“I’M AN ESCORT”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Who is this.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
My name's Violet.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Violet. What's going on? Violet? How's life?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's been pretty good? Hold on, I'm a little nervous.
I didn't think you'd call me. I've seen your like
your YouTube shorts.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am honored to hear that you have seen the
YouTube shorts. I've been trying to upload more of them.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I said, yeah, there's super funny.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I sit alone on a computer and I and I
edit videos. It's a good life. It's a good life.
But enough about my life, Violet, what's going on you?
You messaged, you sent a text and you said, I
want to come on the show and talk about my
new job as an escort.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah. Well that's something I just recently started, like maybe
two months ago. It's been going pretty good.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
How did you get into that?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, I'm a stripper and I got really burnt out.
So I was like, okay, let me try something else.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, I guess I have a few questions. Why did
you get burnt out from being a stripper?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I think it's just a lot of competition and I
feel like a little self conscious maybe so now like
it's like I don't get rejected at all. You know,
when guys call me because they're choosing me because as
a stripper, like you could walk up to like tony

(01:35):
dudes tonight and only five of them will be like, Okay, yeah,
we could go for a dance even though I made
really good money.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Mm hm m hm?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Did that?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Did that?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
When that happens, are you at a point where you're like,
that's just the game, or does do you feel like
a form of like personal.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Rejection the kind of the day?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Really? Because I used to be really self conscious, and
then when I started stripping, like I felt way better
about myself. But I guess since like sometimes i'll tie
how much money I'm making to like my self worth.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah? So it's less of the like the like rejection
of the guy of the guy of you than it
is like about like the self self worth of the money.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So you said that, how did stripping help your self esteem?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Less?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
A whole bit of way. I mean, now I have
money to like do whatever, Like I could get hair extensions,
I always have like my lassies done, and I feel
just good about myself.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Mh.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I love that and I don't think I'll ever
be able to do anything else, even though I guess
I'll get old eventually, but I'm only twenty one.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Why do you think you won't be able to do
anything else?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, I don't know. I mean I have goals, I
just I don't know. I feel a little last like
I'm supposed to start college soon and I have been
I've just been really dizzy working and all that.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
But I don't understand because you say you have goals
and you say you start in college soon, but then
you also say you won't be able to do anything else.
I mean you said that pretty confidently.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I well, you know, I have to do something else.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I don't know. I have to like depression, and sometimes
that'll like not like flare up. But it's just a
part of life, you know. But sometimes I just feel
a little down about it, and I feel like I
should be farther ahead than I am.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Uh farther farther ahead?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
And what in what sense in life?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like I compare myself, like, okay, I could have like
finished school or gotten this done, but I've just been
like working, which has been good.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I mean, well is a trade off, right, because
like you, you probably I assume if you were. I
don't know how much you save or how much you
spend or whatever, but uh, because listen, right, Like, the
decision to work right out of school instead of going

(04:48):
to school has its pros and cons. And you know,
one of the pros is like, yeah, maybe you finished
school a little bit later, but you know, you have
some some money under your belt, whereas a lot of
people they get out of school and they're in debt,
you know, so, and whatever decision you make will put
you ahead in one way and behind and the other way.

(05:08):
But you know, you want to focus on the ways
in which you are ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Definitely. Yeah, you know, I've had time to save money.
But I love like being a stripper. I love being
an escort. I think it's fun. I get some crazy
people from time to time.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I have well, I have questions about the escorting thing.
But also you said, what are your goals that you
said you have?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I really want to go into criminal justice. That's
my goal. I want to be able to help people.
I think that would be cool.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Mm.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So what do you what is it that you like about? Well, so,
what exactly are you doing like as as an escort?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, like I have an ad on a website and
then these guys call me and then I take their information,
like their ID and like their like business websites, and
I looked through I try to make sure they're not
like a serial killer, and then I'll go hang out
with them. And it's not always like sexual.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Have you met interesting people doing this?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I mean at District Club, we're escorting people with like
maybe weird kings and characters. I had a guy that like, Yeah,
I had a guy that really wanted me to pee
on him, but I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Is that something you're interested in doing is peeing on someone?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean some money, I might mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Have you ever have you ever like, like, who's the
most memorable character you've come across in this line of work? Mmmm?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I had a guy that really liked and I would
like step on him. I've had guys like me in
a fart in her face, should I don't know, shout.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Out, shout out to our boy, Hank.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Mm hmm. Okay, so this is something that you're enjoying
doing and you want to you would like to continue
doing it?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, for like maybe like another tenure.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
M hm, So I have a question, but this is
so this I swear in my life this really isn't
a like a form of judgment. Is a genuine question
that I want to get your perspective on, because you
seem like you really like this line of war work.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Does it like.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
How does it affect your personal view and experience like
of intimacy?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'd say it's pretty skewed. I think my sometimes my
judgment of like men can be like pretty skewed because
I don't know a lot of guys that the guys
that I meet are like married or I don't know.
I kind of feel.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Bad about that.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Mm hmm, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't date or anything.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
So how how in what other ways do you think
it's uh skewed your perception of men.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Otherwise? I don't know. I mean, I tend to really
like the guys that I meet, Like, I think a
lot of people think they're like creepy, like maybe old guys,
but like I don't know, like look really scary, but
a lot of them are really handsome and I like them.
The money is just a plastic.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
M What what made you first get into this line
of work in general.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, the stripping, I don't know. I was like eighteen
and I really hated my job and I didn't want
to work forty hours a week for what seemed to
be like not a whole lot of money. So I
quit my job. One day when I went into a
strip club. I got started there and that's been really

(09:47):
good for me. Dascorting, I don't know. I just did
some research and I try not to like get murdered
or anything, but just you post an ad online and
there's that. I mean, you could get like arrested or

(10:08):
something that that has happen to me.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Does your do you like, do you talk to your
friends about it?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
My friends, No, my mom knows what what do they
do they what do they have to say?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
They just want me to be safe?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's good. Yeah, that's good. I I well, I'm I'm
glad you're enjoying. I'm still hung up on the fact
not because you like, like, why do you say that,
like you can't do anything else? I'm not not I'm

(10:57):
not not even like not even like being objected to,
Like if you if you're like, oh, if you're saying
like I don't want to do anything else. That's one thing.
But I like the fact that you're saying I can't
do anything else.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I think it's a mix of both. Like I really
like my jobs and I don't want to do anything else.
I just make a good amount of money and I
don't have to work super hard for it. I mean,
it is hard work, but not like labor, like I
don't know, like construction or something. And I know that

(11:33):
I want to go into criminal justice eventually. It'll just
take time.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
M hm, Well you know, well I don't. Yeah, that's
the thing, right because even if even if it's not
a lot of hours, it's like you're rewarded for I think,
like in general, with like money and shit, you're never
you're never like you're never compensated for your time. You're

(11:59):
compensated for like a variety of things, you know, And
so you're well because you're getting you're getting compensated not
just for your time, but you're also getting you know,
you're getting rewarded by nature of the fact that you're really,
you know, putting yourself out there.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, you mean like sexually, well, just I mean just.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
In general, like you know, whether sexually or just the
fact that you're like willing to go meet a stranger
and hang out with them and you know, be be
cool to them and you know, make them feel you know,

(12:38):
like they have some company.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah. I like. I like being able to meet people
feel sen.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
M hm Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I think you know again, you know, whether or
not like you're being, that's that's what you're being.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think rewarded for is your ability to you know,
make people feel seen and uh, you know, accompanied more
so than like, you know, I put an X amount
of time into X amount of why thing and I
get Z dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Right. Yeah, it's really cool talking to you. I don't
know if you want to keep talking to me. This
is being pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Was there? I guess Is there any other aspect of
this that you wanted to talk about?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I just wanted to share take a roll.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Is there anything else you want to say to the
people of the computer before we go?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Mmm? No, but thanks for chatting with me.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Bye, Gek, goodbye bye. Let have a good rest of
your entire life.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Hi is this Gek?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
This is who is this? This is Dev?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
What's up? Dev? Has life? Oh?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
My god?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Life's good?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Man?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
What's up with you.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I'm doing okay. Actually I have a little bit of
a headache, but who cares, you know, who cares about Madville?

