thirty seconds ago
and go like, you know the lions are like Brussels
sprouts and go into the little ramt and see how
that works for you.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Do you think people aren't shopping because stores aren't open.
We've seen this big push lately of we we respect
are workers?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh gosh, we have as is all gonna say? Are
we gonna flip this back to where it's I saw?
That's a great question, Dan, it's a great question. I
think they're not shopping because they just shop online, to
be honest with.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
You, And I think that they're not open because people
are shopping online. Like it's not like like if you
could make money, a whole bunch of money by opening
at eight o'clock.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Last night.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
In the local news here in southern California, there were
outlet malls that were open, and I don't know they
were open all night long. It made it sound like
it seemed like that, but we don't. We didn't see
the big rush, and we don't see the big rush anymore.
But I just wonder if is it because you didn't
make money or are you truly caring about your employees
so they can spend things fat?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
You sound like you had a thought there.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
But no, I think I think You're right, Doug in
that it is a lot of shopping online. But I
think Dan's also onto something that it is kind of masking.
It's like, all right, we can save costs but not
opening until later because now we've got everyone shopping online.
But we'll mask it in this like idea that we're
caring about our employees, where it's just like, yeah, we're
just gonna save money by not opening until later.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well do I do? I think there's complaining from employees
of course.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh yeah, nobody wants to particular.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
No, people just don't want to work period, let alone,
you know, let alone, now right, They just don't like
that's true, They just don't. It's like, man, but I
I think that there's a lot there's actually there's a
lot more to it. I do wonder if you know,
as the pendulum swings, we became so overly protective of

(09:34):
workers and their time, and maybe now the pendulum swings like, hey,
we got to get back to work. Like I don't know,
Black Friday was I never got up. I never stayed
up all night. But it is kind of a thing,
and it's weird if that thing goes away or that
thing becomes muted because people are concerned with workers and
their times, with their homes. Yeah, you know it's a

(09:57):
great thought, but like, what's the reality to it?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I got a quick lie Ions thought. Chris Purfett covers
the Lions pride of Detroit are are Lions fans? I
felt this way as a Seahawks fan when they became popular.
It's like when the band that you loved that nobody
knew about all of a sudden has a hit song
and everybody likes them. Is there any resentment within the
Lions fan base and the people that listen to your

(10:21):
stuff and read that stuff about how the Lions are
becoming a popular team?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (10:26):
No.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
I think there's some like concern as far as like jinxes,
but other than that, Like I once talked with Joe Doue.
I got a chance to talk with Joe Dumars one time.

Speaker 9 (10:35):
You know, Jo's throwing.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Him the ball in a short during the interview. Would
he to just lock you down he could ask any questions?

Speaker 10 (10:44):
No.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
I actually got to ask him about Rashid Wallace, which
was a dream for me. But he's put it great
about the Detroit sports scene where it's like you're not
quite front runners, But there's always competition in Detroit if
you're not If the Pistons aren't doing well, they're gonna
go to the Red Games. The Red Wings aren't doing
well to go to the Lions game. If they're not
doing well, they'll go to Michigan. There's so many sports

(11:05):
competing there that you do kind of naturally see these surges,
whereas like the Red Wings were the team of Detroit
fans in the nineties than the Tigers and the twenty tens.
Now it's all about the Lions non stop. So I
think it's just, you know, you're kind of used to
having a lot more people coming in and just I
think everyone's just feeling the good vibes still at this point,
Like it's it's been all positive in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
You're like, we they like us, They finally like us.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, there's some resentment about people. It's like, oh, you've
been putting us down for so long. Now you're paying
attention for.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
A long time, Like what are we supposed to do?

