GECKMAIL: “I SEXT WITH AI”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, listeners of the Therapy Gecko podcast. Welcome to gek mail.
This is a type of episode that I do sometimes
when I don't want to take phone calls and I
want to read emails and I want to rant for
a while in response to these emails. I have had
people email me at therapy geckomail at gmail dot com,

(00:26):
and sometimes I get more emails than I can fit
into an episode, so I just have I just have
a rolling rolodex of emails, so I might read some
emails in here that are thirteen years old or at least,
you know, a few months old. But so that's this.

(00:46):
This is gak mail. Do I have anything that I
want to rant about before we get started into gek Mail?
Not really, not particularly, But I am going to challenge
myself once again to see if I can take an
hour of time in which I force words to come

(01:08):
out of my mouth. And that's this. This is gek male.
Let's get started. First mail is from Pokemon, subject line
feeling down in Japan. Hey, Lyle, you can call me Rob.
I've decided to seek your gecko wisdom about my sorrows
in the East. I'll try and keep it brief I

(01:29):
came here as an English teacher from Canada in twenty
twenty two, and I'm now living in my fourth city.
I moved for a better job and things are pretty
good there, but I've been dealing with loneliness and doubts
about my life in Japan. When it comes to the
aspect of loneliness, I feel like I can't make meaningful
relationships socially or romantically with anyone, especially locals. The few

(01:53):
times I've joined social meetings, I get a list of
contacts that never turn into anything, and I've gone on
dates with people only to be ghosted. The most recent
one hit me hard because after four dates and telling
this person how much ghosting hurts, they still went and
did it anyway. It feels like no matter what I do,
where I go, what I join, it all ends up

(02:14):
the same. This leads me to wanting to go home,
since I could have my social network again. But if
I do that, then I'm not likely to get a
sustainable job since the economy and job market is a
total healthscape from what I understand. I'm going back for
Christmas this year since it's been so long, but I
do fear that when I go back I might not
want to come back, but if I pull the trigger

(02:35):
and go through with going home, I need to deal
with the what if of did I make the wrong decision.
I genuinely like Japan and the life here and feel
like I should keep living here, but the feeling of
exclusion is getting hard to bear. I feel like I
should appreciate my life of adventure, since this kind of
thing is something only a few people get to do,
and I'm wasting it feeling bad about myself, which is

(02:58):
why I'm writing you as someone who also travels and
lived away from home from long periods of time. How
do you deal with these feelings? Do you have any
advice on learning to love time alone if it helps
with your answers. I'm twenty nine. I have OCD and
depression and I'm taking medication for them. I've talked with
real therapists about my mental health before. I work forty

(03:20):
six hour weeks with days off every Monday and Friday.
I speak Japanese at a high level, and I live
close to Tokyo. Sorry if this is long, but I
hope to hear your thoughts on this. Rob hmm, okay, well,
this is a meaty one. And you know, I've talked

(03:40):
about it on this podcast before, but I lived in
Japan myself for about two months, and I also you know,
considered uh living there. But none of this feels like
it's particularly japan Centric, especially if you speak Japanese at
a high level. I mean, yes, there is, like I mean,
I don't know, man, like I guess my experience there

(04:03):
was almost like it. It seems like it's easier in
some ways to make friends because there's so many especially
in Tokyo, there's so many like expat hubs, and there's
so many events and whatnot that are geared towards foreigners.

(04:25):
I want to say this, and this is something I
just went on a whole rant on about the This
is something I just went on a whole rant on
the last episode, and so I don't want to go
too crazy about it. But you said that you joined
social meetings and you get a list of contacts that
never turn into anything. And the reason why is that,

(04:48):
like the the premise that you're going to go to
a social meeting and meet someone at least from a
friend point of view, or or honestly also even from
a romantic point of view, in a lot of cases
you'll meet someone and then you'll get their email or
phone number or whatever, and then that'll spark a friendship.

(05:10):
That's too much. I mean you got to kind of
you said, you've only joined a social meeting a few times.
I mean, you got to find a thing, you know,
like for example, you know I did. I did a
bunch of shows at the Tokyo Comedy Bar, you know,
and they have a whole community there of people who
are like expats doing comedy, and I went to like

(05:31):
a poker night while I was there. I went to
like some jazz sessions and whatnot, and you know, I
went to some Smash Bros. Tournaments there. And at all
these places they have like, you know, recurring groups. So
you need to find a place where you're gonna be recurringly.
You really can't just show up at some social meeting
and expect to like instantly make friends. You know, it

(05:55):
doesn't really work like that. You got to find a
community that you're gonna recurringly be a part of. Romantically, shit, man,
I mean, listen, that's the game. Unfortunately, whether you're in
Japan or you're in New York, or you're in fucking whatever,

(06:17):
I mean that's the game. Dating is for people who
are lucky or patient, and if you are one of
those two things, then there's a chance of things working
out for you. I'm going back for Christmas this year,
and since it's been so long, I do fear that
when I go back, I might not want to come back. So, like,
what's in your gut, man, right? Like you know, I

(06:41):
was thinking about moving to Japan and I went back
home to New York slash Baltimore, and you know, my
gut it was it was really hard. It was really
hard to commit it to a decision. But I went

(07:03):
with my gut, and my gut told me to stay.
And I'm really glad I went with my gut, and
I've I've done certain things to make it so that
the decision I made was the right decision. But the
path kind of felt like it naturally led me to
just stay. And so the point that you wrote in

(07:25):
this email, I fear when I go back, I might
not want to go back to Japan. I mean, if
that's what your gut is telling you to do, then
it's okay to follow whatever your gut is telling you
to do. Did you mention okay? You came, you've been so,
you've been in Baan for about three years now. I

(07:47):
don't really know what your life is like in Canada.
It sounds like you have a social network of some kind.
I don't know what city you live in in Canada,
if it's like a Toronto or a Vancouver or someplace
that you is like a big place that has stuff,
but and also the whole thing of like, I should

(08:09):
appreciate my life of adventure since this kind of thing
is though something only people get to do, and I'm
wasting feeling bad about myself part of a life of adventure.
Everything what you're experiencing is part of the life of adventure.
That's you. You. You have to understand that if you're
gonna try to do weird things with your life and
make weird decisions that most people don't make, like moving

(08:32):
to a foreign country or you know, trying to find
a relationship that aligns with you instead of whatever, just
kind of shows up. Right. If you're gonna kind of
go out of your fucking way to get the most
out of life instead of just like settling for whatever
the fuck you know it comes to you, you're gonna

