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Welcome to a super special holiday edition of The Office
Deep Dive. I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, and boy,
oh boy, have I got a treat for you today.

(02:14):
We're doing something very different, something very different, something that
I am delighted to share with you. Okay, here's a
hand ring ring dunder Mifflin. This is Brian. That's right.
Today we're doing a call in episode of the show.
Who are the guests? You are the guests, and you

(02:36):
decide what we talk about today. Get ready to laugh
with me, to cry with me and get mad with me. Well,
maybe not get mad with me. But first I want
to thank each and every one of you who sent
in so many amazing messages. True really, all of us

(03:01):
here at the Office Deep Dive. We are at a
total loss for words at how incredible and how open
and how loving you have all been about the office
and the podcast. I wish that I could answer each
and every one of you today, but know that we

(03:22):
listen to every single one of your messages and they
brought us so much joy. So now it's my turn.
I'm hoping this episode will bring a little joy to
you this holiday season. So without further adyear, I would

(03:42):
like to present to you my first call In episode
featuring probably my favorite guests of all time, you Bubble
Uh love It Bubble and squeak On Bubble and Squeaker

(04:05):
cook at every month left over from the nut before.
Mr Bomber Bob Tyl are calling from the middle of nowhere, Saskatchewan,

(04:25):
Canada have a question for you. I was just wondering
your iconic character, Kevin. As we all know and love
you know I wouldn't want to change a thing, but
if there's one thing you could change, about Kevin Malone.
What would it be inquiring Mines wants to know. Well,
thanks Bob for your question. You know, I think the

(04:46):
one thing I've addressed this a little bit throughout the podcast.
I wish that Kevin had found love. You know. I
talked to Ellie Kemper a little bit. I had pitched
Aaron and Kevin getting together before the start of the
final season. That obviously did not happen, But I wish
Kevin had had found love. I wish there had been

(05:07):
a little more uh victory for him in terms of
his relationship. I love the storyline with Lynn when we
had that. Obviously Stacy his fiance early on, she wasn't
explored all that much. But yeah, I wish Kevin had
had one of those small victories in finding love. Hi, Brian,

(05:29):
my name is Logan Corkins. I'm from Kansas City, Missouri.
I'm a huge, huge fan of the Office. I loved
all your interviews throughout the show. But um, I have
a story and I have a question for you. Um.
I want to start with my story. So, when I
was in college, I worked for a baseball team called
the Omaha storn Chasers through the Triple a affiliate of
Kansas City Royals, and I was working on an off day.

(05:51):
I worked in the clubhouse. I was a clubhouse assistant
and I was a bad boy. Um. But I was
at the ballpark on one of our off days and
Warren Buffett happened to be at our um at our
ball field and he was talking to our general manager.
My general manager asked me if I told me I
could ask a question to Warrant. And you know, Warren's
this incredibly successful person, and all I can think about

(06:12):
is that he had just aired or he had just
been on an episode of the Office, like a couple
of weeks before. So I go in, I sit down,
and Warren's like, what's your question, young man? I go, yeah,
what was the light to work with John Franciski and
the cast of the Office. And he sits there for
a second. He just laughed. He's like, Okay, well, not
the question I expected. It tells me how great it was.

(06:33):
Told me it was a phenomenal experience. My general manager
is absolutely dying laughing. He's like, you could ask him anything,
but of course you had to come around and talk
about the Office. That was pretty cool. Um. The question
I had for you O'Brien is back in the day
when you guys were filming. In the episode Office Olympics,

(06:53):
we see all the different games that the characters played,
but did you ask her and angew actually have games
that you would play in accounting when you were like
background characters first scene? I'd love to know more. Thank
you well, Logan. First off, thank you for your story
about war and Buffett. I tell you the day that

(07:14):
he and Charlie Munger came on set. That was amazing.
I don't know how we pulled that off or who
pulled that off, but the fact that he left and
you asked him that question is awesome. Now about games,
you know, we get asked a lot about pranks, right
because pranks were such a huge part of the show.

(07:37):
Your's is a similar question in terms of games and
relating to Office Olympics. You know, the boring answer is
we didn't really. I mean, we played comedy games. I
guess like our games would be about trying to make
each other laugh. That would be it would be about
us in the deep background, attempting to make each other laugh.

