July 22, 2025 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, I'm Sienna.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And welcome to Toss Popcorn. The podcasts where two idiots
watched every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American
Movies of All Time, the Very slightly Less Racist tenth
Anniversary edition, and have now decided to watch movies directed
by women only.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
This podcast is a safe search for people who don't
know anything about movies. Today, we're watching Winter's Bones? What
are we? How are we going to do with you?
Kind of girl? Kill Me? I guess a movie that
we will explain the origin behind momentarily warning there will
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be spoilers about this Appalachian old film.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yes, yeah, let us please explain.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think now is the time to explain how this
got on the list, and at this time in particular.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, we watched Wayne's World last time, and as you remember,
Wayne's World is originally an SNL sketch, and for example,
they came on later m hm, you explained the rest.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In twenty eleven, SNL did an Oscar's special and Wayne's
World did the Cold Open. The Cold Open sketch was
a Wayne's World sketch where they're talking about the movies
that are up for Oscar nominations, and they say there's
a movie nominated this year called Winter's Bone, and then
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three times in a row they turn straight to camera
and they go Winter's Bone. And you also knew about this, right?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes? Yeah, that's all. Yeah one. That's also the one
I think where they say, so who's on Firth? Yes,
I remember going, that's a really good joke. I thought that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I watched the sketch again today and had that same thought.
I just haven't writing to be able to explain it.
But Wayne's World.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But that also was one of my first experiences of
Wayne's World.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, okay, yeah, So somehow this implanted in both our
memories for both of these films, and they are now
forever late.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's true, it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So we did a double feature of Wayne's World and
Winter's Bone. Oh boy, And I'll say it. They don't
go together.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
They have a few things in common. One knew about
the other.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
One, Yeah, talks about anything besides the Wayne's World mentions
about this movie a.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Clip of it in a screenwriting class. My memory of
that clip was completely wrong. I don't remember who was talking.
I couldn't tell you which scene it was in the movie.
I pictured that it covered in snow.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Me too, how weird.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's because it's winter.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Winter, It's bone. Yeah, it's bone. So please hear your
prediction for Winter's Bone.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You can't Winter's Bone, Winter's Bone. Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna.
I'm about to watch Winter's Bone. I think in this
movie it's going to be sort of cool colors. The
whole time it wasn't. It was probably gonna be sad
and sort of tragic. And I think either it has
to do with Foster care or Jennifer Lawrence has siblings.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's true, something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, I love you, goodbye. Oh I remember clearly. I
remembered vaguely that she had siblings, and that that proved
to be true. That proved to be actually much truer
than I could have imagined.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That was absolutely a huge part of the story. Yep,
a driving force behind her actions. Yeah, one could.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Say, well, I'd love to hear your prediction, Leanna.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, queen here it is okay, Hi Sienna, Yanna, I'm
about to watch winterspoone. I don't know anything about this
except Jylaw is in it and a pass. It's intense
and I think I've seen one clip where it's wintertime. Yeah,
and I think she says kill me. I guess, oh yeah, honestly, mood,
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I predict I'm gonna have a bad time of you by.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. People were so mean to each other.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
No one was happy to see this girl.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, before we start talking about the movie that we watched,
let's talk about us.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Absolutely, Hey girl, Hey, Hey, what's up? Hey? Did I
tell you? My flatmate and I got an intense and
we no, have you been playing Kirby for hours? We
have been playing Lego Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, the Lego games are lit.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They are lit really hard. Yeah, we're not good at it.
I haven't gotten Kirby. Our true dream, of course, is
to get Mario Kart with the wheels, but everything is
secondhand because it's the Wii, so we're kind of just
scraping together whatever we find here and there. That is, so,
if anybody has a lead on Mario Kart with the
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wheels and also one nunchuck and one motion sensor attachment,
as we only have one of each of those right now,
we'd love that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my God, I'm just you have no idea how
happy I have to hear this.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Thank you. I told a colleague about it this week
and she was like, that's genius, because it's it really is,
like you forget that you can just get a Wii.
You can go out and get your yourself a Wii
and then play the Wii in your home. That hasn't
that is still something that is available to us. We
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haven't lost.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
How did you think to do that?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We've been talking about it for months, and then over
the course of one long weekend, we kept talking about
the Wii and I looked up on this secondhand website
we Nintendo Wii, and there was one that had just
been listed the day before, no Way, and we went
we took from Hackney. Yes, we wow. We are always wigging.
(06:36):
This is so exciting. What a wonderful update. I'm starting
to get like a little callous on my thumb from
the chuck.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You're a gamer, I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
A gamer girl. Absolutely. We can't technically play my my
all time favorite game of Kirby Air Ride because that
actually is a game cube game, but you can play
on the Wii, but then you'd need game cube controls.
It'd be it's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's a whole thing for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah. Yeah, that's hey girl.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Heye girl, I am. I am hot in in puppet
building waters because we're going I tell you, we're going
to a music festival. We're going to Outside Lands in
the Bay Area, and we're also we're also going to
be doing puppets for the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like the fuck.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So the people who do this Bay Area h music festival,
I guess they also do the Grateful Dead the weekend before.
But wow, yeah, I'm actually really excited. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I know, so are you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's like for their festival, So it's not like we're
doing it. It's not like we're we made puppets and
are coordinating with the band for their Grateful it's like
between it. But of all of all the bands, who's
festival matters, it's kind of their whole.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I feel like the puppets are very in line
with the Grateful Dead, were of both.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yes, that's that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Too, Okay, great, wow, anyway, Yeah, I'm so excited. Giant
Sleigh and then I made a car for my friend
who's did a fairis Bueller costume.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh yeah, a company thing this weekend or today, and
I was pretty proud of it. And then immediately when
I was about to hand it to her, a wheel
popped off, and I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I apologize, but I was.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I gave her a major friend discount, so kind of
the trade off was that I got to experiment as
much as I wanted. And it's not going to have.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
All the wheels.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I experimented with the wheels in that they weren't fully on.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean it's not meant to be an operational vehicle.
I assume that's okay. Was it one of those like
she's wearing the car.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
With her, she's wearing the car.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Cute. Cute.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, it's cute. So anyway, Uh, my body is tired.
But I'm I'm I'm I'm excited about all that. I
do need to get a respirator because I will be
the cause of my own death if I don't do that.
It's just like these are toxic.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh god, Oh no, it's okay. You're just inhaling asbestive?
Is that? Yeah, you're just cutting up old walls.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I mean like kind of there's it's sort of like,
if you're doing it this frequently, you just genuinely have
to be masked up because hmm, there's just so much stuff,
little stuff flying, rat particles, but a lot of particles.
Soon I'll be the grateful dead, not worrying about a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Where well, speaking of someone who is almost the cause
of their own yes, yes, Sienna, could you please give
us a synopsis?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Really by us, I mean me, because what happened in
this Okay, I actually think I figured in this bone.
Oh thank god, I.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Think I figured it out. But then by the time
I got to the end, I didn't mention a lot
of characters, and I'm like, I don't think they might.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think that's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, Winter's Bone. At seventeen years old, Ree Dolly is
the functioning adult of her household, raising her two young
siblings and caring for her catatonic mom. And as you said,
this is all in Appalachia. Well, it turns out her
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dad put their house up for bond, and so she
either has to find him within the week or later
on in the movie, prove that he's dead also within
the week. The theme of this rural Appalachian community is
to keep your damn mouth shut. And when she keeps
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going around poking through things looking for her meth cooking
dad who was murdered, people get literally so mad at her.
Oh Man in the end, in a wild turn of events,
and I'm sorry squeamish warning trigger warning. Yeah, she impresses
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people enough with her gall that the people who murdered
him let her saw the hands off of her dead
her father's dead body, which had been placed in the river,
so she can take them to the cops and they
keep the house right the end, Boy, was that a surprise?
I said, is this the Winter's Bone? It was quite discussed.
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You'll see something like that, but like her uncle's in it,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, tear her uncles yes, teer yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And other characters. Yeah, people are really mad. And I
was like, why are they so mad? And then I
was like, oh, they killed her death, that's why they're
so proud. Yeah, that'll do it. The end.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hooray, Well, Leanna, I would love.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
To just jump right into our phone.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Notes, please and thank you. This is the segment of
the podcast where we look at the notes the other
person took on their phone while watching the Winter's Bone, Siena,
what your first note is, I'm just peering smiley face.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
This was just when I understand when when they first start,
she is she can't go to school because she's doing
so much. She's still here the whole household. She goes,
she drops her she drops her siblings off, and then
she goes to every high school class and she goes,
what's going on in here? Oh, you're marching around, You're
marching around? Hi, what's going on in here? She peers.
(13:04):
She's really just she's a peeping tom and nobody for learning,
for education m M, no one notices. Yeah, but I
really was like, I feel like this is a week
where I again building dumbass puppets and trying to literally
yesterday I literally tried to send one email for about
an hour and a half. Yeah, but it was an
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email that I had to like go find an old
resume and change it, and it's like, I'm not gonna
do it takes so you know, it just takes so long,
and I'm like, whoa, I'm sorry, that's a lot to
ask me to do. I don't have time to be
in school right now. Yeah, And I'm like, that's with
my stupid life, and she is caring for everybody in
her household and trying not to get the house taken away. Like,
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I get it. She really can't be at that place. Yeah,
it does sound like the waste of time.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
She cannot do basketball practice.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, or the gun carrying practice or whatever that was.
