“I WANT A SUBMISSIVE MAN”

A caller tries to find a macho man to peg, a caller tells his journey of quitting alcohol, a caller combats a yeast infection, and we read viewer mail.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hello, what's your name?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Olivia. Is this Lyle?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Lyle? What's going on? Olivia?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Has life? Life is done? Kind of ship right now,
but you know, it's my day off and I've just
been chilling, so I can't really complain too much tell you.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Sorry, Oh I'm okay. Why has it been ship?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Dating men is hard? And no man, no man that
I've met is down for the sexual things that I
want to do in the little block.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
But we can we can certainly talk about that. We
can certainly talk about that. That's what you would rather
talk about. It's up to you.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Sorry, I genuinely just feel so call off guard.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I called you like.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't even know how many times.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Damn are you? Are you crying right now? Are you sick?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm done. I'm done crying.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Were crying. Okay were you crying before you called?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, yeah, okay, all right? So, so what's going on
with these uh these men?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I am into pegging and I just moved down to
the valley from Utah and I have been having such
a hard time like finding a guy who isn't just
automatically like, oh, no, what the fuck, Like that's that's

(01:55):
gay bla blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I would never.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
And it's just been annoying and I don't understand why,
like at least the men down down here just are
open to that, or like I don't know where to
find men that are.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Open to that.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Where have you been looking for these men?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, I mean I've just been on the basic dating apps.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, if you're you're going to get the basic men, well.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I tried like set Life, and that's creepy and they're
scary kind of and like I don't they're just like
too too much, like oh you want to peg me,
you could diss me too, And I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa,
w wholla, hunt the brakes. I just want to be
on top a little bit, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
So you've tried. So you've tried. So you've tried fet Life.
What about that Field Field. I think it's like an
F E L E L D. I've never been on it,
but I have friends who've talked about it as like

(03:14):
a like a kink kind of a dating app.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Hmm, yeah, I'll try it. The only success I've had
was on speaking with like the sugar daddies, but that's
not really I'm looking for. I don't know. I guess
like a I'm not a partner like a boyfriend or whatever,

(03:40):
but kind of like a more reliable fuck with buddy
that because like, I'm so tired of trying to meet
new people every time. I just want to, you know,
but then again it's so hard. Like I met guy
and he was super cool and he literally talked about

(04:03):
like being a stuff on Tinder, and I went to
his place and he had all this like navy stuff
and like he was in the Navy, and I made
them the joke and I was like, oh, is that
why you're down to be picked because you're in the navy?
And he kicked me out.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So that was on me trying to no, no, no, no, no,
that that's that's so lame. What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I kind of hit a little too close to home,
I guess why.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
First of all. First of all, I mean, I wait,
hold on, were you were you making a joke insulting
the navy or were you making like a dad joke
of like, oh, you're in the navy, that's why you
like to be a sub like a submarine.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, I was insulting the Navy.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Oh okay, I thought, you're making a dad joke.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, no, And I only say that because I was
engaged to a man who has been in the Navy
for the last twelve years, so I feel like I
kind of can. But also that's a little out of
pocket or whatever. He did not like it. He immediately

(05:21):
he was tired, and I had to.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Go, what was your relationship like with the other navy guy?
Was he also a sub.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Maybe a little bit like he was down to like
do stuff in the shower and like he would like
to get his ass fingered every once in a while,
you know, like nothening him head and stuff. But that
was really it. I loved him. I really was so

(05:57):
serious about marrying him and starting a family, and we
picked out a ring and all that. But he decided
to sign another five year contract without talking to me
about it. And we had already made plans about like
babies and just like settling down and him starting school.

(06:18):
So I was like, yeah, I'm not going to start
a marriage when he's just already lying on huge like
decisions like that.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
So when you're meeting the guys on like the regular
dating apps, how how soon do you bring up the
pegging conversation?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean not right away, probably like a second or
third hangout type of thing, for sure. It's it's hard,
Like sometimes I haven't even brought it up and I
just could feel that he's not going to be down.
And it's not like that huge of a deal, but
I mean it is something like I want to like

(07:08):
take turns, like going like topping each other. I think
that's hot and that's something that I'm looking for. It
just feels so weird to be like just go up
and ask that, Like I don't know how to even start,
Like what do you think? How would you go about that?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well? Well, I don't know. I use it. I think
like on the I from my perspective, like if you're
a woman on a dating app, like if you start
talking about like if you're a guy on a dating
app and you start talking about sex immediately, that's of
course like, uh, you know, an immediate red flag, right.

(07:50):
But I think if you're a woman on a dating
app and you like put in your bio or something,
I am looking for a man to peg, like obviously
it's gonna it's gonna all the people. It's you're you're right,
it's going to attract all of the wrong type of people.
I one hundred percent agree with you, but it but
if you filter out all those people, you'll at least,

(08:11):
like I think, with it, there'll be like a needle
in a haystack pretty much right because of all the
like weird people that that will attract at least one
of them. You'll be like, all right, this person seems
like a relatively normal human being.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
That's fair. Yeah, that's a tactic, I guess. But I
also don't want my space and like my name out
there with like what if a co worker or like
someone saw like I don't want that everyone to know that.
I want pigment and like I'm looking for like masculine
men like I. The man who got me into it

(08:50):
is like very he's like a bodybuilder, bisexual, Greek goddess,
sculpted type man who just likes being a switch. And
now I feel like I can't there's no way to
find that again. I don't know how.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You could attend bodybuilding competitions.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Bodybuilding is yeah, you know that's not a bad idea,
A good h.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
How did how did this well? How did you meet?
How did you first meet this like bodybuilder guy.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It was during COVID up in Salt Lake, just on Tinder.
He just happened to be one of the first few
people I matched with when I moved up there, and
he FACETI me right away and came and picked me
up and was super cool and I ended up moving
in with him really quick, and like we had a
little poly relationship for a bit and it was fun

(09:58):
and yeah, just tender, but tender down here in the
valley is like, these men are weird, Like I don't know,
maybe I'm just not matching with the right people.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
What is it that you find so weird about them?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Every they're just like homophobic, Like they think that a
woman having sex with the women is gay, even if
it is.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Like, yeah, I was gonna say a woman having sex
with a woman is definitely gay.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
So they think, I don't know, maybe being pegged by
a woman is quote unquote gay to some people, but
like it still is like you're not having sex with
the man, you're still like it is still heterosexual. I

(11:00):
don't understand. And I guess people the men up in
Utah are a little more open, open minded mm hmmm,
and people down here.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Why as you move to the valley.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Family, My family's just been going through a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Mm hmm. How often are you like going on dates
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Lately, maybe like two or three a month. And I've
been talking to a lot of people, but like I
feel like they just always fizzle out over the you know,
dms on apps or texts.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
So I don't know, it's I feel like my I'm
trying too hard to find like a certain type of
like it's hard to match. Like, yeah, I don't even know.
I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry, Gek,

