May 3, 2024 • 53 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP talks to Pacers Head Coach Rick Carlisle about facing his former point guard Jalen Brunson in Round 2 of the playoffs. NBA Hall of Famer Charles Barkley discusses the uncertain future of "Inside the NBA." Plus, Rebecca Lowe of NBC Sports previews this weekend's Kentucky Derby.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Milwaukee Bucks sent packing by the Pacers. Rick
Carlinle third season as the Pacers head coach, joining us
on the program. Go back a week when you heard
that Giannis was not going to be able to play,
might be limited. What adjustments did you make?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, you know, a couple of the adjustments had to
be with any notion that it was then going to
be an easy task to try to beat these guys
because they have veteran experience, they're a proud team, They've
got a lot of physical toughness, and so, you know,
it was just it was uncertain.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, I.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Think Giannas's injury it happened about eight to ten days
before serious was going to start. Seemed pretty clear that
he probably wouldn't play the first game, maybe the first
two games, but there was a lot of just stuff
lying around.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It was he just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And then so that was something and they were, you know,
you know, the not not unpredictably.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
There was I think their team fed the little.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The missing the the information, you know, pathways a little bit.
There was a lot of rumors about this, rumors about that,
so you know, it became, in a way, a different
kind of challenge.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What's the differences between playoff coaching and regular season coaching?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, Dan, the playoffs are insanity. I mean it's you know,
I and I. You know, Steve Nash once said this,
it's the playoffs are so intense and so emotional that
when you win a game in the playoffs, it's you
get so exuberant, you feel like you're never going to
lose again, And when you lose a game in the playoffs,
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you feel like you're never gonna win again.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I mean, it's that it's that extreme.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And so.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You know, you can have some big games in the
in the regular season. This year, you know, the n
Season Tournament added to the intensity level a pretty significant amount,
you know, back in November December, But there's nothing like
the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
When you guys get done with your win, you close
out the bucks, how quickly do you turn on the
next game?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, I.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Drove home, which is about twenty five minute drive, and
then turn it on and watched, you know, whatever was
left of the third quarter and the fourth And I
mean you talk about ups and downs, I mean the
stuff that was going on in that series was it
was crazy. I mean, you know, Phillies down eight with
like two minutes to go when they tie it, you know,
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last night, and then in game five, I mean, we
go out, we go out for our game five, which
was after the nixt Game five. You know, I left
the locker room in Milwaukee to go out for our game,
and you know, New York was up six with like
forty five seconds left, and he just said, okay, well
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the NIXT one. And then you find out after the
game they lost it over time, like what. But that's
that's how that's how crazy things can be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Who does Jalen Brunson remind you of.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, that's a great question. He's a he's he's forged
out a you know, a niche in in in the
NBA and really in league history, in nick history, which
is you know, very very very unique. You know, there's
there's a little bit of Steve Nash. I suppose there's
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some James Harden, There's some you know, I you know,
I could go on and on. I mean, there's some
Dame Lillard, there's some there's a lot, there's a lot
of different elements. But he's he's doing something that is
very uniquely him. And you know, I know Jalen well
because we had him for his first couple of years
when I was when I was in Dallas. He's just
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he's a He's a guy that is has extremely strong
belief in himself, and you know, New York has turned
him loose, you know, to really go and just take
it to whatever extreme he can take it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And so it's been amazing to watch.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm very very happy for him, very proud of him,
and very much not looking forward playing coaching against him.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We're talking to Rick Carlisle, the Pacers head coach, and
then you have Tyrese Haliburton. Do you allow him the
same kind of freedom that the Knicks do with Brunson.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, I think it's pretty evident that we do.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I mean, you know, Tyree's runs the team, he calls
the plays, he has the latitude to be as aggressive
as he deems necessary offensively, and I just I'm just
a believer that if you have if you have special
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players like a Tyresee or a Brunson, you know, or
a Doncis, which I who I coached for three years,
you know, you you've got a rare opportunity to allow
these guys, you know, to have the keys.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And when you do that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And empower them, you know, great things, great things can happen.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
What was your reaction or opinion first time you saw Luca.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
In person? The first time I saw him in person was.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, he he he didn't play in the Summer League.
We we we felt that, you know, since he he
would get gone through to two euro the EuroLeague and
one of the other leagues. They have like different trophies.
It's similar, it's somewhat similar to soccer over there. But
his season is is the last part of his season
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ended like a couple of days before the draft, and
so we just felt that, you know, having him jump
into Summer League from the draft would have would have
been a mistake from a physical fatigue standpoint, So we
held him out. He said on the bench during the
Summer League he wanted, he wanted to play, and you know,
we just we just said, you know, this is not
the right thing. And so the first time I saw
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him play in person was in a pickup game that
fall in twenty eighteen, and he he came in and
you know, we had signed DeAndre Jordan, we had you know,
Wes Matthews. We had who else, Harrison Barnes was on
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the team. We had the makings of a of a
of a of a pretty good team. And he came
in and and he was He played the pickup game
like Magic Johnson. He passed the ever loving crap out
he was he was getting every rebound. He scored some,
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but he was just absolutely controlling the game with vision, passing,
you know, a few shots here and there, and you know,
I watched this and I said, Jesus, this guy's this
guy's actually a point guard. We weren't sure he played
point in the in in his team at Real Madrid,
but you're just never sure how it's all going to
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translate to the NBA. But you know, on day one,
it was clear that that he was that he was
a point guard. And so, you know, then from there,
figuring out how how to kind of take that in
the direction that needed to go was was a little
challenging because we had Dennis Smith Junior, who was a
young player, very talented too. So but that was what
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day one looked like. And then once we got into
the season, you know, you know, Luca found out that
you know, he could really score. I mean, it's scoring
became very easy to him in the NBA. And you'd
have to ask him this, but I think I think
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he probably would say that, you know, he just he wasn't.
He didn't realize coming in that he would would have
been able to impact the game scoring wise the way
he did.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And so he was.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He was a super dynamic from from day one.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And obviously you know he's with a finalist for for
m v P now and if it doesn't happen this year,
it'll it's going to happen soon.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Who's the best shooter in the building? Which building like
your your practice? How about the city of Indianapolis? Who's
the best shooter in town?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Boy, it'd be hard, it'd be hard not to say
that it's Tyree Saliburton right now. Now, if you know
Freddie Miller was in town.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It might be a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
What's that Caitlin Clark? Is she factor in?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She fact chief factors in? This is a trick question.
I knew, I knew you'd hit me with one of these,
but I I I've gotta I've gotta lean toward my
team just because you know, these these are these are
my guys. But uh, you know, Caitlin being on the
scene is is really cool too. And the city I
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think part of part of the buzz around our city
and our team, you know, comes a little bit with
the buzz of her arriving in town as well.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Is Bird still in town? Do you see him often?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Uh? From time to time? Yeah, he I don't know
if he's back in Indiana yet. He's in Florida in
the winner and then he'll be back at his ranch
and uh in uh in in southern Indiana sometime soon.
But uh, if you're asking if he's in the conversation
for best shooter, I think I think that's an obvious.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, I'm sure that he would still think he's the
best shooter.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I know and I know, I know you're gonna
probably ask me about the left handed scoring thing.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You asked me about that one other time.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So if that was against Portland, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
That was against Portland.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It was it was if it was about left handed
jump shooting, you know, if you're righty and he'd be,
you know, he would he'd.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Win that contest.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, imagine if Luca said I'm going to take just
left handed shots in a game. How would you have
reacted to that if you were his coach?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, knowing what I know about Luca, I would have
let him do whatever he felt the right, you know,
the right.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Thing at the time.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like I can't tell you the amount of money I
lost Luca betting against and making half court shots in practice.
I mean, you know, like coach, you know, you know,
you know, I'm not gonna give you. I'm not gonna
give you the amount of money. One out of one,
out of three, one out of three. I was like, yeah,
no way. And then he makes the first or second
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one like every time. I mean, it was, it was.
It was absolutely uncanny, and you know he just Luka
was one of the was one of those guys that
all all he can ever see is how something is
going to happen, like and like doubt never never seemed
to enter his mind at all, and therefore, you know,
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he never thinks about missing and so you know, a
lot of these guys are very unwilling to take you know,
these end of quarter you know, full court heaves, and
you know it's interesting, Dan, Like I was on some
committees you know over the years where you know, we
talked about this, and you know, some people said, well,
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why don't we just come up with a rule where
if a guy takes a shot at the end of
the quarter beyond half court and it misses, it doesn't
count as a field goal attempt. You know, then then
you won't have all this you know, holding on the
ball till the red light goes on and then flinging
it knowing it didn't count.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And then and then we talked about it, and then,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
One of the things I said was, if we do that,
you're going to have guys getting the ball with seven
seconds left in the back court, keeping it in the
back court, keeping it behind the line, behind the half
court line, so that on the on the on the
chance that it doesn't go in, they.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Don't get a they don't get a field goal at ten.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Oh, So that's all stat related that these guys don't
want to take these shots.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, and you're really seriously asking that question.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well, I'm surprised that. I mean, these guys just shoot, That's.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No. But but in the case of in the case
of Luca, in the case of Tyres, I had Darryl
Armstrong for one year as a player, and Darryl Daryl
took it as a personal challenge and he made.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Two or three of them from like sixty feet. And
I'm saying, like, if you, if you took, if you
eliminated all.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The you know, full and three quarter court heaves that
Luca takes and Tyreese takes, these guys would be shooting
him like they're already shooting a great percentage from three.
I mean it would be like exponentially higher. So there's
a different wiring for for some of these guys. And
Bert was the same way. Bert would shoot it every time.
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But you know, you see a lot of guys at
the end of at the end of the commerce, they
hang on to it and then you know they hear
the buzzer, red leg goes on, and then they like
that then they fling it up there.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
When did carrying get out of control? Carrying carrying the ball?
