March 26, 2024 • 42 mins
Daniel sits down with Travis Nesbitt, founder of boy band cover group “The Boy Band Project,” to discuss everything from 90's pop to TRL, Broadway, and performing on cruise ships.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the kind of three. We both tell say how
many times we've shared our pants as an adult? Okay, one, two,
three thirty?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Probably I've shipped my pants a lot. Me too, really?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh my god, Tash Shaw Tosh Show to show. It's
podcast time and I'm your host, Daniel Tosh, host of
the Toss Show podcast, the only podcast that is non smoking,
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pet friendly and queer friendly. A lot going on, Eddie,
what's going on? Uh? The show has hit the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Cats out of the bag. The show has finally reached
my mother. I never told her that I was doing
a podcast, and the other day she calls me up
and she goes, Daniel, I've got two things to tell you,
all right, what is it? She goes one, it's illegal
in the state of Florida to record someone over the phone.
(01:15):
And I started laughing, and she goes getting ready for this.
She goes two, I'd like to be the intern. Wow,
that's what she said.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
She wants to be the intern. I said, I don't know, Mom,
you're not gonna move out here and you're not good
at stuff, so but we'll think about it. I had
never brought the show up to her, honest to God,
and and and now I know that she listens, and
you know what she said about it. She goes, oh, man,
(01:46):
it's just so many swear words. You're just swearing constantly.
So now now that I know she's listening, I'm gonna
be thinking about that. And now now I feel like
this show's not gonna be as free as it once
was because I've I've got that, I've got that little
thing on my shoulder. What is that little Margo cancer? No,
(02:11):
little Margo? Speaking of mothers was I was in Palm
Springs last week at the Indian Wells Tennis tournament, and
anytime a female tennis player is in it is playing
and she's a mother, they make such a big deal
about it, like, oh, look at a mother competing as
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a professional athlete. And I'm just not that impressed. Now
a grandmother, that's that's something to brag about. Yeah, if
there was a grandmother still competing as a pro tennis player,
but just a mother. I know, having a child is
a major ordeal. But once you've recovered and and your
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your back to your old physical shape and training, it's like,
we don't know if you're a good mom, right, make
me a shitty mom that just has somebody else doing everything.
And I'm not even saying that that means that you're
a shitty mom. But I'm just saying I just don't.
It's not that I need to know all the circumstances
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for me to be like I can't believe. And she's
playing tennis. I mean, my mom's played tennis every day
of her life. You don't see me singing her praises.
What a hero you raised us and you went out
and played tennis today. Ran into Michelle. We've had her
on the show. That interview is coming up soon. It's
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nice to see her. She introduced me to her husband,
and I'm like, oh my goodness, you look just like
your logo Djokovic. I don't care where you stand politically,
but if you like Djokovic, you're dead to me. I'm
not a fan of Novak Djokovic. And he lost to
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the lucky loser in the second round. Now, he's the
undisputed goat of tennis, and he lost to the lucky loser.
You know, the lucky loser is he's he's the guy
that didn't even get into the tournament. But somebody dropped
out and then he got to fill their place. Yeah,
and he upset joke and then immediately in the next
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round he just got his ass kicked. But whatever it was,
it was a life changing moment for him. I'm sure.
Do I remember his name, No, not at all, but
he's an American. I think I have no idea. I
came up with a joke. Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Eddie, I do?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Novak Djokovic, Aaron Rodgers, and Kyrie Irving walk into a bar.
The bartender pulls out a shotgun and blows his head off. Perfect,
you get it? Yeah, and then Aaron Rodgers and Djokovic
look at each other and go, oh, must be one
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of the side effects to the vaccine. Oh. They all laugh,
and then Elon Musk walks in.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Good joke.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's this joke. I haven't finished it. It's just gonna
be a long joke. All right, that's enough sports for
one episode. Let's talk to the founder of a boy
band cover group, Enjoy Pasha. We've set the studio a
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tempt to ninety eight degrees, so I'm in sync with
today's guest. He's no new kid on the block, and
ever Since creating the boy band Project, he's transformed his
boys to men. While heading in one direction cruise ships,
please welcome my favorite cover boy band, Mogul Travis.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Hello, thank you for having me, Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
This is my first question I ask all my guests. Okay,
do you believe in gay ghosts?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh? Gosh, gay ghosts, just ghosts. I don't believe in ghosts, really,
I know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, No, I wish I did, but I don' what
do you mean you wish? But basically what you said
to me is I wish I was stupid, But I'm
not stupid. I'm smart.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I kind of do wish that sometimes. Don't you wish
that that you didn't know the things that you know
that you have to know.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
No, I'm okay, all right, So you don't believe in ghosts.
That's great, I don't, Travis. You grew up in southern California. Yes,
where I.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Actually grew up in a little town called Norco. It's
next to Corona where the ninety one meets the fifteen.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I get you know it? No, No, I don't know
the town, but I know the area. But I also
get confused when people start saying highway numbers. I know
ninety one goes straight out like to the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, it's in the Inland Empire. Yeah, for sure, I.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Say, do you ever say Inland Empire? Do you say? I? E?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I try not to, but I sometimes I have to
to get the message across.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Is it conservative out there?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah? How'd that affect you?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean I didn't really come out until I was nineteen,
and I knew that I was going to go to
the East and then I just went crazy over there.
So I kind of kept a lid on it until
I went over there because I knew it wouldn't be
fun in the ie.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
How was he gay?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Oh, there's no gay bars. There was no gay people
at school.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Did you ever date a girl?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I did? Yeah, she's in this room.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Actually, I won't get too into the details of that relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
She's married now to a wonderful man named Dylan, who's
also gay. I haven't heard that. I have heard that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Were you obsessed with music growing up?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes? I guess it was just my life. My mom's
a music teacher. It wasn't like, are you going to
play an instrument? Is what instrument? Are you going to play?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Do you play everything? I don't, do you play anything.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I play the piano and I play the trumpet.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Kind of the trumpet.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, it'sul I know it really nobody nobody wants to
hear it. They put it in the back of the
orchestra because it's loud and annoying. And I wasn't any
good at all.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The piano, though, is just wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm furious at my parents. Everyone, my parents, all my
siblings can all play the piano and I can't play
the piano. And I asked my mom, why didn't you
force me to take lessons? And she's like, oh, you
didn't want to. You never wanted to. And I'm like, well,
I go, so you just listen. She's like, I wasn't
gonna fight with you to play the piano.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
My mom. I didn't really want to play, but my
mom was a concert pianist, so she was like, you
don't get allowance until you play the genius. And so
now I know how to play, and you're thankful for it.
I am.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I am actually saying how cool is to have a
piano in your place? Great?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I actually I don't feel comfortable unless there's an acoustic
piano in the place that I live. Is that weird?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No? But I actually just wanted the piano just because
I like the way it looks.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, it is kind of cool looking, right right, it's sophisticated.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like I just want something like cool stand up, Yeah,
like old school, Yes, probably black, I think. Talk to
me just about you were an off Broadway show Altar Boys. Yeah,
so five hundred app how long did you do that? Ideas?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So the show ran for five years off Broadway and
I did the last year and a half of it
and I did five hundred and fifty five performances. And
it's a musical about a boy a Catholic boy band
saving the souls of New York through their singing, singing
and hip hop dance. It's basically a recreation of a
boy band concert on stage, but with like a lot
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of like different comedy about the different idiosyncracies of being
in a boy band and like whatnot if that makes sense.
So yeah, so I did that for a year and
a half off Broadway closed it.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
First of all, I'm just curious, what's your do you have?
Are you familiar with the Catholic Church, what's your stance
on the Catholic Church. I have a stance on altar boys.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I have no stance on the on alter boys. Really, like,
I don't even really know about Catholicism. Besides, like what
what the lyrics that I had to sing? I mean,
I grew up like more Pentecostal.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Sure you know well these two. But I still despise
everything the Cowtholic church like I would. There's like a
Catholic church like near a home, and I make my
kids walk fast past it. Really why, Well, because you
know who's never been sexually assaulted in a Catholic church?
Is a kid who's never been inside a Catholic church.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So that that's I'm playing those odds only right. I
don't care if it's one in a billion, you're not going.
I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, people who are not a fan of the ch
who love the Catholic like the Catholic religion, actually loved
to show because we did poke fun at it a lot.