J R O TC Oh, yeah, j R O DC.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I can't I have gun carrying practice. I have to
practice carrying all my guns. There's so many of them.
How can I carry all of them?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I got a practice.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I have to practice.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Leanna, your first notes, I'm going to read a few.
You've said, Okay, singing, who is singing?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think Jennifer Right at the beginning, she's singing to
her siblings.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Ah, there was some badass singing in this film. Actually,
sur Appalachian music slaps. It's really really good. Then you've said, dang,
I want a trampoline, and then soon after that you
said the dog does not die smiley face. Yeah, they
treated their dogs while in this film. That dog Uh yeah,
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good dog. And then yeah, that trampoline looked lit. When
she's riding a horse on that trampoline. She's riding her
little horses on that trampoline.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh, I know, and I have a note about that
as well. I want, I yearn for a trampoline. I
once did a trampoline exercise class here in London, and
I was like, this is gonna be so fun. This
is going to harken back to childhood.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, it was so hard. That does sound really hard.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I literally thought it was gonna be like, let's all
just bounce around for one hour, and then it was
like get your knees up to your chest and then
back down in the span of one second. What And
I said, we used to be We used to be proper.
It used to be fun. I used to enjoy living.
What the hell is this? How did you manage to
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make the trampoline unenjoyable? Yeah, you know, I also want
to see trampoline.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Did you have a trampoline?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Bounce?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Did you have a trampoline?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, but a friend of mine did and I was
always happy to be on it.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I adore the trampoline.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh my gosh. My family had a trampoline for a time.
Oh I kind of I kind of feel bad for
my mom because we did like it and use it,
but like she definitely got it because she was like,
oh my god, I always dreamt of having a trampoline.
I'm gonna get trampoline for my kids. Like I like, guys,
we're getting a trampoline. And I was probably maybe just
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starting high school or in middle school. We're just not
the most adventurous outdoorsy kids.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't see any of you going off about having
a trampoline.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We used, we liked it, we used. It was fun
to do with my friends sometimes. But like I just
even at the time, I was like, oh my god,
I am not appreciating this nearly enough because I know
that this is amazing. It's like having a pool, But
I'm like, I, ah.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's like when I watched Thorki. It was very the same. Well,
you were stood straight up, directly, directly down at it
while it was staring smiling up at you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think we're like, ah, there's something about the Corgi
being the royal dog. I don't feel comfortable around them.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's the first valid argument that you've made about that
whole situation. And it's been years.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't feel comfortable around that kind of dog. Yeah,
And it's been years.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You've had years to prepare that defense. I don't believe
it for a second. Did I tell you my brother
once got chased around a trampoline by a giant dog.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, that's a very precarious position to be. And he's
between a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
There was literally a rock very near the trampoline. It
was a big concern. This was at like our childhood
friend's house, and they had this mastiff, which is a
famously huge dog called Hamlet, and we put Hamlet on
the trampoline. Dog perfect name for a dog. We put
Hamlet on the trampoline with Benjamin, and then Hamlet started
chasing ben around in circles.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I love a trampoline.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That is so funny. There's so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Everybody's so mad at you. I'm sorry, take a beat
while we listened to some ads. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
This is so funny. Okay, Siana, two two of your
notes in a row. I actually have missed who everyone
is to each other in this crap.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Like who is this?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So I felt the whole time. The whole time, I
was like, ooh, I'm I'm actually losing my grasp quick.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I also was not I was watching this. I was
watching this on a projector using a PlayStation and I
didn't know what remote to use, and I just didn't
have the ability to rewind. And I was like, you
know what, I'm just gonna like sink into that situation.
And there were a lot of times where I went, oh, shoot,
what did they say? I would love to rewind right now.
But with all that ability.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
About how they were all sort of related.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, and it's like small town community whatever. But she
would go to some people's houses and it was if
they lived really far away and they were so mad
to see her and they're like, why am I Why
am I even seeing you? I'm like, they must live
really far away. But then they came to her house
later out of anger, really soon. And then as soon
as she gets home her her uncle comes and is like,
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everybody told me that you've been talking. And I've seen
this in like small town content. Small town content tends
to express see yeah, this uh this phenomenon of everybody
tells everybody everything right away. But I'm like that was really.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Fast fast, yeah yeah, and yeah, like when she goes
to Thump's house and he's like, I heard you need this,
and I'm like, she just got there.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, did you hear I don't know, maybe they're all
I aming, Leonna. You said, I'm just trying to perceive
this quote. You said, never ask for what ought to
be offered me in my dating life. I can't perceive
that quote right now. What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
He's like, should we go ask them for some of
their meat? And she's like, over ask for what ought
to be offered? And I was like, hell, yeah, that's
just that's something I'm going through right now. I'm in
a space of I will not be initiating anything for
probably a decade or so. Romantically speaking, I'm not asking for,
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not asking for I'm getting. I wrote something down like
the next line, there's a quote. The next line, Oh, you.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Said, brought you some meat? Me and who knock knock
brought you some meat.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Finally, I'm not asking for what ought to be given,
So someone bring me their meat?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Me and who oh me and who.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
They're at my door? Brought you some meat?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Finally?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Oh oh, Siena. You asked, Leanna, have you ever been
around hunting or hunting culture?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah? I are you aware of this? This cultured anyway?
Do you get Colorado? Is there hunters?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah? I've been on hikes where it's hunting season, and
there are signs up saying where bright colors that sort
of thing. And you'll hear gunshots off in the distance
in Colorado and in England when I go for my
long countryside rambles, where inevitably I accidentally trespass on someone's property,
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I'll sometimes hear gunshot.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh my god, not.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
At me to my knowledge, but I think people I
don't know if they're hunting or if they're I don't
know what they're up to with their guns, but you
do hear gunshots. And sometimes when you're in like a
wealthy area, it does feel like you're being hunted for sport.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh my gosh, I was gonna say it, like that
is thing. I think of that as the posh yeah,
posh thing, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The but then I think also farmers will have guns,
right like if they have to ward anything away from
their sheep or anything like that, they'll have guns.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, this is how you this is how I'm understand
hold on, I have to say this is I'm understanding
that there's like the Dalton Abbey, British would like go
on a fancy hunting trip, and that's why we have
so many we have so many weird British Victorian pies
that I watched them make on the internet because it's like, oh,
they made this pigeon pigeon foot pie, which actually exists,
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and they'll have it after hunting. And then also they
need to you know, shoot like the the Beatrix Potter
animals to stop eating their lettuce and stuff. Also British.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh my god, Oh my god, that's the grimmest way
you could have.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I have to put it in British context for myself.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh my god, those are the cutest iterations of all
of those animals. Well that's what the little bunny, that's
what they're trying to show. And goslings.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Those are the animals they're shooting. I hate to tell
it to you.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
They do not come over here. I don't trust you
over here.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I don't I'm saying I don't want them to shoot them.
They are shooting the Beatrix Potter animals.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They shouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
The Beatrix Potter animals are very safe. They're fine.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Everybody. All animals in all animals in England are the
Beatrix Potter animals, so be careful. My no, I haven't
been around hunting. I'd say even less so because that
Colorado explanation you just gave would be very novel to me.
I did once do a puppet show, Oh mad hunting lodge?
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Did I ever tell you about what? No, because one
of our.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Packs of dermied animals as puppets, I think you take
a moose head off.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The wall, but honestly, we should have. It's the pipeline
of wealthy dad art daughter. Means that sometimes some of
the some of the parents, the parents of the kids
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in our of our puppet group, there's conservative parents, Oh
my god, and they're like, I want my daughter to
come and do a thing at the hunting lodge. No, unfortunately,
that is the pipeline.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So how was it received.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It was very weird. The people attending the hunting lodge
were all like, it was my friends, my friend has
access to the hunting lodge kind of because of the
conservative side of the family, and that that that is true.
