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May 13, 2024 30 mins

The mother of the victims, Nancy Iskander comes on the show to talk about Gascon replacing the prosecutor in the Rebecca Grossman case. A woman is going after Alaska Airlines for putting her next to an overweight person who took up too much room. More on California losing over $30 billion dollars during the COVID pandemic. Trump is ahead of Biden in some swing states now. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're with you every day from one until four and
then after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on
the iHeart app. We had been promoting that State Senator
Janet Win was going to come on with us at
three point thirty to talk about this abomination. A fifty

(00:22):
cent increase in gas prices each of the next two years,
fifty cents in twenty twenty five, another fifty cents in
twenty twenty six. Another regulation, a low carbon fuel standard
from the California Air Resources Board that would be a

(00:42):
dollars worth of gas taxes over a two year period.
It was ticking like a time bomb in the California
Air Resources Board master plan, and it's supposed to go
into effect fifty cents next year, fifty cents in twenty
twenty six. Janet when will come on with us tomorrow
at three o'clock to talk about it? Because that rage

(01:06):
just doesn't begin to describe what that is. We're going
to talk now with Nancy Iskander. Nancy suffered the worst
tragedy her sons, Mark and Jacob Ages eleven and eight
were struck and killed in a crosswalk back in September
of twenty twenty in Westlake Village, killed as you probably
have heard, by Rebecca Grossman, the wife and co founder

(01:29):
of Well, the wife of doctor Peter Grossman, and they
are the kel founders of the Grossman Burn Center in
the valley. She was drinking. She may have had some
prescription drugs in her as well. And Rebecca had been
drinking with her boyfriend that she was having an affair
with Scott Erickson, the former Dodger, and they were racing

(01:50):
into this intersection and Rebecca rammed into the two boys
and they were struck and killed. They were supposed to
be Well Grossman supposed to be sentenced. She got convicted
of second degree murder. The whole case has been thrown
up in the air when it comes to sentencing because
the prosecutors working for us, working for the Iskander family,

(02:13):
have been taken off the case by George Gascone. Why well,
because Rebecca Grossman has an attorneyamed James Spurtis. Spurtus is
now also the attorney for Gascone's top assistant, Da Diana
Tauran She's been charged with eleven felonies for illegal accessing

(02:35):
records of sheriff's deputies. So Diana Tehuran hired James Spurtis,
who was already Grossman's attorney. There's clearly a conflict of
interest because if Spurtus is working against gasconon prosecutors and
is representing a gascon prosecutor, that can't stand. So gascone

(02:56):
removes the prosecutors from the case. On the prosecution side,
I I'm just stunned at this. So let's talk to
Nancy Iskander. It's our first interview with us. Nancy, welcome
to the show. How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm good things, How are you all right?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I just want to offer my condolences, not that it
means much, but I'm really sorry. What happened to your signs.
I've got three signs and I can I can understand
that terrible pain and four years you have to wait
for this, for this trial to happen, and now and
now this what I don't understand. If these prosecutors aren't

(03:38):
going to work on the case for the sentencing, then who.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Is So on Friday, we were informed that our prosecutors
were removed from the case, and they are no longer
allowed to speak in the name of Martin Jacob after
they've been working on the case for four years. We heard,

(04:02):
we learned that even we're not allowed to speak with
them because it's now a firewall between them and anything
to do with Mark and Jacob. We were not informed
of who will take the case or where are we.
We felt very we were so confused, disappointed. These were

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the people we worked with since day one. They knew us,
they knew Rebecca Grossman in her games, they knew the boys,
even they kind of got to know who Mark the
scander was and who Jacob was. So only today we
are we've been told that the case will go to

(04:44):
someone else in major crimes.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
And after we've kind of spoken about it, we were
told that Ryan and Jamie, our prosecutors, will be assisting
the new person taking on the case. I'm still not
entirely sure what the roles will be on the case.

