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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's bringing John Smoltz. John was on the call for
Game four last night. John, Thanks for joining us. Let's
start with the Mookie Bets play. You've been around baseball
a long time. Have you ever seen anything that comes
close to that?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
No, that was as bad as it gets. I mean,
you know, sometimes you lose your mind when space and awareness,
and I think that gentleman lost his all. He believed
that seat, that sphere was his and he was going
to get that ball no matter what.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Luckily nothing came of it.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But you can imagine if your Mookie Betts, just the
sensation of somebody's grabbing not only your glove, but if
that wall's hired, he's suspended in the air. So I
was pretty confident when I made a statement he's going
to be ejected, and he.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Was, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But I think he's allowed back tonight. I don't think
he's your ban for the rest of the World Series
or one more game. I think he can come back
to a hero's welcome tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
He could come back.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
You know, we've seen plays that have affected outcomes. Obviously
famous plays Tony Tarasco and being the greatest miscall in
the history of calls. But at least this one is
in fall territory, and at least this one we have replays,
so it would have been easily easily overturned.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And once again, Freddie Freeman Homer's how do you explain this, John.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's really something I've been doing this a long time.
You don't see this switch come.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
On very often.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
This is not you know, sometimes when an athlete's hurt,
we make you know too much of it.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
This is not making too much of it.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
This is actually an injury that was severe that the
time off allowed tremendous work to be done, and his
timing and the ability to hit with power. Honestly, say,
the first couple of weeks, nobody expected him at a
home run because he couldn't hit off his front foot,
and now to do what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's the reason why Freddie is Freddy. I.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Sometimes we see a team that hasn't done anything and
then they had the offensive explosion, and then we try
to decide, Okay, does that mean there's more of that
in store tonight or maybe that's their one chance to
stand up and not tend to avoid a sweep so
what side are you leaning towards tonight.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, in a World Series, in a best of seven,
it's not like football, where the emotion can carry you
through a quarter or win a game, and you could run.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Through a wall and just ride that emotion.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You know the old adage, your next day's starting pitcher
is your momentum. Right, They got Garrett Cole. But I
said this the other night, and I believe it that
if you can get some jolt of energy from an
unexpected source or just your star, you start seeing that energy.
Like I hate using the phrase the team is flat.
(03:04):
The team's flat because they're not hitting. The team's flat
because they're not scoring runs. So you come to the
park with a little bounce in your step. But the
only reason you continue to play is if you do
those little things that they did last night, and they
weren't doing it in three games leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Talking to John Smoltz, John will be on the call
tonight as we have Game five at Yankee Stadium. I
mentioned this yesterday. You got to have those guys at
the bottom of the order who do something for you,
and that has been the difference for the Dodgers. The
Yankees got those contributions, and I go back to you know,
when you guys had Mark Lemke, there's always a guy.
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You don't expect that guy to be a star. And
the Yankees, you know, they're kind of looking for that.
Can somebody pitch in here and help us? Do they
have a good enough lineup to be able to kind
of find that guy on a consistent basis going on?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, And that's the key, right You get a lineup
card as a pitcher, you circle certain guys and you go,
unfortunately or fortunately, I'm going to go make this guy
beat me. And when this guy beats you, it's a
shock to the system a little bit because you've taken
care of the big boys and then all of a sudden,
the length of the lineup. That's why the Dodgers are
so good. Look, they don't get enough credit because of
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everything that surrounds the payroll, the roster, you know, expectation.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
But what the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Lacked so far in this series is that depth, that
bottom of the lineup. And if they can get that going,
the stress of the top of the lineup is there.
It's real. The pitchers have to deal with that. So
I think the Dodgers have put more resources on bases.
And then last night, finally, I think six walks a
hit batsman. I mean, that's what the Yankees do when
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they when they win baseball games.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then it was kind of an oh, by the way,
but Judge gets the base hit RBI.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Those are the kind of things I said.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He needs to get a like a bleeder, something that
just he finds soft landing there for a base knock there.
What are you seeing that he's doing or not doing
at the play? Well, yesterday he had a lot of
great takes. Most people say, well, big deal. No, you
got to start with a great take. You got to
stop swinging at those pitches. And then the pitcher goes, oh, shoot,
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he's not swinging at it. I got to get closer
to the plate or I'm going to walk him. The
fact that he got on base four times is huge.
