GECK IRL: “IS MURDER BAD?”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, folks, it is Lyle.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is just a quick intro to this episode, letting
you know that it was recorded in real life. That's right,
in real life in Washington Square Park in New York City.
I did some interviews with some folks. We got to
talk to a lot of people. It was really great.

(00:23):
I hope you enjoy it, and please let me know
in the comments if you like these kinds of episodes,
because personally, for me, they're my favorite kind to do.
I love getting to chat with people. I felt like
the energy was really there. It was really fun. And
that's it. This is me recording out a intro. There's
gonna be another intro of me talking while I'm actually

(00:46):
in the park. I don't know why I'm doubling up
on the intros or even why I'm still talking right now.
Let's get in to the episode. This is being a
Gecko in the Park. Okay, Hello, listeners of the Therapy
Gecko podcast and watchers of videos on the internet. We

(01:07):
are here today in Washington Square Park because, uh well,
folks who listen to the podcast know that all I've
been talking about is existential dread and going insane. And
I actually figured out guys, get this. I figured out
the solution to going insane and you and you folks

(01:29):
aren't gonna believe it. But all you have to do
is go outside. It's all you have to do. Go outside,
touch some grass. So I'm here.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I feel great, I feel amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Washington Square Park is one of my favorite places that
I have that I have been in my adventures around
the planet. There's all kinds of people here, all living
their own individual lives, and it's a sunny day out
and I'm gonna I'm gonna chat with some people, so
let's do that. This is being a gecko in the park.

(02:03):
Can you tell us your.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Name, ma'am?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yes hi, I'm Tabitha, Tabitha. Nice to meet you, Tabitha.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
How you doing. How's life good?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Good? Beautiful? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
What brings you to the park today?

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I am here with a group that does arts ministry.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
What is arts ministry?

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
So it's artists who love Jesus and are committed to
loving the people in art in the city for him,
like in his name.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So you know what's funny is okay? On the last
episode of the podcast, we had another guy who wanted
to talk about Jesus, but he was he was a
dick about it. You seem way nicer.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Than he does.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
When did you? And I'm actually, I'm I'm open minded
to these things because it's very hard to find direction
in life, and it seems like something that gives people
a lot of direction in life.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So when did you find Jesus?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Ooh, that's a great question.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I actually found Jesus because my parents dragged me to
church as a small child.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Uh, mixed bag.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I don't necessarily advocate for dragging your children places.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Really against their will. Really, okay, I mean that's a
good thing. That's a good thing to advocate against. When like,
do you remember early days when you were in church
as a child? Were you bored? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I fell asleep a lot. My mom is she's got
really soft arms. I love you, mommy, if you ever
see this, And so I would just fall asleep on
her arm.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Our church. I think was also aware that there.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Were children there consistently because we had crosswords and word
searches in the back of the bullet O.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So, yeah, did anything stuck in your head, like were
there any sermons that got into your head that you
were like, all right, I'm kind of vibing with this.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, I think it was more Sunday school. It was
more the time geared towards kiddos where I got to see, Oh,
Jesus is cool and like he doesn't necessarily want me
to dress up in things that like choke me on
Sunday mornings and go sit and fall asleep in church
for two hours.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, but he does like want to talk to me
about stuff. What do you talk to Jesus about everything? Oh?
My god, is there any topics off? Have you ever
started talking to him? And He's like, keep that one
to yourself.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
No.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Never.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
In fact, it's scary to me how much I can
just hear him say yeah, keep going cool, that's.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
What I want. Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Do you feel like and he withholds judgment?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That's thing.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
It's not even that he withholds judgment so much as
I feel so clearly his love.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think our best friends, like in the world aren't
people that would let us go like smoke crack on
a Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Hope. So so if like, so, I know Jesus is non judgmental,
But if you told if you were talking to Jesus, right, yeah,
and you were like, I have this deep compulsion. Something
about the air on this brisk Saturday afternoon is making
me want to smoke crack.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
What would he say?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Would he be like, what's a good friend say to that?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think if I could, in this moment be Jesus.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, please Lord, uh please be Jesus.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
I would say, maybe what's wrong?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Do you need help?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Do we need to have a conversation. We can go
somewhere and eat some food and talk about it. Crack
isn't the answer. Crack is whack, as Whitney would say. Yeah,
though her action, never mind, let's not talk about Whitney.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
My bad Whitney. Yeah, she was into crack.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
She was.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
You ever see that this isn't popp But if you
ever see someone on crack and they a little like, Okay,
here's the thing about crack is obviously we all know
that crack is a like is a long term bad play.
But if you're looking to have a phenomenal fit, if
you're gonna have a great life, you stay away from it.
I have an awesome ten minutes. Yeah, it looks like

(06:10):
it could be fun for those ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So I went to a Christian college who won't name it.
But I literally had a professor who we were talking
about like really old people that would come speak at
the college. And there's one guy who passed away like
in the last five years, who was like ninety eight
when he passed whoa and like around his ninety fifth

(06:32):
birthday that the university was celebrating. This professor was like
just in confidence with the students, said, you know, if
I was his age, you know, I'd wake up and
I'd try crack because.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Okay it yeah, you know, yeah, no, it's wait, is
that you though? Which so if you if you turn
ninety eight, are you gonna are you gonna do heroin?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
About trying heroin.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
I feel like by the time I get to ninety eight,
it's almost like a sense of I've seen so much
and I've done so many things.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Do I really want to try the heroine?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Maybe maybe the horse will be for me when I
turned ninety three?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
But oh rhyme, maybe the horse will be for me
when I turned ninety three. That sounds like something from
like a Bob Dylan song. Cannot confirm what So we
talked a little bit before you came on on camera.
You're not from New York, right, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
What do you do? What do you where are you from?
And what are you doing in town?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
So I am from San Antonio, Texas. Cool so very
much deep south central oh Texas, Praise God. But I
am here with this group and one of the things
that they want to do and encourage other artists to
do is be.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I would say, salt and light.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's very Jesus Bible centered, Bible dog whistle if you will,
But be Sultan light in their artists community wherever they're from.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
And how does like, logistically speaking, how does one be
Sultan light?

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah? So I would say it looks like being a
safe person to bring hard questions.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
To a safe person to bring hard questions too. Yeah, love,
I love that.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's great and a safe place to grieve, yeah, and
to mourn.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
I was talking to your bosom buddy over there, buddy,
Oh my god, we're angry doggo but and we just
talked about how you guys have been in the arts
communist community since you were small.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, me and from a from behind the camera, we've
we've been making movies together since at least twelve years
ago something like that twelve, thirteen, fifteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, so we've been we've been at it for a while.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
So what we were.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Talking about is I asked him if his experience of
the arts community theory or I keep mixing community and
ministry but we're gonna stick to community of arts was
positive or negative, because depending on the vein that you're
in and the place that you're in in that arts community,

(09:24):
it can be really detrimental, really poisonous almost. I'm a
musician by trade and training, and musicians can be really
harsh and mean. I think anytime there is a space
where you're asked and responsible for bringing a gift that

(09:45):
comes from inside of you, there's such an insecurity and
some people can turn towards to be frank, bullying and
putting people down to make themselves feel worthy for.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
The gift that been given.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, and I think my experience with arts ministry in
that space has been just communicating you are enough, like
this gift is beautiful, not because it's better than anybody else's,
but because it's a gift.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Let me ask you this question, what do you what's
your opinion? Okay, so you're familiar with the tortured artist trope, right,
and people, there's a lot of people out there who
their whole thing is they they have made a successful
career out of hating themselves into being better.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
And I look, I've I've fell victim to that.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I know a lot of people that's their modest OPERENDI
is like, if I keep hating myself and I keep
believing I'm not enough, I will that's gonna motivate me,
propel me for and like, look, undenial, you cannot deny
it as part.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Of the hero's journey.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
That has is part of the hero's journey. It has
resulted in a lot of great art. But you seem
as though you seem like a person who comes at
these things from a much more positive place. Yeah, and
how how how does what do you think about the
sort of tortured artist way of doing things? And and
and maybe somebody who's listening who does who tries to

(11:14):
hate themselves into submission? What would you say to them
about perhaps an alternative path?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I would say, You're loved and you're beautiful just
the way that you are. I would say that that
is absolutely normal. It is absolutely normal to experience self
deprecating thoughts to experience the deep and abiding insecurity that, yeah,

(11:38):
would cause you to hate your own experience because it hurts.
You're not crazy, Yeah, you're not so broken that you
won't find community. But I would say that from a
Jesus perspective, here it goes, here, it goes. That's not
what he wants, that's not why he gave you that gift.

