July 29, 2025 • 57 mins
Let us escort you through an episode full of data-driven dates, melancholy memories, and Sci-Fi vibes but for the girls. The person most confused by the film this week was: Tom, about the human world/how not to be annoying.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio, Gunda.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Tag, I'm Leanna Holsten and I'm Sienna Jacob and veilkammin
to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every
film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of
All Time, the very slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary edition,
and are now watching films directed by women.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
This podcast is a safe museum for people who don't
know anything about movies. Today we're watching I'm Your Man
or do you know how to say it in German.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ich bindne mensch, i bindne bench cox.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how you're about this movie,
but love it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Uh a German film warning. Yeah, there will be spoilers
about this.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Robotic German film. Yeah, it is too German. It was
very German. I don't know why I know about this movie.
I think I saw a trailer for it once and said, yeah,
(01:40):
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I looked up the actress afterward, and every single movie
she's in looks appealing to me, So thank you, Oh
my god, I just the vibes.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, So maybe I'll get really into these German films.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, hell yeah, hell yeah, okay, Well I guess should
we start with prediction adiction?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I had a vague sense about this. Yeah, okay, Sienna,
here's my prediction for ipin Diamond Diamone. Good morning, Sienna,
it's Leanna. I'm about to watch I'm Your Man. I
vaguely know that this is about like a rough custom
built Oh okay, who is Dan Steven?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Huh? Maybe you're a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I predicted it's gonna be sweet and oh unfortunately might
make me cause me to feel emotions love you bye. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We'll be interested to hear if that was the case.
Now would you like to hear my prediction?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'd love to please.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I haven't reviewed it, okay, all right, right, yeah, hi Leanna,
this is I'm about to watch I'm Your Man.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh yeah, Oh looks.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like one of the women in this is the woman
from that movie about the Fall?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is that true? It's German, so that would make sense.
I think it's gonna be German this year.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But I random watched on a plane Anatomy of a Fall.
My prediction is that there's going to be like primary colors,
and maybe it's about finding no, A wonderful man boyfriend
part of but there's some sci fi element, Okay, because
(03:31):
he was repeated a lot on the picture. I don't know,
you know what, I don't know what this is going
to be about. I'm sorry for saying anything.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I I thought it might be like saying anything in
the segment where I have to say something, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's I guess I assume that there'd be some sorts
of iterations of this man, I'm a poster. He's like
repeated a bunch, but m they got they got across
the fact that it was sci fi. So I didn't
know he was a robot until it started.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, again, I don't. I don't. I guess
it's it's my thing of I'll see a trailer for
a film and say, oh, I'd like to see that,
and then never watch it. Yeah, So in the back
in the back of my head there's a rolodex of
movie trailers for films. I think I'd enjoy.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And I never bothered to see great news for us,
I hope so, and this was one of them.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Great wreck. Well, Leanna, before we start talking about the podcast,
Oh my gosh, talking about the movie Hey Girls. Today
we're going to do an analysis of Toss Poscorn Hey girl,
Hey girl, and hello listeners. This is our last episode
for a little bit because I in fifteen hours am
(04:48):
going up to Edinburgh, Scotland. Really that's one month. Yeah,
it's the last episode for a little bit, like a
month and a half or something.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Maybe we're not stopping for back in September. September sounded
kind of like we were stopping it completely based on Well, everyone,
I watched the last film I'll ever see. I have
been speaking about it like I'll die up there. I'm
not ruling it out. We'll come back, yack, whenever I
get back. Well, you'll listen, you'll Yes, we'll be back
(05:20):
in September. We'll see you in September after this episode,
which we're seeing you for right now.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Excellent. Perfect, So you are I was gonna ask you're
hot and packing mode, but you're probably like packed? Now?
How are you as a packer?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Have you met me? Yes? The way that I pack
is the opposite of the way that I get to
the airport. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, it does. It does because I would have assumed
that you when you were getting rid of your furniture.
I remember being like, wow, she's doing this exactly the
perfect time before moving out.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I assumed I'm a good mover. I'm not a
good packer. I will probably start at eight thirty or
nine tonight. Okay, pack a suitcase for one month.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The thing is I only have so many things.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I know how long can it take to put some
of those things into a bag?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And when you're pretty aware of what you need at
this time, at this life stage, I'm like, it's always
the same stuff. There's a few essential toiletries, but beyond that,
what's your living situation up there?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Again? I will be in student accommodation. Oh, four bedroom,
student like dorm basically with a shared kitchen in student
halls in Edinburgh with three pals. So cool. It's going
to be a twin bed for a month, totally and
you know us we're not small women. Yeah, oh I know,
(06:51):
but I don't have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
At least you have it. At least it's just you
in there, always is I guess I when I picture Edinburgh,
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I guess when I picture Edinburgh,
I picture literally people are like there's like somebody on
it in every corner and you're like sharing a bed
with your like yes, uh show partner, and you're like
(07:16):
totally stacked on.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And that is what it was when I worked there.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, I guess that's maybe what it was there, because
that's when you literally what it was fewer rights.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I had no rights. I was an intern. Yeah, of course,
but now I have some rights. It will get my
little twin bed, which is that I get to have
my own twin bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Wow. Well, I'm so excited to see updates and everything.
Thank you Insteagram.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's gonna be great. If anybody would care to follow along,
you can follow at Leona Holsten on Instagram. I'll be
regrettably incessantly posting about the shows and the experience, and uh,
I'll aim to keep it fun and fresh and flirting.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I That's that's my promise to you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hey girl girl. I'm in sort of a similar state
of about to be heading to uh somewhat long term
shows because I'm going for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Weeks. Some posts about perhaps sub letting a room or
perhaps yes.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So I'll be leaving for a couple of weeks and uh,
it's a similar thing of I do not have nearly
as many shows, but I'm like feeling the nerves of
I'm excited to go do puppets at these music festivals.
But it's going to be really different from what we've
done before. It's like much more professional, which is exciting
because like we'll have like actual tents and stuff set
(08:45):
up for us, Yeah, to go change out of puppets
and stuff. But there are just things where there's no
way of knowing how unruly a puppet's going to be
until you get there and start doing it, and like.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You make them sound like they have minds of their own.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's just like you can try to think through as
much as you It's basically an engineering problem in that,
like the kick test, you can only test it so
much before like taking it to people. For example, we'll
make puppets and then we'll go in front of kids
and kids will try to like rip stuff off of them,
and we're like, oh, I didn't realize this would happen,
you know what I mean. So it's like, since this
(09:21):
is something we're really actually getting paid for and it's
a legitimate.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Establishment, do you think the grateful dead is going to
try to rip stuff off your puppet.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, I'm so scared of them. Did you know John
Mayer is grateful dead?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Now, I don't think that's right. No, I have to
look it up. No, I don't believe that. Even if
that's true, I don't believe it. I'm sure you're right.
I don't believe you. Yeah, he doesn't need to be
I don't feel grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's so funny. Okay, Yeah, I'm so afraid that John
Mayer is going to try to rip stuff off of
my puppet. I'm so scared of him.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Wouldn't be the first time.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, anyway, So it's the sort of like nerves of
I just made this big Bison and I'm afraid it's
gonna I'm afraid it's gonna fall apart. But it's also
exciting and I'm very grateful to like get to go,
uh you know, do a job like this. But we're
(10:24):
definitely also in crunch time. Like we're leaving in like
three days and then I'm going straight to Chicago afterward. Ah,
my friend's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The city of Love. That's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's not true. There's no love there the city of
windy City is yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I talked to a.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Very contrary Chicago person a couple months ago and I
was like, the windy city, of course, and she was like, well, actually,
it's not because it's windy, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Because of the yeah, the politicians. I was like, I know,
you don't need to say that, but also I've been
there and it was windy. Why are they trying to
say it's not windy at all? It has to be
a little windy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It was really windy when I was in Chicago, So
shut up. Are you performing in Chicago or just friend time?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Just friend time?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You should get what Giordano's Deep Dish pizza. Oh, it
was really good in twenty thirteen. Okay, I cannot speak
to the quality of it. Now I'll go and I'll
tell you you know what. You also should get what.
I think it's called Andy's and it's frozen custard.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I love frozen custard.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, they had it in Evanston. I don't know if
it'll be in Chicago, but it was when I went
to Theater Camp the place to be. Okay, it was
so delicious and they'll do crazy mixins again in twenty thirteen.
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm typing that out, I'm running it down.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, I guess we should talk about the movie, Sienna,
I really want to talk to you about this movie.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you please give us a synopsis so that the
listener has even a modicum of context. Yes, of the
film I'm Your Man or ichbin dyn mens spin Dynemnsch.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Due to being the only single person in her community apparently,
and with the promise of receiving research funding in return,
Alma is tasked with beta testing a robot dating service
in which the.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Perfect man is created for her and she has to
live with him for three weeks. She then meets Tom,
a robot with a British accent, though this whole movie
is in German, so speaking German with a British accent.
They talk about it and she struggles to be nice
to him for that three week period, especially because she
(12:55):
is a scientist who studies the past.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
For a living.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And she's all into that human stuff like art and poetry,
so she, of all people, has a problem with this robot.
But Tom ends up growing on need I say more?
The end?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yay rock and roll?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Rock and roll, So it's that kind of light sci
fi thing. Yeah, and a lot of talk about what
it means to be human and everything. But it was
all that stuff from the perspective of a woman, and
boy did not make it more appealing than the other
sci fi I have seed wow thing when a woman
directs the sci fi film is no, one goes to
space and it's never raining, and you're not in some
(13:45):
weird neon city and there's no there's.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No like sexy sexy lady in skin type.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, why do they always do that?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
There's always sexy lady in skin tight uniform? Oh, this
was busy German woman.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Archaeologist, Yes, busy woman.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
What is her job title? I couldn't figure out when
I was looking at and.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
They said scientist a lot of times while I was
looking it up. But I wonder if that was like
a direct translation or something, because archaeologist or like an
anthropologist sounds right.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That feels right, yeah, because she.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was studying like I forget what they were called, but
something like hieroglyphic uniform tablet uniform tablet.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yes, wow, nice memory. I just came to thank you.