I mean, this is a narrative that he knows. It's
sometimes really unfair for the great players to have to
do great things all the time.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
But it's a start. And I think he's a click away.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I said it, he's a click away from really making
a ball disappear into the sky, which is what this
Yankee Kraw's been waiting for.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And what did you see with Otani? He had that
one at bat where he kind of flailed at it.
Didn't look on top of things comfortable there.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Well, I say this all the time. If nobody knew
Otani had a shoulders injury and he was in the lineup,
the Dodgers are better.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
So he's limited.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Look, he's this is not something that I don't think
people realize what he's doing. When you pop your shoulder out,
you got information, you got small tears, you got an
uncomfortable you don't run normally holding your collar. I mean
that's just telling you the discomfort he's under. So he's
still a threat. He's eliminated though the threat of when
he gets on base, he's not going to steal. So
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all these things that go into it, they're still better
with him in there, as banged up as he is.
And yes, he's not completely right because he has to
make sure that he trusts what not getting hurt versus
being in the lineup to help his team win this series.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Go back to la.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
You know I've said the pressure turns when you have
to think about not you know, Dorodgers don't want to
bring the Yankees to LA. They still have a huge
decided advantage the series. The statistics talk about it, but
when you can win a game, you change the narrative
a little bit. The narrative is, oh, they got Garrett
Cole on the mountain, and then oh, now it may
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switch to the Dodgers. You have to be so menally
tough to not listen to the noise, and the teams
that usually have been there done that, learn how to
do that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Great to talk to you. Have fun tonight. Thank you again, John,
my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
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Speaker 2 (07:29):
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If you're watching on peacock, you'll notice we don't have
a full lineup. Polly is not here today, hopefully tomorrow,
and talk to him yesterday and he's doing a lot better.
I'm not sure where Fritzy is. Could somebody let Fritzy
know that the show has started. I do not see
him in his seat seat, and he is your back
(07:52):
row mate. You want me to go find him? Well,
I don't want to lose you too, maybe the Oh no,
we weren't. We weren't doing.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Costumes today, happy fellow, right there.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, Fritzy has got is a shark costume on today,
not a sharp costume.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
A shark costume mostly covers his mouth too, which is great. Yes,
can you speak in your shark costume?
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I could speak a little bit.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
How does that sound good? Didn't we talk about this
we weren't wearing costumes?
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, but it's sports game. I'm no ordinary shark.
Ready he shirt scars? What kind of shark ball?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You're a San Jose shark?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Shark?
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Okay, shark? I thought you guys are all getting dressed up?
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Can we just not do anything for the show today?
Speaker 7 (08:43):
But just watched Todd try to manage his headphones and then.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
I can't, like wear the thing. I have the headphones up.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, you you can't do anything yourself.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
It is not possible for you to do anything yourself.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
He is.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
I did not imagine that he would be struggling this much.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Shark Chuck shark, shrek baby shk Remember that song?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Now, wasn't this a video where they had.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Conducer for headphones? This particular outfit.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Yeah, who's the pop singer the chand the Shark? Oh,
Katie Perry, Katy Perry, is.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
That where that shark costumes?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
I think we did like a than For some reason,
I feel like I was out in the streets in
New York City once.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Ordering food in that you had lost a bet.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, well Todd didn't lose a bet, and he just
decided to show up in costume. No one else is
in costume. You know, I don't like costumes on Halloween.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Something crazy happens in the sports.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yes, then I'm dressed as little Bill Pete and you
know I'm talking about something really serious.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
I have a lot of other questions. By the way,
if that was your choice of costume, no fuddy that
We're going on eighteen straight years of nothing happening on Halloween,
so you would have been okay all this time, you
could have drawn up, you know, shown up as the week.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
We don't know, we just started. We just started. We're
nine minutes in, yeah, eight minutes in kilt.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
In this thing. Okaying about Brewers.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Memories, do you want to take go ahead and take
off the constume?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yes? Absolutely? Are you sure though?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Because watching him try to navigate his headphones right now?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Is okay? How about we see if you can make
it to the commercial break?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Okay, we can try that, all right.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
So the Dodgers win the World Series.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The Yankees collapsed in the fifth inning and Fritzy into numerology.