Speaker 4 (14:19):
You'll you'll work through hell.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly exactly. Did you tell me your
name yet?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah? Dev?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
D E V D E V Okay, all right, Dev?
What's up? Dev? How's life? What's going on with you?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh? Man?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So I've I've recently come to a realization and I
feel like you're a professional and I wanted to talk
to you about it. You know, I've seen your videos.
You see you really help people.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm not a professional anything, but I'll
I guess. I guess by the definition of professional, I'm
a professional therapy gecko, so I can do that.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's professional enough for me.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
What's up, ma'am? Tell me? Tell me everything.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
So, like, I've recently gone into a new relationship and
I love my boyfriend very dearly. However, he's forklifts certified
and it's like a ha ha ha people also funny,
funny meme forkless certified. But I've recently come to the
realization that I it kind of turns me on, and

(15:27):
I don't know why. Like he'll call me while he's
at work and he'll be like, hey, guess what, babe.
I'm like what, And he's like, I'm going on the forklift,
and I'm just like, god damn sexiest thing ever. I
don't even know. I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Why is this a Why is this a problem? This
is a good thing.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
I don't even I guess it's not a problem. I guess.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Typically it's like midday, I'm like either at work or
at school, and he'll just do it randomly, and I
just call me up like I'm just gonna go on
the forklift. Sometimes he'll honk the horn on the forklift,
and I find that really funny too. I guess it's
not a problem.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I'm just confused as to why it turns me on.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Why do you think it turns you on?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Okay, that's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Maybe it stems from the fact that for a while
there was like that like forklift certified meme going around.
Maybe it's not I'm very much like kind of brain rodded.
I'm twenty years old. I'm not I'm not you know,
I don't know. Maybe it's just the fact that it
stems from the fact that it was a meme at
one point. But maybe it's also the fact that I

(16:39):
know my boyfriend's accomplished. You know, I don't have my
forklift certified license, my coworkers aren't forklift certified. But my
man is that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Mhm. Have you ever like seen him in the forklift
or have you only have not?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I I've only heard about it. We're doing long distance
right now to its south. But ever and I've talked
to him about it too, and ever since I've like
brought it up with him. Anytime he's in the forklift
and remembers, he makes an effort to call me, And
I wish I could see him the forklist. I think
that would like turn me on even more. But like

(17:21):
I don't know what to be too much.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I don't even.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
God, I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
But like I picture him in the like if he
goes in the forklift, I picture him in the forklift,
and I'm like, damn, Like I could totally just watch
you for hours drive around and use a forklift and
move stuff. I don't even know what stuff he's moving
with it. I have no clue, But I just know
he drives the forklift.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
What exactly is the picture you have in your mind
when you picture him in the forklift?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Okay, I know he has to wear a hard hat
because he's sent me selfie and he has to wear
like seventh grade like think middle school science class, like
clear goggle kind of things, like he has to wear
those for like his eye protection.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I see the forklift like maybe a gray color, I
don't know, maybe it's blue, and I know he has
to wear these like greenish maybe blue overalls, overalls, I
can use what he calls them. So like picturing him
in a hard hat with middle school clear glasses and
overalls on in a forklift, like driving it around and

(18:33):
like honking the horn and the horn is like pretty
high pitch. I just like I could genuinely if I
was there in person, I could sit down and I
could watch him like, yeah, that is my man, that
is my man, Stay away, he's mine. I can picture
it clear as day.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
And mm hmmm hmmm. Then you don't know what you
don't know why this is? I mean, I think, I mean,
I think, uh, you know, some people are attracted to
a man in uniform. I think, uh, you know, being
forklift certified. I think women in general attracted to competence,

(19:19):
and I think being for forklift certified is a strong
indicator of competence. Yes, so I think it makes total
sense to me that you would be attracted to him
when you were a kid. Did you have a crush

(19:42):
on Bob the Builder?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah, don't do that to me. Oh man, No, I
loved Bob the Builder actually thinking back, Yeah, no, I
I watched that ship so often. Oh my god, Oh
my god, odd, oh my god. My boyfriend's kind of
like Bob the Builder. Oh no, wait, I shouldn't do sad.

(20:06):
That's not a no, no, that's just a huge wow.
See this is why I called you.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is Bob that? Would you put Bob the Builder on
your like hear me out list?

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yes? Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Does he? Does your boyfriend look like Bob the Builder?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
No, he has more hair. My dad looks like Bob
the Builder.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh holy shit, your boyfriend probably looks like your dad,
and that's probably why my.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Boyfriend does not look with my dad. My dad is
as bald as a cucumber. My boyfriend has hair.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
No offense, it's not a bad thing. I think that's No,
it's like a documented phenomenon as people want to date
people that look like the parents for some reason.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
No, I've seen that happen.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Damn, I don't know. That's pretty cool. I guess yeah,
hopefully maybe when this drops, more guys are going to
be like, I got to get forklift certified.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I hope so like it definitely, you know, I think
about like, Wow, at some point in his life before
he met me, he set aside time to get forkless certified.
And I just find that really attractive and like, you
actually took time out of your day to become forkless certified,
and now you're forklift certified and I get to hear
about it and you get to be mine. But no, man,

(21:29):
if you're listening, get forklift certified. Like easiest pickup line
at bars too, Like if you're in a bar. I
could totally picture it. Like if you're in a bar
and you want to go talk to this girl and
you don't know what to say, you can just go
up to her and be like, hey, I'm Workliss certified
and I think you're really cute.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I would be hooked.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I know I would be hooked. Like, oh my god, well,
you're forkliff certified. Tell me more, you know, so, I
don't know, maybe more men should do that.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
You guys are a long distance he.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Said, yeah, we're long distance right now.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Where's he at?

Speaker 4 (22:03):
He's in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Do you guys, where'd you guys meet?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
We met online?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I do.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I'm in Kelly. I'm in Los Angeles and I do
like art stuff online and he found my profile and
we just kind of started talking to each other casually
and it just kind of went from there. He's flown
here before. I just actually recently flew out there. But
he's playing with California next year actually.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And on his like, like, what you guys connected on Instagram?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Does he have a lot of pictures on his Instagram
of him in the forklift?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
He doesn't.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Oh my, he does not, actually, And I'm going to
get on his ass about that, because I need to
flex that my boyfriend is worklift certified. I need more
pictures of him in the forklift. Matter of fact, I
need more pictures of him. I need more pictures of
the forklift so that when he calls me and he's like, hey, babe,
I'm in the forklift. I can picture the forklift. I
can have a better image, right, I think that's.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
A good idea.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, maybe you don't want to see the forklift, right
because I almost think I actually, you know it would
be so tragic. Is if you see him in the
forklift and it's like it's icky to you that it's
that it's so different from how you imagined it in
your head, right, Like I think when it cuts in

(23:24):
like right, and like sexual and romantic fantasies, they're always
they're always going to be better in your head than
they are in real life. So I almost hope you
never see or what you you're like your boyfriend in
the forklift, only like stays in your imagination because that's
where it's that's where it's gonna have the highest quality.