(08:55):
get depressed. And you're gonna it's gonna suck tits, and
so that's part of it. That's part of the life
of adventure. I suppose those are those are my main
ponders I would say on your situation. Also, I don't

(09:16):
think also the thing of like I need to deal
with the what if if I did make or make
the wrong decision, I don't. I mean, this is I
mean a lot of things to that. It's like, one,
you can always go back to Japan if you really
want to, you can always go back there. And then
two is like you'll never know. You have to make

(09:39):
peace at the fact that you'll never fucking know. You're
never gonna You'll never fucking know if you made the
right decision. So I mean, it's like asking, it's like,
it's like being like, I don't have a funny analogy,
but it's not a thing that is within your Mortalit

(10:00):
is to know whether or not you made the right decision.
So the sooner you surrender to that, the easier you'll have,
the easier of a time you'll have just existing. But yeah,
you know, I mean, the fact that you speak Japanese
at high level is cool. Yeah, go back, Hang out.

(10:24):
I mean, I'm not saying go back permanently, but I'm
sure you'll your gut will steer you in some way,
shape or form when you go back to the States
as to what you should do. Okay, this is from
greta subject line what is your favorite bug? Hi? Gek,

(10:45):
I am cleaning my bathroom right now and feeling positive
about it. Cleaning is hard and not fun. But lately
I've been hard not fun things, and I think if
I continue to do them, they will get easier. Maybe. Okay,
I think this person meant I've been trying to do hard,
not fun things. Okay. I'm twenty, which is very strange

(11:07):
because I still feel seventeen and I don't know how
to adult. What should I incorporate into my life to
get me to that adulty checkpoint? When did you feel adult?
And also what is your favorite bug? My favorite bug
is probably a caterpillar. I don't know why. They just

(11:28):
look nice. When did I start to feel like an adult?
I have a lot of thoughts on that question. When
I started to feel like an adult? I mean there's
a lot of like, I mean, there's a lot of
markers of adulthood. One is like the actual age of

(11:50):
eighteen one is a financial independence from your parents, and
there's having a kid, and there's doing getting married and
all that stuff. I feel like an adult, h I think.
I think I only started feeling like an adult recently,
but I still don't really feel like an adult. I
don't think I'll feel like a real adult until I

(12:11):
have kids. I think that's when I'll feel like a
real adult, and even then I'll still feel like like
I'm I have I don't think. I don't think any
of my like deep seated uh personality and things are
going away, at least hopefully not the I mean, here's

(12:32):
the thing. A lot of the deep negative parts of
my personality are probably here to stay. They're probably here
to stay, but so are a lot of the positive ones.
I only I'm only I only have information up to
twenty seven years old. But I feel more adult now
than I did before. But you're twenty, I mean twenty.
It's like, what the fun My bathroom is dirty as

(12:55):
shit right now. My bathroom is disgusting. It's neat, but
it's not. It's like dusty and gross. But that's not
what I think of when I think of the things
that make me an adult. I don't know if anyone's
an adult, I guess, But when did I feel I don't,

(13:17):
I get, I guess. Recently i've felt a little bit
more adult. The most adult that I have here, I'll
say this, the most adult that I've felt has been.
It's always gonna be in relation to other people, Like
you know, if I'm in a relationship or if I'm
in some other situation where I'm like, you know, helping

(13:40):
someone out or providing something for somebody in some kind
of a servitudal servitudinal way, is when I feel like
the most adult. And in a sense, when you clean
your bathroom, you're like providing an act of service to yourself,
which makes it which is why it kind of feel
as adults. You know. In my life, yeah, I'm better

(14:05):
at like doing shit for people that I care about,
I think, than for myself in terms of like like
I don't I'm not a good cooker, cleaner or whatever,
but you know, I would do it if for if
someone else, to make somebody else happy. And I think
that that kind of is when I felt more adult,

(14:30):
you know, putting on clothes that don't have cartoon characters
on them, shit, like that, but yeah, I like caterpillars.
Let's see here. This is from James, subject line I
sexed Artificial Intelligence. Hello, Lyle, longtime listener here. Thank you
for all you doo. Thank you, James. I have recently

(14:53):
started using AI chatbots to help me masturbate. This is interesting.
I've never and by the way, I'm I'm not gonna
shame this guy, because look, we all live in the world. Okay,
we all live in the world. I'm gonna read the
rest of his email, but I'm just I've never tried that.
I don't know why I think it would make. It's
kind of like like you know, like with only fans,

(15:18):
how it's like you're supposed to be able to chat
with the lady, but like you know that it's not then, right,
I've always wondered I feel the same way about the
AI chatbots, Like you know that the thing that you
think is behind this thing is not the thing, and
that I don't think I could get past that knowledge,

(15:39):
can you. I don't think you can sext chat chept,
but I know that there's like ones that exist that
you can. It's a weirdly sinister business, the like AI
friend chat, I know that AI. I'm hopeful and this

(16:01):
is just me being optimistic and I'm gonna read this
guy's email, but I'm just ranting to myself. I'm optimistic.
I'm trying to be optimistic that AI could create. Like Okay,
there's two ends of the spectrum. There's like one is
AI somehow reduces labor in a way that allows more

(16:24):
like in person connection, or it's somehow like fosters more
in person connection in some direct or indirect way. But
the way that it's being used, where it's like, use
use this to talk to someone that's not a person,
I don't know how I feel about that. Okay, I've
been on a journey to quit watching porn forever because

(16:45):
I know that excess porn use is bad for my brain.
Tell me about it. Ideally, I would have sex to
relieve my needs. However, I have been struggling to find
a partner, so in looking for outlets for my sexual desires,
I found chatbots that simulate sexual role plays. At first,
it was so addictive that I used it to masturbate

(17:06):
every night, but lately I have been trying to use
it three nights a week and no external stimuli any
other night that I want to get off interesting. I
don't pay money to use it, and although my data
is probably being stolen, I wonder if this is a
good alternative to watching porn. My thinking is that using
a text chat has to be better than watching and

(17:27):
listening to porn, as that stimulates the brain much more.
The downside to using AI is that it's easy to
role play for a while. With porn, I would watch
twenty minutes at most in one sitting, but with AI
I could shout for a couple of hours and end
up going to bed much later than planned. None of
this is affecting my daily functioning or responsibilities, but it