I feel grateful.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I loved this. You're so right. The busy woman. The
busy woman.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
A woman. This woman is busy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
He'll excuse me. A man just tried to tell me
what to do with the seat of my car, so
I need to go crash it in retaliation. We'll be
right back. Yeah. I really enjoyed this.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay, my god. Well let's dive into our phone notes
section of the podcast, where we read the notes that
the other person took on their phone while watching the film.
But can I ask you a big question overall before
we dive into specifics. Yeah, if you could get a
robot who was custom built to be your dream partner,
would you would ja?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Would you? Well, it's easy to say no to that
because you're like, no, robots are oh, I mean like
from a humanitarian, from a humanities perspective. Sure, from a
humanities perspective. I feel like we're supposed to be like robots.
(15:45):
Hell no, you know, like there's no humanity. But every
time I've ever watched a robot movie, it's like they
do act pretty human. I think even if I talked
to chat GPT for a while, I'd be like, man,
you're pretty funny anyway. Yeah, that'd be fine with me. Wow, Really,
I'm not so sure. The thing is the thing that
(16:06):
was tough was his whole thing of not having any need.
It's like, yeah, the idea of a relationship where one
partner has no needs is like, hmm, I don't. It's
it's hard to actually fathom because that's so much of
like what hanging out with the person is is You're like,
I'm hungry, I have to pee, I feel sick today,
(16:27):
you know, like that's what hanging out with humans is.
Like sounds amazing, Yeah, but I do think though they
kind of talk about like that he doesn't have needs,
but it's like, but he does, like he he wants
to be helpful, he wants to be like a good partner,
he wants you know, like he does have things he's
supposed to achieve. So in that way, I think he
does have more, yeah, needs than we want to say anyway,
(16:51):
But there have certainly been many times that I'm highly dissatisfied.
I really enjoy my relationship now, but in every other
relationship that I've been in, I'm like, boy, I wish
we could fix this thing, this thing, this thing, this thing,
this thing, this thing, this thing, this thing, and then
it'd be happy. So like yes, it would be It
(17:11):
would be nice, I think yeah. Because also they're listening.
It's like they design a man who like listens and
wants to be better. So it's like in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh my god, wow, yeah, oh my god. It's sort
of just like thing of wanting to be better is yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
An empathetic adult man is kind of what they're designing.
What about you, Leanna?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know, I I have mixed feelings about it. I think,
you know, given the nothing that's been going on, something
would be cool. But I also have a feeling that
I would feel like it was cheating, right. It's like
I didn't I didn't earn this in the through the
(17:58):
traditional avenues of horrific online dating and suffering, right, And
I got really spooked when she was doing her monologue
the morning after they slept together, where she was like,
I'm just in here talking to myself. That was crazy,
But that to me was like.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I loved the way that this movie kind of studied
what it means to be like connected to somebody and
what what it means to be human and exist. Because sorry,
but you could say that about anybody you're talking to,
Like in this whole world. I know that you're it's different,
like a connecting of minds and everything, and it's the soul.
(18:40):
It's like the unnameable soul of.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It all.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That you're really really feeling like is missing when you're
talking to this robot, I guess. But it's like you're
kind of talking to yourself all the time with everybody,
because whoa, what does it mean to actually exist and
to be conscious and blah blah blah blah blah. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Wow. Yeah, and if anything, this robot is actively listening
way more than most people you talk to.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point. Yeah, I think
it could really work for women.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't think. I don't see this not happening at
some point down the line. It's like, but I think
men will use it first, and they will just exact
sex robot.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's why it's no good. Yeah, because a woman who
doesn't have I think it'd be like this is a
real generalization, and I'm aware of that, but I'm gonna
say it because that's what we do here.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
My generalization.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think that uh, the heterosexual the women would be
more likely to they'd use it to try to get
the emotional connection that they desire instead of like doing
it to so that you don't have to have the
emotional connection. It's like, I want to have this with somebody,
(19:59):
but most of the men that I've interacted with have
been socialized in such a way that that's very difficult
to get from them, and I feel like I'm always
missing it. And I was cursed with being heterosexual, even
though it would probably be something I could get with
a woman.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, the plate
I do, I understand.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Okay, it's.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Now okay. Your first note is is he a robot?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He glitched out when she was asking him math and stuff.
I was like, uh huh, but I didn't know what
was going on for a while and it was kind
of fun.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh that is interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And Leonna, your first note is ech bean dine mench.
Do your parents ever speak German since they.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
They did when we were little if they were talking
about something that they didn't want us to know what
they were talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Do they both speak it fluently?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Uh? No, they were conversational in it when they lived
in your many because they were there for three years
and then for maybe a few years after moving to
back to the States, and then it did kind of
come back when I went to Germany with them after
high school. They had a conversation with someone in German
and I was like, Okay, I guess I'll fuck off. No,
(21:18):
I'm kidding. It was very cool.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, this is yeah, this is the plight of the
foreign film Leanna. You said, I keep forgetting I have
to look at the screen to understand what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
There were I'd be, oh my gosh, I'd be watching
it and then I'd get up to go get something,
and then I'd suddenly be like, oh wait, What's what's happening?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That happened to me too. I'd be like, oh, I'm
gonna look that up, or like who's that actor or something?
And then all of a sudden, no idea, someone's yelling
or something. I'm like, what what happened?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Huh? Yeah? You said, is his algorithm? If his algorithm
is designed to make her happy, why does he not
know anything about how not to be annoying?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That was the thing that they missed when designing him
was he has no even receptors for going, am I
being annoying?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah? Which he doesn't have, like insecurity or anxiety I
guess that you can't program that into a robot, right right,
self doubt or self consciousness. Yeah, he was, but also
he was being a man.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Very annoying. He's being very annoying when he first.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Said that when he corrected her driving, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
He corrected her driving, and then he like reorganized all
of her stuff without asking and stuff, and it's like
you could ask, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If my apartment, if I woke up and my apartment
had been deep cleaned and reorganized, I think I would
love that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, definitely, Definitely he was doing lovely things, but it
was a lot. She already she's expressed that she has
no interest in this. Yeah, you know, but he was
given no no programming to tell him. You know, I
think it's slow. And also she wouldn't say it to him.
(23:09):
Communication is key. How about later when they were saying
tutelou and stuff, when she was like, don't say tutelou
to me, Oh, don't say whatever, and they were all
German phrases like don't say in een being bonk to me,
don't see say Einschler.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Apologies as always to Germany.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And apologies to Germany.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Ah, yeah, I was I was struck by how like
kind of rude she was to him?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
She was very mean, Yeah, borderline abusive. At a certain point.
I was like, girl, I was like, he made you
a stack of pancakes.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That looks delicious. Yeah, why wouldn't you be like, oh,
that's so nice. I just feel like you'd be like, oh,
I'm really sorry, I can't stay. Thank you for doing that.
That's actually something I'm interested in.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, she refused to do and that's where she had
flaws too, that's true. Or when she was like, I
command you to have sex with me, I was like,
I was like.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Here we go sex robots. We all knew what was coming.
We all knew it was coming, which he didn't. It's yeah,
that was I was like, oh my god, this robot
understands the concept of consent much more than a human man.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I also like that it is natural that she at
some point would do something like that or be like, well,
if you're a robot, then I command you. You know.
He's like, no, yeah, Leoni, you said I'd have called
this man you weird bitch so many times by now.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, Yeah, so I did say if I woke up
in my flat had been deep cleaned and rearranged. I'd
like it, but also I would be like, your weird bitch,
because pancar weird bitch, your weird bitch. Yeah, as like
a term of endearment. Yeah, but you are being weird.
You are being weird and a little bit of a bitch.
It's been weird and kind of a bitch. Cianna, you said,
(25:12):
this movie asks the sexy question what if a humanity's
professional and an AI had sex. They did it in
a way that surprised me.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, when they finally boned. Yeah, do you mean.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I didn't really know you could do it? And facing
that directly, I was surprised as well.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I too was surprised by that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, thank god.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And I appreciate when sex and a movie will just
be like a specific position that like someone likes, because
it's like, yeah, there are so many sort of different
angles that you can use, Like we see a lot
of the same stuff on TV. But I'm like, I
don't even know their legs were.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like down are apart? Yeah, they seemed pretty far apart.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I don't know if anyone's leg was lifted and they
were front to front somehow it was going in and
then she had a gentle but complete orgasm. Yeah, which
is great. But I was like, wow, whatever's going on
there would never work on me.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I was like, I didn't think they'd started.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Maybe when you were finished.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We didn't see what the shape of everything.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Was, but maybe we sure didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Maybe it was designed to fit.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, super duper.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Long, curly curly goes all the way around the ducks. Yeah. Yeah.
But like I like when they have different you know,
not just the same old, same ole that you see
on movies, because it's like, sure, that's what works for her,
a very specific angle she knows.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And he does too.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, wait, sorry, Leoni, you also said, uh, what's the
deal with your cock?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I gasped, Oh my god. It was so so abrupt.
I mean, she was drunk, but I was like, very
not appropriate. You can't just say that to someone.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I think I have a gene where I get really
bad hangovers because I cannot imagine anybody over the age
of twenty nine getting blasted drunk. I'm like, I, how
you're going to wake up dead dead? You will be
in such there'll be awake, but you'll be dead. Yeah.
