February 17, 2022 • 47 mins
This week the guys sit down with 199, the legendary Travis Pastrana. The conversation stay pretty comical the entire show. Great stories from Travis' youth to his most recent "incident'. Sit back, relax, perhaps take an aspirin and enjoy The Skinny.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Skinny with Rico and Kenna is a production of
I Heart Radio. Hey Travis's trying to here. Welcome to
the Skinny from the fat Heads I Wear Studio in Speedway, Indiana.
This is the Skinny brought to you by Toyota and
General Tire. This segment of the Skinny is brought to
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you by Toyota. I couldn't be more excited for the
guests that we have here today. He's as big as
anybody that we've had on this show, and I promise
you we've had the who's who over the course of
the past couple of years. Rico Elmore will join me
here today. We have tracked dude back there are running
the controls, Michael Young and of course I'm ken Stout.
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There's only a handful of people that have been able
to transcend the motorsports industry into a household name. Mario
Andretti certainly is one of those that comes to mind
right off the bat. I think John Forrest is probably
in that arena and in this guest. I think a
good example would also be Kinevil was a household name.
So whenever I say that it's a it's an extremely
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difficult thing to do, and this guy's certainly has a
lack of fear at least compared to us mere immortals,
and his extreme ability uh to pull off the successful
stunts and uh things that he's done over the course
of his career have helped make him a household name.
He's done it truly in a lane of his own.
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He's blazed his own path and has really opened up
the door for many others, And the dichotomy of his
personality to go along with it makes absolutely no sense.
One of the most competitive guys you will ever meet,
a champion at the highest levels of the game, which
proves his uh, his desire to win and what it
takes to get there. He has all of that, But
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then to talk to him, he is the nicest, kindest,
most gentle guy you could ever meet. You wonder how
all that could be combined inside of one person. But
that is truly Travis Pastrana one nine nine, and I
would borderlines say that even the one nine nine has
become merely almost a household name. You could go by
one and not even say Travis Forastrana. But welcome to
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the show Man. They don't come any bigger than you.
We appreciate the time. Shoot, I'm gonna hire you as
my agent. That was a great introduction. Yeah, good stuff. Man. Um, Hey,
before we get started, and there's no matter how long
we talk here and will never be able to cover
all the cool stuff that we could could cover with you.
But first and foremost, let's talk about your health. Fresh
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off of a gnarly accident, man. Uh, tell us how
you're sitting up and you're smiling. Um, you're not in
the hospital, and no better guy to be interviewing you
than a guy fresh off the off the table himself
with a with a full knee replacement here. So I've
got a bag in narcotics in my pocket if you need.
So you know we're we're working on the same same program.
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How you feeling, man, I mean, I'll have anee replacement here. Uh.
They say probably within the next ten years, but I
don't know. You're you're positive reinforcement for me. Man. You're
looking good looking, like you're getting around. They had you
up walking day one already back on your on your podcast.
So definitely, uh, definitely things are looking promisely modern orthopedics,
I'll tell you, yeah, man, And you gotta be strong,
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and I got tune pounds. I gotta push you around here,
so you'll you'll be way better than me. There's a
couple eighty year old women that uh are out doing
even physical things. True that that would be true. So, UM,
talk to me about what happened there on that that
base jump. I know we kind of talked about it
a little bit before, and I'm sure people have have
googled it to to learn a little bit. But but
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tell us what happened? Man? What went wrong on that deal? Uh? No,
It's interesting. I've been battling my whole life with um,
you know, kind of the fun side, the why we
started in motorsports, why I got into the dirt bikes, um,
you know, kind of the shenanigans, if you will, the
base jumping, the skydiving them, all the things, the freestyle
motocross that that go along with racing, um you know.
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And I had an awesome opportunity through Ken Block to
to do the basically the gym Conna series, which is
arguably the you know, the biggest um, you know, car video, YouTube,
video movie whatever you wanna call it, stunt movie, um,
of all time. And and Ken was was generous enough
to to let me, uh kind of jump in on
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what he's created, And I thought, no better way to
start off an iconic driving video. They're doing a base
jump front flip out of a out of a hotel room.
Of course, made total sense in my head. And uh, well,
I'm not a great bass jumper, as it turns out,
And uh, I fumbled my landing a little bit, broke
my back, my hip, my pelvis, and got a screw
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through my sad room. Uh, a couple of blood transfusions,
still have a nice catheter in, and I'm gonna miss
the first round of the Rally Championship because of this.
So um, you know, deaf only still getting a lot
of flak on why do you do the things you
do when you could just do this or you could
be better at this if you didn't do that. But
at the end of the day, I think, kind of
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who I've become and why I've been able to do
the things I've been able to do is because and
we always pushed the envelope. We always have fun. At
the end of the day, if you're not having fun,
it's not worth it, you know. And it's definitely been
a wild ride. Yeah, the I know that. The wise
idea was this was gonna happen when we were all
in Vegas together for the truck race. So glad that
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didn't happen. Glad that then I just must up. I
told my wife. I was like, she's like, I don't
like base, Jimmy, I don't like based. I'm like, oh,
don't worry, this one's full proof. Can't possibly mess it up.
Like I could call her in the ambulance going to
the hospital because we did it at daybreak, just at
dawns because it's less wind usually. I was like, um,
so I kind of had a little bit of a mishap.
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Oh boy leading out into my belly and my back
feels broken. But I don't worry. I'll be fine. Oh my,
Uh how many of those calls? Has she gotten? Too many?
Probably I don't know even one too many, but god busted.
She's she puts up with me. And I tell you now,
my wife's two time world champion in in skateboarding. And
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you know, they say, oh, you must be you know,
raising your kids very you know, in the extreme world.
But I think Lindsay is definitely more extreme with with
the kids than I am. I'm like that. Uh, I'm
not quite a helicopter parent, but definitely more so than
than lindsay as far as uh knowing what can go
wrong and trying to make sure that it doesn't happen
to them. But they're they're definitely both. My girls are
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uh pretty uh brave, I guess considering the their peer group.
But you know, it's fun. They're in cheer, so totally
different world than I'm used to. Well, it's uh it
sounds like your dad. I mean I watched I watched
where your dad jumped out of the tree. I was
watching some old video. I just I remembered, you know,
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from from the past, us watching some stuff with your dad.
And of course you know the support your mom and
dad had given you through the along the way and
your mom working that speedback you you definitely probably didn't
mess with her, right, No, I definitely. I mean my
dad was was in the Marine Corps. So if you
slept till seven o'clock, uh, you know in the morning
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on a Sunday, uh that you were a lazy pile
of crap. So um, definitely good to have that work ethic.
I think I learned a lot from him. But definitely
I was much more afraid of my mom. She she
was harped a lot on the education side of things. Um,
she believed in me a lot more than my dad did.
He was like, look, his brother was quarterback for Devin
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Broncos and still ended up teaching health and football and
wrestling coach at an Roman community college and work construction
with my dad and his other brothers on there, you know,
during his summer vacation. So he's like, look, best athletes
ever come out of our county, maybe our state, and
he's still working construction and teaching health community He's like,
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you're never gonna make it. His impressed ride that train
to the wheels fall off. I loved how he was
teaching you how to uh drive the bobcat at about Oh,
I don't know, you were maybe four maybe three? Yeah, yeah,
just before my third birthday, knocked down a wall with it, so,
oh my god, you were two years old. Wow? Yeah,
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I mean that was I think about my granddaughter right right,
I'm like, there's no way I would put her on that.
That is a horrible idea. No, it was a horrible idea,
but it was fun. I put my daughter on on
a riding more. When we lived in Jersey, we had
a big backyard and I put her on I had
a just a John Deere riding more. And I don't
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know how old she was, she had to be, I
don't know, maybe five six years old, summer up in
that neighborhood and watching her cruise around, you this huge
backyard that she could play in, and somehow managed to
run right over the top of the grille, which of
course had the gas line connected to it underneath. Oh no,
so and she didn't crash, You didn't fall off, which
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is my big concern, you know. And you see it happening,
I'm thinking to myself, well, certainly she's gonna turn, you know,
but no, she never turns. It kind of reminded me
of that, to be honest with you. Brought back a
good memory. Kids are wild. I've I've learned a lot
from my girls, and uh, my daughter wouldn't. So we
we had him riding a little one seven e sec
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kind of carts and um, my daughter again, she's five,
but she's doing some jumps and cruising around and you know,
like on motorcycles and everything, and she just ran straight
into a tree and she was crying. She's like, I'm
never wearing a seatbelt again, and she had like a
little cruise across the chest. I was like, no, that's
seatbelt actually saved you from smacking your head against the tree.
It's like, really, yeah, you know, nothing common about sets,
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but trying to trying to get Yeah, that's uh, that's
some good stuff. So uh we we were talking about
it prior to the show starting, and man, Red Bull
Forever and Black Rifle Coffee now, which you know, everything
I've seen of those guys in a lessen The Red
Bull guys great guys, but Black Rifle got a great
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story behind it. Tell us about that, you know, It's
it's awesome. Honestly. Everything that I've been doing in the
last couple of years really similar to when because super
was not super sorry Suzuki. Um, when I was riding
Factory Suzuki and motocross and supercross back in two thousand
one two thousand two, there was a Soba Suzuki team,
so we didn't really have a choice and Red Bull
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was like, hey, look and they they brought me over
to Europe and uh, they helped me basically get into
car racing and they did a lot for me, even
when I was still not a Red Bull athlete. Um,
you know, and as companies grow and whatnot, the Red
Bull has done so much for my career. They've done
so much for action sports. Um. But really, over the
last probably maybe eight years, I've been really good friends
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with a couple of the owners from Black Rifle, And
you know, the company started off, you know, pretty small,
uh years ago where it wasn't you know, they didn't
really have the means to do what a Red Bull
could do. Um, you know, and all of a sudden,
exponentially it's growing, it's growing, and um, you know Black
Rifle they were helping so much. I mean we went
to uh, um you know, her came, Maria came along
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and ended up which was a great, horrible idea. Were
actually signed up with Kevin Wyndham and Ryan SIPs to
represent Team Puerto Rico because they didn't have the funding
to send a team because of the hurricane. UM. And
we went down and raised some money race the motocross.
