May 13, 2024 • 29 mins
Dave Packer comes on the show to talk about the latest developments in the Trump "Hush Money" trial. Gas prices are ridiculously high and there is a new gas tax hike coming soon. More details have come out about the break in at the Getty House while Mayor Karen Bass and others were inside. The guy who attacked Paul Pelosi is up for sentencing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
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(00:22):
a jam pack program full of fascinating stories today, really
really good stuff. But first, the Trump trial continues and
it's in the stretch run here. It's in the final
days at least for the prosecution case. And now they
have their big star witness to close out their case,
Michael Cohen, who used to be Trump's attorney. He used
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to be Trump's fixer, and he was the one charged
with fixing the Stormy Daniels situation and paying off Stormy
Daniels one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. And of course
this is turned into state and federal charge against Trump
by Alvin Bragg, Manhattan County District Attorney. It's a curious case.
(01:05):
It seems to be a politically motivated case. But it's
still going on, and you don't know what the jur
and jurors of New York City are going to do,
and today Cohen testified it. We've got Dave Packer from
ABC News to talk about today's proceedings. David, how are you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm doing well. Yeah. So right now we're seeing a
bunch of documents being presented into evidence, and these are
statements from a bank account. Basically, a shell company was
created and a bank account was taken out in that
shell's company's shell company's name for the express purpose of
paying Stormy Daniels the hush money. Now, we heard Cohen
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testifying earlier that that Trump had gone to David Packer
from the National Inquirer, who had, by the way, paid
off the previous McDougall paid, and so wanted maybe to
do a catch and kill on Stormy Daniels. And he
said Pecker's had at the time, Well, listen, I'm not
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a bank. In other words, he's not going to pay
for another one. So Trump would have to be on
his own. And so then there was this mad scramble
that Cohen is describing because the Access Hollywood tape had
just came out in twenty sixteen. The election was just
around the corner, and they wanted to quiet this story,
and so we heard testimony about that leading up to
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this hush money payment.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Now, has the hush money payments by themselves are not crimes.
Has the prosecution tied this into the real meat of
the case is that it's a federal election law violation
because he was spending the money to suppress the story.
If it gotten out, it might have changed the course
of the elections. Have they gotten to that yet, because
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that's the if they're going to get a conviction, it
has to be on that right.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you know, this testimony from Cohen has kind of
I've brought together some of this more disparate testimony that
you heard from different witnesses throughout the weeks of this trial.
It's sort of bringing it together. But again, you know,
they're laying out these facts, and you know that's something
in closing arguments that they're going to have to present
and really make that case. So again, you know, we
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do have these hush money payments. The process by which
the hush money payment got to her was was kind
of shady because the shell company they went to the
bank and basically misrepresented what this company was going to
be doing for consulting fees, and it turned out it
was going to be for a payment. Colan on the
stand said, well, if I had told them the truth,
the bank would have never you know, opened this account
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with me. So but yes, so, you know, the case
has got to be made by the prosecution that these
activities were for the express purpose of influencing the presidential election.
And that's the case, and that's going to have to
be driven home in closing arguments.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So the charges about falsifying business records relate to this
shell company specifically, or.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, so well yeah, yeah. Basically, the Trump organization portrayed
the reimbursement of Michael Cone because he, you know, testified
that he took out a home equity loan to pay
off Stormy Daniels, So this was out of his own
money and then he was being reimbursed the Trump organization.
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In their books and in their filing and their tax
returns and everything else, they were listing these as consulting
fees when in fact, as a prosecution contends, they were
meant to reimburse Michael Cohne for the money that he
paid Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I see, okay, through the shell company, correct, I see.
That's the first that I can remember hearing that they
created a company just to channel these payments through to Cohen,
who was then, you know, to reimburse them for what
he sent to Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, exactly, And you know there was a Cohen was
kind of upset, and he's talking now on the stand
about how he after he made this payment. Shortly after that,
it was bonus time and his bonus was cut by
two thirds, which he wasn't happy about. And so they
were talking about that, and then he got a call
while he was on vacation, Trump saying, no, what we're
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gonna We're gonna make this good. He thought he was
talking about the bonus. It turned out he was talking
about the hush money payment. That he would take care
of that, but he was definitely disgruntled at the time.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All Right, Dave Packer, I guess no one's confusing you
with the David Pecker. Right. We have a lot of
jokes around here. I wanted to add one more. We're
having fun, all right, Dave, Thanks for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're bat take care, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's Dave Packer, not to be confused with David Packer,
the head of the National Inquirer. Dave Packer's the ABC
News correspondent. He's been on the Trump case all along. Here.
You know, there's certain words, loaded phrases like shell company,
hush money, that gives you the feeling that something illegal
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is happening. Not necessarily, shell companies are legal, hush money
is legal. Reimbursing your your fixer, attorney, that's legal. So
even these all these terms have tawdry connotations, in fact,
by themselves, there's nothing wrong with it. What what the
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charges are is that by misidentifying in the ledger what
these payments were for, it was to affect the election outcome.