I mean a lot of people also thought that we
were ministering to them, which was was bizarre.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Be straight with me for one moment. The musical rent
true or false? The worst musical on Broadway.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
False, that was my jam? Are you kidding me? I
love it. I used to pop in that CD and
I thought like, oh, yeah, I know, I'm listening to
rock music. Now this is my jam.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I married a woman who just listens to the Broadway
channel on satellite radio all the time, and I just, oh,
it's just it's not so bad. Well, I mean some
of it. I get you get into it. You start
picking favorites real quick. On the count of three, we
both tell say how many times we've shared our pants
as an adult? Okay, one, two, three, thirty?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Too many? I'm thirty. Probably shipped my pants a lot?
Me too? Really? Oh my god, I really think I
have a problem. I should talk to a doctor about it.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What do you do when you're performing? Uh? Like, like,
has it ever having Broadway? Like you're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, one time I took a pee break on in
the middle of a scene in the show once because
I had to.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm not talking about pee about diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh I never have to ship on stage.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
For some reason, I thought you said you ship your pants.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, I just daily life though.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, But but your stomach doesn't get upset or nervous
before a performance, ever, and you have to like empty
everything out.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not that way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh good for you. You know you're not living my
life at all. I've been on I've been on a toilet,
just exploding, and I hear them introducing me, and I'm like, well,
I'm not coming.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's devastating. So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Just let them deal with whatever they got to deal
with out there.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Show must go on.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No it doesn't. The show doesn't go on.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Show doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Show. The show waits until I'm finished, right, and then
and then I get out there, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it was in the back. It's cocaine.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And they all laugh, Oh the cokeshits. No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I don't do cocaine. I just say something stupid to
move on. All right, But it's okay, but you've crapped yourself.
That's good. Everyone talks about Broadway. It's just a tough
place to make a living, especially the most expensive city, uh,
certainly in our country is off Broadway. Even worse, what
are we looking at? What kind of income can you
make a on a hit show off Broadway?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Off Broadway? I was pulling in like one thousand dollars
a week, which is which is nothing for New York.
Like we were we felt like rock stars, but we
were broke as a joke. I mean, we were going
on TV shows, but we were spending all of our
money for our studio apartments in Hill's kitchen and barely
squeaking by. But it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
How'd you get into How'd you make the jump? Say? Oh,
I have an idea this boy band Project.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I did Alter Boys for a long time, and it
was I was kind of getting sick of like the
up and down roller coaster of like, okay, now what
do I do? Scramble audition and then you get something,
but then that gig is still like six months away,
so you got to figure out what to do in
that time. So I was like, I have all of
these friends who look like they could be in a
boy band. Let me keep this going. And I was
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getting a lot of like gigwork because I had a
certain notoriety from being in that show for so long.
And so I created my own entity, which is the
Boyband Project, which is essentially a contemporary boyband cover group.
So we cover in Sync and Backstreet Boy but with
like expert Broadway vocals. Choreography and whatnot. It started as
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like a party act and then slowly turned into like
performing arts centers and cruise ships and now we're here
in LA.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Only in sync and backstreet boys? Or do you do
all the boy bands?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
We do all like the contemporary ones. So it's like
circa two thousand and ninety two nineties, right, So you
do LFO.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We do LFO just just the one song.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's the only song that's worth singing. Yeah, Otown?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
What song? Otown? All or Nothing?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All or Nothing, Liquid Dreams.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I actually like All or Nothing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's the problem with you know, Like I can listen.
I appreciate Tool, I like that rock and roll, but
it's like I still I like All or Nothing by
O Town.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, well you're well rounded then.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't know if that's the right word, but sure.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
No. It's funny because in high school, like I mean
I was, I was low key obsessed with these boy bands.
But so we're like all of my straight friends in choir,
and we would like we would play all or Nothing
and just sing like it was like our our everything,
like this was our freaking song. We'd look into each
other's eyes and just sing all or nothing to this day, like,
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it's still my favorite song. I created the show, so
I get to sing what I want to sing, and
that's the song that I always pick for myself.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I freaking love it.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I also like the statement my straight friends in choir, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Because they were all straight. I mean, it's anya, I think.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So I don't know this. This isn't a contemporary boy band.
But do you consider what's you McCall it? What's that
group that everybody thinks is the greatest band of all time?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
The Beatles?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
The Beatles? Yeah, you consider the Beatles of boy band?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah for sure, Okay, but not like there's a lot
of people that cover those, you know, And so I
try to stick to the two decades. No, let's part
of the group just because nobody else is doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
How many people are in your group?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So it's four on stage at a time, But I've
got a roster of like probably about twenty guys in
New York City that know the show. And so the
business model that I created, well is that when they're
not in a Broadway show, like remember how I told you,
there's usually had six months in between your contracts. Sometimes
you book the greatest gig ever, but you're still broke
as a joke until you get there. And so they
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they like, hey, i've got six months off, can you
put me in a boy band? And so I get
them gigging on cruise ships. I send them to la.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What's your thought on cruise ships?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
They're horrid awful. It's tough, right, but the money is
so good, and they treat if you're a headliner. You're like,
you've got it made. You're a prince. You get your
own cabin with a balcony. It's free meals. You we
do a seven day contract and we do work one
day and I get paid for the whole week.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And you're so coming off of of struggling to make
ends meet in New York City. It's a breath of
fresh air.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Oh people. And the boys love it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And by the boys, you mean you're the group. Yeah,
isn't it weird calling the boys though? What's the age?
What's the age range of your boys?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I mean anywhere from forty five to down to another direction,
like twenty three.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
There's no actual boys in the boys band, That's all
I'm getting at, right.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's more of lake. You're all men, yeah, I guess,
or men that never grew up?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah? Are you all sexy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Is there any dogs in the bunch? You know, like
like sometimes I'll like look at I'll stare at like, uh,
you know, I'm in Vegas and you see an ad
for Thunder from down Under or Magic Mike yea, and
you look at them together and like all these are
beautiful men. But then when you start looking at them individually,
like all right, this guy.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is distorting one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, this guy get white evolved?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Who's he related to? Right?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Anyway? So are most of you guys all very attractive?
Was the question?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, I will say yes.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Any straight guys in the group, yes, multiple.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, Oh that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah. I mean they don't dance as well?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
What's the rule you have to dance? You know? So
so generally the guys or the boys that have this
certain skill set to be in the boy band project
end up being gay. We've got I've got a lot
of straight guys who are freaking awesome with it and
they're just down with what.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Are they appropriating gay culture?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
No? Because no, because the bands were they were gay,
they weren't. I mean some you know, sure, Metro maybe
you know, you know, I think I think there is
something inherently gay about being in a boy band, maybe
just because of the ability to express your emotion really freely,
you know that. Agree, you know there's no stoicism with
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being in a boy band, Then like, why why watch
them if they're not going to like bear their soul
to you in a song?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Speaking of bearing your soul? How have you have you?
Have you dove into this new Britney Spears book yet? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No? No, but I want to.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Write you no. But every time I read like justin
Timberlake paid for an abortion, I just get so excited.
I'm like, what why do I love that head?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It just makes me so nervous.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Because you know he's at home right now with his
wife going fucking shot. This crazy bitch is in sync
doing a comeback tour. Good for business or bad for business?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Good for business? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, has Joey Fatone asked to join?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Not yet? No?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What's he doing?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
What? What horrible pizza sauce is he selling?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's a French onion dip.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He's got a French onion dip. Oh congratulations? Do you
ever do any songs? From the ninety eight degree Christmas album.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yes this gift, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
My wife went and saw that show, I think last
year the year before. She was so excited. And then
afterwards she was going to meet one of them, but
she didn't meet the one she had, the one that
nobody likes, thee Yeah, I know, you only want to
meet Lee. Yeah, right, And here the brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's two brothers, and then the hot one with the muscles.