Do you want to give the numerology Can you even
hear me the numerology of five?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Because with the fifth inning and Messico is five to
five and Freeman who got to hit the mate of five?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Three?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
And he's the MVP of the World Series. Where's number five?
There's a lot of stuff going on with five?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So the Yankees, this is how it sounded. The final
call on AM five to seventy LA Sports Dodgers Radio Network.
Speaker 9 (11:04):
Dave Roberts can hardly watch.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Here's the one two pitch from Bueller.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Got them swinging.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That's it.
Speaker 10 (11:12):
That's a World Series win for LA.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
They've done it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They've finished the job. And give Los Angeles the parade.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
It's been waiting for a swarm of Dodgers on the
right side of the infield, grown men, but children again
living out their dream.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's courtesy of AM five seventy our friends in Los Angeles.
A seven game series comes down to more than one player,
one person normally, and with all the millions and millions
and millions of dollars that both of these franchis spent
this year on their rosters, it comes down to small things.
Small things like catching a fly ball, covering first base,
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making a good throw to third base, taking advantage of
a situation. You know, Aaron Judge drops a routine fly ball.
You know, the fifth inning started harmlessly. It was like,
all right, five nothing. Garrett Cole was dealing, all right,
We're going to Los Angeles for a game six. Then
all of a sudden it happened. Judge drops the ball.
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Anthony Volpi an error, throwed a third and then Garrett Cole,
he sees a dribbler from Mooki Bets, go up the
first baseline. Anthony Rizzo. He's sort of waiting for Garrett
Cole to be over there and give credit to Mooki
Betts because he got down the line. He never ever said, well,
I just grounded out to en the inning. If you
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look at Garrett Cole, he comes off the mound, He's
headed towards the dugout. Anthony Rizzo backs up. There was
maybe a little nonchalance on his part there. I don't
know if they would have gotten Mooki Bets in fairness
to the you know, the totality of the play. But
Garrett Cole has to This is what you work on
in spring training. When you go watch spring training, you'll
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see this every single day. All right, I'm gonna throw
it and then I'm gonna go cover first the first
baseman throws it to me, then you get in the
back of the line. This is simple. This is just baseball.
One oh one. Get over there. But do not rule
out or forget Mookie Betts getting out right handed hitter,
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getting out of the box, getting down the line, and
really putting pressure. This is what happened with Mookie Wilson
in the World Series with Bill Buckner. He put pressure
on Buckner. Buckner was not going to get the ball
over to Bob Stanley. Stanley was not going to get
there in time. And this is what Mooki Bets did.
He did not give up on the play. He put
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pressure on them. Garrett Cole doesn't cover first base, Rizzo
is there holding the baseball, and then all of a sudden,
Freddie Freeman gets his opportunity and he didn't miss.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
He didn't miss at all during the entire World Series.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But you know, you're watching this and you're trying to
go and you're trying to understand how do you make
these little mistakes?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
But this is the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The Yankees were not a clean team, terrible base runners.
You make mistakes. They didn't they didn't hit. But give
credit to the Dodgers. And I'm going to start with
Dave Roberts. I know, Freddie Freeman, you know, is your MVP,
and rightfully so, probably unanimous. Dave Roberts did a wonderful job.
And I liken his personality to Terry Francona. Francona dealt
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with big names and big egos and he managed that,
and he managed that on and off the field. And
Dave Roberts has some of that in him that he's
able to take.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
They play like they're a scrappy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You know, small market team, and that is really a
testament to Dave Roberts. And I know that we you know,
question him. You know, it felt like each year his
job is hanging in the balance, and I hope that
people aren't second guessing him. He did a great job
with the pitching staff, Walker Bueller coming in and a
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unique stat where you save a game and you win
a game that doesn't happen very often in World Series history.
Freddie Freeman was great, but you get production from the
bottom of the line up. It's just small things that
made them world champs. Here's Dave Roberts, the manager.
Speaker 11 (15:27):
Yeah, we have talked about this in the past, Dave,
how much it irritated you to hear people say eleven
straight postseason Berts only one title?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Only one?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
How do you feel about that criticism?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Now, I'm going to take the high road.