And so this is federal election interference charges. That's what
the felonies are about. It relates to every single time
a payment was put in the ledger, every time a
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check was written, every time an invoice. You know, every
charge was multiplied by three to make it look far
worse than it is. But you know, there's not a
person alive that would be charged with this crime except
for Trump. And it's worth reiterating that every other law
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enforcement agency on federal, state, local levels, all passed on
this case, including Alvin Bragg originally as well, But there
must have been some intense political pressure behind the scenes
to give it a go, if for nothing else, just
to embarrass Trump, keep him from campaigning, keep his name
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in the headlines with this tawdry sex affair. Well, we
got more coming up, and boy do we have a
good show for you. We'll get into all that next.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
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six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Gas prices, as you know they are, I paid five
dollars a gallon, and it's about two bucks cheaper in
the rest of the country. Much of the rest of
the country. People are getting bloodied by Gavin Newsom and
the California Legislature and the California Air Resources Board every day.
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It's costing you, really thousands of dollars over time, thousands
and thousands of extra dollars for gas that nobody else
in the country has to pay for. And now, according
to the staff of California's leading air quality regulator, it
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looks as if a program that's been on the books
will raise gas prices by about fifty cents next year
and another fifty cents in twenty twenty six. That would
be about a dollar extra for gas in two years.
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This is from the California Air Resources Board. This is
that unelected agency, which is its leaders are appointed by
the governor. So this is Gavin Newsom's California Air Resources Board.
And the secret plan is to make gas so unaffordable
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it'll force you into, I don't know, riding a horse
to work, maybe walking. I mean, they've been trying the
electric vehicle route, but those things are expensive and they
don't seem to work very well, not very efficient at
at giving you any meaningful range. God, you know what
(09:42):
I read, Ford is losing one hundred thousand dollars on
every EV they sell. I don't know how that's possible,
one hundred thousand dollars. So the electric car industry in
America is a bust. Do more on that later, But
they're gonna choke us with gas prices. If it's five
(10:05):
bucks now, the baseline will be six bucks in two years,
on top of whatever other price increases that the market
brings us. So we're gonna be paying six bucks a
gallon when everyone else will pay three. There are the
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California Air Researchers Board and there's no way to explain
this in English, but to summarize it, they have created
a regulation system that is going to force the force
the state to phase out fossil fuels. Your gas prices
will go up, electricity bills will go up. They're going
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to invoke a low carbon fuel standard that's going to
cost everybody money. And the staff has has admitted that
there's there could be there. Well, I mean, this came
from the staff of the California Air Resources Board. This
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is carb This is their admission. This is not some
outside partisan political agency. This is not some oil and
gas industry funded activist group. These are the bad guys
themselves saying, oh yeah, fifty cents more next year, fifty
cents more. You gotta stop driving your car. Don't you
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understand that's official California government policy. You have to stop
driving your car. And if you won't do that, we'll
force you out of it. We'll add so many regulations
that there's no way the gas and oil companies will
be able to manufacture fuel at a reasonable price. And
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if they do anyway, then we're going to tax the
crap out of it. Out. This is abusive. This is
what we've got what, almost forty million people in the state.
The other two hundred ninety million people are not dealing
with this. Only we are only we have these prices.
Only we have an air resources board that comes up
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with these complicated regulations that are so costly. I couldn't
even begin to explain it to you. It wouldn't make
any sense, and I don't trust it. I figure it's
all just a facade to cover up their real agenda,
which is to force us out of our cars. Now,
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it's impossible, especially in this state, to live a productive
life without a car. It simply is impossible. And they
know this, and they also know that too many Californians
reflexively vote for the same political party every year now
for decades, so they're not worried about a competing party
using this issue to run against them. They're just going
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to keep coming up with regulatory formulas and tax formulas,
and you know, you'll be paying six seven eight dollars
a gallon very soon, and then more and more as
the years go by, unless you stop it and you
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vote for different people in different parties. I mean, it's
it's going to be impossible for people to live on
I mean well, right now, I heard today like seventy
five percent of the country is on is on a
paycheck to paycheck. Seventy five percent they got nothing left
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at the end because the inflation is so high. Well,
this is going to drive inflation even further because all
the deliveries are going to cost more. Of all the products,
all the services, everything costs more when you add another
dollar to the game price, especially in a short period
of time. We're gonna talk more about this in detail
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coming up later in the show. At three point thirty,
we're gonna talk to Republican State Senator Janet Win and
she's calling us a secret tax increase, which is what
it is. So you've been told, and we'll be covering
this a lot in the coming weeks and months.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We're on from one until four. You ought to know
that by now after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on
demand on the iHeart app and you can listen to
what you missed. Like I said, we're gonna three thirty.
Mark that down three thirty. You want to hear this.
We're gonna have the Republican state Senator Janet went on,
because she's going public with the word that California. You you,
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because you're driving California, you may be penalized another fifty
cents per gallon of gas if you have a twenty
gallon tank. That is a ten dollars tax that's coming
next year, and then in twenty twenty six, another ten
dollars a gallon tax. Because this is I'm sorry, ten
dollars a tank tax. It's fifty cents a gallon. It's
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ten dollars a tank, fifty cents a gallon extra next year,
fifty cents a gallon extra in twenty twenty six. That's
a dollar extra. So you're going to be paying an
extra twenty dollars per tank full of gas in less
than two years because of the California Air Resources Board.