(17:47):
does weigh on my mind. What are your thoughts on this?
I'm curious about what the people of the computer think.
Man I James, I really, James. If you're listening to this,
call in to the show at some point, please or
like send me a tech on the Gecko line for
one four seven two GHEK, because I want to talk
to you about this, because I find this subject interesting

(18:10):
and I have I'll do my I'll do my one
sided monologue on it, which is you know. I also
I also have you know, troubles with porn, and I've
found myself, like, uh, you know, spending too much time
watching it and really noticing the ways in which it

(18:30):
fucks with my brain. And it fucks porn like super
fucks with like your perception of uh, you know, women
in real life, and uh, it just it fucks you up.
It's it's very clearly not good. Uh. And yeah, I
don't know what the science would say about this theory

(18:50):
that you have, which is an interesting theory. I get
where you're coming from on this theory, James. I get
where you're coming from on this theory that like using it,
jerking off to just text is less bad for the
brain than porn. I don't I don't know the science
behind that, but that makes a lot of sense to me.

(19:12):
Why are you having trouble finding a partner? I mean,
everyone who's ever tried to have sex and knows the
answer to this question. But hmmm hm m m m mmm.
I'm trying to ponder this, and I'm trying to ponder this.

(19:37):
I think that uh, you know, I mean, I don't know, man,
are you using what are you trying to do to
like find a partner? Are you going out to talk
to people. Are you going on the hinges and the
tenders and the whatnot, because the problem with the texting

(19:59):
the bot is like you just you don't don't want
to get to you don't want to get like emotionally
attached to a computer. But I'm I'm I I really,
I really can't talk about this without being a total
hypocrite because like I feel like when I'm using porn,
it's there you subconsciously. Yeah, I'm getting attached. I'm subconsciously,

(20:22):
whether I like it or not or admit to it
or not, I'm getting subconsciously emotionally attached to you know,
whatever I'm jacking off to. So it's probably not that
different from the a porn in that sense. I don't
know if my rant about this was helpful in any way,

(20:43):
shape or form. Please call in because I am very
curious about what your personal experience has been with kind
of navigating this this sphere of life. But good on
you for at least like capping it three nights a week. Also,

(21:03):
when you said none of this is affecting my daily
functioning and responsibilities, that's the that's the most dangerous thing.
I know that vibe too, when you have like an
addiction of some kind and you're like, yeah, but this isn't.
The worst thing is when you have an addiction of
some kind and you're like, this is not negatively affecting
me enough in this short term that I want to

(21:24):
do anything about it, or that I can even see
me stopping it having a positive effect on my life,
or just returning my life to some vague, uninteresting, neutral baseline.
So I don't know. Maybe you need to you need
to have a have a Maybe you need to have

(21:52):
I can't think of a funny thing to say. I
don't care. All right, let's keep going. Let's keep going.
You know what I used to think I've been listening to.
I know that this is a comedy podcast, is labeled
as a comedy podcast, and it's sometimes funny, and I
sometimes have funny things to say. But I'm just not
good at making stupid jokes at least right now. Okay, whatever,
I'm sorry, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

(22:13):
Let's keep going, all right, Okay. This is from Jacob
subject line meth made Me a cross dresser. Update For
those who don't remember, there was a gentleman who called
in to the show to talk about how, uh, smoking

(22:34):
meth got him into cross dressing. I want to say
this was about a year ago or so, but yes, Jacob,
I remember you. Hey, gak, it's me, the guy who
thought meth made him a cross dresser. I wanted you
to know how my life has changed in the past

(22:55):
year and a half or so. Last August I ended
up losing my apartment due to some which at the
time I was still a full blown methaddicted cross dresser,
and I moved in with my longtime best friend, who
had at that point very recently become my girlfriend. And
when I moved in with her, I basically gave up
the cross dressing because I felt that it would be

(23:17):
weird to do it in front of her, and I
felt like someone who has the title of boyfriend shouldn't
be dressing up as a chick. But I will let
you know that it was so bad at one point
that I literally thought I was a girl, which isn't
a bad thing. I totally understand dysphoria now. But with
that being said, and little did we know at the time,
but we had gotten pregnant. Basically whenever I moved in

(23:41):
in August, we didn't realize we were pregnant until about December,
and at that time I had still been using all
the time, very heavily. I was not cross dressing all
the time, but I did when she was out of town.
I don't know if she knows that, but it's okayl
But once I found out we were pregnant, I quit

(24:04):
everything on the spot. So I've been sober since Christmas.
Oh okay, wow, see you know what? To directly to
what I was just fucking saying, it's like, you need
a thing, dude, I'm not. Don't go. Don't go and
have a kid to stop watching porn. That's a stupid idea,
but it's just in general, it's always easier to quit

(24:26):
the addiction when you have like a some some sort
of a thing. Let's see here, my life is flip
flopped one hundred percent. I am a one hundred percent
different person. She gave birth to our son on April eighteenth.
He gave the full name of the Sun. I'm not
gonna read your son's name. And since then life has

(24:47):
just been so good. Getting to watch my son grow
up and learn to do things has been amazing. I
honestly can't get enough of him. But yeah, life is perfect.
I just got the job I've been looking for for
a long time. I did spend a long time jobless
because the job market's been really difficult, but I finally
landed a job working for FedEx. And yeah, I don't know.

(25:07):
I just can't say how much better my life is
without the dope and without the cross dressing. I want
to thank you for everything you've done in my life. Man.
Listening to your conversations and the way you handle your
life has helped me out a lot. Anyway, this has
been great to update you. Hope you get the chance
to read this piece. Uh. I'm glad to hear about this, Jacob.