Speaker 11 (15:42):
You know, it's hard to win a championship, regardless of
you know, what your team is like. It's hard. And
there's a reason why there hasn't been a repeat champion
since the Yankees did it, and so it clearly speaks
to the difficult the playoff format, all that stuff. And
so I'm going to be in the moment and I'm
going to enjoy the heck out of this one. And
I'm sure there's no asterix on this one.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I liked it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
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Speaker 6 (16:45):
I already have the World Series odds for next year.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
According to DraftKings, your favorite the Dodgers, followed by the Yankees, Braves, Phillies,
and the Orioles. That's according to DraftKings. I don't know
where jan Soto is going to go. I don't know
if Juan Soto knows where he's going to go. I
think he'll go to the highest bidder. His agent is
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Scott Boris, and it usually happens that way. But if
you're the Yankees, if you're Juan Soto, have you seen
enough where you want to stay with the Yankees. Being
a left handed hitter and having that right field porch,
I would certainly entertain the idea that that's where I
want to be and in a lineup that's got other
guys power guys. It was just a and I said
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this during the World Series, maybe the playoffs. It's not
a well built lineup there, and I think that'll be
the key in the offseason is can you make it
a fuller lineup as opposed to we got three really
good hitters here and then we have a bunch of pedestrians.
We thought the Yankees had the better pitching staff. Dodgers
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didn't get a lot out of their starting pitchers, but
they got enough out of their starting pitchers, and then
you had Freddie Freeman and that was pretty much enough.
But I did like that one. Sodo goes hey right
after the game. He's like, Hey, all thirty teams, I'm
open for business. And I'm like, one, I'm going to
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guess there's maybe four teams, three teams who can afford you.
It's not thirty teams. I don't think we're going to
have this announcement in the offseason. One Soto has just
announced he is going to the pirates. That's not going
to happen. It's probably going to be maybe Toronto, the Yankees,
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the Mets, maybe the Dodgers. They've talked about do the
Giants try to make a splash. They've tried to do
that in previous seasons. So one Soto's probably got maybe
five teams that he can entertain the idea of joining them,
And you're probably going to have to start the negotiations
at a round six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Do I want that?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, because once again, how many stars can you have?
You must have a full lineup here, and if you're
going to spend that kind of money, what are you
passing on that makes your lineup fuller instead of I'm
going to rely on that one guy, like the Yankees
have relied on Aaron Judge, And I said, Aaron Judge
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was going to Homer last night, and I'm you know,
I was sad that, I you know, he dropped that
fly ball because he had a great season and I
don't want him remembered for that.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I mean, and he won't be remembered.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It's not one of those Bill Buckner, Oh that's all
you remember.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Because of the magnitude of that error.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
They were leading, they were going to win the World Series,
they were going to get rid of, you know, this
drought that the Red Sox had. Bill Buckner had twenty
eight hundred hits. If he didn't have you know, bad
ankles and knees, he would have had three thousand hits.
He would have been a Hall of Famer. But Billy
buck has known just for that one play. You know,
you had Judge out there, and for some reason he's
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thinking about doubling up the runner. Small things, fundamental, fundamental things.
Here's Aaron Judge.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
I think foose from the.
Speaker 12 (20:15):
World Series until I die probably, I think, just like
every other loss, you know, those things don't go away.
You know, they're just they're battle scars along the way
and hoping my career is over. We got a lot
of battle scars. We also a lot of victory along
the way too.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, you know, I get it. It's going to eat
him up for a little while. And does it stay
with him, Well, it'll stay with him. The question is
does it stay with us?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Do we go? Oh, Aaron Judge, all we dropped the
ball in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
He didn't have a great World Series, but he did
Homer last night. It was just that play something really
really small. Hey, keep your eye on the ball. How
many times have we told that growing up? Keep your
eye on the ball?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Show? He Tani didn't do much in the World Old Series.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Obviously it banged up with the shoulder, but he built
up enough credibility during the regular season playing through the
injury that he kind of got a Hall Pass here.
And now you look at this Dodger team next year.
They weren't healthy this year, and then you get Otani.