(11:58):
He gave you the gift to enjoy and to be enjoyed.
And hopefully you find a community where that is your experience.
Even if you don't agree with Jesus as a whole
or Christianity.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I'll get it. Sure. Well here's well, here's the funny
thing is when you say, because like a lot of
these like tenants and values, even if you you know
you're an atheist and you don't necessarily believe in, like,
you know, a god or spirituality, you can sub it
in as like.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That is good advice.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, Like, even if you don't like believe in Jesus,
it is good advice to be like, hey, if you
have a talent, you have a thing you like doing,
it's okay to just enjoy doing it and enjoy the process.
And yeah, you know, fucking hate yourself. Yeah, you know,
because that's what whatever your idea of a higher power
that exists in the universe wants. Yeah, you know, like

(12:51):
even if you are the higher power, why would you
want to hate yourself? Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, Tabitha,
I have I have one find a question for you.
What do you think about bitcoin?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Where does it go?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
And uh? And uh will it matter in twenty years?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
All great questions that perhaps one day we will find
the answers to.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Tabitha. Thank you very much for for chatting.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Have a good rest of the day. Appreciate Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Do you want to plug anything? You can plug as
something if you want Jesus, plug Jesus. Where can we follow?
Somebody has the Jesus Instagram handle right like?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I have no idea? Is he honest?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Someone?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Dog is so cute. It's a cute dog. Sorry for
the audio listeners, they can't see this dog. It's a
precious it's it's it's covered in fluff, glitter, glitter. It's
a good dog. Golden but yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Thank you, Tabitha.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Here we can fiss, We can fist mom by Tabitha Bye.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
That was a great conversation.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
It is funny for those who listen on the podcast
because last we had a shout at Anthony, who I
still believe in by the way, I know we got
a lot of negative comments by Anthony. If you're watching this,
I still believe in you. But it is nice to
get some alternative perspectives on the same thing. All right,
let's keep talking to folks. What's what's your name, Doug, Eli?

(14:21):
How are you doing? Nice to meet you. What's uh?
What's what's uh? What's going on?

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Eli?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Has?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
What brings you to the park today?

Speaker 6 (14:28):
I don't know, Bro, I've just been here on a
trip and we just happened to cross by. I don't
even think we were supposed to be here. We just
happened to come back to regroup with everyone. Like you
can see behind the camera and.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
All that Oh people right, oh, who who who are
all these people? Who's the for the those listening on
audio or actually even on video, there's a group of
about uh, this is not forty this is about twenty
five people.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Who are who are these people? Who are these folks?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Friends? People that come to s with me? You know
people that I like, I spend a lot of time
with and all that.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
And my teachers, Oh your teacher?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
What what? What like level of school is this?

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Like tenth grade? It is like a charter school, right, yeah,
charter school?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Okay? And like so so you're so you're in tenth grade? Yeah, okay,
how's house tenth grade? What's going on in the high
school universe?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Pretty true? You know, you's got to worry about your
grades and all that. But and that's it's cool. It's cool.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
What do you have aspirations.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
For the future?

Speaker 6 (15:32):
What's an aspiration?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
And aspiration is like something you want to do, oh.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Like hopefully go to college and all that, you know, cool,
study for what I want to be in maybe like
finances or like things like that.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Do you want to make a lot of money?

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Oh yeah, yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
What do you What do you do you have like
a thing you want to buy more than anything else, or.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Like a BMW you really want to buy?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I buy a BMW?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
What about what would you what would you do if
you have like ten million dollars of your life quick?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
You know, first, I'd probably help on my people out.
I'm gonna be for real too nice, and then like
after that will obviously there's gonna be something left. So
I'm gonna worry about myself and just like preserve the
rest of the money and how to like stay with
the money, like more of it?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Cool? Yeah, okay, I have a question. You You have
a piece of paper in your hands. Oh yeah, can
I see what this piece of paper is? I'm gonna
read it. Oh, okay, this is pretty cool. Wanted for
good behavior.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
Like the one I'm like the third one right there?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh this is wait you're oh you're in this.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
This is a picture. What Okay?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
It says Washington Square wanted for good behavior?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
So that's you?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
You're wanted for good behavior?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
How did you? How did you? How did you get
to become wanted for good behavior? What kind of good
behavior have you've been?

Speaker 6 (16:45):
I don't know. I just try to be nicer to
like everyone around me whenever they talk to me and
all that.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's cool.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
You know, positive energy, it needs to be spreaded a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Has does anyone ever push your buttons?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Like?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
What?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like what does someone have to do to really get
to you?

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Annoy me? Bug me? It's up in my shoes.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm like that, okay, yeah, all right, well let's see
I guess Oh, I'm sure I saw all these people here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Why it's like noon, right, Why aren't you guys in class?

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Oh? This is a school field trip, like you know
that they took us here like an educational thing, like
a field lesson?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Do I have to give you a permission slip to
be on here?

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Do they have to?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Well? I don't.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't have that, so it's gonna have to.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
I was too late for that. I mean that, it's
pretty cool, you know. It's it's like the second one
I've really been on, because we did one last year.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
But where'd you go?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
You go to the Science Center.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
It was like an eighth grade and move into like
Houston and San Antonio. It was pretty cool, like this
and all cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Do you are you one of those people? It was
my final question for you. Are you one of those folks?
You're like, yeah, I'm vibing with high school?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Life's great?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Or are you are you like I can't wait to
get out of here and be like a real person.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Really really, it's which is like it depends on what
kind of mood them in Like sometimes I just I
just like where I'm at right now, and then sometimes
I just like worry about the future ahead you feel
me and like I just want to get to the
money really fast, you know. To me, it's like one
of the more important things in my life.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Get money into you into crypto.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Nah, I am like, I don't know how I do
know that. So like I'm not gonna do something I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know what I think based on what you just said,
you have a strong financial future ahead of you.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
So like, but do you like live here in New York?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, I live here.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Sometimes I'm here, sometimes I'm in various deserts, forests and
coal mountain slopes.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
So you travel, Yeah, I've traveled.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
It's like so it's like it's like this everywhere you go.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Uh what do you mean like this?

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Or like you just set up the on your like
bow yeaes up.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Chairs, chat with people, hang out.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's just nice to I swear in my life, I'm
just doing I don't know why I need to do
so much to just like I'm mainly just doing this
to get out of the house.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Like why you got like strict rules in your house
or like, what's what's a strict.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Rules in the house.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, no, it's just if I'm in the house for
too long, I start to I start to melt, you know,
I start to spiral, think about crazy shit. Dude, Yesterday
I was yesterday, I was just thinking I was. I
was in my house for too long. I started thinking
about it. I started wondering whether or not my dad
was real.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, every thinking about crazy stuff. I kind of
have that problem too, you know. You know, need you
like do something with your selfie for me?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, yeah, or else just start questioning reality. But listen,
I want you to right now about seventy I'm at
least seventy eight percent sure that this is all real
right now, And that's pretty good. And I appreciate you
sitting down and chat with me. What's your name one
more time? Eli, Eluys or anything else you want to
say to the people in the computer before we go.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
It's gonna be on TikTok and all that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Maybe I don't know, I might, I might not do it.
I might just I might never post this. No, I'm
probably gonna post it on as a podcast and stuff.
Why you want to just try and shut yourself out
or something.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
I just want to be on TikTok so like people
can see me. I'll be cool.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
You on YouTube?

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, YouTube, YouTube school too?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Like that cool?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
All right, all right, take care of your life.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
How's it going?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
What's up? What's your name?

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Trinity?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Trinity? It's a wonderful name. Trinity Rain. What's up, Trinity Rain?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
What Trinity Rain? I got a question for you. Okay,
what's one of the most persistent thought on your mind lately?
What have you been thinking about?

Speaker 7 (20:33):
If there's life on other planets?

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, and if they're aware of us, or if it
mimics what we do in our daily lives, if they're
just aliens and I don't know, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Have you come to any hypotheses conclusions on this.

Speaker 8 (20:47):
I do believe that there's life on other planets, but
I don't know if they're aware of us and they
just think we're so minimalistic they don't care to interact,
or if they also aren't aware and don't have the
means of reaching out to us.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was reading an article once and it said something
that kind of blew my mind.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
It was like, even if there is like life.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Like consciousness is like a spectrum, and so we aren't
like the final most conscious beings on earth, but and
we but we're on a spectrum, which means that like
we're more conscious than a chicken. Right, But there almost
inevitably exists something that's more conscious than us, but we

(21:25):
can't understand them anymore than like a chicken can understand
the context of our world. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Very crazy?

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (21:35):
What do you believe? Are you an atheist?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I don't know if I like, I don't know, I
don't know. I think I was like, yeah, we're just
all going on the ground and whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
There's too much that I've accepted.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
There's too much that I don't know to make a
claim of any kind. So I'm just gonna, you know,
be a gecko and m h run around. I'm just
gonna try to do my best on this whatever I'm
experiencing right now. But I was thinking, I was like, oh,
you know, we just go in the ground and that's it. Yeah,

(22:11):
but consciousness is a trip, it is, and there's got there.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was something more to it.
But there's also I was dead for most of a life,
and I'll be dead for most of eternity. But maybe
you know, the whole like and I'm going on such
a rant right now, but the whole like energy can't
be created or destroyed. So like maybe I don't know,

(22:31):
maybe I'll maybe I'll be a Maybe I'll be like
one of the trees at the Rainforest Cafe that talks,
you know, the one I'm talking about with the eyes.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
I think I'm thinking too small.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
I think there's maybe a whole other planet filled with
geckos who are waiting for you to come back home.
And that's where you departed from, oh Man, because I
questioned what made you want to be a gecko in
the first place?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Uh, well today, maybe want to be a gecko was
to have fun, get out of the house and chat
with folks and feel great. You know?

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Is that what you want your legacy to be? Essentially?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
You just I'm not obsessed with legacy because legacy is
like no one cares really about anyone or anything.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Even people who have legacy like Abraham.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
How many times a year do you think about Abraham Lincoln?

Speaker 8 (23:19):
I had a seventh grade teacher who made me memorize
like four scorn of years ago, the Gettysburg Address, the
getty Burg Address, and I had to perform in front
of the class, So you and that.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
But since that's subjective. Since then, how many times a
day do you think about Abraham Lincoln?