Speaker 7 (11:37):
I know, yeah, it's but that's how fans think. It's
just it's it's, oh, now you're paying attention to us
kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
The craziest thing as a Seahawks fan was people didn't
really care when they made it to Super Bowl forty.
It wasn't that the fact that they were winning that
people started to care, because the Sea actually hadn't been
a consistent winner at all until Mike Homegren came there.
I mean, Chuck Knox, you know, for a few years

(12:04):
in the eighties, but otherwise they hadn't been good. So
you thought, now we're good, people start to love us,
and they were kind of irrelevant. It wasn't until an
irrelevant good team, if you will. It wasn't until Pete Carroll,
legion of Boom Russell Wilson come in that then they
become mainstream and overly popular. And that's what was really

(12:25):
weird because when they played the Steelers in the Super
Bowl in Detroit. I know where it's going, Doug, But
obviously Pittsburgh a lot closer than Seattle. We know the
fan base dominated by Pittsburgh fans, sure, but it wasn't
like this we always knew about because they were the
twelfth man and then legality that now they call him

(12:45):
in the twelves. We had known that since the eighties
and nineties, but it wasn't as big as it was
until Pete Carroll, the new Unis legion of Boom and
Russell Wilson came along.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Hey, you guys have drew medicine from Detroit.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Interesting is the guy they've been Dan Buyer for Dan
and the Dan Nets.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And then you have the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 9 (13:13):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
What to say there? I guess the positives are they
kept fighting. The positives are down down big. Even the
start of the fourth quarter, they had the ball down
twenty three to twenty marching down the football field in
field goal range on second down, in field goal range.
On second down, Caleb Williams takes a sack, which you're

(13:39):
not supposed to do, right, Isn't that again? This is
is there?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Are?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
There are? I don't. I played football for seven years
growing up, and now he's never played in high school,
didn't play obviously in college. Okay, I've covered sports. I
know sports my whole life. I don't know every hard
and fast rule. I know that as when you're a
punt returner, you're supposed to plant your heels on the

(14:04):
ten yard line and if it goes over your head
unless your name's like Tyreek Hill, and you're trying to
make a play goes over your head. You let it
go like I know that, and I know that late
in the game like that, you cannot take a sack, right,
we do know that, right. I think everybody's sitting there
was watching it. They going like, you can't take a
sack there, and he did. Okay, so you get up.

(14:26):
You watch the video and with twenty three seconds to go,
they have one time out. It's third down, and the
offensive linemen are doing the I don't know what you
call it, like the wind thing, you know, your finger
where you're doing. It's like into a circular motion. We
wind wine wine wine, like let's go, like we got
to get something in. And what happens afterwards, so they

(14:50):
they finally get guys lined up, and then Caleb Williams
even changes the play. By the time they snap the football,
there's like seven six seconds on the clock. He throws
it down the field. It's incomplete to Romadoons and they
have no time to get a second play in kick
a field goal. They never got to use their time out.

(15:13):
Here's Caleb Williams, by the way, explaining it.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
I don't have a microphone to speak to coach or
anything like that. So there was there wasn't like any
huge communication that situation. You get a call with that time,
you gotta you know, you gotta try and get the
guys back, get everybody lined up, so you go run
a play and you know, we got lined up, got
the play, and then you know, I made an adjustment
because I saw the clock running down, knowing that if
we complete a ball and you know, in bounds or
anything like that, we won't have time to kick a

(15:40):
field goal or anything like that. So you know, I
made adjustment. New Rome was either gonna be one on
one or he was gonna you know, beat the safety
and be one on one there, and you know, tried
to give him a shot. We got the shot and miss.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Okay. So so Dan, here's my question. It's obvious there
if you listen to Caleb Williams, it's a contradiction. And
you know he's like, we can get a field goal
off like you had a time out, So he obviously
must have in the moment forgot they had a time out.
Would you be okay if he goes like I forgot we.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Had a time No, that would be that would not
be okay.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Why that's clearly what happened.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
I don't nothing that he really said made sense, Like
taking a shot to Roam's single coverage. There wasn't single coverage.
Taking a shot as time runs out, like the longer
pass play ensures that the clock is gonna go out.
Maybe that's what he's thinking, But I don't know. I
don't know if you can say that as a quarterback,