(27:40):
I don't understand how people do these things. You.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, And on the note about the cock, you noted, Okay,
so he only gets a boner if he kisses, but
he always gets a boner when he kisses.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That was surprising to me. I was like, ooh, and
maybe it's like, hey, the amount of time they kiss for,
but like, what if they kiss in public?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I know, a little kiss goodbye? Oh, swinging shwing swing.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I'm like, I do feel like that seems like designed
by a man to me, because I don't like that.
I would never want to go in that fast.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's not I don't want the boy going one one
little peck, one peen, We're off to the races. Yeah,
it's like a button on his mouth triggers it. That
is wild.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Leanna, you said this guy is such a mood. Oh,
and it seems to be after he was communing with deer.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I loved that he just went and stood and communed
with deer.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I have a note on that about you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh, that's what this is. Because you wrote Leanna's in
Bretzki's literal dream.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I know they were Deer and not Elk, but still
being in Germany, heared of Elk I don't want to
be in a pod of elk, being in Germany surrounded
by a pod of deer deer, that would be nice.
It just it just it reminds me of a dream
way to do that, even if it's it reminds me. Well.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
My recurring nightmare as a child was that an elk
was in my home and speaking the King's English to me.
But my there's in Munich. There's this place called the
Hirsch Garden, which is a beer garden that's outdoors, and
it's right next to a literal deer park. So you
can be sitting at your bench having your your stein
and your pretzel, your bret wow, and there's deer or
(29:41):
heirsh right next to you. Wow. Gosh.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I gotta go somewhere else besides here some point at
that point the world seems magical. Other places.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh my god, Sianna, thank you. I felt the same
way you wrote. If it's a sonogram, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, please, I Loo Please.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is where I was like, are you kidding this again?
But then I was like, am I being disrespectful? This
actually is the experience for a lot of people who
can or cannot but have child, birthing for organs, Oh
my god, reproductive organs.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Jesus, Yes, I understand this is the real thing. And
I also feel the same way where I'm like, this
is just a pain I haven't yet experienced in my life,
and perhaps someday i'll understand more, like when people around
me are doing more fertility stuff, and I understand it is.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Like the foundational motivation of a character.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, it's like how in I get how in movies
you have to have something a little more solid to
explain why somebody is not content or why they have pain.
But it's like, yeah, you can just have pain from
your whole life. It doesn't have to be from something
as concrete as and as societal as you can't have children,
(31:04):
or like you were going to have a child but
it didn't work out. But I feel the same way
where obviously that's for people who have experienced that that
might feel really like cathartic to see or impactful to see,
but it's just it's just it's done so much. I
kind of just like I appreciate when movies just let
something be, Like I just have sadness because I'm a
(31:26):
human and things haven't worked out and I'm lonely, you know,
versus like, yeah, I just couldn't Yeah exactly, I yeah,
I couldn't. Have A child would have solved everything. I'd
be happy if I had a child, you know, like
that's kind of what it says, like that doesn't really
feel honest.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, it's okay to hate your ex boyfriend and that's
moving in with someone else in that she's having a
baby just because of all that.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Just regular style because you didn't want one.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Or house style, you know, home fries.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, Hanna, you said, I smell like nothing to them.
Me to the boys, I smell like nothing to them.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's like, they literally don't see me or notice I exist.
And I was like, mm hmm, yeah, that's right. I
saw a man look through me on the subway the
other day. What I said, are you kidding? It can't
be that bad.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Maybe we need to find a strong musk. I wonder
if that man would have responded to a strong musk.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You've got to build up my musk. Yeah, I'm working
on my musk. Uh huh. I'd like to change my musk.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Leanna. You said, when I was fourteen, I went to
a party. Okay, brag nothing makes me feel Oh, okay,
you said, and then I knew that God didn't exist.
Okay German, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
But what were you gonna say? That makes me feel?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Nothing makes me stop relating to a person quicker than
finding out that they had any sort of normalness, normality
and popularity in middle school.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Same yeah, or anytime.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
We've talked about this before when someone's like, no, I
mean yeah, my first boyfriend or girlfriend was at this stage.
I mean I had one when I was like fourteen,
but like that doesn't count, and I'm like, uh, huh,
yes it does.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It really does. Actually it does. Not chosen to list
it it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Maybe it didn't have to do with like actual relationships.
What matters is who you were and who you think
of yourself in life, what your brain told you you were,
you deserved, you knew the wisdom you had. How dare
you try being a nerd?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Dare you?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And I love that, I loved that I was that.
I that I've had a nerdy existence in middle school
and onward. But uh, but it's just like we're not
the same. No, we're not the same.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I have that with people who are like, no, I
don't really go to the gym. I just look like this.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, that's crazy because I go to the gym so much.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Leanna, you said, okay, Queen, that's probably enough time with
the egg. After she has a romantic evening with Tom.
The next day, she is cooling off a boiled egg
in the sink and the water is We're watching the
(34:50):
water spill down on it from the faucet, and that
is what Leanna is talking about. Do you think that
was supposed to be like symbolic.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I I was annoyed by that point and thought maybe,
But I think more it was just her spinning out
about like why am I trying to as she says,
like I tried to make you the perfect hard boiled
egg even though you won't give a shit. Yeah, because
you're a robot. Yeah, you literally can't care.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
He said, there's something about me people run from me.
Same and that is in response to a man, an old,
old fish man who they choose to put with a
robotic pretty lady to be like, I'm the ugliest man
(35:42):
in the world. Everyone's hated me ever since I was born,
and now I finally have a robot girl.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah. See that was during his monolog I was like, no,
I do see why people get these see, I know
your final note is WHOA, what do you think of
that speech she gave dot? I'm confused smile.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Maybe it's the German of it all, but the thing
of I get what she's saying. But she was basically like,
we shouldn't have them because people don't deserve them. Unless
I definitely get what she means, but it was giving
a little eugenics question mark.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
She was making the point of, like, if we do
the robots, we will become eugenic eugenesis.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Oh yeah, okay, But.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I think the point I really appreciated her making in
the her like notes on the study was or her
feedback or whatever she calls it, was how will will grow?
Like I can't remember the adjectives she used, but basically
(37:07):
like groggy and over saturated with like satisfaction and always
having our needs met. WHOA, that's interesting ignores like the
very nature of a relationship between two humans, which is
what you were saying earlier, Like humans have needs. Yeah,
and you have to like compromise between two rather than
(37:28):
it just being one person and the other is there
simply to meet their needs?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
So I did like that point, but really what I
loved is that she said all that and then went
and found Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So do you think she's gonna stay with him Denmark?
I mean, he seems special.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It is they kind of leave it open ended ish,
but it seemed like maybe they'll Yes, it seems like
she's in love with him. When she was like, life
without you is just a life without you? Yeah, oh
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
And his robot tendencies, which does do give him a personality.
His personality is robotic kind of work for her ultimately, Yeah,
it's true she does it. Is it also cont It's
like the contrast from her like that that push and pull. Yeah,
she wants she wants a relationship with push and pull,
(38:25):
but the push and pull is kind of like philosophical
mm hm, anyway out of your last note is so depressing.
It's but when I opened my eyes, I was alone me.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Every morning. Every morning my alemb goes off. I go
it yep, this again. Hey, I someone just kissed me
on the mouth and I need a second. We'll be
back in three minutes.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Because you got a boner. I have a bone.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
We need to take an ad break because I have
a boner Well Siena. Should we open our eyes into
our next segment, Badges and tradges.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
This is the segment of the podcast where we give
badges for berliners figuring out what love is to them,
and tradges.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
For treating a robot like garbage.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, that's what we've seen. We know, bad idea. My
first badge is B for comedy genius Dan Stevens. When
he's doing the remba in that first scene. Oh yeah,
very funny.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
She's like, you'll want to dance with him, try it out.
I think when he was dancing, I went, I think
this guy is a robot and then she was gwitching
and I was like, I knew it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I hate Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
My first badge, of course is for epic fail videos.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I thought that was so funny that one of the
ways he tries to figure out human nature is he's
like what and he wants us a bunch. There's like
a compilation of epic fail videos, which is kind of
insightful about, like that really is extremely human that we
find it funny when we try at something and fail.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah. I really loved that scene. I found the thing
about that scene that I found so interesting is the
idea of trying to teach a robot the concept of
humor and trying to explain why something is funny. I
was like, that is so interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
My mix.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Badge is for pancakes. Oh he makes a glorious stack
of pancakes with berries. Delish.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I cannot stand when a character has all this food
in front of them and they're like, I can't eat.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
This, Please something less, shame let us in there. Do
you have a meal on screen that you don't have
time to eat? Call Sienna and Leon.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll come.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
We'll come, hoover it up, we'll inhale that right down.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Um. Badge for nature, I mean, come on, mmmm, glorious,
so jealous.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh Badge for the way he walks holding the ten
pound euro note that she gave him. He walks into
the cafe with it in a funny way.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
That man is a robot. Badge for philosophical but by
a woman. I love when women make things. I'll say it.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Movies by women simply are better. And we've serven it
time and time again.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, I really I was very interested in all the
things that this was sort of chewing on, and it
was just sort of like a nice slow movie where
you could think about stuff and nothing grotesque happened. It
just made you sit and think, which I love.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, and I like that it asks these big questions
and then it presents you with kind of an answer
for just one person, where it's like this is her
general opinion on it, and also like she is flawed
and for her specifically, like she is going to keep
this robot yea because she loves him. He rocks, She rocks,
(42:45):
he does rock.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He's fun. I'm sorry. Also was like robots aren't real,
they don't have souls, bla blah blah blah. He was
standing with a bunch of deer and was like, hey,
they can't smell me. I can just stand with them,
Like I'm sorry, that's a vibe.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's absolutely yeah. If he doesn't have a soul, he
at least has a vibe. Okay, a badge for Dan
Stevens having a bath when he draws that romantic bath
and he's like ninety three percent of German women dream
of this, and she's like, okay, I don't and then
he just takes the bag and is like huh. I
loved that. Was that your last wrong. Oh and then
(43:24):
oh gosh, it looks like most of my badges are
about Dan Stevens. Okay, my final badge is for Dan Stevens.