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And this is their own plan. This is what they're
admitting to, and you know, something's got to change here.
I did look up triple A gas prices and we're
we're at five twenty eight a gallon on average in
the state for regular Mississippi's at three oh seven. In fact,
there's sixteen states that are two dollars or more cheaper
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for gas than California anyway, be listening at three thirty.
Now more details have come out about the day that
there was a break into Karen Bass's house at the
mayoral mansion, and if you remember, they found a guy
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named Ephraim Hunter. He's twenty nine. He made it up
to the second floor. He'd smashed through a glass door
and apparently got chased a bit by Karen Bass's German shepherd.
It looks like there was a lot of security failures
along the way, but the one, the one employee that
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came through was the German shepherd. Let me explain. Ephraim
Hunter bust through a glass door and he tried to
access a number of bedrooms in home around six forty
in the morning. This is according to three law enforcement
sources who talked to the LA Times. When when Bass's
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family finally accosted him, he said he didn't know why
he was there. George Gascone had told reporters that Hunter
was targeting Bass. According to Gascone, Hunter made it clear
that he knew this was the mayor's home and that
he was looking for her, but Gascon never offered any specifics.
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A high ranking LA police official said investigators were confused
by Gascone's remarks. Nothing in the LAPD investigation suggested Hunter
had planned or plotted an attack against Bass, said the official.
I don't know what Gascone said. What he said, he
must be privy to something our investigators are not privied
to on. Maybe he made it up. Maybe he made
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it up because he's flailing in his campaign so he
wanted looked like he was on the case because he's
not commenting anymore on it, neither is his staff. Now,
this guy Hunter said he was on a multi day
drug binge and said he had no idea where he
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was Bassi's sudden. The laws screamed at him to get
the f out, and they think he was yelling his
brother's name, Aaron, not Karen. I guess that's why people
thought it was a targeted attack, because somebody thought he
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said Karen. But Hunter's brother's first name is Aaron, and
he'd been staying with his brother Aaron. And it looks
like this guy from Hunter was so whacked out on
drugs he didn't realize he wasn't in his brother's house,
but somehow he was in Karen Bass's house. Now, as
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far as security. There were no officers on the property
at the time of the break in because it occurred
during a shift change. This is good to know. Apparently
with la whoever was in charge of that particular protocol
at LAPD, you could break into Bass's house in between shifts.
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You would think, you know, if a guy shift edded
at for the new guy or new guys would show
upright at four, there wouldn't be any gaps. But there
was a gap. And I guess this happened by accident,
or maybe there's a lot of gaps. Then the second
thing is there was nobody looking at at the cameras.
There's surveillance cameras, nobody was monitoring them, because if somebody was,
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or if the new shift of cops had shown up,
the Bass or the police would have been alerted to
a hunter's spread before he smashed through the door. This
is very much like the Paul Pelosi situation up in
San Francisco, the husband of Nancy Pelosi. She's got cameras
on her house, her home in San Francisco, and somebody
in Washington, d C. Is supposed to be monitoring those
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screens and they didn't, and that guy came in and
hammered Paul Pelosi on the head. He's up. He's up
for sentencing soon as well. So the hero of this
is uh, a German shepherd named Stax, they rescue dog.
He's the one who went after Ephraim Hunter. He interrupted
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and delayed Hunter's attempts to break into the bedrooms. At
his actual audio of Stacks going after a Hunter. Now,
the dog didn't bite Hunter, but slowed him up, blocked
him out. And this this sap was on a ton
of drugs, so he probably didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Imagine if Biden's dog command was there, would have killed him, but.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
A groin shot would have went right for the goods there.
So the dog came through the police, not so much
people running the security camera is not so much there.
But the dog saved the day. All right, We got
more coming up. In fact, let me let me tell
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you about the Paul Pelosi case when we come back,
and then also set up will Swain. Will Swain from
Natural Review is coming on at two o'clock. This is
great stuff, you know. Julie Sue is Julie Sue used
to be the Labor secretary under Gavin Newsom and she's
the one who's in charge of the unemployment checks during COVID,
and we there was like thirty two billion dollars worth
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of fraud, maybe a lot more. So much fraudy, they'll
never be able to count it. Well, she got promoted
to be Biden's acting Secretary of Labor and her idea
is to get US taxpayers to bail her out for
her incompetence in California. The US taxpayers would cover the
thirty billion dollars that she gave away to fraudsters. Seriously,
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and there's a lot of a lot of people in
Congress who are having none of this, So we'll swain
from Nashville. You will explain that.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We were talking about Karen Bass being saved by your
German shepherd when that guy broke into the house. You
got to get a German shepherd. I mean, those two
little toy dogs you have, they're not going to help
you out.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Oh one of them barks very loudly. It's very annoying,
you know how you say that I would annoy somebody
trying to abduct me. Yes, my dog Mazy that's kind
of the situation with her.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So nobody should take you and Mazie get together. They'll
blow their brains totally. Have you ever thought getting like
a real German shepherd, like a real I don't have
a manly dog and have a that kind of a yard, unfortunately,
because Mayze's going to bark, but she can't, she can't
go for the kill.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I know I would love a German Shepherd, I just don't.