(12:16):
I feel like I'm being really bad conversational with right now.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, I was going to say, well, you live in like,
uh kind of a rural area, so you're not going
to have a lot of you know. I mean, if
you moved to to like if you were in like
New York or LA or Chicago, you'd be able to
find a guy that will let you peg him within seconds.
But the Valley is not the best place to find that.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
No, I'm yeah, I'm realizing that I might just go
back to dating women because like I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Mhm. I mean that's not such a horrible idea. Yeah,
find a woman that I'll let you peg them.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Oh yeah, I have like five in my right now.
It's just more of the challenge of and and like
the it's just so hot to like top a a man,
like a masculine man.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well, look at it like this. It's uh, well look
at look at look at it like this. It's uh,
it's good to it's good to yearn I think I
think it's good to have something that you're yearning for,
because if you're yearning for nothing, you might as well
be dead. So so so I almost think that you
having this uh fantasy that one day you'll find a

(13:39):
masculine man that will bend over and let you fuck
him in the ass. It's almost it's almost a better
thing for you to have than actually having it. You know,
it keeps you going, keeps you hunting. So look at
it like that.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I like that outlook, Thank you, Dick.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
What's your name again?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Presley?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Presley? Presley? Is there anything else you want to say?
It's the people of the computer.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Before we go, I love y'all, and stay freaky beautiful.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Thank you, Presley. I have a good night.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
By you.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Hello, Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Is this Lyle?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
It is? Who is this?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Oh? Hey man, I'm gonna go by David.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
David. What's going on, David? How's your evening going?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
My evening is going pretty good. I got called off
of my part time job, so I have the evening
to just show at home with my pet. You can
hear her now. And I'm watching that new show with
Tim Robinson, The Chair Company. Pretty good. How about you?

(14:58):
How's your night going?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's gone all right. I am recording my podcast. I'm
thinking about my life too much. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm
thinking about my life too much. I think life is
better when I'm like I don't think I'm happiest when
i'm thinking. I don't think anyone is happiest when they're.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Why do you think that?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, because I think life is meant to be like
lived and experienced and like you're you're supposed to be
around people, and you're supposed to be doing things that
get you out of your brain. And I think certain things,
in certain situations and environments and whatnot, they put you
back into your brain. And that's not good. That's why,

(15:45):
I mean, that's why I get addicted to things. That's
why like fucking sex and porn and all that STUFFE
is so addictive. That's why alcohol is addictive. That's why
totally risky behavior is addictive. You know, just just anything
to anything to take you away from uh. I mean,

(16:08):
you know there's like distractions. Yeah, there's some people who
say things like, oh, well, it's all I'm a fan
of good distractions, because there's some people who say shit like, well,
if you have any distractions, you're taking yourself away from
being able to think about your own life, which is bad.
But I think all of I mean, isn't everything. Just

(16:30):
like everything is either some means of survival or some
means of taking you out of your own brain. And
it's just that you you ideally are doing things to
take you out of your own brain that are healthy
and not bad in a real world. But you're always

(16:50):
gonna do the easiest thing, and the easiest thing is
usually as something fucking bad.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
So oh man, yeah, we are. We are pretty inclined
to gravitude to where it's what makes things just a
little bit easier in our day to day for sure. Yeah,
I've I found like this year in particular, it has
been pretty monumental for myself in terms of like kind
of making like hard decisions. And I got to say,

(17:16):
like where I'm at right now, Like I feel really
good about myself and where I'm at, and like I
feel like super inspired to just keep dealing with other changes.
Like I quit drinking back in February for good. So
that was huge, and it's had monumental effects on my

(17:38):
life and the people around me, the people closest to me,
you know, work, my health, you know, and being inspired
by that like pushed me to like exercise more, eat healthier.
And then like it almost felt like you know, like uh,
you know when you push over like dominant.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
And then like after that, I started looking at other
things in my life, like, dude, it's so crazy, like
quitting alcohol, Like I I also go to therapy, So
I've been talking with her like weekly about like all
this stuff like over this whole year, and like I

(18:23):
found that like I was probably using alcohol to like
cover up like these pretty obvious like ADHD symptoms, and
I feel like I was using it to like kind
of like quiet my mind. And I felt like I
could only like socialize when I was drinking, and it

(18:46):
just created this like problem, this problem for me that
I was hard to like face, but like because I
didn't think that was a huge deal, like because I
was still functional, but like I wasn't doing the things
that I wanted to do. And once I quit doing that,
like I started realizing, oh, maybe maybe I have some

(19:09):
some some things I need to address, like with my mind.
So I set up a screening for ADHD through therapy
that I got put on a waiting list, So it's
going to be in like a month or so. But
you know, it's things that I'm getting, the things that
I wouldn't have done had I not like done this
initial thing. And since then, like I quit vaping, which

(19:32):
is big, and then you know, I took my first
like tolerance break from THHC in years, like since I
first started smoking, like sixteen years ago, dude.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Like.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
You know, and just understanding like how how that makes
me feel different? You know, And the other thing just recently, Man,
I just had listened to your podcast the other day
when you were talking to somebody. I think the topic
was like about like you know, just getting sucked into
like the algorithms and the media. And I quit. I

(20:10):
didn't really use social media that much to begin with.
Like I never got TikTok. I always thought that stuff.
I always thought it was so cringe. And I never bothered
with Twitter either. It always just seemed weird that you
would just quit all your thoughts out like that. But
I got into like Instagram and that was like my
poison and read it too. And then I I got

(20:33):
Instagram off of my phone, moved it to my iPad,
my shitty iPad that like freezes all the time, so
I only check it here and there, and then I
before I like fully deleted read it. I would just
periodically delete it from my phone and then I'd find
myself on the toilet board and so I had downloaded
again and I hadn't been on it for a while,

(20:54):
and then I'd log into it and then this, oh
my god, just all this stress just flooding back to me.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
And.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Then I and then it would be like fifteen minutes
of that, I turn it off and delete the app
and get back to just like my world, but like remembering,
just like how I was just so consumed with that,
Like from the moment I waked, I woke up, check
read it, check read it. Throughout the day all the

(21:24):
way into the evening and it's just pumping out like
so much stress and controversy, and it just wasn't good
for me. But like, just like recently, I like posted
like how fascist should die and then I got a
three day ban so I was like fuck this and
deleted it, and I feel really good since then. But

(21:48):
like something I've been talking about with my therapist has
just been like you know, and I talk with my
buddy all the time about like how stressful like the
way of the world feels like on a day to
day basis, right, And it's like, you know, like you said,
like it things have been happening all the time, and
things always have been and things always will whether and