(08:00):
And as we've discussed many times, we felt like there
was a show within a show happening called the Accountants
that we were the stars of. So we were always
trying to make each other laugh and pass notes, and
in fact I have notes from Angela. Before the computers worked,

(08:21):
we we would pass notes back and forth to each
other again in an attempt to make each other laugh,
but also in character. So famously, I have an illustration.
Oscar has an illustration. I think Jenna Fisher has an
illustration from Angela on a post it note, which was
an invitation to sprinkles her cat's birthday party. Hello Brian,

(08:45):
my name is Brianna, and I live in Dallas, Texas.
And I know that you know this area very well
as you went to SMU, so I feel like we
have a connection already known the same neck of the woods.
So I'm gonna get personal really quick. I have a
funny office story I wanted to share. Sorry if it's
a little bit t m I, but I think you'll

(09:07):
you'll get how funny this is. So about four years
ago I had my oldest daughter, and after I had her,
everything was going well and it came time to meet
with the lactation consultant. Right so, so me being a
very first time mom, never having done breastfeeding before. I
am in front of all these nurses and nurses come

(09:28):
in and lactician consultant and the lactation consultant says, do
you know how to stimulate your nipple? And I said,
absolutely I do, and I start aggressively flicking my nipple
with my finger, to which they were both appalled and
thought was hilarious. They stopped me and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, honey,

(09:50):
what are you doing? I said, stimulating the nipple and
they said, who told you to do that? I said, um,
I learned it from the office with Pam and her
le nation consultant. They thought that was the funniest thing.
A couple of nurses go out, grab some more nurses
bring them in. They say, Brianna, Brianna, tell us what

(10:11):
you just did and how you learned it. I said, um,
I was flicking my nipple because I learned it from
the office. They just thought that was the most hysterical
thing they could ever see, and to which they taught me, no, honey,
be sure to roll stop with the flicking. So I
just think that is it just really speaks to me

(10:32):
because the office is such a special show to me
and my entire family. I just give so much credit
to every single person on that show, from the casting
all the way down to the acting, to the heart
that was put into the editing, every single detail. I
wish I could have been there. I truly wish I
could have been a fly on the wall to see

(10:52):
what I think is the greatest show to ever hit
television and my favorite show that I have ever seen
in my life. So anyway, it was a pleasure sending
in this video memo. I don't know if you'll ever
hear it or not, but thank you Ryan for your
last couple of years of these incredibly special podcasts. I've
listened to every single one, and thank you for your time,

(11:14):
and thank you for sharing your love of the show
with all of us. All Right, thanks Brian, byebye. All right, Brianna, Well,
first off, yes, I did hear your story. Uh, there's
so much to unpack here. First off, Hail to the
Red and the Blue, the Mustangs of s m U. Yes,
I went to s m U there in Dallas, and

(11:35):
maybe we'll run into each other sometime when I am back.
Now it feels as though you're trying to get me
in trouble you you you said flicking my nipple several times.
I don't know where to go exactly with that, but
thank you for your story. You know, it reminds me
of another story that I read about actually, where somebody

(11:59):
learned something from the office. It wasn't about lactation, let
me be clear. But there was a guy by the
name of Cross Scott, twenty one years of age, back
in nineteen He was an auto technician in Arizona, and
he was driving down the road and he saw a

(12:21):
car that was pulled over and a woman who appeared
to need some help. He pulled over to help her,
and she was unconscious and he had to break her
window and got in and was trying to help her.
He didn't have a cell phone, and he realized he

(12:42):
needed to do CPR, but he didn't know CPR, and
he thought to himself, well, the only point of reference
that I have for CPR is the office the stress
relief episode, and he remembered, uh uh uh, stay in alive,
stay in alive, which apparently, according to the American Heart Association,

(13:06):
is actually the correct beat for CPR. I looked that up.
That is true, so at least that was accurate. So
Cross did this version of CPR on the woman. An
ambulance arrived ten or fifteen minutes later, and the woman survived,
and they told Cross that had he not performed this

(13:30):
CPR on her, that things would not have turned out. Okay.
She she recovered and is fine as far as I
know today. So you learned about nipple flicking. Uh, maybe
that wasn't the right way to go, but Cross Scott
used the Office to save a woman's life. Unbelievable. Hey, Brian,