That is true, But it was her more liberal mom
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who was having the party. But it was weird that
she chose to do it at the hunting lodge. But
so the people at the party were kind of down
with it, but it felt extremely out of place, and
I remember observing that the things that were I thought
there would be more of like a I'm like, well,
we as like liberal city folk are like judging the
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hunting thing. But I'm sure there's more of sort of
a spiritual element and a survival element. And it's not
like they're just like celebrating just killing an animal. It's like,
you know, it's like living off the land. And but
when I got there, it was a lot more just
celebrating killing animals than I expected. I was like, oh, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's it's very like manhath dominion over nature.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I was kind of I was waiting for to
be quite different than that. Anyway, it was interesting, but
I think that's it. That's even much different part than
kind than in this because in this they don't have
time for.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah no, absolutely not, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Leanna, Yeah, you said the thing about Appalachian music is
that it slaps this woman. This woman, This woman's voice
was one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard,
And I remember thinking, imagine having this gift, Imagine walking
around life knowing I have a gift of magic so
deep inside of my of my vocal chords and I
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can break it out any moment I want.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I know there's something about that kind of music that's
very akin to like Irish folk music. It just hits
you deep down and you're like, I love this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, this slaps. It's playing to the whatever rhythm
is within all of us.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Ooh humans, Okay, gorgeous Sienna. You've asked Leanna, what's your
relationship to Hey, I found you might I thought you
might have one.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I would like to know. I feel like you.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Think I was raised in a barn.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, I don't think that. I do think that it's
possible that you've been on a horse multiple times. That
is true.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I've told you about the time I sobbed on a horse, right, yes,
well you have to tell me again because it was
going so fast.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's one of the funniest images I've ever been granted,
I've ever been gifted in my life a horse.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm glad it yielded some good eventually.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
A horse riding at full speed and a terrified girl
on top going because imagining someone standing still and that
horse rushing by and just here. I am sorry for
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you that it was terrifying. But oh boy, is that
is that funny for me?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hey? You know, comedy is tragedy plus time and now
here I am anyway visa VI. Hey, it definitely makes
me think of horses and my specific horse memories. Oh,
that makes it sound like I was a horse for
a period of time and I had could be memories
from when I was a horse.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I would accept it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
No, I would accept you. I don't know, it's too
itchy for me. Oh, what's your relationship to Hey?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
We used to go to like, there was a place
called Reremling or farms growing up, the little like farm
you'd go to and like hang out. And there's a
video of me of me jumping and not understanding the
height of things because I was so young, jumping and
absolutely starfishing pancake face first into a bail of hay.
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Just absolutely, I jump and I go flat and it's
really funny and that's mainly what I think of.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Wow, thank you for that image.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Thank you for gifting me with that image.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'll find the video at some point and send it
to you, because it is. It's a fail.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh my god, oh my knee that I've made for
the Wii. Oh yeah, I named it. Hey, no way,
I just remember it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah. Hey, hey, h y okay, hey hey Leana, you
said I have muted the film. Oh when she was
getting beat up.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
How are you feeling about this, Leanna? I thought we
were talking about that. Oh, we'll get to that in
a second. I muted the film certainly many times. I
definitely muted it when she was getting beat up. Before that,
I muted it when the cows were really stressed out.
There's no need for me to watch that. And I
muted it when somebody brought out an axe. And then
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absolutely the hand scene. Yeah, I said, oh, I'm gonna
need to not hear that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I guess we should talk about that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It was very loud. It was just the sound of
a chain saw.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
A chainsaw is probably one of the loudest.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It was extremely loud.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hmm. That couldn't have been worse as a circumstance.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
That. Oh was crazy. I just didn't expect it. This
is a moment where I went, oh, I think this
was a book, because that seems like something that they
would have as a climax of a book and maybe
a movie as well. But like the tone shift of
like Okay, you gotta chop some hands off now.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I was like, no, yeah, it was gore in a
way that there hadn't been gore.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah. It wasn't really like a horror movie before that.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
No, and it was horrific.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
For that scene, I was like, interesting, I mistakenly thought
she had won an Oscar for this. She'd just been
she was just nominated, she'd been nominated, and I was
kind of like, yeah, I mean I think she's doing
a great job. But and then the boat scene happened,
and even watching it on mute, I was like, oh,
she's good, hey girl, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, I think she's a good actress.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think she's great.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Oh I think, well she's red her a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Me too, Okay, I think yeah, I'm a big fan
of her vibe.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I don't know why it's called Winter's Bone.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh well, that was where my note came in of
I wonder why it's called Winter's Bone. And then they
showed up at her door and they were like, we're
gonna take you to your dady's bones. And I was like, oh, well,
bones in the winter.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, was it winter because there was not any snow,
but they were all wearing beanies.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Beanies, and there were no leaves on the trees. Good point,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Wow, nice observation.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But I also recover. I recalled there being a heavy
snow in summary I had of the clip, but I
guess we just implied that. I remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
They were all moving through glizards, like, oh, it's so
much snow.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's like frozen.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And I thought there was like a Snowman character. Yeah,
it's like wait.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, And a child was singing do you want to
build a snow yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And another one was singing was singing, I'm walking there.
You know that song?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
No, what is that from the.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Snowman? I think it's called the Snowman. It's the little
like Welsh short. It's like a Welsh animated short.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Is the one where the Snowman is kind of scary looking?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, and it flies and the boy goes, I'm flying through.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was amazing to watch your whole face and body
pause to hit that R.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's awesome. It's really weird. It's like nobody wants this,
nobody wants this content. But I watched it recently randomly
for a joke, and I went, this is kind of
lit cute? Uh, speaking of something being kind of lit?
You said, who sees a trailer for this and is like,
I want to watch that? Great point, great question. I
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just even though there was good acting, like I thought
she acted well, and I didn't. I didn't like. I
wasn't throughout this movie going oh I hate this, like
I think it was. It was good and I can
see it as well directed. I don't know. I didn't.
I was pretty neutral on it. I'd say, but I
guess because I expected this vibe as well. But but
I would never choose to watch this film if it
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wasn't something that we Uh, this.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Is what I don't understand. I'm like, who sees the
trailer for a movie like this and is like, Oh,
I'm gonna need to go and see that, yeah, in theaters?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't. Maybe my dad, I think she watched it,
because I remember him saying I think I saw the
clip of it during the Oscars and we were watching
as a family, and I remember him saying that Jennifer
Lawrence was really good in it and that it was
really intense. But when did my dad watch it?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Your dad?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I gotta see Winter's Bone I'm gonna go see Winter's Bone.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Maybe it was on the TV. I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, I thought we're on TV. I could see watching
it then. And then the only other reason I'd watched
this is if somebody was like, we're gonna watch all
the Oscar Noms. That's how I see movies like this,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, but before that happens, like before it gets nominated,
who is the target audience?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Is it Dad's I think so? And you know, there's
there's shows like True Detective and stuff. I feel like
those people like it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But that's like, that's a clear mystery. I mean, I
guess this was billed as a thriller, but it's not
a class like a standard thriller in the way that
movie thrillers are.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I know. I didn't know it was a mystery
until I started watching it. Then I went, they don't
know where the dad is. Yeah, Leanna, your final notes
are you're gonna need to reach down and tug them up.
I am not doing that. And then your final note
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is okay watching the SNL sketch smiley face.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I had to cleanse the palace and also double check
that we hadn't imagined this Wayne's world, which winters. If
you have a dog to cuddle during three minutes, I
would recommend taking this time to do so while we
have an outbreak.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Wait, Leanna, you want to move on to our next segment?
Oh my god, yeah, this is their next segment, Badges
and Trages, where we tell you nope, where we give
badges and autopilot, where we give badges for bones and
trages for uh, turs come a win. Yes, bones and
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turs come a win. Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
My first badge is for so many dogs.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, there was a dog within seconds of this that
I went, this is gonna be good for Leanna.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I didn't write stack does thedog die dot com just
to double check, and then I felt comfortable that's wise.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I will say badge for I do enjoy watching sort
of the small town content thing or country content in
movies because I am just sort of an ignorant city
slicker and it's, uh, it's like an interesting it's an
interesting world. I go, wow, that's crazy. WHOA that sounds intense.
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Oh my god, everybody knew that that's crazy. Wow. I
could never do that to a squirrel. Oh my god.
So in that way it's entertaining.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I have musication film at that point as well.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
That was disgusting. That was really gross.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, badge for I love these dogs. When they were
all out on a.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Walk, that's wonderful. Badge for this woman has such a
pretty voice. When they went and there was that band
or just friends playing music, I was in awe. I
really really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Badge for all the dogs.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I loved all that they're kept being new dogs and
I was so excited.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
That is I'm really happy for you. Oh, I wrote
badge for bed. Actually, after she gets all beat up,
I was like, that's horrible, But they actually take a
moment to just like clean her up and like get
her all snug in bed, and then her siblings get
in bed with her, and I was just like, oh,
it looks so nice to be comfy and like cared
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for after all of this that she's been through.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But then I think they give her oxy content.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, that I think I kind of blocked that out.
That was yeah, you know what's.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It was kind of like a blink and you'll miss it,
but if you're attuned to it, it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Show, well I noticed that, and I was like, wow,
they must have a good reason for giving her that,
because that's a really bad idea.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Dang. And now that I think it's been heavily beaten.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, now I think back on it, though, I think
they were just like, yeah, there's a lot of that people,
you're taking it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's in the community. Yikes. A badge for old husky.
When she goes to see her uncle and maybe aunt,
it's an incredibly old husky who takes a long time
to stand up and look around. And I said, I
love you.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I'm so happy for you about this. I give a
badge for no weird sex stuff. Id K. I wrote
that down because her being a seventeen year old like
wandering around, she's really vulnerable. And that's kind of like stated.