(22:11):
just now we have these devices that make us aware
of like everything at every corner of the globe at
all hours of the day, and so it's just like
I don't think we're built to handle that. And so
I feel so much better just tuning out of it,
because like no matter what, you know, like you know,
I'm not going to change anything, Like I mean, I'm

(22:34):
going to change. I'm going to change what I can,
and what I can is in like my you know,
my general orbit, and so like when I just focus
on like my world, then like it's a lot more
like manageable. And I feel like, you know, if people
kind of tune out a bit here and there, you know,
it's it's like a huge breath of fresh air. I

(22:57):
don't know, like if you've tried like doing that like recently,
like I don't, I only follow you like here and
there on like the podcast, but like if you have
like times where you just like completely disconnect and just
like just do human things.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's funny that you say that because I've been I've
been procrastinating on it a little bit, but I want
to fully disconnect from technology. I think my problem is
I don't right now, like I don't. I can't think
of anything that I well, I guess I can't. Like there,

(23:35):
I was going to say, like I couldn't think of
anything more pressing that I can do with that time,
but I totally can. I mean, yeah, so many things
like subtly suck up my time.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, I mean I mean, like you initially like mentioned
like you know, not being able to like sit in
your thoughts, and like I gotta say, you know, like
one of the other things that like you know has
been very, very like monumental. This year has been like
a lot of times sitting in my thoughts, like I live,

(24:07):
I live a pretty like kind of I'm pretty like
by myself all the time. And that's like by design,
Like I work a lot, and the friends that like
I feel closest to they live in like another city,
so I only set times to see them here and there.
So it's really just like me and like my close
family here and there, and like my cat. But like

(24:32):
I've had like you know, I like, you know, coming
off of quitting drinking. Yeah, like the views of myself
were just so low, Like I just did not think
really positively of myself because I just wasn't doing good
things for myself for so long and through like therapy
and just like moments just sitting at home by myself,

(24:56):
just like literally just asking myself, like why don't you
like yourself? Like why don't you know just start there
and then just trying to like backtrack and figure this
stuff out and then you know, eventually just get to like,
you know, why don't you love yourself? And just recently
I went on a trip with my best bud out

(25:16):
to the bad Lands in South Dakota and just had
a completely like life changing experience. You know. It was
set like therapy out there with him, just like out
in nature, just connecting, and we did we did bring
some mushrooms, so that definitely helped. Like going on these
hikes and like eating mushians out there. It just felt

(25:38):
like a really really crazy experience, like like we were
opening up our minds and also like connecting with the
earth at the same time. But like you know, just
the whole time, just getting really deep into the headspace.
And I remember like there was this moment out there
when I was like walking out into like these like

(26:01):
sunpatched like portions of the bad Lands on this hike,
you know, before you enter these like prayer, these rolling
prairies and just taking this like top moment like kind
of sit there and like admire like absolutely everything about
what's around me, and like right of you know, looking

(26:22):
at the mountains and the horizon all the way down
to the rocks on the ground, like everything had had
a way like it, how do I put it, Everything
stood out amongst each other in such an odd way,
like everything was just contrasting one another in such an
obscure fashion, like I'd never seen, and being out there,

(26:45):
I almost saw myself like as like one of those
things that just kind of stood out and it made
it shifted my perspective of myself into a way where
you know, I kind of thought, you know, it's okay
to just be like weird and unique and whatever, and
it's okay to like express yourself. And I've hide that

(27:07):
and I was just out there just getting like deep
in my head and like coming out of that like trip,
like I ended up finally being able to tell myself
that I love myself. And you know, I also didn't
have read it the entire time, so I was just
like Kain. I was just immersed now no phone, just
out there with my bud, listen to music, going on hikes,

(27:32):
and it just was really really really rewarding. And I
feel like I need more of that stuff, like definitely
protect our parks.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I yeah, I've been saying that I want to
do that for a while, Like get off of all
social media and get off of like like dating apps,
and get off of like all these fucking things. They
just take up little bits of time and attention and whatnot.
And yeah, I need to do that. I have a friend,

(28:04):
well you know, I mean he's like he was also
on a bit of a technology fast and he seems
a lot more grounded as a results, And I feel
like I feel like I could get there. I feel

(28:25):
like I always feel like I never have enough time
or enough energy to tackle the things that I really
want to tackle. But there always seems to be enough
time and energy to do random crap. You know, it's
so easy to get distracted.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, it's all these distractions, man. I mean, I gotta
say one of the things that really helped like me
initially was just like finding an old piece of like
junk hardware. Like I have this old iPad and I
just like moved move my shit there, so at least
getting it off your phone, you know, and put it
onto a device that like you can still access it's
still available, but you know, just at home, and it

(29:05):
may be a little clunky, so you might get frustrated
with it, so you'll put it down and maybe do
something else. I don't know, but like, you know, just
like you said the other day, like this stuff is
manufactured like to buy design to like frustrate us and
like divide us and distract us. And you know, one
of the things that I thought was like really interesting,

(29:27):
like coming out of like one of these hikes out
in the bad Lands. My buddy and I stopped at
this restaurant out in Rapid City and we sat down
for some uh for some chicken alfredo at the at
the bar. And we're sitting there and then over to
our right, a few chairs down there was just this,
uh there's this older couple that was chatting it up

(29:49):
with all the older folks around them, and they were
very clearly like jumpers, like you know, they're like the
stuff that was coming out of their mouth was just
like kind of absurd, but like, you know, they they
turned over to us, and I look Hispanic and my buddy,
you know, he doesn't look like keeps from around there either,

(30:11):
and you know, they just we struck up a conversation
and just shot the We just shot the shit. And
you know it was like, you know, when you remove
that like element, you know, it's a lot easier to
come together. I feel like like I feel like, have
you ever seen this this hilarious video of like these

(30:31):
two dogs just like going at it, like and there's
this fence and and and they're like going at each other,
like with the fence in the way, and then the
guy moves the fence aside, and suddenly the dogs are
just like, you know, like whatever, you know, and then
he puts the fence back, and then they're going at
it again. And I feel like that fence is really
like the algorithm, dude, and it's we just gotta find

(30:57):
a way to at least recognize it for what it
is and figure out a way to just you know,
not let it get the better of us, you know.
And I'm only touching on a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's so I was thinking about this the other day,
Like I talked to so many people on this podcast,
and you know, in doing like the live shows and
in doing you know, on the street and stuff, and
like everyone that I've talked to from doing this, like
ninety nine point nine ninety nine percent of people are

(31:33):
like cordial and like, you know, easy to talk to
and like like they're all like good experiences. Right. But
then I see comments. I see comments on like Instagram right,
and on like spy and on YouTube where people are
like stupid and hostile and judge and all these different things,