(05:07):
We're extremely sad and disappointed still because this is the
sentencing was our last step in the process.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Sure, and you've got prosecutors who've been on this case
for years, and so what I don't understand is if
they're going to put another prosecutor on the case, Well,
that's still going to be somebody working for Gascone. So
there's still a conflict of interest here. And the conflict
of interest is created by the defense attorney, not by
the prosecutors on your side.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Right, the conflict of interest is coming purely from the
attorney Missus Grossman hired. He also represents someone in the
Edmund's office, and this is the true reason for the
conflict of interest, not the prosecution. If we don't want
conflict of interest, he needs to not be on the case.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Right, very simple, right, because the team should stay intact
and to argue on behalf of your family to get
the proper sentencing done. I don't understand why they're getting
tossed off because Rebecca Grossman chose chose James Spurtus unless
this was one of the reasons she chose him. I mean,
because obviously she's a terribly manipulative woman.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
We've seen that Missus Grossman had different strategies before in
the trial. I mean, we've been we've been in this
for four years, and every time we feel like we
think we're done and we can now focus on our
or boy who survived and his trauma after seeing both

(06:41):
his older brothers die. Missus Grossman comes up with something else.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, I mean, I mean the prosecutors that gascones were moving,
Jamie Castro and Ryan Gould, they have no connection.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Do they have any connection with Diana Tauran.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
We we know that a sister on I believe got
updates on the case from them during the trial. I
don't we don't know anything in particular that would warn
them to be removed. We're not aware of anything. They
did nothing wrong, there's no there's not a conflict, per se,

(07:27):
per understanding.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, I'm looking through I've been looking through various news
stories and I just I just don't see why your
prosecutors would be removed in this case because it's got
nothing to do with them. The case involving Diana Tauran
has nothing to do with them, and Rebecca Grossman hiring
Jamee Spurtis has nothing to do with them.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's It's also important to point out that Diana Turan
was overseeing many, many other cases, maybe hundreds, and none
of them were impacted. No other prosecutors were removed from
their cases except for the Mark and Jacob case. I
don't know why it is my case so.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Special, And there's Gasconne's office is not explaining this to
you at all.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
We did seek to the office, they were they were
kind to us, I'll say for sure. They did say
that they have the best interest in mind and they
they want us to They would like to get us
the best results. But we now have to work with
a different person.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Does this delay the sentencing?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Uh, This will depend on the decision that the judge
will take this Friday. If the judge decide that mister
Spurs cannot be on the case, then yes, there will
be a delay. If the judge does not see any
conflict of interest from that end, then sentencing will happen
to intent.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because I noticed in the La Times, Taran has long
been represented by Spurtus's law firm, going back to twenty nineteen.
One of Spurtus's colleagues represented her during a civil case
correct over the sheriff's records that led to the criminal charges.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So there's that. I don't know. It's just like you
haven't been through enough.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I know. We are hoping that at some point we're
able to focus on our family and take care of
ourselves and try to get up on our feet again
and do the best good in the name of Mark
and Jacob. But for now, missus Grosman keeps taking us back.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah. Now, she's an evil woman. She's a terrible woman.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, Nancy, thank you for coming on with us, and
I hope the sorts itself out soon and we'll keep
on top of this story to let everybody else know it.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
All right, Thanks Nancy, You're welcome. More coming up.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You're listening to John Coebelt on demand from KFI A
M six forty.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Can you imagine getting an upgrade to your airline seat.
You're taken to first class. It's a middle seat, but
you know it's expansive because it's first class, right, And
you look over and the person sitting in the window.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Seat is enormous huge, How huge?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, the woman who got the upgrade said, when she
looked at the woman in the window seat, she described
her as having t Rex arms, and apparently her fat
rolls were billowing over the the arm rest into her
middle seat. This, this woman who got the upgrade, this

(10:58):
worst upgrade in airline history, went after Alaska Airlines because
she she said, she she had to sit there for
two hours and was left in physical discomfort because of
a very large seat mate with t rex arms.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Did she try to get her coach seat back.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, I'd rather go and sit the economy.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Go back to the economy class here, she said, she
was placed in the middle seat to a very large passenger.
She was so close she could feel their body heats
because yeah, fat people emanate, emanate a lot of warmth.
She was flying from Juno to Anchorage, and you think, well,

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it's Alaska, so that's not a short flight. That's two hours.
And her company had bought a seat in the main cabin,
but she had gold status, so she got a premium
middle seat. And I approached. I was supposed to be
nine E, she's in nine F. She had our arm
rested up and was overhanging it into my seat by

(12:03):
a good third of the way. She said she wasn't rude.
I did not make anyone uncomfortable or embarrass anyone. I
simply slid my backpack under the seat and sucked into
my seat. But I was physically touching and pushing into
this person along the full left side of me, so
there was a lot of blubber. I felt their body