But I'm glad they never showed that through like any
weird like uh yeah, you know, attacking her in any
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ways like that besides just beating her up.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, but even that it was by another woman.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
They literally were like all just actually doing that. And
that's another one of those like I actually appreciated because
sometimes in movies, especially movies that a lot of men
are involved with as we've seen, the only way that
they show that that somebody's vulnerable is by like attacking
them in some like yeah, sexually violent life. And it
just was it was actually very comforting that wasn't a
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part of this. Yeah, seventeen year old on her own.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
A badge for how stubborn she is. I liked this
character and that she was like, well, I'm obviously going
to go like, look at that exploded meth lab. She
was my dad's body is there?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I liked. I like the cut of her jibs.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, I liked.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I liked her too. She was really good at teaching
her siblings stuff. She really did. She really did keep
her mouth shut. Every They'd be like, she's gonna talk,
and her allies were like, she's not gonna say a
damn thing.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
She didn't. She would she she'll sass you to your face,
but but she won't say and she'll ask you questions. Yeah,
but once she knows the answers. Yeah. My final badge
is for a cute chick.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Mm hmm. The baby baby birds.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, the baby birds. For what a cute chick? The
baby birds? Yeah, baby.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
My final badge is a badge for a doggy cuddle.
Her younger brother is cuddling a dog at one point,
and I said.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Ah, oh wow, I'm so pleased for you.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, good good dog in this film and thank god trudges. Yeah,
oh a trage close up cutting something with a knife.
She's cutting potatoes just in her hands. And whenever somebody
shows a close up of anything like that on camerasing,
because you're afraid, I get, I get nervy.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Nervy. Trage for everyone is being so mean. People's attitudes.
They were like barking at each other. She'd get there
and they're like, you don't want to be around here,
get go, get home.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Go on get Yeah. No one was happy to see her. No,
she did not have a warm reception anywhere, straight of
like please please. Everywhere she went they were like, what
are you doing here? Damn?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I hate you.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Trage for it. No, I am not watching this. When
they're peeling a squirrel, Yeah that was crazy. I think
they really peeled that squirrel, Absolutely they did. I'm not
watching that.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Badge for nope. Trage for uh so many people. I decay.
I just the characters and when they I just I
missed a lot of things, and I it was it was.
It was hard to follow in that way, but you know,
I figured it out eventually.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, a trage for sorry gang, but I am not
down for cows in distress. Yeah, I don't want to
see that. I'm a vegetarian for a reason.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Okay, totally totally, and we're all cows in distress right now.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
It's hard to watch, but mm hmm, it's harder to live. Yeah.
My final trash is chopping her dad's hands clean off.
That was crazy. I mean it was all right, I
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don't know, I guess it. Ah, her face that whole time, Yes,
very good acting. Also really funny that she's just like,
oh yeah, I can't look at that understandably. That is
so crazy. Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh, a trage for you spitting out a tooth me
with all my stress streams, my recurring stress dreams of
my teeth falling out. No thank you? Trade for why
is this army guy being so nice?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh my god? He was the most emotionally intelligent person
that was in the whole movie. Honestly, it felt like propaganda.
Even though he was saying, don't join the army.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I was like, I don't. I don't know about this,
and my final trage is for sorry, but I have rights.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I have rights.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm not watching a hand get chain sawed up off
the rest of a body. I have right.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
You can't make me watch that. No, just because you're
a movie, I'm supposed to watch that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Mm hmmm, I don't think putting the film on mute
and I am looking at the New York Times crossword.
That's the end of my tragedy.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Well, Leanna, let's move on to our next segment, which is,
of course, how to pretend you've seen this film.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
This is for you are smoking a dooby on your.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Walk, smoking a dooby on your walk, walking around your neighborhood,
minding your own business, and uh, what'd you call tear
drop earlier? Tablecloth?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I tooth bite. I don't tooth bite.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Toothbye walks up to you and says, smoking a doobee.
I see boy. I think I'm gonna tell everybody in
town about this. You nobody cares. It's all good. I
live in a in this in this world, it's legal
for me to be walking around wherever I want. Spoken
to stoby, I'm gonna doube And why why why are
you running your mouth around town and at me? In fact,
(45:08):
stop talking to me, he says. You know, boy, I
just watched this movie that was great. Loved every minute
of it, which had a little bit more action though,
and a little bit more you know.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
It had this cool part at the end with the
hand shopping, but I wish they had more sort of
stuff like that. It's a movie called Winter's Bone. Boy,
I can't wait to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
And in order to blow up tear Drop in a
meth lab related incident, we're gonna give you a few sentences. Sorry,
you can say to pretend you've seen the film Winter's Bone.
Winter's Bone, Yes, Teardrop, I've seen Winter's Bone. In a
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lot of ways, It's not not Hunt for the Wilder People.
There's training a young kid how to use a gun,
leaving off the land of a strong and fairly justified
dislike of law enforcement. Yeah, and a bunch of people
being insane.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Whoa yeah. And in that one they get lost, and
in this one they're trying to find their way out
versus trying to find a guy mm hmm, versus trying
to find their way out of a sticky situation with
the house.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
And in that one the mom dies, and in this
one the dad dies, and in both an animal gets peeled.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Oh my god, this is crazy. I'm not gonna say
any judgments on this. I'm just gonna say what it is.
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, toothache. I've seen tooth bite. I've
seen the film Winter's Bone. Jennifer Lawrence was originally turned
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down for the role for being quote too pretty. I
will say it crossed my mind that this was a
vibe of like they were. It felt like they were
trying to make it not super Hollywood with all the
design and everything. And it's hard for her not to
seem Hollywood, just because I know of her as a
movie star.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
But Jennifer Lawrence was originally turned down for being quote
unquote two pretty. She flew overnight into New York City,
walked thirteen walked thirteen blocks in the sleet to the
casting office, and auditioned with a running nose and hair
that wasn't washed for a week. Cool, Okay, all right.
(47:36):
Lawrence won the role and ultimately her first Academy Award
nomination at twenty years old. I think that it is
awesome how much she wanted it. I think that her
determination is what made her so good at this role,
because her character was very determined. It is very funny
to hear a story it's like this gorgeous actress bravely
made herself ugly.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
For fifteen minutes. I know, I hate when I get
turned down for something because I'm.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Too pretty, But you know, she had She knew that
she had the chops for this, and so she had
to show them that she has balls.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Mm hmmm, yes, to toothpick, tear toothpick, tear drop, tear drop,
to whatever. He's really a teardrop. We've been calling him toothbite.
Oh God, tooth bite. I think I think so tooth bite.
I've seen Winter's Bone. At one point I was watching.
(48:35):
When I was watching this movie on my lunch break,
I asked myself, what is crank? And then realized I
cannot google this on my work computer.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
I also googled it. Did I google it in a
safe browser or whatever, a private browser browser? Or maybe
I just I looked it up in a way where
I said, what is crank? What is the drug? I
tried to make it sound as investigative as possible, not
somebody who wrots historical research. I did not know meth
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was called crank me neither.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, to pick, I've seen Toothbite. I've seen Winter's Bone.
For authenticity purposes, most of the supporting cast were locals.
Rhe's sister was from the area, and indeed, the exterior
of the home in the film was actually her real home.
Oh cool. The clothes were the locals closed and they
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gave them. They traded them new clothes for their clothes
because they're like, can we please use these for the film?
They're better than we'll make. Okay cool. I think that's cool.
I also sometimes wonder if that kind of thing is
a bit voyeuristic of us, as just some of the shots.
I don't know. It's like a love letter to a community.
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But also at the same time, it's like at the
Oscar people watching this, they're like, very good, very good,
very authentic. Oh you took their real.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Pave portrayal of a weird place.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Ugh, Yes, tooth Bite, I've seen Winter's Bone. A man
is talking to me about film again. What can we
do kill me? I guess.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oh. A good final piece of trivia which tells us
about the title. Yes, I have seen the film Winter's Bone.
The title comes from an old Appalachian expression, like a
dog digging after a winter's bone. It's a really good
expression indicating someone who, like Redlly, is on a search
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or quest for something and will not give it up.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Cool. But what is a winter's bone?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I assumed that meant like the ground is really hard
and so it's hard to dig for it, so you
really have to be determined.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Okay, okay, Sienna, let's dig up our segment. Should you
watch this or in which we tell you if we
think you should watch the movie or if you should
do something else with your search?
Speaker 1 (51:15):
What do you think? Leanna M.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't know. I don't. Hey, listen, this film was
not for me, So can I recommend anyone else watch it? No?
What you could do instead is maybe listen to some
Appalachian music, some tunes, some tunes, Oh yeah, because they
(51:47):
are bangers. Sienna, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
That's a great idea. Well, I can see that this
is a good movie. I see why it was nominated.
I think it was well directed, good for the director
that I don't the name of it, was good for Deborah.
I agree that not everybody has to watch This does
(52:10):
not have to be your vibe all the time. I
don't remember Hunger Games really very well, but it feels
really similar in that they probably watched her in this
and went, oh, this girl could be a survival girl
in the Hunger Game.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
True.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
So I would say, depending if you're in the mood
for a survival tale, you can either watch a more
gritty one of Winter's Bone, or you can watch the
Hunger Games. If you want to watch a more insane one,
how about that?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah? Whoa, Leanna? What would you rate this movie knowing
that there are a million dogs but that you hated
everything else, or that the rest is disturbing?