The nations qualified for the final, which was shocking for
a bunch of old guys. UM. And then went down
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and used all the money that we made to to
go down and uh, you know, put some ruse on
some houses, but really just bring some fun to back
to you know, kind of the kids in the motto industry,
and Puerto Rico fixed up a couple of tracks that
weren't you know, running for almost two years by the
time we got down there. Um and Black Rifle came
in and they they spent you know, a hundred thousand
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dollars of their own money, like the owners of Black
Rifle did privately, and came down and they brought all
kinds of guys that were construction crews and you know,
personally came down themselves to work for for two weeks
down there with us and didn't want anything out of
it at all. They just were coming down because it
was a cool cause. And you know, we got Walter
Read right up the road, and they just have all
these plans for like, hey, look, anything we can do
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to help the community, anything we can do to especially
the veteran community, and then the US. Um, you know,
we want to be America's Brandon. A lot of the
stuff I couldn't do because I was with Red Bulls.
So honestly, it's it's not nothing against Red Bull. RedBull
has been absolutely amazing Black Rifles, Like, look, we don't
even have anything against Red bull We just we're actually
gonna sponsor you so we can just hang out and
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do more cool stuff and give back more to the
communities and and really just have more fun. So, um,
you know, definitely Red Bulls still doing some some projects
as a kind of a family or friend of Red
bull if you will. But um, you know, at the
end of the day, getting older, drinking more coffee, and
the guys that black people, I just it's really all
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some opportunity at this point in their brand, at this
point in my life to be able to do some
cool stuff, and especially now my older daughter actually getting
into kind of writing movies. They're not she can barely write,
but she just really likes uh you know, Ale directing
and kind of writing stories and short stories. Really but um,
you know, all the guys j T, especially in his
daughters at the same age, they all go to I
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Fly actually invested Black Rifle invested in I Fly, like
a lot of the stuff that's right up our alley.
It just all fits with the family. And as far
as the family tie, there's there's no better brand for
me right now than than the coffee company of Black Rifle.
What a great story. Man. I did not see it
going that way. I mean, my question was gonna be
that had to be an extremely tough decision. You walk
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back into the dining room with your wife and say, honey,
I just was offered this incredible program from Black Rifle Coffee,
but I would have to get rid of Red Bull.
That's what I'm thinking in my mind. But you're telling
me they're playing to playing ball together to some degree,
and man, that's beautiful. Not playing ball together. I mean definitely,
Red Bull sees it a little differently than Black Rifle.
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Black Rifles basically like, hey, let's just have a lot
of fun. Man, this is gonna be awesome, and yeah,
whatever we have to do to support the industry, support
the sports. They're they're fans of action sport, especially j
t Um, Jared Taylor, He's been a huge supporter of
everything action sports. And you know they they brought Pilot
X in. I had this grand scheme idea from Nate
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Wessel and he's like, oh, we should have a helicopter
with a mini gun and Pilot X blowing up some cars. Well,
Royan mac jumps over top with an American flag cape
and you slide underneath um and black ripples like yeah,
let's do it, and I mean exponentially money per reward.
It didn't make any sense. But they were like, this
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is gonna be the greatest picture at that time, and
they didn't. And you know, I'm not saying that our
relationship is gonna be um, uh, extremely smart relationship, but
it's gonna be a lot of fun. So you know, Lindsay,
coming from the skate background, you know, people just they
don't leave Red Bull Red Bulls one so much. They
have a very good brand. Um, the athletes they sponsor,
they generally tend to keep lifelong and um, you know
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definitely you know, no hard feelings there. They've been awesome
to me and helped build my career. But um, like
I said, this is just an awesome opportunity to have
some great fun with friends and my parents. Since day one,
my dad always said, you're never gonna make it, you know,
like I said earlier, but if you can have fun
to do what you love, keep doing it. And I
think this is a this is a perfect perfect place
for me. We just scratch the service. One of the
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Once again, we are back here with one of the
most exciting guests, in my personal opinion, that we've had
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on the show. And Travis Pastrano has taken a few
minutes as he is recovering from a nasty crash that
he had just a couple of weeks ago. But looking
forward to another season, another successful season, I should say
behind the wheel of that incredible Subaru rally car. We'll
talk to him about that, uh in the future here
probably next segment or so, but I want to go
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back to something that you had said as you were
talking about Black Rifle coming on board here and some
of the ideas that were initially thrown out, and um,
it almost reminds me of, uh, what's the show from
Family Guy? What was that show we watched three and
a half days or seven and a a half days or
oh yeah, yeah, six days to show? Six days to
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show Family Guy? South Park, South Park where they all
get together, you know, and they come up with with ideas.
So I've often wondered, how does that process work with
you guys? Is everybody sitting around at the dinner table
later and and just come up with the ideas? I mean,
and I want to throw in on that the Lemo ramping,
the Lemo with the hot tub in the back with
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Connor and Jim and I think you were driving it,
just trying to get my hand. The Stig was driving. Yeah,
from everybody just sits around and literally throws out the
craziest wild idea and you guys decide, you know that
that one might work. Uh yeah. Back when we first
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started working on MTV with a lot of the Britishers,
Knoxville and Tremaine, all the jackass guys, They always came
out with ideas and said okay, look look, look, if
you're going to come up with an idea, you have
to be willing to do it first. Um, so Jim York. Unfortunately,
now our whole crew really everyone just has seen we've
had enough success that people don't question us. So if
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we're like, we got this cock amie, I had to
do something absolutely insane, people are like, yeah, that makes sense,
they'll they'll they'll pull it off. So we have to
have to really think. I think everything through before we
mentioned anything for sure. I was like the Evil Kinevil deal.
It was such a cool opportunity where History Channel came
and they said, what do you have to do, Um,
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what can you guys do at Nitro Circus where we
can really get back to the roots of action sports
And you know, David Teias said we gotta do something
with Evil Knevil and I was like, oh, cool, well
we gotta jump the buses, We're gonna jump the cars,
or what about Caesar's Palace And a day later we
had confirmation from Greyhound, we had confirmation from Caesar's that
we could jump it. We had all the Evil Knevil,
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all of his um you know. Uh, well, basically all
of those kids, us three kids were all on board,
and I'm like, wow, careful what you asked for? Here
we go. We're gonna be no suspension motorcycles. And I say,
we and me and the mouse in my pocket. But uh,
that's why I was getting ready. Say, I didn't see
anybody else but you on that by Yeah. But the
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coolest thing about Black Rifle is going into that business
meeting for the first time. They're all you know logan,
They're they're like green Berets at you know, in their
dev group and their um you know, seals and they're
they're they're all the top of the top of military.
I've never felt like more of a cissy going into
a boardroom. You know. I'll like tell a story and
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be like yeah, and then they'll tell a story and
I'm like, I'm just gonna shut up and be back
in the corner, like with my tail, be two my
legs like that. I got nothing that compares to anything.
These guys have been through, the injuries, they've been through,
the trauma they've been through, and there's no fame or glory.
It's just these guys, you know, they they did it
for the country, and it's uh, it's pretty pretty amazing
to be a part of a company where, you know,
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I shoot. I don't know if the guys have any
business sense or anything, but I tell you their way
they live their life, their fundamentals, their their passions, and
what they want to accomplish is all right along the
lines of of how I was brought up. You know,
we had a very military family. My wife's dad was
was a marine, My dad was a marine. My mom's
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father was in the Navy, or so my grandfather on
my mom's side, my grandfather on my dad's side was
also in the Navy. Um. You know, we live in Annapolis,
which is a Nable academy. My best friend growing up
was a Navy seal. Um. So, even though I'm not
part of the military, and I have no idea what
it's like to people shoot at me or anything like that,
I don't even want to pretend that I know anything
about that, but um, you know, I feel like to
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a certain extent that camaraderie that that those guys uh
you know have and and kind of uh knowing what
it's like to have, you know, to have someone else
have their your life in their hands and vice versa,
and just kind of the way they go about their
business is really cool. So walking into a room like
that when they're like, okay, we should probably have a plane,
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Like what kind of plane should we have for black rifle?
I was like, that's a cool concept, and I'm thinking
like jets and whatever. They're like, ce one thirty and
I looked at him how fast and see one thirty
goes like what They're like, yeah, but the best part
is we could have like ping pong tables and then
we can just pick people up in fields. I'm like,
excuse me, Like, well, I haven't done it since the seventies,
but we could probably perfect it with you know, in
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modern technology, like put you hook yourself to a balloon.
They used to do it back in the sixties and seventies,
back and you know Vietnam, and they put people you'd
be in a field. I guess. I mean, not me personally,
but I have a feeling this is going to be
in my future where you have a balloon and the
front of the sea one thirty has a little like
v on it, like a little cone. So the C
one thirty runs into the cone. The balloon goes down,
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hooks in the top and then picks you up and
you go flying like behind the plane and then they
they winch you back into the back of the plane.
So like, this is the kind of ideas that they're
having on how they're gonna pick me up and make
me a route. I'm like, yeah, this is perfect. It
sounds great. And then and in their mind they're like, well,
we've got a guy that will absolutely do it no
matter what our crazy idea is. I know he's gonna
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be in They're all willing to do before I say yes.
So that's one of those guys do it first. I'm
totally I've seen that done before, right, I've I've seen
it on the program before. But I'm telling you, it
feels like it would just jerk everything out of you
ride zero to two out. I don't think that. I
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think I think I dropped the planet bungee technology. I'm
sure it was back in the sixties and seventies. Come on,
I gotta se to broken back ratio here. But from there,
like I said, they'd hook onto me and the plane
wood nose dive and they're like that out of here.
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So yeah, there's a there's a max wait on this
one for sure. For this ride. It's super cool for us.