(16:44):
maybe that's a better way for me to put it.
Even if you didn't know, you could try to just
word salad it and explain yourself and hope nobody follows
up on it. But you have to know if you're
a quarterback at that point.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
You had something on eber flush.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
He did speak with the media earlier today and says
that he expects to coach against San Francisco and is
we mentioned he's gonna meet with Kevin Warren and Ryan
Poles later today, but he has already met with them
after the game, so there hasn't been a move made.
He expects that he's going to be back and by

(17:23):
all accounts doubling down on what they did yesterday. From
what I've seen on social media in the in the
comments from some of the Bears reporters.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, that was bad. And and like I'm there's not
trying to pile on to Bears fans, but been a
tough little month here, Yeah, I mean it's a tuflot
month here. Had the Packers dead to rights, he sits
on a forty six yard field goal, gets blocked, the
commander's game they have in the back, can't lose that game,

(18:00):
can't lose the game. They have one of their defensive
backs dancing while the ball's being stabbed, and lose on
a hail Mary. And then and then they lost in
overtime last week to the to the Vikings. And then yesterday,
I just I don't even know I was you know me,

(18:24):
I never shut up. I have plenty of words. I
have no words for what that that that that was,
And Caleb Williams kind of taking ownership. Hey there, I
don't have a microphone like you never have a microphone,
So you just kind of get the play in and
get guys lined up well like they were in that process.
It took way too long. And then making the admitting

(18:47):
you made an adjustment to throw the ball down the field,
which by the way, wasn't in the end zone. Wasn't
like you took an in zone shot. No part of
that explanation made sense, especially considering you had to tie
it end you had a time out in your back pocket.
I do think that Caleb Williams sort of owned it,
but didn't even understand or wasn't able to explain how

(19:09):
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(19:31):
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Patrick Show. Coming up next. Wait to you what Micah
Parsons said fresh off the Cowboys victory of the Giants.
That's next.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
He said that they're back in under.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Something yeah yeah again to get ready to make a run.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah run, yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, no, And it's one of those things where like
I really like Micah Parsons, like he has obviously a
great football player, he's got great energy. But I don't
think there's any player that unwittingly shows the need for
like a PR team instead of doing your own podcast

(20:18):
more than Michah Parsons, because I don't think he means
anything by a lot of things he says, but they
they they come across as somebody who's very very young,
it says. It's it's constantly putting out fires over things
that he said and probably didn't mean anything about. And
there's nothing more. There's nothing worse than the like, hey,

(20:39):
we just beat the Giants. Grant they beat Commanders the
week before. We just beat the Giants, and we still
have a road game against the Eagles, and granted there's
some other potential dubs out there, but we're gonna make
a run. We're back. You're brack with with what? Like

(21:00):
you survived the Giants. I just Cooper Rush thrown for
a buck ninety five does not signify the Cowboys being back.
Still have the same issues. Jared Smith joins us year
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people don't know Jared of Course is our lead betting analyst,
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(21:22):
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shall we. Let's start with here's all games really that

(21:44):
could have an effect on the college wall playoff? How
about Notre Dame and USC, Jared, you look at the Irish,
of course, this is a game they simply cannot lose,
right in their current position with the Northern Illinois loss,
the A and M windows and look as good. Cannot
lose this game, can't do it. Can't lose this game.

(22:05):
And the line I believe last time I checked was
seven and a half US season seven and a half
point dog at home, fifty two and a half to
the total.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
Yeah, we've kind of been hovering around the seven all week,
and I think you're one hundred percent right. Notre Dame
cannot lose. If they win this game, they're gonna get
a home playoff game, which I don't think a lot
of people expected that after they lost to NIU in September,
and no doubt about it, of all the teams that
are competing for the college football Playoff, that is the.