He's going to be able to pitch. That's why they're
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the World Series favorites.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yes, Marvin, Oh, yeah, Klayton Kershaw's coming back to I
don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I think I don't know. I mean, he's been through
so much. I don't know if I mean, he's probably
going to say, let me go with the mindset of
I'm going to spring training. Maybe, but if you do
bow out, I mean, you won the World Series. You
like to be part of it. But he's been a
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part a lot of the Dodgers' success. But for Dave Roberts,
I'm happy for him. I do like him, like him personally,
and there are times when I shake my head with
some of the moves that he makes, but not in
the playoffs, so I thought he did a wonderful job.
And for Freddy Freeman, he's one of those guys where
you go, that's right.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
He was MVP.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
He and they seem to put the ball in the
same position when they were trying to get him out,
like I would never throw the ball inside to it.
And then he muscles that base hit and two runs
come in at just a professional hitter.
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Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh look, who's back with us? He's the lame duck.
He would be like the Mike McCarthy of NBA analyst
here in the final year, Charles Barkley joining us on
the program.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
You feel like a lame duck?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yes? Hey, Dan?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
If I Canny Smith, do I get a Mercedes you yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah,
we feel like a lame duck.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, wait, wait, what kind of cars do you have?
Do you have anything that would be like exotic?
Speaker 13 (23:11):
No, dude, I got money for a reason. I'm not stupid, dude.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
You can't.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
You can't have money if you waste money on stupid stuff.
I got a I got a Kia. My main car
is a Kia, and I got afford expedition. Uh so
that's it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, doesn't Shaq have a bunch of fancy cars.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Got like five hundred million dollars?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well, if you would stop gambling, you might have that
money that Shack has.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
There's no chance of that happened, dude. I like to gamble.
What's wrong with it? You know what? You know, what's
really about? You know the gambling thing.
Speaker 13 (23:55):
You know, my mom was a maid and my grandmother
worked in a butcher factory, and we grew up on
welfare in the projects.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Nobody cared about my money.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
Nobody ever said, hey, let's go take care of that
Barkley family.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Let's put some let's do a gofund me for them.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Now that I got money and I like to gamble,
everybody's like, man, he gambles too much. Let me just
say to this so people don't get the wrong idea. Then,
if you don't kiss my ass, I'm on gamble. I
like to do it. I'm in I'm in forum right now, dad,
because my whole weekend it's all about gambling on Saturday
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and Sunday, the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Brother, Okay, I'm happy that you're happy gambling.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
I would like for you to win a little more so.
Speaker 13 (24:44):
Yeah, I would like the team to play. That's what
the damn problem is. It's not my bed selection.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
It's them.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
You know, it's them. It is them.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Okay, I'm gonna start with a serious topic here. What
is worse for the NBA A bigger problem load management
or too many three pointers?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Dan?
Speaker 13 (25:08):
That's a great question, because I think they're both problems.
It's just now as a three point shooting contest. But
what's gonna be the biggest problem going forward?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
When we have.
Speaker 13 (25:19):
Guys making eighty to ninety one hundred million dollars not
playing back to back games. That's to me, I mean, listen, uh,
the three point thing bothers me because of course, if they're.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Going in, you're gonna win. But you got to have
a plan. B.
Speaker 13 (25:34):
But when that new TV deal kicks in next year
and you got a guy making eighty five million dollars
and he says, hey, you know what, I'm not gonna
pay back to back games it's ridiculous that they fans
are gonna pay as much as the cost to go
to games now, and now you're gonna have to go
out and do start doing streaming going forward. We can't
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have a guy making ninety five million dollars saying I
can't play basketball four days a week.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And that's a fairness.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
Most teams play three games a week. But let's say
hypothetically you play four games. You can't ask fans to
pay that money for a guy making ninety five million
dollars won't play back to back game. I mean, if
anybody think that's a good idea, they're crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Okay, but how do you fix load management?
Speaker 13 (26:24):
You play basketball? Man, were the luckiest dudes in the world. See,
this is the thing that bothers me about the entire
seventy six or thing like number one they got you
don't tell people and not gonna play back to back game.
That's just what the stupidity started. But also then if
you're tired or a little sore, which every basketball player
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is during the season, Hey, you know what, coach, I'm
gonna play twenty five minutes tonight. I'm not gonna play
forty two. That to me is my biggest problem with
load management. Just play twenty five to twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Like when you're a star, you're gonna play basically between
thirty five and forty five minutes most nights. But if
you if you gonna play back to back or you
want a load managers, just tell the coach, Hey, coach,
I'm gonna give you twenty five tonight. Maybe we could
push the twenty seven thirty. But because you know Adam Saiber,
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who's amazing, he killed most of the back to backs anyway. Yeah, so,
but I think the load management, you can't ask people
out here go out here and get their hard earned
money on like real jobs.