I think all three of us to be in the
industry is as deep as we are. And when you
see people like Black Rifle, and there's a million examples,
Red Bull, a great example of Lucas Oil and and
and it goes on and on and on. Of the
people that it involved in our industry and support it
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are an immediate respect, I think from all of the
people in the industry like us from our side, you know,
as as we see what they're doing, whether there are
sponsor or even a competing sponsor to our sponsor, we
still have a level of respect for those people that
are coming in and helping the industry generally speaking. And
then whenever you can take it a step further, and
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I don't know if you can go any further than
than these guys as you talk about, and you know,
being on the board and and doing what they've done
for our country and putting their lives on the line
and you know, living in in their world of crap
if you will, you know, whenever they were they were
earning their money. Um Man, I just don't know if
it gets any better than a company like that. It's
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it's super cool. Man. It's a very difficult decision. I
can't imagine. I wish I had the problem to make
a decision between a couple of companies like that. But um,
now you're just trying to make a decision when you
need to get up to go to the bathroom. I
know early, I know, I know. Yeah, I don't know
what time it is I need to go, but I
know it needs to be sooner than I think so.
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But at any rate, man, super super cool. Congratulations on it,
and we wish you the best luck. We love coffee too. Man.
We're old guys too, so we're up on the coffee,
big fans and and the I see the black Rifle
guys at the nhr A events that we do. Uh
they've got they've got some pretty wild trucks and uh
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so I I I love the whole thing about it.
I mean, we're a huge supporter of the military with
fat heads and everything and and uh but yeah, I
mean that's that's really a cool story. And hell, I
even love them better now. I Mean it's like I
I gotta go out and buy some because anybody that
thinks like a cool plane to get would be a
C one thirty and yanking people out of fields. I'm like,
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these are my dudes. That's the that's the gig right there,
and that's how it works, right. I mean what you
just said, I gotta go buy someone. I'm thinking the
same thing on you know, I have no problem with
buying that product and and putting that money back in
because I know a portion of it's coming to our
industry as well. So it's it's super cool man. Yeah,
you know what's funny you said, Lucas Oil. They actually
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helps with the whole Puerto Rico thing as well. They
jumped on board. And you know, there are definitely companies
out there. Um, you know, when you get kind of
callous to a lot of things, a lot of companies
are doing things because of what they're going to get
out of it, and then you have companies that just
truly and genuinely want to be a part of it.
And uh, you know, that's that's pretty cool. So that's
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I've been very fortunate to be, uh somehow just good
enough or just crazy enough, or just the enough amount
of exposure that I've been able to kind of pick
and choose you know the companies that I've I've been
with and get to represent some amazing, amazing brands along
the way. We're gonna take a quick break here on
the other side, we're gonna talk about some racing with
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Travis Pastrano. Stay with us number one ninety nine. We'll
be right back. This segment of the Skinny is brought
to you by Toyota. Welcome back to this getting a
very exciting guest on the show with us here today,
coming to us remotely from his home a personal hospital bed.
It looks like he's made his way to the couch actually,
but that was only for you guys. That was Fastralanda
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in the house with us. Man couldn't be happier to
have him on the show and talking a little bit
about about the background, his new way, his new sponsorship,
his new associates, and uh of course his family, a
little bit where he got started, and Rico and I
to do a little bit of homework because let's face it, man,
you've been in the game for a while now. Went
back and watched the Lives movie. Pretty rough movie to watch,
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I got got, you know, whenever you watch it, I'm
thinking to myself, I think it was made two thousand eight,
like expecting footage to be pretty decent, you know, but
you're watching it's like, oh my god, this is but
it was two thousand and eight. It may have been made,
but that was that was some old footage. The footage
was right, it was, but it was it was wild.
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I mean just watching all the pieces of it and
I'm like, I'm like, they weren't using a phone pit.
They were using smashing the ground pit, you know when
they would miss something. So I saw the first segment
and I looked at the views and it was just
short of forty eight million views. I was like, oh
my god, that is massive, dude. And as we watch it,
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of course, it just brings back all these memories. And
I know that you've been around for a while, very
successful and everything, but I I, you know, I forget
stuff like, holy crap, he ran the these Nations. They
won the Nations with Roger Acosta, right, I mean, Roger
was to me man. The media made it out to
where he like we didn't get along, but no, he uh,
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he was awesome. And he was the team manager of
a team USA I was sixteen years old, won the
US Championship. But against my heroes. I mean, he had
talent Bolan and Steve Lampson who were probably the favorite
to be picked to go over, and then Roger went
with a rookie and I went over with Ricky Carmichael,
who won the two class, and then um, honestly, it
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was amazing that the you know, the main rider on
the team or the five hunter, the open class rider
was actually Ryan Hughes who hadn't had a great season.
But Roger went with heart over anything, and we were
able to come back with two thousand motorcross the Nations
Championship and Stan Satan uh D g Angele or whatever.
Sorry my bad France. There was probably a hundred fifty
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screaming people and they were all booing. Me jumped over
the French rider on the last lap to make that's
number one. That was great. Yeah, the the jump over
that I mean literally aired it out and landed way
down that hill and it was it was so funny.
I was watching that, but I had watched a lot
of the other footage and knew of all the other
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you know, some of the footage as well, but it
was like that looks like where you were running in
the woods, you know where you guys were just out there,
not jacking around, more practicing. But that was like something
that somebody probably wouldn't really actus that much. Like hell,
he had it in his bag. It was there. Yeah,
it was incredible sixteen years old, if I if I
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recall and wow, you know, but but that movie brought
back some of these memories and and just how talented
you were and your your dedication to the sport and
seeing you work out the way you were working out.
It's when people meet you or they see you for
the limited amount of time that they actually see you
on television, and they begin to put together their picture
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of who they think Travis Pastrana is. They would never
I don't think they would ever put together who you
were whenever they showed you on some sort of machine
working out until you were absolutely all but dead, I
mean all but dead, working as hard as you could
possibly work. I mean there's a lot of world class
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athletes that that can push themselves up to ninety nine percent,
but to give a hundred percent, and and you clearly
had given a hundred percent, like short of dying on
the machine. And I don't think that people know that
side of you because you're such a kind, gentle soul.
They don't see that that work ethic inside of you.
It sounds like you to be competitive at h at
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the top level of any sport, Um, you know, it
takes on commitment. And that's at the end of the day.
When I was at the races, people are always like, man,
you're always are you always as happy? And like if
I'm at the races, yeah, if I'm doing what I
love to do, I'm pretty giddy. Like I'm a dork.
I just love rotting dirt bikes, I love cars. I've
been very passionate about what I've done and that that's
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gone a long way. But um, you know I said
my dad was a marine and that work ethic was
instilled in me early. Um, you know, if you're successful,
I don't care for your if it's ping pong, you know, uh, foosball, uh,
whatever it is. You know, five horsepower breaks in Stratton's.
If you're the world champ, you've put in a lot
of time, you worked your butt off, and uh, I've
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been very fortunate to be able to continue every time.
And Hurt I got me into cars and go karts
and everything, and um, you know, even this last year.
You know, this is the first year in car racing
where I didn't feel like a gentleman driver. I felt
like I belonged. Um. I beat you know, the two
thousand nineteen world champion and Nitro rally cross uh. This
year I beat Scott Speed, who was the last American
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to run in the F one Championship and uh multiple
time rally cross champion. Um, you know, won the US
Rally Championship. This year I got to got second over
against Team McLaren with a honest with the Subaru. Their
base model car was like a million dollars more than
my race car was, so uh you know it was.
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It was a wild year. Set the record again up
Mount Washington Hill climb, uh in a nine eight horsepower
absolute beast of a four cylinder that was had a
top speed on hundred forty miles an hour and a
speed zone of fifteen mile an hour. So um yeah,
definitely pushed the limits a little bit my whole life.
But I found that I'm not always the best at
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stuff like NASCAR, where a Connor d Alien is very
first race beat me, which was very devastating. I think
you have a story on that one coming up. But
but yeah, anything that I'm able to take a little
bit more risk than the next person and kind of
figure out like if you put us in a parking
lot right and you have cones, I'll never beat the
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Joey Loganos and the Kyle Bushes and the Chase Elliott's.
But if you put a big jump or big cliffs
or huge trees where those cones are, I still believe
that my ability is the same and I'm gonna go
just as hard whether it's a cone or two hundred
foot cliff, And that's where my ability lies. And that
is why We've won six u S National Grally Championships
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and finally got the rally Cross Championship this year. That
that brings up a great angle because if I had
to evaluate you, I would say that your lack of
ability you run anything at versus it's probably what's kept
you that and the fact that you really didn't want
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to chase it um. But if you were dedicated your
career towards racing, and maybe maybe that's why you didn't
get a two fifty win, I don't know, but you're
you love to live on the edge. That's just who
you are. It's how you're wired. You love to live
at a percent and a lot of times you gotta
write at n if you're gonna bring the thing home
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and and chase a championship. But for you, it's it's
right on the ragged edge. That's where you're you're alive.
That's what you do, and I think you do it
better than anybody else on the planet. And I've got
to think that that lends itself towards the rally racing
that you're doing, because there's a fear factor there for
everybody at some level, and yours seems to be much
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higher than the rest of the world. Calculated risk, risk
verse reward. Um, you know it's NASCAR, no one's afraid
of crashing. I mean, don't get me wrong, is still dangerous.
I mean he still had Kyle Busch, uh, you know,
broke his femer at Daytona. And it's a couple of
couple of years ago, but it's cool now with rally cross. Um,
it's the first sport in a long time that drivers
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have been coming over. I mean we had Chase Elliott
jumped into a race this year, Kyle Bush jumped into
a race this year. UM. Looking at more guys from
India and NASCAR and maybe even a couple of the
guys former F one drivers coming in, um, you know
for a race or hopefully old championship this year. UM.
Still working out some some things. But it's the first
time and forever that you know, like my dad said,
back where men were men, you know, and and you
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actually get to push yourself. You get to the track
and your equal parts scared as you are excited. UM.