Speaker 7 (23:32):
Zero?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Zero? Nobody gives no, one really gives a shit about him.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
That's very true.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Everyone knows who he is vaguely, but nobody really. So
his legacy didn't I'm not gonna say Abraham Lincoln didn't matter.
He did some stuff, but like, you can't be thinking
too much about how people are gonna think about you
when you're gone, because ultimately, nobody's really thinking about you
at all. Ever, even if you're Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
Yeah, what are you gonna do? You're gone?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Gone?

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
What do you do here in New York?

Speaker 7 (23:58):
I'm studying film and television?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh, I studied film and television?

Speaker 7 (24:02):
Really film major?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah? Okay, yeah. Are you not to put a damper
on anything? But are you afraid of graduation?

Speaker 8 (24:10):
I guess so in a sense, yes, But I'd rather
do what I love, you know, than succumb to a
job that I hate clocking into every day, because I
feel like I would just end my shit.

Speaker 7 (24:19):
So I'd rather be happy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Struggling, what what do you want to do? What's your
dream film thing?

Speaker 8 (24:27):
Writing, directing, character driven dramas, things like that. But I
really like studying people, characters, things like that. I feel
like life imitates art. You know, you and yourself are
a character. You know, And I have a question for you.
Because break out from getting the green face paint all
the time?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
No, I break out from eating shitty. I break out
from having McDonald's every day. I don't break that makeup
is There's a lot of variables as to why I
might have acne, and I'm going to say that the
makeup is not part of it.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Not part of it.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Okay, Yeah, good to know, appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
What's uh, what's it like being at NYU?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Is there?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like, how's the community, how's the film scene?

Speaker 7 (25:08):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
I'm very grateful to even be there, especially because, like
I have a scholarship. But that does make me feel
like certain people I can't mesh with because they're in
a completely different tax.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
Bracket than me. So oh okay, I just like sitting
back and observing sometimes.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, do they make you watch because all right,
I went to a film school, and I had a
professor at film school who was I think he was
about ninety eight years old and still around. He was like, okay,
everyone watch, Uh, we're gonna watch Birth of a Nation

(25:42):
by something Griffith. I think, okay, And we're all sitting
there like, what the fuck are we paying tens of
thousands of dollars? Like what are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
And is it still like that? Is it still like
everyone's like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (25:58):
Certain times I remember vividly last semester we watched like
a three hour film in a foreign language with no subtitles,
and we were supposed to focus on the camera work,
but I just had this moment of like.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
What am I watching? Why am I here?

Speaker 10 (26:10):
You know?

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Would I be better somewhere else?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
You know? Are you?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Are you from New York?

Speaker 7 (26:15):
Would you guess that?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But vibe?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Do I give region?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'm gonna guess. I wouldn't be surprised if you. Oh wait,
you're wearing an NFL hat of some kind? Is that
the Broncos?

Speaker 7 (26:27):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I don't know? From Denver? Denver rocks Man. It was
a good time.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Yeah you've ever been?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, I've been I go to I've pretty much been
to Denver like four or five times. I've done like
some shows there. I've gone there just to hang out.
And I've probably talked about this on the podcast before,
but the first time I went to Denver, I stayed
at the most awesome Airbnb of all time.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
It was called Yeah, it was called Hostile Cush.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
And it's like if the guy who sold you weed
in high school turned his house into a hotel nice
and you're just like in a basement with a bunch
of people like smoking blunts inside.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
It's pretty awesome. Yeah, shout out Hostel Cush.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know if they're still around, but yeah, yeah,
what uh?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
What's what are you do?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
You miss Denver?

Speaker 7 (27:18):
No?

Speaker 8 (27:18):
No, no, I missed the mountains, but I feel like
I like New York a lot better. Yeah, there's more
for me here, I would say, but that's subjective.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, there's less isolation.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah, Yeah, there's more community here.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
I would say, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, you're making friends in college.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
Yeah, I'm trying to say yes and succeeding.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Have you met any enemies?

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Mmm?

Speaker 8 (27:39):
Maybe, I don't know if they would call me their enemy,
but there are some people who I'm like, Okay, you
were raised very differently than I will.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay, but have you felt like, have you felt the
presence of any shade?

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Have you felt as though the presence of shade?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Ye?

Speaker 7 (27:53):
Yes I have, Yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
And you know, like we're not naming names, we're not
getting specific, but what is it that makes you feel
a shade?

Speaker 8 (28:01):
I feel like people see me and they might assume
that I'm less competent than them because I'm in a
different tax bracket, or because I'm a girl, or because
you know, I'm black, And I feel like, I don't know.
I don't want to think too much into it, so
I try not to read into it. But I do
feel like some people like mansplain certain things to me
and they're.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
Like, well, yeah, the Matrix was a movie centered around
and I'm like, my name is Trinity. Like I've seen
the Matrix before, Like you.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Know, I saw the Western name meaning Trinity. I mean
I've never seen the Matrix. By the way, is there
a character in a name Trinity?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (28:30):
Okay, So a lot of film bros associate my name
with the Matrix and then they try to man explain
certain things to me.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
But I don't know. I don't take that is necessarily offensive.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
What's going on with the film bros?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Like?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Who?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Who are the film bros? These days?

Speaker 7 (28:44):
What's going on with the film bros? That's a great
question that I might want.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
What's their movie? Because I had a big I was
a film bro. I had a big poster of pulp
fiction in my uh, in my dorm room.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
So your descendants are still active today?

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And there are we still worshiping pulp fiction, Quentin, it's
the post They're still around. Yes, have you been in
a dorm room and seen pulp fiction posters? I have?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
That makes me as happy as it makes me sad.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Really, you're a pulp fiction fan.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I haven't seen it in a long time, but you know,
it's a good It was kind of fun to have
it be like my identity for a little bit.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
Yeah, Pulp Fiction, American Psycho fight Club. Those are the
top three film bro fanatic.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Do you do you fuck with those movies?

Speaker 7 (29:25):
I mean they're not.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
Bad, but I don't worship them. I don't have them
printed out on every side of my dorm room.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
To do you have a movie or a thing printed
out on every side of your dorm room.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
No, but I do like Sean Baker the Florida Project, Anora.
I like that sort of genre of filmmaking.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But cool, cool, all right, final final.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Thing, finally answer, what's do you have a movie in
the works? M if people? What's you had? Two named
Trinity Trinity Rain?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
So if people people are good?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
This is the first appearance of the of the to
be famous film director Trinity Rain.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
What uh what? What's?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
What's what's the what's the idea that people can be
excited to see you on the screen from you soon? Well?

Speaker 7 (30:13):
I write and direct.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
I really like, you know, character driven dramas, and I'm
just casting people all over from New York.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
You don't have to act.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
I love people who actually emit the character that I'm writing.
So sometimes I might make a film and write a
certain character into it. But I mean, am I okay
to plug my Instagram?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Go plug away, go crazy.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
Trin two like the number two cosmic trind to cosmic
on Instagram if you care. My page is not as
cool as the real geck go.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
You gotta get and I by the hold on, I'm
about to give really hypocritical advice Okay, I'm listening, but
you gotta get a less fucked up user name because
once you because once you start having to be like,
it's Trinity with uh, there's a period here, and there's
two and there's an underscore.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Mine is Lyle for I always have to go It's
Lyle forever.

Speaker 9 (30:56):
But the four is a four?

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yeah, you know, but throws them off a little bit.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Is Trinity Grace taken?

Speaker 8 (31:03):
I keep saying to get that today every variation is taken.
There's one girl who has Trinity Rain, but she hasn't
been active in like five ten years. So I wanted
to find her business email and be like, I will
cash at you just for the rights to that user name.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
She's gone. She's a ghost.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Hey what about Rain Wilson.

Speaker 7 (31:21):
Rain Wilson, Where does the Wilson come from?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Let you know, from the office?

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Ah? Maybe? But is that impostor?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Like?

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Am I impersonating? Would you think? Because that's not me?
I'm not Wilson. What do you think My last question
for you? What do you think my suld be?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
What I think your name should be? Trinity Rain Wilson.
I bet that's not taken. I bet that's not taken.
I bet Trinity Rain Wilson is not all right, so
you can follow her on Trinity tea Trinity but with
two's instead of the entities. Yes, or and if she's
not there, maybe she changed it to Trinity.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Rain will Wilson. I'll let you know.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Rain.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thank you very much by Trinity Raim of course.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Have a seat.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Hello, sir, have a seat, Have a seat. What is
your name?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
My name is Sava.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Sava. Yeah, what what's the origin of that?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
It's from Serbia. I'm from Serbia.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Oh cool?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Are were you born there? Uh?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
No, I was born in Florida. My parents are Serbian.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
O savak you a favorite hold it like a little
bit closer.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, and then I moved to Serbia when I was
nine years old.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
What's lifelike in Serbia?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Uh, It's really good. It's actually very peaceful. Right now,
we're having some problems with corruption. There's a lot of
protest going on, okay, but usually it's very nice.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Actually, so I guess coming from I'm curious about this,
Not to get into a bunch of shit, but I
am curious coming from a place that is having like
its own issues with like corruption and the government and
like protests and stuff. Do you look at America like
that's nothing, or do you look at America like, oh,
you guys, I see what's some shit's going down?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, I think there's shit going down here. I think
think the difference is here they do it somehow, like legally,
let's say, for example, lobbying. Yeah, it's like, you know,
a corporation sponsors a politician to push their agenda. Whereas
there it's like, you know, a guy pays the guy
under the table so he can illegally construct a building