I don't have room for such a big dog.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, there was a total security failure at Karen Vass's house,
and the dog stack saved the day. There was also
a total security failure at Nancy Pelosi's home in San
Francisco back in twenty twenty two, and in that case,
the guy who broke in and busted Paul Pelosi's head
with a hammer is up for sentencing. And his name
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is David de pap and he's kind of like a
weirdo Berkeley hippie type, and something got into his head
that Pelosi was the uh well actually literally thought that
Pelosi was the root of all evil. I think that's
exactly what he said, and so he broke into their
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home in San Francisco, and if you remember, no arms
went off, and they also had monitoring equipment, and there
was somebody back in Washington, d C. That was supposed
to be monitoring the screens because she's the speaker of
the House at the time. But in the much the
same way as security wasn't monitoring the screens the cameras
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at Karen Bass's house, nobody was looking at Pelosi's house either.
Now Pelosi, the PAP's attorney, is asking for fourteen years.
The prosecutors are asking for forty. So the paps attorneys
are public defenders, Jody Linker and Angela Chang, And the
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reason they want the reduced sentence because really, this should
be an attempted murder. I don't know what it ended
up being, but yeah, I mean they you smack somebody
in the head three, well twice in the head with
a hammer, that should be equivalent to a murder charge.
(25:06):
It's shocking that policy survived this. But the public defenders
say they want to reduce sentence because the PAP had
an abusive Well they're blaming his girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Wait, they're blaming the girlfriend for what he did to
Pelosi's husband.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right, he busts into the house. He gets a hammer
and whacks Paul Pelosi on the head, and it's.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
The girlfriend's Paul, who wasn't there?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Correct? Very good, You could be a public defender. You
connected those dots fast, Yes I did. They claimed that
David de pap had an abusive, long term relationship with
a partner who exploited his innate vulnerabilities and immersed him
in a world of extreme beliefs where reality is not reality.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
How long were they together?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I don't know. Her influence began an a formative and
critical period in his life and extended far beyond the
end of their relationship, leaving him completely unmoored in the
years leading up to the offense, where he was further
radicalized through his obsessive consumption of media amplifying the extreme beliefs.
So it's whatever radio TV he was watching and a
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girlfriend nothing to do with him though two in the
morning he's smashing into the house whacking a guy on
the head with a hammer. None of it's his fault.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Did he listen to your podcast at the time?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You know, I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting. So do
you remember do you remember the I don't think you
were working here. Then we had a guy who went
on a murder spree in southern California. Yeah. Yeah, his
manifesto You're his favorite show, I know? Yeah wow, John, Yes, agree,
that's our claim to thing. Yeah, who do you inspire?
(27:01):
Has your show ever inspired anyone? Well? As a matter
of fact, so when de Pap broke into the Pelosi home,
he was looking for Nancy. He said he was going
to break her kneecaps if she lied to him. And
when the police arrived, that's when Paul Pelosi opened the
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door and to Pap hit him three times twice on
the head. Uh. The Pap said in a police interview
that Pelosi was the leader of the pack Nancy and
would break her kneecaps, and he wanted other wallmakers to
see the effing consequence to being the most evil, effing
people on the planet. He had a cross country plan
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to target other powerful people that he believed were involved
in a QAnon like conspiracy. He was going to root
out the corruption of the ruling class and stop them
molestation of children. So many of these people. Now everything
is about child molestation, and you think, you know, child
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molestation perpetrated by the elites and you think that sounds crazy,
And then I always remember, oh yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, maybe
all conspiracies are actually true. We've got more coming up.
All right, this is this is this is fascinating. Julie
Sue was Gavin Newsom's Secretary of Labor and she was
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running the Unemployment Department when COVID happened, and she lost
thirty three billion dollars to criminals, inmates and international crime gangs.
Thirty three billion dollars, lost so much money that we
can't we couldn't pay twenty billion dollars in a loan
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back to the government, back to the federal government. Julie Sue,
for all that incompetence in idiocy, got a promotion. Of course.
Now she's Biden's acting Secretary of Labor, and with that job,
she wants US taxpayers to clean up the mess and
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pay for the mess she left behind in Florida. She
wants US taxpayers to reimburse California for all the money
she allowed to be stolen by the criminals. Seriously, and
there's a lot of congress people who are rebelling against this.
Can you imagine, so these behind tens of billions of
dollars in debts. Here goes to Washington with a new
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job and tries to get the rest of the country
to pay for it. Talk to Will Swain from the
National Review. Coming up, Deborah Mark Live the KFI twenty
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Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Hello, it's good that
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you can listen to anything that you missed. We have
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a jam pack program full of fascinating stories today, really
really good stuff. But first, the Trump trial continues and
it's in the stretch run here. It's in the final
days at least for the prosecution case. And now they
have their big star witness to close out their case,
Michael Cohen, who used to be Trump's attorney. He used
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to be Trump's fixer, and he was the one charged
with fixing the Stormy Daniels situation and paying off Stormy
Daniels one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. And of course
this is turned into state and federal charge against Trump
by Alvin Bragg, Manhattan County District Attorney. It's a curious case.