Looks so good in this shade of blue. The outfit
he's wearing when they're lying in the meadow. Oh, navy blue.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I love that meadow scene.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
He's so hot to me? Yeah, is he hot to you?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
He's not my type, but a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Have you seen him in Eurovision? No?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh? I saw him in Dalton Abbey And now seeing
him and anything else is like extra fun because he
was had to be so serious in that, so like
when he's being like a goofy guy.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh, you've got to see Eurovision. Okay, Well, a song
of Ice and Fire. No, that's the subtitle for Game
of Thrones. It's something like that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Eurovisions those all right trages, hmm, trag Is I just
have one trage, I guess, and it's the okay, well, yeah,
it's just the I wrote sonogram, of course, but we
explained that obviously there's complexities around that, like if you've
(44:45):
experienced this, but it's just the that being the one
way we show that women are allowed to have pain. Yeah,
and it's like like women of that age, it's like
because something's passed from your youth or like what your
life was going to be. I get that it represents
like a life that could have been. But I'm like,
I don't know, maybe that's not the biggest deal to her.
(45:06):
Maybe there's other stuff I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Hmm, yeah, totally agree. My first trage is trag for
I Leanna didn't realize that I had signed up for
this noon gym class, and she's like, to cancel. I
had to pause the movie and go to a gym class. Really,
you went, yeah, I had to go otherwise the charge
(45:29):
of fee or you like penalized.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I thought that's what you were gonna say, is that
you were charge to fee, But no, I would never
do that. What is it that your dentist told you?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Again? Oh, I was exceptionally complicit? Complicit? Yeah, the worst
worst adjective. I mean, hello, talking about like a German.
I was gonna say, you never want to be described
as exceptionally complicit, but she was talking about wearing my retainers.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Uh Oh. A trage for the classic game of are
those coffee cups empty? And the answer is always.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, when they're drinking from the male.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
If a character on screen has a coffee cup, that
cup is empty and you can tell from the way
they fling it around.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's the same with a suitcase. Oh my god, they're
like speed and zooming through with a suitcase.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Come on, guy with one pinky. Yeah, come on. Yeah,
oh trage for dead mom. Her dad is alive, but
her mom. Oh yeah, he's like, I wish I'd love
to have met her. I'm like, uh, all right. Also,
oh my god, her dad got robbed. And that was
just like kind of a small scene.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, that cop was insane. That cop is like, yeah,
the stupid criminals robbing somebody.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Really, that is how a German police officer someone. I
think Germans are very direct as a general generalization. Totally
a trage for they didn't quite get the lighting right
with that cgi oh with the deer, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yes, that was strange.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It was odd. My Oh is this a final trage? Yes, ma,
my final trage is oh, for god's sake, a sonogram
shut up.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Okay, I'm glad we felt the same way about that.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, this is I found that really annoying.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
People like us who have watched a billion movies in
a row. It's just like, Wow, this this woman is
really struggling. It's so cool to see a woman, just
a grown woman, kind of struggle with life because life
is hard. And then it's like there's a reason, there's
actually a really big reason, and she can't be a mother.
It's fertility. She's not really open because guess what, I'm
a girl.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, like, oh my god, the one thing everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Right, Can it just be that, like you're just embarrassed
about your general life or something like that, like minor,
all vague, minor, a vague anxiety general. It's the vagueness
that makes them so, that makes them, Yeah, so worrisome.
M h. Anyway, let women be vague.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yes, it's like a blurry poster. Okay, well Leonna, Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Shall I move on to our next segment, which is,
of course, how to pretend you've seen this film. This
is before You're going on a nice hike out in nature.
It is gorgeous. You're going on a hike, you see
a deer, you go, wow, a deer, and then you
see a poorly lit man standing right next to it.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah. Yeah, and I'm not quite calibrated. Yet Tom comes
up to you and says, be boop, hello, Wow, I
read in your file. I didn't have time to process
all of your file, so the only thing I saw
on it was film. And I've downloaded a full catalog
(48:56):
of movies that i'd now like to speak with you about,
beginning No the film ikbin dyne Mensch, because of course
there's a deer in a forest, and I'm gonna tell
you everything about my philosophy no ikbin dyne mensch and
right now.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
And in order to in order to shut down Tom
and all of his opinions, here are a few things
that you can say to pretend you've seen the film.
I'm your man.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Mmm, yeah, Tom, I've seen ichbin dyne mench. I what
I was saying previously before you interrupted me in my
Forest of Deer was after I finished the film, I
went to YouTube to watch interviews with the cast because
I wanted to watch Dan Stevens be Charming in English,
and found that all the interviews were on zoom, and
(49:47):
then was fascinated by my gut reaction of no longer
wanting to watch them because what I wanted to see
was him and his co star interacting physically next to
one another. Oh, yeah, something we lost in the pandemic
for a long time and haven't necessarily fully regained.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. We're never gonna
be right.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
That's interesting, Like you do lose something when you're not
physically with someone, they.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Don't get to like, look and do their That's the
whole thing is when they're doing press events together, they
get to like, Oh, that's why we're watching them in
the first place, to watch people be charming and like
each other. Yes, Tom, I have seen the film. Yes, Tom,
(50:36):
I have seen the film I'm Your Man. I was
thinking about. Her name is Alma, which means soul in Spanish,
and uh hmmm, that could be alluding to the concept
of of the soul and who has it and what
doesn't that she has a soul and Tom does not,
which is funny. Alma means soul and Tom means no soul.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Tom Tom means Thomas. Yes, Tom, I've seen I'm Your Man.
I was absolutely My mind was blown. And this is
just my American ass being an American. When she asked
(51:19):
him why the English accent, and I said, oh, I'd.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Never have known.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Oh that he was speaking German with an English accent.
I know that is how could we know? Yes, Tom,
I have seen the film I'm Your Man. This film
was nominated for a ton of awards.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Wow, it won a lot of them. Wow, this was
like really made a splash in twenty twenty one. But
one of them that was a nominated for is called
the Golden Bear. How fun is that? And it won
for Best Leading Performance with the main actress, Oh Slave.
I really like her.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, I thought she was great. She also she was
skinny in that German way where it seems like this
has just happened because of your lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
They're kind of like it's like kind of athletic kind
of yeah, like I bet you were really you'd be
really good at running.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
And you know it's just because of your life's that
you're not like I go out and I run on purpose.
It's just like, yeah, I live a German life.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
I also think I appreciated her because she has like
curly ish hair and that's very relatable.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Definitely, Yes, Tom, I've seen ibin dyne Mensch. And I'm
going to leave this conversation now because, as the therapist
Robot said, at the very beginning. When happiness knocks at
your door, you should open it and leaving this conversation
would make me very happy.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Alfrieder Zan Frita Jay so hard for me to say, yes, Tom,
I have seen the film I'm Your Man. Dan Stevens
is fluent in German, which is very believable from this
is his second German film after Hilda two thousand and nine,
(53:16):
and he is the only English actor in this film.
They really wanted to talk about him. And finally Marin Eggert,
who is the main person, is also in a movie
called called A Decent Man and a movie called I
Was at Home Comma.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
But that sounds like a movie from when they first
started making.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Movies, Yeah it does. I was at home?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But love that me talking about my weekend to any
of my colleagues. Well, I was at home but.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Ah well, le honest. Should we move on to our
next segment, which is, of course should you watch this
or in which we tell you if you should watch
this film or if you should do something else with
your precious time. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, bita, I would say absolutely, you can watch Ibin
din Mensh or I'm Your Man. I really liked it
and I think it asks interesting questions. It doesn't feel
like a slog. No one is really suffering greatly in it.
I mean, people have like sadness and whatnot, but you're
not witnessing like atrocities being done.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I would say, hell, y'all, Sianna, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I feel exactly the same way. I recommend this movie.
I thought it was fun, it's not too long, it's
it's chill, and the acting's good and yeah, I just
really enjoyed it. I felt good after watching it. Mm
hmm woo great rerect Lehanna, what are you gonna rate
this film? Girly Pop?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Honestly, I might rate this film five communal Deer out
of thought. I kind of can't fault it. I enjoyed
watching it a lot. I thought it was a quiet
and reflective and interesting movie.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Totally, Lenna, what would you rate it? I'm gonna give
this movie five menches out of five. Yeah, I agree
with all that. And I think there's something about when
I watch a movie. Pretty much what I want is
to spend time in beautiful but a very specific type
of like nature beautiful type of home where the light
(55:37):
is streaming in in just the most pleasant way I
can imagine. And this is one of those movies that
gave me that Oh there's only like a handful of it.