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or something.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So we're doing the same thing that's going on in Serbia,
but we're doing it. We've created a system where it's legal.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
In a way. Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Brought you here to the States?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I came here for modeling and acting.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Modeling and acting, Yes, sir, Okay, that's pretty cool. What
how's the modeling industry?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's good, the modeling industry, it's it's interesting. Yeah, I
guess it varies from different perspectives. I would say that
I didn't really like if I could put it in
two ways, there's the guy who wanted to be or
girl who wanted to be a model, and then so
they take it very serious. And then there's also the
ones that got stopped on the street and kind of

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got into it, and then they don't take it as serious.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
And which one is you?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
The second one?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Second one? Okay, see one doesn't take it as serious.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I feel like you can see in the face, Like
you can see in the face of the model who's
the most serious. Because if someone's doing like a real
serious model face, like they're opposing for Vogue or whatever. Yeah,
but like if someone like like I was in Target
and the people wearing those clothes they're just laughing, you
can tell they're having a good time. I know it's

(34:30):
posed that way, but I do still believe that they're
just they just were having a good time when they
were smiling and laughing.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah. Yeah, my target pay is probably much higher than
those high fashioned brands pay. Surprisingly.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
What kind of who? What kind of like clients have
you modeled for?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I've modeled for a few. I'd say the one that
I take the most pride in would be Polo. Ralph
Lourenzo a model for Polo. Yeah, did they give you
free shit? Everybody asked that no free underwear? Because I
came in boxers, and they were like, you know, you
can't be wearing random boxers. So they give you, like,
you know, polo underwear. But no, but the people who

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do work for them get a fifty percent discount. But
but I technically am like a free lance so I
technically don't.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
So what's your hinge look like? Does a crash your
phone every time you open it?

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Actually I haven't had hinge in a long time. I'm
going to show you something I think you'll like this. Okay, please,
this is my phone you have a clan.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
For for those on audio this this guy is a
bedazzled flip phone. Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Holy shit?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And that's what you've been rocking with. That's what I've
been rocking with, the bedazzle flip phone.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I think it's about four months now. I do. I
don't want to, you know, say I don't have I
do have an Android phone at home when I need
to use Instagram and stuff like that, I still have it.
But this is what I carry around for my everyday use. Wow.
And yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
So what made you decide to downgrade or get a
second pune?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I think, uh, the main thing was was actually a
little bit of nostalgia because when I was younger in Serbia,
I had a Nokia and I also been dazzled it,
and I just kind of missed that era of when
I was, when I was a kid and I didn't
really care about about you know, those certain things. Yeah,
and so I decided to go back to it. This
one though, it has touch screen, it has Google Maps.

(36:25):
What's up? An email? So I can still get my
work done without you know, having to use a smartphone.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
That one has Google Maps.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It does?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's that seems so annoying to use Google Map. Yeah,
it's type on it? Is it like you actually have
to hit like one two three?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
You can do one two three. But it's touch screen
as well, so you can you can do like the
little keypad on the touch screen.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
But no Instagram, porn, no redit.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Well you could probably watch porn on it, but it
has Google but I personally don't watch porn on on
my flip phone.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Good for you, now, what how do you you do
you feel because a lot of people they have the fear,
myself included of like, okay, if I'm not carrying around
my phone with me at all times, how am I
going to be connected to the world.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
How do you But okay, so you have a skateboard, right?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Are you so you're a skater, sir?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Is the skate world just like if I show up
to this physical location, I know that there will be
friends and people like that.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
That is kind of exactly what it's what it's like,
you know, shout out to skateboarding because wherever I've traveled
in the world, if I brought my skateboard with me,
I was able to meet a local person. I was
able to be introduced to the culture, to the cool spots.
And I think if I didn't have a skateboard, it
would be harder to integrate into certain, you know, places

(37:45):
when I visited them.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So that's what you need.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Everyone needs their metaphorical skateboard.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
You know that can kind of connect you wherever you
go because whenever you're like, hobby is it's cool because
it's I mean, most hobbies are kind of represented around
the world, whether it's like fucking, you know, kickball or whatever,
and you kind of find your way to pick your
spots in it. What how long you've been skating for

(38:12):
about eight years? How have you fucked You're gotten fucked up?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I've gotten fucked up. Thank god, I haven't broken anything,
but but yeah, I mean every single time I go out,
I get a little fucked up. The worst thing so
far I've got fucked up is my back. Yeah it's
still a little bit fucked up now, but yeah, only
only like twisted ankles where I'm out for like two
months and stuff like that. But surprisingly it it's kind

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of nice. You know. It's when you fall, it's it's
it's hard to explain it, but sometimes you're just so
full of shit and you go out on your skateboard
and it beats you up and it kind of puts
you back in your place.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah. Yeah, have you've had that part where you're like,
I'm gonna do everyone watch this, I'm gonna do a
backflip and your skateboards like nope.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah. Yeah. Usually it's when I see a group of
cute girls, for example, and then and then it's I
won't even try anything crazy, but you know, karma or
whatever you want to call it just just kicks in
and then you just spill right in front of them
and then kind of get a little embarrassed and put
in your place.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, how's your dating life in New York.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, it's not that good.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
No, are you, like, are you going on dates or anything?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, I've been on it. Actually I was supposed to
go on a date two days ago. It was a
very nice date. We planned to go to the Botanical gardens, Wow,
which are beautiful. I met the girl here in Washington
Square Park and last minute she did this weird thing.
She sent me a message. She said, let's play a

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game with the universe. Are you ready for this? Play
a game with the universe. We're not going to go
on the date tomorrow, but if we see each other
again in the streets, then it's meant to be. And
I was, you know, I tried to take it like
like she was trying to be cool, but then somebody
told me no, she just didn't know how to like

(40:03):
say no, so she she used that excuse. I don't
know which one it is.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
That's that's an awesome line. Yeah, let's play a game
with the universe. If we see each other again, it's
meant to be.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, but she's gonna get fucked because what if she
sees you again? Yeah, let's play another another game. We
see each other a third time?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, and I'm wearing a pink.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Hat, and I happen to be wearing a pink hat, and.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Then it's meant to be. Yeah, I don't know. But
then my friend he told me, he said, you should
value yourself and not really let it get to And
then he came last minute, he clocked out of his job.
Shout out, rafa. He clocked out of his job and
came with me to the botanical gardens. So I didn't
go alone because I bought the tickets and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So wow, you got, you got, dude. The scre is
he's a skater, skater, skate community. It seems like it
looks out for each other.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
We do, We try to, you know, I mean, as
in every community. Sometimes you know, you get you get
a douchebag here and there, but but mostly we're cool
guys who kind of you know, you know. There's it's nice.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
It's nice.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
So I'll ask you a couple more questions before you
get out of here. What's your what's your dream in life?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
What do you want to do with yourself?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well, actually I was listening to the last girl. I
also want to do writing and and make a movie.
It's kind of my dream let's just say, make one movie.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
One movie. Yeah, they're actually are you familiar with the movie?
A serbian film?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Oh my god, don't ever watch that. Don't ever watch
that movie. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, you can make.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
A serbian film too, and it's just people hugging.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
For an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
That's a that's a really good idea actually, because you know,
if you can imagine the opposite of people hugging for
an hour and a half, that's kind of a good
way to explain the.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Opposite of people hugging for an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Well, yeah, in the worst type of a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
not a good not a good movie at all.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
But but yeah, nice man.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, uh, let's see from how long have we been
going for? Forty two?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Okay, you got a time limit on this.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
No, I'm trying to get to an hour, I would say, okay, yeah,
I feel like I have more things I want to
ask you.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
How about mom against marijuana? Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, a mom a mom against marijuana.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Are you a weed guy?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
You know, I smoke weed. Lately, I haven't been smoking
as much because and this is a shared experience with
a lot of people that I've heard is at one
point it stopped making them feel giggly and happy and
it started making them feel like paranoid and anxious. Oh yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
You haven't gotten there yet.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
No. I did get there, which is why I took
it down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
But for example, when it comes to things like writing, yeah,
I feel like it helps me sometimes real though, so
I'll like, I'm more of a when I get home
and I'm alone, I'll smoke a spliff and it helps you. Yeah.
Sometimes that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
When I was in high school and college and still
a little bit now, I had because you see, like
Seth Rogen and like Snoop Dogg and Kevin Smith and
all these guys who and you have this thought in
your head that's so dumb, where you're like, I'm going
to get high and then I will magically and then
because I got high, I will magically, effortless, effortlessly create

(43:12):
something awesome.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Then you realize it doesn't it doesn't, yeah, And then
you get high, you get anxious yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah yeah, or you know it's up there somewhere, but
you can't write it out because you're just so high.
It's just like you know, yeah, but it works, it works,
it works. It works for me. It's more of a
like to get that idea, where then when I actually
want to get down and write, it's more like in
the morning, drink of coffee and write it. But but
for the idea, I like to get high your ear.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Get high and model or you like, wy are my
thumbs lately?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
No, When I was when I was younger, I would
when I first got into it, I would smoke, like
on the lunch break, I'd smoke a little split. But
then again then it didn't hit me like that. Then
it would just be like, you know, I would just
kind of be there. It wasn't that bad. Now, I
feel like if I were to get high at a job,
I would definitely be like, you know, does this guy
know I'm high? Am I doing something wrong? You know

(44:07):
what I mean? I'd be way up in my head
and it wouldn't be good at all.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Where can the people? Where can the people find you?
Do you want the people to find you?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah? I guess you can find me. My name is
Sava s A v A. My last my last name
is kind of hard Suvacharov s u v A c
A r O V and that's my Instagram, my modeling instagram.
But yeah, I mean, if you want to find me,
you can. But I'm trying to actually do a transition

(44:37):
to to writing and acting. So if you need an actor,
you can find me. If you need a model, maybe
you can find someone else.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Well, well, what's your name?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
What's your name?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I'm Lyle Lyle all right?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Oh yeah, you said it when you said your Instagram name.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You just said your name and I asked you I
have I have pretty bad short term memory.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
You think it's from smoking weed?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Probably? Yea, you ever did mushrooms before?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, but I'm trying to I'm trying to be just
a coffee guy now. Yeah, coffee and uh Reese's cups.
But that's it for me. Nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Have a good rest of your entire life.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Brother, you too.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Let's see who wants to talk? Come sit down here,
you have a seat you The people couldn't hear it,
but she just said, oh my god, this is so fancy.

