January 14, 2025 • 56 mins
Mi me ma mo moooo. Tune in for cringey choirs, indignant interpreters, and optimistic audition processes. The person most confused by the film this week was: our high school selves.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, I'm Sienna
Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten, and welcome to Toss Popcorn,
the podcast where two idiots watched every film on the
AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of All Time, the
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very slightly less racist tenth Anniversary edition, and are now
watching films that we choose that are now directed by women.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This podcast is a safe fishing barge for people who
don't know anything about movies. Today we are watching Coda.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're gonna Sell our own.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Flesh, a film with lots of Oscar buzz around it.
A couple of years ago, it was the thing warning
there will be spoilers about this sweet film. All al right, okay, okay,
oh Sienna, let's just blast through these predictions because I
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gotta get to hay girl.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
God, just here. Had you seen this before? No? I hadn't.
Okay me neither, ok okay yours. First, we are so problematic.
We don't see any of the groundbreaking films I know
when they actually come out. We try to do mine first.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Then we'll try and we'll see and then we're screwed.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh yeah, fuck up? Okay, okay, great, Ready we are
the problem. Yes, Hi, Sienna's Leanna. I'm about to watch Coda.
I've heard great things. I you know, I'm just not
really in the mood to watch movie right now.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But when am I ever?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What else is new? I predict? I you know, apparently
it's beautiful, So okay, it'll be that. Love you bye woo.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, Leanna my prediction.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm about to watch duh. My mom really likes this
movie and I've been waiting to watch it for forever,
but I've never seen it. I know it's about the
child of a deaf parent of a child of deaf adult?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Is that actually what code means? Something like that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But I predict it will make me cry or at
least cheer up. I guess I never say that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh yep, okay, he love be goodbye?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Oh I think that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I knew it was a music symbol, and I was like,
why is this the title of the fils A music
an idiot? Oh? We are idiots? Okay, between the two
of us, we oh okay, I almost understood not.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
To be rude, but that makes so much sense. Somebody
found out about both those terms, and they're like, I
gottam this movie. And also they're gonna be fishermen maybe
because of well I've already seen your first note.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But anyway, my perfect first note. Thank you, Leonna hay Girl.
Hey girl, Well I guess i'll start.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You got chastised at the post office.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh my gosh, I got chastised twice at the post
office this I had to ship things internationally twice this week.
One my brother's Christmas present to him because it finally
arrived that those keeping tabs on the journey from Latvia
to now California, although they shipped it through Los Angeles,
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so it's currently in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
The Latvia gift.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, it might not get to him because it's in
Los Angeles. And I went and I brought my little
envelope and the items, and I went to the counter
and I said, Hi, I need to ship this to
California please, because I don't understand how the mail works,
so I didn't know what I was supposed to put
into what where. No, they were like, oh my god,
you need to get away from the counter and write
the address on this envelope and put everything in there
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and come back once all of that is done.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, that's why I'm asking.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, all right, I also feel like maybe I could
just write it down here and a way to really
send me away, just so that you can sell some
stamps to the next person. And it's not gonna take
me that long, okay. And then today I had to
ship some items for work and they had batteries in them,
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and I almost nearly got arrested. I mean, the reaction
was such. I tried to use the self Kiosk, the
self checkout area and was quickly chastised because apparently that's
only for items being shipped within the UK. And I
was like, and where was the sign for that? Please?
And then I tried to put all of them in
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one envelope and they said, oh my god, you can't
do that because they might all rub together and explode
in the post together. Well, now, why.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Are we the other had explode?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They would repine. Sorry about that phrase there, I'm hearing
it back now.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well they might there horny batteries, That's what they said
to me.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And I said okay, And then I'd written the return
address on the envelope, and they were like, you can't
write two addresses on one envelope because the scanner scans
the first address it sees. And I at that point
literally said out loud, well this is going terribly. That's
what they want. And he said, yeah, it's not going great,
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and I said, well what am I?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Okay? They have the mail? How could they ever have
British comedy of things? There went, well, I feel like
people need to be like, oh bother, oh bother, and
I was very O bother. I was oh bother.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But everything got mailed and I think it's all good. Well,
the King's face is on a lot of pieces of
mail now that I've sent this week, gosh, because I
had to send today's stuff in multiple envelopes to avoid
the battery is rubbing together and exploding.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Enough with the King, Enough with the King.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
America seventeen seventy six. Enough with the King. We're over him.
And that's been a big thing in my week. Dying Siena,
Hey girl, you are not in Los Angeles County currently.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I left Los Angeles because of the fires, the many fires,
and I'm here in Orange County at my partner's parents place.
Thank you so much for housing us. All of a sudden,
my house is safe. It is not burned up. There's
lots of highway around. So as long as nothing goes
God's danly wrong, it should be fine. But the problem
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with today's day and age and climate change is that
things are happening differently than they ever have before. So
you just can't count on anything. But yeah, flames. My
house going up in flames, not a bit. The biggest
thing that we're worried about, all good, Okay, okay, I
think that's been really bad is air quality. That's why
everybody had to because there's literally so much smoke. There
was so much ash in the air. And it's not
(07:05):
just forest fires. They keep talking about the forest fires,
which is true, but it's not just forest fire smoke.
It's property fires. So there's so much toxic stuff in
the air. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm on the east side
by the eaten fire. So here's what happened the other night. Also,
if you're wondering, oh the stuff is happening in Los Angeles,
(07:25):
I wonder if it's affecting the people. I know it
almost certainly is, because it's happening on either side of
Los Angeles. Almost everybody I know has evacuated for the
last few days because the air quality is like horrible,
horrible unless you can stay inside and you have a
really good air, pure fire. If you have somewhere else
to go, it's just safer to be gone. So Tuesday night,
some actually Tuesday in the morning, my partner Kelsey, texted
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me a picture of this fire because he works really
far on the west side, so he could see the
Palisades from where he was, and he sent me this
picture and I actually hearted it because I thought he
was sending me a picture of the view, but in
fact there was smoke that I didn't notice in the picture.
And he said, you love the fire and I said, oh,
I was wrong. Oh, And that was the first glimpse
(08:12):
we saw of the fire. Is He's like, at this
he was actually another museum for some work thing, and
he was they could see it had a perfect view
of just smoke coming up from the palisades, and he's like,
it looks like there's a really bad fire there. So
it keeps going on throughout the day and we get
news updates that the Palisades are burning. We're like, that's
really bad, and then it gets really, really really windy.
(08:32):
The Santa Ana winds are hitting or some kind of winds.
Tuesday night, it's so so so windy. It was so
windy I was afraid and it was going to fall
in my car. So I went outside to go move
my car. So much stuff got in my eyes and
the wind was so glowing so hard that I saw
that I wasn't under a tree, and I just gave up.
So I turned around. Kelsey is really near to that
fire on the west or he looks near to me
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like the only thing between him and the fires is
a bunch of trees, and he lives on one, in
like a secluded area where there's just one street. So
I text him and I'm like, please, please please come over,
Please come over before a tree falls and you can't
get out and something horrible happens. Please go now because
it's so windy. And he took his damn sweet time
stuff to get over, and I was so stressed. And
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he finally he drives over, but all the power's going out.
My power never went out, but the power went out
all across the city. He finally drives over. By the
time it gets to me, a fire on my side
of town has sprung up. Oh my god, so now
that Eaton fire is going on. We thought we were
gonna have sort of like a power out night, or
if the power was on, we just all just like
hunker down and watch a movie together. So we put
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on the movie Babe.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
One of my roommates is like, I don't know, I
just really want to watch Babe right now, So Babe.
And then we put the news on next to Babe
because we've been watching it all night to just make
sure that the fire isn't coming to my side of town.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, and it looked like it was okay.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
By the time we're going to bed, it was going
east instead of towards us. We go fantastic.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
We go to bed.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The morning, we all wake up at like seven forty
five coughing itching so much ashes in the air that
has gotten into our house despite the shut windows.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We're all like, we gotta get out of here. So
the first thing in the morning, all my friends from
the area come over. There were like fifteen people in
the house and we all just figured out where we
were leaving too, because we had to evacuate. Going outside,
you could not spend more than a minute out there
because there's so much ash and soot and my car
was covered in ash and we're like miles from everything,
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but you can tell it's toxic. It's like plastic, it's paint,
it's not just yeah, but it was just super super
super windy, and embers were flying across the city and
everything caught on fire. Wow, and the fire is just
getting fed. And the other thing that I'm learning so
much about is, you know, people are like, oh, they're
not containing it. They're not containing it. Fire is fire.
(10:50):
It's just gonna burn. There's nothing you can do. What
are you gonna do? Wet the sides and then hope
it stopped, Like you have to wait until it kind
of just simmers.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Now, So dumb, I did think that's what you did.
There's too much fire that you wetted the side.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
There's not enough people. There's too much fire once it's
starting to settle down, and there aren't winds just straight
up feeding it. I think there's more they can do,
but mm hmmm, it's just it feeds itself. We we are,
but we are but men on this earth. We have
The climate change is so problematic and it's so important
for us to work to stop it because we ca
this is what happens nature that much.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, what is that? Colossal? Wow? Yeah? So gez Yeah,
so I.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Guess it won't make my improv show tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Hm anywow geez. Okay, Well, I'm so glad you're safe.
Well well Leanna speaking of coastal towns. Yeah, film, let's
get into it. Gosh, this feels like such a hairpin
turned into a podcast. Leona.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Your first note, which I have read because I actually.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh no, we need a synopsis please of the film.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh my gosh, crap.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I did my worries. Honestly, no worries. If not, you've
been dealing with a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's where I drop a line that it can record.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I'm not doing this synonymsense, okay, Coda.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Ruby is the only hearing member of a death fishing family.
The two things happening in this movie are that the
fishermen of the area in Maine are trying to get
better pa Massachusetts. Oh crap, wait, yeah, hmm, I ask
you a number of questions.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
College in Boston, and it's thirty minutes away.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I saw fishermen and I just assumed I like, bring
up Maine through this a number of times and ask
you about your experience. Did two things happening in this
movie That the fishermen of Massachusetts are trying to get
better pay and they eventually start their own company because
they just keep getting price couched and it's really frustrating
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to watch. And also Ruby loves to sing. She's been
a translator for her close knit family her whole life,
and she is now trying to find her own way
as a senior in high school about to graduate. By
the end of the film, she's embraced her love of singing,
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and she gets into Berkeley School of Music after singing
a beautiful but inappropriately long audition song the end.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Don't get me started on that audition. I was like,
there's no way throughout it, I kept saying, in what world?