And I think that's something that's been missing. The racing
is great, don't get wrong, NASCAR, it's the most competitive
sport I think in the world. Those drivers are most
underrated drivers in the world. Um. But at the end
of the day, to be able to go out and
to be able to drive a lap by yourself on
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a track and be thrilled and have that adrenaline and
be sited. I mean Scott Speed doesn't get excited for anything,
and he came off giddy at the second round when
you know there we had a jump at Tanner Faust
went over two feet on I mean, yeah, he should
have probably broken his back, but he wrote out of it. Um,
he wrote out of it a big deal. It's great stuff.
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And that's exactly right, and that that's where you excel,
that's where you shine. Even though there's a tree on
the other side. Your psyche is if I do everything right,
that tree should never be a factor. So why would
If you can dodge your rents, you can dodge your ball.
Exactly it. Let's go back. Let's go back to the uh,
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the NASCAR event, the truck series raise Uh right in
the middle of the good old covid. Uh is that
your mailman? Just kidding? Yes? So sorry, idiot, Yeah yeah,
leave it at the door. Uh So. Anyhow, so Jim,
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our our friend from Pitt Viper uh, decided that he
would he would wager a little bet with me, the
two eyewear companies going at it. He started it clearly
and uh, he bet sixty nine dollars on Travis is
faster in the pit Viper shades and uh hashtag hashtag
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I can't read, And I said, vs, I got Connor
for seventy faster than TP. He said another couple of words.
I can't say. I'll call you four twenty sixty nine,
I said, I. I said, I'll raise that to twelve
sixty two oh seven three times. You're He goes oh
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that's at sixty sixty nine. Well, Connor beat Travis, so
we're still trying to figure out where the six thousand,
nine hundred sixty nine hours at sixty nine sis like
your girls math was was pretty pretty on point there. Yeah. Yeah,
and and he he's he he's trying to play off
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the uh Travis, please go fast. Also too drunk to
text hello goodbye? Yeah, the pit viper cruise. I mean,
and you guys, honestly fat heads. You guys are two
p's in a pod um and you both had a
pretty good confidence in your your driver's um. You know.
I'm not really known for my left turning abilities, or
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my pavement abilities or my rear wheel drive abilities. But
it was Connor Daily's first ever truck race. I had
race Vegas. I mean, heck, I had been top ten
there in uh in Nationwide or whatever the I guess.
They called it Exfinity Now Series, so I was like,
I can do this. It's kind of a more of
a worn out track, it's more of a sliding track.
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And sure enough Connor Daily, fat heads driver who led
the most laps this year at the D five hundred,
who also jumped into before we started on that also,
the tire than the sky onto his wing, so you know,
we're a world record tire punt right right right right
in front of our suite in turn two. I mean
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that's where it was over there, and I've got everybody,
I'm like, shut up, I don't want to hear, and
like I'm watching the TV and our sweep so i
can catch the whole track, and I'm like, where did
this come from? Like that's what Connor said. He didn't
even see it. He had no idea tire at the wall.
It came from outer space, dropped right out of the wing.
But honestly, if Connor's pit crew and I don't know,
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maybe and I've learned through my racing that maybe you
could overshoot your pit or undershoot it, so it could
have been Connor's fault. But it looked like the pit
crew fought on TV. I'm not putting blame anywhere. But
he went in and first came out and fourth made
it like three laps and the tire fill the sky
right on his wing and ruined his chances. But to
lead the most laps was pretty cool. And then the
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fact that he came out later that year and drove
NASCAR just for fun, just because we had a dollar
bet a little bit different than your UM, so I
agree Jim should have to pay you. And the fact
that Connor got into a limo on an eighty foot jump,
um and he we tried to get Connor to drive
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because I wasn't allowed to drive because of contractual stipulations
with anyway, long story long you could, Yeah, So what
had happened was, um, we filled the limo the back
of it for UM. Actually I was very twisted tea,
which I was also not allowed to be a part of.
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UM anyway, something about drinking and driving doesn't doesn't go well.
But they weren't drinking. They were in the back of
the limo, so technically, I don't know, maybe that's a loophole.
But so Connor's like, I'm not driving, but I'll jump
in the back. I'm like, you would really jump into
a swimming pool that we made out of a tarp
and filled it up with a garden nose of cold water.
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He he told me, He told me that over you know,
an eight foot jump in a limo before you drive
it where the harness and you get to wear a
helmet He's like, yeah, I think so, because any last
time Founder drove, you flipped my my canons over like
four times. So it does kind of make sense if
he told if Jim told him me, Connor is looking
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around and he said yeah. When I got in the
back of it, he goes, clearly, I thought that there
would like be handles, and he said to Jimmy goes,
where in the hell are we holding on to He goes,
just grab the tarp and kind of wadded up because
the water is not going to float out of the
back of the limo for any reason. Right. No, speaking
of that Hus movie, and you know part of that,
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what was your father talking about you? You had been
wanting to go off of some big jump, and he
kept saying, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it,
and goes in the back to get the loader to
to make another jump. And somebody comes running over and
says Mr Pastrana, Travis is hurt, and I guess you've gone.
He said, he know what the big jump, didn't he
And of course you had bawled it up. And it
was just before I want to say, the start of
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a season. Yep, to be a plateau fracture, torn a
c L BUCKINGHANDI mys kiss. I pretended I wasn't hurt
and raced the first round and that was that was
for my season. Then then I got the X rays
and everything. They're like, what were you thinking? Like, I
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was just thinking I didn't want to get kild by
my dad because they said the Costa was upset with you.
And he's like, no, man, I'll be fine, dude, I'm
gonna I'm gonna win. Yeah, Well, Roger had a love
hate with me. Like, So I was supposed to go
out to my first ever pro race with Suzuki, just
turned sixteen, and I've neglected to mention that. So I
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was gonna get there on Wednesday morning to do a
test before the first ever like World Supercross out of
the Rose Bowl, and I was gonna be a first
time representing Suzuki, and I've neglected to mention that I had.
I was going on Letterman in New York the night
before and I was going to do a jump and
I crashed because it was raining a little bit and
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I hit a fire hydrant off the side and dislocated.
I had set second degree separation of my left shoulder.
So I got there and I couldn't practice, and I
couldn't test, and I couldn't do anything. And I was like, Roger,
I'll win this weekend. He's like, when you can't even ride?
And I won by dunblock and I was crying the
whole time, but I made it through the end. And
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from that point he kind of had that like, all right, well,
at least he's tough. He's stupid, but he's tough. Can
we all agree that you clearly have much less pain
receptors than the rest of us mere mortals? I mean,
for whatever reason, pain does not register in your brain
the way it does to the rest of us. Oh no,
it definitely registers. It's all the same. It's just a
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matter of is it worth it? And for me, everyone says,
how could you possibly keep doing this to your body?
Over and over? I said, because when I'm hurt, what
I don't like more. What I'm more upset about isn't
the fact that I'm hurt, like as in pain, it's
the fact that I can't do what I love to do.
So why should I stop doing what I love to
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do to avoid being here? Yeah? Well, I mean I
saw a quick clip where there's pins sticking out of
your hand and you grab one of the pins with
a pair of pliers. I'm thinking, well they were there
were Medically, I was in the doctor's arfe. I'm getting
friends with my orthopedics. They usually let me like pull
some put pins out and stuff, but no, so this
last time, the scot the bass rig and I land
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and there, you know, medics come over and I'm like, no,
I'm fine, I'm fine. I go to get up and
I felt my sacred actually like kind of moved, and
I was like, yep, I broke my pelvis. And then
I had a warm feeling going into my gut, said
and I'm bleeding out, and they started laughing. I was like, no, no,
I'm actually serious. I broke my pelvis for sure, and
I'm definitely bleeding out. And I started laughing because I
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don't I see the cry or laugh, so I figured
they didn't believe me, and they're like, oh, yeah, ashare
and like, sure enough, I'm usually pretty good at self diagnostics.
It reminds me of that one that one big jump
where you cased it hard and and was it your
pelvis on the whole They didn't think anything was wrong
with you, And the doctors said, okay, you can get
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up now. Your mom's like losing your mind, like are
you crazy? But the whole center section, if you will,
of your pelvis, of of your body had had dropped down, Like,
I don't know, is that the one? Yeah? So well,
actually so this one I did that. I was actually
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a third known case to not bleed out after dislocating
both of your SI joints, so basically shattering your hip
or your pelvis, so your spine goes kind of anyway,
long story long, the medical the non medical term is
hurt a lot, so every time that I but I
didn't really break anything except for the pelvis, and the
doctors hadn't seen that before, um just because it was
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they say the they're in no case at the time. Um.
But interestingly enough, it just ripped all the ligaments and
the tendants and everything around it. So when I was
laying on my back, it still registered as though it
was in the right spot. But whenever I try to move,
my spine would basically move not the spinal cord was
column was fine. Um, but I passed out and I
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realized how much pain I could take because I mean
other people might be able to take more, but that
was all I could take before I passed out. So
I realized I taking the most pain that I could
ever take, and there's not a lot more to work
about it. It's unbelievable what you've been through. And the
fact that you go back and continue to attack at
full speed, man, is is nothing short of spectacular. That's
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why you're a household name. It's why it's who you are.
You said that going back to the very beginning of
the show, was like, man, that's what got me here.
This is that's just who I am, and I'm having fun.
But that's exactly why why we're talking to you today.
That's why we love to watch you and the memories
you've brought all of us through out our entire lives. Man,
Oh my goodness, could could never thank you enough. I
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truly appreciate it's been Uh, it's been awesome. And uh,
you know, just like I said, like my dad always said,
we're just trying to ride this train. So the wheels
come off and a couple of come off along the way.