Whoo yeah, so I really liked it. Oh yay, yay
sci fi by women, Yay women women. Thank you everybody
(56:01):
so much for listening. This is to Toss Popcorn. We
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Much appreciated all the time. Again, remind her that we
(56:21):
will be taking a hiatus for the month of August
because Leanna has to go do comedy things in Edinburgh.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Every damn day, every damn.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Monday, exceptionally complicit. She's gonna be great at this.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Hey, how Hey, it's true.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
So follow her on Instagram watch her journey, and follow
Sienna to watch her Journeyoo.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
God, two women going on separate journeys. Exciting and we'll
be Macia in September. Oh my gosh, yay.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
We love you.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Tag, I'm Leanna Holsten and I'm Sienna Jacob and veilkammin
to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every
film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of
All Time, the very slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary edition,
and are now watching films directed by women.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
This podcast is a safe museum for people who don't
know anything about movies. Today we're watching I'm Your Man
or do you know how to say it in German.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ich bindne mensch, i bindne bench cox.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how you're about this movie,
but love it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Uh a German film warning. Yeah, there will be spoilers
about this.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Robotic German film. Yeah, it is too German. It was
very German. I don't know why I know about this movie.
I think I saw a trailer for it once and said, yeah,
(01:40):
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I looked up the actress afterward, and every single movie
she's in looks appealing to me, So thank you, Oh
my god, I just the vibes.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, So maybe I'll get really into these German films.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, hell yeah, hell yeah, okay, Well I guess should
we start with prediction adiction?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I had a vague sense about this. Yeah, okay, Sienna,
here's my prediction for ipin Diamond Diamone. Good morning, Sienna,
it's Leanna. I'm about to watch I'm Your Man. I
vaguely know that this is about like a rough custom
built Oh okay, who is Dan Steven?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Huh? Maybe you're a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I predicted it's gonna be sweet and oh unfortunately might
make me cause me to feel emotions love you bye. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We'll be interested to hear if that was the case.
Now would you like to hear my prediction?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'd love to please.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I haven't reviewed it, okay, all right, right, yeah, hi Leanna,
this is I'm about to watch I'm Your Man.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh yeah, Oh looks.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like one of the women in this is the woman
from that movie about the Fall?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is that true? It's German, so that would make sense.
I think it's gonna be German this year.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But I random watched on a plane Anatomy of a Fall.
My prediction is that there's going to be like primary colors,
and maybe it's about finding no, A wonderful man boyfriend
part of but there's some sci fi element, Okay, because
(03:31):
he was repeated a lot on the picture. I don't know,
you know what, I don't know what this is going
to be about. I'm sorry for saying anything.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I I thought it might be like saying anything in
the segment where I have to say something, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's I guess I assume that there'd be some sorts
of iterations of this man, I'm a poster. He's like
repeated a bunch, but m they got they got across
the fact that it was sci fi. So I didn't
know he was a robot until it started.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, again, I don't. I don't. I guess
it's it's my thing of I'll see a trailer for
a film and say, oh, I'd like to see that,
and then never watch it. Yeah, So in the back
in the back of my head there's a rolodex of
movie trailers for films. I think I'd enjoy.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And I never bothered to see great news for us,
I hope so, and this was one of them.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Great wreck. Well, Leanna, before we start talking about the podcast,
Oh my gosh, talking about the movie Hey Girls. Today
we're going to do an analysis of Toss Poscorn Hey girl,
Hey girl, and hello listeners. This is our last episode
for a little bit because I in fifteen hours am
(04:48):
going up to Edinburgh, Scotland. Really that's one month. Yeah,
it's the last episode for a little bit, like a
month and a half or something.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Maybe we're not stopping for back in September. September sounded
kind of like we were stopping it completely based on Well, everyone,
I watched the last film I'll ever see. I have
been speaking about it like I'll die up there. I'm
not ruling it out. We'll come back, yack, whenever I
get back. Well, you'll listen, you'll Yes, we'll be back
(05:20):
in September. We'll see you in September after this episode,
which we're seeing you for right now.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Excellent. Perfect, So you are I was gonna ask you're
hot and packing mode, but you're probably like packed? Now?
How are you as a packer?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Have you met me? Yes? The way that I pack
is the opposite of the way that I get to
the airport. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, it does. It does because I would have assumed
that you when you were getting rid of your furniture.
I remember being like, wow, she's doing this exactly the
perfect time before moving out.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I assumed I'm a good mover. I'm not a
good packer. I will probably start at eight thirty or
nine tonight. Okay, pack a suitcase for one month.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The thing is I only have so many things.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I know how long can it take to put some
of those things into a bag?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And when you're pretty aware of what you need at
this time, at this life stage, I'm like, it's always
the same stuff. There's a few essential toiletries, but beyond that,
what's your living situation up there?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Again? I will be in student accommodation. Oh, four bedroom,
student like dorm basically with a shared kitchen in student
halls in Edinburgh with three pals. So cool. It's going
to be a twin bed for a month, totally and
you know us we're not small women. Yeah, oh I know,
(06:51):
but I don't have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
At least you have it. At least it's just you
in there, always is I guess I when I picture Edinburgh,
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I guess when I picture Edinburgh,
I picture literally people are like there's like somebody on
it in every corner and you're like sharing a bed
with your like yes, uh show partner, and you're like
(07:16):
totally stacked on.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And that is what it was when I worked there.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, I guess that's maybe what it was there, because
that's when you literally what it was fewer rights.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I had no rights. I was an intern. Yeah, of course,
but now I have some rights. It will get my
little twin bed, which is that I get to have
my own twin bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Wow. Well, I'm so excited to see updates and everything.
Thank you Insteagram.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's gonna be great. If anybody would care to follow along,
you can follow at Leona Holsten on Instagram. I'll be
regrettably incessantly posting about the shows and the experience, and uh,
I'll aim to keep it fun and fresh and flirting.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I That's that's my promise to you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hey girl girl. I'm in sort of a similar state
of about to be heading to uh somewhat long term
shows because I'm going for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Weeks. Some posts about perhaps sub letting a room or
perhaps yes.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So I'll be leaving for a couple of weeks and uh,
it's a similar thing of I do not have nearly
as many shows, but I'm like feeling the nerves of
I'm excited to go do puppets at these music festivals.
But it's going to be really different from what we've
done before. It's like much more professional, which is exciting
because like we'll have like actual tents and stuff set
(08:45):
up for us, Yeah, to go change out of puppets
and stuff. But there are just things where there's no
way of knowing how unruly a puppet's going to be
until you get there and start doing it, and like.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You make them sound like they have minds of their own.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's just like you can try to think through as
much as you It's basically an engineering problem in that,
like the kick test, you can only test it so
much before like taking it to people. For example, we'll
make puppets and then we'll go in front of kids
and kids will try to like rip stuff off of them,
and we're like, oh, I didn't realize this would happen,
you know what I mean. So it's like, since this
(09:21):
is something we're really actually getting paid for and it's
a legitimate.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Establishment, do you think the grateful dead is going to
try to rip stuff off your puppet.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, I'm so scared of them. Did you know John
Mayer is grateful dead?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Now, I don't think that's right. No, I have to
look it up. No, I don't believe that. Even if
that's true, I don't believe it. I'm sure you're right.
I don't believe you. Yeah, he doesn't need to be
I don't feel grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's so funny. Okay, Yeah, I'm so afraid that John
Mayer is going to try to rip stuff off of
my puppet. I'm so scared of him.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Wouldn't be the first time.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, anyway, So it's the sort of like nerves of
I just made this big Bison and I'm afraid it's
gonna I'm afraid it's gonna fall apart. But it's also
exciting and I'm very grateful to like get to go,
uh you know, do a job like this. But we're
(10:24):
definitely also in crunch time. Like we're leaving in like
three days and then I'm going straight to Chicago afterward. Ah,
my friend's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The city of Love. That's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's not true. There's no love there the city of
windy City is yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I talked to a.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Very contrary Chicago person a couple months ago and I
was like, the windy city, of course, and she was like, well, actually,
it's not because it's windy, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Because of the yeah, the politicians. I was like, I know,
you don't need to say that, but also I've been
there and it was windy. Why are they trying to
say it's not windy at all? It has to be
a little windy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It was really windy when I was in Chicago, So
shut up. Are you performing in Chicago or just friend time?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Just friend time?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You should get what Giordano's Deep Dish pizza. Oh, it
was really good in twenty thirteen. Okay, I cannot speak
to the quality of it. Now I'll go and I'll
tell you you know what. You also should get what.
I think it's called Andy's and it's frozen custard.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I love frozen custard.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, they had it in Evanston. I don't know if
it'll be in Chicago, but it was when I went
to Theater Camp the place to be. Okay, it was
so delicious and they'll do crazy mixins again in twenty thirteen.
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm typing that out, I'm running it down.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, I guess we should talk about the movie, Sienna,
I really want to talk to you about this movie.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you please give us a synopsis so that the
listener has even a modicum of context. Yes, of the
film I'm Your Man or ichbin dyn mens spin Dynemnsch.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Due to being the only single person in her community apparently,
and with the promise of receiving research funding in return,
Alma is tasked with beta testing a robot dating service
in which the.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Perfect man is created for her and she has to
live with him for three weeks. She then meets Tom,
a robot with a British accent, though this whole movie
is in German, so speaking German with a British accent.
They talk about it and she struggles to be nice
to him for that three week period, especially because she
(12:55):
is a scientist who studies the past.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
For a living.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And she's all into that human stuff like art and poetry,
so she, of all people, has a problem with this robot.
But Tom ends up growing on need I say more?
The end?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yay rock and roll?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Rock and roll, So it's that kind of light sci
fi thing. Yeah, and a lot of talk about what
it means to be human and everything. But it was
all that stuff from the perspective of a woman, and
boy did not make it more appealing than the other
sci fi I have seed wow thing when a woman
directs the sci fi film is no, one goes to
space and it's never raining, and you're not in some
(13:45):
weird neon city and there's no there's.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No like sexy sexy lady in skin type.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, why do they always do that?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
There's always sexy lady in skin tight uniform? Oh, this
was busy German woman.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Archaeologist, Yes, busy woman.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
What is her job title? I couldn't figure out when
I was looking at and.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
They said scientist a lot of times while I was
looking it up. But I wonder if that was like
a direct translation or something, because archaeologist or like an
anthropologist sounds right.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That feels right, yeah, because she.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was studying like I forget what they were called, but
something like hieroglyphic uniform tablet uniform tablet.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yes, wow, nice memory. I just came to thank you.