Speaker 10 (45:43):
I mean, I wasn't expecting like a whole setup.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
This is not I'm if if this is your I
gotta say, if this is your, like, what's the word,
what's the barometer for a fancy then you're gonna have
an awesome life. You're you're easy to make happy, it
would seem I appreciate that. What's your name, I'm Hannah,
Hannah Lyleice to meet you. What's what's uh? What's the

(46:10):
worst thing in the world right now? You think? What's
what's horrible? What's horrible?

Speaker 7 (46:18):
I don't want to actually talk about it?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Okay, all right, all right?

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Probably politics?

Speaker 8 (46:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Sure, sure, yeah, what's uh? What's going on with you?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Hannah?

Speaker 10 (46:28):
I have a lot of mid terms this week, so
I'm I'm I'm drowning in work.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, you don't have to do it?

Speaker 7 (46:35):
What midterms?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
I mean, you're right, I don't. I don't have to
do anything.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
You don't have to do You don't have to do anything. Yeah,
you can just let you know. What I've always wondered
is like, all right, you see like that spot over
there about like sometimes I'll do that, but be like,
how long could I just stand there before I'm physically removed?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
And then where are they going to.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Physically How like if you decide to stiffen up, right,
like eventually the police will come to move you or whatever,
But then wherever they move you.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
What if you just stiffen up there?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Like, how how long can you actually literally not do anything?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I guess eventually you starve to death.

Speaker 7 (47:12):
But I guess so.

Speaker 10 (47:14):
But I guess that's what I'm kind of trying right
now here, sitting with you instead of studying.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
So what what do you study?

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Economics?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Okay? Are we fucked like from your like from like
a text book and analysis? Because I've never read an
economics textbook.

Speaker 10 (47:32):
Maybe in the like next decade, i'd say, I'm not
gonna lie, I'm not I'm a sophomore.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I don't know what. Okay, you think we're fucked for
the next decade, but after that we'll be Okay, I'll
keep I'll.

Speaker 10 (47:44):
Keep a pull, and I'm gonna i'll keep track of.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
What's going on into tariffs should we do tariffs?

Speaker 7 (47:50):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (47:51):
I heard that's a political tactic for Do you listen
to the Daily?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
No, you should listen to the it's a political tactic. Yeah, okay,
so he so he's got a strategy.

Speaker 10 (48:01):
Yeah, it's like I mean, it's like economics.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Sorright, So he's not just he's not just doing random
ship you think he's got like a plan.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
Well wait, I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure,
but I listened to a good daily podcast about it.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Okay, yeah, that's cool. We can just repeat what was
going on on that podcast. I'm gonna spread misinformation, so
that's okay. Look, this is the perfect podcast to spread
misinformation on because anyone who takes any information from this
show and then goes out and it's like I learned
what tariffs are from the Talking Gecko Show, It's like.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
All right, well you fucked yourself.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Anyway, I really don't.

Speaker 10 (48:39):
I don't want to be the one to give the
false information.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
What do you do with your time away from the economics?

Speaker 7 (48:49):
You know? I actually came out here to journal.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, your journal a lot like I.

Speaker 10 (48:55):
Just started, and I'm getting into like pilates Okay, like
everyone's doing that.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I guess what what do you? What do you plan
to journal about today?

Speaker 10 (49:06):
Probably how stressed I am about my test coming up? Okay,
but this is a good this is a good outlet too,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Okay, alternative Okay, what uh? I'm also avid journaler. I've
been journaling for like eight years. I got like eight
years of journals and here's the problem with journals is
it journals call you out in a very specific way,
because what's gonna is is, if you journal long enough,
something very scary happens. Okay, so well, okay, Well it's

(49:34):
a double edged sord. It's a double unch sword because
you'll read a journal from five years ago, okay, and
and it's a double edged sword. You'll be like, oh,
this thing that I was dealing, like you were stressed
out about midterms, right, and then five years later you're like,
I was stressed out about midterms. My life. My problems
are way worse now, you know what I mean, Like
I I can't even believe that this thing. But then

(49:57):
that's kind of good because now you understand the pattern
of like, whatever I'm stressed out about now, five years
from then, I won't even give a shit about. But
here's where it's bad is you'll be like, Okay, five
years ago, you'll say to yourself like I want to
change these things about my life. And if you're.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It'll call you out because you'll be like.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
You'll look back and be like, oh crap, I still
have these issues from five years ago. Some of them linger,
but some of them will change and go away. But
it's good to have some documentation of what was bothering
you or what you wanted at some point in your
life and then compare it to your life now.

Speaker 10 (50:38):
I also think it it's a I think overall it's
a positive thing. It's a positive thing, and like when
you look back on it, it's like, oh, it gives
you more ease because you'll know that, like whatever you're
going through later, like oh, this is not going to
be as significant to me the next year or something, right, right, right,
So I don't know. I have to try it out

(50:58):
and I'll wait five years and see if that works.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (51:02):
Nothing has happened yet, so i'll try.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
I'll try. I'll try to do that to journal.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
But yeah, all right, so our tariffs good or bad?

Speaker 2 (51:10):
This is gonna be on the test.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
Can I give a no answer?

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Please?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Could you give a no no answer? Okay, you plead
the fifth.

Speaker 10 (51:18):
I'm afraid I'm gonna say something wrong.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, I could say the tariffs are good, the tariffs
are bad. And then but there's plausible deniability. Yeah, because
if someone I guess, there's plausible deniability because nothing, nothing's
real or matters.

Speaker 10 (51:36):
Wow, well I think that for me at least, like
when I go on social media and I see like
a lot of things spread and in my classes and
stuff we all learned about how like oh, you shouldn't
listen to these podcasts and you shouldn't read.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
This on the news, and you shouldn't do this.

Speaker 10 (51:53):
So like it makes it like really scary to like
say what you want to say, because then it's like
I don't want to tribute to someone else thinking something
wrong because of my misconception of something I don't really
know about.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
But I think that isn't that like life? Isn't that
how we come to a content. Everyone just says stuff
and we kind of vote on what reality is.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
It's kind of a vote, right, Like.

Speaker 10 (52:18):
You can say, like you, I feel like you have
to do like some sort of like research or like
fact checking before you.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Facts.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Facts are a vote in a sense, right, Like, Okay,
we like it's a fact. I'm pretty sure I just
ranted about this on on on the last podcast I
put out, but I I'm gonna do it again, Like
the sky is blue? Right, Okay, but how did that
become a fact?

Speaker 3 (52:42):
It was?

Speaker 2 (52:43):
It was kind of democratically decided and then grandfathered into
everyone's minds through through brainwashing that the sky is blue.

Speaker 10 (52:54):
Okay, But then that causes some loopholks, and you're like, okay,
it's blue is blue?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Who who decided blue was blue?

Speaker 10 (53:03):
What about like the color like the word, the phonetic
whatever pronunciation of blue?

Speaker 7 (53:07):
Like who said that?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
And I could sit here, Oh yeah, I was arguing
with the guy about truth, and I could sit here,
and I could say the sky is green, and I
have I have a vote. You know, I that is
my vote. It's not my vote. I'll I'll go ahead
and concede, or actually I'll abstain. I don't really give
a fuck what color the sky is. But if my
vote is that the sky is green, that's still my vote.

(53:28):
I'm I'm vastly outvoted by by textbooks, by society, by
the common consensus, but I still get a vote. It's
still a democratic process.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
I guess you're right.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
My vote just.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, Right.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
It's not.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
It's just gonna be.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
No one's gonna agree with you, right, no one's gonna
agree with me. But I still get my vote. In
my own reality, because reality is I guess, the sum
total of everyone's subjective idea of it sort of right.

Speaker 10 (53:56):
Yeah, I mean you're right, just and then but and
it's like if you think like that, then it's like, okay,
so what's the fact and what's what's not a fact?

Speaker 7 (54:04):
Is fact the real truth?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You shouldn't think about it too much. You should just
kind of dude, yesterday, this doesn't mean anything. But I
had to say is yesterday I went in to a
I went to Target, and I was like, and I
asked the guy at the store if he knew where
something was, and I was like, I am. I am
so deeply entrenched in reality right now, and it feels awesome.

(54:29):
So you should do stuff like that instead of wondering
what color the sky is?