He was my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I don't know. But then there's like the other guy
that just looks like he should be.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Do you do you ever sing any girl songs? Or no?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All right about k pop? Do you ever do any
k pop songs?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Not yet?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I worry. I'm before you put your toe into that arena.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Were there any black boy bands?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Boys to men?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
You consider them a boy band?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah? I don't know why I don't because they don't dance.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
They dance. They dance their fucking asses off. Okay, let
me tell you that that. I say this nicely. The
fat one, he's not really that fat. He's just slightly
bigger than the other ones. He's a dancing machine. I
know this because they opened Uh, they don't. They didn't
open for me, but they were on the show in
front of mine in Vegas for many years. But they
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can move. Boy bands always have a specific character for
each person, the heart throb, the goofy one. Which one
are you?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm the boy nextor I didn't know that was one.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The boy next door? All right? What other what are there?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So in our group we have the sensitive one, we
have the bad boy, we have the boy next door,
and we have the sporty one.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So the boy next door is really kind of the
heart throb. That's what I would kind of Yeah, did
you give yourself that? Do you say I'm taking this one?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I kind of floated around for a little bit, like
I wanted it to be an organic choice.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Really, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I started as the sensitive one, but then there was
a guy in the group that was just like, so
fricking sensitive.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And so the gay community has criticized your productions for
not being gay enough. When you originally came out that
you thought this was who I'm targeting to and that
was the feedback.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Or yeah, I mean it started out because because I
was I just knew so many people in gay entertainment,
you know, I knew. I like, I was like, Okay,
I created a show, let me pitch it to the
venues that I know the people at. So I went
to the gay places and you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Know, I mean, how many drag shows can you have
before you need to throw in something different?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, I know that. I didn't know if that was
wrong to say.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, no, absolutely, because so we do a show called
Boyband Brunch in New York, which I call the alternative
to drag Brunch. But going back to what you said
about the gay world, it was like it was because
we weren't really saying, like, our songs weren't about being gay.
You know, none of the boy band songs are about
being gay. Your show's not about about being gay. So
why are you doing this in gay places all the time?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And then we slowly discovered that we would perform in
gay places like we we headlined at Gay Ski Week
and Aspen and.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I've never been I've been a gay ski Week and
tell you Ride, which was wonderful. Yeah, but I've never
been a Gay Ski Week and ask it was fabulous
that happened on all different resorts.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Huh oh. Yeah, I had the best outfit for Gay
Ski Week. It was freaking amazing. Was it was just
like we we had like, well, one of the guys
had like a rainbow fur jacket, and then I had
just this like hot pink jumper. Is that what you
call it? Like a bib ski bib jumper?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Thanks? Called ski bib? Is it? Yeah? I'm pretty sure
it is. Oh okay, but I mean you can call.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It jump, but it's sure okay ski bib. Yeah. It
was fabulous.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So did you did you ski there an Aspen?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Because we didn't even ski, We just wore outfit we
had the opportunity to and we were like, oh, we're tired,
but yeah, so we were. We sold out the show
and we got on stage and it was filled with
middle aged women. We're like, how did I don't even
think that these people live in Aspen? Like how did
they find out about the show? And so that was
(23:50):
like a moment where I was like, we're marketing this
to the wrong audience. And then we kind of switched
and then it really started to take off from then.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Is it fun just sing to these women? No, it's
the us.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's freaking amazing, you know. They they treat us like
we are in sync. You know, we go in these
cruise ships and they're like, for our autographs, we'll do.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Any of this. Straight boys ever try to hit on
their fans, And is that frowned upon?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Because I bet I bet they they think they're there
in a safe zone. Next thing they know is like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean, that's a great idea, first rate guy. If
they're really licking. I mean, I don't know. I've never
clocked it, though.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Have you ever tried to get a show in Vegas?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
In Vegas? No? Not yet?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, all right, let's stop right now because I got
connections and I want fifty percent, no five five percent,
you got it of the profit? Yeah, I mean it
seems insane. This seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I mean, we just made it to La I know.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But doing the I'm saying Vegas is like your your
cruise ships. They've got all the money in the world
be in Vegas. I know, but it's not. I mean, listen,
even if it's small stints, you know, maybe it's like
you get a residency at a place where it's just
I don't know, pick a cool day. Yeah, the first
(25:12):
Thursday of every month, and you know, everybody different. Four
fly in, nice hotel, nice food, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Okay, that'd be great. Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
This is a no brainer. It's easy. I just don't
know what casino is right for the boy band project.
I have to think about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Planet Hollywood, what all right?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're no, you're fired. When you're singing to liquored up
fifty year old women on stage, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think, God, bless you, thank you for being here
tonight and spreading your love with us and allowing us
to sing to you. Now, they're the reason that we
do it. You know I wouldn't We love them. They're great,
and you know they love that. I mean, because we
are mostly gay, like, it's very safe space for them.
(25:59):
So it becomes a very like interactive show. Sometimes I
mean you touch sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
They do, they touch. Do they get inappropriate? Oh yeah yeah.
They don't ever get called out for that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's interesting, no, because you know, as long as they're
tip tipping us, sometimes it ends up being like magic
Mike meets in sinking backshit Boys.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay, so there is grinding, half ening.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
There's a lot of grinding.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, yeah, okay, you do you do?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You do?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You have a specific song where you bring someone on
stage and do all this stuff to do you tie
them into a chair?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
We don't tie them.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I feel like that's tricky.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
One of the producers, Pete, his his wife. She got
brought up on stage on magic mic and they just
all of them just or on top of her, rub
and her doing it. Then they brought her up into
the air like crazy high. She was suspended, but they
like the whole time they were like grinding and they're like, okay,
you're gonna go up in the air, really are and
(27:01):
you know if you have a do you have any
heart conditions?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Right then and there. She's signed to release.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Some version of that. But he got jealous when they
she got home. Didn't like it. I didn't like that
she did it. I don't know why I got jealous,
But that's just him. Are you married?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
How long have you been married?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Married for three years but together for fifteen?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
How many of those years fifteen? Faithfully?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
In gay world?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Is that different? Does that change when you get married?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, no, Well that is insane to me. Really, yes, why,
I mean, I I just it's like, that's not marriage
to me, like marriage, you have to have the part
where you don't get to ever do that.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It's a Mi Israel part. Yes, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, like I get mad at my friend who is bisexual.
He always like, oh, if I'm in a relationship with
a man, He's like, I can still occasionally be with
a woman. I'm like, no, that's not. You don't get
an out. That's fucking bullshit. You have to you have
to The whole point is one if if I knew
that was on the table, like.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh emotionally one okay, Well why why put your relationship
in a box?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I mean you're preaching to the choir. I need you
to talk to the other. Do you think that's very
common when you said, like in the gay.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
World that that I know very little gay couples that
are like one hundred percent monogamous in a long term relationship.
And I can't even think of one David Sedaris no way. Really,
that's just what I just wanted to.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
That I thought would probably be monogamous. He seems like
reclusive sorts. Maybe, Well, here's what I've learned in my
life is that there is every version of every type
of relationship. So I'm sure there's tons and tons of
monogamous gay Oh I'm are looking at you right now
(28:59):
and going asshole, and you get to go have your
cake and eat it too.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Maybe they should try it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I don't know, no, because then you can't try it.
It has to be something that has to.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Be established in one I don't think so you.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Can't be monogamous for fifteen years and then be like, hey, honey,
I got an idea. How about I start fucking banging
somebody else?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
If it's either out of the highway, right.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't marry somebody that wouldn't be like, yeah,
I'll take the highway.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
True. True, But if you're going to be happier if
you go down this road together, or you make a
decision to be happy apart.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Listen, I know it can't happen for me. But if
you told me, hey, you're going to have the career
that you want to have and blah blah blah, and
you're gonna be able to take care of your family
and all of this stuff, but you have to be
faithful to one person. Would you take the deal, and
(29:56):
I say, yeah, take the deal.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So that's the way I look at because I think
if I'm out in the world right now, I'm going
to put myself in a bad situation eventually totally.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But I mean, in my experience, I found that because
it's open.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You don't put yourself in a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
No, I don't. I don't act on it. Oh, you know,
because there's no real there's no barbed wire fence around
my relationship. I just stay put.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I don't like that you referred to my relationship as.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
A barbed wire fence, just a metaphor.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You think your ex girlfriend out there cheats on her husband.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
No, I don't think she does.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Everybody that comes on the show, I give them a gift,
but I don't buy gifts. I just take stuff from
my house that I'm like, why do I have this?