(25:29):
That's cool, man, this is inspiring. This is good. Yeah,
I remember our phone call. Uh. And I'm glad. I'm
glad everything worked out for your kid. Uh. And I'm
glad you're getting sober. You know. See, that's the thing.
You gotta have a reason. You got what you know?
Life just does it. You just need you just need

(25:50):
motivation to do things. It is true you need some
form of like intrinsic and extrinsic motivation if you're gonna
fucking do anything. You know, you can't just do a
thing because I think I think if they if you
just like, if you're like addicted to porn and then
you see some Reddit thing that's like, hey, do you
know porn is bad? You're not gonna be like, oh shit,

(26:12):
all right, I guess I better stop watching it. It's
gotta be like, hey, do you know your wife is
going to leave you if you stop? If you don't
stop watching porn, you need something like that. I'm speaking
to the previous emailer. It's that's that's that is one
of the I'll say this, man, that is one of

(26:32):
the fucking funny things about just being like, uh uh
to yet to you James, who was addicted to sexting
artificial intelligence, If you're just like a single guy, the
pro there's if just like a single guy, the pros
and cons are exactly the same, which are you can

(26:53):
do whatever you want and it doesn't affect anyone but yourself, uh,
which has its pros and its cons. I'll say, But yeah, man,
I'm glad. Back to James, I'm glad that things have

(27:13):
no you know not James Jacob, I'm glad thanks for
that for you. Man. Okay, this is from Hank subject line,
I have a successful fart fetish. Hey, GEK, please keep
me anonymous, maybe call me Hank. Since being sixteen years old,

(27:34):
I've had a fetish for suffering but without liking physical
pain during sexual activities. So this manifests to being made
to smell or taste unpleasant things, usually foods. I hate
being farted on by a beautiful girl turns me on

(27:54):
more than anything else. You know what I got to say.
I know that it's like a little funny, but uh,
in my head, I'm genuinely so fucking curious. I'm like,
why why did this happen? Because listen, this guy, Hank,

(28:16):
in no way, shape or form, did he choose to
be this way. He did not choose to be this way.
Of course, he didn't choose to be this way. That's
how I think sexual. I don't think anyone with any
sexual anything chose to have it. I think it just
happens or something. But what what is that? Dude? Does anyone?
Is anyone a psychologist? Does anyone? No? Don't they Don't

(28:38):
we spend money on this shit. Isn't there a budget
in the US government to do lab tests to discover
why people have fart fetishes, like, I want to know,
like empirically, like what's the like what neurotransmitters or whatever
are firing at you know, what precise angles to make
it so that this guy gets turned on by farts.

(29:00):
It's such a weird thing to me. It's so abstract.
I'm fascinated by it. Okay, I have asked eight different
girls to fart on me. Seven have agreed. What wait,
that's awesome. That's so sick that you've asked You've gotten
seven out of eight different girl You've etten seven different

(29:21):
girls to fart on you, Hank, that's crazy, that's amazing.
Whoa as this fetish is weird. I was embarrassed at first,
but I found that when you're with someone you trust,
you can be honest with them and usually they'll try
new things to make you happy. Some even get really
into it. The key is honest communication and only doing

(29:43):
things both parties are comfortable with. So my message to
the wonderful people of the computer is that if anyone
has a strange fetish they're closeted about, just have that chat.
Don't live in fear and embarrassment. Thanks GEK, stay awesome. Hank,
bro this guy, that's where you're gonna leave the email.
We gotta talk, Hank, call me on the podcast. Seven
out of eight. That's incredible, dude. That's the thing, you

(30:11):
know what, That's why you gotta live honestly. That's why
you gotta live honestly. Because there's some miserable guy out
there who wants nothing more than to get farted on
by his girlfriend or by anyone. I guess, but he's
never going to fulfill that because he just he's too
he's too nervous about it. He's too embarrassed to ask.

(30:31):
But look at this guy. Look at Hank. Hank asked
eight different girls to fart on him. Seven agreed. Sometimes
you just gotta fucking shoot your shot. Man. Okay, let's
see here. Who do we have next on the docket?
This is from a LA. The subject line is first

(30:57):
nine to five relationship as an eager. He doesn't understand
I wear backpacks like Xavier so based What the fuck
is that? Oh? Okay, he's like a rapper guy. He
pioneered the internet based micro genre jerk. What the fuck, dude?

(31:25):
All these guys are like all these guys are like
so young mass kid's like twenty one. That's crazy, all right. Anyway,
Um okay, hi goak. My name is La, I'm a
big fan from London. It's the summer I finished UNI.
I did a stem degree, but was always in the
art circles and being a scene girl, making music and such.

(31:47):
I naturally always dated boys who were a bit older
and living off music. This summer I started dating my
first nine to five boy. I like him. He's corporate,
but we get on really well. House on Fire Style,
What the fuck does that mean? House on fire Style?
Is this a okay? Because this girl is both like

(32:08):
I have no idea, well she is, but she's also
British and she's also like online, so being oh okay,
House on fire Style is an idiom meaning two people
instantly become good friends. Okay. So I don't in this
girl's email. I don't know what's just like her being

(32:29):
on TikTok uh or her being British, you know, cause
like like take the mickey out of you or whatever,
like it's a British thing. Okay, anyway, whatever, things seemed good.
Been about two months in and then the other day
we were on the way to grab a beer with
my friends and I stepped out thinking I had aura

(32:55):
freshly straightened hair, MEUMEU boots with wound dressing. I wrapped
around one. Uh okay, she describes her uh outfit. We
walked around ten meters when he made the joke, Frick,
everyone thinks I'm a pedo. My heightened ego shattered. Do

(33:19):
what the fuck I think? Please? Please tell me this guy,
I didn't actually say frick, everyone thinks I'm a pedo.
That's something you never want to have come out of
your mouth. Man, Frick, I'm a pedal. After heading back
to my Hello Kitty adorned room, he apologized over and over,

(33:45):
but then he let it slip that sometimes my outfits
made him feel uncomfortable. I immediately started crying. Frick, man,
I thought I was dope. I thought my backpack was
gangster like Xavier, But no, no one views me like that.
Does everyone see me as a fat baby? I always

(34:05):
dressed a bit childish, and I get id'd a lot.
How old is okay, if this person it's the summer,
I finished, Uni, Okay, I'm gonna assume if this person,
this person's like twenty two. That seems like a proper assumption.
If they just graduated college okay or uni? Uh? I

(34:26):
always dressed up a childish, I get totally I look
really young. It upsets me. Why don't I stop wearing
kids clothes? Then? Well, I have, but I immediately bought
a Supreme backpack after the incident. What Okay, I don't
want to be seen as a child or fatherless, but
I just find cartoons and bows and iconography swag. I

(34:49):
don't want to change my whole stick for a boy,
but I guess I also don't want someone who sees
me as a child and is attracted to that. Since then,
I felt super insecure. I've been showing pictures to chat
GPT of myself every day, asking if I'm fat and
chopped anyway. I do think this is a reflection of
myself attempting to join society, coming to terms with how