In what world?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
This movie was sweet and uh, but I'm kind of
like rude about it a number of times.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh my god, thank god, girl, I oh, thank god.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm sorry. I don't mean this as like all the
all the deaf parts. Ate loved it, loved loved uh.
I just felt like there were a lot of favors
being traded in this film. Like the people. Some of
the people cast. I was like, now, how did you
end up here?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Just a few of them interesting?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And then all the Oscar Noms. I'm like, all the
Oscar Nams, the parents incredible, the main girl dad, the
job she was in it. This main actress clearly did
not British. First of all British. She clearly There were
a number of tis where I was like, sorry, is
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she from a deaf family or background. She's not. She
just learned it from the movie which comes through.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I was surprised. I was surprised they did that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
My thing, I found the plot so annoying. I had
no incredibly annoying. And what I learned about myself is
I do not care for a film whose plot arches
toward the big audition. No singing, I'm not interested in
that a singing being movie.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
In a singing movie, somebody has to try to sing
and then they have to sing and we have to
watch them sing. No, that's like, it's definitely a risky film.
That's why I was, yeah that it just felt like
a very, very very Hollywood movie. Like I truly feel
like somebody said coda, but what about coda? And also
like your first note, what about cod?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And that was just me typing in the title of
the film to search it and I put in the
D and I said cod And then it turned out
to be so very about fish. Yeah, it really it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It feels like they said, let's make an oscar film. Okay,
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The code are the things we need in modern day.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I have some amazing deaf actors who I've wanted to
work with and have wanted to tell their story. I'm
gonna make some. There are some parts about the screenplay
that I enjoyed, like the speeches and stuff. I enjoyed them. Yeah,
so it's like, let's get them there. Then what else
can we do? What else can we do? Their daughter
loves to sing? Yeah, and not only will she love
to sing. Let's make it a classic audition movie.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
People love it. People eat that up.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And then I don't, And then listen, I got a
cousin with a fisherman boat in Massachusetts. You can shoot
there for real cheap. Not to completely hate. There are
many things I enjoyed, but I was like, this is coda.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know, I know, same, Okay, great, are you eating fish?
That seems like it might have been stomped on by
an angsty teen. That's fishing. We'll be back in a
few minutes.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
There's a lot that I enjoyed. And also I think,
really truly we have the main graph about this movie,
which is it It was a singing film, and.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I just I don't care for auditions and sings Happy Birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
When that was the audition song, I was like, that
is a famously hard song to sing. That song doesn't
fit in anyone's range because it was written in the
eighteenth century for people whose bodies were smaller.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Your first note, your first note is a fisherman with
a voice of gold, just like Jesus. Was he a fisherman?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, a construction worker.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He was what was her piper?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He wasn't a fisherman. Jesus was a designer. He wasn't
a fisherman.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
What's his thing with fish? He just had a lot
of them. He gaged you fish.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Fishermen were super in in the Bible, so he's represented
by the fish.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It was like the job, like product manager. Yeah exactly.
Now people do startups now.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Back then they were fishermen, so like a lot of
his friends were fishermen, so you know I got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Okay, Oh, this is really interesting, Ciana. You wrote every
high schooler in this is thirty and we love that,
and I thought they all were teens.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Really, Oh they looked so old to me. Mainly, Okay,
I'm sorry, this is just me being a hater. My
One of my main things about this movie were I
couldn't believe her friend. Her friend the slut, the slut who,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The underage slut.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
They were like, Okay, we need to cast a slut,
and somebody was like, oh, my friend has really been
working on her acting, Like I think she could do
this role. That's what it felt like. She didn't feel
like a bonified slot. She felt like me playing a slot.
It felt like me coming on and being like, we
can't call him little fingers anymore because he has a.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Big penis.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Penis. It's just, yeah, I'm sorry. I thought her friend
was not the best actress, and for that reason, Canny Valley,
I do not think I could do better.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's why I felt like this shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And that's okay, And you are not the only other
actor out there, And that's why we are able to
critique this because there are many people to choose from.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Like yeah, exactly exactly. It doesn't need to be me,
it could be anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah. I found that interesting with the casting of the
lead where yeah, it's like she didn't grow up speaking
asl she's British. This is the one time I've ever
been like, we should have cast an America. And I
hate teens. I hate teens doing acting. They do that
breathy bullshit with their lines where they say no dad.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I looked up fair all the three main high schoolers British, Canadian,
Irish trying to do American.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You'll never understand.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Wow, wow, happy burning sadly. And you said how many
shoes are in the ocean, and probably a lot? Gosh,
I had never thought about that before. They caught so
many shoes that happens in like fishing games, like as
a joke.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, like you pick up a boot, a little an
old leather boot, and you say, hah hah, there's probably
a ton. But this was a Nike sneaker.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, oh my gosh, Leanna, you said the only thing
more annoying than a drama kid acquire kid did you.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Acquire No, I was watching this was interesting. I had
a personality.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh oh, oh oh, I thought you were gonna say
I was interesting. I didn't acquire, but I did do
blah blah. I thought I'm gonna explain.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Had stuff to say that made others laugh and experience joy.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love when he hands When mister V hands that
one girl like a Morocca thing or whatever that was
that and she does it so poorly he has to
take it away. That completely real. At my school, I'm
really sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm just over the archetype of teacher with kind of
a god complex who's mean to you and yells at
everybody and treats children in a way that's insane.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So I watched this with my current partner ex acapella person. Wow,
Kelsey's an ex acapella person, and he was horrified watching this.
He was like, no, no, we can't go back. I
can't go back. No, No, he horrified because it felt
so real. I think he just found it so cringe.
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People taking singing so seriously.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And we were talking about how this is the person
at school, Like it's funny in the movie, but this
this teacher at school would be so fired. Oh my god,
like court martials, sassy, cruel, treats kids like adults in
a way that is kind of hard on them. You know,
(22:19):
you're wasting my time. They would be so fired.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did love him though kind of felt like he was
in a different movie, But I loved him.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He absolutely was. He was in a different movie in
a different tax bracket as well. What was that house?
Oh my gosh, his coastal mansion. There was a moment,
but he lives in on a choir teachers salary with
the child's at a public school in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What class of eighty nine? Berkeley College? I'm sorry when
they brought up Berkeley, I called it before it even
the words even appeared on the screen.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh did you really?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It was like I think, have you thought about college?
And I'm like, they're gonna say Berkeley School of Music?
Bir Oh my god, because okay, Sleigh, this movie is
like Glee. It's like, well, what does a girl who
likes to sing on a boat want to do? She
needs to did they did they mention Glee?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah? He was like, I'll find out which of you
are tenors? Which of you are altos and which of
you just watched too much Glee? This movie was like ugh, ughly,
we are tired, you said, Am I in a bad mood?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Or do I hate this movie? I feel like this
is gonna switch. The second half was a completely different film,
much like Knows for All I think different, but it
was switched on this phy. I think I enjoyed this.
I enjoyed her family when they stopped. Like the mom
to me felt like an archetype also for a lot
of the movie, and then she started feeling more like
a three dimensional character. And in the last third of
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the film, I thought the dad was really good. There
just was much more emotional connection at the end. And
I struggled so much with this idea that they rely
solely on this one person to interpret for them. Yeah,
and don't care at all about what she wants to
do with her life. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was interesting.
(24:15):
It was so interesting. The second half I really liked
a lot. I really felt the frustration and the pain
of like, oh, you need to be there for your
family who needs you, and they've become reliant on her,
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's true, it's interesting they wouldn't think about that but
it did feel like she had sort of self centered
and scared parents. You know, they just didn't know how
to love her in that way, you know, but they
kind of learned together as a family. This is kind
of random right now, But what was sort of a
significant moment for me, because definitely there were though the
(24:50):
singing part was it was necessarily stupid. We are too
we are to sort of drama kid esquely, this is
just it's stupid and we know that. But a lot
of the stuff about disability was interesting and uh maybe
(25:11):
me think a lot workers' rights really frustrating, really interesting.
There were some moments of tension, like when she had
to she wanted to go to the to sing and
the news was here. It was just so heartbreaking and
so frustrating and stressed me out so much. When she
was looking at her phone.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh my gosh, I was in fight or flight during
that scene, so I was dressed us.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think the parents were so good I would have
watched them. I wish it had been a whole movie
of them, to be honest. But the part when she
was singing and they were trying their best to pay attention,
it was an interesting thing for me where I was like,
oh yeah, even beyond not obviously being able to hear
their daughter singing, there's no reason why they would have
(25:57):
sort of any sense of like a hearing one hearing
moment being I mean obviously they know that, but like
for them, their actual experience of her singing isn't like
a particularly poignant moment the wait, it is for everybody else,
because it's just like another hearing Like it's such a
hearing moment to hear somebody say I was.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I was being so problematic during that scene because my
superiority complex came in with a vengeance where I was
like yet another reason why drama kids are more interesting
than choir kids, Because if you're deaf and you go
to a drama club performance, at least we're fucking doing
something with our bodies. We're wearing fun costumes. There's a
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lot visually that's interesting to look at. These just stood
in line for an hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, bump, bump.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I'm really sorry. I'm sorry. I find choir so annoying.
I don't know why I have such a beef with choir,
but I do make the ugliest noise you can.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Ah, ah, what did you think of the parent actors.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I thought that they both did a great job. I
was frustrated with the mom character. Yeah, I thought for
a lot of the film it was an annoying trope
of the mom is the bad guy, the dad is
the understanding one.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, that does always happen.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, they got away from the end.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
For the first I found her very unsympathetic for the
first like two thirds of the movie. Is when she
like when her daughter tells her she's doing choir and
her mom's like, why are you doing that? Oh? I
enjoy it and I'm making friends. Yeah, it was so odd.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's a good point. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, and I guess I guess where it felt strange.