And I get rid of it. Okay, okay, what's I sue?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Are you nine and a half? Oh? I got the
shut up?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And they light up when the wheels roll. But they're
too big?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh no, what size are they?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know. You give me, but you can regift
them to somebody and then you'll be fine. I think
they say twelve.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
They're twelve. It's worth three pairs of socks.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Listen, whatever. I just thought that you might like them
because they're kind of cool and they light up. Thank you,
you're welcome. This is very sweet. I actually wrote them
one time and I fell very hard.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Really, yeah, that's really sad.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, what are you gonna do, Lou Pearlman. You're doing
a show about him? What's that about.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, so we're doing a musical. He's a piece of shit, right,
piece of shit? Yeah? Yeah, okay, and the musical definitely
makes that clear.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, So it's about the creation of Otown, but it's
also the parallels between Lou Pearlman and Colonel Parker, who
was the manager for Elvis, and they both stole the money.
And then there was one guy and the show is
called the Manager, and so he was the associate manager
of with Colonel Parker and Lou Pearlman who worked on Otown.
(31:54):
And I got a call from a producer who wanted
a boy band, and they wanted an actual boy band
to come in and play O Town, And so we
both brought the crew in this month to do it.
We're shopping it right now.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I have an idea for you if you want to.
It's probably not a good idea, but get old people.
They can sing like a choir, and I want them
to look like they would be like, you know, traditional
God believe in whatever, folks, but anyway, and I just
want them to do cover songs of Two Live Cruise
Songs Crew. They were a nasty, very a rap group
(32:33):
from South Florida in the late eighties that they're the
ones that created the parental advisory sticker for albums. I
love it, but I just want to hear those songs
that Couci. They had songs like that. Yeah, you would
know some of their songs, the Cucci song. Well, well
it's not you understand that. I'm trying to think of
(32:57):
some other popular Two Live Cruise doesn't matter you watch.
Somebody else is going to take this idea. I just
wanted to exist. I don't want any credit. Fuck Mary
kill you ready?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh God?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
In Sync? Backstreet Boys ninety eight degrees.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh fuck ninety degrees for sure? God, that is really hard.
That's like Sophie's choice.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well, here we are.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'd marry in Sync because they have more money, Right's right?
Kill the Backstreet Boys, But I would I would be devastated.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
About it, and I have now the Backstreet Boys is
the right choice to kill. What's your favorite Backstreet Boy song?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I want it that way?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
What was the music video to that?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's where they're on the plane, you know, they getting
off the plane and they're all wearing all white and
the fans are like, you know, going crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I remember that TRL.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Did you love it?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Loved it? Never missed an episode.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
As as an adult now and living in New York,
when you go buy that old that window where it was,
do you ever look up there and think about the
days that people would just be all out in the street.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I used to. I haven't in a while now that
you mention it. It's been gone a very long time.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I know, I know. It was such a such a
part of culture back then. Carson Daily, did you like
him or hate him?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I thought he was annoying. He was really annoying, yeah
you know, but I mean he was such an icon
for the moment, right for music.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I like that guy that they had when they had
that contest to like become a VJ. And he talked
with like a crazy voice, and he looked like like
a homeless person, and he had hair that was all
out here.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I do not remember that, Jesse. I do not remember that.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I did.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I wore the contest, and then the reason he won
is because American kids were fucking hysterical and they picked
the guy that was clearly fucking methed out.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh Jesus, you remember Jesse Oh yeah, you guys remember
him absolutely, Jesse Camp.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, man, yeah, it comes to New York to hang
with us, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I wonder what he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm sure it's fucking dead podcast. It's is dead. There's
one of the other You ever perform original songs for
your group and do people get furious either love it?
No they don't.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah they do because we'll like we do actually, but
they're within the style of millennium boy band.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
You ever listen to do a cover of in Together?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
What was that? Map?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Together Together? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, we have the calculus.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I know my calculus. Yeah. Hardest part of breaking up
is getting back your stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I just remember Chris Farley's brother in that and that
always made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh that's right, I forgot that was Chris Farley's brother.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You recently launched the Girl Band Project. Who's harder to
manage the boys or the girls?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Girls? It's so much harder than I thought. Well, probably
because I spent ten years working with boys and and
I was like, okay, I'll just you know, dude, girls
and I'll just jump in there and it'll be the same.
And it was just so different, like I can't I
don't know if it's because it was a guy like
talking to women and telling them exactly what to do
(36:13):
and where to be and what to wear and how
to do it. Our first show almost had a mutiny
and I thought they were going to show up and
it ended up being fabulous, but I had to take
them out to lunch and be like, what am I
doing wrong?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Here?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You guys are great? Like why is this working?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Did you fix the problem?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Not yet? Okay, well I've been a little scared to
do it since then. Little PTSD, gotcha, where do you
like to vacation? I just went to Marrakesh for my
fortieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Really, I look at you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know, I'm old. I told you I know, botas.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, yeah, you look good, You're you're just forty. I
just turned forty. Yeah, good job. Thank you job son
of them, bitch. I wanted you to be thirty four.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I want to be thirty four.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
All right, Where else have you been?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Buenos Aida?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Is?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I went for my bachelor party?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Did you cheat on your uh, your partner at your batch?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I didn't do that. That's a little on the nose.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I've got standards.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, is it not called cheating?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No, you haven't called cheating because there's no rules, right, Okay,
so it's just who get it done?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Who cheats more in your relationship?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Me?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Is he older or younger?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
He's he's older, he's seven years older.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
My age, but still younger. I bet you had one
hell of a reception at your wedding. Yeah. Did you
sing at your wedding?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
No? Hell no?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Oh? Why is that a hell no?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Because it's work?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I still.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Did you do a podcast at your wedding?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
No? No, no, I did to shit. There you go,
but I was occasionally funny. How many people were at
your wedding?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Well, we did destation, but I was one hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Fuck off? Yeah, you made a hundred people go someplace?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I did a destination. I got sixteen.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Where is your destination really? Oh see, we just did
province down.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, well that's different.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You don't need a passport.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I had to get a passport for my father in law.
This guy found out he had never left the country.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh, devastating vacations in America.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That might be the funniest thing I've ever heard. How
often are you performing with the group?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You know? Sometimes I get so sick of it. I mean,
I've been doing it for ten years now and so
that's a lot of boy banding all the time. And
I love boy bands, So every once in a while
it's just time to step back and creative control it,
you know, and make sure that everything is is great
and make sure that the show is intact, and take
a well needed break from it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I love it, though, Well what what about your age?
Will you ever say? WHOA wait a second, I'm getting
up there. It's not yeah, I have to pass the
baton down.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I'm sure that will happen eventually. But I also think, like,
because the nature of the show is is comedy, Like
we're not really taking it serious. It's about being funny
and fun and kind of like knocking fun at what
the boy band genre is.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Right, I mean, it's what the boy bands should have
been to begin.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
With, right, But I think as we get into the
middle age, I think it gets funnier.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You don't, No, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Maybe that's just what I'm telling myself so I can
continue to have a performances.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Lawyers, you can get out there and still do it
that listen. I wish you all the success. I hope
the boy band project makes you tons of money for
fifty years and you can just sit back and enjoy
the fruits of your labor. Thank you, Thank you for
being on here.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I appreciate it. Thank you very much. This is fun.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Thank you, Pasha. Well, Carl, that does it, Travis, thank
you for being on the show. And be extra careful
on those roles. Skates, Carl, you believe it. He's roller
skating in his own house. It's dangerous. Boys wear, Pink.
I want to thank everybody for scamming the system and
(40:12):
buying all the totes. We are now sold out of totes,
so buy hoodies now, just buy hoodies please? All right,
what else is going on? We got some tour dates
coming up. Check us out as we travel around the country, right, Carl,
Eddie'll be with us. Oh, it'd be good fun. And
(40:32):
I got a big announcement. You ready for this? Should
we get one of Eddie's drum rolls? Eddie want to
do a drum roll? You know? No, you'll scratch that.