Speaker 13 (27:34):
They say, I'm coming to see this great player play
and he's, like I said, he's making eighty to one
hundred million dollars. Well, he sit it out because he
was tired. What it's not sustainable.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
What if you just got paid for the number of
games you played, dude.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Them dudes would be playing eighty five games. Hey dude, Dan,
we're not. We don't have like a real job. We're
playing basketball.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But do I have to incentivize these guys making this
much money that if you play this many games, you
get like there's a bonus and you have to do
something here. I mean, I think we got a real
problem with too many threes. The game is not great,
and I just think, you know, when you've got guys
who they think nothing of sitting down, of sitting out.
Speaker 13 (28:28):
Yeah, Dan, you know when you say that or I
say that, they we're the old get off my long guys.
And I don't care if they say that, because man,
we're playing basketball. We're not a nurse. I'm pretty sure
nurses don't want to go in sometime. Guys who work
in the steel meals, who work in construction, I'm pretty
sure they don't want to go in. But you know, man,
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I've always told people the most important things should be
the game. And it's really getting to the point where's
embarrassing that we actually ever having this conversation, because if
you go back and look at basketball, the greatest player
is ever number one. They had to go to college
for three and four years, but they played the whole games.
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They played in crappy shoes, they flew commercial. You know, injuries.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now that you're back in six months or a year
and it's your career.
Speaker 13 (29:24):
We got the best medical stuff. We got guys sleeping
in hyperbarack chambers. We got guys doing cold water plunges.
This is from a physical standpoint, this is probably the
greatest time to play sports. Can you imagine as a
football player, And I'm gonna be serious for a second here,
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this is probably the greatest time to ever play football
because number one, the money you make, But also if
you get a sniff of a concussion, you're gonna you're
not gonna play, you know, you know, you go back
and look at our you got there putting that smelling
stuff under your nose, Like, get back out there, get
back out there. Now, if you've got a concussion, you're
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probably not gonna play. And that's great. But like if
this is the best time ever to play sports, number
one financially, but from a half standpoint and a medical standpoint,
this is the greatest time ever.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Well, the NBA is nowhere as physical as it was
back when you played, so you can factor that in
of you don't have back to back games, it's not
as physical. These guys should be in better shape. There's
the money that's attached to this, Like there's no real
Lebron shouldn't be the guy who says I want to
play every game this season. But he is saying that
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he wants to play.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
But Lebron' he's amazing. But then you just laid it
out right there. You said, these guys should want to
play basketball for the financial and all this stuff. That's
that's the part that her to me as as an
older player. I'm like, man, the most money I ever made,
and I'm blessed. I'm blessed for five million dollars. Let
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me tell you something. For seventy five eighty million dollars
a year, I get to the game early. I'm like, hey, like, hey,
I was, you know, you know I was. We were
talking about Zion last year getting in shape. I said, yo, man,
for seventy eighty million dollars, you know what they'd be saying.
I'm worried about that. Charles Barkley, he's out here anemic.
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You know, he got of eating at this order. He's
too skinny. I mean because, and I mean necessarily. I
got in shape for two million dollars. My first contract
was four years, two million dollars. I lost fifty pounds
because I was fat in college. Then I would be
totally anorexic. For seventy five eighty million dollars. And I
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know that's for serious subject, but for the kind of
money these guys are making today.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
God bless him, God bless him.
Speaker 13 (31:57):
I'm not a hater, dude, but to go play basketball
for the money we're making today, then you own worst
case scenario. Think about this worst case scenario. You would
never play more than four games in a week. Think
about that. We don't fly commercial anymore. Like I said,
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you got the best shoes, you got the best medical stuff.
It's an embarrassment that we have to beg these players.
It's embarrassment as the older player, that we have to
beg these guys to play basketball.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I mean, necessrely, Charles Barkley, turn your sports inside the
NBA analyst. Do you have a statue?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yes, I got one at Auburn.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
I got one at the Philadelphia seventy six ers facility.