I feel grateful.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I loved this. You're so right. The busy woman. The
busy woman.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
A woman. This woman is busy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
He'll excuse me. A man just tried to tell me
what to do with the seat of my car, so
I need to go crash it in retaliation. We'll be
right back. Yeah. I really enjoyed this.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay, my god. Well let's dive into our phone notes
section of the podcast, where we read the notes that
the other person took on their phone while watching the film.
But can I ask you a big question overall before
we dive into specifics. Yeah, if you could get a
robot who was custom built to be your dream partner,
would you would ja?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Would you? Well, it's easy to say no to that
because you're like, no, robots are oh, I mean like
from a humanitarian, from a humanities perspective. Sure, from a
humanities perspective. I feel like we're supposed to be like robots.
(15:45):
Hell no, you know, like there's no humanity. But every
time I've ever watched a robot movie, it's like they
do act pretty human. I think even if I talked
to chat GPT for a while, I'd be like, man,
you're pretty funny anyway. Yeah, that'd be fine with me. Wow, Really,
I'm not so sure. The thing is the thing that
(16:06):
was tough was his whole thing of not having any need.
It's like, yeah, the idea of a relationship where one
partner has no needs is like, hmm, I don't. It's
it's hard to actually fathom because that's so much of
like what hanging out with the person is is You're like,
I'm hungry, I have to pee, I feel sick today,
(16:27):
you know, like that's what hanging out with humans is.
Like sounds amazing, Yeah, but I do think though they
kind of talk about like that he doesn't have needs,
but it's like, but he does, like he he wants
to be helpful, he wants to be like a good partner,
he wants you know, like he does have things he's
supposed to achieve. So in that way, I think he
does have more, yeah, needs than we want to say anyway,
(16:51):
But there have certainly been many times that I'm highly dissatisfied.
I really enjoy my relationship now, but in every other
relationship that I've been in, I'm like, boy, I wish
we could fix this thing, this thing, this thing, this thing,
this thing, this thing, this thing, this thing, and then
it'd be happy. So like yes, it would be It
(17:11):
would be nice, I think yeah. Because also they're listening.
It's like they design a man who like listens and
wants to be better. So it's like in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh my god, wow, yeah, oh my god. It's sort
of just like thing of wanting to be better is yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
An empathetic adult man is kind of what they're designing.
What about you, Leanna?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know, I I have mixed feelings about it. I think,
you know, given the nothing that's been going on, something
would be cool. But I also have a feeling that
I would feel like it was cheating, right. It's like
I didn't I didn't earn this in the through the
(17:58):
traditional avenues of horrific online dating and suffering, right, And
I got really spooked when she was doing her monologue
the morning after they slept together, where she was like,
I'm just in here talking to myself. That was crazy,
But that to me was like.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I loved the way that this movie kind of studied
what it means to be like connected to somebody and
what what it means to be human and exist. Because sorry,
but you could say that about anybody you're talking to,
Like in this whole world. I know that you're it's different,
like a connecting of minds and everything, and it's the soul.
(18:40):
It's like the unnameable soul of.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It all.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That you're really really feeling like is missing when you're
talking to this robot, I guess. But it's like you're
kind of talking to yourself all the time with everybody,
because whoa, what does it mean to actually exist and
to be conscious and blah blah blah blah blah. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Wow. Yeah, and if anything, this robot is actively listening
way more than most people you talk to.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point. Yeah, I think
it could really work for women.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't think. I don't see this not happening at
some point down the line. It's like, but I think
men will use it first, and they will just exact
sex robot.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's why it's no good. Yeah, because a woman who
doesn't have I think it'd be like this is a
real generalization, and I'm aware of that, but I'm gonna
say it because that's what we do here.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
My generalization.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think that uh, the heterosexual the women would be
more likely to they'd use it to try to get
the emotional connection that they desire instead of like doing
it to so that you don't have to have the
emotional connection. It's like, I want to have this with somebody,
(19:59):
but most of the men that I've interacted with have
been socialized in such a way that that's very difficult
to get from them, and I feel like I'm always
missing it. And I was cursed with being heterosexual, even
though it would probably be something I could get with
a woman.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, the plate
I do, I understand.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Okay, it's.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Now okay. Your first note is is he a robot?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He glitched out when she was asking him math and stuff.
I was like, uh huh, but I didn't know what
was going on for a while and it was kind
of fun.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh that is interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And Leonna, your first note is ech bean dine mench.
Do your parents ever speak German since they.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
They did when we were little if they were talking
about something that they didn't want us to know what
they were talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Do they both speak it fluently?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Uh? No, they were conversational in it when they lived
in your many because they were there for three years
and then for maybe a few years after moving to
back to the States, and then it did kind of
come back when I went to Germany with them after
high school. They had a conversation with someone in German
and I was like, Okay, I guess I'll fuck off. No,
(21:18):
I'm kidding. It was very cool.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, this is yeah, this is the plight of the
foreign film Leanna. You said, I keep forgetting I have
to look at the screen to understand what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
There were I'd be, oh my gosh, I'd be watching
it and then I'd get up to go get something,
and then I'd suddenly be like, oh wait, What's what's happening?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That happened to me too. I'd be like, oh, I'm
gonna look that up, or like who's that actor or something?
And then all of a sudden, no idea, someone's yelling
or something. I'm like, what what happened?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Huh? Yeah? You said, is his algorithm? If his algorithm
is designed to make her happy, why does he not
know anything about how not to be annoying?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That was the thing that they missed when designing him
was he has no even receptors for going, am I
being annoying?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah? Which he doesn't have, like insecurity or anxiety I
guess that you can't program that into a robot, right right,
self doubt or self consciousness. Yeah, he was, but also
he was being a man.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Very annoying. He's being very annoying when he first.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Said that when he corrected her driving, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
He corrected her driving, and then he like reorganized all
of her stuff without asking and stuff, and it's like
you could ask, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If my apartment, if I woke up and my apartment
had been deep cleaned and reorganized, I think I would
love that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, definitely, Definitely he was doing lovely things, but it
was a lot. She already she's expressed that she has
no interest in this. Yeah, you know, but he was
given no no programming to tell him. You know, I
think it's slow. And also she wouldn't say it to him.
(23:09):
Communication is key. How about later when they were saying
tutelou and stuff, when she was like, don't say tutelou
to me, Oh, don't say whatever, and they were all
German phrases like don't say in een being bonk to me,
don't see say Einschler.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Apologies as always to Germany.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And apologies to Germany.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Ah, yeah, I was I was struck by how like
kind of rude she was to him?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
She was very mean, Yeah, borderline abusive. At a certain point.
I was like, girl, I was like, he made you
a stack of pancakes.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That looks delicious. Yeah, why wouldn't you be like, oh,
that's so nice. I just feel like you'd be like, oh,
I'm really sorry, I can't stay. Thank you for doing that.
That's actually something I'm interested in.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, she refused to do and that's where she had
flaws too, that's true. Or when she was like, I
command you to have sex with me, I was like,
I was like.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Here we go sex robots. We all knew what was coming.
We all knew it was coming, which he didn't. It's yeah,
that was I was like, oh my god, this robot
understands the concept of consent much more than a human man.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I also like that it is natural that she at
some point would do something like that or be like, well,
if you're a robot, then I command you. You know.
He's like, no, yeah, Leoni, you said I'd have called
this man you weird bitch so many times by now.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, Yeah, so I did say if I woke up
in my flat had been deep cleaned and rearranged. I'd
like it, but also I would be like, your weird bitch,
because pancar weird bitch, your weird bitch. Yeah, as like
a term of endearment. Yeah, but you are being weird.
You are being weird and a little bit of a bitch.
It's been weird and kind of a bitch. Cianna, you said,
(25:12):
this movie asks the sexy question what if a humanity's
professional and an AI had sex. They did it in
a way that surprised me.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, when they finally boned. Yeah, do you mean.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I didn't really know you could do it? And facing
that directly, I was surprised as well.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I too was surprised by that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, thank god.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And I appreciate when sex and a movie will just
be like a specific position that like someone likes, because
it's like, yeah, there are so many sort of different
angles that you can use, Like we see a lot
of the same stuff on TV. But I'm like, I
don't even know their legs were.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like down are apart? Yeah, they seemed pretty far apart.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I don't know if anyone's leg was lifted and they
were front to front somehow it was going in and
then she had a gentle but complete orgasm. Yeah, which
is great. But I was like, wow, whatever's going on
there would never work on me.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I was like, I didn't think they'd started.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Maybe when you were finished.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We didn't see what the shape of everything.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Was, but maybe we sure didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Maybe it was designed to fit.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, super duper.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Long, curly curly goes all the way around the ducks. Yeah. Yeah.
But like I like when they have different you know,
not just the same old, same ole that you see
on movies, because it's like, sure, that's what works for her,
a very specific angle she knows.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And he does too.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, wait, sorry, Leoni, you also said, uh, what's the
deal with your cock?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I gasped, Oh my god. It was so so abrupt.
I mean, she was drunk, but I was like, very
not appropriate. You can't just say that to someone.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I think I have a gene where I get really
bad hangovers because I cannot imagine anybody over the age
of twenty nine getting blasted drunk. I'm like, I, how
you're going to wake up dead dead? You will be
in such there'll be awake, but you'll be dead. Yeah.