I mean, we're already past traveling, But like I go
back to Stockton and Iverson, it felt like they were
the first guys and now everybody carries the basketball.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Why is that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Said bother me? I love I love this show.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And you were my mentor at ESPN, which is one
of the reasons I've had such a great broadcasting career, probably,
But I'm not into a fifty or sixty thousand dollars
fine talking.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
About oh oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I know this is a very highly rated show.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But it's the concept. It's not the reps. It's that
we've we've allowed it in college, in high school. How
about you can be the anti carrying chairman.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
As if you're one of the ones that this responsible.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It bothers me, It bothers me.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I don't see it as as as that big of
that bigger problem. And you mean we had to carry
call on Tyres in Game five or something like this,
and so it still gets called I think. I think
the bigger thing is that players have adjusted to it,
and I don't think players carry the ball as much
as they did and perhaps in the old days. You know,
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traveling is another is another big challenge. But the league
has made a point of it. I think they've done
a better.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Job with it.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You're not gonna get fined, I won't now, But there
was a chance you were headed down that path. Did
I ever tell you when I got Steve Kerr fined
accidentally did you ever tell me?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I probably saw it on you know, your Instagram stuff
comes up all the time, so you know I may
have seen it.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He I think I cost him twenty five grand. He
was the GM of the Suns and I was asking
him about maybe, hey, you got the mid level exemption
for Lebron and he talked about that and he wasn't
allowed to talk about like he was joking, and the
commissioner find him twenty five grand.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Mean, you know, after the after the Indiana Fever got
the first pick, you know, I got a couple of questions, Hey,
what do you think.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
About Caitlin Clark? You know?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And then I said, well, I gotta be careful about
what I say because I don't want to violate any
rules here. But you know, I can't get enough of
these step back forty footers. I mean, this is this
is the best watching watching her play, you know. So
we're obviously looking forward to they played pretty soon. Yeah
they jump right into this thing. But but anyway, yeah,
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I know.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I look, I there are certain things you gotta be careful.
I know I'm tugging about.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I know, all right, we'll rest that voice for
Monday against the Knicks. You're gonna need it in the garden.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Appreciate that. Good to see as always.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Thank you. Rick. That's Rick Carlo, Pacers head coach, two
time NBA champ. He was there with the eighty six
Celtics and coach of the Mavericks twenty eleven. All right,
let me take a break here. Thanks for listening to
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Charles Barkley, NBA on TNT. Has Patrick beverly played his
last game in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
No, but he gonna get a really good suspension because
you know, he fired that ball in there twice, hit
that lady in the head, which you know, I'm a
really big domestic person man. You can never hit a
woman on the end of circumstances. So he's going to
get a big suspension for that. And then he fired
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it in there twice. And I don't care what anybody
said to you. You cannot do that period.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think you send him to the Wizards and then
you punish him that way.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That is a punishment. But no, man, you know I've
always liked Patrick Beverly, But man, you can't, like I say, man,
you know, I've always had this theme going with the
NBA about domestic violence under those circumstances, can you ever
put your hands on a woman? And he hit that
poor woman in the face with that ball the first time,
then he did it again, throwing it back in the stands.
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So listen, I've done stupid things like that where I
got arrested, got fighting with fans, and I was one
hundred percent wrong, one hundred percent wrong. But you can't
do that under any circumstances.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
All right, Are the Knicks a great team?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
No? No, Bronson is a great player. He's unbelievable. You know,
everybody gave me a lot of hard time this year
when I said that's one of the great free agent
signings of all time. You know, Kenny says, like, what
about Lebron and what about kd I Seyeah, those guys
are all time great. But Bronson is one of the
great signs in NBA history. I don't even think the
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Knicks thought he was going to be as good. The
Knicks did even think that. Yeah, they thought when they
sign him, there's no way they thought he was going
to be as great as a player. So, hey, man,
he's a great kid. I don't know him well, but
I'm happy for him. Period.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Sometimes when you have that team that you know the
sum of the parts makes it a really good team.
They're not necessarily a talented team, but they know what
to do and when to do it. And I think
that that's those are dangerous teams sometimes where sometimes you
rely on stars. Other times its just everybody knows we
have to do this every single night. We can't take
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knights off.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well. I think that the one thing I always say,
every player at the NBA is a good player. Every
player and the player. They're not all all stars the superstars,
but everybody can Everybody in the NBA is a good player,
and you factor in. He's that guy. Every team has
a guy who everybody follows. That's what makes them dangerous.
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Now I'm saying that I'm taking the Pacers. I you know,
I'm taking the Pacers in that next series. You know,
the two things, the two things I said earlier this year,
the Pacers getting Ziakam and the MAVs getting gafferd and PJ.
Those were the two best trade deadlines, the deals that happened.
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I still feel really good about my prediction. I think
the Pacers and the MAVs are the two most dangerous
teams left in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Wait, you got the MAVs going to the Western you know,
representing the Western Conference in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I do not. I didn't do that. I'm saying though,
that they had the best. Getting Gaffered and PJ made
them dangerous. Listen, I think listen, I gotta tell you something, man,
OKC in Minnesota, Man, what they're doing is incredible. We
got the first game tomorrow or the MAVs the stunt,
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the bath, excuse me us Tonight the Nuggets against Minnesota
is a heavyweight slugfest. I got a zero idea who
gonna win that series. But that's a big boy matchup.
I can't wait to get it started tomorrow. I think
Okac beats whoever comes out of the MAVs cluper series.
I do. But I love what the MAVs did getting
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Gafford and PJ. But I love Okac I think they're
gonna win that bracket. And man, I'm really excited about
this the Nuggets. I'm really excited about them against Minnesota
because that is a big boys series.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
When can we start making any kind of comparison with
Anthony Edwards to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh in five to ten years.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh, I can't do anything now of starting his career
in Mike. Starting his career.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, Mike average. People forget he averaged thirty eight a
game back back when you could really knock the hell
out of people. He have his thirty eight points a game.
People forget that. And then you know Anthony, who I love.
I love he don't have to go through the bad
boy pisson when they just beat the hell out of
you three or four years in a row. I love
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Anthony Edwards. I love his mentality. I love One of
the best things I seen on television this year was
when he was with Scott Van Pelt and he says,
I'm just gonna kill everything in front of me. I
haven't seen but two players in my NBA career but
said that, and that's Michael and Kobe. They didn't care
about anybody, they didn't want any friends. They didn't want
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any front ofies. They just wanted to kill everything in
front of them. I love Anthony Edwards. He's my favorite
player in the NBA now because all these guys out
here want to hug and kids and seen Kumbayer, Anthonywis
just want to kill everything in front of him. I
love watching him play.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Isaiah never tried to kiss you, did he we.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Isaiah's was you know. I feel bad for Isaiah because
he's the as little man ever until Steph Curry. He
never probably got the credit or respect that he deserved,
and so I feel bad about it. Love. I got
an of respect for Isaiah because, like I say, he's
the best look until Steph Curry came along. And I'll
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be honest with you. If I was in a game,
if I had to choose, and I love Steph Curry,
and I know people gonna go to the internet because
they ain't got no life. If I had to choose
between Steph Curry and UH and Isaiah, I'd probably go
with Isaiah in a in a scenario. But I love Steph.
I love Isaiah. But if I had one guy, if
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I had to choose between those two, I'm not going
to ever choose against Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Were you involved in the discussions with the Olympic team
of not winning Isaiah? Were you around that conversation?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Never? They never asked me.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You never heard did you hear it?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Never? Never? You know, So I'm glad you asked me
that beause every time I hear that BS like.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Man, they never asked me, said Isaiah have been on
the team, probably, but I don't. I was never asked.
And well, I mean, like I said, obviously, you know
it's come out a couple of times if Michael didn't
want him on the team. I think Jack McCallen came
out with a quote last year saying, and he had
it on the record that Michael didn't want Isaiah on
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the team. That's between them. But no, I was never
asked about Isaiah on the Dream.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Team seventy six ers going forward. They got cap space
and they got draft picks. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
What are you gonna do? I think they're in a
great situation. They got to get Joel healthy. But and
maxi Is turned into a star right before our eyes. So, man,
you know it's funny. I asked for a list. I
asked for a list last night of the most available
free agents, and there's some interest and names on there,
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Paul George og and a new Bay Pascal see Akham.
So they gonna have some choices because Joel is an MVP,
Maxie is an emerging star. I think Philip Davis done
a great situation going forward, But they got to find
the right guy because if they get the right guy, man,
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they gonna be a contender. Because let me tell you something.
I said this on the air, the Boston Celtics are
probably going to be the favorite to win the NBA
Championship for the next five to seven years. They are,
you know, Jason and Jalen, they're both like, I think
they're twenty three or twenty four. They just signed Drew
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Holliday for the next four years. I don't think for
Zingers is older. So they're going to be the favorite
going into this. You know, obviously Denver's right there because
the joker, he's the best player in the world. But
the Celtics are going to be the favorite for the
next five years or in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Talking to Charles Barkley, the Hall of Famer feel better
about the Lakers or Warriors going forward.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
As radio said both. I don't feel good about either.
They both stink, and I know what they're gonna do.
They gonna throw the coach off the bus overboard. Excuse me,
it's not Darvin Ham. It's not Darvin Ham or Frank Vogel.
That the reason that the Warriors and the Lakers suck.
The Warriors got old. That happens you get old. Well,
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first of all, you hope you get old or you're dead.
So the Warriors got old and the Lakers got old too,
so there's nothing you can do about that, but neither
one of them, and it really bothered me. I went
off a couple of months ago about all these jackasses
and idiots on other networks that who's gonna make a run.
The Lakers are the Warriors, I said, neither neither gonna
make a run either. Want them are any good? And
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uh and they and they're not any good going forward
unless they do something drastic.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
How do you feel about the Suns moving forward?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, they're really do they're they're probably they're probably worse.
They're probably worse, and I know they're gonna probably throw
Frank Vogel on the overboard. It's not his fault.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He just got there.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I know. But you know what, we're in a generation
where these players, if you say anything about them, they're sensitive,
and it's always the coach's fault. That's the one thing
I hate about the game today. It's, well, it's the
coach's fault. I'm like, well, the Lakers they're not any good.
The Wars aren't any good, The Sons aren't any good.
They ain't have nothing to do with the coaches. They
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all three got good coaches. You know, they're the Lakers
in the Wars, their imaginarys I call them. We have
to make up stuff to get them in the playoffs.
The play in stuff is not eve a thing. That's
not even a thing. We just made it up, you know,
like like we normally have eight teams in the playoff.
Now let's let's let's find a way to get the
Lakers in the Wars in the playoffs. And then they
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both lose in the play in bull stuff, and so
they both they got to make some tough decisions. You know,
part of your job as a general managers make tough decisions.