Instead of a drum roll, why don't you give me
some cool background music while I make this big announcement
about the goat. It comes out May ninth. That's all
I needed, Eddie. Thanks. May ninth, three episodes will be
(40:56):
dropped on Amazon Prime. Yeah. Then after that Bezos will
release them however he sees fit. Don't question the algorithm,
all hailed Jeff. All right, Carl's asleep. Let's hear one
more bedtime story from my son.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
See you next week, went Caupine time in one one
What saw so Solway City? Where the wind the people
and then they are Baba and Nini. The one will
bright ray and when they're bright blue, and they would
(41:41):
right into white bread and white browed talls along, But
the brewdy didn't no put them in, and they yelled,
I didn't no human A scientist hold on
On the kind of three. We both tell say how
many times we've shared our pants as an adult? Okay, one, two,
three thirty?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Probably I've shipped my pants a lot. Me too, really?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh my god, Tash Shaw Tosh Show to show. It's
podcast time and I'm your host, Daniel Tosh, host of
the Toss Show podcast, the only podcast that is non smoking,
(00:39):
pet friendly and queer friendly. A lot going on, Eddie,
what's going on? Uh? The show has hit the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Cats out of the bag. The show has finally reached
my mother. I never told her that I was doing
a podcast, and the other day she calls me up
and she goes, Daniel, I've got two things to tell you,
all right, what is it? She goes one, it's illegal
in the state of Florida to record someone over the phone.
(01:15):
And I started laughing, and she goes getting ready for this.
She goes two, I'd like to be the intern. Wow,
that's what she said.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
She wants to be the intern. I said, I don't know, Mom,
you're not gonna move out here and you're not good
at stuff, so but we'll think about it. I had
never brought the show up to her, honest to God,
and and and now I know that she listens, and
you know what she said about it. She goes, oh, man,
(01:46):
it's just so many swear words. You're just swearing constantly.
So now now that I know she's listening, I'm gonna
be thinking about that. And now now I feel like
this show's not gonna be as free as it once
was because I've I've got that, I've got that little
thing on my shoulder. What is that little Margo cancer? No,
(02:11):
little Margo? Speaking of mothers was I was in Palm
Springs last week at the Indian Wells Tennis tournament, and
anytime a female tennis player is in it is playing
and she's a mother, they make such a big deal
about it, like, oh, look at a mother competing as
(02:34):
a professional athlete. And I'm just not that impressed. Now
a grandmother, that's that's something to brag about. Yeah, if
there was a grandmother still competing as a pro tennis player,
but just a mother. I know, having a child is
a major ordeal. But once you've recovered and and your
(02:56):
your back to your old physical shape and training, it's like,
we don't know if you're a good mom, right, make
me a shitty mom that just has somebody else doing everything.
And I'm not even saying that that means that you're
a shitty mom. But I'm just saying I just don't.
It's not that I need to know all the circumstances
(03:17):
for me to be like I can't believe. And she's
playing tennis. I mean, my mom's played tennis every day
of her life. You don't see me singing her praises.
What a hero you raised us and you went out
and played tennis today. Ran into Michelle. We've had her
on the show. That interview is coming up soon. It's
(03:41):
nice to see her. She introduced me to her husband,
and I'm like, oh my goodness, you look just like
your logo Djokovic. I don't care where you stand politically,
but if you like Djokovic, you're dead to me. I'm
not a fan of Novak Djokovic. And he lost to
(04:03):
the lucky loser in the second round. Now, he's the
undisputed goat of tennis, and he lost to the lucky loser.
You know, the lucky loser is he's he's the guy
that didn't even get into the tournament. But somebody dropped
out and then he got to fill their place. Yeah,
and he upset joke and then immediately in the next
(04:24):
round he just got his ass kicked. But whatever it was,
it was a life changing moment for him. I'm sure.
Do I remember his name, No, not at all, but
he's an American. I think I have no idea. I
came up with a joke. Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Eddie, I do?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Novak Djokovic, Aaron Rodgers, and Kyrie Irving walk into a bar.
The bartender pulls out a shotgun and blows his head off. Perfect,
you get it? Yeah, and then Aaron Rodgers and Djokovic
look at each other and go, oh, must be one
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of the side effects to the vaccine. Oh. They all laugh,
and then Elon Musk walks in.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Good joke.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's this joke. I haven't finished it. It's just gonna
be a long joke. All right, that's enough sports for
one episode. Let's talk to the founder of a boy
band cover group, Enjoy Pasha. We've set the studio a
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tempt to ninety eight degrees, so I'm in sync with
today's guest. He's no new kid on the block, and
ever Since creating the boy band Project, he's transformed his
boys to men. While heading in one direction cruise ships,
please welcome my favorite cover boy band, Mogul Travis.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Hello, thank you for having me, Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
This is my first question I ask all my guests. Okay,
do you believe in gay ghosts?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh? Gosh, gay ghosts, just ghosts. I don't believe in ghosts, really,
I know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, No, I wish I did, but I don' what
do you mean you wish? But basically what you said
to me is I wish I was stupid, But I'm
not stupid. I'm smart.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I kind of do wish that sometimes. Don't you wish
that that you didn't know the things that you know
that you have to know.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
No, I'm okay, all right, So you don't believe in ghosts.
That's great, I don't, Travis. You grew up in southern California. Yes,
where I.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Actually grew up in a little town called Norco. It's
next to Corona where the ninety one meets the fifteen.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I get you know it? No, No, I don't know
the town, but I know the area. But I also
get confused when people start saying highway numbers. I know
ninety one goes straight out like to the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, it's in the Inland Empire. Yeah, for sure, I.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Say, do you ever say Inland Empire? Do you say? I? E?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I try not to, but I sometimes I have to
to get the message across.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Is it conservative out there?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah? How'd that affect you?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean I didn't really come out until I was nineteen,
and I knew that I was going to go to
the East and then I just went crazy over there.
So I kind of kept a lid on it until
I went over there because I knew it wouldn't be
fun in the ie.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
How was he gay?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Oh, there's no gay bars. There was no gay people
at school.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Did you ever date a girl?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I did? Yeah, she's in this room.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Actually, I won't get too into the details of that relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
She's married now to a wonderful man named Dylan, who's
also gay. I haven't heard that. I have heard that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Were you obsessed with music growing up?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes? I guess it was just my life. My mom's
a music teacher. It wasn't like, are you going to
play an instrument? Is what instrument? Are you going to play?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Do you play everything? I don't, do you play anything.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I play the piano and I play the trumpet.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Kind of the trumpet.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, it'sul I know it really nobody nobody wants to
hear it. They put it in the back of the
orchestra because it's loud and annoying. And I wasn't any
good at all.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The piano, though, is just wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm furious at my parents. Everyone, my parents, all my
siblings can all play the piano and I can't play
the piano. And I asked my mom, why didn't you
force me to take lessons? And she's like, oh, you
didn't want to. You never wanted to. And I'm like, well,
I go, so you just listen. She's like, I wasn't
gonna fight with you to play the piano.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
My mom. I didn't really want to play, but my
mom was a concert pianist, so she was like, you
don't get allowance until you play the genius. And so
now I know how to play, and you're thankful for it.
I am.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I am actually saying how cool is to have a
piano in your place? Great?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I actually I don't feel comfortable unless there's an acoustic
piano in the place that I live. Is that weird?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No? But I actually just wanted the piano just because
I like the way it looks.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, it is kind of cool looking, right right, it's sophisticated.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like I just want something like cool stand up, Yeah,
like old school, Yes, probably black, I think. Talk to
me just about you were an off Broadway show Altar Boys. Yeah,
so five hundred app how long did you do that? Ideas?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So the show ran for five years off Broadway and
I did the last year and a half of it
and I did five hundred and fifty five performances. And
it's a musical about a boy a Catholic boy band
saving the souls of New York through their singing, singing
and hip hop dance. It's basically a recreation of a
boy band concert on stage, but with like a lot
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of like different comedy about the different idiosyncracies of being
in a boy band and like whatnot if that makes sense.
So yeah, so I did that for a year and
a half off Broadway closed it.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
First of all, I'm just curious, what's your do you have?
Are you familiar with the Catholic Church, what's your stance
on the Catholic Church. I have a stance on altar boys.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I have no stance on the on alter boys. Really, like,
I don't even really know about Catholicism. Besides, like what
what the lyrics that I had to sing? I mean,
I grew up like more Pentecostal.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Sure you know well these two. But I still despise
everything the Cowtholic church like I would. There's like a
Catholic church like near a home, and I make my
kids walk fast past it. Really why, Well, because you
know who's never been sexually assaulted in a Catholic church?
Is a kid who's never been inside a Catholic church.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So that that's I'm playing those odds only right. I
don't care if it's one in a billion, you're not going.
I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, people who are not a fan of the ch
who love the Catholic like the Catholic religion, actually loved
to show because we did poke fun at it a lot.