(31:59):
and I'm like and also just living my life I
meet people out and about, and I'm like, theoretically, these
are the same people, So like, what the fuck is
it that is making people so like.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Dude, I don't know, but like, you know, you remember
you remember South Park that one season that focused on
like Kyle's dad is skankant. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Is, dude.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
And it's and it's but but there's a part of
it where it's like, you know, I I've never felt like,
you know, like some inclination to like act like a
penis online, you know, like behind behind like some like mask.
But so many people feel like so I don't know,
like emboldened to just be a penis online and and

(32:56):
I don't get it. And and I'm sure like if
if it was like those to their wives or their
their bosses or their children or whatever, I'm sure they'd
be fucking embarrassed. But like what, like, I don't know,
there's there's some other part of it too, Like it's
something I don't understand, Like I don't surround myself with

(33:18):
people that act like that, but like it's it's it's odd,
it's odd behavior.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So okay, now that you're enlightened, in your life? What
do you what do you do?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I wouldn't say like I'm enlightened, I just know. I
just would say I feel I feel more, I feel better.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
So what do you What does your day to day
look like? Now?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Oh well, I've got so my main job, I work
in a research lab and I uh, I help take
care of the mice. So that's like basic, like just
seven does to be thirty every day. And then I
had a part time job where I'm a server at
a restaurant. But now that the season's over, that's a

(34:06):
little bit more sparse. So I mean before I was
doing like sixty seventy hours a week, but now it's
like pretty pretty open here and there. I'll do some
landscaping stuff with my brother's dad with my plants around

(34:26):
the city. But right now I'm just kind of cooling
it and trying to pinch the pennies until it gets
warmer again. I do have a few trips lined up.
I'm going to see my grandmother in Virginia for her
birthday this weekend, and I'm going to Washington Island with
my buddies next week, and then going to see my

(34:46):
cousin in Minneapolis. The week after that, So I'm getting
out there moving around.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah that all sounds great.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, what about you or do you have any big,
big trips coming up? Saw, I think I saw something
really you went somewhere very interesting recently.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was in Iraq. I still haven't I
still haven't finished the uh the video for that, but
that'll I'm hoping to post that video before November ends.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
So can I ask like what prompted like that? That's
such an interesting like choice of location, Like what prompted
you to want to go out there?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh it's kind of bored.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Okay, Yeah, I love that. Just bored in Iraq?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, that is what happens, is like I'm just I'm
so I'm just like restless and I have to do
I feel and I have this thing in my gut
where it's like I have to do grand exciting things
with my life or else I just feel like I'm dying.
It's it's it's just a thing I've always had. It's
the thing I've always had and it and it bites

(35:55):
me in the fucking tits. But it's just a thing
I have. And so often like the easiest, this is
the most the most logistically simple way to achieve that
is to travel to places, because you know, all you
have to do yes, like like for example, right, like

(36:18):
if you like, if I want to do a big, grand,
cool thing and I have to choose between like writing
a book or traveling to Iraq, it's gonna be easier
to like, I can do the emotional I can do
like the emotional whatever it is of like going on
that adventure way way more than I can do the

(36:40):
the work of like sitting alone in a room trying
to write just get restless. It's adhd.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I like that ship, you know. I mean also I
like doing things that like uh, you know, I getting
to go there and like connect with people and like
see the place and you know it's it was. It
was really cool. I don't know if I have like
other I have other places I want to go. I
don't know if I have other like big crazy adventures.

(37:12):
But yeah, and then I'm going to Canada November sixth.
I'm doing a show November sixth, I'm doing a show
in Edmonton at Macewell.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Then on then on the east or west or side
of Canada. I forget.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I want to say. It's in the middle, right right in.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
The middle for sure. Okay. Nice. You know, like, if
I ever get myself at the Canada with something I've
always wanted to do is take their their train from
coast to coast. That sounds sounds like a lot of fun.
I'm trying to trying to do an Amtrak ride from
where I'm at out out to Alway sometime soon and

(37:51):
rent like a room met for like the forty six
hours you're on it. But that's a little a little
little pricey at the moment.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
David, it was nice talking to you about life. This
was this felt like a classic heady talking about life thing.
I feel like, yeah, you've inspired me to take a
little bit of a chill pill perhaps.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Even if it's just for a few days, Like it
just feels good to just like just you know, just
sitn't stare at a wall or something. David, don't don't think.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer before we go.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, I guess drink water, call your mom and say
some gratitudes in the mornings.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Beautiful. Thank you very much for calling, David.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Take care, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
YouTube. Bye, Hello, what's up? How you doing? How's life
is this?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Lyle?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
This is who is this? Who is this? Who is this?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I said, my name is Brooke. It's a fake name,
but it's Brooke.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
How's life going, Brooke?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Let's see it's okay. I I don't know if I
should like it's kind of gross, but I just got
a yeast infection for the first time, and I don't know. Yeah,
I don't. I've never experienced this and I have to
go to work in like an hour. The shit sucks.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
U What is what are the symptoms of the yeast infection?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
It's gross. It's like the classics, like you know, discharge.
I don't know if you know much about that?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Tell me. I mean, I mean, uh, like, are there
can you wear? Like put on a tampon and it
makes it not happen, It makes it happen less.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
That would be such an easy solution. I wish there
is like an over the counter medication that I bought today,
so got to try that out. But you have to. Yeah,
it's kind of like a tampon. You put medication in
your vagina and you like sleep with that in and
it goes away in like three days. But yeah, for

(40:35):
next three days, I'm gonna be like in pains, but
I'm really not trying to focus on that, trying to
stay positive.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Okay, maybe we could talk about something else and it'll
distract you from the East infection.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Actually, let's see, I'm moving and let's see like ten
days to a mountain town. It's a mountaintown in Colorado.
It's a ski town, and I'm stoked. Wow, Okay, this Sorry,

(41:16):
we talked like a long time ago, so it's just
like so funny to be talking to you again. We
talked like three years ago about some stupid shit, but
I'm a changed woman and I'm an adult now. I
feel like the last time I called you, I think
I was like inebriated. I don't remember exactly what we

(41:37):
talked about, but it's good to talk to you again.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Okay, I'm glad that you're doing better. What's changed in
your life since then?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Let's see, I graduated college, got a corporate ass dumb
ass jobs for I had that job for like seven
months and it was a really good paying job, like
within my industry that I studied, and then like I

(42:08):
fucking hated it.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I actually think I texted you about this, but I
think this is something I wanted to talk about with you.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Like industry. I was a graphic designer for an environmental
engineering firm, and graphic design is like that's what I
studied in school, and it's just turned into this like
horrible thing I hate. Like I quit the corporate job,
I got started freelancing. I got some gigs within the

(42:42):
music industry, which was super exciting and fun at first.
Then like as time went on, I'm realizing how fucked
up the music industry is, and like everybody is. It's
just all fucked up, and it's made me despise graphic design.