Speaker 7 (54:33):
You know, sorry, how did that relate to the color
of the sky.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Because it's like you could sit around questioning reality and
wondering what color the sky is, or you can, like,
or you can go to a store and ask someone
where the where bottled water is and then go home
and do dishes and then call your friend and tell
them about a television show that you saw, and you

(54:57):
can just just accept just like keep acceptance of whatever
life is, and without thinking about it, you'll have a
way better time.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I guess that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
I agree with that. I feel like I would do that.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
What's your name again, Hannah?

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Hannah?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Hannah's anything else you wants to the people of the
computer before we.

Speaker 10 (55:16):
Go, No, I just want to ask you how you
got into this?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Uh today, I got into this. Bye, just on the suit.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, by putting on the suit, coming out here and
setting up microphones and stuff. Nice. Thanks for talking to
a gecko Hanks. Thanks see you around the universe.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Bye, Hannah. Hi, what is your name?

Speaker 9 (55:37):
My name is Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Scott.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Nice to meet you.

Speaker 9 (55:40):
Nice to meet you.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
You're uh, you look very clean.

Speaker 9 (55:44):
Thank you. Yeah. I try to, I don't know, try
to dress a nice.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
How often do you do laundry?

Speaker 9 (55:50):
I do laundry, like I guess, like once every six days.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Probably laundry once every six days.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
Well it's like I just have the one hamper and
it's like once it gets like reasonably full, just throw
the laundry in. Just do it like one load at
a time.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
God.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That's I was just talking about being in reality and
not wondering what the sky was and you, I'm that's
doing laundry six days a week is deep in in
reality and I have so much respect for that, and
that's awesome, and I think I'm doing my best.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
I think I disagree listening in on your on your
take about facts. I think I disagree with your take
about the facts.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
And you know what, you know what, that's your vote
to disagree.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Well, this is why you can't disagree, because your disagreement
is a vote.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Well, I think I agree with why vote? Okay, go ahead,
go ahead?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
What's your name?

Speaker 9 (56:41):
My name is Scott.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Scott. Okay.

Speaker 9 (56:42):
I think there's a difference between facts that like are
have like a foundation in human experience. Yeah, there can
be like a disagreement on like how often is the
And I guess that's even getting into opinion. But like
if you're asking, like you know, the fact of like
will styrofoam dissolve in like a certain acid? You can,
you can vote no, but your vote isn't gonna change

(57:06):
the syrophoam.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yeah you can.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
You can sit there and watch it and sure, but.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
I can, but what is styrofoam?

Speaker 9 (57:13):
Well, I mean I guess, yeah, you can get into
this the you know, you can be pedantic about what
counts as styrophoam. Yeah, sure, if we can agree on
like a constraint of like what the chemical compound of styrofoam.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Is, Okay, okay, acid? So you're this is hilarious that
we're gonna I don't what I'm having. I'm having fun
having I'm having fun being an insane person right now.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
What.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So, yes, you're correct, It doesn't change the reality that
skyrofoam does dissolve an acid. But what if everyone just
said it didn't, Well, then who It's like the tree
a tree falls in a forest, no one's around to
hear it.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Does the tree still fall?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (57:52):
And I mean everybody can say that, but that still
won't change. Like I think there is like an objective
reality side of us, where like even if everybody says
that it won't, when they drop the styrofoam cup in,
it's still going to disappear.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I still vote that it won I still I still
I still believe that ignorance is a powerful serum that
you can really really really you know all right, you're right, well,
and you're right you know what you you know what
you're doing right now? Is your lobbying you're lobby or no,
you're not living, you're not loving.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I'm sorry, that's the wrong way. You're campaigning campaigning.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
You're campaigning that styrofoam will dissolve an acid, and you're
doing it very successful well.

Speaker 9 (58:35):
And I think the problem is that's a very easy
thing to test and to verify, whereas most facts are
not easy to take.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
So testing and would you testing and verifying is also
it's a form of campaigning.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
For the truth. It's true what you believe to be true.

Speaker 9 (58:53):
Well, and it's less like campaigning for what you believe.
But I think it's you know, more useful too, especially
for like the scientific method. It's it's a campaign and
more just like a form of discovery, is like because
you can campaign on like some you know, truths that
are a lot more you know, very difficult or impossible
to test.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
But what do you what do you do outside of
what do you what do you.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Do with your life? Scott?

Speaker 9 (59:17):
I am in law school?

Speaker 2 (59:18):
You're in law school?

Speaker 9 (59:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Okay, so this is your bread and butter is arguing
facts and truth?

Speaker 9 (59:22):
It sure is?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
And what's uh? Are you in law school at NYU? I?
Sure am grad or undergrad?

Speaker 9 (59:26):
Oh grid, Oh cool, yeah, what what's what's what's that like?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (59:31):
It's fun, it's a it sure is a lot of work. Yeah,
it's a yeah. I you know, I you go to
undergrad and you think you work hard, and then you
go to law school and you're like, wow, okay, now
I know what working hardly?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
What do you do for fun? When that when the
books are away and you're.

Speaker 9 (59:45):
I come out here. I love this park. It's great,
but it's an amazing park. I love that there's just
like jazz. I can come out and listen whenever I want.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah. Now law is an interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I hate that I'm going back to this, but I
it's just this is where I'm being to law, is
it now? Law is much more subjective? Oh yeah right?

Speaker 9 (01:00:05):
Oh yeah, Like I like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I could argue that murder should be legal. Yeah, and
that's my vote. Oh yeah, you know, but there's and
there's no objective it's not there's no objective fact as
to whether or not murder is wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:00:18):
Yeah. Well, and you can even argue, like you can
look at a statute and you can essentially argue that
that statute says whatever you want it to say, yeah,
and courts will try to be like, yeah, we're starting
with the text. But even if like even somebody who's
saying like, oh yeah, this is based in the text, yeah,
a lot of the time it's they're arguing what they
want the text.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Does that make you feel uncomfortable? Like, all right, you know,
here's the thing I was I'm mainly trolling when I'm
having when I'm saying that reality is, I'm I'm fifty
percent trolling when I say that reality is. Uh, trolling
doesn't mean I don't believe, but whatever, you know what,
I'm sorry say yeah, But doesn't it make you a
little uncomfortable to know that like laws and these institutions

(01:01:01):
or whatever, there's no like glue. Uh, there's no glue
to them in the same way that there's dependable glue
to the fact that styrofoam will melt? An ask, does
that make you uncomfortable? Census it's scary because yeah, it's fragile.
It's like, yeah, it's it is people. It's just ideas.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
Yeah, yeah, we've I think we as people are pretty
good at maintaining these institutions and these ideas. In a
lot of situations. But I mean we can see now
like these things are fragile.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, if you can just what if it wasn't your
way to becoming the president?

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
Yeah? Yeah, the yeah, the administrative state is a fun
thing to be watching at the moment, particularly fragile.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
But what do you do when you're not well? So
you you just you come to the park.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
Do you have I like to sing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
You like to sing?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
What do you say?

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
I'm in like the law school a cappella group, which
is like an undergrad a cappella group. But you know,
we don't have the time that the undergrad groups do.
We do our best.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Do you read a lot of books?

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
I read some books. I'm reading House of Leaves at
the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Why do I know what that is? What is that about?

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
It's like a haunted house book kind of. It's also
like a satire on academia. It's insane to try to
read it. There's footnotes and footnotes and footnotes. There's text
in all going in all different directions at certain points.
It's a it's a journey, but it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Have you ever gone insane or do you feel like
you've been pretty attached to reality?

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
I think I've been pretty attached to reality.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
What do you think? What do you think there?

Speaker 9 (01:02:43):
I I think I've just been lucky. I think in
a lot of cases, sure, not a lot, like really
horrible has happened to me, which I feel like, you know,
just just luck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Nothing horrible has ever happened to you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:02:55):
Nothing, nothing real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Do you ever feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I I've I'm not well. Do you ever feel like
if something horrible has ever happened to you? You ever
just like you ever like that in and of itself,
You're kind of like, I'm waiting for.

Speaker 9 (01:03:11):
The shoe to drive hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I'm waiting for this because well, in New York City,
you walk around and every day you see people who
are like, horrible things have clearly happened to this person.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, why am I? Why not? Why are they happening
to this person and not me?

Speaker 9 (01:03:28):
Yeah? Oh yeah, I feel that way all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
And you're like, what you gotta It's like uh, and
part of you, like part of your brain goes like,
I'm not getting out of this alive. I'm not getting
out of this. Nobody gets out of this perfectly. So
you're a little bit waiting for the shoot to drop.

Speaker 9 (01:03:44):
Oh, yeah, it's it's gonna be something at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yeah, what are you thinking that you're gonna get robbed,
You're gonna get back?

Speaker 9 (01:03:50):
What do I think it's gonna be. No, I think
it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Like you would.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I feel like you would make a great like isis hostage?

Speaker 9 (01:03:59):
I I yeah, I feel like I've had I've had
nightmares about like getting kidnapped, and it's always very amicable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Like it's like you convinced that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
It's always like it's.

Speaker 9 (01:04:13):
Like we're just like we just kind of like having
a conversation in the back of the truck as we're
like they're taking me to the location, but we're just talking.
It's it's yeah, it's it's amicable in the sense of
like I'm not like happy with where I'm at, but
it's also like I'm not like screaming, crying, They're not
beating me up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Like it's just.