I mean a lot of people also thought that we
were ministering to them, which was was bizarre.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Be straight with me for one moment. The musical rent
true or false? The worst musical on Broadway.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
False, that was my jam? Are you kidding me? I
love it. I used to pop in that CD and
I thought like, oh, yeah, I know, I'm listening to
rock music. Now this is my jam.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I married a woman who just listens to the Broadway
channel on satellite radio all the time, and I just, oh,
it's just it's not so bad. Well, I mean some
of it. I get you get into it. You start
picking favorites real quick. On the count of three, we
both tell say how many times we've shared our pants
as an adult? Okay, one, two, three, thirty?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Too many? I'm thirty. Probably shipped my pants a lot?
Me too? Really? Oh my god, I really think I
have a problem. I should talk to a doctor about it.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What do you do when you're performing? Uh? Like, like,
has it ever having Broadway? Like you're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, one time I took a pee break on in
the middle of a scene in the show once because
I had to.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm not talking about pee about diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh I never have to ship on stage.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
For some reason, I thought you said you ship your pants.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, I just daily life though.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, But but your stomach doesn't get upset or nervous
before a performance, ever, and you have to like empty
everything out.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not that way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh good for you. You know you're not living my
life at all. I've been on I've been on a toilet,
just exploding, and I hear them introducing me, and I'm like, well,
I'm not coming.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's devastating. So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Just let them deal with whatever they got to deal
with out there.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Show must go on.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No it doesn't. The show doesn't go on.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Show doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Show. The show waits until I'm finished, right, and then
and then I get out there, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it was in the back. It's cocaine.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And they all laugh, Oh the cokeshits. No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I don't do cocaine. I just say something stupid to
move on. All right, But it's okay, but you've crapped yourself.
That's good. Everyone talks about Broadway. It's just a tough
place to make a living, especially the most expensive city, uh,
certainly in our country is off Broadway. Even worse, what
are we looking at? What kind of income can you
make a on a hit show off Broadway?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Off Broadway? I was pulling in like one thousand dollars
a week, which is which is nothing for New York.
Like we were we felt like rock stars, but we
were broke as a joke. I mean, we were going
on TV shows, but we were spending all of our
money for our studio apartments in Hill's kitchen and barely
squeaking by. But it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
How'd you get into How'd you make the jump? Say? Oh,
I have an idea this boy band Project.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I did Alter Boys for a long time, and it
was I was kind of getting sick of like the
up and down roller coaster of like, okay, now what
do I do? Scramble audition and then you get something,
but then that gig is still like six months away,
so you got to figure out what to do in
that time. So I was like, I have all of
these friends who look like they could be in a
boy band. Let me keep this going. And I was
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getting a lot of like gigwork because I had a
certain notoriety from being in that show for so long.
And so I created my own entity, which is the
Boyband Project, which is essentially a contemporary boyband cover group.
So we cover in Sync and Backstreet Boy but with
like expert Broadway vocals. Choreography and whatnot. It started as
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like a party act and then slowly turned into like
performing arts centers and cruise ships and now we're here
in LA.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Only in sync and backstreet boys? Or do you do
all the boy bands?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
We do all like the contemporary ones. So it's like
circa two thousand and ninety two nineties, right, So you
do LFO.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We do LFO just just the one song.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's the only song that's worth singing. Yeah, Otown?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
What song? Otown? All or Nothing?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All or Nothing, Liquid Dreams.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I actually like All or Nothing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's the problem with you know, Like I can listen.
I appreciate Tool, I like that rock and roll, but
it's like I still I like All or Nothing by
O Town.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, well you're well rounded then.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't know if that's the right word, but sure.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
No. It's funny because in high school, like I mean
I was, I was low key obsessed with these boy bands.
But so we're like all of my straight friends in choir,
and we would like we would play all or Nothing
and just sing like it was like our our everything,
like this was our freaking song. We'd look into each
other's eyes and just sing all or nothing to this day, like,
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it's still my favorite song. I created the show, so
I get to sing what I want to sing, and
that's the song that I always pick for myself.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I freaking love it.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I also like the statement my straight friends in choir, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Because they were all straight. I mean, it's anya, I think.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So I don't know this. This isn't a contemporary boy band.
But do you consider what's you McCall it? What's that
group that everybody thinks is the greatest band of all time?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
The Beatles?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
The Beatles? Yeah, you consider the Beatles of boy band?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah for sure, Okay, but not like there's a lot
of people that cover those, you know, And so I
try to stick to the two decades. No, let's part
of the group just because nobody else is doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
How many people are in your group?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So it's four on stage at a time, But I've
got a roster of like probably about twenty guys in
New York City that know the show. And so the
business model that I created, well is that when they're
not in a Broadway show, like remember how I told you,
there's usually had six months in between your contracts. Sometimes
you book the greatest gig ever, but you're still broke
as a joke until you get there. And so they
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they like, hey, i've got six months off, can you
put me in a boy band? And so I get
them gigging on cruise ships. I send them to la.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What's your thought on cruise ships?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
They're horrid awful. It's tough, right, but the money is
so good, and they treat if you're a headliner. You're like,
you've got it made. You're a prince. You get your
own cabin with a balcony. It's free meals. You we
do a seven day contract and we do work one
day and I get paid for the whole week.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And you're so coming off of of struggling to make
ends meet in New York City. It's a breath of
fresh air.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Oh people. And the boys love it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And by the boys, you mean you're the group. Yeah,
isn't it weird calling the boys though? What's the age?
What's the age range of your boys?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I mean anywhere from forty five to down to another direction,
like twenty three.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
There's no actual boys in the boys band, That's all
I'm getting at, right.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's more of lake. You're all men, yeah, I guess,
or men that never grew up?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah? Are you all sexy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Is there any dogs in the bunch? You know, like
like sometimes I'll like look at I'll stare at like, uh,
you know, I'm in Vegas and you see an ad
for Thunder from down Under or Magic Mike yea, and
you look at them together and like all these are
beautiful men. But then when you start looking at them individually,
like all right, this guy.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is distorting one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, this guy get white evolved?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Who's he related to? Right?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Anyway? So are most of you guys all very attractive?
Was the question?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, I will say yes.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Any straight guys in the group, yes, multiple.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, Oh that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah. I mean they don't dance as well?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
What's the rule you have to dance? You know? So
so generally the guys or the boys that have this
certain skill set to be in the boy band project
end up being gay. We've got I've got a lot
of straight guys who are freaking awesome with it and
they're just down with what.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Are they appropriating gay culture?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
No? Because no, because the bands were they were gay,
they weren't. I mean some you know, sure, Metro maybe
you know, you know, I think I think there is
something inherently gay about being in a boy band, maybe
just because of the ability to express your emotion really freely,
you know that. Agree, you know there's no stoicism with
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being in a boy band, Then like, why why watch
them if they're not going to like bear their soul
to you in a song?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Speaking of bearing your soul? How have you have you?
Have you dove into this new Britney Spears book yet? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No? No, but I want to.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Write you no. But every time I read like justin
Timberlake paid for an abortion, I just get so excited.
I'm like, what why do I love that head?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It just makes me so nervous.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Because you know he's at home right now with his
wife going fucking shot. This crazy bitch is in sync
doing a comeback tour. Good for business or bad for business?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Good for business? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, has Joey Fatone asked to join?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Not yet? No?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What's he doing?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
What? What horrible pizza sauce is he selling?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's a French onion dip.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He's got a French onion dip. Oh congratulations? Do you
ever do any songs? From the ninety eight degree Christmas album.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yes this gift, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
My wife went and saw that show, I think last
year the year before. She was so excited. And then
afterwards she was going to meet one of them, but
she didn't meet the one she had, the one that
nobody likes, thee Yeah, I know, you only want to
meet Lee. Yeah, right, And here the brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's two brothers, and then the hot one with the muscles.