Speaker 9 (22:33):
Most unquality loss of all of them.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
And if it happened in November, we might be having
a very different conversation about Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (22:40):
But we're not.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
We're having a very positive conversation about the Irish. They
have looked very good USC. I'll be honest, this is
of all the games this weekend that can kind of
cause chaos, and you know, it's it's hard to predict
the chaos, but this is the one that I don't
think a lot of people would be surprised if USC battled.
They have had a really positive season. They're a top
forty defense. I don't think anyone expected that. The quarterback

(23:03):
situation is intriguing here. I think with Notre Dame's defense,
that is the strength of their team. If it's my
ava for USC, who's more of a runner, I actually
think that favors Notre Dame. I think if Miller Moss
plays in this game, I think this might be a
sneaky good spot for USC. Notre Dame does not go
into the Coliseum very often and win by margin. They
have not won by more than a touchdown. It's only

(23:27):
happened five times since nineteen sixty six. So it's just
it's very rare for them to go into what is
an interesting environment and play good football. I think the
USC defense needs to keep them in this game. I
think they're gonna have to play the game of their life.
Notre Dame is a very physical football team. They're gonna
try to run it right down their throats. But USC
has been in a lot of games this year. They've

(23:49):
actually had the lead in every fourth quarter this year,
and that is crazy because they haven't won a lot
of those games, but they've at least battled, and I
think that's been the impressive thing for USC this season
after what we saw last year where they kind of
fell flat in a lot of these spots. I would
favor USC in this game, like I would take seven
and a half. I think that is a number I
would bet if Miller Moss plays. I really like USC.

(24:11):
If not, I just a little bit like them. But
I do think the Trojans are live and Notre Dame's
got a battle on their hands on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
I actually find today's slate pretty interesting, including the game
that's coming up top of the hour. You talk about
playoff implications. Boise State needs to keep on winning, but
they're at home to Oregon State game on Fox. By
the way, just wanted to say that just in passing,
But does Boise State need to impress? Do they need
to do anything because they're locked in as a conference

(24:40):
champion if things keep rolling? How do you think the
Broncos against the Beavers today pans out?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (24:45):
I mean Oregon State to me is a team that battles,
and they're coming off of their most impressive win of
the year beating Washington State, who actually had kind of
an outside shot if the real chaos broke out to
kind of sneak into the field. I don't think anyone
really thought it was gonna happen. But Oregon State put
an end to all that. They won that game as
a double digit dog last week. Like, who is Boise

(25:07):
State played? I think that is the question that the
committee members have to ask. They did play that game
tight at Oregon in September. I think Oregon if you
watched the Oregon throughout the year, I think it's fair
to say that they've evolved immensely, right with Gabriel quarterback
like that was kind of a work in progress. In
the first month of the year, he was getting sacked
a ton. I think Oregon, especially defensively, has really settled

(25:28):
down since.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
But Boise State hasn't really impressed me over the last
few weeks.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
I mean, you go to Wyoming and you win by
you know, one score when you're favored by three touchdowns.
So I think Boise because of the Big twelve chaos,
they are comfortably in that. Okay, if we win, we're
probably gonna get the buye and frankly, I think that's
all they care about. So so asking a team to
win with margin when they don't need to win with margin,

(25:53):
I think is a tough ask. I don't love Oregon State,
but it's I think it's gonna be an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Jared, I have a question for you again. We we
haven't prepped you four or whatever. I think Boise's take
in the buy is the most laughable injustice in the
idea of creating justice I've ever heard of.

Speaker 9 (26:11):
I totally agree.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
Okay, I think the biggest I think the biggest pushback
I have with this bracket is we need to figure
out a better way to grade the non SEC Big
ten schools, Like we can't just.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
Go right now. They're basing it off record like that,
that's not that doesn't fly.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
Like at least when we had the BCS, say which
want about the BCS, at least we had some way
to grade the schedules. It seems like the committee is
just looking at the records and saying, oh, you've got
one loss, you've got two losses.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
We're gonna we're gonna cipher it out that way.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I even think Indiana, like what are we doing with
Indiana being in the field? Who have they beaten? Why
should they be? I don't get it because they're.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
Playing the Big Ten. They've only lost one game that
that honest.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
But they have, but they've played the bottom of the
Big Ten. You're right, it's like they're in like I've
done this for years at the basketball like, well they
they're in the ACC, Like, yeah, what do they do
against Carolina Duke? Well they didn't play them? Like okay,
well you didn't play you played Ohio State. You have Blade, Oregon,
ham Blay, Penn State, ham Blade, Iowa, not that Iowa
was great, but like again, I don't think there's a

(27:16):
win over a team with an above five hundred record
in conference play.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
It's a problem.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
I think that's and to be fair, like, I think
it'll work itself out when these teams do play each
other in the playoff, like let's say Indiana does get
a home game against Georgia in the playoff.