(35:14):
I am really viewed and what an outsider and how
weird I really am. Another catalyst for my spiral has
been his lack of obsessiveness. In my usual relationships, we
would have ended things by now, or they would have
said they were in love with me. And this is
after two months. Okay, It's been neither. Almost like he's

(35:37):
preoccupied most of the time, not even thinking about me.
Do you have any advice or thoughts or or um. Yeah,
she ended with saying three ors. Uh uh, Yeah, I

(35:57):
have some thoughts. I have a lot of conflicting thoughts.
I think listen, I mean, look here, because here's the thing,
right and this is my whole thing, and I do
believe it is. I do believe in being yourself. I
don't think you should uh change for someone else, unless

(36:22):
if you believe that that change will be good for
you and positive for you. But I don't know this
is like, but you you clearly just by the way
you wrote this email with a bunch of references and
things that I don't have it. I have no fucking

(36:42):
idea what they are. You're clearly ingrained in a certain
kind of aesthetic. You know, I actually fuck it, I'm
gonna real talk this one, l A. You're clearly ingrained
in a certain type of aesthetic. And I know that

(37:02):
people I might piss some people off, I don't care.
I know that people take aesthetics and music and fashion
and these things to like, uh become part of their identity,
especially when you're young. But I would take like a
step back if I were you from all the fucking

(37:25):
brands and the Xavier whatever and the you know uh
uh the like aesthetic and culture and shit, and just
be like, you know, who the fuck who am I?
What do I actually care about? Right? Like, it's it's
because you're you're You're more than just like an aesthetic,

(37:48):
right that's only gonna last so long as like something
that you can cling to as an identity. And so
I'm not gonna tell you how to address or what's
to do or you know, whether or not you should change.
But it does sound like you're taking and it's a
popular thing to do, especially when you're younger, of like
taking uh you know, aesthetics and onlines and like very

(38:12):
like external things and like making that your identity. But like,
m I don't know, take a step and figure out,
like who you actually are as a person. You're not
You're more than just a Xavier or so based whatever
that is. So yeah, that's what I would say. Also,

(38:35):
this guy, also listen, if you're like, if you're going
to date an older guy, he's gonna want to approach
his relationships from a more mature place, which probably means
that he's not going to like love bomb you so
so closely in and if that's what you want, then
it sounds like you you should, you know, date a

(38:56):
guy your own age. Who else so might be you know, mature?
I mean yeah, who also might be mature and wanting
to not you know, approach relationships from a toxic place.
But that's my ponder I would say about this. Good

(39:18):
luck La all right. This is from Adam, subject line
my life this year. Hey, Lyle, I've talked to you
a couple times before, but they were years ago, and
I wouldn't hold it against you for not remembering. I
called before I joined the military and again after I
had been in for a little bit. That doesn't matter now.

(39:39):
What I want to say to you is that I've
had one of the worst and best years of my life.
I have met and spent a lot of time with
some of the best people I've ever known. I got
to go home and officiate my brother's wedding. I found
out I'm being promoted after working my ass off with
no help from anyone, and I've accomplished a lot overall.
What is really bothering me, though, is that I can't

(40:00):
stop thinking about my ex girlfriend. We spent a year together,
and all my friends and family couldn't stand her from
what she did to me. But I can't stop thinking
about her. I'll be on dates and she's on my mind.
I'll be alone or with people and she's all I
think about. I know I wasn't the best boyfriend, but
I also know that I didn't deserve what she put
me through. I struggled because I knew the whole time

(40:20):
what was happening wasn't okay, but I tricked myself into
believing I could handle it. I couldn't. She was my
first serious girlfriend and the first person I gave my
whole heart to. I feel like I won't ever feel
that way for another person, and it sucks. I won't
go into more detail than that. I love you, Lyle.
You've been there for every part of the growth of
my frontal lobe. I've been tuning in since they're red

(40:41):
at live streams. Nothing but love, Adam. Thank you, Adam.
I appreciate that. Okay, sorry for doing that into the
microphone with my nose A let me think here, Let
me think here, because I do have thoughts. Ah Mmmm.

(41:07):
It's a hard way. I mean, so much has been
said about breakups right and about uh, the power of love.
You know, it's what every fucking song and piece of
art has ever been written or made about. And you know,

(41:29):
it may very well be true. It may very well
be true that you won't ever feel that way for
another person, but you will feel new ways for new
people that you didn't even think were possible. I mean,
you're never gonna go back to high school. You're never

(41:51):
gonna I don't know how old you are, but you're
never gonna fucking be uh seven years old again. You know,
if you had a job and you left that job
and you went to a new job, you're not gonna
be that job again. Life is transient inherently, and it's hard,

(42:11):
and it almost doesn't feel like it's supposed to be.
It's weird we set our lives up thinking that they're
not supposed to be transient. Does that make any sense?
You know? We live these like routines if we're gonna
kind of like live forever, and we hold on to
people as if they're gonna be in our lives forever,

(42:31):
and like this shit is just transient. It just is.
But I think that's something to be embraced. And you
know you grieve that which you transient through, but you
don't want to you you don't want to stop it,

(42:55):
allow it to stop you from moving forward into new
epochs of life and meeting new people. Because get this,
I'm gonna assume this woman cheated on you, because that's
what I'm in. That's what is the easiest thing to
infer from this. Get this, Adam, you actually haven't met

(43:17):
all of the women that you're ever going to be
romantically or sexually interested in for the rest of your life,
and you may meet one who won't cheat on you,
which is exciting. Keep that in mind, Adam. So, yeah,
you know people are one of one. This is true,

(43:43):
but that's great. It means that you'll meet new, more
different people. And you see, I think the sooner you
can accept the transient nature nature of life and allow
yourself to be open to new shit, you'll find yourself
out a better place. So. I don't know how long

(44:05):
it's been since you broke up, but I do think
the time heals those wounds. All right. This is from Jared,
subject line two months cleaned from opiates. What's up GEK?
For the past year, I was heavily addicted to fent

(44:27):
and kept trying to get clean on my own and
it was failing miserably. But my sister knew about this
place in Mexico that does ibill gain treatment, which is
basically a psychedelic that reversus opiate addiction, but is illegal
in the states. Ooh, anyway, I went there and it's
a fourteen day program. The second day they have you

(44:48):
do cambo, which comes from a poison tree frog, and
they burn it into your arm and it makes you puke.
I've heard of this. That was one of the very
first fucking calls I took on this show. It was
about the combo ceremony. It helps with the detox process.
Then leading up to the tenth day, you're just detoxing