(43:03):
And that's part of the reason why I'm moving to
Steamboat is because or probably shouldn't have disclosed the area
where I'm moving, but moving to a ski town because yeah,
I'm pretty sick of trying to do the grind, the
grind mindset and like the whole I don't know, graphic
design is just stupid. I'm over it. I fucking hate it.

(43:27):
It's like, yeah, I feel like I've been on every
single side of it, like publication to illustration to branding
to merchandise design, Like I've done so much in the
past three years since I graduated college and and yeah,
I guess I'm just trying to escape and try something new,
move to a ski town, see how that works out.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Okay, okay, okay, what do you What are your plans
in the ski toown? Are you gonna get an the job?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah? I have. So I quit doing design full time
eight months ago, and I was doing it part time
throughout this summer, but I just took my last project
last month. I'm swearing off any freelance. So in that meantime,
I've had like a part time restaurant job serving tables,

(44:27):
and so I'll be doing that up at this at
the ski town and then working part time at the
resort as well. And I've got those locked in, So
I'm stoked about that.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's pretty sweet. That sounds like a nice fun job.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Like serving at a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, it'll be fun because, like I mean, I'm assuming
it'll be really good money because all of these tourists
coming and visiting the town and trying to spend a
bunch of money on good food on their vacation. I
feel like it'll be it'll be good for me.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Do you like Yeah, yeah, I'm hoping. So, I mean,
it's expensive, it's fuck to live there, so I better
be making good tips or else I can't live there.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
What were you going to say?

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I was gonna say, like, I, you know what you
said so many things in the previous calls that I
wanted to bring up. Sure, fuck, what did you say?
You said something that really resonates? Oh my god, I'm
I'm blinking anything.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Anything you can vaguely remember about it, we can remember
it together.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
It was like the guy who's talking about social media,
he was you were saying, how that you you delete
or you haven't deleted social media? But you you don't
really seem like a slave to it, Like you don't
seem addicted to it.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I don't seem addicted to it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Is that what you said? No?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Uh no, no, no no, I'm definitely addicted to it.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Oh oh oh, but you but you like want to
change that or like yeah, because I I what he
was talking about putting like Instagram on his old iPad
is something that I have tried out. I put it.
I just have it on my desktop computer. And that

(46:41):
makes me not want to go on Instagram at all.
I'm not so much addicted to like Reddit or anything
else but Instagram. I'm on like Facebook reels and that
shit sucks. Like I have Facebook on my phone and
sometimes when I'm really craving like that short term addiction
brain rot stuff, like there's no brain rot on there.

(47:03):
It's all like millennial stupid shit. And it really does
help because it's like it makes me snap into the
moments of as like why the fuck am I watching
this Facebook real bullshit? Ye, I would say, like that's
been my solution, just taking it off my phone and
then keeping Facebook to remind me like, oh wait, this

(47:24):
is dumb, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
M oh yeah, okay, So you keep just one social
media to remind you how much you hate social media,
as opposed to checking the revolving door of seven different
social medias to yeah, you know, then remember that you

(47:48):
hate social media. Yeah, it saves a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I think I read it as good for that, because
every time I go on and read it, I'm like, yeah,
I don't need to I don't need to be here.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah, okay, But I'm on Reddit for a lot of
like art stuff, and I like to look at that,
but like Reddit for yeah, Reddit for dumb shit. Yeah,
I get that.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I mean that's how they get you, right, is that
you're on there for one thing and then it attacks
you with all these fucking other things.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Exactly. Like especially Instagram, the algorithm, it's like it's so good.
It keeps me going, like I don't know, there's you
know that like picture of like the miner who turns
around like right before the diamonds like that meme.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
No oh wait, yes, yes I do, Yes, I do, Yes,
I do.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
That's how it feels to be scrolling Instagram reels and
it's like I just need to give up at some point,
but I know the next video is going to be
really good.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Well, well it's not exactly like that meme because uh,
there's no you know, I don't really know what diamond
you're searching for, because even if you find a good video,
it's like, well you're gonna keep scrolling.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Wow, that was actually really like I like that. Yeah,
what am I searching for on Instagram reels? Am I
trying to? Like? Sometimes I'm you know, how Instagram added
like the liked by feature so you can see like
the people you follow who like the reels. Yeah, sometimes

(49:25):
I feel like I like have have stopped liking reels
or liking certain reels because I want people to think
that I like that video or like unlike you know
what I'm saying, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
You're trying to like socially signal that you like something exactly.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
And then it's like, well, yeah, like maybe they like
that too, and then maybe I don't fucking know. But
then it's like some things I'm scared to like because
I'm like, oh, this doesn't align with my you know
what I putting out there on Instagram, Like, this doesn't
go with my brand, I guess, which is so stupid.
I'm not like an influencer or anything. And this is

(50:07):
why I deleted this shit because I don't I don't
care about this. I don't know why why would I
even care about that? Why would I care about unliking
shit on Instagram or like what I like? I don't know,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah, it's like, why
would you even care? It doesn't matter, it is it
is no offense, a dumb thing to care about, but
it's yeah's good to understand that it's a dumb thing
to care about, Like like curating your feed and stuff
I think is a fool's errand.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
I yeah, I had this like roommate that really wanted
to be an influencer once and she like it was
like I don't judge. I really like, I really try
not to judge people, but this is something that it
would just be Like she'd be recording us like going
out to eat and being like, come with me to

(51:02):
try a new restaurant in the downtown. I'd be like,
shut up, like literally, what are you doing? You have
ten followers? Like this is so dumb, Like what what
is the point of that? Like the restaurant isn't paying
you to post it? Like you're not getting anything out
of it except for attention and that that's what they
get out of it. Mm hm m hm.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Fuck social media.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, social media kind of success. I mean, I have
it to thank for the career I've been able to
make out of it, but I'd like to not be
on it at all.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Do you have like a social media person that does
all your shit?

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
No, No I don't. It's just me. Well, I should
probably get to get someone. I should probably get someone
to like start doing that shick because I haven't. I
mean I fell off significantly, mainly because I just got
burnt out from like doing all that shit, and I
I had trouble. Yeah, I mainly just got burnt out

(52:06):
from doing all that shit and and I kind of
started feel like I don't even know what the point
of this shit is anymore.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Oh my god, I think I remembered what I was
gonna tell you that. Okay, yes, so this wasn't regarding
the last call, but a few episodes ago. I think
you mentioned, uh, you don't believe that everything happens for
a reason. I think that's fucking stupid. I think everything

(52:39):
does happen for a reason. And I think the whole
like narrative we're on a floating rock, nothing matters, blah
blah blah, that is so dumb. I think that's like
the worst way to approach anything. And I think everything
happens for a reason because it's like I don't know
the proper philoso it's de termed, but like, you know,