(23:45):
That's where every one of your dreams and fantasies will
have their highest amounts of pleasure to you. Is is
in the form of dreams and fantasies.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I have never thought of it that way. See, and
this is I don't understand why you don't call yourself
a professional, because that that makes a lot of sense. Actually,
I don't want to see a picture of him. I
don't mind as selfie if he's in the forklift. I
don't want to see outside the forklift. Let's I'm gonna
let my imagination or.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
In wild with that devastat anything else you want to
say to the people of the computer before.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
We go, man, get forklifts certified. You know, maybe you
double check your hear me out list. Maybe Bob the
Builder can be added to it. And God bless this
country and God bless America. And I love my boyfriend
so much. I love you and uh he messaged me

(24:41):
and he told me to say if I got on
phone with Ghek, and he has no idea that I'm
talking about this. He just knows that I tried to
call you. So Hi, babe. I love you so much
and I hope you were able to write the Forklift
tonight because I miss you.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
But thank you so much, Gek.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Thank you dev You have a good rest of the night.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah you too.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Oh? Dang this the Gek?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah? Who is this?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh? This is Sean Sean.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Sean you texted me and you said I did mushrooms
at your Edmonton show. It was a blast, but I
had a revelation about my life, and it's been bothering
me since I just got back. I just got back
from Yeah, from Canada. I was in Edmonton over the

(25:29):
weekend at McEwan University. That was a fun time. Thanks man,
thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. So were you
on when were you on mushrooms during the show or
was it after the show?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah? I was on mushrooms during the show. I I
took a couple of mushroom chocolates with the girl I brought,
and yeah, it was. It was a good time, but
kind of at the end of the show, I started
having this revelation about my life and what I'm looking
out of it. It's been weird, man, I don't can
want me to explain more.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Did we meet? Did we talk? Did I talk to you?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
No? No, I see. I tried to get meet and
greet tickets prior to the show, but it said you
had to be a me Quan student.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So people not just so people know for the record,
the school did that. I don't. I don't do like
meet and greet tickets. I just usually I just stand
around and meet everyone for free, usually just so people
sucking you know.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Anyway, Yeah, so I and then they were saying, you know,
you can wait in a line and meet him if
you hang out. And then I was kind of tripping
ball a bit, and I looked at the girl I
was with and I was like, we gotta go. She
also she was yeah, and she was having a little
bit better of a time I was, I think, and
that was kind of helpful. But yeah, we went out

(26:56):
in the town. We had some cocktails. But the whole
time I was having kind of this Uh. I hate
to bring up the topic because it's been beaten like
a dead horse, but existential dread just thinking about you know,
I had this idea of, you know, what I wanted
in my life, the relationship to settle down and you know,

(27:19):
have a life kid, so all that fun stuff. But
in all that streamship I kind of will see your
your trip to Iraq and just the experience and stuff
you talked about. I kind of had this like flooding
emotion of I haven't done enough or I haven't seen enough,
and it was it was weird. And now it's you know, Monday,
I'm back to my regular job and I'm thinking, what's

(27:40):
the plan, what to do? Yeah, and it.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Did the show gave you an existential crisis.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Not the show, but just like I think my internal
thoughts of you know, like just seeing how I was
so happy, like listening to your show and go about
you go go and Iraq and You're doing mushrooms and
the forest and stuff, and I was like, man, all
these experiences and I started thinking back to like, you know,
some of the experiences that I've had in me not

(28:10):
to compare anything, but it was more long, and I
felt like I I owe myself more. It was just yeah,
it was but.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, yeah, I have a lot of thoughts about this.
One is well, how are you? Were you a student?
Are you?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
No? No? I drove, I drove like two hours away
in different in a different city. Yeah, yeah, it was.
It was sweet. Man. I wasn't gonna miss it. I
fucking signed up for your text to say when you
were coming in because I heard you briefly on one
of your streams being like I'm coming to Emson and
I was like, when so I walked in.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So okay, the girl that you were with, like was it?
Because sometimes because one of the tough things about like
being on mushroom has been a lot of drug is
like if you're with somebody and you're having an existential crisis,
especially someone you're like fucking like you're intimate with, you know,
like your girlfriend. Like was it like were you staring

(29:06):
at her being like and she's just like enjoying the
cocktails and You're like, Yo, what the fuck is this?
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Honestly, man, when I think back to it now, I'm
pretty sure I was like I was quite withdrawn. Like
I noticed like during the night she was kind of
just asking me like, hey, how you doing and stuff,
and I wasn't giving any space to say shit going
on in my head. I was like, oh, I'm good,
I'm just you know, tripping, But in reality, I was
fucking stinking one thousand miles an hour about my license. Shit.

(29:34):
I had some drinks and it kind of chilled out.
But then, like the residual effects of this later days
has kind of been hit me. Yeah, just was like,
I don't know if I'm ready to settle down. I'm
twenty nine, you know. Current I had to move back
in with my parents right after COVID, so I've had
a lot of time to kind of just sit and

(29:57):
save a little bit of money, not as much A.
I probably wanted to, but I don't know. It's just
by being back in my parents' place and you know,
kind of just working my job money to Friday is
kind of get I don't know. I think it's starting
to get to me. And I didn't think it was
getting to me as much as it has after that
mushroom trip. But sorry to the Bible, no no, no.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So before the mushroom trip, were you having these thoughts?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
You know sometimes but they would like they would fade
away with you know, just like distracting myself. I guess
with my everyday life like going to work and going
to do my things outside of work, like my hobbies
and things like that. And then I think it would
just kind of settle in when you got of got
time to yourself and you're thinking about life and kind

(30:45):
of like you know, when you're not distracted, it kind
of start to have a little more introspective thoughts. And yeah,
but the streams just amplified it, I feel like, and
I think a lot of it comes from like this
current relationship I'm in. It's pretty new you and like
in four months in she's super into me, really nice
and everything. But I feel like part of me doesn't

(31:08):
want to settle down with her, and I don't know
the particular reason why. And then the mushrooms kind of
made me realize, like, oh, it's because you haven't really
like lived much of a life, Like why are you
thinking about selling down? You know, you haven't done much?
And that's kind of where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Wells, I have a lot of thoughts about that because
and I don't know. You know, here's the thing. I
don't have a kid, and I don't have a wife
for a girlfriend. So I'm not a good authority on that,
but I think in my head, I don't I'm not
a good authority to talk about this. But like in

(31:46):
my head, it's like ideally, whatever relationship you do get
into or whatever, or you know, whatever life you kind
of do build is one that like amplifies the lifestyle
that you want to have, you know, I think there's

(32:07):
this and that's and again I'm like I'm a bad
authority on it, but that's how it feels like in
my head, like this idea that like, oh, I have
this kind of life I want to live, let me
live as much of it as possible until I'm bored.
And then let me quote unquote settle down and like

(32:27):
sh I don't think that that works. Like, I don't
think that happens, you know. I think it's like you will.
I think you're always gonna wanna. If you're the kind
of person that wants to do things and is ambitious
or whatever, you're kind of always gonna I think that
you're that's not I don't think that goes away. I
don't think that there is just a moment where you're like,

(32:48):
all right, I had my fill and now a time
because I mean, yeah, I at that show. I talked
about going Iraq, and I talked about my little adventures
and stuff. And you know, it's funny to hear that
you saw that and were like, oh, I don't like,
what have I done with my life? Because I I'm
on insta fucking I'm on fucking Instagram all the time, dude,

(33:12):
And I'm I and I'm on Instagram all the time,
and I'm seeing people doing things and I'm always like, fuck,
I want to be doing things. You know, there's never
a It's like food. You never you don't eat a
sandwich and you go, you eat a sandwich and you go,
that was a good sandwich. I feel satisfied, but you
don't eat a sandwich and you're like, I think, I
I think I've eaten. You know, I don't. I don't.