And all three of those teams got to make some
tough decisions. Period.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, they don't fire the GM they fire the coach.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, but none of those situations have anything to do
with the coach, all right, none of them.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
What is the future of NBA on TNT your show.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I have zero idea, you know. It's so it's interesting
you asked me that question because I think today is
the deadline. I don't know. It's nerve racking for everybody.
It's very stressful, but I don't think anybody knows. Listen,
I love T and T. I hope we keep it.
(28:46):
I hope we keep it. I love T and T.
But right now, I think I talked to Ernie last
I talked to Ernie last night. I think they're going
to make a decision by the end of the day,
and I don't think any of us know what that
decision is going to be.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Now they have to match NBC's offer.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, but I don't think we know what's going to happen.
But it's very stressful at work right now.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But if the NBA goes away, are you a free agent? Yes,
is Shack.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I don't know their contract situations, but I made sure
because we had a disagreement. We had a disagreement when
I was redoing my deal two years ago about well
what happened if we lose to NBA, and they're like, well,
we don't know, and I said, well, what does that mean?
(29:42):
You don't know? And I want to put myself in
the best possible scenario, and I said I would like
I said, I want to be a free agent if
we lose to NBA. And they said, they said no way.
I said no. I said no, don't be a way.
And I said, I said, guys, I'm not signing a
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new contract unless I can be a free agent in
two years now. I want to make it clear. I
love T and T. I love everybody at T and T,
and they've been great for me. But I don't want
to be in limbo if we lose to lose to NBA.
That wouldn't be fair to me. Like there's no person
watching this shoe right now. I want to be like
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I don't have a job and know what I can do.
I wanted to make I said, I want to make
it perfectly get clear if y'all lose to NBA, I
want to be a free agent. So that's the situation now,
and I can say that I hope we signed the NBA.
I love TNT, but it's nerve. I can overhear right now.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You guys got a lot of power though, you and
Shaq and Kenny, if you guys want to I know
Ernie said, uh publicly that he wants to stay at TNT.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, we all want to stay at TND No, but if.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
The NBA leaves, Ernie said that he wants to stay
at t MT.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, I don't know how that. See. That's the thing, Dan,
none of us know how that works. They don't need me,
Ken and Ernie because he does other sports, Yes he
does baseball and things like that, but us other three,
that's that that's a great question because us other three
are screwed basically, not necessarily screwed. But we'll we won't
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have a job. No.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
NBC would then just say, guys, come on over.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, but I don't see. I don't know how that
works without Ernie, to be honest with you, and I
can't speak for NBC. I don't know if they want
all three of us.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
So I think so, I would think so.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, But like I say, our show won't be the
same without Ernie. Ernie is the most important person on
our show, yep. So so I don't that's the thing
that I.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Want to about. Adam leftko Oh, I love Adam.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Adam is great.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But but but hey, listen, I Adam, But I can't
be giving people.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Job, Dan, Yes you can, Yeah, I can.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, let's say listen. I don't know what Kenny and
Shaq listen. See, that's the thing that's really scary about
this whole scenario. I can't speak for Ernie. I can't
speak for Ernie, Kenny or Shaq. Yeah. Do I want
us to stay together? One hundred But I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Say can you can you try to speak for Shack.
Let me hear how that sounds?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Well, you know, Chuck, you know, if you want to,
you know, we got to find a way to stay together,
and you want to, we got to go to NBC
or Amazon and blah blah blah. You know, but you know, Dan,
it is And first of all, I want to make
this Clay. I feel bad for the people at T
and T. I feel bad for the people because if
we lose the NBA, the people who've been great to
be behind the scenes. You know, you know, we've merged,
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We've merged three times in the last five years, and
we fired hundreds of people, hundreds of people the last
five years. And we, like I said, we've merged three
times in the last five you and we fired hundreds
of people. If we lose the NBA, I can't imagine
how bad it's going to be a turning. But I
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really hope we keep the NBA. But man, I will
tell you we've been talking about it because you know,
this is the first time we haven't signed the deal
doing that exclusive window. We've always signed. It's never went
out for open bidding. Never in my twenty fourth I
(33:35):
think this is my twenty fourth year. Every single year
we've always signed doing the exclusive negotiating period. So it's
very stressful over here right now.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Great to talk to you, appreciate your brother.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Hey, what like you say? You know what's interesting about
this whole thing. They say that they're going to make
a decision by the end of the day. So what
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You got to work tonight, No, we're off tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
We got the game one Minnesota Denver tomorrow. ESPN has
the two games. So I'm gonna go and get drunk
on the golf course. Okay, I'm going to play golf.
I'm gonna get drunk as hell on the golf course.
And if they call me sometime today and tell me
I don't have a job, I'm gonna be sad. But
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I'm hoping they called me and tell me I still
got a job. But I'm gonna be drunk and playing
golf either way.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Who you playing with?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Them? Underdog and Alex, two of my T and T
buddies who are really concerned about their jobs.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
I might add lose some money to them. How's that
they both cheat? They both cheat? And I'm better than them, Dan,
and I'm better than you. I'm better than you.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
You are now okay?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Now I am? I am? I just want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And you got new glasses?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, you know, Shaq, Shaq's keep it being glasses now
he has these.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Are Mariana glasses that that looks like you know, when
Harry Carey used to do the games, those big they
looked like they were miniature TV sets that he screened.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Shout out, shout out to the great Harry carry I
missed him. But no man, Shaq Shaq has he imagine
that Shaq has I wear a deal so he gives
me all types of glass about.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It of course he is shack.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Of course he does.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Is he a billionaire?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
He's close, He's close. He's a great business man. He's
a great business man. I give him a lot of credit.
He's a great businessman. I don't know if he's a billionaire,
but he's in the neighborhood. He's right up the street.
Deed Patrick, shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Charles, Hey, Hey, none of us gonna have money if
we get fired.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
You're gonna be okay, Uh, Charles Barkley, NBA on Yeah,
I know that Peacock and NBC. They put a pretty
good bit out there, and I didn't know the deadline
was later today, but NBA on TNT, maybe NBA on NBC.
Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
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sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until
noon Eastern sixty nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR
or stream us live on the Peacock app. Coming up Sunday,
Liverpool and Tottenham face off. It's a must win match
times running out. Can the Reds fight their way back
to first place? Can the Spurs make a late push
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into the top four? Find out live May fifth at
eleven thirty am Eastern, exclusively on Peacock. We make the
smooth segue from the Premier League to the Premier League
host who's also hosting the Kentucky Derby. Rebecca Low joins us,
you got a lot of work down there. How are you?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I'm well, it's lovely to talk to you again. Also,
I'm a bit concerned. We've been doing this now on
and off for eleven years and we're still calling in
the spurs, Dan, I taught you better than that.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Just spurs, just spurs, just spurs. My bad. And it's
not the Premier League. It's Premier League.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
No, it's the Premier League.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh it is, okay, it is.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
You're good on that.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I knew you knew some stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I am in the brand new paddock at Churchill Downs
and the rain has just started to come down typical.
They've had one race I think already, and this is
our little Premier League studio where we're going to do
today's show and then the whole of tomorrow's show before
then we go on to the dobby coverage.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, okay, how much Now you obviously know the Premier League.
How much do you get immersed into Kentucky derby and
knowing everything that you need to know?
Speaker 7 (37:54):
I have to.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I mean, I always remember I was with you at
the Olympics in Sochi, and I was a little bit
overwhelmed because it was my first Olympics. I'd only been
at NBC for a few months, and you and I
were at dinner one night and I think I remember
saying to you, Dan, I the Winter Olympics in England,
not really a bit thing like, not quite sure what
I'm doing here, and you were like, take it hour
by hour. Do you remember you told me that take
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it hour by hour? And so similarly with this horse rating.
Of course is not my regular job, but I've done
as much prep as I can possibly squeeze in in
between all the Premier League things. I know what my
hits are going to be about. So I'm pretty ofane
all of those. And I'm as Dan Patrick one said
to me, I'm just gonna take it hour by hour tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
I think there's quite a few hours.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Also, I would say take it fifteen minutes at a time.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Yeah, well that's going to take forever. Seven am until
seven thirty pm.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Oh my goodness. Do you know what you're doing for
the Olympics. I do.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
I don't think I'm allowed to tell you.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
I think I'll get in big trouble, but I am.
I am going to the Olympics. Okay, I'm sorry, Dan,
I can't just just can't give you that exclusive today.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, So you're you're going to be hosting, you'll have
some hosting duties at the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
I will, I will.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
We will miss you because we had fun in Russia.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And then you dress differently for the derby, right.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yes, well no, no, no, I'm not Jennifer Lopez. I
don't get changed halfway through my day. I am in
the same dress tomorrow. This could be a disaster from
the beginning all the way to the end because as
soon as I get off Premier League, I'm literally running
to do my first hit on the derby. So it's
same hat, same dress. I'm very low budget and very
low budget.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay. Do you have an idea of celebrities who are
going to be there at Churchill Down.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I know that we have got a former World Series
winner with the Phillies from two thousand and eight, I
remember his name, but he's going to be here because
he's Jason.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Wab Yeah, Jason Informed. Yeah, he's got a horse running,
Jason Worth.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
Okay, so he's got yet.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
I I think there might be some other I think
I saw Oh gosh, I saw somebody Hollywood. Somebody told
me about yesterday. But mere pop culture down. We don't
go down. Well, So if I passed them somewhere in
the padder, I ain't going to know who they are.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Uh. Tom Brady might be there.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
Oh I know him. We've talked about him before.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Haven't we?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Is there a Tom Brady in England? Well?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I mean well, I was gonna say Harry Kane just
to hear you say Harry Kane again. But the thing
is the difference, unfortunately, is that Tom Brady's won everything
and Harry Kane's won absolutely nothing. So I suppose that
there isn't really an equivalent. Maybe maybe maybe Ala shit,
maybe Wayne Rooney, maybe Wayne Rooney.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
He won everything, scored a load of goals a bit.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Like Tom in his sport, not goals, but whatever he did. Yeah,
Harry Kane, how we go? I knew who was coming itself,
and you know he's left don't you, Dad, and you.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
Are up to speed with me.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
He's in Germany, isn't he.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
He is ripping it up in Germany over forty goals
this season, although unfortunately he waited forever at Tottenham to
win a trophy, decided to leave, has gone to Germany,
to the club that won the title in Germany for
the past ten years and this year didn't win it
just as he arrived.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
So it's an absolute killer for him. But yeah, forty
odd goals he's got so fun.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Were you bet on the race?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
I already know who. I'm betting on, Sierra Leone, which
is the second favorite. I think I don't normally go
for such short odds. Look at me with my racing lingo.