But man, if you love what you do every single day,
is is a true blessing. And I've been very fortunate
to live with my dream. You've got mc guiver in
your corner, and put those wheels back on. No problem,
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that's all right, that's all right, all right. Thanks, ladies
and gentlemen. I hope you enjoyed this show man. It
doesn't get any better than this guy right here. Keep
your eyes on him. He'll be competing here again in
two for our pleasure and our enjoyment. But he's gonna
be having all the fun. Thanks a lot, Travis Pastrana
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you by Toyota. I couldn't be more excited for the
guests that we have here today. He's as big as
anybody that we've had on this show, and I promise
you we've had the who's who over the course of
the past couple of years. Rico Elmore will join me
here today. We have tracked dude back there are running
the controls, Michael Young and of course I'm ken Stout.
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There's only a handful of people that have been able
to transcend the motorsports industry into a household name. Mario
Andretti certainly is one of those that comes to mind
right off the bat. I think John Forrest is probably
in that arena and in this guest. I think a
good example would also be Kinevil was a household name.
So whenever I say that it's a it's an extremely
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difficult thing to do, and this guy's certainly has a
lack of fear at least compared to us mere immortals,
and his extreme ability uh to pull off the successful
stunts and uh things that he's done over the course
of his career have helped make him a household name.
He's done it truly in a lane of his own.
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He's blazed his own path and has really opened up
the door for many others, And the dichotomy of his
personality to go along with it makes absolutely no sense.
One of the most competitive guys you will ever meet,
a champion at the highest levels of the game, which
proves his uh, his desire to win and what it
takes to get there. He has all of that, But
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then to talk to him, he is the nicest, kindest,
most gentle guy you could ever meet. You wonder how
all that could be combined inside of one person. But
that is truly Travis Pastrana one nine nine, and I
would borderlines say that even the one nine nine has
become merely almost a household name. You could go by
one and not even say Travis Forastrana. But welcome to
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the show Man. They don't come any bigger than you.
We appreciate the time. Shoot, I'm gonna hire you as
my agent. That was a great introduction. Yeah, good stuff. Man. Um, Hey,
before we get started, and there's no matter how long
we talk here and will never be able to cover
all the cool stuff that we could could cover with you.
But first and foremost, let's talk about your health. Fresh
(02:33):
off of a gnarly accident, man. Uh, tell us how
you're sitting up and you're smiling. Um, you're not in
the hospital, and no better guy to be interviewing you
than a guy fresh off the off the table himself
with a with a full knee replacement here. So I've
got a bag in narcotics in my pocket if you need.
So you know we're we're working on the same same program.
(02:57):
How you feeling, man, I mean, I'll have anee replacement here. Uh.
They say probably within the next ten years, but I
don't know. You're you're positive reinforcement for me. Man. You're
looking good looking, like you're getting around. They had you
up walking day one already back on your on your podcast.
So definitely, uh, definitely things are looking promisely modern orthopedics,
I'll tell you, yeah, man, And you gotta be strong,
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and I got tune pounds. I gotta push you around here,
so you'll you'll be way better than me. There's a
couple eighty year old women that uh are out doing
even physical things. True that that would be true. So, UM,
talk to me about what happened there on that that
base jump. I know we kind of talked about it
a little bit before, and I'm sure people have have
googled it to to learn a little bit. But but
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tell us what happened? Man? What went wrong on that deal? Uh? No,
It's interesting. I've been battling my whole life with um,
you know, kind of the fun side, the why we
started in motorsports, why I got into the dirt bikes, um,
you know, kind of the shenanigans, if you will, the
base jumping, the skydiving them, all the things, the freestyle
motocross that that go along with racing, um you know.
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And I had an awesome opportunity through Ken Block to
to do the basically the gym Conna series, which is
arguably the you know, the biggest um, you know, car video, YouTube,
video movie whatever you wanna call it, stunt movie, um,
of all time. And and Ken was was generous enough
to to let me, uh kind of jump in on
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what he's created, And I thought, no better way to
start off an iconic driving video. They're doing a base
jump front flip out of a out of a hotel room.
Of course, made total sense in my head. And uh, well,
I'm not a great bass jumper, as it turns out,
And uh, I fumbled my landing a little bit, broke
my back, my hip, my pelvis, and got a screw
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through my sad room. Uh, a couple of blood transfusions,
still have a nice catheter in, and I'm gonna miss
the first round of the Rally Championship because of this.
So um, you know, deaf only still getting a lot
of flak on why do you do the things you
do when you could just do this or you could
be better at this if you didn't do that. But
at the end of the day, I think, kind of
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who I've become and why I've been able to do
the things I've been able to do is because and
we always pushed the envelope. We always have fun. At
the end of the day, if you're not having fun,
it's not worth it, you know. And it's definitely been
a wild ride. Yeah, the I know that. The wise
idea was this was gonna happen when we were all
in Vegas together for the truck race. So glad that
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didn't happen. Glad that then I just must up. I
told my wife. I was like, she's like, I don't
like base, Jimmy, I don't like based. I'm like, oh,
don't worry, this one's full proof. Can't possibly mess it up.
Like I could call her in the ambulance going to
the hospital because we did it at daybreak, just at
dawns because it's less wind usually. I was like, um,
so I kind of had a little bit of a mishap.
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Oh boy leading out into my belly and my back
feels broken. But I don't worry. I'll be fine. Oh my,
Uh how many of those calls? Has she gotten? Too many?
Probably I don't know even one too many, but god busted.
She's she puts up with me. And I tell you now,
my wife's two time world champion in in skateboarding. And
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you know, they say, oh, you must be you know,
raising your kids very you know, in the extreme world.
But I think Lindsay is definitely more extreme with with
the kids than I am. I'm like that. Uh, I'm
not quite a helicopter parent, but definitely more so than
than lindsay as far as uh knowing what can go
wrong and trying to make sure that it doesn't happen
to them. But they're they're definitely both. My girls are
(06:37):
uh pretty uh brave, I guess considering the their peer group.
But you know, it's fun. They're in cheer, so totally
different world than I'm used to. Well, it's uh it
sounds like your dad. I mean I watched I watched
where your dad jumped out of the tree. I was
watching some old video. I just I remembered, you know,
(06:59):
from from the past, us watching some stuff with your dad.
And of course you know the support your mom and
dad had given you through the along the way and
your mom working that speedback you you definitely probably didn't
mess with her, right, No, I definitely. I mean my
dad was was in the Marine Corps. So if you
slept till seven o'clock, uh, you know in the morning
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on a Sunday, uh that you were a lazy pile
of crap. So um, definitely good to have that work ethic.
I think I learned a lot from him. But definitely
I was much more afraid of my mom. She she
was harped a lot on the education side of things. Um,
she believed in me a lot more than my dad did.
He was like, look, his brother was quarterback for Devin
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Broncos and still ended up teaching health and football and
wrestling coach at an Roman community college and work construction
with my dad and his other brothers on there, you know,
during his summer vacation. So he's like, look, best athletes
ever come out of our county, maybe our state, and
he's still working construction and teaching health community He's like,
(08:02):
you're never gonna make it. His impressed ride that train
to the wheels fall off. I loved how he was
teaching you how to uh drive the bobcat at about Oh,
I don't know, you were maybe four maybe three? Yeah, yeah,
just before my third birthday, knocked down a wall with it, so,
oh my god, you were two years old. Wow? Yeah,
(08:23):
I mean that was I think about my granddaughter right right,
I'm like, there's no way I would put her on that.
That is a horrible idea. No, it was a horrible idea,
but it was fun. I put my daughter on on
a riding more. When we lived in Jersey, we had
a big backyard and I put her on I had
a just a John Deere riding more. And I don't
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know how old she was, she had to be, I
don't know, maybe five six years old, summer up in
that neighborhood and watching her cruise around, you this huge
backyard that she could play in, and somehow managed to
run right over the top of the grille, which of
course had the gas line connected to it underneath. Oh no,
so and she didn't crash, You didn't fall off, which
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is my big concern, you know. And you see it happening,
I'm thinking to myself, well, certainly she's gonna turn, you know,
but no, she never turns. It kind of reminded me
of that, to be honest with you. Brought back a
good memory. Kids are wild. I've I've learned a lot
from my girls, and uh, my daughter wouldn't. So we
we had him riding a little one seven e sec
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kind of carts and um, my daughter again, she's five,
but she's doing some jumps and cruising around and you know,
like on motorcycles and everything, and she just ran straight
into a tree and she was crying. She's like, I'm
never wearing a seatbelt again, and she had like a
little cruise across the chest. I was like, no, that's
seatbelt actually saved you from smacking your head against the tree.
It's like, really, yeah, you know, nothing common about sets,
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but trying to trying to get Yeah, that's uh, that's
some good stuff. So uh we we were talking about
it prior to the show starting, and man, Red Bull
Forever and Black Rifle Coffee now, which you know, everything
I've seen of those guys in a lessen The Red
Bull guys great guys, but Black Rifle got a great
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story behind it. Tell us about that, you know, It's
it's awesome. Honestly. Everything that I've been doing in the
last couple of years really similar to when because super
was not super sorry Suzuki. Um, when I was riding
Factory Suzuki and motocross and supercross back in two thousand
one two thousand two, there was a Soba Suzuki team,
so we didn't really have a choice and Red Bull
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was like, hey, look and they they brought me over
to Europe and uh, they helped me basically get into
car racing and they did a lot for me, even
when I was still not a Red Bull athlete. Um,
you know, and as companies grow and whatnot, the Red
Bull has done so much for my career. They've done
so much for action sports. Um. But really, over the
last probably maybe eight years, I've been really good friends
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with a couple of the owners from Black Rifle, And
you know, the company started off, you know, pretty small,
uh years ago where it wasn't you know, they didn't
really have the means to do what a Red Bull
could do. Um, you know, and all of a sudden,
exponentially it's growing, it's growing, and um, you know Black
Rifle they were helping so much. I mean we went
to uh, um you know, her came, Maria came along
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and ended up which was a great, horrible idea. Were
actually signed up with Kevin Wyndham and Ryan SIPs to
represent Team Puerto Rico because they didn't have the funding
to send a team because of the hurricane. UM. And
we went down and raised some money race the motocross.