(01:05):
It seems to be a politically motivated case. But it's
still going on, and you don't know what the jur
and jurors of New York City are going to do,
and today Cohen testified it. We've got Dave Packer from
ABC News to talk about today's proceedings. David, how are you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm doing well. Yeah. So right now we're seeing a
bunch of documents being presented into evidence, and these are
statements from a bank account. Basically, a shell company was
created and a bank account was taken out in that
shell's company's shell company's name for the express purpose of
paying Stormy Daniels the hush money. Now, we heard Cohen
(01:46):
testifying earlier that that Trump had gone to David Packer
from the National Inquirer, who had, by the way, paid
off the previous McDougall paid, and so wanted maybe to
do a catch and kill on Stormy Daniels. And he
said Pecker's had at the time, Well, listen, I'm not
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a bank. In other words, he's not going to pay
for another one. So Trump would have to be on
his own. And so then there was this mad scramble
that Cohen is describing because the Access Hollywood tape had
just came out in twenty sixteen. The election was just
around the corner, and they wanted to quiet this story,
and so we heard testimony about that leading up to
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this hush money payment.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Now, has the hush money payments by themselves are not crimes.
Has the prosecution tied this into the real meat of
the case is that it's a federal election law violation
because he was spending the money to suppress the story.
If it gotten out, it might have changed the course
of the elections. Have they gotten to that yet, because
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that's the if they're going to get a conviction, it
has to be on that right.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you know, this testimony from Cohen has kind of
I've brought together some of this more disparate testimony that
you heard from different witnesses throughout the weeks of this trial.
It's sort of bringing it together. But again, you know,
they're laying out these facts, and you know that's something
in closing arguments that they're going to have to present
and really make that case. So again, you know, we
(03:18):
do have these hush money payments. The process by which
the hush money payment got to her was was kind
of shady because the shell company they went to the
bank and basically misrepresented what this company was going to
be doing for consulting fees, and it turned out it
was going to be for a payment. Colan on the
stand said, well, if I had told them the truth,
the bank would have never you know, opened this account
(03:40):
with me. So but yes, so, you know, the case
has got to be made by the prosecution that these
activities were for the express purpose of influencing the presidential election.
And that's the case, and that's going to have to
be driven home in closing arguments.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So the charges about falsifying business records relate to this
shell company specifically, or.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, so well yeah, yeah. Basically, the Trump organization portrayed
the reimbursement of Michael Cone because he, you know, testified
that he took out a home equity loan to pay
off Stormy Daniels, So this was out of his own
money and then he was being reimbursed the Trump organization.
(04:25):
In their books and in their filing and their tax
returns and everything else, they were listing these as consulting
fees when in fact, as a prosecution contends, they were
meant to reimburse Michael Cohne for the money that he
paid Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I see, okay, through the shell company, correct, I see.
That's the first that I can remember hearing that they
created a company just to channel these payments through to Cohen,
who was then, you know, to reimburse them for what
he sent to Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, exactly, And you know there was a Cohen was
kind of upset, and he's talking now on the stand
about how he after he made this payment. Shortly after that,
it was bonus time and his bonus was cut by
two thirds, which he wasn't happy about. And so they
were talking about that, and then he got a call
while he was on vacation, Trump saying, no, what we're
(05:18):
gonna We're gonna make this good. He thought he was
talking about the bonus. It turned out he was talking
about the hush money payment. That he would take care
of that, but he was definitely disgruntled at the time.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All Right, Dave Packer, I guess no one's confusing you
with the David Pecker. Right. We have a lot of
jokes around here. I wanted to add one more. We're
having fun, all right, Dave, Thanks for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're bat take care, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's Dave Packer, not to be confused with David Packer,
the head of the National Inquirer. Dave Packer's the ABC
News correspondent. He's been on the Trump case all along. Here.
You know, there's certain words, loaded phrases like shell company,
hush money, that gives you the feeling that something illegal
(06:05):
is happening. Not necessarily, shell companies are legal, hush money
is legal. Reimbursing your your fixer, attorney, that's legal. So
even these all these terms have tawdry connotations, in fact,
by themselves, there's nothing wrong with it. What what the
(06:26):
charges are is that by misidentifying in the ledger what
these payments were for, it was to affect the election outcome.
And so this is federal election interference charges. That's what
the felonies are about. It relates to every single time
a payment was put in the ledger, every time a
(06:48):
check was written, every time an invoice. You know, every
charge was multiplied by three to make it look far
worse than it is. But you know, there's not a
person alive that would be charged with this crime except
for Trump. And it's worth reiterating that every other law
(07:11):
enforcement agency on federal, state, local levels, all passed on
this case, including Alvin Bragg originally as well, But there
must have been some intense political pressure behind the scenes
to give it a go, if for nothing else, just
to embarrass Trump, keep him from campaigning, keep his name
(07:34):
in the headlines with this tawdry sex affair. Well, we
got more coming up, and boy do we have a
good show for you. We'll get into all that next.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Gas prices, as you know they are, I paid five
dollars a gallon, and it's about two bucks cheaper in
the rest of the country. Much of the rest of
the country. People are getting bloodied by Gavin Newsom and
the California Legislature and the California Air Resources Board every day.