People can change over the course of a film. Great
this one, it felt like the whole time they were
telling us like, oh, but her daughter like loves her parents, Like,
that's not the issue. The conflict here isn't that she
has bad parents. That's not what we're doing. And I
was like, but you're writing this mom as if she's
like doing a bad job parents.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
An interesting point. Yeah, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's which again, once they had that scene, Yeah, once
they had that scene where her mom and she and
her mom talk about like the day she was born
and it's just the two of them in her room.
I was like, great, and then from there, from then out,
I loved the mom. He looked so much like a
weathered fisherman. I googled him. I was like fisherman, question Mark,
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and they're like, no, he's been an actor for decades
since the eighties. And I was like, oh my god, what.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Look at your mom. She's hot.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh. I didn't like that. They were quite crass about sex,
and I'm so comfortable parents don't have sex. I don't
know why we're putting forth this narrative that they do. Oh, Ciena,
you wrote I've never done anything without my family before
me doing my taxes wrong. Sorry, I would say, just you, yeah,
(29:09):
it is me generally. How did you feel like, did
you connect with the the through line of like a
very tight knit family totally?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, the Titan family, and especially in high school when
she said to her like, beyond just her being a translator,
I keep saying that, beyond just her being an interpreter
and uh, you know, being the one hearing person in
her family, when he was like, you know you got
to be able to be places on time, You got
to be able to you know, you're letting me down.
(29:38):
When mister B was saying all that, and she eventually
was just like, I've never done anything without my family. Hmmm,
I felt completely that way in high school.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, I think that put that actually was a really
good way of putting what's so weird about growing up
and what's so scary about it, you know, is it's like, hmm,
I'm from a close family and we do everything together.
I loved from they all went to audition together. You
didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I liked that they drove there together. I thought that
was sweet. Then when they have a lot of qualms
with the audition scene, I.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Love that they didn't care. I love how much didn't
And I think some of that was that I liked
the family care.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I liked.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
The audition scene. You mean I I did not understand.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
What that one like the piece of fiction where they
let the child who showed up thirty minutes after her
audition slot still audition bring in her own teacher to
do the score for her. That would start the song
over and have her family in the auditorium for the
audition no, no Hano Debez.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But his character was completely from another movie. I'm sorry
when you give in, Oh play the music, I'll play
for her.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I guess what what I didn't like about it was
the Fisher people like the fish side of the movie
felt so grounded in reality and so like dealing with
harsh every day yep, things that people in this town
were going through. The whole felt like complete fantasy fiction.
(31:16):
I completely agree, And I was like, I don't know
how to I reconcile these two. I was in one movie.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
That's the thing. That's a really good way of putting
when I was like, this is was the Oscar movie
of the of twenty twenty one? Because it was it
was two different movies.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That is what it felt like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, it was very interesting. It was strange, but it
wasn't really in like a super campy or purposeful way.
It didn't feel like that, you know. It wasn't like
the lighting changed and she suddenly in this fantasy world.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah it was strange.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It was strange. Yeah. I loved that her family didn't g.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
G and f.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Sorry everybody, if you'll excuse me, I need to go
sing my auditions And it's going to take a little
over three minutes. That's how long they are, right, We'll
be right.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I'm believable.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Leani, you said, sometimes you hear a special voice and
it reminds you to keep making music. Hah, fuck all
the other choir kids. I guess he says that at
the choir concert.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah, all the choir is done performing and they
leave the stage, and then he's doing the intro for
the duet and he says that, And I'm like, imagine
being one of the other obviously annoying but still a
human choir kids. Still, and you hear the choir teachers
say that, and you're like, what the hell? They already
got the solo. We already knew that they were the
(32:47):
right You had to go and also say that, uh huh.
So when I sing, you don't feel like making music?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Okay, I never want to make music again. Leanna, you said,
you said, the next hetero couple I have to watch
snog I'm gonna kms. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the other
thing is like this, So the mean teacher loves her,
(33:19):
pairs her with the guy she has a crush on.
They fall in love, they kiss, they sing a song together.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I would obviously I have a lot of personal bitterness
tied to this kind of a plot line, but it
was so annoying.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I would call this movie the opposite of No Speratu
and everybody for our take on nos Feratu, you can
visit our patreon for a bonus monthly video episode both
on the same day and just thinking about like this
one is such a predictable sort of Hollywood and.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Then it is a black ohmen, at least no one
in this movie died while inside another dead person. That's
that thing is That is why.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We're watching movies by women, because I haven't explains about
the choir kid thing. But nobody died boning each other
and I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, we've done a lot of criticizing of the pieces
of the piece that we did not enjoy that disturbed
our piece. But Siena, let's let's award the movies and
badges and trages, badges.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
For badges for barges, badges for barges and tradges.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
For taking a large profit of the workers earnings. Yes, gosh,
that was so frustrated taking a large portion. Oh, I
have a badge for nature. I appreciated their appreciation for
nature and how she found the lake the Lakes Massachusetts,
(35:04):
the Lake a New England lake can be a rejuvenating spot.
That was so beautiful. Oh, I got.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I had a badge for the parents again. I loved
these actors so much. I already knew Marley Matlin, but
I had not seen this guy before. I thought they
were fantastic. And also I loved that they were just
spicy parents, even though you know, they had flaws. They
loved each other. They were crass, but you know they
they were Actually they were characters, and they were strong characters.
(35:34):
I thought they were awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm going to require so much psychoanalysis about why I
don't like it when parents bang. Really I love to
look into My other badge is a badge for when
they fade out the sound during the duet at the
choir concert, so you see how the concert feels from
the family's perspective. That was great. I was actually hoping
(35:59):
they were going to do something like that at some point,
because there's do you know the show Strictly Come Dancing
m It's the UK's equivalent of Dancing with the Stars,
And there was one season a few years ago where
one of the contestants was deaf, and for the most part,
for almost every dance they played music for it, and
(36:21):
she could hear it. I think she either had a
cochlear implant or she could feel like the rhythm of
the base of the music. But for one of the
numbers they faded out the music so that for like
a full minute of the dance. Whoa, they're dancing in silence.
And it was really so beautiful. Wow, I have boosebumps now. No,
(36:44):
it was complete silence.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Wow, that is so cool.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It was really lovely. So I liked that moment a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, me too. It's always powerful to in some way
when movies can show you somebody else's experience in some way,
it's like, I think that's a powerful use of the
medium that we yeah, so much trouble with. That's exactly right, Yeah,
badge for ASL. I just love ASL. It is so
(37:11):
compelling language. It's just animated and visual and so much depth,
and I really I really enjoyed a lot of the
speeches they had.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's the end of my badges. Oh sorry too, Okay,
I feel so problematic, not like, but then I think
it would be problematic to like it just for the
sake of liking it because it represents an underrepresented community.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I think you're right that there were two movies happening.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, and one of them.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Is the worst thing to kid could ever watch. Yeah,
that's true. Badge for And I'm sorry. I know my
mom really likes it, but I think it's because you
haven't experienced the trauma of really annoying singer kids. Mom.
Badge for these parents can't stop banging.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I think that's awesome. No badge for love this Dad.
I also love Marley Mattlin. I think the first scene
that's just like her and her daughter, even though she
was being like a bad mom. I was just so
struck by how compelling that scene was compared to everything
else i'd seen.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Oh can I give one more badge? A badge for
the scene after the concert where her dad asks her
to sing the song for him on the truck. Yeah,
and he like feels it through her. That was really sweet.
That was really great.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
That was really really sweet. Oh yeah, just okay. I'd
say if I was going to give a critique of
this movie in just a few words, it would be
that this was like six Oscar Worthy scenes after seventy
minutes of Glee, and so those final oscar Worthy scenes
were really good and compelling. It just felt like, oh, okay,
(38:54):
here's all the Oscar stuff, because before that it was
just like a girl singing with a boy. Yeah, but
I think those scenes were really good, and like when
it was just her alone talking to her parents, those
scenes are super compelling. I just loved the speeches that
her parents gave, and I thought it was sweet when
she started signing during her singing. I'm just really critical
(39:17):
of the fact that they didn't get somebody who's been
doing it since birth, but because I'm like, I think
that would have made it even more powerful. But that
again is me being a nitpicker or an idealistic and
idealistic viewer. But I thought that was really pretty and Okay, yeah,
I started crying. Okay, all right, they got me, Okay,
all right, they got right badge for I love that
(39:37):
they started the successful business yeah, a movie where they
they succeed in they left the price gougey Yeah, and
they started the business go off. And finally I did
actually love when mister V messes up the piano so
she has to start again because she's doing so bad
that he's.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like, oops, my bad.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Mm hmmm. Anyway, love that trages. I literally went when
he did that, I literally said out loud, genius.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
My first trage is for dead fish. Yeah, there were
a dead fish in this.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
A lot of them, and they were smashing them around
with their feet, and I was.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like, is there a teen stomping on my fish? When
I eat a fish? Has it been stomped on by
a teen? A Massachusetts teen who doesn't want to be
doing this?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's possible. Trage for my very first tradge that I
wrote down, probably very early on, is the singing part
is cringe for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
A trage for class ending in the middle of a
lecture that never ever happens in real life and in
every film the teacher is like and then in nineteen
thirty nine Germany decided to and the bell rings and
the like, well, I guess that's it for TA. I'm like, no,
you finished the lecture. You spend like ten minutes talking
(41:05):
about the homework. Yeah, around papers?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Kind of awkward?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, what what? I hate that in films?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Trasge for again. I wrote this in probably the first
twenty minutes. I wrote, not quite as a complex as
I expected.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Hmm, interesting, interesting, interesting that you want deaf people to
have complex lives.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
No, it's because it's an Oscar Worthy movie. It's the
movie because so much Oscar buzz I could not believe
it was about a singing teen. But again, as the
movie went on, I think that that critique would then
be turned into there are two stories going on, because
they didn't bring up the workers' rights part very deeply
until the second half, which was a very true. That
(41:54):
was a compelling, very compelling film.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Uh. Trage for not being allowed to sit down when
the choir teacher comes in is like, nope, stand up everyone.
Oh my gosh. I became exhausted at the memory of
having to stand up out of my chair during the
singing sessions. The singing is horrible for the school musical horrible.