(53:01):
the determinism ideal ideology or whatever. Yeah, sure, yeah, I
feel like, would you prescribe.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
To that or.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
I definitely uh secretly subscribe to some form of determinism,
But I want you to I want to hear more
about why you think that's stupid, because you seem like
you have an alternative viewpoint.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I guess I yeah, I wanted to get your perspective
a little bit more solified, But I guess I just
like I just I feel like I've seen a lot
of people in my like interpersonal relationships that are like
life doesn't matter, run a floating reps bucket. I'll go
on that date tonight, I'll go out to this concert Yolo,
you know, like that mentality, and I feel like that

(53:47):
fuels this. It just it creates this. Uh it doesn't
have any roots in reality like it it just has
no legs, Like it's just like a very like the
Yolo mentality is so like you should make choices that
matter because that will affect everything, and that will affect

(54:09):
your future decisions, do you know what I mean? Like
you shouldn't just carelessly make choices because you think it
doesn't matter, because that wouldn't it's probably gonna hurt you
in the long run. Or it's like you're not deciding
anything with your gut or your brain or your heart.
You're basing it all on Like the Yolo mentality you know,
you're basing it in like the present moment, but the

(54:31):
present moment doesn't have like any legs further than that,
you know. But if you decide and make decisions based
like you know, uh practically and like with your brain,
or if you have you make decisions based on feeling
or your gut, at least that's rooted in something, and
it's probably based on some sort of series of subconscious

(54:52):
events that you've occurred to make you choose that decision.
I just feel like the yolo mentality, it's a plague
to our society. I feel like so many people are
are are getting hurt by it. So that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Uh yeah, No, I agree with you. I think that
you're talking about like nihilism, and I think that nihilism is.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
But it's rebranded to be like cool, like the trendy
thing to do.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Well, that's like an what you're talking about is like
an optimistic nihilism.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
But I agree with.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You, I don't. I don't know if I agree with
you necessarily that nihilism isn't rooted in some form of reality,
but I totally agree with you that it's not helpful.
It's not helpful. At all. It's really really not helpful
at all. I don't like it. I don't like determinism.
I don't like nihilism. I yeah, I hate it, and

(55:45):
I hate it. I'd so much rather be Although I
think when you're talking about things like, oh, Yolo, I'll
go on this date and I'll go to this concert whatever,
I think that these are people who are using the
fact that, uh, you know, I mean, I don't think
Yolo is the worst ever motto. I think it's good

(56:07):
to recognize that you know your time. I think it's
good to recognize that your shit is finite and make
decisions based off of that that there is really no future.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, okay, yes, I do agree with that. I think that,
but it is like important that I don't know, I
think it's important to think about like there is a
future and like this does have repercussions, and I don't know,

(56:43):
I feel like it's just kind of it also, like, uh,
what devalues the present moment as well, like or like
you know, devalues everything else around you. It's a little
bit selfish. Also, like the Yelo mentality or the float
We're on a floating rock, so it doesn't matters mentality
I think is like it's just it's not good. It's bad.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
In what way do you think it devalues the present moment,
because because you would argue that that it's sincerely that
it uh values the present moment right a lot.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, yeah, that is like the general argument. But I
do think that, like we're on a floating rock. It's like,
well not to not to get like so woo woo,
but it is like we're on the earth. The earth
is our home. This is like a finite resource we
live on. We can't just like make careless decisions about

(57:43):
this floating rock is very important, and like everybody lives
here and we have to treat this environment, this space,
our community with like more premeditated actions. I think that, like, yeah,
I think that like it devalues the present moment because

(58:04):
in the present moment, we're living on this shared planet,
the shared space, and so it's like my present moment's
more important than anybody else's or like I don't think
that necessarily in the context of going to a concert
or on a date, but you know, it can get
like spiral pretty fast, and I don't know, I feel
like I've just seen it happen within my friends making

(58:27):
careless decisions or family. So that's really what it's rooted in.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
No, I see, I see what you mean. I see
what I see what you mean. And again, like it's
we have the same information, but we're having two different
perspectives on it. And I think you have a good
I think you have a good perspective. I think that
that's that's a totally reasonable one.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yeah, I think we're on this like two sides of
the same coin.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
What's your name again?

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Uh? Brooke?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Brooke?

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Mm hm, oh my god, the last time, go ahead.
I was just gonna say the last time. It's funny
because I started off this conversation about my use infection,
but the last time I called you was about an
STD I had. I have a bad track record on

(59:27):
the GETO Show.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I don't think that's a bad track record. That's just
you know, that's just your life.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
It's just life. You're there for me in my darkest moment.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I'm honored to be there for you in your darkest moments. Brooke,
is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer before we go?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Fred Love show, Love, check up on your friends, drink
some water, say hid to your grandma, love.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You, thank you, Broke, have a good night to bye bye.
But I agree with Brooks postulate that I'd certainly rather
think like Brooke, that there is a future and we
should be doing stuff now, whether you know, in the
world or in our own lives, that are kind of

(01:00:17):
like plant the seeds for a better future. So I
do agree. I do agree with her perspective in that way. Hey, folks,
what's up. It's me. It's Lyle and uh, we're going
to do a thing where we end this episode by
reading viewer mail. I've been enjoying doing these hybrid geck

(01:00:38):
mail phone call episodes, so let's do some viewer mail.
If you want to submit view or mail for the future,
you can mail me or you know, I mean email me.
I mean, if you want to, you can mail me,
but you got to find out where I live first,
and I don't keep that information public. Don't try to
figure out where I live. Don't do that. Just just

(01:00:58):
send me an email. It's way easy. You can email
me at therapy geckomail at gmail dot com. But before
you do that, let's listen to some people who already
emailed me at therapy geckogmail dot com and let's see
what they have to say, all right, subject line Gek
mail from Dylan. This is from Dylan. Hi Gek. I'm

(01:01:21):
twenty six and a longtime listener, big fan of everything
you do. I'm not the best with words, but I'll
do my best. I love traveling and going on new adventures,
and I really want to travel overseas again. I live
near Sydney, Australia, and the only place I've ever been
overseas is Bali about fifteen times. Now, WHOA fifteen times?

(01:01:41):
That's a lot of times. I started going there when
I was a kid with my mom, dad, and sister.
Later on, my parents divorced. I think because my mom cheated,
though no one ever told me for sure. I never
pushed my dad about it because he's not great at
talking about that kind of thing. After the divorce, my
mom moved to Bali with her new partner, while I

(01:02:03):
stayed in Australia with my dad. About a year ago,
I started visiting my mom and Bali on my own.
My dad didn't want to come, so I would travel
by myself. I was only about ten at the time. Wait,
I said about a year later, right, not a year ago,
because that would mean it was eleven. I just want
to make sure. About a year later, I started visiting

(01:02:25):
my mom and Bali on my own. My dad didn't
want to come, so I would travel by myself. I
was only about ten at the time. Someone from the
airport would help me through the lines and make sure
I got there safely. It made me feel pretty special.
You just remember that movie Unaccompanied Miners. This is not
part of the email. This is just me doing a thing.