(08:13):
It's costing you, really thousands of dollars over time, thousands
and thousands of extra dollars for gas that nobody else
in the country has to pay for. And now, according
to the staff of California's leading air quality regulator, it
(08:35):
looks as if a program that's been on the books
will raise gas prices by about fifty cents next year
and another fifty cents in twenty twenty six. That would
be about a dollar extra for gas in two years.
(08:57):
This is from the California Air Resources Board. This is
that unelected agency, which is its leaders are appointed by
the governor. So this is Gavin Newsom's California Air Resources Board.
And the secret plan is to make gas so unaffordable
(09:19):
it'll force you into, I don't know, riding a horse
to work, maybe walking. I mean, they've been trying the
electric vehicle route, but those things are expensive and they
don't seem to work very well, not very efficient at
at giving you any meaningful range. God, you know what
(09:42):
I read, Ford is losing one hundred thousand dollars on
every EV they sell. I don't know how that's possible,
one hundred thousand dollars. So the electric car industry in
America is a bust. Do more on that later, But
they're gonna choke us with gas prices. If it's five
(10:05):
bucks now, the baseline will be six bucks in two years,
on top of whatever other price increases that the market
brings us. So we're gonna be paying six bucks a
gallon when everyone else will pay three. There are the
(10:25):
California Air Researchers Board and there's no way to explain
this in English, but to summarize it, they have created
a regulation system that is going to force the force
the state to phase out fossil fuels. Your gas prices
will go up, electricity bills will go up. They're going
(10:50):
to invoke a low carbon fuel standard that's going to
cost everybody money. And the staff has has admitted that
there's there could be there. Well, I mean, this came
from the staff of the California Air Resources Board. This
(11:11):
is carb This is their admission. This is not some
outside partisan political agency. This is not some oil and
gas industry funded activist group. These are the bad guys
themselves saying, oh yeah, fifty cents more next year, fifty
cents more. You gotta stop driving your car. Don't you
(11:35):
understand that's official California government policy. You have to stop
driving your car. And if you won't do that, we'll
force you out of it. We'll add so many regulations
that there's no way the gas and oil companies will
be able to manufacture fuel at a reasonable price. And
(11:55):
if they do anyway, then we're going to tax the
crap out of it. Out. This is abusive. This is
what we've got what, almost forty million people in the state.
The other two hundred ninety million people are not dealing
with this. Only we are only we have these prices.
Only we have an air resources board that comes up
(12:17):
with these complicated regulations that are so costly. I couldn't
even begin to explain it to you. It wouldn't make
any sense, and I don't trust it. I figure it's
all just a facade to cover up their real agenda,
which is to force us out of our cars. Now,
(12:39):
it's impossible, especially in this state, to live a productive
life without a car. It simply is impossible. And they
know this, and they also know that too many Californians
reflexively vote for the same political party every year now
for decades, so they're not worried about a competing party
using this issue to run against them. They're just going
(13:02):
to keep coming up with regulatory formulas and tax formulas,
and you know, you'll be paying six seven eight dollars
a gallon very soon, and then more and more as
the years go by, unless you stop it and you
(13:24):
vote for different people in different parties. I mean, it's
it's going to be impossible for people to live on
I mean well, right now, I heard today like seventy
five percent of the country is on is on a
paycheck to paycheck. Seventy five percent they got nothing left
(13:47):
at the end because the inflation is so high. Well,
this is going to drive inflation even further because all
the deliveries are going to cost more. Of all the products,
all the services, everything costs more when you add another
dollar to the game price, especially in a short period
of time. We're gonna talk more about this in detail
(14:07):
coming up later in the show. At three point thirty,
we're gonna talk to Republican State Senator Janet Win and
she's calling us a secret tax increase, which is what
it is. So you've been told, and we'll be covering
this a lot in the coming weeks and months.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We're on from one until four. You ought to know
that by now after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on
demand on the iHeart app and you can listen to
what you missed. Like I said, we're gonna three thirty.
Mark that down three thirty. You want to hear this.
We're gonna have the Republican state Senator Janet went on,
because she's going public with the word that California. You you,
(14:50):
because you're driving California, you may be penalized another fifty
cents per gallon of gas if you have a twenty
gallon tank. That is a ten dollars tax that's coming
next year, and then in twenty twenty six, another ten
dollars a gallon tax. Because this is I'm sorry, ten
dollars a tank tax. It's fifty cents a gallon. It's
(15:12):
ten dollars a tank, fifty cents a gallon extra next year,
fifty cents a gallon extra in twenty twenty six. That's
a dollar extra. So you're going to be paying an
extra twenty dollars per tank full of gas in less
than two years because of the California Air Resources Board.