(33:35):
I don't need to eat anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Sandwich.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, you're gonna want to keep eating sandwiches and drinking.
It's like becomes these things, they become part of your homeostasis.
I think. And again I'm a I'm a pad authority
because they don't have a girlfriend and kids. But uh,
I see, but I see people who you know, have

(34:00):
kids and you know, have a significant other, and they
they they're able to still kind of live life in
some way. And you know, obviously, I think I think
for people like that, I think having money is is
a you know, a factor I think, you know, but

(34:21):
also I don't know. But also I think, uh, some
people just fucking figure out how to make it work
and then they do. But so let's I mean you specifically, right, like,
what what do you want to do? What are the
things like when you when you're on your when you're
tripping and you're like I want to do this, and
then the other thing like what is it that you

(34:41):
want to do?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I think, honestly, man, it's like travel really, like really
I really wanted to go to Thailand for most of
my young adult life teenage life, and they traveled to
eastern South East Asia and stuff. I don't know, it's
just a experience like meet more people, you know, go
to different places, and part of me. I don't know,

(35:05):
maybe this is like a whole different thing, but I
feel like I have to be single to do that.
Like my brain goes like in this direction of like
you can't you have to do this on your own,
like and I don't know if it's because I don't
feel strongly enough about a partner that I want to
like experience that with them, or if I'm just like
pigeonholing myself of like you know, get it being wellnely.

(35:29):
I don't know, it's just been the whole thing. Like
I have this feeling that I just need to like
not have any super strong connections with anybody so that
I can like you know, make these like do this
traveling and see different parts of life and meet new people.
Because like I just have this anxious feeling that by
like accepting current situation even now, I won't maybe meet

(35:51):
like someone else along the lines or experience certain things
because I've settled down, I get keep going back to
settled down things.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
But sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you man, I
know you.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
We'll tell you about this girl. What's her deal?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
She's chill, man. She I met her online Facebook dating.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Spars Facebook dating, Well, hold on, I want to get
hold on. We're gonna go on a tangento. We got
to go on this day? What the fuck is going
on on Facebook dating?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Honestly? Man? So I did to play Xbox with this
guy and I was kind was on the apps Tinder hinge,
you know, and wasn't having the best time. I deleted
them without really like meeting anyone. I was just kind
of like random matches, shys about conversations with that whole stuff.
And my friend that was playing Xbox this, I'll get

(36:42):
to that. He told me. He's like, man, I met
my girlfriend on Facebook dating and she check it out
and I was like, oh, I don't know, man, Like
Facebook dating seems like it's kind of just full of
single moms. And he's like, it is, I'm dating a
single mom and I laugh. So but anyway, in my
desperation of loneliness, I downloaded Facebook Dating and starts whip.
And I met this girl and she didn't have any kids,

(37:03):
but she's near the area. We had similar music taste.
Her profile was kind of like, it wasn't super getting like,
I didn't tell much about her. We met out, we
met up, hung out a few times, a pretty casual
on me. I ended up figuring out we had pretty
much the same taste in music. She's not from around here,

(37:23):
so she's kind of like knew to the area. She
grew up really Jehovah's witness family and that kind of
had a lot of her life was held back from
her from that culty like religion. So now as an adult,
she moved away to Alberta when she was like twenty
or something, and now he's been trying to just like
live life and gain her own experiences. So she's she's chilling, man,

(37:47):
she's down into anything, and like that whole therapy get
go thing. I kind of just hit her like, I
seen you were coming. I didn't want to go alone,
although I probably live And I was like, Hey, do
you want to go to therapy get coo? And she
was like, what the fuck is therapy? GOTO showed her
a few clips and she was like down, and so
I asked her if you want to do mushrooms chocolates
over there? And yeah, like it's been chill and there
hasn't really been any like like major red flags and anything

(38:09):
to make me not want to be in a relationship
except my own internal thoughts of this uh, settling down
type of mindset. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, you have this like thing in your head of
like I want to I want to fuck the world,
not even like in a sexual way, just you know,
like no.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's literally the best way to explain it, honestly, like
I just want to take life. Yeah. Yeah, man, it's
a lot of like this pent up And then it's
stupid because I hear so many of your callers talk
about like, you know, like the experiences they had, like
anyone ranging from that one older lady that called I
think she was a close to like fifty something to
like even the train guy who fucking was like a

(38:47):
young kid and traveling Like I had fallen into this
thing where I'm like I'm getting too old and I
need to make a choice when it's like dude, I
don't know, I'm not that old, like come twenty nine,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Know, Well, I mean, well aa not that I'll m
be this idea that you have to make a choice
is like, well, I don't know, I don't It's hard
because I don't know. I don't know what you do
for a living.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Or what like you're I work at I work at
a homeless shelter as like a like a support worker there.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Do you get uh do you get time off?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I get a pretty decent amount of time off,
like two weeks paid vacation a year, and then they're
really good at just giving you like unpaid time off.
Like it's not a huge deal if you take time
off in there. But I usually spend my summers going
to visit my brother who lives in British Columbia. But
I've been thinking about even just like taking a temporary
highus from work.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well yeah, because like look, if they give you I mean,
I'll tell you a little bit about my experience with
this kind of stuff. Is like, so your job, like
if they give you like unpaid time off, and like
you're able to kind of like, you know, I don't know
if the job gives you you know, I know it's
a tough economy, is there can you save money? Doing
this gig.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm living with my parents right now.
I could definitely save enough money. That's one thing too.
I have no excuse on that, and like I've just
been kind of living like I pay some rent here,
but not enough that I should be like not having
as much saved as I do, know.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Because like, look I went I yeah, I went to Iraq.
I was there for five days, you know, like I was.
I was only there for five fucking days, and it
felt like a lifetime. It's five fucking days. And so
I mean, if you time things right and you save
up and whatever, if you're you know, if you're like
you want to go to Thailand, right, like yeah, like

(40:43):
you know, you save up some money, you take you
take off fucking whatever, Thursday, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, four unpaid days.
If they're cool with that, right, then you got you
got's enough time for you to, you know, run away,

(41:04):
do you know, do a trip and feel like you
got away with something. It doesn't always have to be.
People are really stoked on the like like you go
to hostels and stuff and everyone's like, yeah, man, I've
been on the road for six months, nine months. I'm
like I don't want to like fuck that. I don't
want to do that.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, it sounds like a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
It's a lot. So you can actually, I think, especially
because you said it's if they're cool with if you
can find a job, that's like cool, it sounds like, yeah,
that's cool with you, like you know, giving you some
unpaid time off, and then like you know, you're living
with your parents, you can save up some money, like

(41:44):
you can do a little bit of both. You know,
you can be with this girl but also be like, hey, listen,
I gotta go to Frankfurt for four days just because
I'm crazy. And if she's cool, she'll be like all right, yeah,
I get you. Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
You know I have to go to afghanis Dan.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah right, exactly exactly. So there's like ways to do
have you done so this? But this bug, this is like, yeah,
I want to fuck the world. I want to do
all this crazy crap. I get you, I have that thing.
I have that thing too. What is like have you
have you done anything like that before? Because also you

(42:23):
also will build up in your brain uh an idea
of what fucking the world looks like, and it's always
different from what it actually is.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah. I did a bit of traveling when I was
younger with my parents, but nothing nowhere like super crazy,
and went to Mexico and Hawaii and then Las Vegas
a couple of times. But the only thing a place
I've been doing is a doll I went on like
a groad trip to Cuba, which is pretty fun. But
other than that, man, I've just been kind of fucking Like.
I went to school and like switch degrees fucking three