Speaker 9 (27:32):
I mean, I don't know what the bracts gonna look like,
but I.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
Think we're gonna see a couple of these, call it
cupcake playoff teams that probably aren't in the top caliber
of college football talent, and they're gonna play one of
these teams, and you're gonna see it, and it's gonna
take a holatious blowout for anything to be changed.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
I do think the bracket format has been the weirdest
part of this.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
Like you look at the rankings when they get revealed
on Tuesday night and it's like one through twelve and
then like one through twelve is not in the field.

Speaker 9 (28:02):
So it just I think it's hard for the average
fan to wrap their head around.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
That hottest ticket in all of college football and a
sun even close is in College station on Saturday. I mean,
this This Texas Texas A and M rivalry is off
the charts, considering they haven't played in over a decade.
But the long Horns come in almost like the opposite
of Oregon, a little jared and feeling like Oregon started

(28:26):
slow and has turned it on. I feel like Texas
started hot now maybe hasn't been as strong. How do
you think the Longhorn's fair going into College Station to
face the Aggies.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
Yeah, what a what a great game. I mean, I'm
glad that we get this rivalry back. It's been I
think twenty ten or twenty eleven the last time they played.
We have seen Texas take a little money this week.
I think a lot of it depends on yours and
his status. It looks like probable on the injury report,
But these SEC injury reports have been like toilet paper
this year. They just they're not really worth much. I

(28:56):
was really disappointed last week with A and M. Like
when you look at their defensive line and you look
at the athletes that they have, I was surprised that
and this is a defense that has played really well
this year. Mike Elco is one of the best coaches
in the country that maybe you haven't heard of yet.
You're gonna you're gonna hear a lot about them if
if they figure out a way to win this game
and get into the SEC title game. But you're facing

(29:17):
an Auburn defense, or excuse me, you're facing an Auburn
offensive line last.

Speaker 9 (29:21):
Week that is one of the worst in college football,
or at least in there of a conference.

Speaker 10 (29:25):
And you get all of these SEC athletes stud athletes
up front, and you're stunting and you're doing all this
weird stuff. The way A and M played that game
last week, it almost seemed like they were the less
physical team, where if you have the dudes that they
have up front, like just go like just run straight
up the field and blow up the offensive line. I

(29:46):
don't think they're gonna be able to play that way
this week. Like they're gonna have to use a little
more magic to get through what is a very really,
really physical Texas front. And I think that's the key
here in this game. Doug, We've discussed this A and
M d line all year. This is gonna be a
great matchup against the Texas offensive line. They are also
a very physical unit, one of the best in college football.
Kyle Field at night again, the first time this rivalry

(30:09):
is being played in fifteen years, so I do expect
there to be a little bit of starks behind it.
But it's all about your status, like is he gonna
be healthy, what's the offense gonna look like? A we
gonna see arch Manning in this game. I've heard rumblings
that maybe you start arch Manning and you try to
get a spark there and then you go to youers
later if it doesn't work, or vice versa, you start
youers and you keep arch Manning ready to go if Quinn.

Speaker 9 (30:30):
Is still a little bit banged up. But I do
like the Texas running game.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
If Auburn can move it against his A and M defense,
I do think Texas can too, and kent Texas A
and M kind of rise to the occasion. They've played
a couple of big games at night at Kyle Field
this year. The one early in the season against Notre
Dame didn't go well. I really am hard pressed not
to take Texas in this game. I just I struggle
to lay more than a field goal.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Uh Michigan twenty and a half point Dogs at Ohio
State totals forty three and a half. So obviously Vegas
not a big buyer in Michigan's offense, despite the fifty
points they put out against Northwestern. But look, it's Ryan
Day's nemesis. Feels like this is one where if Ohio's
taking a lead, it gets really really ugly. But if
it's tight, well it could be really you know, like,

(31:16):
how does Ohio State react after the big win last week?
What do you think of that number?