But I don't normally go for such short odds. But
I did happen to meet the owner this morning in
the Q for Starbucks, so we got chatting. Derek Smith
and I were now best sies. He's a huge Chelsea fans.
We taught mainly football. But if he wins tomorrow, I
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have to interview the owner in the winner circle. So
I've said to him, this is our chat, this is
our pre interview. We'll do the interview in the Winner Circle.
He wasn't that excited.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
About the interview. He said, it doesn't do a lot
of TV. I said, I don't really care.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Now we're best friends, I will be interviewing you in
the winner circle.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Derek, Does he know that you love Christal Pounds?
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Everybody knows, Dan, I mean everybody knows because I'm spreading
the word far and wide. I even found the Crystal
Palace fan right here at Churchill Downs yesterday. We are
getting everywhere it is. It is a movement. Who are
you betting on? By the way, who are you going
for in the derby?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I don't know. I really don't know. Okay, we had
somebody whose relative owns a horse that is is it
something Honor twenty to one? I think so? One of
my honor Marie on a Maria.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, so I probably would bet on that that horse
just because one of our listeners is going and somebody
own got the horse. The weather? Does weather play a role.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
In the horse racing?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah? Or event?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well? How about tomorrow specifically? Is to know the forecast?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
I think it's gonna be dry, the tracks really wet.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Well, I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I probably aren't you are you in Kentucky?
Speaker 5 (43:02):
I know, seriously, I need to brush up on my weather.
Where's Dylan Dryer when you need her? I think the
track is very muddy right now, but somebody told me
that the drainage is very good. It doesn't rain, it
doesn't rain again.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
And remember it's fahrenheit. It's fahrenheit. No Selsi, it's okay.
Speaker 7 (43:22):
Oh gosh, don't give me that.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
And also, by the way, yesterday we had a London
Derby and then I had to do a promo for
the Derby.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
I mean it was almost a complete.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Disaster because you don't want to say Derby when you
mean Derby, and you don't want to say Derby when
you mean Derby.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
I mean, let's be honest. I'm amazed I'm still here
because last year I did throw in a Derby during
the just twenty odd million people watching, and the English
girl just chucks in a Derby.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
God knows how I'm still got the shop.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
It is so Primary League tomorrow morning starts at what seven,
seven thirty seven Eastern?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
As always, when you get up I know you do
every Saturday.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I do, I do, I do, and then you'll get
the Derby and then you go till seven thirty or
seven o'clock tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Yep, that's it. I think it's seven thirty.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Yeah, so yeah, we're on air. Well, we've got you
all morning, and then the Manchester City game goes straight
into the on NBC, goes straight into the NBC coverage
that starts at two thirty, and then I'll nip over
onto that and then I'll be done with the with
the winning owner interview afterwards.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, we'll look forward to seeing that.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Okay, come down and visit one day. It's been too long.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Am I visiting where down in Kentucky? Or am I wherever?
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Wherever?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Can I just come and visit?
Speaker 7 (44:35):
Because yes, come come visit as an infecta.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
I haven't seen you in far too long in real life.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's great, it's great to talk to you, and thanks,
thanks for joining us. That's the Kentucky Darby coming up
tomorrow with your with your host Rebecca Low.
Speaker 9 (44:55):
Nobody covers the Derby.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Lie, No, nobody you want expert pick, No, we're giving
you entertainment. Does anybody have a pick on the Kentucky Derby? Yes, Todd,
I'm gonna go Mystic Dan because of Dan Patrick why
not let's go mistic Dan right behind Sierra Leone for
that would be a butt kisser.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Okay, right there?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
That is weak, Yeah, that is weak. Sauce. What do
you have, c I'm gonna go with just a touch,
just a touch, Marvin your pick.
Speaker 10 (45:32):
I'm gonna go. They call me this in school, just
steal really s t e a l No, no, no, no
st e el Okay, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Twenty to one stronghold. That sounds like a winning horse.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Strong.
Speaker 9 (45:51):
Know nothing about it at the eighteen eighteen hole. They
don't used to come out of there. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Sandwiched in between fierceness and resilience strong holds. I remember
being in New York and I would cover the Belmont
and the Preakness, and so I'd go down to Baltimore
and I'd cover that, and I did love the horse
racing people. If it was just I was over my
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skis because you're you're talking to like Woody Stevens, one
of the great trainers of all time, and you know,
you're you're trying to act like you know what you're
talking about, even though I did research, you know, I mean,
I thought I had good questions, and then I'd somehow
screw it up by some kind of lingo that I
used or didn't use, like I just did with Rebecca
calling them the Spurs old habits, NBA habits, die Hard Spurs.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
No, the.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's like Golf channel. It's not the Golf channel. NFL network,
it's not the NFL network. I found these things out.
Maybe I'm just sort of you know, i'd lean on
the word the a little too much. Yes, the Pauline.
Speaker 9 (46:59):
Do you think that's a like I'm gonna watch the
Bears or'm gonna watch the Cubs. You wouldn't say I'm
gonna tune in to watch Cubs this weekend. It sounds weird.
It sounds like you're leaving something out. Well, they are
the Reds, aren't they? They are this in the Premier League.
But their title is Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
No, No, the Premier League. Oh the Reds. Oh is there
a the I don't Seaton? Are they known as the Reds?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Liverpool is the Reds? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
But why is Tottenham Spurs not the Spurs? Tottenham hot
Spur but not the hot Spur.
Speaker 9 (47:33):
But if you say Reds are coming in town to
play Chelsea or would be the Reds are coming down
to play Chelsea with if you're for a Liverpool.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I don't know the Magpies, Oh Magpies, that's Newcastle. Let
me get a couple of Tommy and Oregon. Hey Tommy,
how are you today?
Speaker 8 (47:50):
Good morning dance, second time, longtime, five nine top pounds soft.
I picked the last two winters the Kentucky Derby, including
an eighty to one love it, yeah, but it was
a two dollars bet.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Okay, here we go. Tommy in Oregon is going to
tell you who's gonna win the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Forever.
Speaker 8 (48:14):
I get ten to one.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Dan, all right, we're gonna write it down. Maybe you'll
throw you know. Dylan the graphics guy. We did the
Gambling podcast yesterday. I think those knuckleheads they picked their Kentucky.
I think they did an exact or something, but they
were they were picking their their Derby. It's very good. Yeah,
thank you Dylman. Yeah, Dylan, Dylan bat Larry and Shyan Irving.
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The Gambling Podcast. I thought maybe we'd send the show there,
but I guess not. It was a it's a wild podcast.
It is, and there are times when I tell Ray,
the producer. He said, can you get me something that
I can play on the show on Friday? And he goes,
(49:02):
you know, I couldn't really find anything that was appropriate
to play on the show. And I go, okay, I'll
just tell if you're listening to the podcast, don't have
I mean, it's not safe for work. It's but our
children or maybe your wife, you know. Once Shay gets
going and then Dylan jumps in and then they make
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fun of bad Larry and then all hell breaks loose
after that.
Speaker 9 (49:28):
Yes, Marv, yeah, yesterday after the podcast you were like
Amark part.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, re goes. Do you think we
should keep that in? I go, no, no, we're not going.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
To keep that in.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Celebrity birthdays today, Greg Gumbels seventy eight. No, yes, Gumby
is seventy eight. No, good for him, Frankie Valley ninety s.
They'll do it, yeah, Christopher Cross seventy three, Christina Hendricks
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Mad Men forty nine, Willie Geist Today's Show forty nine,
Eric Church forty seven, Bobby kind of Valet fifty four.
The actor. Isn't he married to Rose Burne?
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Remember he saw her in person? Rose burned my retinas.
She was. She was thank you for having me. I know.
That's she came up to me and she's like, you know,
I just said hi, you know, blah blah blah. She goes,
thank you, thank you for having me. And I didn't
know what to say.
Speaker 9 (50:41):
I put this all together. Yes, is that the best
looking woman you've ever seen in person? Where you like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Goodness, No, I go home every day, Paul, nice, thank you,
thank you. Shout out to my brother Bill, his birthday
today as well.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah he's one hundred. Yeah, he's a hundred. You know
I I, uh no, I can't do this. I already
told the story to the dan Ets uh where I
had somebody critiquing my look yesterday. But I but I
can't do that. When I was outside, oh yeah too late.
Speaker 9 (51:16):
Now I think you kind of opened the door.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Why don't you go home? Phyllis all right, Yeah, it
was that.
Speaker 9 (51:21):
What was a hypothetical story.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
The hypothetical story was somebody said, oh, my gun, I
saw you walk out to get the mail, and you
look like such an old man, and I go oh.
And then the person said, and I saw you the
other day, and I go that's not Dan. He looks
so fat and I, you know, boy, I'm happy. I
you know, I stopped by to say hello, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 9 (51:45):
Like if my neighbor was a close buddy drinking buddy
friend and they said those kind of comments to me,
it's like your buddy could say stuff. I'm guessing this
neighbor is not that close to you. Well, I mean
like as a.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, but you get to a certain age where you
just say whatever you want to say.
Speaker 9 (52:02):
Oh, no, turn thing on.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, Like my mom she would just go, well that's
how I feel, and I go, Mom. I mean, these
people are a little bit older, and they probably were
just being honest with me that I look like I
was really old, barely making it out to the mailbox,
and that I looked fat. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (52:24):
Well, here's the thing. Whatever you want to say about you,
fat would not be a word I would even consider. Well,
now you do wear hoodie.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Sometimes they did say I was wearing loose or baggy clothes.
Speaker 9 (52:34):
That's a completely different word choice though.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
But when you say and we thought, I can't be
you because you look fat and full or husky maybe,
but not fat. I don't alright, if you're like yeah,
and I do get along with these people. There's anymore
I know, I do, I do. I just was kind
of taken aback by it.
Speaker 9 (52:57):
Why don't you try it back next time you see it.
I just say, like, you guys are still around at
your age.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Ye, yes, Charles, I saw you trying to cross the driveway.
Everything okay. Well, one one said, hey, I'm not getting old,
I'm old, and I thought that that was, you know,
fair enough line. Yes, Marph, do.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
They go to the Christmas party?