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I know? I would give Winter's Bone two peeled squirrels
out of five. I loved all the dogs, and all
the dogs were treated well and with love, and Jennifer
Lawrence's acting was very good. The rest of it, yeah,
not my cup of tea, totally not. Poor Moir Cianna,
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what would you say?
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I will give Winter's Bone winters Winter's Bone two point
nine be a deer stew's out of five. I I didn't.
I didn't hate watching it. The acting and the there
were like just a lot of people's faces staring and stuff,
(53:32):
and that kind of works for me. I was confused
a lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
And uh, you know, the vibes aren't extremely pleasant, I'll
say that, but yeah, that's okay. I think I think that,
I think that it was a good job and uh,
it's not for us really.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, a good job and not for us.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Well, thank you everybody so much much for listening to
this episode that was That was Winter's Bone, Winter's Bone.
We finally know what it's all about. Mmm. You can
find us at Toss Popcorn on Instagram dot com, where
we post lots of fun stuff. Uh. You can find
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(54:19):
everybody so much for who supports us there. We really
appreciate it makes a big difference. And join us next
week when we will be watching I'm Your Man.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Thank you, We.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
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Speaker 2 (55:05):
Kill Me, I Guess Kill Me, I Guess your Daddy's bones.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
O great
Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, I'm Sienna.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And welcome to Toss Popcorn. The podcasts where two idiots
watched every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American
Movies of All Time, the Very slightly Less Racist tenth
Anniversary edition, and have now decided to watch movies directed
by women only.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
This podcast is a safe search for people who don't
know anything about movies. Today, we're watching Winter's Bones? What
are we? How are we going to do with you?
Kind of girl? Kill Me? I guess a movie that
we will explain the origin behind momentarily warning there will
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be spoilers about this Appalachian old film.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh yes, yeah, let us please explain.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think now is the time to explain how this
got on the list, and at this time in particular.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, we watched Wayne's World last time, and as you remember,
Wayne's World is originally an SNL sketch, and for example,
they came on later m hm, you explained the rest.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In twenty eleven, SNL did an Oscar's special and Wayne's
World did the Cold Open. The Cold Open sketch was
a Wayne's World sketch where they're talking about the movies
that are up for Oscar nominations, and they say there's
a movie nominated this year called Winter's Bone, and then
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three times in a row they turn straight to camera
and they go Winter's Bone. And you also knew about this, right?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes? Yeah, that's all. Yeah one. That's also the one
I think where they say, so who's on Firth? Yes,
I remember going, that's a really good joke. I thought that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I watched the sketch again today and had that same thought.
I just haven't writing to be able to explain it.
But Wayne's World.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But that also was one of my first experiences of
Wayne's World.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, okay, yeah, So somehow this implanted in both our
memories for both of these films, and they are now
forever late.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's true, it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So we did a double feature of Wayne's World and
Winter's Bone. Oh boy, And I'll say it. They don't
go together.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
They have a few things in common. One knew about
the other.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
One, Yeah, talks about anything besides the Wayne's World mentions
about this movie a.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Clip of it in a screenwriting class. My memory of
that clip was completely wrong. I don't remember who was talking.
I couldn't tell you which scene it was in the movie.
I pictured that it covered in snow.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Me too, how weird.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's because it's winter.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Winter, It's bone. Yeah, it's bone. So please hear your
prediction for Winter's Bone.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You can't Winter's Bone, Winter's Bone. Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna.
I'm about to watch Winter's Bone. I think in this
movie it's going to be sort of cool colors. The
whole time it wasn't. It was probably gonna be sad
and sort of tragic. And I think either it has
to do with Foster care or Jennifer Lawrence has siblings.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's true, something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, I love you, goodbye. Oh I remember clearly. I
remembered vaguely that she had siblings, and that that proved
to be true. That proved to be actually much truer
than I could have imagined.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That was absolutely a huge part of the story. Yep,
a driving force behind her actions. Yeah, one could.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Say, well, I'd love to hear your prediction, Leanna.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, queen here it is okay, Hi Sienna, Yanna, I'm
about to watch winterspoone. I don't know anything about this
except Jylaw is in it and a pass. It's intense
and I think I've seen one clip where it's wintertime. Yeah,
and I think she says kill me. I guess, oh yeah, honestly, mood,
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I predict I'm gonna have a bad time of you by.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. People were so mean to each other.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
No one was happy to see this girl.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, before we start talking about the movie that we watched,
let's talk about us.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Absolutely, Hey girl, Hey, Hey, what's up? Hey? Did I
tell you? My flatmate and I got an intense and
we no, have you been playing Kirby for hours? We
have been playing Lego Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, the Lego games are lit.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They are lit really hard. Yeah, we're not good at it.
I haven't gotten Kirby. Our true dream, of course, is
to get Mario Kart with the wheels, but everything is
secondhand because it's the Wii, so we're kind of just
scraping together whatever we find here and there. That is, so,
if anybody has a lead on Mario Kart with the
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wheels and also one nunchuck and one motion sensor attachment,
as we only have one of each of those right now,
we'd love that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my God, I'm just you have no idea how
happy I have to hear this.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Thank you. I told a colleague about it this week
and she was like, that's genius, because it's it really is,
like you forget that you can just get a Wii.
You can go out and get your yourself a Wii
and then play the Wii in your home. That hasn't
that is still something that is available to us. We
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haven't lost.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
How did you think to do that?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We've been talking about it for months, and then over
the course of one long weekend, we kept talking about
the Wii and I looked up on this secondhand website
we Nintendo Wii, and there was one that had just
been listed the day before, no Way, and we went
we took from Hackney. Yes, we wow. We are always wigging.
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This is so exciting. What a wonderful update. I'm starting
to get like a little callous on my thumb from
the chuck.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You're a gamer, I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
A gamer girl. Absolutely. We can't technically play my my
all time favorite game of Kirby Air Ride because that
actually is a game cube game, but you can play
on the Wii, but then you'd need game cube controls.
It'd be it's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's a whole thing for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah. Yeah, that's hey girl.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Heye girl, I am. I am hot in in puppet
building waters because we're going I tell you, we're going
to a music festival. We're going to Outside Lands in
the Bay Area, and we're also we're also going to
be doing puppets for the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like the fuck.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So the people who do this Bay Area h music festival,
I guess they also do the Grateful Dead the weekend before.
But wow, yeah, I'm actually really excited. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I know, so are you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's like for their festival, So it's not like we're
doing it. It's not like we're we made puppets and
are coordinating with the band for their Grateful it's like
between it. But of all of all the bands, who's
festival matters, it's kind of their whole.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I feel like the puppets are very in line
with the Grateful Dead, were of both.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yes, that's that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Too, Okay, great, wow, anyway, Yeah, I'm so excited. Giant
Sleigh and then I made a car for my friend
who's did a fairis Bueller costume.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh yeah, a company thing this weekend or today, and
I was pretty proud of it. And then immediately when
I was about to hand it to her, a wheel
popped off, and I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I apologize, but I was.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I gave her a major friend discount, so kind of
the trade off was that I got to experiment as
much as I wanted. And it's not going to have.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
All the wheels.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I experimented with the wheels in that they weren't fully on.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean it's not meant to be an operational vehicle.
I assume that's okay. Was it one of those like
she's wearing the car.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
With her, she's wearing the car.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Cute. Cute.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, it's cute. So anyway, Uh, my body is tired.
But I'm I'm I'm I'm excited about all that. I
do need to get a respirator because I will be
the cause of my own death if I don't do that.
It's just like these are toxic.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh god, Oh no, it's okay. You're just inhaling asbestive?
Is that? Yeah, you're just cutting up old walls.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I mean like kind of there's it's sort of like,
if you're doing it this frequently, you just genuinely have
to be masked up because hmm, there's just so much stuff,
little stuff flying, rat particles, but a lot of particles.
Soon I'll be the grateful dead, not worrying about a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Where well, speaking of someone who is almost the cause
of their own yes, yes, Sienna, could you please give
us a synopsis?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Really by us, I mean me, because what happened in
this Okay, I actually think I figured in this bone.
Oh thank god, I.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Think I figured it out. But then by the time
I got to the end, I didn't mention a lot
of characters, and I'm like, I don't think they might.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think that's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, Winter's Bone. At seventeen years old, Ree Dolly is
the functioning adult of her household, raising her two young
siblings and caring for her catatonic mom. And as you said,
this is all in Appalachia. Well, it turns out her
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dad put their house up for bond, and so she
either has to find him within the week or later
on in the movie, prove that he's dead also within
the week. The theme of this rural Appalachian community is
to keep your damn mouth shut. And when she keeps
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going around poking through things looking for her meth cooking
dad who was murdered, people get literally so mad at her.
Oh Man in the end, in a wild turn of events,
and I'm sorry squeamish warning trigger warning. Yeah, she impresses
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people enough with her gall that the people who murdered
him let her saw the hands off of her dead
her father's dead body, which had been placed in the river,
so she can take them to the cops and they
keep the house right the end, Boy, was that a surprise?
I said, is this the Winter's Bone? It was quite discussed.