(13:53):
I just want to let you know then your podcast.
It's my absolute favorite podcast and makes Tuesday commutes tolerable
I guess, going through traffic all the way to working back. Uh.
So here here's my question. My question would be if
you can pick any character in the Office to do
a spinoff show about. Who would it be and what
would it be about. I'm looking forward to answer. Thank

(14:15):
you very much. Thanks Alex for your question. You know,
we haven't talked much about this throughout the podcast, mostly
because it didn't happen. But Rain Wilson and Paul Lieberstein,
who played Toby but was also showrunner of the Office,
as you know, for a while, they actually developed a

(14:35):
spinoff in season eight, and it was called The Farm
and it was about Dwight and his Beat Farm. Now,
remnants of that episode played as an episode of The
Office called The Farm, and that was going to be
the title of the spinoff. Unfortunately, NBC decided not to

(14:56):
pick up that show, and so we never got to
see more exploits from Dwight and his family on the
Beat Farm. So one, I think that's a spectacular idea
and one that I certainly feel would be worth exploring
in the future. And the other is what I mentioned before,

(15:18):
The accountants, Oscar, Angela and Kevin. I think those three
disparate characters working together. I've called it the perfect comedy triangle.
Um the way the characters are drawn and how they
interact with each other, I think they could work in
almost any setting, So whether it was at dunder Mifflin

(15:40):
or somewhere else, I guess my answer number two would
be The Accountants. Hi, Brian, my name is Brian Roser
and I live in Buffalo, New York. And this is
the story of how The Office helped me graduate from
high school. So in the year I was a senior
in high school and all the students had to complete
what was called a senior project. UM. It was a

(16:03):
semester long class the way that it was set up,
but you basically spend nine weeks researching a topic of
your choice and presenting an argument at the end of
the year. And so um our teachers were encouraging us
to pick something new, something they hadn't heard before. I thought,
what do I really like right now? At the time,
I was obsessed with The Office. I was finally discovering it,

(16:25):
and I was just so amazed by how it was
shot differently, how it was unlike anything I had ever
seen before. I thought it was so funny. Um So
I decided that my topic would be why The Office
is the greatest show of all time. My teachers loved it,
and they fought over who got to be my advisor
at the end of the year because they all really
wanted to see my project. And I spent the next

(16:49):
semester researching and finding out more about what set the
Office apart, why it was so popular. And this was
before even the boom that it's in right now. Um So,
I was doing my own deep dives for a grade
for my diploma. UM and at the end of the
year I presented it and I had to have a
visual aid, and I decided naturally to put a stapler

(17:11):
in Jello. It's a lot easier than you might think.
I learned the secret is dental floss, and I encourage
people to try it if they want to. So that
is the story of how The Office helped me graduate
from high school. Well listen, first off, Brian, stay in
your lane. Okay, I do the deep diving on the Office,

(17:34):
and now to learn that you did it many years ago,
I don't even I feel like I don't have a
place right now. I don't know. This is very this
is very humbling. Listen, why the Office is the greatest
show ever of all time? I think is a very
worthy senior project. I hope you convinced everyone of all

(17:58):
of your classmates and teachers of it being so I'm
glad you graduated. Thank you for that. And I I
didn't know about dental flows. I had no idea that
that is how you suspended it. In fact, I have
often wondered how you could suspend a stapler into Jello.

(18:19):
I didn't realize dental flaws, And even when you said
dental flaws, I was like, how does that work? But
now I get it. You suspend it while the jello
molds cools. I don't know. That's incredible. Uh, congratulations on
your project. But just stay in your lane, all right, brand,

(18:41):
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(22:13):
You and I have a history that goes back a
little bit that I remember, and I guarantee you do not. However,
I was one of the blogger breakfasts at the original
convention there in uh Scranton. I had a website called
the two Cents dot Com. At the time, I was
just like this twentysomething year old guy that lived in
this little cottage on a farm where I worked a

(22:33):
farm job. But I started covering the office and via
my Space, uh it was Jenna and Angela and Laura Harden.
I was able to get interviews via my Space with
you guys and have them be exclusive to my site.
I started interviewing all the smaller characters, like thatte Nicole
Brown might be one of my favorite ones ever when
she paid Paris in Staples, the Staples episode with Dwight.