He was my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I don't know. But then there's like the other guy
that just looks like he should be.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Do you do you ever sing any girl songs? Or no?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All right about k pop? Do you ever do any
k pop songs?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Not yet?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I worry. I'm before you put your toe into that arena.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Were there any black boy bands?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Boys to men?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
You consider them a boy band?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah? I don't know why I don't because they don't dance.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
They dance. They dance their fucking asses off. Okay, let
me tell you that that. I say this nicely. The
fat one, he's not really that fat. He's just slightly
bigger than the other ones. He's a dancing machine. I
know this because they opened Uh, they don't. They didn't
open for me, but they were on the show in
front of mine in Vegas for many years. But they
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can move. Boy bands always have a specific character for
each person, the heart throb, the goofy one. Which one
are you?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm the boy nextor I didn't know that was one.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The boy next door? All right? What other what are there?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So in our group we have the sensitive one, we
have the bad boy, we have the boy next door,
and we have the sporty one.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So the boy next door is really kind of the
heart throb. That's what I would kind of Yeah, did
you give yourself that? Do you say I'm taking this one?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I kind of floated around for a little bit, like
I wanted it to be an organic choice.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Really, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I started as the sensitive one, but then there was
a guy in the group that was just like, so
fricking sensitive.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And so the gay community has criticized your productions for
not being gay enough. When you originally came out that
you thought this was who I'm targeting to and that
was the feedback.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Or yeah, I mean it started out because because I
was I just knew so many people in gay entertainment,
you know, I knew. I like, I was like, Okay,
I created a show, let me pitch it to the
venues that I know the people at. So I went
to the gay places and you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Know, I mean, how many drag shows can you have
before you need to throw in something different?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, I know that. I didn't know if that was
wrong to say.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, no, absolutely, because so we do a show called
Boyband Brunch in New York, which I call the alternative
to drag Brunch. But going back to what you said
about the gay world, it was like it was because
we weren't really saying, like, our songs weren't about being gay.
You know, none of the boy band songs are about
being gay. Your show's not about about being gay. So
why are you doing this in gay places all the time?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And then we slowly discovered that we would perform in
gay places like we we headlined at Gay Ski Week
and Aspen and.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I've never been I've been a gay ski Week and
tell you Ride, which was wonderful. Yeah, but I've never
been a Gay Ski Week and ask it was fabulous
that happened on all different resorts.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Huh oh. Yeah, I had the best outfit for Gay
Ski Week. It was freaking amazing. Was it was just
like we we had like, well, one of the guys
had like a rainbow fur jacket, and then I had
just this like hot pink jumper. Is that what you
call it? Like a bib ski bib jumper?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Thanks? Called ski bib? Is it? Yeah? I'm pretty sure
it is. Oh okay, but I mean you can call.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It jump, but it's sure okay ski bib. Yeah. It
was fabulous.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So did you did you ski there an Aspen?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Because we didn't even ski, We just wore outfit we
had the opportunity to and we were like, oh, we're tired,
but yeah, so we were. We sold out the show
and we got on stage and it was filled with
middle aged women. We're like, how did I don't even
think that these people live in Aspen? Like how did
they find out about the show? And so that was
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like a moment where I was like, we're marketing this
to the wrong audience. And then we kind of switched
and then it really started to take off from then.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Is it fun just sing to these women? No, it's
the us.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's freaking amazing, you know. They they treat us like
we are in sync. You know, we go in these
cruise ships and they're like, for our autographs, we'll do.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Any of this. Straight boys ever try to hit on
their fans, And is that frowned upon?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Because I bet I bet they they think they're there
in a safe zone. Next thing they know is like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean, that's a great idea, first rate guy. If
they're really licking. I mean, I don't know. I've never
clocked it, though.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Have you ever tried to get a show in Vegas?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
In Vegas? No? Not yet?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, all right, let's stop right now because I got
connections and I want fifty percent, no five five percent,
you got it of the profit? Yeah, I mean it
seems insane. This seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I mean, we just made it to La I know.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But doing the I'm saying Vegas is like your your
cruise ships. They've got all the money in the world
be in Vegas. I know, but it's not. I mean, listen,
even if it's small stints, you know, maybe it's like
you get a residency at a place where it's just
I don't know, pick a cool day. Yeah, the first
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Thursday of every month, and you know, everybody different. Four
fly in, nice hotel, nice food, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Okay, that'd be great. Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
This is a no brainer. It's easy. I just don't
know what casino is right for the boy band project.
I have to think about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Planet Hollywood, what all right?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're no, you're fired. When you're singing to liquored up
fifty year old women on stage, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think, God, bless you, thank you for being here
tonight and spreading your love with us and allowing us
to sing to you. Now, they're the reason that we
do it. You know I wouldn't We love them. They're great,
and you know they love that. I mean, because we
are mostly gay, like, it's very safe space for them.
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So it becomes a very like interactive show. Sometimes I
mean you touch sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
They do, they touch. Do they get inappropriate? Oh yeah yeah.
They don't ever get called out for that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's interesting, no, because you know, as long as they're
tip tipping us, sometimes it ends up being like magic
Mike meets in sinking backshit Boys.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay, so there is grinding, half ening.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
There's a lot of grinding.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, yeah, okay, you do you do?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You do?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You have a specific song where you bring someone on
stage and do all this stuff to do you tie
them into a chair?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
We don't tie them.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I feel like that's tricky.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
One of the producers, Pete, his his wife. She got
brought up on stage on magic mic and they just
all of them just or on top of her, rub
and her doing it. Then they brought her up into
the air like crazy high. She was suspended, but they
like the whole time they were like grinding and they're like, okay,
you're gonna go up in the air, really are and
(27:01):
you know if you have a do you have any
heart conditions?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Right then and there. She's signed to release.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Some version of that. But he got jealous when they
she got home. Didn't like it. I didn't like that
she did it. I don't know why I got jealous,
But that's just him. Are you married?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
How long have you been married?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Married for three years but together for fifteen?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
How many of those years fifteen? Faithfully?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
In gay world?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Is that different? Does that change when you get married?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, no, Well that is insane to me. Really, yes, why,
I mean, I I just it's like, that's not marriage
to me, like marriage, you have to have the part
where you don't get to ever do that.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It's a Mi Israel part. Yes, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, like I get mad at my friend who is bisexual.
He always like, oh, if I'm in a relationship with
a man, He's like, I can still occasionally be with
a woman. I'm like, no, that's not. You don't get
an out. That's fucking bullshit. You have to you have
to The whole point is one if if I knew
that was on the table, like.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh emotionally one okay, Well why why put your relationship
in a box?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I mean you're preaching to the choir. I need you
to talk to the other. Do you think that's very
common when you said, like in the gay.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
World that that I know very little gay couples that
are like one hundred percent monogamous in a long term relationship.
And I can't even think of one David Sedaris no way. Really,
that's just what I just wanted to.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
That I thought would probably be monogamous. He seems like
reclusive sorts. Maybe, Well, here's what I've learned in my
life is that there is every version of every type
of relationship. So I'm sure there's tons and tons of
monogamous gay Oh I'm are looking at you right now
(28:59):
and going asshole, and you get to go have your
cake and eat it too.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Maybe they should try it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I don't know, no, because then you can't try it.
It has to be something that has to.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Be established in one I don't think so you.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Can't be monogamous for fifteen years and then be like, hey, honey,
I got an idea. How about I start fucking banging
somebody else?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
If it's either out of the highway, right.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't marry somebody that wouldn't be like, yeah,
I'll take the highway.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
True. True, But if you're going to be happier if
you go down this road together, or you make a
decision to be happy apart.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Listen, I know it can't happen for me. But if
you told me, hey, you're going to have the career
that you want to have and blah blah blah, and
you're gonna be able to take care of your family
and all of this stuff, but you have to be
faithful to one person. Would you take the deal, and
(29:56):
I say, yeah, take the deal.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So that's the way I look at because I think
if I'm out in the world right now, I'm going
to put myself in a bad situation eventually totally.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But I mean, in my experience, I found that because
it's open.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You don't put yourself in a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
No, I don't. I don't act on it. Oh, you know,
because there's no real there's no barbed wire fence around
my relationship. I just stay put.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I don't like that you referred to my relationship as.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
A barbed wire fence, just a metaphor.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You think your ex girlfriend out there cheats on her husband.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
No, I don't think she does.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Everybody that comes on the show, I give them a gift,
but I don't buy gifts. I just take stuff from
my house that I'm like, why do I have this?