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You'll see something like that, but like her uncle's in it,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, tear her uncles yes, teer yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And other characters. Yeah, people are really mad. And I
was like, why are they so mad? And then I
was like, oh, they killed her death, that's why they're
so proud. Yeah, that'll do it. The end.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hooray, Well, Leanna, I would love.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
To just jump right into our phone.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Notes, please and thank you. This is the segment of
the podcast where we look at the notes the other
person took on their phone while watching the Winter's Bone, Siena,
what your first note is, I'm just peering smiley face.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
This was just when I understand when when they first start,
she is she can't go to school because she's doing
so much. She's still here the whole household. She goes,
she drops her she drops her siblings off, and then
she goes to every high school class and she goes,
what's going on in here? Oh, you're marching around, You're
marching around? Hi, what's going on in here? She peers.
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She's really just she's a peeping tom and nobody for learning,
for education m M, no one notices. Yeah, but I
really was like, I feel like this is a week
where I again building dumbass puppets and trying to literally
yesterday I literally tried to send one email for about
an hour and a half. Yeah, but it was an
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email that I had to like go find an old
resume and change it, and it's like, I'm not gonna
do it takes so you know, it just takes so long,
and I'm like, whoa, I'm sorry, that's a lot to
ask me to do. I don't have time to be
in school right now. Yeah, And I'm like, that's with
my stupid life, and she is caring for everybody in
her household and trying not to get the house taken away. Like,
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I get it. She really can't be at that place. Yeah,
it does sound like the waste of time.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
She cannot do basketball practice.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, or the gun carrying practice or whatever that was.
J R O TC Oh, yeah, j R O DC.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I can't I have gun carrying practice. I have to
practice carrying all my guns. There's so many of them.
How can I carry all of them?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I got a practice.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I have to practice.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Leanna, your first notes, I'm going to read a few.
You've said, Okay, singing, who is singing?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I think Jennifer Right at the beginning, she's singing to
her siblings.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Ah, there was some badass singing in this film. Actually,
sur Appalachian music slaps. It's really really good. Then you've said, dang,
I want a trampoline, and then soon after that you
said the dog does not die smiley face. Yeah, they
treated their dogs while in this film. That dog Uh yeah,
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good dog. And then yeah, that trampoline looked lit. When
she's riding a horse on that trampoline. She's riding her
little horses on that trampoline.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh, I know, and I have a note about that
as well. I want, I yearn for a trampoline. I
once did a trampoline exercise class here in London, and
I was like, this is gonna be so fun. This
is going to harken back to childhood.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, it was so hard. That does sound really hard.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I literally thought it was gonna be like, let's all
just bounce around for one hour, and then it was
like get your knees up to your chest and then
back down in the span of one second. What And
I said, we used to be We used to be proper.
It used to be fun. I used to enjoy living.
What the hell is this? How did you manage to
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make the trampoline unenjoyable? Yeah, you know, I also want
to see trampoline.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Did you have a trampoline?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Bounce?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Did you have a trampoline?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, but a friend of mine did and I was
always happy to be on it.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I adore the trampoline.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh my gosh. My family had a trampoline for a time.
Oh I kind of I kind of feel bad for
my mom because we did like it and use it,
but like she definitely got it because she was like,
oh my god, I always dreamt of having a trampoline.
I'm gonna get trampoline for my kids. Like I like, guys,
we're getting a trampoline. And I was probably maybe just
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starting high school or in middle school. We're just not
the most adventurous outdoorsy kids.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't see any of you going off about having
a trampoline.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We used, we liked it, we used. It was fun
to do with my friends sometimes. But like I just
even at the time, I was like, oh my god,
I am not appreciating this nearly enough because I know
that this is amazing. It's like having a pool, But
I'm like, I, ah.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's like when I watched Thorki. It was very the same. Well,
you were stood straight up, directly, directly down at it
while it was staring smiling up at you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think we're like, ah, there's something about the Corgi
being the royal dog. I don't feel comfortable around them.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's the first valid argument that you've made about that
whole situation. And it's been years.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't feel comfortable around that kind of dog. Yeah,
And it's been years.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You've had years to prepare that defense. I don't believe
it for a second. Did I tell you my brother
once got chased around a trampoline by a giant dog.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, that's a very precarious position to be. And he's
between a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
There was literally a rock very near the trampoline. It
was a big concern. This was at like our childhood
friend's house, and they had this mastiff, which is a
famously huge dog called Hamlet, and we put Hamlet on
the trampoline. Dog perfect name for a dog. We put
Hamlet on the trampoline with Benjamin, and then Hamlet started
chasing ben around in circles.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I love a trampoline.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That is so funny. There's so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Everybody's so mad at you. I'm sorry, take a beat
while we listened to some ads. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
This is so funny. Okay, Siana, two two of your
notes in a row. I actually have missed who everyone
is to each other in this crap.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Like who is this?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So I felt the whole time. The whole time, I
was like, ooh, I'm I'm actually losing my grasp quick.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I also was not I was watching this. I was
watching this on a projector using a PlayStation and I
didn't know what remote to use, and I just didn't
have the ability to rewind. And I was like, you
know what, I'm just gonna like sink into that situation.
And there were a lot of times where I went, oh, shoot,
what did they say? I would love to rewind right now.
But with all that ability.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
About how they were all sort of related.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, and it's like small town community whatever. But she
would go to some people's houses and it was if
they lived really far away and they were so mad
to see her and they're like, why am I Why
am I even seeing you? I'm like, they must live
really far away. But then they came to her house
later out of anger, really soon. And then as soon
as she gets home her her uncle comes and is like,
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everybody told me that you've been talking. And I've seen
this in like small town content. Small town content tends
to express see yeah, this uh this phenomenon of everybody
tells everybody everything right away. But I'm like that was really.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Fast fast, yeah yeah, and yeah, like when she goes
to Thump's house and he's like, I heard you need this,
and I'm like, she just got there.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, did you hear I don't know, maybe they're all
I aming, Leonna. You said, I'm just trying to perceive
this quote. You said, never ask for what ought to
be offered me in my dating life. I can't perceive
that quote right now. What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
He's like, should we go ask them for some of
their meat? And she's like, over ask for what ought
to be offered? And I was like, hell, yeah, that's
just that's something I'm going through right now. I'm in
a space of I will not be initiating anything for
probably a decade or so. Romantically speaking, I'm not asking for,
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not asking for I'm getting. I wrote something down like
the next line, there's a quote. The next line, Oh, you.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Said, brought you some meat? Me and who knock knock
brought you some meat.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Finally, I'm not asking for what ought to be given,
So someone bring me their meat?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Me and who oh me and who.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
They're at my door? Brought you some meat?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Finally?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Oh oh, Siena. You asked, Leanna, have you ever been
around hunting or hunting culture?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah? I are you aware of this? This cultured anyway?
Do you get Colorado? Is there hunters?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah? I've been on hikes where it's hunting season, and
there are signs up saying where bright colors that sort
of thing. And you'll hear gunshots off in the distance
in Colorado and in England when I go for my
long countryside rambles, where inevitably I accidentally trespass on someone's property,
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I'll sometimes hear gunshot.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh my god, not.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
At me to my knowledge, but I think people I
don't know if they're hunting or if they're I don't
know what they're up to with their guns, but you
do hear gunshots. And sometimes when you're in like a
wealthy area, it does feel like you're being hunted for sport.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh my gosh, I was gonna say it, like that
is thing. I think of that as the posh yeah,
posh thing, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The but then I think also farmers will have guns,
right like if they have to ward anything away from
their sheep or anything like that, they'll have guns.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, this is how you this is how I'm understand
hold on, I have to say this is I'm understanding
that there's like the Dalton Abbey, British would like go
on a fancy hunting trip, and that's why we have
so many we have so many weird British Victorian pies
that I watched them make on the internet because it's like, oh,
they made this pigeon pigeon foot pie, which actually exists,
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and they'll have it after hunting. And then also they
need to you know, shoot like the the Beatrix Potter
animals to stop eating their lettuce and stuff. Also British.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh my god, Oh my god, that's the grimmest way
you could have.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I have to put it in British context for myself.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh my god, those are the cutest iterations of all
of those animals. Well that's what the little bunny, that's
what they're trying to show. And goslings.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Those are the animals they're shooting. I hate to tell
it to you.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
They do not come over here. I don't trust you
over here.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I don't I'm saying I don't want them to shoot them.
They are shooting the Beatrix Potter animals.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They shouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
The Beatrix Potter animals are very safe. They're fine.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Everybody. All animals in all animals in England are the
Beatrix Potter animals, so be careful. My no, I haven't
been around hunting. I'd say even less so because that
Colorado explanation you just gave would be very novel to me.
I did once do a puppet show, Oh mad hunting lodge?
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Did I ever tell you about what? No, because one
of our.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Packs of dermied animals as puppets, I think you take
a moose head off.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The wall, but honestly, we should have. It's the pipeline
of wealthy dad art daughter. Means that sometimes some of
the some of the parents, the parents of the kids
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in our of our puppet group, there's conservative parents, Oh
my god, and they're like, I want my daughter to
come and do a thing at the hunting lodge. No, unfortunately,
that is the pipeline.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So how was it received.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It was very weird. The people attending the hunting lodge
were all like, it was my friends, my friend has
access to the hunting lodge kind of because of the
conservative side of the family, and that that that is true.