(42:56):
different times, and spent like a solid like six years
in college trying to figure out what I want to do,
and was working full time during that period. So I
felt like a lot of my early twenties where I
should have just not went to school and you know,
worked some shitty job and traveled that I was kind
of having that idea in the back of my head,
like you need to, you know, get a job now

(43:16):
and get an education so that when you're twenty nine
you can settle down just that whole trap. That's why
I really like hearing you tell people. I'm sorry to
go off in tangent, but tell people that they should
really like reconsider university or must they want to be
like a doctor or lawyer or something, but you know,
experience life. Because I had that idea that I had

(43:37):
to jump into school and I had to get a
job in order to have some sort of life. But
in reality, I kind of just wasted my early twenties
chasing something. I didn't really know what I was chasing.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Well, do I do work in a field that has
that degree?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, so I ended up leaving cool. I ended up
leaving school to diploma in social work. But I'm not
going back to school to get the degree. It's just
in the field of social work. It's kind of get
a degree if you're masters, if you want to work
for the government, but other than that, it's kind of
an experience based work kind of employment. So like, it's

(44:19):
just the longer you, you know, le are in the field,
the better opportunities are getting stuff. And I'm really good
where I'm at right now. I make a decent amount
and enough that I can live. Yeah, that's the thing
I struggled.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, go on, what are you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Oh, just the whole early twenties thing, Like I bounced
between different jobs and stuff like this job I have
right now, I've been there for the last two and
a half years. It's like the first job I've actually
not wanted to I'm alive myself after my work, you know,
like I really enjoy what I do. So it's it's
really cool. This whole last two and a half years,
three years of working there and just being in the

(44:58):
social work field has been giving me a lot of
breathing room just think about other things in my life.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
I think, well, I think my ultimate take on this,
and it is like, if it's something you even kind
of feel like you want to do and you have
the the resources to do it, which it sounds like
you're set up in a way that you can do it,
you know you should do it. But I don't think
it has to be this. But I don't think it
has to be the way you're talking about it is
like it's like you're calling off a wedding or something

(45:28):
for four months, like you can like you can, you
can go on vacation, you know what.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I habit of just doing that like an all or
nothing kind of thing. Yeah, exactly, like just not taking
it day by day sort of thing. It's always been
an issue, but yeah, I think it's just talking it out.
Is talking to out helps for sure?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, I have this. I have the same thing where
a part of me goes like should I need to
go to like I just have I just always have
this fucking thing in my head that makes the I
saw some TikTok that was like there's people who kind
of like settle into whatever it is they're doing out
of college and they're like, Okay, you know, I'll just

(46:11):
do this, and they do it for thirty years and
then that's it. And then there's people who like every
five years they just get this urged they're like seekers,
Like every five years they just get this urge to
like destroy their life and start in there. And I'm
like that that's me. That's me. That's me to a
tea and you and I've I've done that, and then

(46:33):
I've come back and I've been like, wait, I shouldn't
destroy my life. I got a good life. And I've
over time figured out like, Okay, how do I do
a little bit of both? How do I have make
room for you know, how do I make room to
like have bananas and you know, uh like a workout

(46:56):
routine and like just live like a normal person. But
then also you know, do random ship. And I've kind
of tried to like overtime build something that really intentionally
looked like that, And it's possible. So I don't think
you have to be either. I don't think you have
to either be a vagabond or a office worker. I

(47:17):
think there's something in between. A lot of people do it.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah did your did your girlfriend like the show?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah? Dude, it was fucking awesome. That girl, that girl
Shane that came up on stage first and I know, yeah,
that was wild. Yeah there, and then the other guy
that got Yeah, I liked to him. I felt like
we could be homies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
There was a girl that came on stage and talked
about uh all of her.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Like thinks that she's like I'm a something who Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
She said. She said that she was like addicted to
like look it up with straight guys. And then like
she told she talked about this like guy who was like,
you know, gave he's he said, he like he gave
her his home address and was like I'm gonna leave

(48:17):
the door open, I'm gonna be blindfolded, face down, ass up,
you come in and you do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah, that's it. I like his like his bravery and
that guy's that guy's take on just taking the world
face down.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, no, that guy does.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
That guy is uh, he doesn't stress about where to travel.
I bet I don't think he does.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I agree with you, man, I don't think that's a
really good take. Yeah, that's not a very neurotic guy.
That's not an anxious person. The guy who just just
like the door is unlocked, steal all my stuff? Who cares?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, respect to him? Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
What's your name again?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Man? I think Sean other Sean? Yeah, Sean Sean.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Sean was good talking. I'm I'm glad I got to
catch up with someone who was at that show because
that was a fun time. And also, yeah, I I
empathize with you on a lot of your thoughts and feelings.
But I do. I hope that because it's totally the
kind of thing that when you talk about it aloud,
you're like, oh, I'm I'm, I'm. I was building it

(49:25):
up in my head.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
So yeah, pretty much, pretty much. It was really helpful.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Good man. Is there anything else you want to say
to the people of the computer before we go?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yeah? Would you mind if I possibly shouted out my Instagram.
I'm an amateur mixed march, life, flighter and more following
I have the the better it is for me. Yeah sure,
go ahead, Yeah you follow me on Instagram STC four
zero three Underscore. Really appreciate you guys, Love you guy.
Thanks for everything you do.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Whether have a good way real quick? Where Canada you
actually from? Because I'm gonna I think next time I
told where. I want to do more of the like
I've done, like Vancouver and Toronto and ship, but I
want to do.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I'm in Alberta in Edmonton. You came to like you
came to Edmonton. I live like two hours south of there.
You should do like Red Deer or Calgary. I live
in red Deer. It's between Edmonton and Calgary. But you
should definitely do Calgary. Man, it's a beautiful city. You
like it a lot more of Edmonton's offense Edmonton but
sick sick.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, Edmonton was a little depressed. I mean the show
was great, but the city itself was a little depressing.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah, we call it Gotham City.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
But take care Sean, Thank you man, you too, bye, Bud. Now,
Edmonton was cool. We went to the mall, the Edmonton mall. Oh,
here's my favorite part of Edmonton for uh the A
and W. We went to a fucking A and W

(50:55):
where they put the mug like they put like a
glass mug in the freezer and then they take it
out and they pour the roopier in it. That's the
best thing about the whole city is they got anw's everywhere.
Tim Horton's Tim Hortons destroys, destroys the shit ass Starbucks.

(51:16):
Fuck Starbuck. I haven't talked enough on this podcast about
how much I hate Starbucks. And they give you the
little They give you like a teeny little, eaty bitty
like their idea of like a bacon, egg and cheese
sandwich is like an eaty bitty English muffin with a
little bit of cheese and sausage and whatever. It's like

(51:37):
a tiny little circle. You can make it with your
pointer finger and your thumb. Seven dollars, go fuck yourself,
Tim Hortons. They'll give you diabetes for three Canadian dollars.
That's like one American penny. It's great. Hey, what's up?

(51:57):
Everybody has a going It's Lyle and I'm here to
end the episode by reading some viewer mail. But before
I do that, I want to do a little thing.
I want to let you guys know that I am
currently in the process of planning another tour for twenty
twenty six. This would be my fourth time taking Therapy

(52:19):
Gecko on the road. I'm really excited to get back
out there. I took a long break from doing shows
and I feel like I've had adequate time to rest
and chill and now I'm ready to get back out
there and hit you guys with some stories from my
life and combine that with some stories from the audience's

(52:40):
life and you have a good time and do some shows.
So if the idea of coming to a live show
interests you, you can click the link in the episode description.
I have a link that allows you to sign up
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word out to people about the shows. If you sign

(53:01):
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of the podcast. Put your phone number or email in

(53:22):
there so that I can let you know when I'm
coming to your city in twenty twenty six, and especially
if you live in New York City, because I'm going
to try to start up a kind of a regular
recurring show between now and that tour to kind of
get some material together and practice being back on stage.