(22:55):
You know, the office was something that connected to fans
in such a way. But this like changed my life.
By doing this, I started getting like press passes and
I was able to be a v I p at
the convention with you guys. So I was able to
be at casino night, which was the small part, and
I played poker next to Ed Helms, watched Craig Robinson
saying creep. I remember with the band and the scrand

(23:16):
Tones were there, you know, and then the big concert
where you guys all kind of went nuts and you
guys were just having fun, and it led us all
to believe that what we had hoped was true, was
that you were people who were enjoying yourselves just as
much as we were enjoy watching you. You were real people,
You were normal, so so to speak, people who were
able to communicate with us and just be excited about

(23:38):
the show. Um. It led to so much for me
from that little website. I became a member of the
Broadcast Television Journalists Association for several years, um, you know,
and covering all different shows. The two cents got huge.
I had like thirtysothing writers for me for a while.
But it all started because you guys were willing to
communicate with your fans, and I was able to find
that and write it up and do some podcasts. I

(23:58):
did a long podcast Asked Once with Bobby Ray Schaeffer,
and I remember, I mean it was insane. I was
in l A for about four days for one of
my best friend's weddings, and I get a phone call
and it was Bobby Ray saying I heard your in
l A. And I was hoping that we could have
lunch like I did, lunch with the office like it
was just crazy. We went out to sati Quoix and
saw the building where you guys were. It was insane.

(24:20):
The office totally changed my life. I'm now a data
four out here in farm country in Connecticut, but the office,
for that part of my life was such a special thing.
And now to be able to listen to this podcast
and relive all that and think of all these memories
and all those moments and the way that you've done
it so beautifully through this podcast and talking to all
these people, it's been really, really special. So thank you

(24:41):
for what you've done. I believe your birthday was yesterday,
So happy birthday to you, sir um And from a
person who got to stand next to you at the
Bloggers Breakfast and thought that was probably one of the
biggest deals ever in my life. Thank you so much, Keith.
Thank you so much for reaching out. I remember very
well that Bloggers Breakfast. In fact, I was just back

(25:05):
in Scranton a few weeks ago and drove by the
Hilton where that Bloggers Breakfast took place and pointed out
the window. It was like, that's where we had the
bloggers breakfast one morning at the convention. I think the
only time I've ever been in that building. Listen, it's

(25:28):
it's truly moving to me to hear your story, and
I'm so glad that your experience with everybody was so positive.
I remember that convention and subsequent to that the rap
party as being um one of the best experiences of
the show. We felt a special bond with the people

(25:53):
who had such a love for the show, and that
traveled to Scranton, Pennsylvania. It sounds like from even for
you not that close by to come and spend some
time with us. We had so much fun. You know,
I referenced it again because it sticks with me. Andy
Bernard at Helm's line, I wish I knew we were

(26:15):
in the good old days while they were happening that convention.
There certainly in retrospect now, those those were the good
old days. So thank you for reconnecting. I'm so glad
that the office and the connection you made with so
many of us helped you at that time in your life.

(26:37):
It truly was our our pleasure. And yeah, you bring
up my space. That was our first attempt when the
show was struggling mightily to find a couple of audience members.
That was our attempt to try to connect to people
in a new and different way. Uh. And I'm glad
to know that it. Um, it worked for you, so

(26:58):
God bless my on. Congratulations on your four kids and
your new life now in Connecticut. But thank you for
reminding me of of those good old days. Hi Brian, Hi, everybody.
Name is Karen. I'm from Bloomington, Illinois. I just wanted
to share with you really quick how The Office has
really influenced my life and my family. Um. We quote

(27:20):
it all the time. My boyfriend and I started our
relationship watching The Office together and we'll be celebrating our
four year anniversary. We quote the Office all the time.
It comes up in conversation. UM. And I was wondering
if you'd, guys, have any of your favorite quotes come
up all the time, or if you have any little
bit to the Office that show up from time to

(27:41):
time in your daily life. Have a happy holidays. Hi, Kara,
thanks so much for your question. Uh, Listen, I don't
know at this point if there's a day that goes
by that I don't say. That's what she said. I
mean and and when I'm when I'm in a public setting,

(28:02):
it feels weird, just like self reference the show in
that way. But yes, it has become I don't I
don't even know if daily is right hourly thrice daily
reference for me as well. And you know, look, I
spend a lot of time talking about Chili. I don't