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Esther, you're about to get it.
Speaker 9 (53:18):
No, no, no, image, you've been hit the buffet
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Milwaukee Bucks sent packing by the Pacers. Rick
Carlinle third season as the Pacers head coach, joining us
on the program. Go back a week when you heard
that Giannis was not going to be able to play,
might be limited. What adjustments did you make?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, you know, a couple of the adjustments had to
be with any notion that it was then going to
be an easy task to try to beat these guys
because they have veteran experience, they're a proud team, They've
got a lot of physical toughness, and so, you know,
it was just it was uncertain.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, I.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Think Giannas's injury it happened about eight to ten days
before serious was going to start. Seemed pretty clear that
he probably wouldn't play the first game, maybe the first
two games, but there was a lot of just stuff
lying around.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It was he just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And then so that was something and they were, you know,
you know, the not not unpredictably.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
There was I think their team fed the little.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The missing the the information, you know, pathways a little bit.
There was a lot of rumors about this, rumors about that,
so you know, it became, in a way, a different
kind of challenge.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What's the differences between playoff coaching and regular season coaching?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, Dan, the playoffs are insanity. I mean it's you know,
I and I. You know, Steve Nash once said this,
it's the playoffs are so intense and so emotional that
when you win a game in the playoffs, it's you
get so exuberant, you feel like you're never going to
lose again, And when you lose a game in the playoffs,
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you feel like you're never gonna win again.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I mean, it's that it's that extreme.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And so.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You know, you can have some big games in the
in the regular season. This year, you know, the n
Season Tournament added to the intensity level a pretty significant amount,
you know, back in November December, But there's nothing like
the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
When you guys get done with your win, you close
out the bucks, how quickly do you turn on the
next game?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, I.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Drove home, which is about twenty five minute drive, and
then turn it on and watched, you know, whatever was
left of the third quarter and the fourth And I
mean you talk about ups and downs, I mean the
stuff that was going on in that series was it
was crazy. I mean, you know, Phillies down eight with
like two minutes to go when they tie it, you know,
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last night, and then in game five, I mean, we
go out, we go out for our game five, which
was after the nixt Game five. You know, I left
the locker room in Milwaukee to go out for our game,
and you know, New York was up six with like
forty five seconds left, and he just said, okay, well
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the NIXT one. And then you find out after the
game they lost it over time, like what. But that's
that's how that's how crazy things can be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Who does Jalen Brunson remind you of.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, that's a great question. He's a he's he's forged
out a you know, a niche in in in the
NBA and really in league history, in nick history, which
is you know, very very very unique. You know, there's
there's a little bit of Steve Nash. I suppose there's
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some James Harden, There's some you know, I you know,
I could go on and on. I mean, there's some
Dame Lillard, there's some there's a lot, there's a lot
of different elements. But he's he's doing something that is
very uniquely him. And you know, I know Jalen well
because we had him for his first couple of years
when I was when I was in Dallas. He's just
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he's a He's a guy that is has extremely strong
belief in himself, and you know, New York has turned
him loose, you know, to really go and just take
it to whatever extreme he can take it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And so it's been amazing to watch.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm very very happy for him, very proud of him,
and very much not looking forward playing coaching against him.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We're talking to Rick Carlisle, the Pacers head coach, and
then you have Tyrese Haliburton. Do you allow him the
same kind of freedom that the Knicks do with Brunson.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, I think it's pretty evident that we do.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I mean, you know, Tyree's runs the team, he calls
the plays, he has the latitude to be as aggressive
as he deems necessary offensively, and I just I'm just
a believer that if you have if you have special
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players like a Tyresee or a Brunson, you know, or
a Doncis, which I who I coached for three years,
you know, you you've got a rare opportunity to allow
these guys, you know, to have the keys.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And when you do that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And empower them, you know, great things, great things can happen.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
What was your reaction or opinion first time you saw Luca.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
In person? The first time I saw him in person was.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, he he he didn't play in the Summer League.
We we we felt that, you know, since he he
would get gone through to two euro the EuroLeague and
one of the other leagues. They have like different trophies.
It's similar, it's somewhat similar to soccer over there. But
his season is is the last part of his season
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ended like a couple of days before the draft, and
so we just felt that, you know, having him jump
into Summer League from the draft would have would have
been a mistake from a physical fatigue standpoint, So we
held him out. He said on the bench during the
Summer League he wanted, he wanted to play, and you know,
we just we just said, you know, this is not
the right thing. And so the first time I saw
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him play in person was in a pickup game that
fall in twenty eighteen, and he he came in and
you know, we had signed DeAndre Jordan, we had you know,
Wes Matthews. We had who else, Harrison Barnes was on
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the team. We had the makings of a of a
of a of a pretty good team. And he came
in and and he was He played the pickup game
like Magic Johnson. He passed the ever loving crap out
he was he was getting every rebound. He scored some,
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but he was just absolutely controlling the game with vision, passing,
you know, a few shots here and there, and you know,
I watched this and I said, Jesus, this guy's this
guy's actually a point guard. We weren't sure he played
point in the in in his team at Real Madrid,
but you're just never sure how it's all going to
(07:41):
translate to the NBA. But you know, on day one,
it was clear that that he was that he was
a point guard. And so, you know, then from there,
figuring out how how to kind of take that in
the direction that needed to go was was a little
challenging because we had Dennis Smith Junior, who was a
young player, very talented too. So but that was what
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day one looked like. And then once we got into
the season, you know, you know, Luca found out that
you know, he could really score. I mean, it's scoring
became very easy to him in the NBA. And you'd
have to ask him this, but I think I think
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he probably would say that, you know, he just he wasn't.
He didn't realize coming in that he would would have
been able to impact the game scoring wise the way
he did.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And so he was.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He was a super dynamic from from day one.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And obviously you know he's with a finalist for for
m v P now and if it doesn't happen this year,
it'll it's going to happen soon.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Who's the best shooter in the building? Which building like
your your practice? How about the city of Indianapolis? Who's
the best shooter in town?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Boy, it'd be hard, it'd be hard not to say
that it's Tyree Saliburton right now. Now, if you know
Freddie Miller was in town.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It might be a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
What's that Caitlin Clark? Is she factor in?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She fact chief factors in? This is a trick question.
I knew, I knew you'd hit me with one of these,
but I I I've gotta I've gotta lean toward my
team just because you know, these these are these are
my guys. But uh, you know, Caitlin being on the
scene is is really cool too. And the city I
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think part of part of the buzz around our city
and our team, you know, comes a little bit with
the buzz of her arriving in town as well.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Is Bird still in town? Do you see him often?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Uh? From time to time? Yeah, he I don't know
if he's back in Indiana yet. He's in Florida in
the winner and then he'll be back at his ranch
and uh in uh in in southern Indiana sometime soon.
But uh, if you're asking if he's in the conversation
for best shooter, I think I think that's an obvious.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, I'm sure that he would still think he's the
best shooter.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I know and I know, I know you're gonna
probably ask me about the left handed scoring thing.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You asked me about that one other time.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So if that was against Portland, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
That was against Portland.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It was it was if it was about left handed
jump shooting, you know, if you're righty and he'd be,
you know, he would he'd.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Win that contest.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, imagine if Luca said I'm going to take just
left handed shots in a game. How would you have
reacted to that if you were his coach?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, knowing what I know about Luca, I would have
let him do whatever he felt the right, you know,
the right.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Thing at the time.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like I can't tell you the amount of money I
lost Luca betting against and making half court shots in practice.
I mean, you know, like coach, you know, you know,
you know, I'm not gonna give you. I'm not gonna
give you the amount of money. One out of one,
out of three, one out of three. I was like, yeah,
no way. And then he makes the first or second
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one like every time. I mean, it was, it was.
It was absolutely uncanny, and you know he just Luka
was one of the was one of those guys that
all all he can ever see is how something is
going to happen, like and like doubt never never seemed
to enter his mind at all, and therefore, you know,
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he never thinks about missing and so you know, a
lot of these guys are very unwilling to take you know,
these end of quarter you know, full court heaves, and
you know it's interesting, Dan, Like I was on some
committees you know over the years where you know, we
talked about this, and you know, some people said, well,
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why don't we just come up with a rule where
if a guy takes a shot at the end of
the quarter beyond half court and it misses, it doesn't
count as a field goal attempt. You know, then then
you won't have all this you know, holding on the
ball till the red light goes on and then flinging
it knowing it didn't count.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And then and then we talked about it, and then,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
One of the things I said was, if we do that,
you're going to have guys getting the ball with seven
seconds left in the back court, keeping it in the
back court, keeping it behind the line, behind the half
court line, so that on the on the on the
chance that it doesn't go in, they.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Don't get a they don't get a field goal at ten.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Oh, So that's all stat related that these guys don't
want to take these shots.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, and you're really seriously asking that question.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well, I'm surprised that. I mean, these guys just shoot, That's.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No. But but in the case of in the case
of Luca, in the case of Tyres, I had Darryl
Armstrong for one year as a player, and Darryl Daryl
took it as a personal challenge and he made.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Two or three of them from like sixty feet. And
I'm saying, like, if you, if you took, if you
eliminated all.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The you know, full and three quarter court heaves that
Luca takes and Tyreese takes, these guys would be shooting
him like they're already shooting a great percentage from three.
I mean it would be like exponentially higher. So there's
a different wiring for for some of these guys. And
Bert was the same way. Bert would shoot it every time.
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But you know, you see a lot of guys at
the end of at the end of the commerce, they
hang on to it and then you know they hear
the buzzer, red leg goes on, and then they like
that then they fling it up there.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
When did carrying get out of control? Carrying carrying the ball?