That is true, But it was her more liberal mom
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who was having the party. But it was weird that
she chose to do it at the hunting lodge. But
so the people at the party were kind of down
with it, but it felt extremely out of place, and
I remember observing that the things that were I thought
there would be more of like a I'm like, well,
we as like liberal city folk are like judging the
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hunting thing. But I'm sure there's more of sort of
a spiritual element and a survival element. And it's not
like they're just like celebrating just killing an animal. It's like,
you know, it's like living off the land. And but
when I got there, it was a lot more just
celebrating killing animals than I expected. I was like, oh, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's it's very like manhath dominion over nature.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I was kind of I was waiting for to
be quite different than that. Anyway, it was interesting, but
I think that's it. That's even much different part than
kind than in this because in this they don't have
time for.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah no, absolutely not, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Leanna, Yeah, you said the thing about Appalachian music is
that it slaps this woman. This woman, This woman's voice
was one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard,
And I remember thinking, imagine having this gift, Imagine walking
around life knowing I have a gift of magic so
deep inside of my of my vocal chords and I
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can break it out any moment I want.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I know there's something about that kind of music that's
very akin to like Irish folk music. It just hits
you deep down and you're like, I love this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, this slaps. It's playing to the whatever rhythm
is within all of us.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Ooh humans, Okay, gorgeous Sienna. You've asked Leanna, what's your
relationship to Hey, I found you might I thought you
might have one.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I would like to know. I feel like you.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Think I was raised in a barn.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, I don't think that. I do think that it's
possible that you've been on a horse multiple times. That
is true.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I've told you about the time I sobbed on a horse, right, yes,
well you have to tell me again because it was
going so fast.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's one of the funniest images I've ever been granted,
I've ever been gifted in my life a horse.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm glad it yielded some good eventually.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
A horse riding at full speed and a terrified girl
on top going because imagining someone standing still and that
horse rushing by and just here. I am sorry for
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you that it was terrifying. But oh boy, is that
is that funny for me?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hey? You know, comedy is tragedy plus time and now
here I am anyway visa VI. Hey, it definitely makes
me think of horses and my specific horse memories. Oh,
that makes it sound like I was a horse for
a period of time and I had could be memories
from when I was a horse.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I would accept it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
No, I would accept you. I don't know, it's too
itchy for me. Oh, what's your relationship to Hey?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
We used to go to like, there was a place
called Reremling or farms growing up, the little like farm
you'd go to and like hang out. And there's a
video of me of me jumping and not understanding the
height of things because I was so young, jumping and
absolutely starfishing pancake face first into a bail of hay.
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Just absolutely, I jump and I go flat and it's
really funny and that's mainly what I think of.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Wow, thank you for that image.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Thank you for gifting me with that image.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'll find the video at some point and send it
to you, because it is. It's a fail.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh my god, oh my knee that I've made for
the Wii. Oh yeah, I named it. Hey, no way,
I just remember it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah. Hey, hey, h y okay, hey hey Leana, you
said I have muted the film. Oh when she was
getting beat up.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
How are you feeling about this, Leanna? I thought we
were talking about that. Oh, we'll get to that in
a second. I muted the film certainly many times. I
definitely muted it when she was getting beat up. Before that,
I muted it when the cows were really stressed out.
There's no need for me to watch that. And I
muted it when somebody brought out an axe. And then
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absolutely the hand scene. Yeah, I said, oh, I'm gonna
need to not hear that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I guess we should talk about that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It was very loud. It was just the sound of
a chain saw.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
A chainsaw is probably one of the loudest.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It was extremely loud.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hmm. That couldn't have been worse as a circumstance.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
That. Oh was crazy. I just didn't expect it. This
is a moment where I went, oh, I think this
was a book, because that seems like something that they
would have as a climax of a book and maybe
a movie as well. But like the tone shift of
like Okay, you gotta chop some hands off now.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I was like, no, yeah, it was gore in a
way that there hadn't been gore.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah. It wasn't really like a horror movie before that.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
No, and it was horrific.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
For that scene, I was like, interesting, I mistakenly thought
she had won an Oscar for this. She'd just been
she was just nominated, she'd been nominated, and I was
kind of like, yeah, I mean I think she's doing
a great job. But and then the boat scene happened,
and even watching it on mute, I was like, oh,
she's good, hey girl, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, I think she's a good actress.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think she's great.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Oh I think, well she's red her a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Me too, Okay, I think yeah, I'm a big fan
of her vibe.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I don't know why it's called Winter's Bone.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh well, that was where my note came in of
I wonder why it's called Winter's Bone. And then they
showed up at her door and they were like, we're
gonna take you to your dady's bones. And I was like, oh, well,
bones in the winter.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, was it winter because there was not any snow,
but they were all wearing beanies.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Beanies, and there were no leaves on the trees. Good point,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Wow, nice observation.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But I also recover. I recalled there being a heavy
snow in summary I had of the clip, but I
guess we just implied that. I remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
They were all moving through glizards, like, oh, it's so
much snow.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's like frozen.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And I thought there was like a Snowman character. Yeah,
it's like wait.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, And a child was singing do you want to
build a snow yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And another one was singing was singing, I'm walking there.
You know that song?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
No, what is that from the.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Snowman? I think it's called the Snowman. It's the little
like Welsh short. It's like a Welsh animated short.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Is the one where the Snowman is kind of scary looking?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, and it flies and the boy goes, I'm flying through.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was amazing to watch your whole face and body
pause to hit that R.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's awesome. It's really weird. It's like nobody wants this,
nobody wants this content. But I watched it recently randomly
for a joke, and I went, this is kind of
lit cute? Uh, speaking of something being kind of lit?
You said, who sees a trailer for this and is like,
I want to watch that? Great point, great question. I
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just even though there was good acting, like I thought
she acted well, and I didn't. I didn't like. I
wasn't throughout this movie going oh I hate this, like
I think it was. It was good and I can
see it as well directed. I don't know. I didn't.
I was pretty neutral on it. I'd say, but I
guess because I expected this vibe as well. But but
I would never choose to watch this film if it
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wasn't something that we Uh, this.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Is what I don't understand. I'm like, who sees the
trailer for a movie like this and is like, Oh,
I'm gonna need to go and see that, yeah, in theaters?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't. Maybe my dad, I think she watched it,
because I remember him saying I think I saw the
clip of it during the Oscars and we were watching
as a family, and I remember him saying that Jennifer
Lawrence was really good in it and that it was
really intense. But when did my dad watch it?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Your dad?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I gotta see Winter's Bone I'm gonna go see Winter's Bone.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Maybe it was on the TV. I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, I thought we're on TV. I could see watching
it then. And then the only other reason I'd watched
this is if somebody was like, we're gonna watch all
the Oscar Noms. That's how I see movies like this,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, but before that happens, like before it gets nominated,
who is the target audience?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Is it Dad's I think so? And you know, there's
there's shows like True Detective and stuff. I feel like
those people like it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But that's like, that's a clear mystery. I mean, I
guess this was billed as a thriller, but it's not
a class like a standard thriller in the way that
movie thrillers are.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I know. I didn't know it was a mystery
until I started watching it. Then I went, they don't
know where the dad is. Yeah, Leanna, your final notes
are you're gonna need to reach down and tug them up.
I am not doing that. And then your final note
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is okay watching the SNL sketch smiley face.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I had to cleanse the palace and also double check
that we hadn't imagined this Wayne's world, which winters. If
you have a dog to cuddle during three minutes, I
would recommend taking this time to do so while we
have an outbreak.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Wait, Leanna, you want to move on to our next segment?
Oh my god, yeah, this is their next segment, Badges
and Trages, where we tell you nope, where we give
badges and autopilot, where we give badges for bones and
trages for uh, turs come a win. Yes, bones and
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turs come a win. Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
My first badge is for so many dogs.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, there was a dog within seconds of this that
I went, this is gonna be good for Leanna.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I didn't write stack does thedog die dot com just
to double check, and then I felt comfortable that's wise.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I will say badge for I do enjoy watching sort
of the small town content thing or country content in
movies because I am just sort of an ignorant city
slicker and it's, uh, it's like an interesting it's an
interesting world. I go, wow, that's crazy. WHOA that sounds intense.
(36:54):
Oh my god, everybody knew that that's crazy. Wow. I
could never do that to a squirrel. Oh my god.
So in that way it's entertaining.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I have musication film at that point as well.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
That was disgusting. That was really gross.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, badge for I love these dogs. When they were
all out on a.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Walk, that's wonderful. Badge for this woman has such a
pretty voice. When they went and there was that band
or just friends playing music, I was in awe. I
really really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Badge for all the dogs.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I loved all that they're kept being new dogs and
I was so excited.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
That is I'm really happy for you. Oh, I wrote
badge for bed. Actually, after she gets all beat up,
I was like, that's horrible, But they actually take a
moment to just like clean her up and like get
her all snug in bed, and then her siblings get
in bed with her, and I was just like, oh,
it looks so nice to be comfy and like cared
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for after all of this that she's been through.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But then I think they give her oxy content.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, that I think I kind of blocked that out.