(15:33):
And this is their own plan. This is what they're
admitting to, and you know, something's got to change here.
I did look up triple A gas prices and we're
we're at five twenty eight a gallon on average in
the state for regular Mississippi's at three oh seven. In fact,
there's sixteen states that are two dollars or more cheaper
(15:57):
for gas than California anyway, be listening at three thirty.
Now more details have come out about the day that
there was a break into Karen Bass's house at the
mayoral mansion, and if you remember, they found a guy
(16:19):
named Ephraim Hunter. He's twenty nine. He made it up
to the second floor. He'd smashed through a glass door
and apparently got chased a bit by Karen Bass's German shepherd.
It looks like there was a lot of security failures
along the way, but the one, the one employee that
(16:44):
came through was the German shepherd. Let me explain. Ephraim
Hunter bust through a glass door and he tried to
access a number of bedrooms in home around six forty
in the morning. This is according to three law enforcement
sources who talked to the LA Times. When when Bass's
(17:10):
family finally accosted him, he said he didn't know why
he was there. George Gascone had told reporters that Hunter
was targeting Bass. According to Gascone, Hunter made it clear
that he knew this was the mayor's home and that
he was looking for her, but Gascon never offered any specifics.
(17:34):
A high ranking LA police official said investigators were confused
by Gascone's remarks. Nothing in the LAPD investigation suggested Hunter
had planned or plotted an attack against Bass, said the official.
I don't know what Gascone said. What he said, he
must be privy to something our investigators are not privied
to on. Maybe he made it up. Maybe he made
(17:57):
it up because he's flailing in his campaign so he
wanted looked like he was on the case because he's
not commenting anymore on it, neither is his staff. Now,
this guy Hunter said he was on a multi day
drug binge and said he had no idea where he
(18:19):
was Bassi's sudden. The laws screamed at him to get
the f out, and they think he was yelling his
brother's name, Aaron, not Karen. I guess that's why people
thought it was a targeted attack, because somebody thought he
(18:41):
said Karen. But Hunter's brother's first name is Aaron, and
he'd been staying with his brother Aaron. And it looks
like this guy from Hunter was so whacked out on
drugs he didn't realize he wasn't in his brother's house,
but somehow he was in Karen Bass's house. Now, as
(19:02):
far as security. There were no officers on the property
at the time of the break in because it occurred
during a shift change. This is good to know. Apparently
with la whoever was in charge of that particular protocol
at LAPD, you could break into Bass's house in between shifts.
(19:27):
You would think, you know, if a guy shift edded
at for the new guy or new guys would show
upright at four, there wouldn't be any gaps. But there
was a gap. And I guess this happened by accident,
or maybe there's a lot of gaps. Then the second
thing is there was nobody looking at at the cameras.
There's surveillance cameras, nobody was monitoring them, because if somebody was,
(19:53):
or if the new shift of cops had shown up,
the Bass or the police would have been alerted to
a hunter's spread before he smashed through the door. This
is very much like the Paul Pelosi situation up in
San Francisco, the husband of Nancy Pelosi. She's got cameras
on her house, her home in San Francisco, and somebody
in Washington, d C. Is supposed to be monitoring those
(20:16):
screens and they didn't, and that guy came in and
hammered Paul Pelosi on the head. He's up. He's up
for sentencing soon as well. So the hero of this
is uh, a German shepherd named Stax, they rescue dog.
He's the one who went after Ephraim Hunter. He interrupted
(20:38):
and delayed Hunter's attempts to break into the bedrooms. At
his actual audio of Stacks going after a Hunter. Now,
the dog didn't bite Hunter, but slowed him up, blocked
him out. And this this sap was on a ton
of drugs, so he probably didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Imagine if Biden's dog command was there, would have killed him, but.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
A groin shot would have went right for the goods there.
So the dog came through the police, not so much
people running the security camera is not so much there.
But the dog saved the day. All right, We got
more coming up. In fact, let me let me tell
(21:26):
you about the Paul Pelosi case when we come back,
and then also set up will Swain. Will Swain from
Natural Review is coming on at two o'clock. This is
great stuff, you know. Julie Sue is Julie Sue used
to be the Labor secretary under Gavin Newsom and she's
the one who's in charge of the unemployment checks during COVID,
and we there was like thirty two billion dollars worth
(21:48):
of fraud, maybe a lot more. So much fraudy, they'll
never be able to count it. Well, she got promoted
to be Biden's acting Secretary of Labor and her idea
is to get US taxpayers to bail her out for
her incompetence in California. The US taxpayers would cover the
thirty billion dollars that she gave away to fraudsters. Seriously,
(22:12):
and there's a lot of a lot of people in
Congress who are having none of this, So we'll swain
from Nashville. You will explain that.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We were talking about Karen Bass being saved by your
German shepherd when that guy broke into the house. You
got to get a German shepherd. I mean, those two
little toy dogs you have, they're not going to help
you out.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Oh one of them barks very loudly. It's very annoying,
you know how you say that I would annoy somebody
trying to abduct me. Yes, my dog Mazy that's kind
of the situation with her.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So nobody should take you and Mazie get together. They'll
blow their brains totally. Have you ever thought getting like
a real German shepherd, like a real I don't have
a manly dog and have a that kind of a yard, unfortunately,
because Mayze's going to bark, but she can't, she can't
go for the kill.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I know I would love a German Shepherd, I just don't.