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
I think that's probably how it would go down. I
think I like i'd be I'd be nervous, but at
a certain point, like once I've accepted that there's nothing
I can do to get out of the situation, it's like, well,
I mean I'm I don't know what they're doing with me,
but I guess I'll just chat with them. Yeah, I
gotta make the best of the situation that I'm in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
We all have that fan We all have that fantasy
of like, if I were like being held at gunpoint,
I could just look at the guy and be like,
hey man, what's this really about? Oh yeah, we all.
I totally have that fantasy that like I could. I
used to have a fantasy where like, uh, I would
be someone would like help me at gunpoint, right, and

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to get out of it, I would just take off
all my clothes and start spinning around and going ah.
And then they would be like this, this this, this
guy is crazy. Let's just go yeah. No, you don't
know if that's how that would go down, though.

Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
I also have that instinct of like, yeah, I just
have to out crazy. Whoever is like trying to mug
me on that cold Could you could you really do that?
I think I probably could.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, yeah, what would you do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
How would you go crazy?

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
I think, well, yeah, I'd probably just start moving weird.
I'd be making bird noises, I'd be getting up in
their face.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Okay, yeah, but like fight, because the fight or flight response,
you feel like you could do that.

Speaker 9 (01:05:53):
That's the thing I think because this has kind of
happened to me. It was one time I was I
was in a Walmart waiting for like an oil change,
and I realized that I was being followed around by
this guy like he'd been following me around the store
for like fifteen minutes. I just started walking in circles
and realized that he was following me. Yeah, And I
was thinking in my head the whole time, like what
am I? What am I gonna do to this guy?

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And I went out to like a one of the
like wider like open areas with more people, okay, And
as I was thinking about it, he eventually walked away
and I was like, okay, is he gone? And then
he walked away and he was okay. But I was
getting I was I was coming up with a plant.
I had the wherewithal. I was horrified, but I had
the wherewithal to be like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
What, wow, Okay, this guy was fun. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
How long maybe you guys just both like Dorito's how
do you know that he was? This was This was.

Speaker 9 (01:06:38):
Fifteen minutes of me walking in a circle and him
being like about as close as we are now behind me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Why did you talk?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Here's the thing. It's like you're telling me if you
were a kidnapp isis you talked to that? Why don't
you talk to this guy? Like like you had no
instinct to turn around and be like, well, man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
I didn't.

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
I didn't want to be like, hey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I was at least turn around, yeah, make a friend.

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
He didn't. He didn't look like a friend to me.
He was kind of heirs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, talk to him.

Speaker 9 (01:07:09):
But also, if somebody's gonna like follow me around in
a Walmart real close, I'm like, Chris Man wants to Like,
this man's trying to take me. I'm pretty small, but like,
I don't know. I was like, if I'm gonna if
I'm gonna do something, it's gotta This needs to be
a defense mechanism.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
There's a little bit of relief to being taken. Don't
you think you don't have to make decisions anymore? That's true?

Speaker 9 (01:07:30):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I would have.

Speaker 9 (01:07:31):
I would have in a sense, fewer problems in quantity.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, you weirdly, you weirdly have fewer problems in they It.

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
Might be a bigger problem but it is certainly fewer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yeah, well, I hope you don't get kidnapped by isis.

Speaker 9 (01:07:48):
I hope I don't get kidnapped by I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
That you die at a very old age. Me too,
as a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
As a lawyer, and I kind of I I my
gut ain't worth much, but I I just I really
think that you will continue to live a life where
nothing horrible happens to you. I'm out now, but we'll see.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
As I'm walking over, I'll just get like, I don't know,
like ten birds are gonna poop on me at the
same time, and that'll be the That'll be the love.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
If that's the most horrible thing that ever happens to
you in your life, that I will take that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:18):
I'll take that right now if that's if that's the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Got anything else gonna say to the people of the
computer before we go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:08:26):
Enjoy yourself, have a good time, go outside.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Scott, Thank you, Scott. Yeah, I'll see you, Uh the sport.
I don't know why I said that's that? Wasn't that funny?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Bye? Scott? Hi there, what is your name?

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Anna?

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Anna?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
What's up? How's it going.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I like your hat, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
I like your gi look.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Thanks Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
What's uh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
What's been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Ooh oh?

Speaker 11 (01:08:56):
I just so I am in school right now and
I just left the closet about sex, gender and justice. Okay,
So I've been reading a lot about intersectional feminist theory.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
So I've been thinking a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Lot about that. Okay, exciting stuff. What's the what's all right? Intersexual? Intersexual?
Say that again?

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
Intersectional feminist?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Intersectional gender feminist? What's the main idea? Give us the gist.

Speaker 11 (01:09:18):
It's kind of looking at like structures of power that
have been historically been put in place and how they
benefit men, like the patriarchy or like supremacy. So the
intersectional side of it is looking at like raised gender,
like class, and the feminist side of it is bringing
more like acknowledgment to like the position of subjugation that
like women, and the idea like how we even understand

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and define what woman is has been developed in society.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Sure, Sure, and that's that is the thing. Like there's
it's an open idea of like what is a woman?
Which it kind of goes I don't know if you
listen to me rant, but sometimes it is I was.
I was just ranting about reality. No, no, I was
just ranting about reality being a democracy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, I got that idea.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
I agree it goes because like what what's the roll
of paper towels? You know, exactly whatever whatever we assigned
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
It's so yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Some people are like, uh, facts are facts and fucking
styrofoam dissolves in acid, and uh, but I don't know.
I don't know. Ship what do you? What do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
What do you? What do you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Is this what you study?

Speaker 10 (01:10:27):
So?

Speaker 11 (01:10:27):
I did be here real neuroscience and anthropology before, and
I'm doing forensic psychology.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Now, okay, what's going on in forensic psychology.

Speaker 11 (01:10:35):
I'm very interested in kind of like how intersects with
culture and how we define like what is considered abnormal behavior,
what is considered criminal behavior, and how just subjective of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
This we were. I was just talking about whether or
not murders should be legal.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That's this question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Do you think it should be legal?

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
In what sense?

Speaker 11 (01:10:53):
I feel like everything is very contact dependent and I
feel like some people define abortion.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I would disagree with that, all right, you see that
you see that guy over there. If I shouldn't a point,
I should not have pointed at a specific person. If
I but like, if I pointed at a guy and
I was like, I don't like that guy, I'm gonna
go kill him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Like, you shouldn't be able to do that.

Speaker 11 (01:11:12):
I don't think so, because you can just walk away.
You cannot interact with that guy without having to kill him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Wait, that's why I feel like you shouldn't be able
to do it, because it's he's I mean, this guy
seems like a nice guy. I don't want to kill him.
He looks really nice, smile, and I don't feel bad
that I pointed at him and said, but it's not true.
I don't want to kill him. But what I But
if I did, I should go to jail. Right If
I kill a guy, I think you.

Speaker 11 (01:11:35):
Probably should go through some transformative justice process more than jail,
because I feel like just going to jail he's not
really gonna change the impulse you had to kill him
in the first place. So once you come out of jail,
you might as well just do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Sure, yeah, sure, what So Okay, let's say there's a
guy and he's like, see that guy over there, I'm
gonna kill him with a knife. Okay, I'm gonna stab
him over and over again, this guy only because I'm
not just for no reason, just for fun, just to
see what it feels like, for just to see what
it feels like, it for the sake of it. Okay,
So then from what you from your belief, how do

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we get what should happen to that guy? Should we
is it should we punish him because he killed a guy?
Or should we get him to a point where he
didn't want to kill guys anymore?

Speaker 11 (01:12:19):
I think we should talk to him and figure out
what made him want to kill someone and kind of
like understand why do we find life so valuable? Why
do we find that so ominous and so like tele
and then like go from there, like see what his
impulses are, and like it's probably something underlying more about
himself more than so much about the guy he ended
up killing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Right, we gotta figure that out?

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, Yeah, what what do you think it is that
makes people want to kill people for no reason?

Speaker 11 (01:12:42):
I think for some people he's like feeling control. I
feel like a lot of people feel over it, just
like subjects of society and like kind of like things
are imposed onto us. It's like a claim of like
oh I'm just radically gonna do something and like it's
gonna have consequences, but I did it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Why people like light fires and shoot?

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Yeah, just feeling control?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
I think, yeah, yeah, interesting interesting, Yeah, because it is
like right, okay, right, because let's say you want to
change the world, like to do it to to change
the world pro socially is like way more effort, I agree,
than to change the world anti socially, because it's like

(01:13:23):
like the actual process of like killing someone or lighting
a building on fire is easier than like writing a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Sitting down and processing how you feel about it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Yeah, yeah, sitting Like it's way easier than like writing
a sonnet.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Yeah, it's easier.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It's easier than writing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Like a good sonnet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I don't know if what I said is actually true.
I think so. I think it makes sense. Like what's
what's harder? Like like painted, Like I'm talking like in
a all right, Like if you were putting a white
room with nothing in it. Yeah, and you there's a
paint brush on an easel and a knife and a
guy with a stupid face, and it was like, all right,

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to get out of the room, you have to either
kill the guy with the stupid face or paint a
beautiful painting. I guess it's like, again, process wise, easier
to kill the guy with the stupid face.

Speaker 11 (01:14:20):
I it's more easy to agree that, like when he's dead,
it's easy to agree that he's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
How great that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
This guy is dead is easier than the consensus that
the painting is beautiful? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Yeah, what would you do in that case?

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
What I do?

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Yeah, i'd.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I would kill the guy and then make a beautiful
painting with his blood. Said that, but yeah, there we go, somebody, yes,
clap for that. Yes, that's a great thing to say
that people should flat for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
What would you do?

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
What you do?

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
How about stop myself?