(27:40):
I don't understand how people do these things. You.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, And on the note about the cock, you noted, Okay,
so he only gets a boner if he kisses, but
he always gets a boner when he kisses.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That was surprising to me. I was like, ooh, and
maybe it's like, hey, the amount of time they kiss for,
but like, what if they kiss in public?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I know, a little kiss goodbye? Oh, swinging shwing swing.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I'm like, I do feel like that seems like designed
by a man to me, because I don't like that.
I would never want to go in that fast.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's not I don't want the boy going one one
little peck, one peen, We're off to the races. Yeah,
it's like a button on his mouth triggers it. That
is wild.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Leanna, you said this guy is such a mood. Oh,
and it seems to be after he was communing with deer.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I loved that he just went and stood and communed
with deer.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I have a note on that about you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh, that's what this is. Because you wrote Leanna's in
Bretzki's literal dream.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I know they were Deer and not Elk, but still
being in Germany, heared of Elk I don't want to
be in a pod of elk, being in Germany surrounded
by a pod of deer deer, that would be nice.
It just it just it reminds me of a dream
way to do that, even if it's it reminds me. Well.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
My recurring nightmare as a child was that an elk
was in my home and speaking the King's English to me.
But my there's in Munich. There's this place called the
Hirsch Garden, which is a beer garden that's outdoors, and
it's right next to a literal deer park. So you
can be sitting at your bench having your your stein
and your pretzel, your bret wow, and there's deer or
(29:41):
heirsh right next to you. Wow. Gosh.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I gotta go somewhere else besides here some point at
that point the world seems magical. Other places.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh my god, Sianna, thank you. I felt the same
way you wrote. If it's a sonogram, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, please, I Loo Please.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is where I was like, are you kidding this again?
But then I was like, am I being disrespectful? This
actually is the experience for a lot of people who
can or cannot but have child, birthing for organs, Oh
my god, reproductive organs.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Jesus, Yes, I understand this is the real thing. And
I also feel the same way where I'm like, this
is just a pain I haven't yet experienced in my life,
and perhaps someday i'll understand more, like when people around
me are doing more fertility stuff, and I understand it is.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Like the foundational motivation of a character.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, it's like how in I get how in movies
you have to have something a little more solid to
explain why somebody is not content or why they have pain.
But it's like, yeah, you can just have pain from
your whole life. It doesn't have to be from something
as concrete as and as societal as you can't have children,
(31:04):
or like you were going to have a child but
it didn't work out. But I feel the same way
where obviously that's for people who have experienced that that
might feel really like cathartic to see or impactful to see,
but it's just it's just it's done so much. I
kind of just like I appreciate when movies just let
something be, Like I just have sadness because I'm a
(31:26):
human and things haven't worked out and I'm lonely, you know,
versus like, yeah, I just couldn't Yeah exactly, I yeah,
I couldn't. Have A child would have solved everything. I'd
be happy if I had a child, you know, like
that's kind of what it says, like that doesn't really
feel honest.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, it's okay to hate your ex boyfriend and that's
moving in with someone else in that she's having a
baby just because of all that.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Just regular style because you didn't want one.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Or house style, you know, home fries.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, Hanna, you said, I smell like nothing to them.
Me to the boys, I smell like nothing to them.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's like, they literally don't see me or notice I exist.
And I was like, mm hmm, yeah, that's right. I
saw a man look through me on the subway the
other day. What I said, are you kidding? It can't
be that bad.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Maybe we need to find a strong musk. I wonder
if that man would have responded to a strong musk.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You've got to build up my musk. Yeah, I'm working
on my musk. Uh huh. I'd like to change my musk.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Leanna. You said, when I was fourteen, I went to
a party. Okay, brag nothing makes me feel Oh, okay,
you said, and then I knew that God didn't exist.
Okay German, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
But what were you gonna say? That makes me feel?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Nothing makes me stop relating to a person quicker than
finding out that they had any sort of normalness, normality
and popularity in middle school.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Same yeah, or anytime.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
We've talked about this before when someone's like, no, I
mean yeah, my first boyfriend or girlfriend was at this stage.
I mean I had one when I was like fourteen,
but like that doesn't count, and I'm like, uh, huh,
yes it does.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It really does. Actually it does. Not chosen to list
it it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Maybe it didn't have to do with like actual relationships.
What matters is who you were and who you think
of yourself in life, what your brain told you you were,
you deserved, you knew the wisdom you had. How dare
you try being a nerd?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Dare you?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And I love that, I loved that I was that.
I that I've had a nerdy existence in middle school
and onward. But uh, but it's just like we're not
the same. No, we're not the same.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I have that with people who are like, no, I
don't really go to the gym. I just look like this.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, that's crazy because I go to the gym so much.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Leanna, you said, okay, Queen, that's probably enough time with
the egg. After she has a romantic evening with Tom.
The next day, she is cooling off a boiled egg
in the sink and the water is We're watching the
(34:50):
water spill down on it from the faucet, and that
is what Leanna is talking about. Do you think that
was supposed to be like symbolic.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I I was annoyed by that point and thought maybe,
But I think more it was just her spinning out
about like why am I trying to as she says,
like I tried to make you the perfect hard boiled
egg even though you won't give a shit. Yeah, because
you're a robot. Yeah, you literally can't care.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
He said, there's something about me people run from me.
Same and that is in response to a man, an old,
old fish man who they choose to put with a
robotic pretty lady to be like, I'm the ugliest man
(35:42):
in the world. Everyone's hated me ever since I was born,
and now I finally have a robot girl.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah. See that was during his monolog I was like, no,
I do see why people get these see, I know
your final note is WHOA, what do you think of
that speech she gave dot? I'm confused smile.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Maybe it's the German of it all, but the thing
of I get what she's saying. But she was basically like,
we shouldn't have them because people don't deserve them. Unless
I definitely get what she means, but it was giving
a little eugenics question mark.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
She was making the point of, like, if we do
the robots, we will become eugenic eugenesis.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Oh yeah, okay, But.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I think the point I really appreciated her making in
the her like notes on the study was or her
feedback or whatever she calls it, was how will will grow?
Like I can't remember the adjectives she used, but basically
(37:07):
like groggy and over saturated with like satisfaction and always
having our needs met. WHOA, that's interesting ignores like the
very nature of a relationship between two humans, which is
what you were saying earlier, Like humans have needs. Yeah,
and you have to like compromise between two rather than
(37:28):
it just being one person and the other is there
simply to meet their needs?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
So I did like that point, but really what I
loved is that she said all that and then went
and found Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So do you think she's gonna stay with him Denmark?
I mean, he seems special.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It is they kind of leave it open ended ish,
but it seemed like maybe they'll Yes, it seems like
she's in love with him. When she was like, life
without you is just a life without you? Yeah, oh
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
And his robot tendencies, which does do give him a personality.
His personality is robotic kind of work for her ultimately, Yeah,
it's true she does it. Is it also cont It's
like the contrast from her like that that push and pull. Yeah,
she wants she wants a relationship with push and pull,
(38:25):
but the push and pull is kind of like philosophical
mm hm, anyway out of your last note is so depressing.
It's but when I opened my eyes, I was alone me.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Every morning. Every morning my alemb goes off. I go
it yep, this again. Hey, I someone just kissed me
on the mouth and I need a second. We'll be
back in three minutes.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Because you got a boner. I have a bone.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
We need to take an ad break because I have
a boner Well Siena. Should we open our eyes into
our next segment, Badges and tradges.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
This is the segment of the podcast where we give
badges for berliners figuring out what love is to them,
and tradges.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
For treating a robot like garbage.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, that's what we've seen. We know, bad idea. My
first badge is B for comedy genius Dan Stevens. When
he's doing the remba in that first scene. Oh yeah,
very funny.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
She's like, you'll want to dance with him, try it out.
I think when he was dancing, I went, I think
this guy is a robot and then she was gwitching
and I was like, I knew it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I hate Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
My first badge, of course is for epic fail videos.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I thought that was so funny that one of the
ways he tries to figure out human nature is he's
like what and he wants us a bunch. There's like
a compilation of epic fail videos, which is kind of
insightful about, like that really is extremely human that we
find it funny when we try at something and fail.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah. I really loved that scene. I found the thing
about that scene that I found so interesting is the
idea of trying to teach a robot the concept of
humor and trying to explain why something is funny. I
was like, that is so interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
My mix.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Badge is for pancakes. Oh he makes a glorious stack
of pancakes with berries. Delish.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I cannot stand when a character has all this food
in front of them and they're like, I can't eat.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
This, Please something less, shame let us in there. Do
you have a meal on screen that you don't have
time to eat? Call Sienna and Leon.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll come.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
We'll come, hoover it up, we'll inhale that right down.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Um. Badge for nature, I mean, come on, mmmm, glorious,
so jealous.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh Badge for the way he walks holding the ten
pound euro note that she gave him. He walks into
the cafe with it in a funny way.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
That man is a robot. Badge for philosophical but by
a woman. I love when women make things. I'll say it.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Movies by women simply are better. And we've serven it
time and time again.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, I really I was very interested in all the
things that this was sort of chewing on, and it
was just sort of like a nice slow movie where
you could think about stuff and nothing grotesque happened. It
just made you sit and think, which I love.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, and I like that it asks these big questions
and then it presents you with kind of an answer
for just one person, where it's like this is her
general opinion on it, and also like she is flawed
and for her specifically, like she is going to keep
this robot yea because she loves him. He rocks, She rocks,
(42:45):
he does rock.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He's fun. I'm sorry. Also was like robots aren't real,
they don't have souls, bla blah blah blah. He was
standing with a bunch of deer and was like, hey,
they can't smell me. I can just stand with them,
Like I'm sorry, that's a vibe.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's absolutely yeah. If he doesn't have a soul, he
at least has a vibe. Okay, a badge for Dan
Stevens having a bath when he draws that romantic bath
and he's like ninety three percent of German women dream
of this, and she's like, okay, I don't and then
he just takes the bag and is like huh. I
loved that. Was that your last wrong. Oh and then
(43:24):
oh gosh, it looks like most of my badges are
about Dan Stevens. Okay, my final badge is for Dan Stevens.