(01:02:46):
It's like about oh yeah, it's like a two thousand
and six movie about kids on Christmas their unaccompanied miners.
I don't remember that movie, all right. Sorry, through the
rest of this cause email that I'm gonna stop. I'm
gonna stop interrupt, I'm gonna read the email. I even
brought back a few laser pointers to sell to my schoolmates,

(01:03:06):
which I now realized was a dumb idea since they're
illegal here, but at the time it felt like a
cool little business. The whole point is that it's illegal.
That's it's like, that's like saying I used to sell
weed in high school, which I realized was a dumb
idea because it's illegal. It's like, of course, you know, okay,
all right, I really will stop interrupting this time. Why
are laser pointers illegal in Australia. I don't know if

(01:03:29):
this is frustrating for you guys to listen to, but
hold on, Why are laser pointers illegal in Australia. Laser
pointers are not completely illegal in Australia, but are strictly regulated,
primarily because aiming them at an aircraft is a serious

(01:03:51):
and dangerous offense. Okay, but can you really can a
laser pointer really fucking go that far? And also why
just Australia, They're not the only one that have planes.
I'm sorry. Those trips to Bali were amazing. I got
to spend my school holidays with my mom, and she

(01:04:12):
had more kids there, my three younger half brothers. Sadly,
I haven't seen them since I was sixteen. My mom
passed away from breast cancer when I was fifteen, and
the last time I went to Bali was for her funeral.
After that, I didn't want to go back. Airplanes just
reminded me of her and flying became too hard emotionally.
I'd love to see my brothers again, just to make
sure they're okay, but their dad left a bad impression

(01:04:35):
on me. When my mom died only two weeks later,
he emptied my savings account. What the fuck about twenty
thousand dollars that my dad had been putting money into
since I was born. That's fucked up because it was
a shared account with my mom and her husband at
the time. There was nothing I could do. Dude, that's
fucked up. Is there really nothing you could do that's

(01:04:58):
fucked up? Man? There's no way to say, like, is
that I guess? Damn? Yeah, I guess. If it's a
shared account with your mom, like he legally can do
that, that sucks. I'm sorry, man, Damn that made me lose
trust in him, and it's part of why I'm scared
to reach out now. I don't even know if my
brothers remember me. They were all toddlers when my mom
passed away, But I still think about them and hope

(01:05:20):
they're doing all right. These days, I try to stay positive.
I've got a beautiful wife, and together we've worked hard
to fire to buy our first property in a country town.
We're building our dream house, and I hope that one
day my brothers might find me and maybe we can
share a joint together and catch up on everything we missed. Wow,
what an email. Thanks for sending this, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
This is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
What a story you've got. You seem like a really
nice guy, Dylan. I'm sorry to hear that your stepdad
did that to you when you were a kid. Uh No,
I don't think he's worth reaching out to. I mean
that's a really rotten fucking thing to do. But I
don't know the half brothers right like. I mean, you

(01:06:03):
could do a little facebooking, I'm sure, and try to
find them. I'm sure if you wanted to, you can
do a little facebooking. If you have a you have
a wife, and shit, I'm sure you're I don't it
doesn't say exactly how old you are, but I'm gonna
guess you're at least in your late twenties. And yeah,
maybe I haven't seen them in a you know, over
a decade, but I think it's worth it to do
a little bit of facebooking and reach out to them.

(01:06:28):
How are things going? I wish I could talk to
this guy. If you Dylan, if you, if you hear this,
send me a I mean giving you a call on
the podcast sometime. I want to. I want to talk
to you. I want to hear how your your dad
is doing. I want to know about more about your life.
That's cool, man, I'm glad that you That's really hard
to lose your mom at fifteen, but you still went

(01:06:49):
on to, uh, you know, make a proper life for yourself. Brother.
That's really cool. That's really cool. Yeah, you should reach
out to your half siblings see how they're doing on
Mate book or whatever they got in Australia. Thanks for
sharing that story, Dylan. Sorry, sorry I kept interrupting it
with the stupid laser porter thing. Although I am I

(01:07:11):
still don't get why they're illegal in in Melbourne or
in all of Australia. Okay, I'm looking at my Google
Chrome window and it says gek mail from Dylan Unaccompanied
Miners Wikipedia and then r Laser's legal on to Reddit.

(01:07:35):
All right, this is from Charles subject line what is camouflage?

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Hi, Lyle.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
My name is Charlie. I'm from England and I saw
you live at the Clapham grand I ate three hot
dogs at the show, very stoned. It was amazing. Thank you, Charlie.
Me and my brother currently have a disagreement about camouflage.
My brother made the point that leopard print genes must
be camouflage, as leopard's fur is camouflage in its natural habitat.

(01:08:03):
I believe that once the camo is taken out of
the environment it blends in it is no longer camouflage
and is now just a funky pattern. Therefore, animal print
genes aren't camouflage, unless if you're in a jungle. We
would love your insight ps come back to England.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I will try to come back to England. But about
the camouflage thing, I don't really have an opinion on this,
but I like the way that your brain is going
with this, right because listen, nobody who buys camo genes
or leopard print genes is using them for the purpose

(01:08:47):
of camouflage. They're buying it because it is a funky pattern.
But just because the thing is not being utilized for
its intended purpose at the time it is being used,
does that necessarily mean that it is not that thing.

(01:09:08):
It's an interesting like a philosophical conundrum. It's like a
ship a thesis kind of a thing. I like to
be contrarian, so I'm gonna join you in saying that
leper print genes are not camouflage. They're just a funky pattern.
And it sounds like it pisses off your brother that
you said that, And I think that's kind of funny.
So I'm gonna go with you on that that it's

(01:09:29):
not camouflage, is just a funky pattern. All right. This
is from Thinn subject line, whatever you put out, you
get back, Hey Lyle, longtime listener here. Recently I moved
away from home to study abroad for a year. Just
for a bit of context. Like the majority of people
in Ireland my age, I have lived at home with

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parents my entire life, even though it's only a year.
When making the decision to live away, I was filled
with a lot of anxiety about what would change in
my life and if things would be different after moving.
Even though these are understandable fears, I'm really glad I
decided to move. As much as I loved my home
and my family and friends, I feel like the version
of me that stayed would be much less fulfilled than

(01:10:11):
the current me that left. It's also cool dad lore
for the future. Going into this, I wanted to treat
it as a fresh start. I decided to be more
confident and open. It wasn't as easy at the start,
but now I've made a lot of new friends and
I'm still keeping in touch with my friends back home.
This experience has also made me much more open to
trying new things and following my dreams. I've gotten more