(53:42):
But anyway, let's get into some GEK mails. This is
from Marcos. Subject line, I ran my first marathon with
my sixty two year old day. Hello, GHEK, I hope
you were doing all right. We had talked before. I

(54:05):
was the caller who destroyed your optimism with the metaglasses convo.
I think I remember that. I think there was a
conversation where I was being optimistic about the rejection of
new technology, and then you told me about the metaglasses
and I was like, Okay, well we're fucked anyway. On
October fifth, I ran the Twin Cities Marathon with my

(54:26):
father and two brothers. My father has ran many before
in his prime, and he's always wanted to run one
with his three sons. That was my main motivation to
sign up. Oh that's cute. So I start training in
January and I was very impressed with how far I
can run. I felt limitless, as if I awoke a
new potential within me. Race day came and I felt

(54:47):
hella nervous. Everything was going fine until mile nineteen. I
was lagging behind and they had started taking down the
mile markers. So for the next six miles I had
no idea how much further go, and I was in
all sorts of pain. My mom decided to join me
and my dad on the last portion of the race
to motivate us. Thankfully, I made it to the finish

(55:09):
line with one last sprint. I finished in seven hours
and thirty minutes, and I would do it again. Oh shit, man,
seven hours of running. That's cray AT's crazy. Shout out
to my wife for supporting me the whole time. Shout
out to my family for being there at the end
of the finish line. Congratulations Marcos, that's cool. I don't
know why I'm making everything about me, but I'd like

(55:31):
to run a marathon one day. I don't know. I
don't know if I'm ever gonna do that. I don't
like running. I like walking like I would I could easily.
I mean, I don't know about easily. But like if
you were like, hey, you want to go on a
fifty mile walk, I'd be like, sure, that sounds like
it could be fun.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I like a nice pace, but a run is like
if I don't have anything to run from, I don't
really want to run, but I'm glad that you did it.
Someone's got to do it. Think. You know what always
confused me is the like like the breast cancer awareness
walks and like not specifically breast cancer, but you know

(56:10):
what I mean, where it's like walk for diabetes, walk
for cancer type of stuff, like when we were growing up.
I'm sure they still do it, but because I always
thought I was like when I was a kid, I
thought that somehow the walking itself cured the cancer. And
now I realized, no, you pay. I think this is

(56:31):
how it works. You pay. I've never ran one of
these things, but you pay money and then you do
the walk, and then they donate the money to like
a cancer research place. But don't wouldn't You don't have
to do the walk, You can just do the give
the money. It should be called money for should be

(56:52):
called money for cancer, folks. I'm going on tour. It's
gonna be great now. I'm yeah, that sounds uh, sounds good.
I'm glad you did that. Okay. Interesting. This is from Shade,
subject line unhappiness while happy. Hey, Lyle, I've been wanting

(57:15):
to message you forever. You can read my silly email
name if you'd like. But I'll go by Timothy. Okay,
I'll call you Timothy. I have everything a man could
say they want, but I'm pretty chronically unhappy. I have
a fiance and we had a baby recently. She's a
year and a half old and the light of my life.

(57:35):
And we have two cats and a dog. The worst
thing about my living situation is living with my fiance's mom,
who is seventy and always talks in a baby voice
and pushes boundaries by always just being in our grill
and being Hella overbearing. I live in Texas, where weed
is illegal. I got in trouble twice consecutively for the

(57:57):
Penjamin and Bud after that six year to all I
wanted to do when I was twenty six and done
with that was travel. Wait, hold on, after that six
year debacle, did you get did you get thrown in jail?
What is the six year debacle? I'm gonna assume you
got thrown in jail, but I don't. Okay, anyway, all

(58:18):
I wanted to do when I was twenty six and
done with that was travel. I've already traveled a lot
as a kid to New York and London, but not
nearly as much as I wanted to. But almost right
after I got off probation, Okay, there it is, I
got with my fiance and we made our baby. Who
is my mini me. That's cute. I have a chronic
case of wanderlust, and I'm diagnosed to bipolar, depressive and

(58:39):
an insomniac. I deal with this by smoking and drinking constantly.
I know it's a terrible way to self medicate, and
I need to probably just get on meds like you
instead of killing my liver faster with alcohol. I'm not
on any SSRIs. I take stimulants and they're fucking great.

(59:02):
But anyway, but I've also had a plenty of times
where I was trying to where I also self medicate,
uh severely with you know, weed and alcohol and masturbation.
So you know, I mean we can we can kind
of go eye to eye on this. Uh, I probably

(59:25):
need to get on meds, like you instead of killing
my liver faster with alcohol. But it's a remedy that's
right there, and it's become habitual. That's the dude. That's
one of the hardest things about like taking fucking meds
is you go to the doctor and the doctor's like, Okay,
we have a thing and it might make your situation
a little bit better or it might make it way worse,

(59:47):
and you have to take it for three months to
find out. That's what getting on SSRIs is like. And
then and then alcohol is like, hey, you want to
make that you want to make that ship stop right
fucking now. Obviously you know it's not a good idea
you go into, you go into a form of emotional debt.
But again I'm not gonna say I don't get it.

(01:00:10):
I yearn for the empty roads, for the sites, for
the feeling of living something I should have at a
younger age. I'm only twenty nine now, but in eighteen years,
when my baby is bigger, I'll be damned near fifty.
My life as a kid was pretty traumatic, so substance
abuse issues when I was a kid were prevalent. But
now it's just the beer. My dad died drinking and

(01:00:30):
driving when I was eight, and my dad's dad was
a Vietnam vet who had PTSD and hardcore depression. He
drank himself to cirrhosis of the liver. I can't follow
these assholes to a young grave, mostly for my daughter,
but also I always told myself i'd break the cycle,
and here I am looking my daughter in the face,
debating when to take the first drink of the night,

(01:00:52):
closer to bedtime. I have a lot more to talk about,
and this isn't laid out the best, but Thanksghek for
everything you do. I've been listening for five years and
any advice would be great. Hmmm, you know, well a
few things. I mean, this is definitely real therapist stuff.
But I do have thoughts, you know, I will have

(01:01:17):
a lot of I have a lot of thoughts. Why.
I want to know, why are you unhappy? Because I'm
thinking about times in my life where I've like self
medicated with alcohol or weed er whatever it is, and
it's because I was unhappier because I was really stressed,
and you know, like you said, it's right fucking there,

(01:01:38):
you know, and then all these like external the mere
presence of external things in your life, like your fiance
and your baby and your your job and whatever. It like,
the mere presence of positive external things in your life
is useless if you can't if you don't have the

(01:02:04):
internal shit figured out to like appreciate them and like
dive into them, you know. I mean it also sounds
like you. I mean, yeah, you definitely have some kind
of like biological issue going on that you've got to

(01:02:25):
talk to a professional about. And I'm trying to think
of like advice just from my own experience of like
depression and substance shit. I mean, you're definitely you're doing
way better than your dad and your dad's dad did,

(01:02:46):
doing way better, doing way better than your dad and
your dad's dad did a because you're not I hope
you're not drinking and driving. You're not dead, and you see,
I don't know something about I don't know your dad.
I don't know your dad's dad. But I don't know
if your dad and your dad's dad ever had the
self awareness to, you know, send an email to a

(01:03:08):
lizard asking for advice, you know. I mean, that's a
bare minimum amount of self awareness that it seems like
you have. And I and that's the whole thing, right.
It's like knowing you have a problem as part of
solving the problem. So that's good. You seem to know
a lot about yourself, Timothy. You seem to know a
lot about yourself, which is great because some people they're

(01:03:32):
just floating right, Like, you know, you're just getting drunk
just because there's nothing else to do, and you're fucking
floating and you're you know, just feel like you're drowning.
But you got a lot of good information. You know,
you know that what you're experiencing is part of a
cycle from your family. You know that you love your daughter.