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
I guess you could do that. That's that's that's good.
That's that's you know what that is The easiest, easiest
is to just kill yourself, but not how to deal
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yeah, then you don't have to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I mean that's the easiest solution process wise to anything. Yeah,
you know, that's way easier than get what's the there's
a giving up swhite harder than the giving ups easier
than trying. Yeah, I was about a quota. I think
that's a Kanye bar giving up white harder than trying.
But it's not. It's that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong. That's

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one of many wrong Yeah things.

Speaker 11 (01:15:35):
I mean there's some things that like, are you that
suicide is kind of like holding onto hope that like
some people kill themselves hoping that he's gonna be better,
and it's just it's nothing, it's not better.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
It's like suicide's not holding onto hope.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
Right, I also think it's not holding onto hope.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
But I'm just saying alive is holding onto hop Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:15:53):
But I know, like Albert Kamu like talks about like
suicide in like very like the same terms as like hope.
It's like people like hope that there's the only way
they see change possible is by ending their lives and
hoping that like we don't know what happens after life,
so like it's kind of like taking a gamble.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yeah yeah, but also you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Well that's the thing is you're gonna find out at
one point or another.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
Will we Yeah, you find out, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Because you die and then you find out, but.

Speaker 11 (01:16:18):
You're not conscious. So are you finding out what happens
if you're not conscious?

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
That's true?

Speaker 11 (01:16:22):
Yeah, yeah, people around you find out. We know what
that is because people around us, well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
People around you find out what happens when you die,
which is that there's a funeral and maybe it's catered
and there's something this charcuterie board.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
And very expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
What what do you want for your funeral?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Do you want the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Do you want to be like put in a jar?

Speaker 11 (01:16:42):
I want to be given to nature. I want like
trees to eat me and like become food for the environment.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Why what's your name again?

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Anna?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Anna? Why should people live?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Anna?

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Oh that's a heavy question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Sorry, that's a lot to put on you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I'm just I don't you don't need to have an answer,
but I'm just curious what you think because you've studied.

Speaker 11 (01:17:04):
I think we don't really choose to become alive, and
an unconsensual choice that he's put onto us might as
well just try it out and see what he feels like. Yeah, sure,
and play with it because we don't really have an
option around it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
And then if you tune out of it. That's I'm
not I'm not super anti suicide. I don't know, controversial.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Oh man, yeah, yeah, well I don't. I look all right,
I'll bounce it out. I think, give it a shot.
Here's the thing I can think of because like, oh,
there's a ball, a ball almost rolled it. That's my
worst fear. That's my worst fear of all time. That
would be my thirteenth. Reason why it's my worst fear
of all time is that like I'm near like a

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playground or whatever, and there's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
A bunch of like cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
You have to throw it back, and the ball comes
near me and I have to like kick it back.
I'm so afraid that I'm gonna kick it the wrong
way and then I have to go into the woods
and get it.

Speaker 11 (01:17:58):
I've seen someone do that. They like kick get into
a tree, and they ruined the day for the rest
of the people playing that night.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's the situation in which I'm not. I'm
also totally not anti suicide. It's yeah, context dependent. But
now here's my Okay, here's my argument is there's so
many different things you could try before you do that.
I mean, knitting.

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):
Exactly, you know, or like disappearing and started on your
life somewhere else. Might as well try that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
You might as well try there's so many different things
you your brain only has access to the reality that
it's that it's experienced thus far.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, so you might as well try some new ship.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Yeah, and there's infinite That's the thing is you could, like,
there's inxact things to try until you turn eighty or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
The huges.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
So just keep infinitely trying. And you might because I'll
take a maybe over.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
A no exactly. Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 11 (01:18:51):
There's so many choosing might as well just see what
what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
You just keep choosing maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
I like that, Just keep choosing maybe, would you eat today? Anything?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I don't know why I have this problem.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I think I I think it started since I've been
doing this podcast of like I just have to turn
every fucking conversation to some esoteric whatever the fuck thing.
I was. I was around, uh, these group of guys.
I've told this story on this podcast probably before. But
I was around these group of guys and they were

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eating a sandwich and one of them starts crushing chips
into the sandwich and then they start talking about how
awesome it is to crush chips on a sandwich.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
What's your take on that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
It's all I love it? And I was like why,
And I was like, why can't I? I want to
have more conversations like this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Everyone's always you know those people on dating apps where
they're like, I only have deep conversations. Yeah, that sounds like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Hell, yeah that sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
It sounds crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah, sometimes you want to just talk about a simple pleasure.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
That's what we can all agree on easily.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Yeah, you want to talk about something we've been we've
been getting too into the weeds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
You want to talk talk about something normal?

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Like what you watch?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Anything good on TV? Lately?

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
I started watching the new season of White Lotos recently.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Oh, okay, I don't know that one.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
Okay, it's okay. Have you seen that? You you've never
heard of the show?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
No, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 11 (01:20:13):
Okay, I recommend The first two seasons were really good.
The third one I'm still waiting for it to kind
of like okay, yeah, get better, all right, I'll check
it out. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
What about you? What do you like to watch?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
I don't really watch a lot of TV.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Okay do you read?

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
No, not really, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
We'll look at YouTube videos?

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Nice? What type of YouTube videos?

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Stuff like how did how did uh like make thirty
thousand dollars from home with Amazon drop shipping?

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
Nice? Has it worked for you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
I just watched the I watched the first two minutes
of it, and then I go look at like gameplay
from a GameCube for game gameplay from the rug Rats
GameCube game that I played around as a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:20:55):
I was looking at tickets for my spring breaks coming up,
and I want to figure out what I can do.
I'm from Columbia. I want to go back to Columbia,
but tickets are so expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
We're in Columbia from I was born in Bogota.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
I grew up in Melojing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
My cousin's going to Bogata. Oh nice, Yeah, he's gonna
for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
You have the first time? Okay, any tips for my cousin.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Don't walk around with your phone out.

Speaker 11 (01:21:17):
Bogota is more like it's like the New York like
the Columbia version of New York is very chaotic, is
very busy, is not like super like tourists friendly as
much as other cities. I would say, don't judge Columbia
based off Bogota. I love Bota, but it's not it's
not like flowers and tropics. That's more like Melojin or
the coast. But there's a lot of museums and cultural stuff.

(01:21:39):
A lot of street art is really cool. The foot
is the foot is bombed. Yeah, incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
What's what's that? What's Columbian food?

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Like?

Speaker 11 (01:21:44):
What it changes by city by region because we have
a lot of like mountains, so altitude. We have a
lot of like different veggies that grow in Bogota. The
main dish is called tahiaco, is like a potato based
soup with chicken, and it's so good that sounds it's
so yummy. I'm vegan now, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Still a vegan because like it's like like for ethics
reasons or your stomach hurts for ethics.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
I've been vegan for ten years now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Oh pretty good, Yeah, pretty good. I'm also, uh, this
is another rant I've got.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
I have a simp.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Fucking like, I have like three rants that I go
on and this is one of them. Is like, uh,
I logically understand that it's unethical to kill animals and
eat them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Yeah, but I do it anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
That's fair.

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
I feel like I am more comfortable with people that
understand that and make that choice and then like you're
making a moral choice of your own decision autonomy, rather
than like pretending like it's not like you're eating there's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
No real Yeah, well we could be fine. We Yeah,
lots of chickens for no reasons.

Speaker 11 (01:22:48):
And I have more problem not so much with consuming meat,
but with the like how it's massively produced.

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
Now, like I don't have a problem.

Speaker 11 (01:22:55):
He's like a local, like indigenous person or like you
have your own farm and you like that's I don't
really mind that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
But no, I'm like when tight like Tyson dinosaur chicken nuggets,
you're not like that's a little too much. It's a
little too much. I will admit it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Is fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
We've gone it's fucked up to kill an animal and
then make it into.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
The you're laughing at it? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Yeah, we're trolling chicken. We're we're big trolling chickens. You
know what, maybe you just maybe you shouldn't have been
a chicken. Maybe you should have been something cool or
like a like a guy with a skateboard. Yeah. Uh
and thanks for talking to about Is there anything else
you want to say to the people of the computer.

Speaker 11 (01:23:36):
Uh, not much. I yeah, I'm about to eat some food.
I'm so hungry, but it was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
I'm hungry too. You made me hungry for for dinosaur chicken. Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Well, I'll yeah you too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
By literally, wow, folks, this has been being a gecko
on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
This was good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
I'm gonna keep doing more of these. I I haven't
done one of these in like nine or two, ten
months or something. I forgot how much fun it is
to talk to people in real life instead of in
a room. I'm still gonna talk to people alone in
a dark room.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
I'll still be doing that, but I might just start
trying to do this once a week or every other
week or something like that. So stay tuned. I hope
you enjoyed it. Hit subscribe on YouTube or hit whatever
on a podcast thing. Thanks for if and if you're

(01:24:30):
listening to that, let me just from experience, I just
here's if you're listening to this and you're in your
underwear in your house alone, and you're like and you're
going crazy. Just put on pants and go outside and
you'll you'll be like, all right, that was half the battle. Okay,
thanks for being here with me on this journey. I'm

(01:24:51):
a gecko. I'm insane, and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Get off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Get off the computer. Okay, bye everyone, goodbye, see you later.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Bye.

Speaker 7 (01:25:00):
Therapy. Get goes on the line, taking your phone calls
every night.

Speaker 6 (01:25:05):
The repent goes through Its eye's

Speaker 7 (01:25:07):
Teaching you to houses of your life, but he's not
really an expert.

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