(28:23):
know that there's a specific quote on that, but yes,
and there is a a giant text chain is that
what you call it? Text chain? Text group text between
me and some of my other cohorts on the show.
And yeah, I would say that's what she said. Is

(28:44):
I mean, I don't know that anyone can say anything
it without referencing that's what she said. So thank you, Kara.
I'm glad things are going well for you. Congratulations on
on almost four years together, and thank you for your
comments about the Office and how it has impacted your life. Hi,
Bryan and Office step Dive crew. Having looked back on

(29:06):
all the episodes listened to and the few I have
waiting for me, I am reminded of all the moments
where you discuss how we as fans feel so connected
the casting characters because you have become such crucial, crucial
pieces to the good, the bad, and the ugly moments
of our lives. And if we are to believe that
The Office is an experience of connecting and growing close

(29:26):
with the fictional characters over thousands of minutes of watching
I do believe, which I do believe, then I believe
The Office steep Dive podcast is the experience of getting
to know the humans behind the characters and the production,
only to remember that the smartest, most brilliant show has
already been made and there will almost definitely never be
anything better. I come away from each podcast episode with

(29:50):
a greater gratitude for each and every human that work
to start the show and keep it running for nine years,
all those who fought to make it the best it
could be. Not only us the gratitude for a show
that brings my family and I together, but for the wonderful, creative,
smart humans who made it worth watching more than seven
times through except for Scott's taughts, because well, I don't

(30:12):
think I need to say why. So from the bottom
of my heart, thank you to each and every one
of you for not only creating the world's best show,
but for being such kind and genuine people who made
something so magical just by being yourselves, Nico, thank you.
Look that for me was the point in this podcast

(30:33):
in bringing everybody back together, is for all of you
to be able to hear what good people that I
had the opportunity to work with for a decade, and
to hear our real and true interactions together as we
relived that decade of our life. Look, I'm not a reporter.

(30:58):
That much is very very very clear, but I what
I wanted you all to be able to experience was
our conversation, not about the show in an objective way,
in a third person presentational way, but I wanted you
to have the experience of of reliving the show through
us having been there and the fact that you appreciate

(31:22):
so many of these people Nico. Um, well you're you're
dead on. You're dead on, and so thank you for
your comments, thank you for for watching it now over
seven times. I want you to know that you're appreciated
and uh and you are beautiful as well. Hey Brian,

(31:43):
my name is Tyler Bee. I'm from Eau Claire, Wisconsin,
and I am just going to leave a comment really
quick on how The Office changed my life. First off,
the show started, Uh, roughly in two thousand five, and
at that time I was nine years old and I remember,
you know, every Thursday night as a kid growing up

(32:04):
with my dad watching The Office on NBC, and it
was just something that we always bonded together over. Uh.
The special thing about The Office was for me. Uh.
I came out when I was twenty one years old
as a gay man, and The Office provided was one

(32:27):
of the first shows on network television, if not the
first one, I can't remember exactly, but that had some
sort of character that resembled or represented a gay man
in uh network television show and that was an Oscar obviously,
and you know the comedy involved. And uh as a

(32:48):
kid knowing at a young age about my life and
you know, who I was, but keeping it closeted to myself,
it was a very, uh, very special thing to see.
And even though that was in my younger years, you know,
just keeping that in the back of my mind that
you know, maybe one day that things could be better,
and then you know, kind of living I fear that

(33:10):
if somebody figured out who I was, um, how that
was going to affect and change my life, and the
offer the Office was really that comfort for me, you
know every time I watched an episode, especially the Gay
witch Hunt, which I laughed just about every single time.
But I think growing up, I always had that fear of,
you know, that's how my coming out experience was going

(33:30):
to be like. So I just I always tried to
I remember the day when I first told somebody about
who I was. I always feared that my my experience
was going to run similar to what Oscar had to
go through in the Gay witch So, uh, you know,
things like that. That's that's how it changed my life,

(33:51):
and it gave me a lot of hope. Thank you
very much. Have a good one, Tayler. Thank you for
calling in. I'm glad it didn't oh that way for you. Look,
there's so much to unpack in this beautiful story that
you've told. First off, just I hear all the time,

(34:11):
and this is an example of you know, you were nine,
one could argue a little young, but um of kids
watching with their parents, sisters and brothers and family enjoying
the show together multi generationally. So that's cool to me.