And I get rid of it. Okay, okay, what's I sue?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Are you nine and a half? Oh? I got the
shut up?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And they light up when the wheels roll. But they're
too big?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh no, what size are they?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know. You give me, but you can regift
them to somebody and then you'll be fine. I think
they say twelve.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
They're twelve. It's worth three pairs of socks.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Listen, whatever. I just thought that you might like them
because they're kind of cool and they light up. Thank you,
you're welcome. This is very sweet. I actually wrote them
one time and I fell very hard.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Really, yeah, that's really sad.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, what are you gonna do, Lou Pearlman. You're doing
a show about him? What's that about.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, so we're doing a musical. He's a piece of shit, right,
piece of shit? Yeah? Yeah, okay, and the musical definitely
makes that clear.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, So it's about the creation of Otown, but it's
also the parallels between Lou Pearlman and Colonel Parker, who
was the manager for Elvis, and they both stole the money.
And then there was one guy and the show is
called the Manager, and so he was the associate manager
of with Colonel Parker and Lou Pearlman who worked on Otown.
(31:54):
And I got a call from a producer who wanted
a boy band, and they wanted an actual boy band
to come in and play O Town, And so we
both brought the crew in this month to do it.
We're shopping it right now.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I have an idea for you if you want to.
It's probably not a good idea, but get old people.
They can sing like a choir, and I want them
to look like they would be like, you know, traditional
God believe in whatever, folks, but anyway, and I just
want them to do cover songs of Two Live Cruise
Songs Crew. They were a nasty, very a rap group
(32:33):
from South Florida in the late eighties that they're the
ones that created the parental advisory sticker for albums. I
love it, but I just want to hear those songs
that Couci. They had songs like that. Yeah, you would
know some of their songs, the Cucci song. Well, well
it's not you understand that. I'm trying to think of
(32:57):
some other popular Two Live Cruise doesn't matter you watch.
Somebody else is going to take this idea. I just
wanted to exist. I don't want any credit. Fuck Mary
kill you ready?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh God?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
In Sync? Backstreet Boys ninety eight degrees.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh fuck ninety degrees for sure? God, that is really hard.
That's like Sophie's choice.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well, here we are.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'd marry in Sync because they have more money, Right's right?
Kill the Backstreet Boys, But I would I would be devastated.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
About it, and I have now the Backstreet Boys is
the right choice to kill. What's your favorite Backstreet Boy song?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I want it that way?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
What was the music video to that?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's where they're on the plane, you know, they getting
off the plane and they're all wearing all white and
the fans are like, you know, going crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I remember that TRL.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Did you love it?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Loved it? Never missed an episode.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
As as an adult now and living in New York,
when you go buy that old that window where it was,
do you ever look up there and think about the
days that people would just be all out in the street.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I used to. I haven't in a while now that
you mention it. It's been gone a very long time.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I know, I know. It was such a such a
part of culture back then. Carson Daily, did you like
him or hate him?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I thought he was annoying. He was really annoying, yeah
you know, but I mean he was such an icon
for the moment, right for music.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I like that guy that they had when they had
that contest to like become a VJ. And he talked
with like a crazy voice, and he looked like like
a homeless person, and he had hair that was all
out here.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I do not remember that, Jesse. I do not remember that.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I did.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I wore the contest, and then the reason he won
is because American kids were fucking hysterical and they picked
the guy that was clearly fucking methed out.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh Jesus, you remember Jesse Oh yeah, you guys remember
him absolutely, Jesse Camp.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, man, yeah, it comes to New York to hang
with us, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I wonder what he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm sure it's fucking dead podcast. It's is dead. There's
one of the other You ever perform original songs for
your group and do people get furious either love it?
No they don't.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah they do because we'll like we do actually, but
they're within the style of millennium boy band.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
You ever listen to do a cover of in Together?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
What was that? Map?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Together Together? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, we have the calculus.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I know my calculus. Yeah. Hardest part of breaking up
is getting back your stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I just remember Chris Farley's brother in that and that
always made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh that's right, I forgot that was Chris Farley's brother.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You recently launched the Girl Band Project. Who's harder to
manage the boys or the girls?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Girls? It's so much harder than I thought. Well, probably
because I spent ten years working with boys and and
I was like, okay, I'll just you know, dude, girls
and I'll just jump in there and it'll be the same.
And it was just so different, like I can't I
don't know if it's because it was a guy like
talking to women and telling them exactly what to do
(36:13):
and where to be and what to wear and how
to do it. Our first show almost had a mutiny
and I thought they were going to show up and
it ended up being fabulous, but I had to take
them out to lunch and be like, what am I
doing wrong?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Here?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You guys are great? Like why is this working?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Did you fix the problem?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Not yet? Okay, well I've been a little scared to
do it since then. Little PTSD, gotcha, where do you
like to vacation? I just went to Marrakesh for my
fortieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Really, I look at you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know, I'm old. I told you I know, botas.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, yeah, you look good, You're you're just forty. I
just turned forty. Yeah, good job. Thank you job son
of them, bitch. I wanted you to be thirty four.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I want to be thirty four.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
All right, Where else have you been?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Buenos Aida?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Is?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I went for my bachelor party?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Did you cheat on your uh, your partner at your batch?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I didn't do that. That's a little on the nose.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I've got standards.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, is it not called cheating?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No, you haven't called cheating because there's no rules, right, Okay,
so it's just who get it done?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Who cheats more in your relationship?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Me?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Is he older or younger?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
He's he's older, he's seven years older.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
My age, but still younger. I bet you had one
hell of a reception at your wedding. Yeah. Did you
sing at your wedding?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
No? Hell no?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Oh? Why is that a hell no?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Because it's work?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I still.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Did you do a podcast at your wedding?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
No? No, no, I did to shit. There you go,
but I was occasionally funny. How many people were at
your wedding?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Well, we did destation, but I was one hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Fuck off? Yeah, you made a hundred people go someplace?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I did a destination. I got sixteen.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Where is your destination really? Oh see, we just did
province down.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, well that's different.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You don't need a passport.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I had to get a passport for my father in law.
This guy found out he had never left the country.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh, devastating vacations in America.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That might be the funniest thing I've ever heard. How
often are you performing with the group?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You know? Sometimes I get so sick of it. I mean,
I've been doing it for ten years now and so
that's a lot of boy banding all the time. And
I love boy bands, So every once in a while
it's just time to step back and creative control it,
you know, and make sure that everything is is great
and make sure that the show is intact, and take
a well needed break from it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I love it, though, Well what what about your age?
Will you ever say? WHOA wait a second, I'm getting
up there. It's not yeah, I have to pass the
baton down.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I'm sure that will happen eventually. But I also think, like,
because the nature of the show is is comedy, Like
we're not really taking it serious. It's about being funny
and fun and kind of like knocking fun at what
the boy band genre is.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Right, I mean, it's what the boy bands should have
been to begin.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
With, right, But I think as we get into the
middle age, I think it gets funnier.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You don't, No, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Maybe that's just what I'm telling myself so I can
continue to have a performances.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Lawyers, you can get out there and still do it
that listen. I wish you all the success. I hope
the boy band project makes you tons of money for
fifty years and you can just sit back and enjoy
the fruits of your labor. Thank you, Thank you for
being on here.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I appreciate it. Thank you very much. This is fun.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Thank you, Pasha. Well, Carl, that does it, Travis, thank
you for being on the show. And be extra careful
on those roles. Skates, Carl, you believe it. He's roller
skating in his own house. It's dangerous. Boys wear, Pink.
I want to thank everybody for scamming the system and
(40:12):
buying all the totes. We are now sold out of totes,
so buy hoodies now, just buy hoodies please? All right,
what else is going on? We got some tour dates
coming up. Check us out as we travel around the country, right, Carl,
Eddie'll be with us. Oh, it'd be good fun. And
(40:32):
I got a big announcement. You ready for this? Should
we get one of Eddie's drum rolls? Eddie want to
do a drum roll? You know? No, you'll scratch that.
Instead of a drum roll, why don't you give me
some cool background music while I make this big announcement
about the goat. It comes out May ninth. That's all
I needed, Eddie. Thanks. May ninth, three episodes will be
(40:56):
dropped on Amazon Prime. Yeah. Then after that Bezos will
release them however he sees fit. Don't question the algorithm,
all hailed Jeff. All right, Carl's asleep. Let's hear one
more bedtime story from my son.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
See you next week, went Caupine time in one one
What saw so Solway City? Where the wind the people
and then they are Baba and Nini. The one will
bright ray and when they're bright blue, and they would
(41:41):
right into white bread and white browed talls along, But
the brewdy didn't no put them in, and they yelled,
I didn't no human A scientist hold on
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