Let me sit down, Trag'm not a born singer. I
(42:18):
want to sit.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I was born to sit, not to sing. Trage for
that scene where everybody knows more than you about something
and you realize it when you get to the room, terrifying.
That was all of college for the audition. I didn't
know about this m college when I got to an
arts program and everybody was talking about artists and I
was like, Okay, no, I'm taking this class because I've
never heard of one. I don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I know like Vincent van Goh, and that should be allowed.
It's so annoying when people already know things. It's terrible
trage for outside clothes on the bed. When she and
her friend are over at her house, they're both lying
on her bed with not even the duvet, the comforter
up on the sheets, in their outside clothes.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
And they were probably fishing.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, oh fishy bed.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Trag for. Again, that doesn't bother me that much, but
I get it trag for. Is there some scenes with
her speech where it really did not feel like she
grew up doing asl And I was like, oh, that's
such a missed opportunity in my opinion, But.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Uh, trage for. I really don't get high school bullying
as depicted in movies. Okay, I don't know if I
don't remember high school fish girl, but.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
What slop flop fish girl? What oh smells like fish
fish girl?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I just don't your parents are deaf, eh, I don't
think that is happening.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
She seemed to be the in the world getting bullied.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Also, yeah, odd, odd, Yeah, I have another odd depiction
of high school.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like oh yeah, mean girls are gonna be like, oh,
you're a fishy fish girl, like we hate you. I guess, yeah,
I really don't get it. My final trage is my
first trag, which was, Okay, this is this movie is
a little cringe. And every time I wrote that thing down,
it was when they were having a singing scene. So
I think, yep, yep, I think we get it.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yep. A trage for this. This will be my last trage.
A trage for why doesn't anyone ever explain what's going
on or try to reschedule when they can't make something. Yeah,
the scene where the news showed up and she couldn't
go to music practice because she then had to interpret
(44:30):
for her parents for the news. I was like, this
would have been on their calendar. She could easily just
text her music tutor and say, hey, I'm really sorry,
this is what's going on. Could we maybe move these
sessions to a later time, given that I'm always late
to them, could we maybe move these to a half
(44:50):
hour later because I'm consistently arriving at five twenty, So
if we started at five point thirty, we could avoid
this problem. And instead she's like, I have a lot
going on, Like just say, the news showed up and
it was a really huge thing.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Just explain what family going on? Family thing.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't like that. It's like how you feel about
when people don't answer questions in movies they just walk away.
That's how I feel when people when there's some sort
of like misunderstanding, yes, unavoidable misunderstanding. Hate that.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Well, Yahn show onto our next segment, which is, of course,
how to pretend you've seen this film. This is for Yes,
you are standing by the water, just trying to look
at the nice the nice looking at the lake of
a Massachusetts lake, and Miles Miles, Miles on.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
A boat full of shoes, the tallest, palest, skinniest boy
in school.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
He says, I was just coming to dump all these
shoes in the water because I'm done with them. You say,
don't do that. So many about things happening in the class,
so many about things to our environment, He says, Hey,
you know.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Sitting on that rock singing Happy Birthday to yourself really
reminded me of a film.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Of a film I saw I liked all the crassness.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Shout at you crassley about it at a time.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, you've never even heard of it. It was Oscar buzz,
but most girls haven't seen it. And uh. In order
to in.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Order smiles out of the conversation and rescue the lake
from shoetom, here are.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
A few things you can say to pretend you've seen
the film Coda.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Miles, I've seen the film Coda, or as I like
to call it, cod.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Cod uh a cod cod ah. I'm sorry, this is
what I hate Hollywood. Yes, Miles, I have seen Coda.
Two fun facts are the onset interpreters. We're all Coda's
that children of deff adults, which makes sense. I think
(46:53):
that's really common for interpreters. And then also the other
fact is that Amelia Jones spent nine months learning American
sign language, having singing lessons, and learning how to operate
a fishing trawler.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Okay, wow, so they just got like a pretty British girl.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Why not get someone who went any other parts the
four things that are part of this fishing sign language,
singing and being American. She didn't know any of them.
Why is it that we do things this way?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Interesting. She did a good job acting wise, but that
is interesting.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I get why she's just good. I didn't think she
was bad. I just just is this how we really
go about it?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, Miles, I've seen Coda, and I'm going to tell
you now what the teacher told her Ruby in the
film during a moment of being frustrated. I have a
whole life that has nothing to do with you, and
I need to get back to it, Miles, so please
paddle away. Wow.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
This sucks, Yes, it sucks, but then it's good and
also makes it clear maybe why this was such an
impactful film at the time.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And I'm being.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Nippicky, but uh, yes, Miles, I have seen Coda. When
it became clear to the financiers that Sean Hayter intended
to cast real deaf actors for all the deaf characters,
the financiers threatened to withdraw their funding. What I guess,
because they thought it wasn't gonna have enough pull like
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they wanted more.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
That's so wild. That is wow.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
So sorry Sean for being so rude, because I know
that you did you you cared.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
But then Marley Mattlin then said that she would pull
out if that turned out to be the case and
they reverse their decision, So way to go, Marley.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
She has so much power work.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
But like, what the hell? That is insane?
Speaker 2 (48:45):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
That would be horrible. Imagine if it was like, I
don't know, Ben Affleck playing.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
The dad, Oh god, and it would have been Ben
Affleck as well.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
That would have been so so's Boston way less impactful
and offensive. That a they didn't cast anybody in b
They thought that any that any actor could be just
as good as somebody who actually speaks asl.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Hmmm, true, Miles, stop it. I've seen coda and you're
being as dumb right now as when the dad says,
in response to the mom saying our baby is moving away,
the dad says she was never a baby, which, when
(49:37):
you think about it for one second at all, is
biologically false.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
She never was a baby due.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
To the fact that at one point she was in
fact literally a baby. Now put the shoe down and
get out of the lake. I love that. I think
I was never a baby. That would have been inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
It is really funny imagining you as a baby.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
That is hilarious, Like what was I doing pissing myself.
I don't think so. I think I was just kind
of keeping it all together and being reserved.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yes, Myles, I have seen the film Coda. Troy Kotzer,
the dad in this, was the first deaf male actor
to win an OSCAR for this movie. I think he
won Best Supporting Actor, which he totally deserved. And then
Marley Mattlin, who was the mom in this movie, was
the first deaf female actress to win an OSCAR for
(50:38):
Children of a Lesser God, which is I think what?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Oh yeah, in the nineties, Sleigh Sleigh, Sianna, should we
jump off the cliff into our next segment?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
This is, of course, is yes, should you watch this
or or boat, in which we tell you if we
think you should watch the movie or if you should
do something else with your time?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Leanna, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I think, Yes, you can watch Coda. I think it's
important to see stories totally about people with disabilities. A
because like giving them an additional view is important industry wise,
not that they get enough royalties because it's on a
streaming platform, but B because it's just interesting, like it
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moddens the horizons totally. It was also an interesting way
to watch a movie, like, I watched it differently than
I would have watched a movie without as many subtitles,
because I literally had to watch. Yeah, that's so often
I often am not I'm often looking away or distracted,
and so it's certainly a worthwhile watch. But you if
(51:46):
you are a former performer from high school, you will
absolutely a lot of moments that you totally take for yourself.
What would you say, Sienna.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
I feel exactly the same. I think it's actually totally
worth a watch, even though we were critical. It's uh,
I've also been lucky to see probably it like if
you've never seen any content with any deaf actors, or
seen a lot of deaf content on TV or anything.
I mean, I think it's totally worth watching that getting
(52:17):
into it. Yeah, there's a lot that I really liked
about the movie. I think it's totally worth a watch.
And as long as you're bracing yourself. The only reason
we were so weird a out is because we were
completely blindsided by the fact that it was a Glee movie.
So just know that there'll be some cringey whatever stuff.
And if you weren't a drama kid, I don't think
it'll bother you as much.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I don't think it survived. I think you'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
But besides that, it's very sweet and I really love
the actors in it, and it makes me want to
watch Marley Mattlin and more stuff. It makes me want
to watch Troy Kotzer and more so. Anyway, and uh,
you know it's a movie about uh about workers' rights
as well, and they win the side school. So yeah, Leona,
what would you rate this movie? It's an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Give Coda four stomped fish out of five. For just
the plot line itself, I would give it like a
two and a half.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, I think this is a good way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
What the plot was so weird for like, for what
it did as a movie and for Hollywood. Yeah, I
think it did so true todle forward in an important,
like societal way. That's so true. And I think a
lot of the performances were very good, and the ending
was actually really good. It was just like the first
part that was so annoyally weird, and that audition scene
(53:30):
was a complete work of fiction. It life And she
would never get into the Berkeley School of me totally,
not with that behavior. Totally Sienna, how about you.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, I would give Coda. I'm going to give this
film three point five full ponytails out of five, which,
by the way, she oh yeah wow, her hair was amazing.
But uh yeah, I completely agree the ways that it
was awesome. It was really awesome. All the main actors
were great. Even though I had some gripes about wishing that,
(54:00):
you know, she was actually a Coda, she was very
good for this role. And the brother and the the
parents were just so awesome. There was so much that
I enjoyed about. It was very sweet and as long
as you know it's.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Cringe, nor is the worst thing. I'm free exactly being
cringe is not the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
And super sweet. Yeah, and now I've seen Coda.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
That was our review of it. Thank you everyone. We
are Tossed Popcorn as always. You can find us on
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about that film, and please join us next week when
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we will be watching Is it Time, It is Time,
It's Time, It's the World's.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
About and it's time for us to watch promising young woman.
Whoo yeah, whooooooooo woo.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Thank you, We love you. Bye.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
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You said, why does she have a Cthulhu stuffed animal?
(55:44):
Did she see this?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
I guess cause she's the corner of room is like
a Cthulhu ass squid. And then at the end of
the movie, when she's moving to college thirty minutes away,
uh huh, he brings out Cuthulhu and hands her to
her is distracting. It's distracting to put Kuthulhu in the
corner of a film.
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, I'm Sienna
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the podcast where two idiots watched every film on the
AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of All Time, the
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very slightly less racist tenth Anniversary edition, and are now
watching films that we choose that are now directed by women.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This podcast is a safe fishing barge for people who
don't know anything about movies. Today we are watching Coda.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're gonna Sell our own.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Flesh, a film with lots of Oscar buzz around it.