Speaker 10 (31:20):
Yeah, this one opened up right at twenty one, and
we did see a little bit of money come in
on Michigan. I think the Will Johnson injury he was
announced out actually right before I came on here. I
don't think that's gonna move the number. I think that
was kind of already baked in. He's missed the last
few games, the injury. Really to keep an eye on
his Colston Lovelin. He is the offense for Michigan. Out

(31:40):
of the one hundred and seventy receptions for the Wolverines
this year, he has accounted.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
For fifty six of them.

Speaker 10 (31:45):
He's a tight end, so he's not even a wide receiver.
But I do like what I've seen a little bit,
you know, from Davis Warren lately. They blew out Northwestern.
I know Northwestern isn't good, but for Michigan to drop
fifty on anyone this year, I think is impressive. Ohio
State unquestionably in a lot of the sharp circles, number
one in the power ratings, and I think what we
saw last week against Indiana was a dominant performance.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
I didn't love Ryan Day with the push push late.

Speaker 10 (32:09):
I thought that Trevion Anderson actually made the smart play
going down in that game and not having to put
the Ohio State defense back onto the field, and Ryan
Day's like, hey, we're gonna leave no doubt and score
a touchdown.

Speaker 9 (32:19):
It really is impressive.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Though.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
The defensive line, the defensive front for Ohio State with
Knowles as the coordinator, like like they have all of
the pieces in place to make a run. The question
is is will Howard good enough to get across the
finish line. He's very good enough to get across the
finish line in this particular game.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
Michigan, though, has.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
Looked good, like they've dominated over the last few games.
We've seen them dominate this rivalry. I think margin is
the key word here, Like this is a big spread,
low total. I would favor a favorite in that spot,
because usually that's the market telling you that the underdog
is not very good.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
But ironically, the over, like.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
You think defense when you think of these two teams,
the overs ten in all in the last ten games.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
Between these two.

Speaker 10 (33:00):
So there has been this vibe of hey, I don't
care what the total is, I don't care what this
bride is. We are going to score as many points
as possible on every single possession. After we saw what
Ryan Dad did to Indiana last week, if he could
drop fifty on this Michigan team, they are going to
keep scoring as much as possible. So I actually would
favor the over here forty two. I mean, really, you

(33:21):
really only need probably ten points for Michigan because I
do think Ohio State's gonna put up a forty spot
in this game.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Dan, you agree, Yes, I think that there are some
access to grind for Shure.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I agree. This is one where, yeah, there will be
a lot of throwing in the fourth quarter where they
wouldn't normally wouldn't normally be Jared Smith Fox Sports Radio,
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(33:54):
He's Dan Byro. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and
the Dan Nets. Coming up? Is the price right or
the price wrong? You'll find out next.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm Jewish. I'm proud you you're not offending me by
wishing me merry Christmas, and I'm allowed to wish you
a merrik Christmas. I really truly hope you have the
merriest of Christmases. Good, we got that out of the way,
all right, Let's get to the prices, right, all right.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
We've had some great winners so far here on the
Dan Patrick Show taking home some great items. In fact,
are three contestants and each brought home two items of peace.
Doug Gottlieb, you've got your hands on your newspaper that
you were on the cover of of the La Times
from nineteen ninety eight as part of the Wooden Classic previews.
You also were able to land the Caitlyn Clark or

(34:45):
Crilic Christmas ornament in a fever uniform as you hit
the perfect fid the only perfect bid so far nine
to ninety nine for that ornament. So that's what you're
taking home. Tom's garbage bailed kids of Aaron Judge. Who
that did Chris or Jason get that? You got that
Aaron Judge, the Aaron apple Elsberg pale kid that was mine?