The nations qualified for the final, which was shocking for
a bunch of old guys. UM. And then went down
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and used all the money that we made to to
go down and uh, you know, put some ruse on
some houses, but really just bring some fun to back
to you know, kind of the kids in the motto industry,
and Puerto Rico fixed up a couple of tracks that
weren't you know, running for almost two years by the
time we got down there. Um and Black Rifle came
in and they they spent you know, a hundred thousand
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dollars of their own money, like the owners of Black
Rifle did privately, and came down and they brought all
kinds of guys that were construction crews and you know,
personally came down themselves to work for for two weeks
down there with us and didn't want anything out of
it at all. They just were coming down because it
was a cool cause. And you know, we got Walter
Read right up the road, and they just have all
these plans for like, hey, look, anything we can do
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to help the community, anything we can do to especially
the veteran community, and then the US. Um, you know,
we want to be America's Brandon. A lot of the
stuff I couldn't do because I was with Red Bulls.
So honestly, it's it's not nothing against Red Bull. RedBull
has been absolutely amazing Black Rifles, Like, look, we don't
even have anything against Red bull We just we're actually
gonna sponsor you so we can just hang out and
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do more cool stuff and give back more to the
communities and and really just have more fun. So, um,
you know, definitely Red Bulls still doing some some projects
as a kind of a family or friend of Red
bull if you will. But um, you know, at the
end of the day, getting older, drinking more coffee, and
the guys that black people, I just it's really all
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some opportunity at this point in their brand, at this
point in my life to be able to do some
cool stuff, and especially now my older daughter actually getting
into kind of writing movies. They're not she can barely write,
but she just really likes uh you know, Ale directing
and kind of writing stories and short stories. Really but um,
you know, all the guys j T, especially in his
daughters at the same age, they all go to I
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Fly actually invested Black Rifle invested in I Fly, like
a lot of the stuff that's right up our alley.
It just all fits with the family. And as far
as the family tie, there's there's no better brand for
me right now than than the coffee company of Black Rifle.
What a great story. Man. I did not see it
going that way. I mean, my question was gonna be
that had to be an extremely tough decision. You walk
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back into the dining room with your wife and say, honey,
I just was offered this incredible program from Black Rifle Coffee,
but I would have to get rid of Red Bull.
That's what I'm thinking in my mind. But you're telling
me they're playing to playing ball together to some degree,
and man, that's beautiful. Not playing ball together. I mean definitely,
Red Bull sees it a little differently than Black Rifle.
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Black Rifles basically like, hey, let's just have a lot
of fun. Man, this is gonna be awesome, and yeah,
whatever we have to do to support the industry, support
the sports. They're they're fans of action sport, especially j
t Um, Jared Taylor, He's been a huge supporter of
everything action sports. And you know they they brought Pilot
X in. I had this grand scheme idea from Nate
(14:24):
Wessel and he's like, oh, we should have a helicopter
with a mini gun and Pilot X blowing up some cars. Well,
Royan mac jumps over top with an American flag cape
and you slide underneath um and black ripples like yeah,
let's do it, and I mean exponentially money per reward.
It didn't make any sense. But they were like, this
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is gonna be the greatest picture at that time, and
they didn't. And you know, I'm not saying that our
relationship is gonna be um, uh, extremely smart relationship, but
it's gonna be a lot of fun. So you know, Lindsay,
coming from the skate background, you know, people just they
don't leave Red Bull Red Bulls one so much. They
have a very good brand. Um, the athletes they sponsor,
they generally tend to keep lifelong and um, you know
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definitely you know, no hard feelings there. They've been awesome
to me and helped build my career. But um, like
I said, this is just an awesome opportunity to have
some great fun with friends and my parents. Since day one,
my dad always said, you're never gonna make it, you know,
like I said earlier, but if you can have fun
to do what you love, keep doing it. And I
think this is a this is a perfect perfect place
for me. We just scratch the service. One of the
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Once again, we are back here with one of the
most exciting guests, in my personal opinion, that we've had
(16:12):
on the show. And Travis Pastrano has taken a few
minutes as he is recovering from a nasty crash that
he had just a couple of weeks ago. But looking
forward to another season, another successful season, I should say
behind the wheel of that incredible Subaru rally car. We'll
talk to him about that, uh in the future here
probably next segment or so, but I want to go
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back to something that you had said as you were
talking about Black Rifle coming on board here and some
of the ideas that were initially thrown out, and um,
it almost reminds me of, uh, what's the show from
Family Guy? What was that show we watched three and
a half days or seven and a a half days or
oh yeah, yeah, six days to show? Six days to
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show Family Guy? South Park, South Park where they all
get together, you know, and they come up with with ideas.
So I've often wondered, how does that process work with
you guys? Is everybody sitting around at the dinner table
later and and just come up with the ideas? I mean,
and I want to throw in on that the Lemo ramping,
the Lemo with the hot tub in the back with
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Connor and Jim and I think you were driving it,
just trying to get my hand. The Stig was driving. Yeah,
from everybody just sits around and literally throws out the
craziest wild idea and you guys decide, you know that
that one might work. Uh yeah. Back when we first
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started working on MTV with a lot of the Britishers,
Knoxville and Tremaine, all the jackass guys, They always came
out with ideas and said okay, look look, look, if
you're going to come up with an idea, you have
to be willing to do it first. Um, so Jim York. Unfortunately,
now our whole crew really everyone just has seen we've
had enough success that people don't question us. So if
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we're like, we got this cock amie, I had to
do something absolutely insane, people are like, yeah, that makes sense,
they'll they'll they'll pull it off. So we have to
have to really think. I think everything through before we
mentioned anything for sure. I was like the Evil Kinevil deal.
It was such a cool opportunity where History Channel came
and they said, what do you have to do, Um,
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what can you guys do at Nitro Circus where we
can really get back to the roots of action sports
And you know, David Teias said we gotta do something
with Evil Knevil and I was like, oh, cool, well
we gotta jump the buses, We're gonna jump the cars,
or what about Caesar's Palace And a day later we
had confirmation from Greyhound, we had confirmation from Caesar's that
we could jump it. We had all the Evil Knevil,
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all of his um you know. Uh, well, basically all
of those kids, us three kids were all on board,
and I'm like, wow, careful what you asked for? Here
we go. We're gonna be no suspension motorcycles. And I say,
we and me and the mouse in my pocket. But uh,
that's why I was getting ready. Say, I didn't see
anybody else but you on that by Yeah. But the
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coolest thing about Black Rifle is going into that business
meeting for the first time. They're all you know logan,
They're they're like green Berets at you know, in their
dev group and their um you know, seals and they're
they're they're all the top of the top of military.
I've never felt like more of a cissy going into
a boardroom. You know. I'll like tell a story and
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be like yeah, and then they'll tell a story and
I'm like, I'm just gonna shut up and be back
in the corner, like with my tail, be two my
legs like that. I got nothing that compares to anything.
These guys have been through, the injuries, they've been through,
the trauma they've been through, and there's no fame or glory.
It's just these guys, you know, they they did it
for the country, and it's uh, it's pretty pretty amazing
to be a part of a company where, you know,
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I shoot. I don't know if the guys have any
business sense or anything, but I tell you their way
they live their life, their fundamentals, their their passions, and
what they want to accomplish is all right along the
lines of of how I was brought up. You know,
we had a very military family. My wife's dad was
was a marine, My dad was a marine. My mom's
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father was in the Navy, or so my grandfather on
my mom's side, my grandfather on my dad's side was
also in the Navy. Um. You know, we live in Annapolis,
which is a Nable academy. My best friend growing up
was a Navy seal. Um. So, even though I'm not
part of the military, and I have no idea what
it's like to people shoot at me or anything like that,
I don't even want to pretend that I know anything
about that, but um, you know, I feel like to
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a certain extent that camaraderie that that those guys uh
you know have and and kind of uh knowing what
it's like to have, you know, to have someone else
have their your life in their hands and vice versa,
and just kind of the way they go about their
business is really cool. So walking into a room like
that when they're like, okay, we should probably have a plane,
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Like what kind of plane should we have for black rifle?
I was like, that's a cool concept, and I'm thinking
like jets and whatever. They're like, ce one thirty and
I looked at him how fast and see one thirty
goes like what They're like, yeah, but the best part
is we could have like ping pong tables and then
we can just pick people up in fields. I'm like,
excuse me, Like, well, I haven't done it since the seventies,
but we could probably perfect it with you know, in
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modern technology, like put you hook yourself to a balloon.
They used to do it back in the sixties and seventies,
back and you know Vietnam, and they put people you'd
be in a field. I guess. I mean, not me personally,
but I have a feeling this is going to be
in my future where you have a balloon and the
front of the sea one thirty has a little like
v on it, like a little cone. So the C
one thirty runs into the cone. The balloon goes down,
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hooks in the top and then picks you up and
you go flying like behind the plane and then they
they winch you back into the back of the plane.
So like, this is the kind of ideas that they're
having on how they're gonna pick me up and make
me a route. I'm like, yeah, this is perfect. It
sounds great. And then and in their mind they're like, well,
we've got a guy that will absolutely do it no
matter what our crazy idea is. I know he's gonna
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be in They're all willing to do before I say yes.
So that's one of those guys do it first. I'm
totally I've seen that done before, right, I've I've seen
it on the program before. But I'm telling you, it
feels like it would just jerk everything out of you
ride zero to two out. I don't think that. I
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think I think I dropped the planet bungee technology. I'm
sure it was back in the sixties and seventies. Come on,
I gotta se to broken back ratio here. But from there,
like I said, they'd hook onto me and the plane
wood nose dive and they're like that out of here.
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So yeah, there's a there's a max wait on this
one for sure. For this ride. It's super cool for us.