A couple of years ago, it was the thing warning
there will be spoilers about this sweet film. All al right, okay, okay,
oh Sienna, let's just blast through these predictions because I
(01:09):
gotta get to hay girl.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
God, just here. Had you seen this before? No? I hadn't.
Okay me neither, ok okay yours. First, we are so problematic.
We don't see any of the groundbreaking films I know
when they actually come out. We try to do mine first.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Then we'll try and we'll see and then we're screwed.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh yeah, fuck up? Okay, okay, great, Ready we are
the problem. Yes, Hi, Sienna's Leanna. I'm about to watch Coda.
I've heard great things. I you know, I'm just not
really in the mood to watch movie right now.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But when am I ever?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What else is new? I predict? I you know, apparently
it's beautiful, So okay, it'll be that. Love you bye woo.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, Leanna my prediction.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm about to watch duh. My mom really likes this
movie and I've been waiting to watch it for forever,
but I've never seen it. I know it's about the
child of a deaf parent of a child of deaf adult?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Is that actually what code means? Something like that?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But I predict it will make me cry or at
least cheer up. I guess I never say that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh yep, okay, he love be goodbye?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Oh I think that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I knew it was a music symbol, and I was like,
why is this the title of the fils A music
an idiot? Oh? We are idiots? Okay, between the two
of us, we oh okay, I almost understood not.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
To be rude, but that makes so much sense. Somebody
found out about both those terms, and they're like, I
gottam this movie. And also they're gonna be fishermen maybe
because of well I've already seen your first note.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But anyway, my perfect first note. Thank you, Leonna hay Girl.
Hey girl, Well I guess i'll start.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You got chastised at the post office.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh my gosh, I got chastised twice at the post
office this I had to ship things internationally twice this week.
One my brother's Christmas present to him because it finally
arrived that those keeping tabs on the journey from Latvia
to now California, although they shipped it through Los Angeles,
(03:34):
so it's currently in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
The Latvia gift.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, it might not get to him because it's in
Los Angeles. And I went and I brought my little
envelope and the items, and I went to the counter
and I said, Hi, I need to ship this to
California please, because I don't understand how the mail works,
so I didn't know what I was supposed to put
into what where. No, they were like, oh my god,
you need to get away from the counter and write
the address on this envelope and put everything in there
(04:00):
and come back once all of that is done.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, that's why I'm asking.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, all right, I also feel like maybe I could
just write it down here and a way to really
send me away, just so that you can sell some
stamps to the next person. And it's not gonna take
me that long, okay. And then today I had to
ship some items for work and they had batteries in them,
(04:29):
and I almost nearly got arrested. I mean, the reaction
was such. I tried to use the self Kiosk, the
self checkout area and was quickly chastised because apparently that's
only for items being shipped within the UK. And I
was like, and where was the sign for that? Please?
And then I tried to put all of them in
(04:51):
one envelope and they said, oh my god, you can't
do that because they might all rub together and explode
in the post together. Well, now, why.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Are we the other had explode?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They would repine. Sorry about that phrase there, I'm hearing
it back now.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well they might there horny batteries, That's what they said
to me.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And I said okay, And then I'd written the return
address on the envelope, and they were like, you can't
write two addresses on one envelope because the scanner scans
the first address it sees. And I at that point
literally said out loud, well this is going terribly. That's
what they want. And he said, yeah, it's not going great,
(05:32):
and I said, well what am I?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Okay? They have the mail? How could they ever have
British comedy of things? There went, well, I feel like
people need to be like, oh bother, oh bother, and
I was very O bother. I was oh bother.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But everything got mailed and I think it's all good. Well,
the King's face is on a lot of pieces of
mail now that I've sent this week, gosh, because I
had to send today's stuff in multiple envelopes to avoid
the battery is rubbing together and exploding.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Enough with the King, Enough with the King.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
America seventeen seventy six. Enough with the King. We're over him.
And that's been a big thing in my week. Dying Siena,
Hey girl, you are not in Los Angeles County currently.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I left Los Angeles because of the fires, the many fires,
and I'm here in Orange County at my partner's parents place.
Thank you so much for housing us. All of a sudden,
my house is safe. It is not burned up. There's
lots of highway around. So as long as nothing goes
God's danly wrong, it should be fine. But the problem
(06:42):
with today's day and age and climate change is that
things are happening differently than they ever have before. So
you just can't count on anything. But yeah, flames. My
house going up in flames, not a bit. The biggest
thing that we're worried about, all good, Okay, okay, I
think that's been really bad is air quality. That's why
everybody had to because there's literally so much smoke. There
was so much ash in the air. And it's not
(07:05):
just forest fires. They keep talking about the forest fires,
which is true, but it's not just forest fire smoke.
It's property fires. So there's so much toxic stuff in
the air. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm on the east side
by the eaten fire. So here's what happened the other night. Also,
if you're wondering, oh the stuff is happening in Los Angeles,
(07:25):
I wonder if it's affecting the people. I know it
almost certainly is, because it's happening on either side of
Los Angeles. Almost everybody I know has evacuated for the
last few days because the air quality is like horrible,
horrible unless you can stay inside and you have a
really good air, pure fire. If you have somewhere else
to go, it's just safer to be gone. So Tuesday night,
some actually Tuesday in the morning, my partner Kelsey, texted
(07:49):
me a picture of this fire because he works really
far on the west side, so he could see the
Palisades from where he was, and he sent me this
picture and I actually hearted it because I thought he
was sending me a picture of the view, but in
fact there was smoke that I didn't notice in the picture.
And he said, you love the fire and I said, oh,
I was wrong. Oh, And that was the first glimpse
(08:12):
we saw of the fire. Is He's like, at this
he was actually another museum for some work thing, and
he was they could see it had a perfect view
of just smoke coming up from the palisades, and he's like,
it looks like there's a really bad fire there. So
it keeps going on throughout the day and we get
news updates that the Palisades are burning. We're like, that's
really bad, and then it gets really, really really windy.
(08:32):
The Santa Ana winds are hitting or some kind of winds.
Tuesday night, it's so so so windy. It was so
windy I was afraid and it was going to fall
in my car. So I went outside to go move
my car. So much stuff got in my eyes and
the wind was so glowing so hard that I saw
that I wasn't under a tree, and I just gave up.
So I turned around. Kelsey is really near to that
fire on the west or he looks near to me
(08:54):
like the only thing between him and the fires is
a bunch of trees, and he lives on one, in
like a secluded area where there's just one street. So
I text him and I'm like, please, please please come over,
Please come over before a tree falls and you can't
get out and something horrible happens. Please go now because
it's so windy. And he took his damn sweet time
stuff to get over, and I was so stressed. And
(09:14):
he finally he drives over, but all the power's going out.
My power never went out, but the power went out
all across the city. He finally drives over. By the
time it gets to me, a fire on my side
of town has sprung up. Oh my god, so now
that Eaton fire is going on. We thought we were
gonna have sort of like a power out night, or
if the power was on, we just all just like
hunker down and watch a movie together. So we put
(09:35):
on the movie Babe.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
One of my roommates is like, I don't know, I
just really want to watch Babe right now, So Babe.
And then we put the news on next to Babe
because we've been watching it all night to just make
sure that the fire isn't coming to my side of town.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, and it looked like it was okay.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
By the time we're going to bed, it was going
east instead of towards us. We go fantastic.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
We go to bed.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The morning, we all wake up at like seven forty
five coughing itching so much ashes in the air that
has gotten into our house despite the shut windows.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We're all like, we gotta get out of here. So
the first thing in the morning, all my friends from
the area come over. There were like fifteen people in
the house and we all just figured out where we
were leaving too, because we had to evacuate. Going outside,
you could not spend more than a minute out there
because there's so much ash and soot and my car
was covered in ash and we're like miles from everything,
(10:30):
but you can tell it's toxic. It's like plastic, it's paint,
it's not just yeah, but it was just super super
super windy, and embers were flying across the city and
everything caught on fire. Wow, and the fire is just
getting fed. And the other thing that I'm learning so
much about is, you know, people are like, oh, they're
not containing it. They're not containing it. Fire is fire.
(10:50):
It's just gonna burn. There's nothing you can do. What
are you gonna do? Wet the sides and then hope
it stopped, Like you have to wait until it kind
of just simmers.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Now, So dumb, I did think that's what you did.
There's too much fire that you wetted the side.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
There's not enough people. There's too much fire once it's
starting to settle down, and there aren't winds just straight
up feeding it. I think there's more they can do,
but mm hmmm, it's just it feeds itself. We we are,
but we are but men on this earth. We have
The climate change is so problematic and it's so important
for us to work to stop it because we ca
this is what happens nature that much.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, what is that? Colossal? Wow? Yeah? So gez Yeah,
so I.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Guess it won't make my improv show tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Hm anywow geez. Okay, Well, I'm so glad you're safe.
Well well Leanna speaking of coastal towns. Yeah, film, let's
get into it. Gosh, this feels like such a hairpin
turned into a podcast. Leona.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Your first note, which I have read because I actually.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh no, we need a synopsis please of the film.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh my gosh, crap.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I did my worries. Honestly, no worries. If not, you've
been dealing with a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's where I drop a line that it can record.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I'm not doing this synonymsense, okay, Coda.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Ruby is the only hearing member of a death fishing family.
The two things happening in this movie are that the
fishermen of the area in Maine are trying to get
better pa Massachusetts. Oh crap, wait, yeah, hmm, I ask
you a number of questions.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
College in Boston, and it's thirty minutes away.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I saw fishermen and I just assumed I like, bring
up Maine through this a number of times and ask
you about your experience. Did two things happening in this
movie That the fishermen of Massachusetts are trying to get
better pay and they eventually start their own company because
they just keep getting price couched and it's really frustrating
(13:07):
to watch. And also Ruby loves to sing. She's been
a translator for her close knit family her whole life,
and she is now trying to find her own way
as a senior in high school about to graduate. By
the end of the film, she's embraced her love of singing,
(13:31):
and she gets into Berkeley School of Music after singing
a beautiful but inappropriately long audition song the end.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Don't get me started on that audition. I was like,
there's no way throughout it, I kept saying, in what world?