(01:10:35):
into music, and I'm following my passions more openly and honestly,
as I used to feel pretty embarrassed saying out loud
that I wanted to make music. I'm still learning and adjusting,
but I'm definitely a lot less scared of change. If
I've learned one thing from this experience so far, it's
that whatever you put out into the universe, you could
often get back. I've made friends with a lot of
new people who both share interest with me and are

(01:10:57):
into things that I'm not really into myself. Thanks for
doing the show. Even though I recommend studying abroad, it
can get pretty lonely sometimes, so having a familiar voice
can be pretty nice. Hope to call in someday. Thanks.
I'm happy for you, finn. I really really strongly believe Listen, guys,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I know that not everyone has the means to be
able to leave their hometown. But if you do, or
if you have an inkling that you might want to try,
I recommend it. You know, I think you know any
of my life philosophies or whatever. They only come from

(01:11:37):
how I'm wired and everyone's wired differently. But I really
think it's like, you know, I don't know, I don't know. Man,
you only live for such a short amount of time.
You should go and see the fucking world. So good
for you, Finn. This is from Chris. Subject line, first
time get mailer. Hey, Lyle, my name is Republicus. Okay,

(01:12:04):
I'm gonna keep Chris, I mean Republicists whatever. I'm not
gonna blur. I don't think I'm not gonna cut out
your real name, but Chris Republicus okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I'm kind of new to the community. I've seen the
show before. I've heard some good things talked about on
the show, and it has made me want to reach
out and see what advice I can get or give back.
I'm married, thirty four year old male to a gorgeous woman,
and I have three boys. It's cool. I like being
a father. It's nice having some boys, you know, me

(01:12:37):
and my boys. That wasn't that wasn't in his email.
That was me commenting on his email. My married life
is amazing. Also, I have in my life the one
person in my life who knows who I am and
can always see the true me. She knows all of
my quirks, and I love that she knows these things.

(01:12:57):
We've been together for fourteen years. We've had our fights,
and we've almost separated, but we've learned and we are
continuing to learn how to communicate better. We've worked hard
for the things we have, just like anyone else does.
I don't have wealth in the denominal way, but I
am very wealthy in the love I have with the
people I hold closest to me. Now, enough of me

(01:13:19):
patting myself on the back. I'm curious just to share
a little bit of myself with you and the audience
in the hopes that maybe I'm not totally alone in
some aspects of life. Aliens, Maybe ancient history really cool
and fun sometimes. Okay, I'm not sure where this is going,
but I'm gonna keep reading it. I recently got into Hima,

(01:13:39):
the historical European Martial Arts. Been checking in on atlass
here and there, but the government shut down and NASA
went blind. These are just some of the things I
try to enjoy and fill my head with so reality
goes away. Moving on, I drive trucks for a living
trash specif he wrote trash in all caps. It's a

(01:14:03):
fun work environment, and I enjoy driving all day. My
two youngest are in school, and the oldest is living
at home but working two jobs. My missus works for
the state government. Sh He wrote, that's all I will
say about that. Then he wrote parentheses. It kind of
ramps up a little. Also, I have been adding salt

(01:14:23):
and pepper to my previous statements. Sorry if it gets rambling.
I really this is an audio. I'm not reading the email.
This is an audio experience. So I really like I
can't show you this email, but I really wish I could,
because it's this really feels like something to read, all right.

(01:14:44):
It is a really funny thing. Trying to send this email.
I'm finding it's taking a few days to do, so wow, okay,
how many I'm curious how many days this has been written?
Over see currently, as of this paragraph, it's been four
days or longer to get this all finished. There we go,
I remember to myself, Oh yeah, GEK and I come back.

(01:15:06):
It's been chill for the most part, but at this
moment I'm a little hurt physically lmal. I fucking tripped
at work while on my personal time changing my car tires.
Then I spent two to three hours nearly destroying my
boss's equipment to change my tires, all because I didn't
want to help using the all because I didn't want

(01:15:28):
help using the mechanical, intuitive, useful tool that I thought
I knew how to use. To top off the level
of frustration I was feeling in that moment, my gorgeous
wife texted and called, wondering why I'm not home, and
of course I take it that she is upset that
I am not done with the tires parentheses real quick.

(01:15:51):
In between nearly breaking my boss's things and my wife calling,
I had also tore the wall of my tire while
using the machine. Thank you in parentheses. Okay, I'm trying
to follow this. I'm yelling at her because I think
she's yelling at me, while she, on the other hand,
is just trying to see if I'm hurt or dead
or just mentally stable. I hang up, finish the tire

(01:16:15):
swap all caps so unconventionally finally drive home and apologize
to my beautiful wife Parentheses, sorry if the simping is
too much, and started this paragraph. It's our I think
it's all right to sinp for your wife. I think
that's okay, Republicus. Anyways, it's been chill just taking the

(01:16:39):
time to finally finish this email. Weird how parentheses therapy
can work when you have such a wise and humble
gecko that simply listens, analyze, and tries to be concise
with what he says. I appreciate that, Gigi's Republicus. Whow

(01:17:00):
all right that we did it. I could see I
could see myself for every day it took for you
to write this email. It took me an extra two
minutes to read it and comprehend it. But even though
I don't think I fully even though I don't think

(01:17:20):
I fully comprehended you, Republicus, just by judging by this email,
you're the kind of guy i'd be down to hang
out with. I'm curious what your life is like. I mean,
I feel like I got a pretty good idea of
what your life is like from this email, and I
like it. I like the way you live. I'm happy
that you exist. I really, I'm not even just bullshiting this.

(01:17:42):
You know, you have three boys, you have a wife
that you're nice too, that you've been together with since
you were fucking twenty. You got jobs, your kids are
in school, like you're a real human being on their
planet Earth right now. I have a lot of respect
for you. Republicus call in some time. I want to
know what republicist means. And I also want to know

(01:18:04):
what the hell you were using to fix your tires.
Well that's gek mail. That was viewer mail. Once again,
if you want to send me an email, you can
do it at therapy geckomail at gmail dot com. Thank you,
guys very much for for not recording. I'm the one recording,
But thank you very much for listening to the thing
that I have recorded. I appreciate that very much. I

(01:18:27):
hope you enjoyed listening to this episode. I hope that
this was fun for you guys to or informative or good.
I hope it was worth your time to listen to
this thing. I'm not wearing pants. I haven't been wearing
pants this whole time. I'm just in my underwear, so
I'm gonna go put on pants and that's it. I

(01:18:51):
don't have anything else to say. Thank you, sincerely from
the bottom of my heart for listening to this podcast,
and I hope you keep listening, and I hope you
tell your friends, and I hope that this show has
been helpful or anything at all to you in the
time that I've done it. And I feel honored to

(01:19:11):
be a geck on the computer. Thank you, guys. Bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Never goes on the line taking your phone calls.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Every night, every beacon goes on and ride. You're teaching
your cloud in the middle of your life that he's
not really an expert.