They put miniatures up, but yeah, I got one at Auburn.
It's really an honor. You know what's really funny. When
I met with those people the first time, it was
a really awful looking statue before they fit to fit
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got to finished product.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Man, what are you doing?
Speaker 13 (33:09):
And he says, well, I got like four or five
pictures of you, and I'm trying to merge them together.
I was, yo, man, stop it, pick one picture and
we're good. There's an honor for the statue. But yeah, man,
that Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
That's awful.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Man. I felt bad for Dwayne because he had to
act like he liked it.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
He did have to act like he liked it.
Speaker 13 (33:31):
But I think I saw on some show they were
talking about the looks on his kid's face looking at him,
but they were like, but were you between a rock
and a hard place? But he can't do anything.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
I don't know where you guys stand.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I didn't see you guys talking about the Brownny Lebron stuff,
like people got sideways on the coverage of this and
it's the worst thing for the NBA, and you know,
nepotism and whatever it is. And I'll give you my take,
and whether you agree with it or not, we can discuss.
But I said, if it keeps Lebron engaged, if he
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wants to continue to play, he wants to play at
a high level. He wants to play with his son,
who's going to be the twelfth man at best on
the bench, or probably go to the G League. You
go to Cleveland, you get to go back to his hometown,
You bring your son with you, great memories there, he
gets a hoop. Now he goes down to the G League.
He's the fifty fifth pick in the draft. Nobody ever
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talks about the fifty fifth pick in the draft. So
with that being said, where do you stand with Bronnie
and lebron.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, you know, you got a lot of great points.
Speaker 13 (34:45):
I think the main thing is is him getting to
play with his son is a cool thing.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
For one thing.
Speaker 13 (34:52):
But I think he needs to go to the G
League so he can get better as a basketball player.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
He's not gonna get better sitting on the bench.
Speaker 13 (35:00):
It was a great story to start the season having
Griffith Jr. And Senior there going back to Cleveland get
his first NBA basket. But you know, he's not gonna
get better as a player sitting on the bench. Uh,
he needs to play basketball, because you think about it,
Damn you get you got the fact three and number one.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I'm glad he's healthy, but.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
He hasn't played any basketball really in a year or more.
I mean, he hasn't played any basketball. He was you know,
because of the hard thing. And I like, I say,
I'm so glad he's healthy, but like he needs to
play basketball because he's got to figure out because he
doesn't have a position.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
He's a tweener. But he's gonna have to learn.
Speaker 13 (35:41):
Like I said, the only way you get better at
playing any sport that is playing that sport. I mean, so,
I think it's a great story, it's great full Lebron,
but he needs to go to the G League and
get learn how to play get better as a basketball player.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
One of my pet peeves is the Defensive Player of
the Year award because to me, Victor winben Yama affected
more shots than anybody did last year. He can guard
the perimeter, he can guard inside at the same time.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
And I know I'm not big on Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But the award bothers me because I don't know, like
it feels like Michael Jordan could have been Defensive Player
of the Year every year if he wanted to be,
Like he would lock somebody down, right.
Speaker 13 (36:27):
Yeah, Well, let's since you're talking about pet peas, I
got one. Okay, okay, these idiots on ESPN every year, Why.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Do you keep watching? I keep telling you if you.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Don't watch, I got to see what happened.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, Skip Bayles isn't around anymore, so you don't have
to worry about him.
Speaker 13 (36:48):
Yeah, I kind of feel bad for the guy. I
didn't like the guy, but I feel bad. I feel
bad because I do. I don't want bad things to
have in other people. But you know, it's funny you
said it because I'm watching all these idiots and foods
in jack Ass on ESPN and it bothers me every
year because they used this analogy because it gets back
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to the NBA. They're like, well Lebron was the best player,
Yes he was, but Dereck Rose was better that year.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Well, Karl Malone won MVB. He was better than Michael
Jordan that year.
Speaker 13 (37:22):
They have these arguments every year about the MVP, and
now they got a really cool one coming up in
the NFL, which has always been my argument. Pat Mahomes
is the best quarterback in the world. But if you
don't think Jared golf Well, Mar Jackson, Derek Henry or
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the MVP, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, if you don't think
one of those, I love Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
He's probably one of my favorite players. If you don't
think one of those four players at the MVP, you
don't know anything about sports. I get so annoyed with
these guys, like, well.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
Lebron should have won it, Like, no, it goes to
the guy having the best season.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It's not the guy who's the best player.