In what world?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
This movie was sweet and uh, but I'm kind of
like rude about it a number of times.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh my god, thank god, girl, I oh, thank god.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm sorry. I don't mean this as like all the
all the deaf parts. Ate loved it, loved loved uh.
I just felt like there were a lot of favors
being traded in this film. Like the people. Some of
the people cast. I was like, now, how did you
end up here?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Just a few of them interesting?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And then all the Oscar Noms. I'm like, all the
Oscar Nams, the parents incredible, the main girl dad, the
job she was in it. This main actress clearly did
not British. First of all British. She clearly There were
a number of tis where I was like, sorry, is
(14:50):
she from a deaf family or background. She's not. She
just learned it from the movie which comes through.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I was surprised. I was surprised they did that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
My thing, I found the plot so annoying. I had
no incredibly annoying. And what I learned about myself is
I do not care for a film whose plot arches
toward the big audition. No singing, I'm not interested in
that a singing being movie.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
In a singing movie, somebody has to try to sing
and then they have to sing and we have to
watch them sing. No, that's like, it's definitely a risky film.
That's why I was, yeah that it just felt like
a very, very very Hollywood movie. Like I truly feel
like somebody said coda, but what about coda? And also
like your first note, what about cod?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And that was just me typing in the title of
the film to search it and I put in the
D and I said cod And then it turned out
to be so very about fish. Yeah, it really it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It feels like they said, let's make an oscar film. Okay,
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The code are the things we need in modern day.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I have some amazing deaf actors who I've wanted to
work with and have wanted to tell their story. I'm
gonna make some. There are some parts about the screenplay
that I enjoyed, like the speeches and stuff. I enjoyed them. Yeah,
so it's like, let's get them there. Then what else
can we do? What else can we do? Their daughter
loves to sing? Yeah, and not only will she love
to sing. Let's make it a classic audition movie.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
People love it. People eat that up.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And then I don't, And then listen, I got a
cousin with a fisherman boat in Massachusetts. You can shoot
there for real cheap. Not to completely hate. There are
many things I enjoyed, but I was like, this is coda.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know, I know, same, Okay, great, are you eating fish?
That seems like it might have been stomped on by
an angsty teen. That's fishing. We'll be back in a
few minutes.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
There's a lot that I enjoyed. And also I think,
really truly we have the main graph about this movie,
which is it It was a singing film, and.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I just I don't care for auditions and sings Happy Birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
When that was the audition song, I was like, that
is a famously hard song to sing. That song doesn't
fit in anyone's range because it was written in the
eighteenth century for people whose bodies were smaller.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Your first note, your first note is a fisherman with
a voice of gold, just like Jesus. Was he a fisherman?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, a construction worker.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He was what was her piper?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He wasn't a fisherman. Jesus was a designer. He wasn't
a fisherman.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
What's his thing with fish? He just had a lot
of them. He gaged you fish.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Fishermen were super in in the Bible, so he's represented
by the fish.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It was like the job, like product manager. Yeah exactly.
Now people do startups now.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Back then they were fishermen, so like a lot of
his friends were fishermen, so you know I got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Okay, Oh, this is really interesting, Ciana. You wrote every
high schooler in this is thirty and we love that,
and I thought they all were teens.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Really, Oh they looked so old to me. Mainly, Okay,
I'm sorry, this is just me being a hater. My
One of my main things about this movie were I
couldn't believe her friend. Her friend the slut, the slut who,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The underage slut.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
They were like, Okay, we need to cast a slut,
and somebody was like, oh, my friend has really been
working on her acting, Like I think she could do
this role. That's what it felt like. She didn't feel
like a bonified slot. She felt like me playing a slot.
It felt like me coming on and being like, we
can't call him little fingers anymore because he has a.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Big penis.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Penis. It's just, yeah, I'm sorry. I thought her friend
was not the best actress, and for that reason, Canny Valley,
I do not think I could do better.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's why I felt like this shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And that's okay, And you are not the only other
actor out there, And that's why we are able to
critique this because there are many people to choose from.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Like yeah, exactly exactly. It doesn't need to be me,
it could be anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah. I found that interesting with the casting of the
lead where yeah, it's like she didn't grow up speaking
asl she's British. This is the one time I've ever
been like, we should have cast an America. And I
hate teens. I hate teens doing acting. They do that
breathy bullshit with their lines where they say no dad.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I looked up fair all the three main high schoolers British, Canadian,
Irish trying to do American.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You'll never understand.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Wow, wow, happy burning sadly. And you said how many
shoes are in the ocean, and probably a lot? Gosh,
I had never thought about that before. They caught so
many shoes that happens in like fishing games, like as
a joke.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, like you pick up a boot, a little an
old leather boot, and you say, hah hah, there's probably
a ton. But this was a Nike sneaker.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, oh my gosh, Leanna, you said the only thing
more annoying than a drama kid acquire kid did you.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Acquire No, I was watching this was interesting. I had
a personality.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh oh, oh oh, I thought you were gonna say
I was interesting. I didn't acquire, but I did do
blah blah. I thought I'm gonna explain.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Had stuff to say that made others laugh and experience joy.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love when he hands When mister V hands that
one girl like a Morocca thing or whatever that was
that and she does it so poorly he has to
take it away. That completely real. At my school, I'm
really sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm just over the archetype of teacher with kind of
a god complex who's mean to you and yells at
everybody and treats children in a way that's insane.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So I watched this with my current partner ex acapella person. Wow,
Kelsey's an ex acapella person, and he was horrified watching this.
He was like, no, no, we can't go back. I
can't go back. No, No, he horrified because it felt
so real. I think he just found it so cringe.
(21:55):
People taking singing so seriously.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And we were talking about how this is the person
at school, Like it's funny in the movie, but this
this teacher at school would be so fired. Oh my god,
like court martials, sassy, cruel, treats kids like adults in
a way that is kind of hard on them. You know,
(22:19):
you're wasting my time. They would be so fired.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did love him though kind of felt like he was
in a different movie, But I loved him.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He absolutely was. He was in a different movie in
a different tax bracket as well. What was that house?
Oh my gosh, his coastal mansion. There was a moment,
but he lives in on a choir teachers salary with
the child's at a public school in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What class of eighty nine? Berkeley College? I'm sorry when
they brought up Berkeley, I called it before it even
the words even appeared on the screen.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh did you really?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It was like I think, have you thought about college?
And I'm like, they're gonna say Berkeley School of Music?
Bir Oh my god, because okay, Sleigh, this movie is
like Glee. It's like, well, what does a girl who
likes to sing on a boat want to do? She
needs to did they did they mention Glee?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah? He was like, I'll find out which of you
are tenors? Which of you are altos and which of
you just watched too much Glee? This movie was like ugh, ughly,
we are tired, you said, Am I in a bad mood?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Or do I hate this movie? I feel like this
is gonna switch. The second half was a completely different film,
much like Knows for All I think different, but it
was switched on this phy. I think I enjoyed this.
I enjoyed her family when they stopped. Like the mom
to me felt like an archetype also for a lot
of the movie, and then she started feeling more like
a three dimensional character. And in the last third of
(23:54):
the film, I thought the dad was really good. There
just was much more emotional connection at the end. And
I struggled so much with this idea that they rely
solely on this one person to interpret for them. Yeah,
and don't care at all about what she wants to
do with her life. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was interesting.
(24:15):
It was so interesting. The second half I really liked
a lot. I really felt the frustration and the pain
of like, oh, you need to be there for your
family who needs you, and they've become reliant on her,
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's true, it's interesting they wouldn't think about that but
it did feel like she had sort of self centered
and scared parents. You know, they just didn't know how
to love her in that way, you know, but they
kind of learned together as a family. This is kind
of random right now, But what was sort of a
significant moment for me, because definitely there were though the
(24:50):
singing part was it was necessarily stupid. We are too
we are to sort of drama kid esquely, this is
just it's stupid and we know that. But a lot
of the stuff about disability was interesting and uh maybe
(25:11):
me think a lot workers' rights really frustrating, really interesting.
There were some moments of tension, like when she had
to she wanted to go to the to sing and
the news was here. It was just so heartbreaking and
so frustrating and stressed me out so much. When she
was looking at her phone.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh my gosh, I was in fight or flight during
that scene, so I was dressed us.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think the parents were so good I would have
watched them. I wish it had been a whole movie
of them, to be honest. But the part when she
was singing and they were trying their best to pay attention,
it was an interesting thing for me where I was like,
oh yeah, even beyond not obviously being able to hear
their daughter singing, there's no reason why they would have
(25:57):
sort of any sense of like a hearing one hearing
moment being I mean obviously they know that, but like
for them, their actual experience of her singing isn't like
a particularly poignant moment the wait, it is for everybody else,
because it's just like another hearing Like it's such a
hearing moment to hear somebody say I was.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I was being so problematic during that scene because my
superiority complex came in with a vengeance where I was
like yet another reason why drama kids are more interesting
than choir kids, Because if you're deaf and you go
to a drama club performance, at least we're fucking doing
something with our bodies. We're wearing fun costumes. There's a
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lot visually that's interesting to look at. These just stood
in line for an hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, bump, bump.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I'm really sorry. I'm sorry. I find choir so annoying.
I don't know why I have such a beef with choir,
but I do make the ugliest noise you can.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Ah, ah, what did you think of the parent actors.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I thought that they both did a great job. I
was frustrated with the mom character. Yeah, I thought for
a lot of the film it was an annoying trope
of the mom is the bad guy, the dad is
the understanding one.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, that does always happen.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, they got away from the end.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
For the first I found her very unsympathetic for the
first like two thirds of the movie. Is when she
like when her daughter tells her she's doing choir and
her mom's like, why are you doing that? Oh? I
enjoy it and I'm making friends. Yeah, it was so odd.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's a good point. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, and I guess I guess where it felt strange.
People can change over the course of a film. Great
this one, it felt like the whole time they were
telling us like, oh, but her daughter like loves her parents, Like,
that's not the issue. The conflict here isn't that she
has bad parents. That's not what we're doing. And I
was like, but you're writing this mom as if she's
like doing a bad job parents.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
An interesting point. Yeah, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's which again, once they had that scene, Yeah, once
they had that scene where her mom and she and
her mom talk about like the day she was born
and it's just the two of them in her room.