I think all three of us to be in the
industry is as deep as we are. And when you
see people like Black Rifle, and there's a million examples,
Red Bull, a great example of Lucas Oil and and
and it goes on and on and on. Of the
people that it involved in our industry and support it
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are an immediate respect, I think from all of the
people in the industry like us from our side, you know,
as as we see what they're doing, whether there are
sponsor or even a competing sponsor to our sponsor, we
still have a level of respect for those people that
are coming in and helping the industry generally speaking. And
then whenever you can take it a step further, and
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I don't know if you can go any further than
than these guys as you talk about, and you know,
being on the board and and doing what they've done
for our country and putting their lives on the line
and you know, living in in their world of crap
if you will, you know, whenever they were they were
earning their money. Um Man, I just don't know if
it gets any better than a company like that. It's
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it's super cool. Man. It's a very difficult decision. I
can't imagine. I wish I had the problem to make
a decision between a couple of companies like that. But um,
now you're just trying to make a decision when you
need to get up to go to the bathroom. I
know early, I know, I know. Yeah, I don't know
what time it is I need to go, but I
know it needs to be sooner than I think so.
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But at any rate, man, super super cool. Congratulations on it,
and we wish you the best luck. We love coffee too. Man.
We're old guys too, so we're up on the coffee,
big fans and and the I see the black Rifle
guys at the nhr A events that we do. Uh
they've got they've got some pretty wild trucks and uh
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so I I I love the whole thing about it.
I mean, we're a huge supporter of the military with
fat heads and everything and and uh but yeah, I
mean that's that's really a cool story. And hell, I
even love them better now. I Mean it's like I
I gotta go out and buy some because anybody that
thinks like a cool plane to get would be a
C one thirty and yanking people out of fields. I'm like,
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these are my dudes. That's the that's the gig right there,
and that's how it works, right. I mean what you
just said, I gotta go buy someone. I'm thinking the
same thing on you know, I have no problem with
buying that product and and putting that money back in
because I know a portion of it's coming to our
industry as well. So it's it's super cool man. Yeah,
you know what's funny you said, Lucas Oil. They actually
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helps with the whole Puerto Rico thing as well. They
jumped on board. And you know, there are definitely companies
out there. Um, you know, when you get kind of
callous to a lot of things, a lot of companies
are doing things because of what they're going to get
out of it, and then you have companies that just
truly and genuinely want to be a part of it.
And uh, you know, that's that's pretty cool. So that's
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I've been very fortunate to be, uh somehow just good
enough or just crazy enough, or just the enough amount
of exposure that I've been able to kind of pick
and choose you know the companies that I've I've been
with and get to represent some amazing, amazing brands along
the way. We're gonna take a quick break here on
the other side, we're gonna talk about some racing with
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Travis Pastrano. Stay with us number one ninety nine. We'll
be right back. This segment of the Skinny is brought
to you by Toyota. Welcome back to this getting a
very exciting guest on the show with us here today,
coming to us remotely from his home a personal hospital bed.
It looks like he's made his way to the couch actually,
but that was only for you guys. That was Fastralanda
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in the house with us. Man couldn't be happier to
have him on the show and talking a little bit
about about the background, his new way, his new sponsorship,
his new associates, and uh of course his family, a
little bit where he got started, and Rico and I
to do a little bit of homework because let's face it, man,
you've been in the game for a while now. Went
back and watched the Lives movie. Pretty rough movie to watch,
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I got got, you know, whenever you watch it, I'm
thinking to myself, I think it was made two thousand eight,
like expecting footage to be pretty decent, you know, but
you're watching it's like, oh my god, this is but
it was two thousand and eight. It may have been made,
but that was that was some old footage. The footage
was right, it was, but it was it was wild.
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I mean just watching all the pieces of it and
I'm like, I'm like, they weren't using a phone pit.
They were using smashing the ground pit, you know when
they would miss something. So I saw the first segment
and I looked at the views and it was just
short of forty eight million views. I was like, oh
my god, that is massive, dude. And as we watch it,
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of course, it just brings back all these memories. And
I know that you've been around for a while, very
successful and everything, but I I, you know, I forget
stuff like, holy crap, he ran the these Nations. They
won the Nations with Roger Acosta, right, I mean, Roger
was to me man. The media made it out to
where he like we didn't get along, but no, he uh,
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he was awesome. And he was the team manager of
a team USA I was sixteen years old, won the
US Championship. But against my heroes. I mean, he had
talent Bolan and Steve Lampson who were probably the favorite
to be picked to go over, and then Roger went
with a rookie and I went over with Ricky Carmichael,
who won the two class, and then um, honestly, it
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was amazing that the you know, the main rider on
the team or the five hunter, the open class rider
was actually Ryan Hughes who hadn't had a great season.
But Roger went with heart over anything, and we were
able to come back with two thousand motorcross the Nations
Championship and Stan Satan uh D g Angele or whatever.
Sorry my bad France. There was probably a hundred fifty
(28:24):
screaming people and they were all booing. Me jumped over
the French rider on the last lap to make that's
number one. That was great. Yeah, the the jump over
that I mean literally aired it out and landed way
down that hill and it was it was so funny.
I was watching that, but I had watched a lot
of the other footage and knew of all the other
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you know, some of the footage as well, but it
was like that looks like where you were running in
the woods, you know where you guys were just out there,
not jacking around, more practicing. But that was like something
that somebody probably wouldn't really actus that much. Like hell,
he had it in his bag. It was there. Yeah,
it was incredible sixteen years old, if I if I
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recall and wow, you know, but but that movie brought
back some of these memories and and just how talented
you were and your your dedication to the sport and
seeing you work out the way you were working out.
It's when people meet you or they see you for
the limited amount of time that they actually see you
on television, and they begin to put together their picture
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of who they think Travis Pastrana is. They would never
I don't think they would ever put together who you
were whenever they showed you on some sort of machine
working out until you were absolutely all but dead, I
mean all but dead, working as hard as you could
possibly work. I mean there's a lot of world class
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athletes that that can push themselves up to ninety nine percent,
but to give a hundred percent, and and you clearly
had given a hundred percent, like short of dying on
the machine. And I don't think that people know that
side of you because you're such a kind, gentle soul.
They don't see that that work ethic inside of you.
It sounds like you to be competitive at h at
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the top level of any sport, Um, you know, it
takes on commitment. And that's at the end of the day.
When I was at the races, people are always like, man,
you're always are you always as happy? And like if
I'm at the races, yeah, if I'm doing what I
love to do, I'm pretty giddy. Like I'm a dork.
I just love rotting dirt bikes, I love cars. I've
been very passionate about what I've done and that that's
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gone a long way. But um, you know I said
my dad was a marine and that work ethic was
instilled in me early. Um, you know, if you're successful,
I don't care for your if it's ping pong, you know, uh, foosball, uh,
whatever it is. You know, five horsepower breaks in Stratton's.
If you're the world champ, you've put in a lot
of time, you worked your butt off, and uh, I've
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been very fortunate to be able to continue every time.
And Hurt I got me into cars and go karts
and everything, and um, you know, even this last year.
You know, this is the first year in car racing
where I didn't feel like a gentleman driver. I felt
like I belonged. Um. I beat you know, the two
thousand nineteen world champion and Nitro rally cross uh. This
year I beat Scott Speed, who was the last American
(31:23):
to run in the F one Championship and uh multiple
time rally cross champion. Um, you know, won the US
Rally Championship. This year I got to got second over
against Team McLaren with a honest with the Subaru. Their
base model car was like a million dollars more than
my race car was, so uh you know it was.
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It was a wild year. Set the record again up
Mount Washington Hill climb, uh in a nine eight horsepower
absolute beast of a four cylinder that was had a
top speed on hundred forty miles an hour and a
speed zone of fifteen mile an hour. So um yeah,
definitely pushed the limits a little bit my whole life.
But I found that I'm not always the best at
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stuff like NASCAR, where a Connor d Alien is very
first race beat me, which was very devastating. I think
you have a story on that one coming up. But
but yeah, anything that I'm able to take a little
bit more risk than the next person and kind of
figure out like if you put us in a parking
lot right and you have cones, I'll never beat the
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Joey Loganos and the Kyle Bushes and the Chase Elliott's.
But if you put a big jump or big cliffs
or huge trees where those cones are, I still believe
that my ability is the same and I'm gonna go
just as hard whether it's a cone or two hundred
foot cliff, And that's where my ability lies. And that
is why We've won six u S National Grally Championships
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and finally got the rally Cross Championship this year. That
that brings up a great angle because if I had
to evaluate you, I would say that your lack of
ability you run anything at versus it's probably what's kept
you that and the fact that you really didn't want
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to chase it um. But if you were dedicated your
career towards racing, and maybe maybe that's why you didn't
get a two fifty win, I don't know, but you're
you love to live on the edge. That's just who
you are. It's how you're wired. You love to live
at a percent and a lot of times you gotta
write at n if you're gonna bring the thing home
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and and chase a championship. But for you, it's it's
right on the ragged edge. That's where you're you're alive.
That's what you do, and I think you do it
better than anybody else on the planet. And I've got
to think that that lends itself towards the rally racing
that you're doing, because there's a fear factor there for
everybody at some level, and yours seems to be much
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higher than the rest of the world. Calculated risk, risk
verse reward. Um, you know it's NASCAR, no one's afraid
of crashing. I mean, don't get me wrong, is still dangerous.
I mean he still had Kyle Busch, uh, you know,
broke his femer at Daytona. And it's a couple of
couple of years ago, but it's cool now with rally cross. Um,
it's the first sport in a long time that drivers
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have been coming over. I mean we had Chase Elliott
jumped into a race this year, Kyle Bush jumped into
a race this year. UM. Looking at more guys from
India and NASCAR and maybe even a couple of the
guys former F one drivers coming in, um, you know
for a race or hopefully old championship this year. UM.
Still working out some some things. But it's the first
time and forever that you know, like my dad said,
back where men were men, you know, and and you
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actually get to push yourself. You get to the track
and your equal parts scared as you are excited. UM.