(34:31):
Number one. And look, I don't know if The Office
was the first show to show a gay character on
network television, but I'm so tremendously proud of one the show,
and to Oscar Nunyez and and his performance. You know,
he's talked about this a lot. He didn't realize that

(34:55):
Oscar Martinez was gay when the show started. I don't
know if Greg Daniels had that in his mind, but
Oscar Nuniez did not know that Oscar Martinez was gay.
And so when Gay witch Hunt was written and it
became clear that Oscar Martinez was gay, I guess there

(35:18):
were some people that that asked Oscar, well, how are
you going to play the character now that you know this?
And his response was always, well, the same, this is
Oscar is Oscar, and the fact that now other people
know that he's gay doesn't affect Oscar's behavior at all.

(35:44):
He is who he is and who he always has been.
And I'm tremendously proud of that because I think that
it would be typical for an actor or for a
show to start making broad, stereotypical adjust months to character
based on that and the fact that that story helped

(36:06):
you or gave you hope for your future. I mean,
it's a cliche, but that's that's what I'm talking about.
That's why I'm I'm proud of the show and what
we at times tried to look at in the world,
truth and beauty, truth and beauty, truth and beauty, as

(36:27):
Greg Daniels would say, and whether it be race, gender, sexuality,
issues of health care. We tried to look at real
topics in a real way, not in a stereotypical or
generalized way. So Tyler, thank you for calling in. Thank

(36:49):
you for telling that story, and and and if it
is true and if it helped you in any way
deal with your coming out, well, God bless you, and
thank you having the courage to to tell not just me,
but all of our listeners be my friend. M Hi,

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I am just blown away by how many of you

(40:04):
called in to be a part of this show, but
more than that how many of you called in from abroad?
I mean the amount a number of countries that we
heard from. I can't I I'm touched, to say the least. Um,
So I'd like to share some of those submissions with

(40:25):
you right now. Let's let's go overseas for a bit.
Shall we across the pond brim from Oslo, Norway? Here. Hi,
I'm Nia Martin. I'm from Ireland. My name is Laura Power.
I am from Melbourne, Australia. Hi, Brian, this is Tom
Elliott over in UK. At first, like everyone, of course,

(40:46):
I fell in love with the characters. I love team
at Love Pain, I love to act, I love you.
I wish I could work at Dundeme fun and everyone
says that, but um, yeah, it is true. We all
want to work at this magnificent office. I never get
sick of watching The Office. I've watched it probably over

(41:07):
twenty times back to front now, and I never get
sick of talking about it. So I guess that leads
me into my question for you, which is, do you
think there will ever come a day where you just
don't want to talk about the office anymore? My friends
and family will be the first to tell you that
that won't come for me. That day won't come for me,
But I'm curious to see if you think it will
come for you. Well. First of all, thank you to Ula,

(41:31):
to Nile, Tom Ramiro, thank you Kanako, thank you for
calling in. And now to answer your question, Laura, do
I do I think there will ever come a day
where I don't want to talk about the office anymore Tomorrow?
How's that for an answer? Tomorrow I won't want to

(41:52):
talk about it anymore. Now. I don't know if tomorrow
will ever come, but tomorrow I won't want to look.
I have, as you know, I have deep doven into
the show now for two years. We have the podcast,
we have the book. I've talked to everybody associated with

(42:16):
the show. I don't know that I ever answered the
question that I set out to answer, which is why
is the show now bigger than it ever was when
it was on NBC? Why is it now the most
watch show in television? The exploration has been pretty damn
fun though, So yeah, I'm gonna stop talking about it tomorrow.