I was like, great, and then from there, from then out,
I loved the mom. He looked so much like a
weathered fisherman. I googled him. I was like fisherman, question Mark,
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and they're like, no, he's been an actor for decades
since the eighties. And I was like, oh my god, what.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Look at your mom. She's hot.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh. I didn't like that. They were quite crass about sex,
and I'm so comfortable parents don't have sex. I don't
know why we're putting forth this narrative that they do. Oh, Ciena,
you wrote I've never done anything without my family before
me doing my taxes wrong. Sorry, I would say, just you, yeah,
(29:09):
it is me generally. How did you feel like, did
you connect with the the through line of like a
very tight knit family totally?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, the Titan family, and especially in high school when
she said to her like, beyond just her being a translator,
I keep saying that, beyond just her being an interpreter
and uh, you know, being the one hearing person in
her family, when he was like, you know you got
to be able to be places on time, You got
to be able to you know, you're letting me down.
(29:38):
When mister B was saying all that, and she eventually
was just like, I've never done anything without my family. Hmmm,
I felt completely that way in high school.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, I think that put that actually was a really
good way of putting what's so weird about growing up
and what's so scary about it, you know, is it's like, hmm,
I'm from a close family and we do everything together.
I loved from they all went to audition together. You
didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I liked that they drove there together. I thought that
was sweet. Then when they have a lot of qualms
with the audition scene, I.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Love that they didn't care. I love how much didn't
And I think some of that was that I liked
the family care.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I liked.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
The audition scene. You mean I I did not understand.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
What that one like the piece of fiction where they
let the child who showed up thirty minutes after her
audition slot still audition bring in her own teacher to
do the score for her. That would start the song
over and have her family in the auditorium for the
audition no, no Hano Debez.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But his character was completely from another movie. I'm sorry
when you give in, Oh play the music, I'll play
for her.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I guess what what I didn't like about it was
the Fisher people like the fish side of the movie
felt so grounded in reality and so like dealing with
harsh every day yep, things that people in this town
were going through. The whole felt like complete fantasy fiction.
(31:16):
I completely agree, And I was like, I don't know
how to I reconcile these two. I was in one movie.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
That's the thing. That's a really good way of putting
when I was like, this is was the Oscar movie
of the of twenty twenty one? Because it was it
was two different movies.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That is what it felt like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, it was very interesting. It was strange, but it
wasn't really in like a super campy or purposeful way.
It didn't feel like that, you know. It wasn't like
the lighting changed and she suddenly in this fantasy world.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah it was strange.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It was strange. Yeah. I loved that her family didn't g.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
G and f.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Sorry everybody, if you'll excuse me, I need to go
sing my auditions And it's going to take a little
over three minutes. That's how long they are, right, We'll
be right.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I'm believable.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Leani, you said, sometimes you hear a special voice and
it reminds you to keep making music. Hah, fuck all
the other choir kids. I guess he says that at
the choir concert.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah, all the choir is done performing and they
leave the stage, and then he's doing the intro for
the duet and he says that, And I'm like, imagine
being one of the other obviously annoying but still a
human choir kids. Still, and you hear the choir teachers
say that, and you're like, what the hell? They already
got the solo. We already knew that they were the
(32:47):
right You had to go and also say that, uh huh.
So when I sing, you don't feel like making music?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Okay, I never want to make music again. Leanna, you said,
you said, the next hetero couple I have to watch
snog I'm gonna kms. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the other
thing is like this, So the mean teacher loves her,
(33:19):
pairs her with the guy she has a crush on.
They fall in love, they kiss, they sing a song together.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I would obviously I have a lot of personal bitterness
tied to this kind of a plot line, but it
was so annoying.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I would call this movie the opposite of No Speratu
and everybody for our take on nos Feratu, you can
visit our patreon for a bonus monthly video episode both
on the same day and just thinking about like this
one is such a predictable sort of Hollywood and.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Then it is a black ohmen, at least no one
in this movie died while inside another dead person. That's
that thing is That is why.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We're watching movies by women, because I haven't explains about
the choir kid thing. But nobody died boning each other
and I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, we've done a lot of criticizing of the pieces
of the piece that we did not enjoy that disturbed
our piece. But Siena, let's let's award the movies and
badges and trages, badges.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
For badges for barges, badges for barges and tradges.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
For taking a large profit of the workers earnings. Yes, gosh,
that was so frustrated taking a large portion. Oh, I
have a badge for nature. I appreciated their appreciation for
nature and how she found the lake the Lakes Massachusetts,
(35:04):
the Lake a New England lake can be a rejuvenating spot.
That was so beautiful. Oh, I got.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I had a badge for the parents again. I loved
these actors so much. I already knew Marley Matlin, but
I had not seen this guy before. I thought they
were fantastic. And also I loved that they were just
spicy parents, even though you know, they had flaws. They
loved each other. They were crass, but you know they
they were Actually they were characters, and they were strong characters.
(35:34):
I thought they were awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm going to require so much psychoanalysis about why I
don't like it when parents bang. Really I love to
look into My other badge is a badge for when
they fade out the sound during the duet at the
choir concert, so you see how the concert feels from
the family's perspective. That was great. I was actually hoping
(35:59):
they were going to do something like that at some point,
because there's do you know the show Strictly Come Dancing
m It's the UK's equivalent of Dancing with the Stars,
And there was one season a few years ago where
one of the contestants was deaf, and for the most part,
for almost every dance they played music for it, and
(36:21):
she could hear it. I think she either had a
cochlear implant or she could feel like the rhythm of
the base of the music. But for one of the
numbers they faded out the music so that for like
a full minute of the dance. Whoa, they're dancing in silence.
And it was really so beautiful. Wow, I have boosebumps now. No,
(36:44):
it was complete silence.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Wow, that is so cool.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It was really lovely. So I liked that moment a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, me too. It's always powerful to in some way
when movies can show you somebody else's experience in some way,
it's like, I think that's a powerful use of the
medium that we yeah, so much trouble with. That's exactly right, Yeah,
badge for ASL. I just love ASL. It is so
(37:11):
compelling language. It's just animated and visual and so much depth,
and I really I really enjoyed a lot of the
speeches they had.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's the end of my badges. Oh sorry too, Okay,
I feel so problematic, not like, but then I think
it would be problematic to like it just for the
sake of liking it because it represents an underrepresented community.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I think you're right that there were two movies happening.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, and one of them.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Is the worst thing to kid could ever watch. Yeah,
that's true. Badge for And I'm sorry. I know my
mom really likes it, but I think it's because you
haven't experienced the trauma of really annoying singer kids. Mom.
Badge for these parents can't stop banging.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I think that's awesome. No badge for love this Dad.
I also love Marley Mattlin. I think the first scene
that's just like her and her daughter, even though she
was being like a bad mom. I was just so
struck by how compelling that scene was compared to everything
else i'd seen.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Oh can I give one more badge? A badge for
the scene after the concert where her dad asks her
to sing the song for him on the truck. Yeah,
and he like feels it through her. That was really sweet.
That was really great.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
That was really really sweet. Oh yeah, just okay. I'd
say if I was going to give a critique of
this movie in just a few words, it would be
that this was like six Oscar Worthy scenes after seventy
minutes of Glee, and so those final oscar Worthy scenes
were really good and compelling. It just felt like, oh, okay,
(38:54):
here's all the Oscar stuff, because before that it was
just like a girl singing with a boy. Yeah, but
I think those scenes were really good, and like when
it was just her alone talking to her parents, those
scenes are super compelling. I just loved the speeches that
her parents gave, and I thought it was sweet when
she started signing during her singing. I'm just really critical
(39:17):
of the fact that they didn't get somebody who's been
doing it since birth, but because I'm like, I think
that would have made it even more powerful. But that
again is me being a nitpicker or an idealistic and
idealistic viewer. But I thought that was really pretty and Okay, yeah,
I started crying. Okay, all right, they got me, Okay,
all right, they got right badge for I love that
(39:37):
they started the successful business yeah, a movie where they
they succeed in they left the price gougey Yeah, and
they started the business go off. And finally I did
actually love when mister V messes up the piano so
she has to start again because she's doing so bad
that he's.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like, oops, my bad.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Mm hmmm. Anyway, love that trages. I literally went when
he did that, I literally said out loud, genius.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
My first trage is for dead fish. Yeah, there were
a dead fish in this.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
A lot of them, and they were smashing them around
with their feet, and I was.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like, is there a teen stomping on my fish? When
I eat a fish? Has it been stomped on by
a teen? A Massachusetts teen who doesn't want to be
doing this?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's possible. Trage for my very first tradge that I
wrote down, probably very early on, is the singing part
is cringe for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
A trage for class ending in the middle of a
lecture that never ever happens in real life and in
every film the teacher is like and then in nineteen
thirty nine Germany decided to and the bell rings and
the like, well, I guess that's it for TA. I'm like, no,
you finished the lecture. You spend like ten minutes talking
(41:05):
about the homework. Yeah, around papers?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Kind of awkward?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, what what? I hate that in films?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Trasge for again. I wrote this in probably the first
twenty minutes. I wrote, not quite as a complex as
I expected.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Hmm, interesting, interesting, interesting that you want deaf people to
have complex lives.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
No, it's because it's an Oscar Worthy movie. It's the
movie because so much Oscar buzz I could not believe
it was about a singing teen. But again, as the
movie went on, I think that that critique would then
be turned into there are two stories going on, because
they didn't bring up the workers' rights part very deeply
until the second half, which was a very true. That
(41:54):
was a compelling, very compelling film.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Uh. Trage for not being allowed to sit down when
the choir teacher comes in is like, nope, stand up everyone.
Oh my gosh. I became exhausted at the memory of
having to stand up out of my chair during the
singing sessions. The singing is horrible for the school musical horrible.
Let me sit down, Trag'm not a born singer. I
(42:18):
want to sit.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I was born to sit, not to sing. Trage for
that scene where everybody knows more than you about something
and you realize it when you get to the room, terrifying.