And I think that's something that's been missing. The racing
is great, don't get wrong, NASCAR, it's the most competitive
sport I think in the world. Those drivers are most
underrated drivers in the world. Um. But at the end
of the day, to be able to go out and
to be able to drive a lap by yourself on
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a track and be thrilled and have that adrenaline and
be sited. I mean Scott Speed doesn't get excited for anything,
and he came off giddy at the second round when
you know there we had a jump at Tanner Faust
went over two feet on I mean, yeah, he should
have probably broken his back, but he wrote out of it. Um,
he wrote out of it a big deal. It's great stuff.
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And that's exactly right, and that that's where you excel,
that's where you shine. Even though there's a tree on
the other side. Your psyche is if I do everything right,
that tree should never be a factor. So why would
If you can dodge your rents, you can dodge your ball.
Exactly it. Let's go back. Let's go back to the uh,
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the NASCAR event, the truck series raise Uh right in
the middle of the good old covid. Uh is that
your mailman? Just kidding? Yes? So sorry, idiot, Yeah yeah,
leave it at the door. Uh So. Anyhow, so Jim,
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our our friend from Pitt Viper uh, decided that he
would he would wager a little bet with me, the
two eyewear companies going at it. He started it clearly
and uh, he bet sixty nine dollars on Travis is
faster in the pit Viper shades and uh hashtag hashtag
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I can't read, And I said, vs, I got Connor
for seventy faster than TP. He said another couple of words.
I can't say. I'll call you four twenty sixty nine,
I said, I. I said, I'll raise that to twelve
sixty two oh seven three times. You're He goes oh
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that's at sixty sixty nine. Well, Connor beat Travis, so
we're still trying to figure out where the six thousand,
nine hundred sixty nine hours at sixty nine sis like
your girls math was was pretty pretty on point there. Yeah. Yeah,
and and he he's he he's trying to play off
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the uh Travis, please go fast. Also too drunk to
text hello goodbye? Yeah, the pit viper cruise. I mean,
and you guys, honestly fat heads. You guys are two
p's in a pod um and you both had a
pretty good confidence in your your driver's um. You know.
I'm not really known for my left turning abilities, or
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my pavement abilities or my rear wheel drive abilities. But
it was Connor Daily's first ever truck race. I had
race Vegas. I mean, heck, I had been top ten
there in uh in Nationwide or whatever the I guess.
They called it Exfinity Now Series, so I was like,
I can do this. It's kind of a more of
a worn out track, it's more of a sliding track.
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And sure enough Connor Daily, fat heads driver who led
the most laps this year at the D five hundred,
who also jumped into before we started on that also,
the tire than the sky onto his wing, so you know,
we're a world record tire punt right right right right
in front of our suite in turn two. I mean
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that's where it was over there, and I've got everybody,
I'm like, shut up, I don't want to hear, and
like I'm watching the TV and our sweep so i
can catch the whole track, and I'm like, where did
this come from? Like that's what Connor said. He didn't
even see it. He had no idea tire at the wall.
It came from outer space, dropped right out of the wing.
But honestly, if Connor's pit crew and I don't know,
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maybe and I've learned through my racing that maybe you
could overshoot your pit or undershoot it, so it could
have been Connor's fault. But it looked like the pit
crew fought on TV. I'm not putting blame anywhere. But
he went in and first came out and fourth made
it like three laps and the tire fill the sky
right on his wing and ruined his chances. But to
lead the most laps was pretty cool. And then the
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fact that he came out later that year and drove
NASCAR just for fun, just because we had a dollar
bet a little bit different than your UM, so I
agree Jim should have to pay you. And the fact
that Connor got into a limo on an eighty foot jump,
um and he we tried to get Connor to drive
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because I wasn't allowed to drive because of contractual stipulations
with anyway, long story long you could, Yeah, So what
had happened was, um, we filled the limo the back
of it for UM. Actually I was very twisted tea,
which I was also not allowed to be a part of.
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UM anyway, something about drinking and driving doesn't doesn't go well.
But they weren't drinking. They were in the back of
the limo, so technically, I don't know, maybe that's a loophole.
But so Connor's like, I'm not driving, but I'll jump
in the back. I'm like, you would really jump into
a swimming pool that we made out of a tarp
and filled it up with a garden nose of cold water.
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He he told me, He told me that over you know,
an eight foot jump in a limo before you drive
it where the harness and you get to wear a
helmet He's like, yeah, I think so, because any last
time Founder drove, you flipped my my canons over like
four times. So it does kind of make sense if
he told if Jim told him me, Connor is looking
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around and he said yeah. When I got in the
back of it, he goes, clearly, I thought that there
would like be handles, and he said to Jimmy goes,
where in the hell are we holding on to He goes,
just grab the tarp and kind of wadded up because
the water is not going to float out of the
back of the limo for any reason. Right. No, speaking
of that Hus movie, and you know part of that,
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what was your father talking about you? You had been
wanting to go off of some big jump, and he
kept saying, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it,
and goes in the back to get the loader to
to make another jump. And somebody comes running over and
says Mr Pastrana, Travis is hurt, and I guess you've gone.
He said, he know what the big jump, didn't he
And of course you had bawled it up. And it
was just before I want to say, the start of
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a season. Yep, to be a plateau fracture, torn a
c L BUCKINGHANDI mys kiss. I pretended I wasn't hurt
and raced the first round and that was that was
for my season. Then then I got the X rays
and everything. They're like, what were you thinking? Like, I
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was just thinking I didn't want to get kild by
my dad because they said the Costa was upset with you.
And he's like, no, man, I'll be fine, dude, I'm
gonna I'm gonna win. Yeah, Well, Roger had a love
hate with me. Like, So I was supposed to go
out to my first ever pro race with Suzuki, just
turned sixteen, and I've neglected to mention that. So I
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was gonna get there on Wednesday morning to do a
test before the first ever like World Supercross out of
the Rose Bowl, and I was gonna be a first
time representing Suzuki, and I've neglected to mention that I had.
I was going on Letterman in New York the night
before and I was going to do a jump and
I crashed because it was raining a little bit and
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I hit a fire hydrant off the side and dislocated.
I had set second degree separation of my left shoulder.
So I got there and I couldn't practice, and I
couldn't test, and I couldn't do anything. And I was like, Roger,
I'll win this weekend. He's like, when you can't even ride?
And I won by dunblock and I was crying the
whole time, but I made it through the end. And
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from that point he kind of had that like, all right, well,
at least he's tough. He's stupid, but he's tough. Can
we all agree that you clearly have much less pain
receptors than the rest of us mere mortals? I mean,
for whatever reason, pain does not register in your brain
the way it does to the rest of us. Oh no,
it definitely registers. It's all the same. It's just a
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matter of is it worth it? And for me, everyone says,
how could you possibly keep doing this to your body?
Over and over? I said, because when I'm hurt, what
I don't like more. What I'm more upset about isn't
the fact that I'm hurt, like as in pain, it's
the fact that I can't do what I love to do.
So why should I stop doing what I love to
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do to avoid being here? Yeah? Well, I mean I
saw a quick clip where there's pins sticking out of
your hand and you grab one of the pins with
a pair of pliers. I'm thinking, well they were there
were Medically, I was in the doctor's arfe. I'm getting
friends with my orthopedics. They usually let me like pull
some put pins out and stuff, but no, so this
last time, the scot the bass rig and I land
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and there, you know, medics come over and I'm like, no,
I'm fine, I'm fine. I go to get up and
I felt my sacred actually like kind of moved, and
I was like, yep, I broke my pelvis. And then
I had a warm feeling going into my gut, said
and I'm bleeding out, and they started laughing. I was like, no, no,
I'm actually serious. I broke my pelvis for sure, and
I'm definitely bleeding out. And I started laughing because I
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don't I see the cry or laugh, so I figured
they didn't believe me, and they're like, oh, yeah, ashare
and like, sure enough, I'm usually pretty good at self diagnostics.
It reminds me of that one that one big jump
where you cased it hard and and was it your
pelvis on the whole They didn't think anything was wrong
with you, And the doctors said, okay, you can get
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up now. Your mom's like losing your mind, like are
you crazy? But the whole center section, if you will,
of your pelvis, of of your body had had dropped down, Like,
I don't know, is that the one? Yeah? So well,
actually so this one I did that. I was actually
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a third known case to not bleed out after dislocating
both of your SI joints, so basically shattering your hip
or your pelvis, so your spine goes kind of anyway,
long story long, the medical the non medical term is
hurt a lot, so every time that I but I
didn't really break anything except for the pelvis, and the
doctors hadn't seen that before, um just because it was
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they say the they're in no case at the time. Um.
But interestingly enough, it just ripped all the ligaments and
the tendants and everything around it. So when I was
laying on my back, it still registered as though it
was in the right spot. But whenever I try to move,
my spine would basically move not the spinal cord was
column was fine. Um, but I passed out and I
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realized how much pain I could take because I mean
other people might be able to take more, but that
was all I could take before I passed out. So
I realized I taking the most pain that I could
ever take, and there's not a lot more to work
about it. It's unbelievable what you've been through. And the
fact that you go back and continue to attack at
full speed, man, is is nothing short of spectacular. That's
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why you're a household name. It's why it's who you are.
You said that going back to the very beginning of
the show, was like, man, that's what got me here.
This is that's just who I am, and I'm having fun.
But that's exactly why why we're talking to you today.
That's why we love to watch you and the memories
you've brought all of us through out our entire lives. Man,
Oh my goodness, could could never thank you enough. I
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truly appreciate it's been Uh, it's been awesome. And uh,
you know, just like I said, like my dad always said,
we're just trying to ride this train. So the wheels
come off and a couple of come off along the way.
But man, if you love what you do every single day,
is is a true blessing. And I've been very fortunate
to live with my dream. You've got mc guiver in
your corner, and put those wheels back on. No problem,
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that's all right, that's all right, all right. Thanks, ladies
and gentlemen. I hope you enjoyed this show man. It
doesn't get any better than this guy right here. Keep
your eyes on him. He'll be competing here again in
two for our pleasure and our enjoyment. But he's gonna
be having all the fun. Thanks a lot, Travis Pastrana
here on the Skinny. Thanks for being with us here
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