Looks so good in this shade of blue. The outfit
he's wearing when they're lying in the meadow. Oh, navy blue.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I love that meadow scene.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
He's so hot to me? Yeah, is he hot to you?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
He's not my type, but a little bit.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Have you seen him in Eurovision? No?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh? I saw him in Dalton Abbey And now seeing
him and anything else is like extra fun because he
was had to be so serious in that, so like
when he's being like a goofy guy.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh, you've got to see Eurovision. Okay, Well, a song
of Ice and Fire. No, that's the subtitle for Game
of Thrones. It's something like that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Eurovisions those all right trages, hmm, trag Is I just
have one trage, I guess, and it's the okay, well, yeah,
it's just the I wrote sonogram, of course, but we
explained that obviously there's complexities around that, like if you've
(44:45):
experienced this, but it's just the that being the one
way we show that women are allowed to have pain. Yeah,
and it's like like women of that age, it's like
because something's passed from your youth or like what your
life was going to be. I get that it represents
like a life that could have been. But I'm like,
I don't know, maybe that's not the biggest deal to her.
(45:06):
Maybe there's other stuff I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Hmm, yeah, totally agree. My first trage is trag for
I Leanna didn't realize that I had signed up for
this noon gym class, and she's like, to cancel. I
had to pause the movie and go to a gym class. Really,
you went, yeah, I had to go otherwise the charge
(45:29):
of fee or you like penalized.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I thought that's what you were gonna say, is that
you were charge to fee, But no, I would never
do that. What is it that your dentist told you?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Again? Oh, I was exceptionally complicit? Complicit? Yeah, the worst
worst adjective. I mean, hello, talking about like a German.
I was gonna say, you never want to be described
as exceptionally complicit, but she was talking about wearing my retainers.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Uh Oh. A trage for the classic game of are
those coffee cups empty? And the answer is always.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, when they're drinking from the male.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
If a character on screen has a coffee cup, that
cup is empty and you can tell from the way
they fling it around.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's the same with a suitcase. Oh my god, they're
like speed and zooming through with a suitcase.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Come on, guy with one pinky. Yeah, come on. Yeah,
oh trage for dead mom. Her dad is alive, but
her mom. Oh yeah, he's like, I wish I'd love
to have met her. I'm like, uh, all right. Also,
oh my god, her dad got robbed. And that was
just like kind of a small scene.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, that cop was insane. That cop is like, yeah,
the stupid criminals robbing somebody.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Really, that is how a German police officer someone. I
think Germans are very direct as a general generalization. Totally
a trage for they didn't quite get the lighting right
with that cgi oh with the deer, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yes, that was strange.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It was odd. My Oh is this a final trage? Yes, ma,
my final trage is oh, for god's sake, a sonogram
shut up.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Okay, I'm glad we felt the same way about that.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, this is I found that really annoying.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
People like us who have watched a billion movies in
a row. It's just like, Wow, this this woman is
really struggling. It's so cool to see a woman, just
a grown woman, kind of struggle with life because life
is hard. And then it's like there's a reason, there's
actually a really big reason, and she can't be a mother.
It's fertility. She's not really open because guess what, I'm
a girl.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, like, oh my god, the one thing everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Right, Can it just be that, like you're just embarrassed
about your general life or something like that, like minor,
all vague, minor, a vague anxiety general. It's the vagueness
that makes them so, that makes them, Yeah, so worrisome.
M h. Anyway, let women be vague.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yes, it's like a blurry poster. Okay, well Leonna, Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Shall I move on to our next segment, which is,
of course, how to pretend you've seen this film. This
is before You're going on a nice hike out in nature.
It is gorgeous. You're going on a hike, you see
a deer, you go, wow, a deer, and then you
see a poorly lit man standing right next to it.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah. Yeah, and I'm not quite calibrated. Yet Tom comes
up to you and says, be boop, hello, Wow, I
read in your file. I didn't have time to process
all of your file, so the only thing I saw
on it was film. And I've downloaded a full catalog
(48:56):
of movies that i'd now like to speak with you about,
beginning No the film ikbin dyne Mensch, because of course
there's a deer in a forest, and I'm gonna tell
you everything about my philosophy no ikbin dyne mensch and
right now.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
And in order to in order to shut down Tom
and all of his opinions, here are a few things
that you can say to pretend you've seen the film.
I'm your man.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Mmm, yeah, Tom, I've seen ichbin dyne mench. I what
I was saying previously before you interrupted me in my
Forest of Deer was after I finished the film, I
went to YouTube to watch interviews with the cast because
I wanted to watch Dan Stevens be Charming in English,
and found that all the interviews were on zoom, and
(49:47):
then was fascinated by my gut reaction of no longer
wanting to watch them because what I wanted to see
was him and his co star interacting physically next to
one another. Oh, yeah, something we lost in the pandemic
for a long time and haven't necessarily fully regained.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. We're never gonna
be right.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
That's interesting, Like you do lose something when you're not
physically with someone, they.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Don't get to like, look and do their That's the
whole thing is when they're doing press events together, they
get to like, Oh, that's why we're watching them in
the first place, to watch people be charming and like
each other. Yes, Tom, I have seen the film. Yes, Tom,
(50:36):
I have seen the film I'm Your Man. I was
thinking about. Her name is Alma, which means soul in Spanish,
and uh hmmm, that could be alluding to the concept
of of the soul and who has it and what
doesn't that she has a soul and Tom does not,
which is funny. Alma means soul and Tom means no soul.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Tom Tom means Thomas. Yes, Tom, I've seen I'm Your Man.
I was absolutely My mind was blown. And this is
just my American ass being an American. When she asked
(51:19):
him why the English accent, and I said, oh, I'd.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Never have known.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Oh that he was speaking German with an English accent.
I know that is how could we know? Yes, Tom,
I have seen the film I'm Your Man. This film
was nominated for a ton of awards.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Wow, it won a lot of them. Wow, this was
like really made a splash in twenty twenty one. But
one of them that was a nominated for is called
the Golden Bear. How fun is that? And it won
for Best Leading Performance with the main actress, Oh Slave.
I really like her.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, I thought she was great. She also she was
skinny in that German way where it seems like this
has just happened because of your lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
They're kind of like it's like kind of athletic kind
of yeah, like I bet you were really you'd be
really good at running.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
And you know it's just because of your life's that
you're not like I go out and I run on purpose.
It's just like, yeah, I live a German life.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
I also think I appreciated her because she has like
curly ish hair and that's very relatable.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Definitely, Yes, Tom, I've seen ibin dyne Mensch. And I'm
going to leave this conversation now because, as the therapist
Robot said, at the very beginning. When happiness knocks at
your door, you should open it and leaving this conversation
would make me very happy.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Alfrieder Zan Frita Jay so hard for me to say, yes, Tom,
I have seen the film I'm Your Man. Dan Stevens
is fluent in German, which is very believable from this
is his second German film after Hilda two thousand and nine,
(53:16):
and he is the only English actor in this film.
They really wanted to talk about him. And finally Marin Eggert,
who is the main person, is also in a movie
called called A Decent Man and a movie called I
Was at Home Comma.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
But that sounds like a movie from when they first
started making.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Movies, Yeah it does. I was at home?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
But love that me talking about my weekend to any
of my colleagues. Well, I was at home but.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Ah well, le honest. Should we move on to our
next segment, which is, of course should you watch this
or in which we tell you if you should watch
this film or if you should do something else with
your precious time. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, bita, I would say absolutely, you can watch Ibin
din Mensh or I'm Your Man. I really liked it
and I think it asks interesting questions. It doesn't feel
like a slog. No one is really suffering greatly in it.
I mean, people have like sadness and whatnot, but you're
not witnessing like atrocities being done.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I would say, hell, y'all, Sianna, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I feel exactly the same way. I recommend this movie.
I thought it was fun, it's not too long, it's
it's chill, and the acting's good and yeah, I just
really enjoyed it. I felt good after watching it. Mm
hmm woo great rerect Lehanna, what are you gonna rate
this film? Girly Pop?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Honestly, I might rate this film five communal Deer out
of thought. I kind of can't fault it. I enjoyed
watching it a lot. I thought it was a quiet
and reflective and interesting movie.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Totally, Lenna, what would you rate it? I'm gonna give
this movie five menches out of five. Yeah, I agree
with all that. And I think there's something about when
I watch a movie. Pretty much what I want is
to spend time in beautiful but a very specific type
of like nature beautiful type of home where the light
(55:37):
is streaming in in just the most pleasant way I
can imagine. And this is one of those movies that
gave me that Oh there's only like a handful of it.
Whoo yeah, so I really liked it. Oh yay, yay
sci fi by women, Yay women women. Thank you everybody
(56:01):
so much for listening. This is to Toss Popcorn. We
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(56:21):
will be taking a hiatus for the month of August
because Leanna has to go do comedy things in Edinburgh.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Every damn day, every damn.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Monday, exceptionally complicit. She's gonna be great at this.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Hey, how Hey, it's true.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
So follow her on Instagram watch her journey, and follow
Sienna to watch her Journeyoo.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
God, two women going on separate journeys. Exciting and we'll
be Macia in September. Oh my gosh, yay.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
We love you.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
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and at Leanna Holsten. Please check the description for the
spelling of our dumb names. We put out episodes every Tuesday,
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