(01:03:52):
Some people don't know that. Some people don't Some people
like look at their kid and they're like, I don't
know if I like if I love this kid, or
some people look at their significant other and they're like,
I don't know about this person. But you see, you know,
I could tell that. You know, you know that you
like to travel. That's great. You know what you don't want?

(01:04:16):
You know you want to be a good dad. You
know you want to be a good husband. You know
you want to you know, you want to get better.
That's the thing. Some people don't want to get better.
Or they don't even know what to f they don't
even have like rolls to slip in, Like that's a
big thing that people get the just people get lost

(01:04:37):
to you know, they don't have a they don't have
somebody to be a good father to or to be
a good husband to, or they don't have a thing
in life to even like show up to. But you've
got some stuff that you know in your gut is

(01:04:57):
worth showing up to. And so if I had to
give any advice to this email, I would say like, well, okay,
you know, make a list or at least a mental
note of these things that you want to be and
you want to show up to and go from there,

(01:05:21):
because I don't think I don't know if you can
just I'm not a life coach or anything like that,
but I'm just like talking out of my ass here.
But I don't know if you can just like stop
drinking or stop whatever your negative behavior is. I think,
at least in my case, I've always had to replace

(01:05:43):
it with something else. Like if I'm like, for example,
if I'm addicted to porn, I'm addicted to like whatever
it is, and I'll notice if I'm in the if
I'm doing something that's positive, or I'm like fulfilling one
of my positive values or whatnot. I'll be like, oh shit,
it's been two days since I've jacked off and I

(01:06:07):
didn't even have to try, you know, because you're busy
on something else. I think that wander lust shit, because
I have that too. I think that comes from like
a we talked about it early in your episode, like
you want to fuck the world, you know, and sometimes

(01:06:30):
sometimes they just want you need a change of state,
or you're just like, dude, I'm trying to verbally express
a feeling I have in my gut right now, and
maybe some people understand it. But like, yeah, sometimes that
manifests in like beautiful stuff and the other times that
manifests in fucking drinking yourself to death. But shit, that

(01:06:53):
was a whole rant and ponder. I don't know if
those I don't know if this was helpful to you
in any way, Timothy, but hmmm, that's my takeaway. I
don't know if this is helpful for you just having
somebody else read this, But my main takeaway from this
is that in your email, you have lined, you have

(01:07:14):
outlined things that you care about, and so you have
a direction. I can't give you advice on I I
can't give you advice on how to move in that direction,
but I can just tell you my perspective reading this
email is that you have a direction, which is more
than most people have. So you know, take a look

(01:07:37):
at that. I hope that was helpful. Okay, Oh, here's this.
Oh I read this one off off the mic, just
like when I was I was just look at the
get mail on my phone and I thought it was
really funny. I took a screenshot of this and I
sent it to my group chat with my friends. That

(01:07:58):
got nine laugh reacts. Okay, this is from Tom subject
and this is from Tom. It just says, Hey, GEK,
just wondering why every episode is about sex lately everyone
just talks about sex. There isn't any therapy happening here.
Just talking about sex. Used to be really cool and

(01:08:19):
interesting stories told. Now it's just sex. Hope it gets
interesting soon. Exclamation points. I don't know what to tell you, Tom.
People really, people really like having sex. It's one of
the main things. It's it's it's real. Sex is really

(01:08:40):
our only it's the only like logistical meaning of life.
I think because we're humans. We try to kind of
come up with other things and they always end up
leading back to sex. But yeah, that's what that's like.
Our biological function, stay alive, reproduce. Humans are interesting. We

(01:09:05):
figured out a way to reproduce without the baby part.
Isn't that interesting? We were like, wait, this just feels good.
Let's just do it without the whole having a baby part.
Isn't that crazy? Like biologically we're supposed to reproduce once. Well,
I guess I don't like biologically, every time you have sex,

(01:09:29):
the purpose is to make a baby, cald You imagine
if every time you had sex you made a baby.
That's what they used to do. But we're geniuses. We
meant to condoms, we meant to contraceptives, and we were like,
let's just do it just for fun. And so people
are having fun. Now it's fun to you should try

(01:09:52):
having sex, Thomas. It's nice. I'm not even I'm not
saying that as like a diss too. You you might have
a lot of se you might have. I actually think
this this emailer has so much sex that the reason
they're tired of hearing about people talk about sex in

(01:10:12):
the podcast is because they're like, I have sex so
much in my regular life. I listen to the Therapy Gecko
podcast to get away from sex. And in that case, Tom,
I'm I'm sorry, but you know, out of control what
people say on here. I mean, I kind of do
a little bit. I you know, I'll edit out calls

(01:10:33):
that I don't want to put in the podcast. But
you know, sex is a universal concept. It's not even
like a human universal concept. It's like a biological universal concept.
So you know it's going to come up. That's all
I'm saying. This is from Rolin subject line twenty six

(01:10:55):
years old without social media, high Gecko. I'm a twenty
six year old male and I'm lit, and I no
longer have social media or scroll away hours of my
life on my phone. It's come with its drawbacks, but
not really the ones you'd think. I've gotten a lot
of my friends and family telling me to get off
my high horse, and I'm just trying to be different

(01:11:16):
and better than all of them. What that's crazy, By
the way, you are better than all of them. I
want you to know something. If you and this goes
to everyone, if you don't have social media, you you
are better than everyone else. If you don't have social
media and you don't eat meat, and you run five

(01:11:38):
miles a day and you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Like eat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Like fruits and vegetables, you are You're better than everyone else.
You are objectively much better of a human being. If
you like, if you give to charity, like you just
you just are you're better human being than everyone else.
And I think, I think you get to be. I
think the reward because it's a lot of work being
better than everyone else. And you know, it's a lot

(01:12:10):
of work to remove yourself from your vices and like
try to do the things you're supposed to do. And
part of the reward of that is that you just
get you get to be better than everyone else. It's
a it's a totally totally fair system. That's why I
don't care. I don't care if someone is pretentious to
me about their achievements or about like like if you

(01:12:33):
if we're talking and you're acting like you're better than
me because you don't eat meatia, you don't have social
media or whatever virtual or you read whatever virtue thing is.
I don't get offended at all. I think you're right
and you deserve to be able to do that. But
I also also, Rolin, I don't know you, but I
think you're a good guy. I don't even think you're
being a dick about it, which fucking makes you even better.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
That makes you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Oh my god, Roland, you're so much better than everyone
else because I can tell you're not being a dick
about it when you are well within your right to
be a dick about it. I'm impressed by you, Rolin. Okay,
let me finish reading, then email. I don't think that's
the case. I'm not like the annoying, overbearing preacher telling
people they must stop scrolling or they were perish in

(01:13:18):
the depths of hell. They can do what they want.
I just don't want to waste any more of my time.
I guess what really bothers me is that whenever someone
asks for my social media, I say I don't have
social media, and apparently that's a red flag. Hold on, Okay,
you don't know this because you don't have social media rollin,
But like, dude, there's a phenomenon going on. I've both

(01:13:38):
seen it on TikTok and I've like talked to people
about it, where like women want a man with no
social media, and I've some people have. I don't think
this is true. I don't think this is like in general,

(01:14:00):
but I've talked to a lot of people lately who
are like, I want a boyfriend with no friends who
plays sudoku in his room alone. I think there's a
lot of people who don't want that, but there's a
certain but like, actually, I think a lot of people
find that attractive, or like I'll see some TikTok where
it's like manifesting this and it's like an Instagram account