I mean, we're already past traveling, But like I go
back to Stockton and Iverson, it felt like they were
the first guys and now everybody carries the basketball.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Why is that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Said bother me? I love I love this show.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And you were my mentor at ESPN, which is one
of the reasons I've had such a great broadcasting career, probably,
But I'm not into a fifty or sixty thousand dollars
fine talking.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
About oh oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I know this is a very highly rated show.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But it's the concept. It's not the reps. It's that
we've we've allowed it in college, in high school. How
about you can be the anti carrying chairman.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
As if you're one of the ones that this responsible.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It bothers me, It bothers me.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I don't see it as as as that big of
that bigger problem. And you mean we had to carry
call on Tyres in Game five or something like this,
and so it still gets called I think. I think
the bigger thing is that players have adjusted to it,
and I don't think players carry the ball as much
as they did and perhaps in the old days. You know,
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traveling is another is another big challenge. But the league
has made a point of it. I think they've done
a better.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Job with it.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You're not gonna get fined, I won't now, But there
was a chance you were headed down that path. Did
I ever tell you when I got Steve Kerr fined
accidentally did you ever tell me?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I probably saw it on you know, your Instagram stuff
comes up all the time, so you know I may
have seen it.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He I think I cost him twenty five grand. He
was the GM of the Suns and I was asking
him about maybe, hey, you got the mid level exemption
for Lebron and he talked about that and he wasn't
allowed to talk about like he was joking, and the
commissioner find him twenty five grand.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Mean, you know, after the after the Indiana Fever got
the first pick, you know, I got a couple of questions, Hey,
what do you think.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
About Caitlin Clark? You know?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And then I said, well, I gotta be careful about
what I say because I don't want to violate any
rules here. But you know, I can't get enough of
these step back forty footers. I mean, this is this
is the best watching watching her play, you know. So
we're obviously looking forward to they played pretty soon. Yeah
they jump right into this thing. But but anyway, yeah,
(16:34):
I know.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I look, I there are certain things you gotta be careful.
I know I'm tugging about.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I know, all right, we'll rest that voice for
Monday against the Knicks. You're gonna need it in the garden.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Appreciate that. Good to see as always.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Thank you. Rick. That's Rick Carlo, Pacers head coach, two
time NBA champ. He was there with the eighty six
Celtics and coach of the Mavericks twenty eleven. All right,
let me take a break here. Thanks for listening to
The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us
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Charles Barkley, NBA on TNT. Has Patrick beverly played his
last game in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
No, but he gonna get a really good suspension because
you know, he fired that ball in there twice, hit
that lady in the head, which you know, I'm a
really big domestic person man. You can never hit a
woman on the end of circumstances. So he's going to
get a big suspension for that. And then he fired
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it in there twice. And I don't care what anybody
said to you. You cannot do that period.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think you send him to the Wizards and then
you punish him that way.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That is a punishment. But no, man, you know I've
always liked Patrick Beverly, But man, you can't, like I say, man,
you know, I've always had this theme going with the
NBA about domestic violence under those circumstances, can you ever
put your hands on a woman? And he hit that
poor woman in the face with that ball the first time,
then he did it again, throwing it back in the stands.
(18:24):
So listen, I've done stupid things like that where I
got arrested, got fighting with fans, and I was one
hundred percent wrong, one hundred percent wrong. But you can't
do that under any circumstances.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
All right, Are the Knicks a great team?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
No? No, Bronson is a great player. He's unbelievable. You know,
everybody gave me a lot of hard time this year
when I said that's one of the great free agent
signings of all time. You know, Kenny says, like, what
about Lebron and what about kd I Seyeah, those guys
are all time great. But Bronson is one of the
great signs in NBA history. I don't even think the
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Knicks thought he was going to be as good. The
Knicks did even think that. Yeah, they thought when they
sign him, there's no way they thought he was going
to be as great as a player. So, hey, man,
he's a great kid. I don't know him well, but
I'm happy for him. Period.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Sometimes when you have that team that you know the
sum of the parts makes it a really good team.
They're not necessarily a talented team, but they know what
to do and when to do it. And I think
that that's those are dangerous teams sometimes where sometimes you
rely on stars. Other times its just everybody knows we
have to do this every single night. We can't take
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knights off.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well. I think that the one thing I always say,
every player at the NBA is a good player. Every
player and the player. They're not all all stars the superstars,
but everybody can Everybody in the NBA is a good player,
and you factor in. He's that guy. Every team has
a guy who everybody follows. That's what makes them dangerous.
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Now I'm saying that I'm taking the Pacers. I you know,
I'm taking the Pacers in that next series. You know,
the two things, the two things I said earlier this year,
the Pacers getting Ziakam and the MAVs getting gafferd and PJ.
Those were the two best trade deadlines, the deals that happened.
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I still feel really good about my prediction. I think
the Pacers and the MAVs are the two most dangerous
teams left in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Wait, you got the MAVs going to the Western you know,
representing the Western Conference in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I do not. I didn't do that. I'm saying though,
that they had the best. Getting Gaffered and PJ made
them dangerous. Listen, I think listen, I gotta tell you something, man,
OKC in Minnesota, Man, what they're doing is incredible. We
got the first game tomorrow or the MAVs the stunt,
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the bath, excuse me us Tonight the Nuggets against Minnesota
is a heavyweight slugfest. I got a zero idea who
gonna win that series. But that's a big boy matchup.
I can't wait to get it started tomorrow. I think
Okac beats whoever comes out of the MAVs cluper series.
I do. But I love what the MAVs did getting
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Gafford and PJ. But I love Okac I think they're
gonna win that bracket. And man, I'm really excited about
this the Nuggets. I'm really excited about them against Minnesota
because that is a big boys series.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
When can we start making any kind of comparison with
Anthony Edwards to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh in five to ten years.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh, I can't do anything now of starting his career
in Mike. Starting his career.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, Mike average. People forget he averaged thirty eight a
game back back when you could really knock the hell
out of people. He have his thirty eight points a game.
People forget that. And then you know Anthony, who I love.
I love he don't have to go through the bad
boy pisson when they just beat the hell out of
you three or four years in a row. I love
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Anthony Edwards. I love his mentality. I love One of
the best things I seen on television this year was
when he was with Scott Van Pelt and he says,
I'm just gonna kill everything in front of me. I
haven't seen but two players in my NBA career but
said that, and that's Michael and Kobe. They didn't care
about anybody, they didn't want any friends. They didn't want
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any front ofies. They just wanted to kill everything in
front of them. I love Anthony Edwards. He's my favorite
player in the NBA now because all these guys out
here want to hug and kids and seen Kumbayer, Anthonywis
just want to kill everything in front of him. I
love watching him play.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Isaiah never tried to kiss you, did he we.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Isaiah's was you know. I feel bad for Isaiah because
he's the as little man ever until Steph Curry. He
never probably got the credit or respect that he deserved,
and so I feel bad about it. Love. I got
an of respect for Isaiah because, like I say, he's
the best look until Steph Curry came along. And I'll
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be honest with you. If I was in a game,
if I had to choose, and I love Steph Curry,
and I know people gonna go to the internet because
they ain't got no life. If I had to choose
between Steph Curry and UH and Isaiah, I'd probably go
with Isaiah in a in a scenario. But I love Steph.
I love Isaiah. But if I had one guy, if
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I had to choose between those two, I'm not going
to ever choose against Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Were you involved in the discussions with the Olympic team
of not winning Isaiah? Were you around that conversation?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Never? They never asked me.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You never heard did you hear it?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Never? Never? You know, So I'm glad you asked me
that beause every time I hear that BS like.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Man, they never asked me, said Isaiah have been on
the team, probably, but I don't. I was never asked.
And well, I mean, like I said, obviously, you know
it's come out a couple of times if Michael didn't
want him on the team. I think Jack McCallen came
out with a quote last year saying, and he had
it on the record that Michael didn't want Isaiah on
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the team. That's between them. But no, I was never
asked about Isaiah on the Dream.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Team seventy six ers going forward. They got cap space
and they got draft picks. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
What are you gonna do? I think they're in a
great situation. They got to get Joel healthy. But and
maxi Is turned into a star right before our eyes. So, man,
you know it's funny. I asked for a list. I
asked for a list last night of the most available
free agents, and there's some interest and names on there,
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Paul George og and a new Bay Pascal see Akham.
So they gonna have some choices because Joel is an MVP,
Maxie is an emerging star. I think Philip Davis done
a great situation going forward, But they got to find
the right guy because if they get the right guy, man,
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they gonna be a contender. Because let me tell you something.
I said this on the air, the Boston Celtics are
probably going to be the favorite to win the NBA
Championship for the next five to seven years. They are,
you know, Jason and Jalen, they're both like, I think
they're twenty three or twenty four. They just signed Drew
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Holliday for the next four years. I don't think for
Zingers is older. So they're going to be the favorite
going into this. You know, obviously Denver's right there because
the joker, he's the best player in the world. But
the Celtics are going to be the favorite for the
next five years or in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Talking to Charles Barkley, the Hall of Famer feel better
about the Lakers or Warriors going forward.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
As radio said both. I don't feel good about either.
They both stink, and I know what they're gonna do.
They gonna throw the coach off the bus overboard. Excuse me,
it's not Darvin Ham. It's not Darvin Ham or Frank Vogel.
That the reason that the Warriors and the Lakers suck.
The Warriors got old. That happens you get old. Well,
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first of all, you hope you get old or you're dead.
So the Warriors got old and the Lakers got old too,
so there's nothing you can do about that, but neither
one of them, and it really bothered me. I went
off a couple of months ago about all these jackasses
and idiots on other networks that who's gonna make a run.
The Lakers are the Warriors, I said, neither neither gonna
make a run either. Want them are any good? And
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uh and they and they're not any good going forward
unless they do something drastic.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
How do you feel about the Suns moving forward?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, they're really do they're they're probably they're probably worse.
They're probably worse, and I know they're gonna probably throw
Frank Vogel on the overboard. It's not his fault.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He just got there.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I know. But you know what, we're in a generation
where these players, if you say anything about them, they're sensitive,
and it's always the coach's fault. That's the one thing
I hate about the game today. It's, well, it's the
coach's fault. I'm like, well, the Lakers they're not any good.
The Wars aren't any good, The Sons aren't any good.
They ain't have nothing to do with the coaches. They
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all three got good coaches. You know, they're the Lakers
in the Wars, their imaginarys I call them. We have
to make up stuff to get them in the playoffs.
The play in stuff is not eve a thing. That's
not even a thing. We just made it up, you know,
like like we normally have eight teams in the playoff.
Now let's let's let's find a way to get the
Lakers in the Wars in the playoffs. And then they
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both lose in the play in bull stuff, and so
they both they got to make some tough decisions. You know,
part of your job as a general managers make tough decisions.
And all three of those teams got to make some
tough decisions. Period.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, they don't fire the GM they fire the coach.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, but none of those situations have anything to do
with the coach, all right, none of them.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
What is the future of NBA on TNT your show.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I have zero idea, you know. It's so it's interesting
you asked me that question because I think today is
the deadline. I don't know. It's nerve racking for everybody.