(12:26):
heat my left arm could not come down and casually
rest because it would be on their stomach.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
That's yeah. I wouldn't like.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
That, so I had to extend my left arm out
onto the headrest for the whole flight. I didn't complain
because there were no empty seats and I didn't want
to draw any more attention to this. I sucked it up,
put on my best face. When she finally one of
the flight attendants came by in mouth, I'm so sorry. Ways,

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he didn't want to make a big deal about it,
but now it's national news and you're talking about it.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
She didn't want to make a big deal at the time.
She didn't want to embarrass the woman at the time.
You're yeah, I know, but you're not. She's not going
to go haywire on the plane, right, and then we
have a tear in the skies situation.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's fair, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
She spoke to an Alaska rep when she got off
the plane, and she was offered fifty dollars fifty dollars
or or thirty five hundred miles. They couldn't help her
at the desk, so she ended up on a customer
service call, and that was thirty minutes and apparently the

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rule is on Alaska, if you're that big, you're supposed
to buy two seats.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I was going to say, so, how come she didn't
buy the two seats?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
They didn't enforce the rule.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Now, what would you have done, John Cobalt if you
were upgraded to first class?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
First class? Yes, that stuff makes me furious. There's a
certain kind of arrogance people like that have whe where
they you know, they don't they don't take care of
their own business. They should insist on paying for two seats.
Like she doesn't care that she's her role fat roles
are lopping over me, But I'm supposed to care about

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her feelings. Well, the problem you have is you know,
you don't want to start a write in a plane
because you'll get a rest.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
That's what I just said when Eric made his comment.
But I don't know if people that are obese even
know they're obese. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you don't, you.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Know how we all Sometimes I wonder if they know.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
They get so used to it, there's some kind of denial,
so maybe they don't realize that they're lopped over. Because
the first if you have any sensitivity you'd automatically buy
two seats, right.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
You would think. But I'm sure if you asked a
sample of very large people, maybe they don't know that
that's what you do. Maybe they think maybe that woman thought, Okay,
it's a first class seat. It's going to be extra big,
so I don't need to buy two seats.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well, it seems to me that that the oversized person
has the obligation to make things right.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
But it also is the crew on that plane. Well,
you should have said, did you buy two seats? Because
you know we have this policy. I know it's uncomfortable.
Take the woman outside, you know, maybe so she's not embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
See, once you're on the plane, you're screwed. Yes, And
you know, pre nine to eleven, you could make a
ruckissan a plane and you had some leverage.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Now you can't because you're on a no fly list.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Well, the benefit, I mean the plus side. John, I'm
always looking.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Little miss optimism, that's me.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
It was only two hours. Can you imagine if it
was cross country?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
No? No, you know I'm not good with people's body
odors and.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Either, and I'm not good with the wet coffee either.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Behind me. I had, you know, I had that for
nine hours. Once we do.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
We're doing a plane I think from Newark to la
which was a six hour flight, and it was on
the ground for three hours before that. And this guy
had tuberculosis. I think he was hacking up a wet cough,
violent coughing, sitting next to him for nine hours.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
See now, why doesn't that person Okay, this is pre pandemic,
so I understand probably doesn't have a mask, but take
your shirt and cover your face, don't cough.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Take a plastic bag.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
That's so disgusting and so rude. I think I would
rather sit next to the extra large person than having
somebody tuberculosis coffee behind me.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's Monday.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
We've already given you two and a half hours worth
of material to complain about. Eight seven seven moist eighty
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after four o'clock too. You know what, we got a
couple of themes going on this afternoon. What is and
it's really worth listening to if you missed it and

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listen to the podcast we talk with. We talked about
the Julie Sue situation. You may have heard that name.
She certainly came up plenty often in the last few years.
She used to be the California Labor Secretary and she
was in charge of the Unemployment department when over thirty
three billion dollars was given away to fraudsters. A total
of thirty three billion was given to inmates in California prisons,

(17:41):
including Scott Peterson, all kinds of the random criminals, international
fraud rings all over.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
All over the world. She blew thirty three billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Now she got promoted to being Biden's Labor Secretary, and
she has devised a plan to use US text pay
money to reimburse California for all the fraud she's responsible for.
So she blew the money. She had no anti fraud protocol,