(42:43):
I Brian and Team. My name is Leam. I'm coming
to you all to me from sunny Scotland. So I
apologize if you can't understand my dose accent. I just
wanted to say that I love the podcast. That's amazing,
a lesson all these global superstars, in my eyes, sort

(43:03):
of talk about how brilliant their time was making the show,
hearing all these mad, funny stories and hearing how class are,
hearing how close US Will were. I'm a massive fan
of the US Office. Um. I remember when it was
first announced it was going to be remade, and I
was one of these skeptics that you get in Scotland

(43:27):
and the UK as a whole, that they're remaking Son
for America. This isn't gonna work. But I think that
it's got its own identity, it's got its own fuel
top um, the characters are completely different, and yeah, absolutely
love it. But my question is where you expecting But

(43:50):
obviously didn't seem like you were expecting it to be
a big hit in America. But after it was a
hit in America, were you also expecting it to be
such a massive across the world and in particular place.
He's like Scotland and the rest of the UK. Thank
you very much, speaks Liam Liam from Scotland. Over across

(44:16):
the Poul that is the worst Scottish accent in the world.
I apologize to that, Liam, I mean no disrespect. Listen
who No, we were not expecting it to be uh.
We were not expecting it, as you said, to be
a hit here. Of course, we were not expecting it

(44:37):
to be a hit abroad. And I think you know
what's interesting because like you, yes, we were hearing that
in the United States. By the way, like now, we
do live in in a global world. So when all
of the articles and people talking over in the u K.
About how this was a disastrous choice for America to

(45:01):
be re redoing this show, just know this. We were.
We were hearing all of those things, okay, and they
were not uh, they were not fun. And in part
it was because I thought that the original office, the
British Office, the English office, was genius, and that Ricky
Gervais was a genius. And I loved the show. But

(45:24):
as my great friend and partner Ben Silverman would say,
if you were going to remake something, would you want
to remake a piece of ship or would you want
to remake a great piece of art? I think he
has a point there, and I think that the key
for us was finding what was uniquely American about the

(45:49):
show and what was also uniquely universal about the setup
and the characters. So no, I was not. And I
will tell you that I took a trip actually with
Ben Silverman, not to Scotland, but based on my knowledge
of geography, fairly close down in Ireland. We were down

(46:13):
in Cork, and I remember going into a little pub
with Ben in Cork and having a number of people
who were sitting at the bar turn and look at
me and acknowledge that they knew who I was from
our little show from across Upon and how surprised and

(46:38):
and delighted both Ben and I were with that reception.
So cheers mate, and uh I hope to see you
there in Scotland soon, maybe on a golf course. Hey Brian,
this is Eve from some follow Brazil. My question for
you guys is if you could go back in time
and shoot one all over again, which one would you pick?

(47:02):
Maybe because you had so much fun shooting it, or
because you would do something different about the episode, or
just because you want to go back to that specific
point in time. So tell me which one. Eve. That
is a spectacular question. I have thought about this answer
more than any other question I was asked, because yes, one,

(47:27):
there are so many different ways that I can go
with this. I think that where my answer settles in
this moment would be Jim and Pam's wedding Niagara. First off,
it was a mess. Let me just say that the
shooting of that episode was very, very difficult because, as

(47:52):
we've discussed throughout the podcast, the writing was changing up
until basically we shot it. We were going very very late,
long hours on that shoot. But I don't know the
joy of that episode and shooting shooting that Chris Brown

(48:15):
walking into the chapel scene, that's where I go. I
don't know. And and maybe it's now seeing clips on
YouTube or montages that fans have put together that typically
include that scene, the look on all of our faces,

(48:37):
the culmination of that story, and the joy we had
in shooting it as difficult as it was. If we
shoot it again, i'd like it to be easier and
not quite so many hours or late at night. But yeah,
that for me is it. And you know, I've told
this story as well to those of you who haven't

(48:58):
heard it, in that we actually shot at the Maid
of the Mist at Niagara Falls and my parents happened
to be there in New York vacationing with some friends
and went and saw John and Jenna and some of
the other crew members, and they appear in that episode.

(49:23):
They are the couple that are walking right behind Jim
and Pam as they get their brain gear to walk
onto the boat. So maybe I want to go back
and shoot that episode again because I wish i'd gone there.
I think next time I would go there and be

(49:44):
there with my folks while we shot that scene. So
that's my answer today. Hi Brian, my name is Kristen.
I'm from Prince George, British Columbia, and I just wanted
to send in this story. Two years ago, I gave
birth to my son. His The labor and delivery with
his birth was quite traumatic, and I struggled with postpartum

(50:07):
depression afterwards, and I was thinking about ways that I
could boost my spirits, and I remembered a family member
had told me when they were struggling with depression, A
counselor many decades ago had told them to um listen
to funny things, watch funny things, just to boost their spirits.