Speaker 13 (38:11):
We all know Patrick is the man, but Josh Lamar,
Derrick Henry, Jared golf those four guys, And let me
tell you something, I'm glad I don't have a vote
because you talk about putting names in a hat and
just pulling one because any one of those four guys.
Like I say, but it annoys me when these foods
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on each other networks talking about, well this guy, he's
the best player. It's not who's the best player. It's
the guy who's having the best season. And those four
guys are having a better season than Patrick. Ya, he's
the best quarterback. He might go down as the best ever,
but for this year, those five four guys. And let
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me tell you something, I don't know who I would
pick between Derrick, Henry and Lamar either that's a tough one.
But Jared Golf man, it's some I don't understand why
that guy gets no respect. He gets zero respect. He
led a team to the super Bowl. They're like, you're
not good enough. And that team brings in Stafford and
they win the Super Bowl and they just prap on
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him even more. He just keeps his head down in Detroit.
Get him to the NFC Championship game. They should have
won that game. No, Now he's got him with the
probably the best team. I hate that agent at Hutcheson kid.
That hutch was one of my favorite player. Shout out
to Aden Hutchinson. Man that kid. Man his motor it
was ridiculous. I hate he broke his leg, but man,
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Jared Golf, nobody ever get that kid any credit. I'm
proud of him for handling it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Do you think that you had a better year than
Jordan when you won the MVP?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yes?
Speaker 13 (39:45):
Hell yes, the best record. We had the best record
in the NBA that year.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes.
Speaker 13 (39:55):
And was he a better player than me, yes he was.
But that year the Phoenix Suns had to best record
in the NBA and the and so like I say, listen,
Derrick Rose.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Shout out to Derek Rose, great career man, great dude.
Speaker 13 (40:09):
But the year he won MVP, the Chicago Bulls what
they I mean, they had the home court against the capitalists,
and people forget. But it's the guy having the best season.
It's not the best player and them clowns and foods
on other network. When I set foods and clowns, I
mean it is being in Fox. They're like, well, to
go to the best player. I'm like, well, okay, that's
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that's your opinion.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
That don't make you right, I can. I can tell
you this now. I didn't vote for you for MVP
that year.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Did you vote me second?
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I can live with that. See, you know I should
have won the MVP in eighty eight, Magic Johnson.
Speaker 13 (40:51):
We had the closest vote in the history of the NBA.
So I had a great year in Philly. I think
that's one of the years I was like twenty eight
points and I led to the NBA and rebounding, and
I knew I had a great year, and I knew
it was going to come down to the wire. But
what really bothered me, and that's why we should have
some of these fools accountable, because I got I think
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I beat him in first place votes and then I
didn't get any other votes, and.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I was like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 13 (41:20):
How can I get I mean, you got to put
me first or SUCKERD worst case scenario third, And at
the time it was the closest vote in NBA history,
and I was so mad.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I says, Hey, I don't mind.
Speaker 13 (41:35):
Losing the word, but y'all just like like I say,
I'm a least suckered worst case scenario third and I
was really pissed.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Sounds like you still really pissed.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Dan.
Speaker 13 (41:49):
Our job on television is to be fair and honest.
One reason I had fans might disagree with me. But
no fan has ever said to me, Hey, you know what,
you took personal shots set a guy or you have
a person of endebta against a guy. No player, every
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player who.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Calls me when I criticize him, I said, yo, let
me explain why I said that, Because players.
Speaker 13 (42:14):
And agents call me all the time, and I'll be
honest with them. But you know what I hate about
the players and the agents, Dan, They never called me
when I said something good about that player.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
It pisses me off. It really pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's great to talk to you. I'm glad you're in
mid season for him and he can.
Speaker 13 (42:32):
I put you Hey, when I'm looking for another job.
Can I put you on my LinkedIn? I think yes,
as a rest of reference. Yes, okay, yes, I'm trying
to get my famous friends to all in case after
using as a LinkedIn reference, so.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
You haven't heard from them, So that's why you're asking me.
All right, I'm going to be there for you. I'll
help you with your resume. He's the great Charles Barkley.
Thank you, Charles,