(01:14:22):
with no posts, no followers, and no one they're following.
So I don't think it's a red flag necessarily. Also
when I'm also like, I mean that whatever I gave
the dating aspect of it, but also like, if I
meet someone and they say they don't have any social media,
I immediately find them. I immediately am like, oh, you

(01:14:42):
actually genuinely are di from for everyone else. You're way
more interesting. I want to talk to you. You have
more interesting thoughts. I just believe that, So it's a
green flag. The follow up question is why don't you
have it? It bothers me because if I don't have
a real answer that makes any sense, Yes, you do,

(01:15:04):
you totally have a real answer that makes sense as
to why you don't have it. You don't have it
because it's a waste of your life. You don't have
it because it makes you It increases depression, and it
makes you compare your life to everyone else instead of
living your own life. It wastes a ton of time.
It makes you fucking anxious. Dude. The most calm I

(01:15:24):
fucking feel is if I go like a few days
without looking at my phone. My phone makes me so
fucking anxious. And we know it too, and we just
keep doing it. Sincerely, a social digital ghoes somewhere in
the middle of Canada. That would be depressing to me.

(01:15:45):
I was just in the middle of Canada at a
fun time. But it's too isolated from other people. I
think the Yeah, if you can just be around real
human beings, then you're good. I mean, have a phone,
have like a phone number, have a notes app. But

(01:16:06):
you're not missing anything, man, You're not missing an It's like,
I mean, whatever, I don't want to be the eight
hundredth person to go on this ramp. But it's like
we're just getting programmed, dude, We're just getting programmed. You
have a fresh, interesting mind. You're not programmed by anything.
Oh rollin. Your friends and family suck, dude. No, they

(01:16:32):
I don't know. I don't know them. I don't want
to say that, but I will say that you're better
than all of them. I'll say that with confidence. All right,
let's do a couple more emails. Subject line I did
copious amounts of Molly that I was meant to sell.
What's up? Ghek reezi Here, I'll get into it. My

(01:16:56):
friend got married in September of twenty twenty two. That
same night was first introduced to Molly. I remember my
friend telling me, whatever I do, do not take it
alone in my bedroom. Why so I did, and soon
regretted it after I began overthinking and hyperventilating because I
had zero knowledge on what the substance would do to me. Okay,

(01:17:18):
that makes sense. After a few minutes, I managed to
calm down by listening to music. I left my house
and crashed at a friend's place. He was pretty chill
about the situation. October was rolling around, No pun intended.
That was me saying that no pun intended. He did
not write no pun intended. October was rolling around, and
it was time for me to go back to college.

(01:17:40):
Here's where things get messy. I asked my friend for
another one to take with me to college, and then
he asked if I would be interested in taking a
whole bunch to sell, maybe young entrepreneur here. I agreed,
and there I was in my dorm with more Molly
than I know what to do with. For the next
series of days, I began just popping them will playing
niche custom games and Overwatch, and listening to music until

(01:18:04):
one night I realized nothing was happening anymore, no buzz
or restless feeling. I managed to sell only one pill
and completely used the rest safe to say, after paying
for the whole batch, I'm done with drugs altogether. The
next year felt odd. I was slightly less connected to everything,
slightly slower and more stoic, Even with the probable irreversible damage.

(01:18:27):
It was a somewhat profound experience. Easy thank you for sharing, Reezy.
I'm gonna say it, Molly is the best drug that
is invented. It's the best drug I've done. I haven't
done a full, full, full dose of molly in like
three and a half years, but I've done like a

(01:18:48):
teensy bit between now and then, And I mean, yeah,
it's the best, like a full and that's the way
to do Molly. You can't like do it every day.
It's not you can't do it every day because they'll
just fuck your ship up. And the first time you
ever do it is like as like nothing else, it's

(01:19:09):
the goddamn best. But yeah, I mean I've been to
music festivals before where people are like, yeah, we're gonna
do it every day of this four day festival and
they have a good time. But it's too much. It's
too much. How much was that whole thing of Molly

(01:19:30):
also doing it a lot? Also there's people who do it.
It's fun to do with. For I it's great to
do like like I don't go to the club. I
don't like the club, Like I don't have a good
time there. I think too much, I can. I can
only really say this as like an anxious overthinker on

(01:19:52):
drugs guy, is that there's there's certain drugs that like
take you put you, take you in, and then drugs
that take you out. And I'm a very in guy.
I'm always thinking, always in my head. I'm like, you
know whatever, Molly's fucking great because it just it like removed,
it like removes your ability to not be in the present.

(01:20:13):
Like I just, oh, I'm just so fucking present when
I'm on it, and and I don't even because and
when I'm there, I don't even give a shit with
what's around me. You know, if I'm like in these
if I'm like high in the club, I'm like, none
of these people would give a shit if I died.
And you know, I said that was trying to be
funny when I said that, but it came out depressing.

(01:20:38):
Sh I'm having a good time talking into this microphone.
I hope you guys are here with me, but yeah,
like acid or shrooms and stuff. I don't know why
people do that shit at music festivals, because it takes
you in where Molly just brings you out. So like
I've been like the last time I took Molly, I

(01:21:00):
was at some music festival like three years ago, and uh,
and then I got separated for the people I was with,
And then I just went back to the hotel and
I sat on the toilet and I had a fucking
I was just thinking about how much I love my life,

(01:21:23):
and I just had a great time alone on the
toilet doing molly, So you can do it on the toilet,
or you can do it with friends. What else can
you do on the It's one of the few things
that you can have a lot of fun doing both
alone on the toilet and with friends. Pooping only fun

(01:21:43):
alone on the toilet. There's a wider range of things
that are funner that are more fun to do alone
on the toilet than with friends. Pretty Much anything that
is fun to do with friends is also fun to
do alone on the toilet. Shitting and pissing is not

(01:22:06):
fun to do with Actually, I mean if you each
have your own toilet, I feel like, yeah, if you
if I mean yeah, if you're like out with your
friends and you're sitting at a bar and you take
a big shit and your friends all actually that sounds
fun too. If like, you're we're all out at a
sports bar and one guy's let and there's six of
you and one guy's like, hey, you guys, I want
to take shits together, and you do and you smell

(01:22:30):
bad and you're laughing and you're diarry ing and you're connecting.
They actually does that? Actually does sound more fun than
doing it alone. So never mind, I think there's I
think you'll have more fun. I think most things are
more fun to do with friends than alone on the toilet,
including pissing and shitting. All right, that was the Therapy

(01:22:51):
Eco podcast. I felt good about this one. I thought
it was fun. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Please
go to Therapy Gecko Tour and also check the link
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when I come to your city in twenty twenty six
or when I do my little quick New York shows.

(01:23:16):
I'm I'm telling some I'm coming out with my Iraq
videos soon, but you know, in the show, I'm gonna
tell some stories that are not in the video, and
I also have some other stories from my life and
travels and whatnot that I'm gonna tell. So you know,
I'm putting together a show that's gonna be like fifty

(01:23:37):
percent chatting with the audience, fifty percent doing comedy and
storytelling and stuff like that. So go check it out.
There be gecko tour dot com. I'm Lyle. I appreciate
you listening to the show. Thank you guys very much
for being here. I read all the Spotify comments alone
on the toilet because I'm insane. So oh, if you

(01:24:01):
want to so, if you want to say, if you
want to write something that you know for sure I
will see, that's the place to do it. Anyway, Thank
you guys, See you on the next. One goes on
the line, taking your phone calls every night, the bed
goes to his ride.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
He's teaching you

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
A loud in them of your life, but he's not
really an expert.

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