It's very stressful, but I don't think anybody knows. Listen,
I love T and T. I hope we keep it.
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I hope we keep it. I love T and T.
But right now, I think I talked to Ernie last
I talked to Ernie last night. I think they're going
to make a decision by the end of the day,
and I don't think any of us know what that
decision is going to be.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Now they have to match NBC's offer.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, but I don't think we know what's going to happen.
But it's very stressful at work right now.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But if the NBA goes away, are you a free agent? Yes,
is Shack.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I don't know their contract situations, but I made sure
because we had a disagreement. We had a disagreement when
I was redoing my deal two years ago about well
what happened if we lose to NBA, and they're like, well,
we don't know, and I said, well, what does that mean?
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You don't know? And I want to put myself in
the best possible scenario, and I said I would like
I said, I want to be a free agent if
we lose to NBA. And they said, they said no way.
I said no. I said no, don't be a way.
And I said, I said, guys, I'm not signing a
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new contract unless I can be a free agent in
two years now. I want to make it clear. I
love T and T. I love everybody at T and T,
and they've been great for me. But I don't want
to be in limbo if we lose to lose to NBA.
That wouldn't be fair to me. Like there's no person
watching this shoe right now. I want to be like
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I don't have a job and know what I can do.
I wanted to make I said, I want to make
it perfectly get clear if y'all lose to NBA, I
want to be a free agent. So that's the situation now,
and I can say that I hope we signed the NBA.
I love TNT, but it's nerve. I can overhear right now.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You guys got a lot of power though, you and
Shaq and Kenny, if you guys want to I know
Ernie said, uh publicly that he wants to stay at TNT.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, we all want to stay at TND No, but if.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
The NBA leaves, Ernie said that he wants to stay
at t MT.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, I don't know how that. See. That's the thing, Dan,
none of us know how that works. They don't need me,
Ken and Ernie because he does other sports, Yes he
does baseball and things like that, but us other three,
that's that that's a great question because us other three
are screwed basically, not necessarily screwed. But we'll we won't
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have a job. No.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
NBC would then just say, guys, come on over.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, but I don't see. I don't know how that
works without Ernie, to be honest with you, and I
can't speak for NBC. I don't know if they want
all three of us.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
So I think so, I would think so.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, But like I say, our show won't be the
same without Ernie. Ernie is the most important person on
our show, yep. So so I don't that's the thing
that I.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Want to about. Adam leftko Oh, I love Adam.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Adam is great.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But but but hey, listen, I Adam, But I can't
be giving people.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Job, Dan, Yes you can, Yeah, I can.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, let's say listen. I don't know what Kenny and
Shaq listen. See, that's the thing that's really scary about
this whole scenario. I can't speak for Ernie. I can't
speak for Ernie, Kenny or Shaq. Yeah. Do I want
us to stay together? One hundred But I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Say can you can you try to speak for Shack.
Let me hear how that sounds?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Well, you know, Chuck, you know, if you want to,
you know, we got to find a way to stay together,
and you want to, we got to go to NBC
or Amazon and blah blah blah. You know, but you know, Dan,
it is And first of all, I want to make
this Clay. I feel bad for the people at T
and T. I feel bad for the people because if
we lose the NBA, the people who've been great to
be behind the scenes. You know, you know, we've merged,
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We've merged three times in the last five years, and
we fired hundreds of people, hundreds of people the last
five years. And we, like I said, we've merged three
times in the last five you and we fired hundreds
of people. If we lose the NBA, I can't imagine
how bad it's going to be a turning. But I
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really hope we keep the NBA. But man, I will
tell you we've been talking about it because you know,
this is the first time we haven't signed the deal
doing that exclusive window. We've always signed. It's never went
out for open bidding. Never in my twenty fourth I
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think this is my twenty fourth year. Every single year
we've always signed doing the exclusive negotiating period. So it's
very stressful over here right now.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Great to talk to you, appreciate your brother.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Hey, what like you say? You know what's interesting about
this whole thing. They say that they're going to make
a decision by the end of the day. So what
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You got to work tonight, No, we're off tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
We got the game one Minnesota Denver tomorrow. ESPN has
the two games. So I'm gonna go and get drunk
on the golf course. Okay, I'm going to play golf.
I'm gonna get drunk as hell on the golf course.
And if they call me sometime today and tell me
I don't have a job, I'm gonna be sad. But
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I'm hoping they called me and tell me I still
got a job. But I'm gonna be drunk and playing
golf either way.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Who you playing with?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Them? Underdog and Alex, two of my T and T
buddies who are really concerned about their jobs.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
I might add lose some money to them. How's that
they both cheat? They both cheat? And I'm better than them, Dan,
and I'm better than you. I'm better than you.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
You are now okay?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Now I am? I am? I just want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And you got new glasses?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, you know, Shaq, Shaq's keep it being glasses now
he has these.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Are Mariana glasses that that looks like you know, when
Harry Carey used to do the games, those big they
looked like they were miniature TV sets that he screened.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Shout out, shout out to the great Harry carry I
missed him. But no man, Shaq Shaq has he imagine
that Shaq has I wear a deal so he gives
me all types of glass about.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It of course he is shack.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Of course he does.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Is he a billionaire?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
He's close, He's close. He's a great business man. He's
a great business man. I give him a lot of credit.
He's a great businessman. I don't know if he's a billionaire,
but he's in the neighborhood. He's right up the street.
Deed Patrick, shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Charles, Hey, Hey, none of us gonna have money if
we get fired.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
You're gonna be okay, Uh, Charles Barkley, NBA on Yeah,
I know that Peacock and NBC. They put a pretty
good bit out there, and I didn't know the deadline
was later today, but NBA on TNT, maybe NBA on NBC.
Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
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sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until
noon Eastern sixty nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR
or stream us live on the Peacock app. Coming up Sunday,
Liverpool and Tottenham face off. It's a must win match
times running out. Can the Reds fight their way back
to first place? Can the Spurs make a late push
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into the top four? Find out live May fifth at
eleven thirty am Eastern, exclusively on Peacock. We make the
smooth segue from the Premier League to the Premier League
host who's also hosting the Kentucky Derby. Rebecca Low joins us,
you got a lot of work down there. How are you?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I'm well, it's lovely to talk to you again. Also,
I'm a bit concerned. We've been doing this now on
and off for eleven years and we're still calling in
the spurs, Dan, I taught you better than that.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Just spurs, just spurs, just spurs. My bad. And it's
not the Premier League. It's Premier League.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
No, it's the Premier League.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh it is, okay, it is.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
You're good on that.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I knew you knew some stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I am in the brand new paddock at Churchill Downs
and the rain has just started to come down typical.
They've had one race I think already, and this is
our little Premier League studio where we're going to do
today's show and then the whole of tomorrow's show before
then we go on to the dobby coverage.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, okay, how much Now you obviously know the Premier League.
How much do you get immersed into Kentucky derby and
knowing everything that you need to know?
Speaker 7 (37:54):
I have to.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I mean, I always remember I was with you at
the Olympics in Sochi, and I was a little bit
overwhelmed because it was my first Olympics. I'd only been
at NBC for a few months, and you and I
were at dinner one night and I think I remember
saying to you, Dan, I the Winter Olympics in England,
not really a bit thing like, not quite sure what
I'm doing here, and you were like, take it hour
by hour. Do you remember you told me that take
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it hour by hour? And so similarly with this horse rating.
Of course is not my regular job, but I've done
as much prep as I can possibly squeeze in in
between all the Premier League things. I know what my
hits are going to be about. So I'm pretty ofane
all of those. And I'm as Dan Patrick one said
to me, I'm just gonna take it hour by hour tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
I think there's quite a few hours.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Also, I would say take it fifteen minutes at a time.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Yeah, well that's going to take forever. Seven am until
seven thirty pm.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Oh my goodness. Do you know what you're doing for
the Olympics. I do.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
I don't think I'm allowed to tell you.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
I think I'll get in big trouble, but I am.
I am going to the Olympics. Okay, I'm sorry, Dan,
I can't just just can't give you that exclusive today.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, So you're you're going to be hosting, you'll have
some hosting duties at the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
I will, I will.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
We will miss you because we had fun in Russia.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And then you dress differently for the derby, right.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yes, well no, no, no, I'm not Jennifer Lopez. I
don't get changed halfway through my day. I am in
the same dress tomorrow. This could be a disaster from
the beginning all the way to the end because as
soon as I get off Premier League, I'm literally running
to do my first hit on the derby. So it's
same hat, same dress. I'm very low budget and very
low budget.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay. Do you have an idea of celebrities who are
going to be there at Churchill Down.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I know that we have got a former World Series
winner with the Phillies from two thousand and eight, I
remember his name, but he's going to be here because
he's Jason.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Wab Yeah, Jason Informed. Yeah, he's got a horse running,
Jason Worth.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
Okay, so he's got yet.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
I I think there might be some other I think
I saw Oh gosh, I saw somebody Hollywood. Somebody told
me about yesterday. But mere pop culture down. We don't
go down. Well, So if I passed them somewhere in
the padder, I ain't going to know who they are.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Uh. Tom Brady might be there.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
Oh I know him. We've talked about him before.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Haven't we?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Is there a Tom Brady in England? Well?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I mean well, I was gonna say Harry Kane just
to hear you say Harry Kane again. But the thing
is the difference, unfortunately, is that Tom Brady's won everything
and Harry Kane's won absolutely nothing. So I suppose that
there isn't really an equivalent. Maybe maybe maybe Ala shit,
maybe Wayne Rooney, maybe Wayne Rooney.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
He won everything, scored a load of goals a bit.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Like Tom in his sport, not goals, but whatever he did. Yeah,
Harry Kane, how we go? I knew who was coming itself,
and you know he's left don't you, Dad, and you.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
Are up to speed with me.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
He's in Germany, isn't he.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
He is ripping it up in Germany over forty goals
this season, although unfortunately he waited forever at Tottenham to
win a trophy, decided to leave, has gone to Germany,
to the club that won the title in Germany for
the past ten years and this year didn't win it
just as he arrived.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
So it's an absolute killer for him. But yeah, forty
odd goals he's got so fun.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Were you bet on the race?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
I already know who. I'm betting on, Sierra Leone, which
is the second favorite. I think I don't normally go
for such short odds. Look at me with my racing lingo.