That was all of college for the audition. I didn't
know about this m college when I got to an
arts program and everybody was talking about artists and I
was like, Okay, no, I'm taking this class because I've
never heard of one. I don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I know like Vincent van Goh, and that should be allowed.
It's so annoying when people already know things. It's terrible
trage for outside clothes on the bed. When she and
her friend are over at her house, they're both lying
on her bed with not even the duvet, the comforter
up on the sheets, in their outside clothes.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
And they were probably fishing.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, oh fishy bed.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Trag for. Again, that doesn't bother me that much, but
I get it trag for. Is there some scenes with
her speech where it really did not feel like she
grew up doing asl And I was like, oh, that's
such a missed opportunity in my opinion, But.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Uh, trage for. I really don't get high school bullying
as depicted in movies. Okay, I don't know if I
don't remember high school fish girl, but.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
What slop flop fish girl? What oh smells like fish
fish girl?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I just don't your parents are deaf, eh, I don't
think that is happening.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
She seemed to be the in the world getting bullied.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Also, yeah, odd, odd, Yeah, I have another odd depiction
of high school.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like oh yeah, mean girls are gonna be like, oh,
you're a fishy fish girl, like we hate you. I guess, yeah,
I really don't get it. My final trage is my
first trag, which was, Okay, this is this movie is
a little cringe. And every time I wrote that thing down,
it was when they were having a singing scene. So
I think, yep, yep, I think we get it.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yep. A trage for this. This will be my last trage.
A trage for why doesn't anyone ever explain what's going
on or try to reschedule when they can't make something. Yeah,
the scene where the news showed up and she couldn't
go to music practice because she then had to interpret
(44:30):
for her parents for the news. I was like, this
would have been on their calendar. She could easily just
text her music tutor and say, hey, I'm really sorry,
this is what's going on. Could we maybe move these
sessions to a later time, given that I'm always late
to them, could we maybe move these to a half
(44:50):
hour later because I'm consistently arriving at five twenty, So
if we started at five point thirty, we could avoid
this problem. And instead she's like, I have a lot
going on, Like just say, the news showed up and
it was a really huge thing.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Just explain what family going on? Family thing.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't like that. It's like how you feel about
when people don't answer questions in movies they just walk away.
That's how I feel when people when there's some sort
of like misunderstanding, yes, unavoidable misunderstanding. Hate that.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Well, Yahn show onto our next segment, which is, of course,
how to pretend you've seen this film. This is for Yes,
you are standing by the water, just trying to look
at the nice the nice looking at the lake of
a Massachusetts lake, and Miles Miles, Miles on.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
A boat full of shoes, the tallest, palest, skinniest boy
in school.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
He says, I was just coming to dump all these
shoes in the water because I'm done with them. You say,
don't do that. So many about things happening in the class,
so many about things to our environment, He says, Hey,
you know.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Sitting on that rock singing Happy Birthday to yourself really
reminded me of a film.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Of a film I saw I liked all the crassness.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Shout at you crassley about it at a time.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, you've never even heard of it. It was Oscar buzz,
but most girls haven't seen it. And uh. In order
to in.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Order smiles out of the conversation and rescue the lake
from shoetom, here are.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
A few things you can say to pretend you've seen
the film Coda.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Miles, I've seen the film Coda, or as I like
to call it, cod.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Cod uh a cod cod ah. I'm sorry, this is
what I hate Hollywood. Yes, Miles, I have seen Coda.
Two fun facts are the onset interpreters. We're all Coda's
that children of deff adults, which makes sense. I think
(46:53):
that's really common for interpreters. And then also the other
fact is that Amelia Jones spent nine months learning American
sign language, having singing lessons, and learning how to operate
a fishing trawler.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Okay, wow, so they just got like a pretty British girl.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Why not get someone who went any other parts the
four things that are part of this fishing sign language,
singing and being American. She didn't know any of them.
Why is it that we do things this way?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Interesting. She did a good job acting wise, but that
is interesting.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I get why she's just good. I didn't think she
was bad. I just just is this how we really
go about it?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, Miles, I've seen Coda, and I'm going to tell
you now what the teacher told her Ruby in the
film during a moment of being frustrated. I have a
whole life that has nothing to do with you, and
I need to get back to it, Miles, so please
paddle away. Wow.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
This sucks, Yes, it sucks, but then it's good and
also makes it clear maybe why this was such an
impactful film at the time.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
And I'm being.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Nippicky, but uh, yes, Miles, I have seen Coda. When
it became clear to the financiers that Sean Hayter intended
to cast real deaf actors for all the deaf characters,
the financiers threatened to withdraw their funding. What I guess,
because they thought it wasn't gonna have enough pull like
(48:23):
they wanted more.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
That's so wild. That is wow.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
So sorry Sean for being so rude, because I know
that you did you you cared.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
But then Marley Mattlin then said that she would pull
out if that turned out to be the case and
they reverse their decision, So way to go, Marley.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
She has so much power work.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
But like, what the hell? That is insane?
Speaker 2 (48:45):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
That would be horrible. Imagine if it was like, I
don't know, Ben Affleck playing.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
The dad, Oh god, and it would have been Ben
Affleck as well.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
That would have been so so's Boston way less impactful
and offensive. That a they didn't cast anybody in b
They thought that any that any actor could be just
as good as somebody who actually speaks asl.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Hmmm, true, Miles, stop it. I've seen coda and you're
being as dumb right now as when the dad says,
in response to the mom saying our baby is moving away,
the dad says she was never a baby, which, when
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you think about it for one second at all, is
biologically false.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
She never was a baby due.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
To the fact that at one point she was in
fact literally a baby. Now put the shoe down and
get out of the lake. I love that. I think
I was never a baby. That would have been inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
It is really funny imagining you as a baby.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
That is hilarious, Like what was I doing pissing myself.
I don't think so. I think I was just kind
of keeping it all together and being reserved.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yes, Myles, I have seen the film Coda. Troy Kotzer,
the dad in this, was the first deaf male actor
to win an OSCAR for this movie. I think he
won Best Supporting Actor, which he totally deserved. And then
Marley Mattlin, who was the mom in this movie, was
the first deaf female actress to win an OSCAR for
(50:38):
Children of a Lesser God, which is I think what?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Oh yeah, in the nineties, Sleigh Sleigh, Sianna, should we
jump off the cliff into our next segment?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
This is, of course, is yes, should you watch this
or or boat, in which we tell you if we
think you should watch the movie or if you should
do something else with your time?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Leanna, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
I think, Yes, you can watch Coda. I think it's
important to see stories totally about people with disabilities. A
because like giving them an additional view is important industry wise,
not that they get enough royalties because it's on a
streaming platform, but B because it's just interesting, like it
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moddens the horizons totally. It was also an interesting way
to watch a movie, like, I watched it differently than
I would have watched a movie without as many subtitles,
because I literally had to watch. Yeah, that's so often
I often am not I'm often looking away or distracted,
and so it's certainly a worthwhile watch. But you if
(51:46):
you are a former performer from high school, you will
absolutely a lot of moments that you totally take for yourself.
What would you say, Sienna.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
I feel exactly the same. I think it's actually totally
worth a watch, even though we were critical. It's uh,
I've also been lucky to see probably it like if
you've never seen any content with any deaf actors, or
seen a lot of deaf content on TV or anything.
I mean, I think it's totally worth watching that getting
(52:17):
into it. Yeah, there's a lot that I really liked
about the movie. I think it's totally worth a watch.
And as long as you're bracing yourself. The only reason
we were so weird a out is because we were
completely blindsided by the fact that it was a Glee movie.
So just know that there'll be some cringey whatever stuff.
And if you weren't a drama kid, I don't think
it'll bother you as much.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I don't think it survived. I think you'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
But besides that, it's very sweet and I really love
the actors in it, and it makes me want to
watch Marley Mattlin and more stuff. It makes me want
to watch Troy Kotzer and more so. Anyway, and uh,
you know it's a movie about uh about workers' rights
as well, and they win the side school. So yeah, Leona,
what would you rate this movie? It's an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Give Coda four stomped fish out of five. For just
the plot line itself, I would give it like a
two and a half.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, I think this is a good way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
What the plot was so weird for like, for what
it did as a movie and for Hollywood. Yeah, I
think it did so true todle forward in an important,
like societal way. That's so true. And I think a
lot of the performances were very good, and the ending
was actually really good. It was just like the first
part that was so annoyally weird, and that audition scene
(53:30):
was a complete work of fiction. It life And she
would never get into the Berkeley School of me totally,
not with that behavior. Totally Sienna, how about you.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, I would give Coda. I'm going to give this
film three point five full ponytails out of five, which,
by the way, she oh yeah wow, her hair was amazing.
But uh yeah, I completely agree the ways that it
was awesome. It was really awesome. All the main actors
were great. Even though I had some gripes about wishing that,
(54:00):
you know, she was actually a Coda, she was very
good for this role. And the brother and the the
parents were just so awesome. There was so much that
I enjoyed about. It was very sweet and as long
as you know it's.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Cringe, nor is the worst thing. I'm free exactly being
cringe is not the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
And super sweet. Yeah, and now I've seen Coda.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
That was our review of it. Thank you everyone. We
are Tossed Popcorn as always. You can find us on
Instagram at toss Popcorn. If you want to hear us
talk about the Opposite of Coda aka nos Feratu, you
can subscribe to our Patreon to see a video episode
about that film, and please join us next week when
(54:51):
we will be watching Is it Time, It is Time,
It's Time, It's the World's.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
About and it's time for us to watch promising young woman.
Whoo yeah, whooooooooo woo.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Thank you, We love you. Bye.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
You can find us on Instagram as at Sienna Jaco
and at Leanna Holsten. Please check the description for the
spelling of our dumb names. We put out episodes every Tuesday,
so make sure to subscribe so that you don't miss
an episode. See you next week on Tossed Popcorn. For
more podcasts from my Heart Radio, check the iHeartRadio app Leani.
You said, why does she have a Cthulhu stuffed animal?
(55:44):
Did she see this?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
I guess cause she's the corner of room is like
a Cthulhu ass squid. And then at the end of
the movie, when she's moving to college thirty minutes away,
uh huh, he brings out Cuthulhu and hands her to
her is distracting. It's distracting to put Kuthulhu in the
corner of a film.
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