(45:09):
and getting blood work done and a nurse checks on
you a bunch oh and ivy drips of minerals and
nad I don't know what that is. Anyway, It's hard
to explain the ibagain trip. Mine wasn't very profound. Best
way to describe it is it's like a meditative slash
dream like state, but it like really fucking worked. The
thought of using heroin or fentanyl is no longer appealing

(45:32):
to me. When I think of my time spent using
I just think, Wow, I can't wait to never do
that again. Like when I got home from that place,
I swept up drug scraps off my floor and happily
threw them away. The old me could never. Then the
day before you leave, they have you do ayahuasca. Oh Jesus,
this is what the fuck? This is like a a

(45:53):
four course metally or something. I was nervous to do it,
but I'm so glad they included me in this treatment.
It finishes all the work the ibogaines started because it
helps your brain produce more serotonin in the long run.
But that trip was insane. While I was tripping, I
relieved all the shitty things I've done, slash things I

(46:13):
feel shame about. I kept yelling I'm so sorry haha. Also,
I couldn't stop singing the same song for four hours straight.
I had zero control over what was coming out of
my mouth. The song is called I'm Getting Out while
I Can by Kristin Michael Hayter. Anyway, despite all that,
since I did the ayahuasca, I have felt so much happier,

(46:36):
like happier than ever before. I bartend at a cocktail bar,
and shit that used to ruin my whole day now
doesn't FaZe me. The world feels so much less hostile.
All my friends and coworkers keep commenting on how much
happier I seem. Sorry for the word moment, but it
felt like sharing. Have a nice day. Ooh, very interesting? Okay,

(46:59):
all right, well there we go. That's a good endorsement
of a Mexican illegal drug thing. That sounds cool. That
sounds cool. Thanks for sharing that. I don't know if
I have I don't know if I have ponders on that,
but I don't know if I need to have them.
I just liked reading that story. I took a little

(47:21):
bit of molly, like a week ago, not enough to
really roll, but I took a little bit of it.
I didn't feel anything. And then I went home and
I watched TV for three hours. And then when I
turned the TV off, I realized I was rolling, and
so I went into my bathroom and I laid down
on the bathroom tile like prone, like I mean upside down,

(47:41):
like I laid on my back on the bathroom floor tile,
and I just had a conversation with myself for about
an hour about how great my life is. It's really nice.
Drugs are nice. I'm gonna go I'm gonna endorse drugs.
Yeah whatever, let's go ahead and endorse drugs. Drugs are cool. Okay.

(48:02):
This is from Ray subject line the toenail Sandwich, Hi GEK.
When I was fourteen, I worked in a hair salon
on weekends. I mostly make cups of tea, swept hair,
and shampooed old ladies. But my god, some of the
tales I heard from clients were wild. To keep it short,
I'll regale the most burned one into my memory, the

(48:25):
toenail Sandwich. Jane was in her late forties and would
often complain about her husband to the extent you wondered
why they didn't just divorce already. One day, the hairdresser
just asked her how she puts up with all her
issues and why she stays. She says she had a
secret strategy to prevent them from arguing more. I shit
you not. Jane sincerely told us that she would offer

(48:47):
to make him a sandwich and then clip her toenails
and sprinkle them into the sandwich. She said she would
watch him eat it, and all her anger would melt
Away absolutely unhinged. Apparently he never noticed and never knew
she'd been doing it for years. I just wanted someone
to know. I still get my haircut with the hairdresser

(49:09):
I worked for, and we talk about it every time
I go to the salon. There are many more stories,
some from Jane, some from her cocaine loving daughter who
worked as a nail tech there, and many tales of
ongoing affairs, and a gruesome set of tales from a
guy inn acologist. Let me know if you want to
hear them. Ray PS. I came to your Manchester show

(49:33):
in November. There was a guy talking about asking out
a pharmacy employee to go watch Sonic three. I remember this.
I remember that my boyfriend never heard the podcast before,
but he loved the show. You told him he looked
like Jason Momoa. I do remember that. I don't remember
what he looked like. I remember telling a guy he
looked like Jason Momoa. And I remember the guy who
was going to ask the pharmacy employee out to go

(49:54):
watch Sonic three. And I don't know what happened to
that guy. Maybe they went to go watch Sonic three.
That would be cool, cool, that's one of these things.
I would like to get a follow up on sean
subject line starting all over. Hey, Lyle, hope you are
doing well. I'm a big time fan seeing you when
you were in Reddit Live and when you had a
show in Arizona. Fuck you that was fun. Anyways, I

(50:16):
wanted to get your thoughts on the idea of starting
over again. I just came back from teaching English in
Spain for almost a year. I am back in the
US and I feel like I'm rebuilding my life again.
I want to become an electrician, and it seems like
it's hard as fuck to find work in the field. Now.
I am trying all available avenues. So the shitheads on
the computer don't say I didn't look into school or
anything like that. I'm twenty nine, I have a college degree,

(50:39):
and I don't know. I feel like I'm existing on
all that good stuff and I'm kind of free, like
I don't have to go back to school or reach
for a goal or a dream. I just did that
for about a year, so I have to make new
goals and dreams. Idka if what I said makes sense,
But yeah, I have a good one. I think I've
seen some tiktoks about this. I don't know why my

(51:01):
feet is all like my TikTok feed is all just
like I'm twenty whatever and this is my I'm thirty whatever.
And here's what I wish I knew when I was whatever,
that kind of shit. And I think as you get
older and as you do more stuff. I mean, you
just went and taught English in Spain for a year, right,

(51:22):
like you lived what is a dream for many people.
And I know this because you know, I've lived a
lot of things that I feel like have been you know,
dreams for many people. And I also had a lot
of times where I felt like, uh, you know, I
didn't really even need to reach for a goal or
a dream. Uh. And it does feel kind of boggling.