(50:30):
I was like, Oh, I might as well try it.
So I um was on my Netflix and looking through
and my husband suggested that I watched The Office. He
knows that I loved Dinner Party, but um, he doesn't
have the same love for Dinner Party as I do.

(50:52):
So he said, oh, I don't care what you watch.
If it's going to make you laugh, then you should
watch it. So I turned on and I probably watched
Dinner Party every day for five months. Even in my
lowest days, it could still bring a smile to my face.

(51:12):
And I'm just really grateful for those tiny moments of
just happiness that The Office had brought me in those
really dark days. And I'm fully recovered from the depression now,
but I still um watched The Office diligently, and I'm

(51:35):
just very thankful for it. So thank you for going
through and interviewing everyone. It's just been wonderful to listen
to and hear new stories. So just thank you for
the the joy you've brought to my life. Kristen. Thank
you for sharing your story with me and with all

(52:00):
of us. I've said now many times that the greatest
gift that the Office has given me is well stories
like that. You know, we we truly felt like we
were just a bunch of idiots, and we were, let's

(52:22):
be clear, a bunch of idiots trying to make people laugh.
And when I hear stories like that that this show,
this band of idiots have brought comfort during a difficult time,
well it it truly well, it clearly takes my my

(52:44):
words away and my breath away. I thank you for
sharing your story. I am so glad that we marry
A bunch of idiots were able to give you some
comfort in a difficult and dark time. And I I
give credit mostly to Greg Daniels about this, because look,

(53:06):
this was a comedy meant to make people laugh. They
say laughter is the best medicine, right. But I think
that the depth of the show, which relates to the
central message of the show that Greg explains very clearly

(53:26):
with the last line of the show that there's beauty
and ordinary things, isn't that kind of the point and
that hope, that idea, I think is um it is comforting, right,
it is for me. So thank you for your courage

(53:48):
to to want to tell me that story. Thank you
for that because I consider that a gift to me.
We all consider that a gift to all of us.
So thank you and yes, I'm glad. I'm glad that
you're better now and still watching Hello Office, deep dive,

(54:11):
I know I'm not alone in the world, and saying
that The Office has truly helped me through life. I'm
twenty three years old and I grew up in foster
care in Halifax, Nova Scotia. I've never truly felt like
there's a lot of representation of youth and care and TV.
Some of the trauma and hardships that take place while
growing up in the foster care system manifest resilient and

(54:33):
unique individuals that sometimes have a difficulty fitting in and
I feel like they can't relate to their peers. It
means the world to have a character out there that
has some shread of resemblance to compare to the writing
of Aaron's character, and Ellie's performance felt accurate to my
experience and truly made me feel seen. Thank you for

(54:54):
all that you do on your podcast and for carrying
the essence of beauty in the small things throughout your
podcast from the show, and for being part of a
show that brought so many people comfort. Seana, thank you
for calling in. You know there's a phrase that you
used that I wrote down resilient and unique individuals who

(55:20):
sometimes have difficulty fitting in. And you talk about that
in terms of children who have gone through the foster
care system. But isn't that all of us? In a way,
the world has a way of making resilient and unique
individuals who sometimes have difficulty fitting in. I don't think

(55:41):
that I could have described many of the characters on
the Office any better than that. And maybe that after
two years of searching for the answer of why the
show resonates with people, now, maybe that maybe that's the answer.

(56:02):
People feel seen because these characters in the Office are seen.
I don't know, but thank you, Shanna, thank you for
calling in. Wow incredible, Thank you all so much. It

(56:30):
got a little emotional there for a bit, but I
want to thank you all well for sharing your lives
with me, with us really, and the fact that this
show has reached so many people from so many places
around the world, it's just incredible. Look, I'm a I'm

(56:51):
a kid from Georgia, That's who I am, and so
to start there and to now just be casually talking
to people from scot London, Brazil and the UK, Argentina,
it is a dream come true. For me, the world
truly is a small place. Thank you so much for

(57:16):
making my holidays so special. I hope that this show
has done the same for you. Look, I hope this
week that you get to spend some time with your
loved ones, or if not, at least spend some time
with your office family. Happy Holidays to one and all

(57:40):
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produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley.
Our producers are Liz Hayes and d Ago Topi On.

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Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by seth Olandsky.

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