(18:12):
let's put it in technical terms.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
None.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
If you asked for money from California during COVID, you
got it.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
No questions asked. If you wanted unemployment money.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
They didn't care if you worked, They didn't care if
you were a citizen, whether you lived in the country,
they didn't care if you were on the other side
of the world as part of some criminal ring thirty
three billion dollars. Because she never bothered and she was
grilled in Congress and started babbling about equity or some
you know, all that nonsense. It's just gibberish. It's like

(18:48):
a Elon Musk had the right word for it. It's
a mind virus, diversity, inclusion, equity. They chanted like a
prayer to ward off evil spirits. Whenever they're charged within compts,
they don't explain themselves. And this is common in the
Newsom administration. And if you noticed a few days ago,
they had a hearing in Sacramento grilling Newsom's housing officials.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Kind of the same issue.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Billions of dollars are spent on homelessness, and nobody has
any records of where the money went. They don't even
keep records. I think that's what's shocking. They don't keep records.
They did an audit. If you remember some weeks ago,
they spent twenty four billion dollars in five years. Homelessness

(19:37):
has shot up dramatically, though ever since we've spent the money,
it's getting funneled through these nonprofits, which I swear to
you are mostly criminal, even some far left wing Assembly
people like Phil Ting from San Francisco. He was wailing
away on the Newsome officials during this hearing. You come

(19:58):
to a budget committee, there's no numbers how many people
have we helped, how many people are off the streets,
because that's what the public wants to know. What's the
money been spent on. And like Julie Sue muttering gibberish,
in this case, it was Megan Marshall. She's an executive
with the California Interagency Counsel on Homelessness. I don't know

(20:21):
what that is. It's supposed to track the homeless money,
but they never did. And what I'm seeing in these
stories is that they don't even try to do their job.
They simply send out checks to whoever, or transmit money
electronically to whoever, and then that's it. Whether it's used
or not, whether it's stolen, whether it works or not.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Now, there's always some of that in government, but newsoce
people because they know there's one party rule that their
administration will never be voted out of office, that the
next Democrat that takes over, we'll keep all of them on. Well,
what does it matter? Why track the money? Newsom doesn't care. Well,

(21:15):
Megan Marshall starts battling something about how the system is
undergoing transformation and we're working through data quality issues. All
you have to do is a ledger. It's like a checkbook.
If it gave a million dollars to homeless crook nonprofit,
then just write that down homeless crooked nonprofit million dollars.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
They don't have that.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
In fact, the State Artit found that Marshall's agency had
not evaluated program success or monitored spending. Well, those were
the only two jobs she had. Who the hell is
this woman? Here's another one, Megan Kirkabee. She's with the
California Department of Housing and Community Development. Another long title.

(22:02):
The longer the title, the more likely it's some kind
of criminal activity.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
She said. Cities and counties that received.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Some grants were not required to show the state how
they spent homeless Homelessness program funding. Meantime, Karen Bass and
other males went to Sacramento last month wanting more money,
except they never showed what they did with the old money.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Because they didn't have to.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
In fact, I think now locally the La City Council
is starting to complain, well, what did you do with
the money? All of a sudden, everyone's awakened after what
four or five?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Six? Seven years?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean it's seven years since we passed a couple
of major funding measures, those propositions back in twenty seventeen,
seven years, and.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Only now they're going, hey, where'd that money go? Would
we do? Did it even work?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I guess not? Whoops? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
What do they do all day? They don't even try.
That's what's amazing. They don't even try. They don't care
because nobody asks. You have one party rule and you
have no media covering any of this. So now after
seven years, after seven freaking years, it finally dawned on
even the worst legislators in Sacramento like, wow, this is bad,

(23:21):
isn't it? Because they have a huge budget deficit and
now they got to start cutting all kinds of programs
and everybody's going to be squealing and whining and crying.
And now they're looking around saying, well, what do we
do with all the money, and how come there's still
bodies stacked up all over the place. Unbelievably bad. One
party rule is horrible. Nothing changes people's voting patterns. It's fascinating.