But I don't normally go for such short odds. But
I did happen to meet the owner this morning in
the Q for Starbucks, so we got chatting. Derek Smith
and I were now best sies. He's a huge Chelsea fans.
We taught mainly football. But if he wins tomorrow, I
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have to interview the owner in the winner circle. So
I've said to him, this is our chat, this is
our pre interview. We'll do the interview in the Winner Circle.
He wasn't that excited.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
About the interview. He said, it doesn't do a lot
of TV. I said, I don't really care.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Now we're best friends, I will be interviewing you in
the winner circle.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Derek, Does he know that you love Christal Pounds?
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Everybody knows, Dan, I mean everybody knows because I'm spreading
the word far and wide. I even found the Crystal
Palace fan right here at Churchill Downs yesterday. We are
getting everywhere it is. It is a movement. Who are
you betting on? By the way, who are you going
for in the derby?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I don't know. I really don't know. Okay, we had
somebody whose relative owns a horse that is is it
something Honor twenty to one? I think so? One of
my honor Marie on a Maria.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, so I probably would bet on that that horse
just because one of our listeners is going and somebody
own got the horse. The weather? Does weather play a role.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
In the horse racing?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah? Or event?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well? How about tomorrow specifically? Is to know the forecast?
Speaker 5 (42:53):
I think it's gonna be dry, the tracks really wet.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Well, I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I probably aren't you are you in Kentucky?
Speaker 5 (43:02):
I know, seriously, I need to brush up on my weather.
Where's Dylan Dryer when you need her? I think the
track is very muddy right now, but somebody told me
that the drainage is very good. It doesn't rain, it
doesn't rain again.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
And remember it's fahrenheit. It's fahrenheit. No Selsi, it's okay.
Speaker 7 (43:22):
Oh gosh, don't give me that.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
And also, by the way, yesterday we had a London
Derby and then I had to do a promo for
the Derby.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
I mean it was almost a complete.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Disaster because you don't want to say Derby when you
mean Derby, and you don't want to say Derby when
you mean Derby.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
I mean, let's be honest. I'm amazed I'm still here
because last year I did throw in a Derby during
the just twenty odd million people watching, and the English
girl just chucks in a Derby.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
God knows how I'm still got the shop.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
It is so Primary League tomorrow morning starts at what seven,
seven thirty seven Eastern?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
As always, when you get up I know you do
every Saturday.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I do, I do, I do, and then you'll get
the Derby and then you go till seven thirty or
seven o'clock tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Yep, that's it. I think it's seven thirty.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Yeah, so yeah, we're on air. Well, we've got you
all morning, and then the Manchester City game goes straight
into the on NBC, goes straight into the NBC coverage
that starts at two thirty, and then I'll nip over
onto that and then I'll be done with the with
the winning owner interview afterwards.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, we'll look forward to seeing that.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Okay, come down and visit one day. It's been too long.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Am I visiting where down in Kentucky? Or am I wherever?
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Wherever?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Can I just come and visit?
Speaker 7 (44:35):
Because yes, come come visit as an infecta.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
I haven't seen you in far too long in real life.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's great, it's great to talk to you, and thanks,
thanks for joining us. That's the Kentucky Darby coming up
tomorrow with your with your host Rebecca Low.
Speaker 9 (44:55):
Nobody covers the Derby.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Lie, No, nobody you want expert pick, No, we're giving
you entertainment. Does anybody have a pick on the Kentucky Derby? Yes, Todd,
I'm gonna go Mystic Dan because of Dan Patrick why
not let's go mistic Dan right behind Sierra Leone for
that would be a butt kisser.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Okay, right there?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
That is weak, Yeah, that is weak. Sauce. What do
you have, c I'm gonna go with just a touch,
just a touch, Marvin your pick.
Speaker 10 (45:32):
I'm gonna go. They call me this in school, just
steal really s t e a l No, no, no, no
st e el Okay, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Twenty to one stronghold. That sounds like a winning horse.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Strong.
Speaker 9 (45:51):
Know nothing about it at the eighteen eighteen hole. They
don't used to come out of there. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Sandwiched in between fierceness and resilience strong holds. I remember
being in New York and I would cover the Belmont
and the Preakness, and so I'd go down to Baltimore
and I'd cover that, and I did love the horse
racing people. If it was just I was over my
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skis because you're you're talking to like Woody Stevens, one
of the great trainers of all time, and you know,
you're you're trying to act like you know what you're
talking about, even though I did research, you know, I mean,
I thought I had good questions, and then I'd somehow
screw it up by some kind of lingo that I
used or didn't use, like I just did with Rebecca
calling them the Spurs old habits, NBA habits, die Hard Spurs.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
No, the.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's like Golf channel. It's not the Golf channel. NFL network,
it's not the NFL network. I found these things out.
Maybe I'm just sort of you know, i'd lean on
the word the a little too much. Yes, the Pauline.
Speaker 9 (46:59):
Do you think that's a like I'm gonna watch the
Bears or'm gonna watch the Cubs. You wouldn't say I'm
gonna tune in to watch Cubs this weekend. It sounds weird.
It sounds like you're leaving something out. Well, they are
the Reds, aren't they? They are this in the Premier League.
But their title is Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
No, No, the Premier League. Oh the Reds. Oh is there
a the I don't Seaton? Are they known as the Reds?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Liverpool is the Reds? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
But why is Tottenham Spurs not the Spurs? Tottenham hot
Spur but not the hot Spur.
Speaker 9 (47:33):
But if you say Reds are coming in town to
play Chelsea or would be the Reds are coming down
to play Chelsea with if you're for a Liverpool.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I don't know the Magpies, Oh Magpies, that's Newcastle. Let
me get a couple of Tommy and Oregon. Hey Tommy,
how are you today?
Speaker 8 (47:50):
Good morning dance, second time, longtime, five nine top pounds soft.
I picked the last two winters the Kentucky Derby, including
an eighty to one love it, yeah, but it was
a two dollars bet.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Okay, here we go. Tommy in Oregon is going to
tell you who's gonna win the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Forever.
Speaker 8 (48:14):
I get ten to one.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Dan, all right, we're gonna write it down. Maybe you'll
throw you know. Dylan the graphics guy. We did the
Gambling podcast yesterday. I think those knuckleheads they picked their Kentucky.
I think they did an exact or something, but they
were they were picking their their Derby. It's very good. Yeah,
thank you Dylman. Yeah, Dylan, Dylan bat Larry and Shyan Irving.
(48:41):
The Gambling Podcast. I thought maybe we'd send the show there,
but I guess not. It was a it's a wild podcast.
It is, and there are times when I tell Ray,
the producer. He said, can you get me something that
I can play on the show on Friday? And he goes,
(49:02):
you know, I couldn't really find anything that was appropriate
to play on the show. And I go, okay, I'll
just tell if you're listening to the podcast, don't have
I mean, it's not safe for work. It's but our
children or maybe your wife, you know. Once Shay gets
going and then Dylan jumps in and then they make
(49:24):
fun of bad Larry and then all hell breaks loose
after that.
Speaker 9 (49:28):
Yes, Marv, yeah, yesterday after the podcast you were like
Amark part.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, re goes. Do you think we
should keep that in? I go, no, no, we're not going.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
To keep that in.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Celebrity birthdays today, Greg Gumbels seventy eight. No, yes, Gumby
is seventy eight. No, good for him, Frankie Valley ninety s.
They'll do it, yeah, Christopher Cross seventy three, Christina Hendricks
(50:03):
Mad Men forty nine, Willie Geist Today's Show forty nine,
Eric Church forty seven, Bobby kind of Valet fifty four.
The actor. Isn't he married to Rose Burne?
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Remember he saw her in person? Rose burned my retinas.
She was. She was thank you for having me. I know.
That's she came up to me and she's like, you know,
I just said hi, you know, blah blah blah. She goes,
thank you, thank you for having me. And I didn't
know what to say.
Speaker 9 (50:41):
I put this all together. Yes, is that the best
looking woman you've ever seen in person? Where you like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Goodness, No, I go home every day, Paul, nice, thank you,
thank you. Shout out to my brother Bill, his birthday
today as well.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah he's one hundred. Yeah, he's a hundred. You know
I I, uh no, I can't do this. I already
told the story to the dan Ets uh where I
had somebody critiquing my look yesterday. But I but I
can't do that. When I was outside, oh yeah too late.
Speaker 9 (51:16):
Now I think you kind of opened the door.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Why don't you go home? Phyllis all right, Yeah, it
was that.
Speaker 9 (51:21):
What was a hypothetical story.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
The hypothetical story was somebody said, oh, my gun, I
saw you walk out to get the mail, and you
look like such an old man, and I go oh.
And then the person said, and I saw you the
other day, and I go that's not Dan. He looks
so fat and I, you know, boy, I'm happy. I
you know, I stopped by to say hello, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 9 (51:45):
Like if my neighbor was a close buddy drinking buddy
friend and they said those kind of comments to me,
it's like your buddy could say stuff. I'm guessing this
neighbor is not that close to you. Well, I mean
like as a.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, but you get to a certain age where you
just say whatever you want to say.
Speaker 9 (52:02):
Oh, no, turn thing on.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, Like my mom she would just go, well that's
how I feel, and I go, Mom. I mean, these
people are a little bit older, and they probably were
just being honest with me that I look like I
was really old, barely making it out to the mailbox,
and that I looked fat. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (52:24):
Well, here's the thing. Whatever you want to say about you,
fat would not be a word I would even consider. Well,
now you do wear hoodie.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Sometimes they did say I was wearing loose or baggy clothes.
Speaker 9 (52:34):
That's a completely different word choice though.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
But when you say and we thought, I can't be
you because you look fat and full or husky maybe,
but not fat. I don't alright, if you're like yeah,
and I do get along with these people. There's anymore
I know, I do, I do. I just was kind
of taken aback by it.
Speaker 9 (52:57):
Why don't you try it back next time you see it.
I just say, like, you guys are still around at
your age.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Ye, yes, Charles, I saw you trying to cross the driveway.
Everything okay. Well, one one said, hey, I'm not getting old,
I'm old, and I thought that that was, you know,
fair enough line. Yes, Marph, do.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
They go to the Christmas party?
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Esther, you're about to get it.
Speaker 9 (53:18):
No, no, no, image, you've been hit the buffet
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