(51:45):
But I think as you get older, you just become
you become a little bit more okay with just existing.
Like I think when you're young, you're afraid of what
your life is going to turn out like. And then
the more of your life that you unravel, especially if
you know, especially if like listen, especially if you've gotten

(52:07):
to do cool things like go teach English in Spain
for a year, and you've made the jump at a
young age to achieve a lot of your dreams. And
you've you've done a lot of those things. You kind
of like, uh stop, you know, like I'm not gonna
say stop caring, but you, yeah, you stop caring. You

(52:28):
stop getting like stressed out. Uh. So enjoy enjoy the freedom,
honestly is what I would say. Take it in. Really realize.
When you're young, you think that you're gonna like discover
some amazing you're gonna live some amazing dream that's gonna
lead to your infinite ascension beyond your human form, and

(52:53):
you're gonna be amazing forever. Uh And I don't know,
I don't think that happened even if you do reach
those dreams. So maybe what's happening for you is that
you've achieved your dreams already and you realize that they
don't allow you to ascend. So you're just like living
normal human being life, which, let me tell you, sir,

(53:17):
is more than an honor of a thing to get
to do. I'll say that much. Okay, this is from
Connor subject line twenty eight. And my parents got a divorce. Hey, Lyle,
my parents recently got divorced and I'm stuck in the middle.
To keep a long story somewhat short. My dad has

(53:38):
been an asshole to my mom for years, while keeping
it hidden from everyone. He's controlling, threatened, physical violence, and
generally just been mean. My mom finally had enough, filed
for divorce and moved far away. We are all so
proud of her. He has refused to take any responsibility
and is blindsided that she'd ever leave. He blames everything

(54:01):
on outside forces, Like the literal devil. He's been extremely
controlling and can't handle when things are out of his control.
He'll call me bawling, asking why she left him, and
genuinely doesn't understand what he did wrong. The hardest part
is my mom still wants to be there for him
even after everything. She understands why I've pulled away, but

(54:22):
asks me to help him and not cut him off completely.
I could go into more detail about things he's done,
but I don't want this email to get too long.
Just know he's not the nicest guy. My wife and
many of my friends think I should cut him off completely.
I would like to cut him out of my life
as I like to focus on raising my daughter, but

(54:43):
it's difficult because no matter how much I want to
hate him for everything he's done. He's still my dad.
It leaves me feeling like, no matter what I do,
I'm letting someone down. I know some listeners probably have
more experience hating a parent, but this is new to me.
Hope all this makes some kind of sense. Thank you
for reading and being Gecko on the internet. Ooh man, Yeah,

(55:09):
that's very tough. I mean, I'm I'm I'm so sorry, Connor.
I don't know if I have any uh I don't.
I don't really have good advice for this one. I
would just say that uh hmm, you know it's up
to you. I mean, you don't have why why, I
guess do you have to? Here's here's actually what I
would What I would say is do you have to

(55:32):
fully fully cut him off? Or can you just be like, listen,
you can be in my life, but like I'm setting
boundaries and you gotta like like we can talk occasionally,
but like you can't call me every day and you
can't I can't talk to you every day. That's what
I would do. I think if if I were you, Connor,

(55:53):
not that I whatever. Yeah, that's what I That's what
I think I would do. Is I. I think you
you don't really need to. This doesn't need to be
like an all or nothing thing if it pains you
to cut off your dad, but I think setting some
kind of boundary such that he's not like fully taking

(56:15):
up one hundred percent of your time and energy, like,
don't let don't set make Here's what I'd say, Set
a finite amount of energy that you're willing to dedicate
towards that relationship, and do not let that finite amount
of energy be drained past its finiteness in any small way.

(56:42):
Don't do that, but make sure you because if you
don't set an amount of energy, it's going to just
drain infinitely. So you don't have to fully cut him
off if that doesn't feel right to you, but you
also can't let him infinitely drain your energy. So you know,
I think you just kind of need more defined boundaries
on that. Okay, let's see. This is from Rachel subject

(57:08):
line little things are truly life's joy, Hi gek. I
don't really have anything of super importance or lore material
to share, but one time I was having a really
bad week and I was just bummed out for an
entire day. I was working that day, and when I left,
there was this huge white dog on a walk and

(57:29):
it was rolling in the grass, and it brought me
so much joy. I feel like life is truly comprised
of the simple things that can bring you so much happiness,
even if it's a dog rolling in grass or having
someone let you merge in front of them. Anyways, which
ice cream flavor is the best? I'm lactose intolerant, but
I really like ice cream. Rachel, Uh, Yeah, I agree. Man.

(57:53):
I don't want to get all like a fucking wholesome
dogg o on here, but uh, I do like looking
at dogs. It makes me very happy to look at dogs.
You know this happens to me too. Yeah. I'll walk
around and if I see like a little sheba or
a big fucking white dog or a nice dog, I'll
look at it and be like, it's a good dog.

(58:14):
This is why we like dog because dogs are pure.
They have no evil in them. They don't have the
capacity to make decisions that we do, and so they're helpless,
beautiful creatures, and for some reason they make us happy
to look at I don't know what the psychology is
behind that, but I'm gonna go ahead and say that

(58:35):
my favorite ice cream flavor lately has been the peanut
butter some'mores flavor of Ben and Jerry's. It's insane. It's
got like a marshmallow ice cream base with marshmallows, Graham cracker,
and peanut butter cups. Fuck am I gonna get one
right after I'm done recording this. This is from Andrew.

(58:58):
Subject line, I have a seething hatred of iPad babies. Hi, Lyle,
I am Andrew, and I have a very strong distaste
for seeing kids with touchscreen tablets and ore phones. I'm
not talking about teenagers with cell phones. I mean actual
toddlers with devices at such a young age. It fills

(59:20):
me with an anger that feels only slightly irrational. But
the more I dig into the thought of it, it
only makes me angrier. I'll give some context behind my feelings.
I have two younger sisters, both of whom I don't
live with anymore, and they are obsessed with their tablets.
They are both on the autism spectrum and have their
own developmental problems. I don't remember specifics on how, but

(59:43):
the oldest of them was eventually given her own Amazon
Fire Kid's tablet She was very prone to wrecking them,
and eventually we had to get back ups to prevent meltdowns.
She eventually discovered that we had more than one tablet
in the house and she lost her lid, having meltdowns
if she didn't have more more than one at a
time and not understanding that they had to be charged

(01:00:04):
to work. It was a constant chore and struggle to
keep them all decently charged without swiping them away. She
would sit there with like three of them surrounding her,
all playing different shit at once, slot from YouTube, PBS, kids, etc.
This site bothered me to my core. Our one on
one interactions got fewer and fewer as she grew more

(01:00:26):
glued to her devices. She would push us away and
sometimes got violent when we bothered her, so eventually we
got used to giving her more alone time than playtime.
Getting her out of the house is also a struggle.
It's rare that she even goes outside the front door
without two tablets in tow. It's been a couple of
years since I moved out, and the times I visit