(23:48):
More coming up.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I don't know how much news about Trump permeates the
California bubble, but the New York Times and the Philadelphia
Inquirer and Santa College had did a polling, and you know,
I'm skeptical of all polling. You have to be right,
but they are getting the same result over and over

(24:16):
and over again. So if it's wrong, they're all wrong.
But they've got now Trump ahead of Biden in most
of the swing states, and the margins increasing. In Georgia
and Arizona. It's getting big enough that they're not even
a swing state anymore. And Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are

(24:38):
the closest. If Trump wins one of those three and
everything else that he won before, then he will be
president again. And it's true among likely voters, among registered voters,
among whether Robert Kennedy is in the race, or not,
whether the other minor candidates are in the race or not,

(25:00):
no matter, no matter how they shook up this, Polly,
Trump keeps coming out on top. And the reason is
that people are upset about the economy and inflation and
about immigration. And it's the two things that matter most,

(25:20):
and it's the two things that Biden publicly denies that
there's any problem with. And it's a question I've asked
so many guests whenever these topics come up on the air. Why,
I mean, if you're running for office and you're falling
behind that you've tried behind a guy that you've tried
to demonize as capable of destroying the country. Think about

(25:43):
all the renter coming out of Biden in his campaign
about how horrible Trump would be. Well, that's your message.
And then you're down three, five, seven, nine points in
all these states that matter. Don't you look and see
why you're behind? And if all your research and they
do a ton of research, focus groups and polling and

(26:06):
all kinds of statistical analysis, and if it keeps coming back,
it's like, Wow, people are really really pissed off about
the economy and inflation. Because I heard Trump Trump drew
eighty thousand people at least at the Jersey Shore in Wildwood,
not far from where Ken and I.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Used to work. In fact, we used to host.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Party nights at bars along the Wildwood Beach, so I
know that place really well. Gigantic Beach, eighty thousand people.
And I heard a clip of Trump and he's gone.
He goes, hot dogs are up twenty two percent, and
steak chickens up to thirty two percent, and hamburgers are
up thirty seven percent. He goes, that's why I'm eating
a hot dog. It went up the least. And the

(26:47):
whole crowd is roaring with laughter, and I'm thinking this
sounds like twenty sixteen, because he's got his whole Las
Vegas comedian stick going, and he's got props, and he's
eating a hot dog, and he goes, look at the
price of the hot dog. This is all I can afford,
which is core, which is amazing. He pulls that off considering,
you know, he's a billionaire and he dresses like a
businessman every day. But he's doing jokes about being forced

(27:10):
eat hot dogs, and everybody's laughing, like how And this
is in New Jersey, not exactly. Iowa when it comes
to political leanings. So then you look at this New
York Times poll and seventy percent of voters say that
the country's political and economic systems need major changes or

(27:33):
even be torn down entirely.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Hum.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well, that's an unhappy country, isn't it. Only thirteen percent
of Joe Biden's supporters believe that Joe would bring major
changes in his second term. Even many of those who
dislike Trump grudgingly acknowledge that he would shake up the

(28:00):
status quo, which they're not happy with. And they're finding
an increasing number of people who voted for Biden are
turning to Trump. At least that's what they're telling the
pollsters and the interviewers. He's doing better among young voters.
Trump is doing better among young voters. For all you
see are the progressives right chanting and screaming in the streets. Well,

(28:24):
some polls say there's more young voters going for Trump,
Black and Hispanic voters too. Trump and Biden are tied
among eighteen to twenty nine year olds, tied among Hispanic
voters in both categories. Eighteen to twenty nine. In Hispanic
Biden won more than sixty percent of their vote. Now

(28:47):
he's splitting it. Trump also gets twenty percent of black voters.
That would be the highest level of Black support for
any Republican candidate since they passed the Civil Rights Act
in nineteen sixty four. Now this one, Poul. This has
been going on for months, over and over and over again,
and Trump supporters say the economy, the cost of living,

(29:07):
was the most important issue in the election.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's the price of a hot dog, it really is.
It's the price of eggs, it's the price of hamburgers,
it's the going out to eat. And then Biden tells
you that, no, it's not happening. In fact, he said
that the other day on national television on CNN. He said, well,
people have the money. He said, people have the money. Well,

(29:32):
no they don't. Three quarters of the country lives paycheck
to paycheck. I I just I'm astonished that this is
how they're going to campaign. They're going to tell you
that the price of eggs and hot dogs are not
going up, that the border is secure and you can
afford it anyway. Conway, Up next, Krozier Live in the

(29:56):
CAFI twenty four hour newsroom.

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