I don't have room for such a big dog.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, there was a total security failure at Karen Vass's house,
and the dog stack saved the day. There was also
a total security failure at Nancy Pelosi's home in San
Francisco back in twenty twenty two, and in that case,
the guy who broke in and busted Paul Pelosi's head
with a hammer is up for sentencing. And his name
(23:35):
is David de pap and he's kind of like a
weirdo Berkeley hippie type, and something got into his head
that Pelosi was the uh well actually literally thought that
Pelosi was the root of all evil. I think that's
exactly what he said, and so he broke into their
(23:57):
home in San Francisco, and if you remember, no arms
went off, and they also had monitoring equipment, and there
was somebody back in Washington, d C. That was supposed
to be monitoring the screens because she's the speaker of
the House at the time. But in the much the
same way as security wasn't monitoring the screens the cameras
(24:19):
at Karen Bass's house, nobody was looking at Pelosi's house either.
Now Pelosi, the PAP's attorney, is asking for fourteen years.
The prosecutors are asking for forty. So the paps attorneys
are public defenders, Jody Linker and Angela Chang, And the
(24:46):
reason they want the reduced sentence because really, this should
be an attempted murder. I don't know what it ended
up being, but yeah, I mean they you smack somebody
in the head three, well twice in the head with
a hammer, that should be equivalent to a murder charge.
(25:06):
It's shocking that policy survived this. But the public defenders
say they want to reduce sentence because the PAP had
an abusive Well they're blaming his girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Wait, they're blaming the girlfriend for what he did to
Pelosi's husband.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right, he busts into the house. He gets a hammer
and whacks Paul Pelosi on the head, and it's.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
The girlfriend's Paul, who wasn't there?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Correct? Very good, You could be a public defender. You
connected those dots fast, Yes I did. They claimed that
David de pap had an abusive, long term relationship with
a partner who exploited his innate vulnerabilities and immersed him
in a world of extreme beliefs where reality is not reality.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
How long were they together?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I don't know. Her influence began an a formative and
critical period in his life and extended far beyond the
end of their relationship, leaving him completely unmoored in the
years leading up to the offense, where he was further
radicalized through his obsessive consumption of media amplifying the extreme beliefs.
So it's whatever radio TV he was watching and a
(26:25):
girlfriend nothing to do with him though two in the
morning he's smashing into the house whacking a guy on
the head with a hammer. None of it's his fault.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Did he listen to your podcast at the time?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You know, I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting. So do
you remember do you remember the I don't think you
were working here. Then we had a guy who went
on a murder spree in southern California. Yeah. Yeah, his
manifesto You're his favorite show, I know? Yeah wow, John, Yes, agree,
that's our claim to thing. Yeah, who do you inspire?
(27:01):
Has your show ever inspired anyone? Well? As a matter
of fact, so when de Pap broke into the Pelosi home,
he was looking for Nancy. He said he was going
to break her kneecaps if she lied to him. And
when the police arrived, that's when Paul Pelosi opened the
(27:23):
door and to Pap hit him three times twice on
the head. Uh. The Pap said in a police interview
that Pelosi was the leader of the pack Nancy and
would break her kneecaps, and he wanted other wallmakers to
see the effing consequence to being the most evil, effing
people on the planet. He had a cross country plan
(27:47):
to target other powerful people that he believed were involved
in a QAnon like conspiracy. He was going to root
out the corruption of the ruling class and stop them
molestation of children. So many of these people. Now everything
is about child molestation, and you think, you know, child
(28:08):
molestation perpetrated by the elites and you think that sounds crazy,
And then I always remember, oh yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, maybe
all conspiracies are actually true. We've got more coming up.
All right, this is this is this is fascinating. Julie
Sue was Gavin Newsom's Secretary of Labor and she was
(28:31):
running the Unemployment Department when COVID happened, and she lost
thirty three billion dollars to criminals, inmates and international crime gangs.
Thirty three billion dollars, lost so much money that we
can't we couldn't pay twenty billion dollars in a loan
(28:51):
back to the government, back to the federal government. Julie Sue,
for all that incompetence in idiocy, got a promotion. Of course.
Now she's Biden's acting Secretary of Labor, and with that job,
she wants US taxpayers to clean up the mess and
(29:13):
pay for the mess she left behind in Florida. She
wants US taxpayers to reimburse California for all the money
she allowed to be stolen by the criminals. Seriously, and
there's a lot of congress people who are rebelling against this.
Can you imagine, so these behind tens of billions of
dollars in debts. Here goes to Washington with a new
(29:37):
job and tries to get the rest of the country
to pay for it. Talk to Will Swain from the
National Review. Coming up, Deborah Mark Live the KFI twenty
four hour newsren. Hey, you've been listening to The John
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