(01:00:48):
home and see her, I find it hard to see
any developmental change from when I moved. Always staring at
her screen, hardly paying attention to the rest of the
world around her. I genuinely believe that if she had
never been given that first tablet, she'd be in a
much better place developmentally. Nowadays, when I see young kids
with their nose deep on a screen, it fills me
with a fiery hatred at the parent for not doing

(01:01:11):
better to keep their kids occupied with something in the
real world rather than the digital world. Do you feel
what I'm saying. I'm sure I'm not the only one,
but I'd like to hear your peace on this. I
hope if I have a child, i'd be more engaged
with them more than anything else and teach them one
on one, maybe with a little bit of Sesame Street
on TV, but it'd be better than a phone in
their face. You know, I've been thinking a lot about

(01:01:34):
I don't think I'm gonna have kids anytime soon, but
i'd like to in my life at some point. And
you know, I think about shit like this because it's weird, man.
I mean, I grew up and like my whole thing
when I was a kid, and I don't really I
guess I don't really know how old your sisters are.
I'm gonna guess I'm gonna guess your sisters are like
in middle school age or high school age. Maybe I'll

(01:01:59):
go ahead and got I'll go ahead and assume like
middle school age. But I mean, yeah, when I was
growing up, I was a like video games for my
fucking thing, dude, Like the Game Boy Advance, the GameCube,
the Wei. And you know, I got my first iPhone
when I was like thirteen, and I was playing games
on it and shit, and uh, you know, I turned

(01:02:22):
out okay. And I think actually, even like, you know,
the fact that I had those things is allows me
to kind of be you know, I mean, a lot
of my job and a lot of my life has
been technology based, and I think, you know, it's like

(01:02:43):
it's tricky. All this is to say is that it's tricky, man,
because I also think if I have a kid, i'd
like to you know, I think it would be unrealistic
to say that if I had a kid, I would
completely keep them off of all any things. I think
that it's just like unrealistic. But uh, you gotta have
a conversation, and you gotta like, if it's if things
are getting too crazy, you gotta yeah, I agree, you

(01:03:08):
gotta kind of monitor it. But I don't know. I mean,
I'm talking out of my ass right now. Man, I'm single,
I don't have many kids, so maybe my I'm I'm
curious how my thoughts on this will evolve if I
have a family one day. But yeah, I agree, it's
it's it's weird because we all did grow up with

(01:03:29):
like screens, like you know, uh again, Yeah, I mean
people my age group, the game Boy, the fucking TV
and all that stuff. But it's just so different now
because you like, the shit is so much more stimulating
than it was to just like have a TV. It's
kind of crazy. I mean. Also, I you know, both

(01:03:50):
your sisters being on the autism spectrum, I think is
probably uh, you know, a contributing factor to this. And
I don't know, I mean, maybe it's helpful to them.
I don't know. I'm not like a child's psychologistment whatever,
but I'm sure if I was, I'd probably be like, Yo,
this shit is not good. So I'm with you on that, Andrew,

(01:04:13):
I'm with you on that. Okay, I'm gonna do one
more email. This is from Jason. Subject line profanity. Time
is the only replaceable. Time is the only irreplaceable resource.
Thank you for your time. I have recently found your

(01:04:35):
show on iHeartRadio. I've listened to three episodes. I enjoy
your discourse, but I do not understand the overwhelming use
of profanity. Try using these words as alternative to filth. Okay.
And then this person wrote a list of about thirty
different words that they suggest me use besides words like

(01:05:00):
hunt and dog, fucker and lizard tits. But I'm not
going to read any of the any of these words. Okay,
I'll read a couple of them. Zoincs, jeepers, great, Scott. Yeah,

(01:05:20):
this person wrote just like a whole list of these words.
But I like cunting, shitting, dog fucker better than these words.
But I appreciate the sentiment that you shared. Jason, thank you,
Thank you very much for your feedback, and thank you
for listening to the show. That's it for gek mal folks.
I hope you guys had a good time. I hope

(01:05:41):
you enjoyed it. I'm working on a bunch of stuff
right now. Man. You know I'm making one. This is
kind of the the Gecko. Where the Gecko arc is
in my life right now? Is that I am like
steadfast focused on making one documentary month. I'm working right

(01:06:04):
now on my documentary of the Gathering of the Juggalos.
I have a crazy trip planned in two weeks to
go to a very interesting place and talk to people
as a get go. I'm not gonna say where it
is yet, but you guys will find out at the

(01:06:25):
end of October when I get that video finished. But yeah,
that's what I'm working on. So I'm trying to make
one solid documentary a month. Please go check out the
three that I've made so far. They're all on my
YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Lyle Forever. I might
change the name of that soon. Yeah, that's what's going

(01:06:51):
on in my life. I'm just trying to make these documentaries.
I think you guys will like them. I'm trying to
evolve this thing into, like you know, making more videos
on the ground in the world, and I hope you
guys like them. I always take them and I put
them on this podcast feed. I just put on my
Existential Lizard video and my Dance Battle in Tijuana video,

(01:07:13):
and I'll be putting on the Gathering of the Juggalos
video and this next secret one that I'm very excited about.
But that's it. Thanks for listening to this podcast, Thanks
for being here. If you want to be on the
next gek Mail, send an email to Therapy Geckomail at
gmail dot com. If you want to call into the podcast.
I know it's a little bit confusing as to how,

(01:07:36):
but the way I do it is that I go
on I go live on twitch dot tv, slash lyle forever,
and whoever fucking joins and calls at whatever time. I
don't have a stream schedule anymore, I haven't for a while.
I just kind of go randomly when I you know,
I make sure I put out two of these podcasts
a month. I mean a week. I'll put out two
of these podcasts a week. I've been doing that for

(01:07:58):
years and I just kind of go live to make
them whenever I have time. So go to Twitch dot tv,
slash lyle forever, follow me, and make sure that you
have notifications enabled for when I go live, and then
whenever I go live, you'll get a notification and then
you'll find out when you can call me to take
the phone call. So that's the main way to call

(01:08:19):
into the show. Other than that, I'll be back on
Sunday with another episode of this show. My name is Lyle,
I'm a gecko. Thank you for listening, thank you for
supporting the show, and I'll see you guys around the universe. Bye.
Everyone goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

(01:08:44):
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