(35:05):
That was Jason Stewart. Jason Stewart's brought that home a
lot of great items. You also got the Matt Eberflu's helmet,
while Chris Burfett got the Reygon hologram card for three
bucks when it was six bucks, and the autographed lanyard
I believe was yours as well. So final items up

(35:26):
for bids you you guys ready for number one stud
this well? The Matt Eberflus helmet autograph mini helmet went
for one twenty four ninety nine on eBay. What will
you guys bid on a Brian Dabole autograph Giants' mini helmets?
Doug will start the bidding with you.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Let's see here Brian Dable Mean Giants helmet.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
All right, Jason Stewart who put Stable on blast last
year on social media? What do you bid on this
stable autograph Giants mini helmet.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
You know nineteen ninety nine is way? Well, I'm gonna
go with one nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Wow, all right, Chris Purfett putting me in a spot. Uh,
I'm gonna go thirty nine ninety nine. See if I
can find a middle spot.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
All right?

Speaker 5 (36:19):
And the person who's taking home the Brian Diable autograph
Giants mini helmet is Chris Purfetts ninety nine dollars? Ninety
nine dollars was the price of this? You got it
for a steal, almost sixty dollars below eBay price.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Dug showing no respect for the day Ball mini helmet.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Ninety ninety nine?

Speaker 10 (36:41):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (36:41):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
The mini helmet?

Speaker 9 (36:42):
Is it to fit his?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I guess the head size doesn't change when your body,
It just becomes.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
More oppos would be good? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah? Does theo good? Does the mini helmet account for
his ozempeic this pass offseason.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Hat size? Little smaller go to lids have to get
a new lid.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, he's a big fella dere it's.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Looking good though, all right? Look next aunt him up forbids.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Antonio Brown autographed leaf metal card that at first I
thought said put that shirt on, which I thought was
funny because he ran off the shirt. Then I realized
that shirt was missing a letter. Okay, so that was
written by Antonio Brown. Autographed auto leaf metal card by
Antonio Brown, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
We start the bidding with you.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
If I'm missing a letter, I'm guessing you Meania. It
says put your.

Speaker 9 (37:32):
Shirt on shirt.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh oh, see what you did there.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm gonna go with thirty four.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
All right, Chris Purfett.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
So if the Brian Dable hat was around one hundred
helmet helmet, excuse me? We got something here from a player,
former player, former player with a cussword on it with
a customer card.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
I think it's a card, yeah, and I think that
ups the value. I'm gonna go sixty nine ninety nine, all.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Right, sixty nine ninety nine, Doug uh Okay, first bid
was what thirty four ninety nine?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Secondent with sixty nine nine nine, yes, seventy dollars all right.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
The winner of the Antonio Brown cussword autograph leaf metal
card that's on sale right now on eBay is Doug Gottlieb.
It's one hundred dollars right now. What the four taxes
and fees one hundred dollars right now, And I think
it's only fitting. We had a couple of Doug Gottlieb items,
But let's honor Dan Patrick. Nineteen ninety six Pinnacle select

(38:37):
in Fuego Dan Patrick signed autographed insert number sixteen. This
is a trading card from nineteen ninety six. Again an
autographed insert. Chris Purfett, Where do you start the bidding?
Could get the gift that keeps on giving? Dan Patrick

(38:58):
autographed trading card.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
I'm gonna go thirty nine ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
Thirty nine ninety nine Doug Gottlieb forty dollars, forty dollars
Jason Stewart, So.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
That I'm gonna say forty dollars and one cent.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
For fos and one cent and the winner of the
nineteen ninety six Pinnacles Selecting Fuego Dan Patrick signed autographed
insert is Jason Stewart's thank you. This card on eBay
two hundred and twenty four dollars and ninety nine cents. Wow, Yes,

(39:34):
bos priced item.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Wow this option.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
So let's pay respect where respect is due is respect?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Respect? All right? JA, That's it for this edition of
the Dan Patrick's show for Chrisphfett, Jason Stewart, of course,
my dear friend Dan Byer, I'm Doug Gottlieb. Reminder listening
to Doug Gottlieb show. It airs daily three to five
is from twelve two Pacific. You can downloaded in podcast
form as well. Stipen Dougallid wherever you get podcasts in

(40:04):
the meantime, Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas. I'm safe. This is
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