That was yeah, you know what's.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It was kind of like a blink and you'll miss it,
but if you're attuned to it, it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Show, well I noticed that, and I was like, wow,
they must have a good reason for giving her that,
because that's a really bad idea.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Dang. And now that I think it's been heavily beaten.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, now I think back on it, though, I think
they were just like, yeah, there's a lot of that people,
you're taking it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's in the community. Yikes. A badge for old husky.
When she goes to see her uncle and maybe aunt,
it's an incredibly old husky who takes a long time
to stand up and look around. And I said, I
love you.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I'm so happy for you about this. I give a
badge for no weird sex stuff. Id K. I wrote
that down because her being a seventeen year old like
wandering around, she's really vulnerable. And that's kind of like stated.
But I'm glad they never showed that through like any
weird like uh yeah, you know, attacking her in any
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ways like that besides just beating her up.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, but even that it was by another woman.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
They literally were like all just actually doing that. And
that's another one of those like I actually appreciated because
sometimes in movies, especially movies that a lot of men
are involved with as we've seen, the only way that
they show that that somebody's vulnerable is by like attacking
them in some like yeah, sexually violent life. And it
just was it was actually very comforting that wasn't a
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part of this. Yeah, seventeen year old on her own.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
A badge for how stubborn she is. I liked this
character and that she was like, well, I'm obviously going
to go like, look at that exploded meth lab. She
was my dad's body is there?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I liked. I like the cut of her jibs.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, I liked.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I liked her too. She was really good at teaching
her siblings stuff. She really did. She really did keep
her mouth shut. Every They'd be like, she's gonna talk,
and her allies were like, she's not gonna say a
damn thing.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
She didn't. She would she she'll sass you to your face,
but but she won't say and she'll ask you questions. Yeah,
but once she knows the answers. Yeah. My final badge
is for a cute chick.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Mm hmm. The baby baby birds.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, the baby birds. For what a cute chick? The
baby birds? Yeah, baby.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
My final badge is a badge for a doggy cuddle.
Her younger brother is cuddling a dog at one point,
and I said.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Ah, oh wow, I'm so pleased for you.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, good good dog in this film and thank god trudges. Yeah,
oh a trage close up cutting something with a knife.
She's cutting potatoes just in her hands. And whenever somebody
shows a close up of anything like that on camerasing,
because you're afraid, I get, I get nervy.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Nervy. Trage for everyone is being so mean. People's attitudes.
They were like barking at each other. She'd get there
and they're like, you don't want to be around here,
get go, get home.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Go on get Yeah. No one was happy to see her. No,
she did not have a warm reception anywhere, straight of
like please please. Everywhere she went they were like, what
are you doing here? Damn?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I hate you.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Trage for it. No, I am not watching this. When
they're peeling a squirrel, Yeah that was crazy. I think
they really peeled that squirrel, Absolutely they did. I'm not
watching that.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Badge for nope. Trage for uh so many people. I decay.
I just the characters and when they I just I
missed a lot of things, and I it was it was.
It was hard to follow in that way, but you know,
I figured it out eventually.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, a trage for sorry gang, but I am not
down for cows in distress. Yeah, I don't want to
see that. I'm a vegetarian for a reason.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Okay, totally totally, and we're all cows in distress right now.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
It's hard to watch, but mm hmm, it's harder to live. Yeah.
My final trash is chopping her dad's hands clean off.
That was crazy. I mean it was all right, I
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don't know, I guess it. Ah, her face that whole time, Yes,
very good acting. Also really funny that she's just like,
oh yeah, I can't look at that understandably. That is
so crazy. Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh, a trage for you spitting out a tooth me
with all my stress streams, my recurring stress dreams of
my teeth falling out. No thank you? Trade for why
is this army guy being so nice?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh my god? He was the most emotionally intelligent person
that was in the whole movie. Honestly, it felt like propaganda.
Even though he was saying, don't join the army.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I was like, I don't. I don't know about this,
and my final trage is for sorry, but I have rights.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I have rights.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm not watching a hand get chain sawed up off
the rest of a body. I have right.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
You can't make me watch that. No, just because you're
a movie, I'm supposed to watch that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Mm hmmm, I don't think putting the film on mute
and I am looking at the New York Times crossword.
That's the end of my tragedy.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Well, Leanna, let's move on to our next segment, which is,
of course, how to pretend you've seen this film.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
This is for you are smoking a dooby on your.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Walk, smoking a dooby on your walk, walking around your neighborhood,
minding your own business, and uh, what'd you call tear
drop earlier? Tablecloth?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I tooth bite. I don't tooth bite.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Toothbye walks up to you and says, smoking a doobee.
I see boy. I think I'm gonna tell everybody in
town about this. You nobody cares. It's all good. I
live in a in this in this world, it's legal
for me to be walking around wherever I want. Spoken
to stoby, I'm gonna doube And why why why are
you running your mouth around town and at me? In fact,
(45:08):
stop talking to me, he says. You know, boy, I
just watched this movie that was great. Loved every minute
of it, which had a little bit more action though,
and a little bit more you know.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
It had this cool part at the end with the
hand shopping, but I wish they had more sort of
stuff like that. It's a movie called Winter's Bone. Boy,
I can't wait to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
And in order to blow up tear Drop in a
meth lab related incident, we're gonna give you a few sentences. Sorry,
you can say to pretend you've seen the film Winter's Bone.
Winter's Bone, Yes, Teardrop, I've seen Winter's Bone. In a
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lot of ways, It's not not Hunt for the Wilder People.
There's training a young kid how to use a gun,
leaving off the land of a strong and fairly justified
dislike of law enforcement. Yeah, and a bunch of people
being insane.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Whoa yeah. And in that one they get lost, and
in this one they're trying to find their way out
versus trying to find a guy mm hmm, versus trying
to find their way out of a sticky situation with
the house.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
And in that one the mom dies, and in this
one the dad dies, and in both an animal gets peeled.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Oh my god, this is crazy. I'm not gonna say
any judgments on this. I'm just gonna say what it is.
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, toothache. I've seen tooth bite. I've
seen the film Winter's Bone. Jennifer Lawrence was originally turned
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down for the role for being quote too pretty. I
will say it crossed my mind that this was a
vibe of like they were. It felt like they were
trying to make it not super Hollywood with all the
design and everything. And it's hard for her not to
seem Hollywood, just because I know of her as a
movie star.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
But Jennifer Lawrence was originally turned down for being quote
unquote two pretty. She flew overnight into New York City,
walked thirteen walked thirteen blocks in the sleet to the
casting office, and auditioned with a running nose and hair
that wasn't washed for a week. Cool, Okay, all right.
(47:36):
Lawrence won the role and ultimately her first Academy Award
nomination at twenty years old. I think that it is
awesome how much she wanted it. I think that her
determination is what made her so good at this role,
because her character was very determined. It is very funny
to hear a story it's like this gorgeous actress bravely
made herself ugly.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
For fifteen minutes. I know, I hate when I get
turned down for something because I'm.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Too pretty, But you know, she had She knew that
she had the chops for this, and so she had
to show them that she has balls.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Mm hmmm, yes, to toothpick, tear toothpick, tear drop, tear drop,
to whatever. He's really a teardrop. We've been calling him toothbite.
Oh God, tooth bite. I think I think so tooth bite.
I've seen Winter's Bone. At one point I was watching.
(48:35):
When I was watching this movie on my lunch break,
I asked myself, what is crank? And then realized I
cannot google this on my work computer.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
I also googled it. Did I google it in a
safe browser or whatever, a private browser browser? Or maybe
I just I looked it up in a way where
I said, what is crank? What is the drug? I
tried to make it sound as investigative as possible, not
somebody who wrots historical research. I did not know meth
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was called crank me neither.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, to pick, I've seen Toothbite. I've seen Winter's Bone.
For authenticity purposes, most of the supporting cast were locals.
Rhe's sister was from the area, and indeed, the exterior
of the home in the film was actually her real home.
Oh cool. The clothes were the locals closed and they
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gave them. They traded them new clothes for their clothes
because they're like, can we please use these for the film?
They're better than we'll make. Okay cool. I think that's cool.
I also sometimes wonder if that kind of thing is
a bit voyeuristic of us, as just some of the shots.
I don't know. It's like a love letter to a community.
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But also at the same time, it's like at the
Oscar people watching this, they're like, very good, very good,
very authentic. Oh you took their real.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Pave portrayal of a weird place.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Ugh, Yes, tooth Bite, I've seen Winter's Bone. A man
is talking to me about film again. What can we
do kill me? I guess.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oh. A good final piece of trivia which tells us
about the title. Yes, I have seen the film Winter's Bone.
The title comes from an old Appalachian expression, like a
dog digging after a winter's bone. It's a really good
expression indicating someone who, like Redlly, is on a search
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or quest for something and will not give it up.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Cool. But what is a winter's bone?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I assumed that meant like the ground is really hard
and so it's hard to dig for it, so you
really have to be determined.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Okay, okay, Sienna, let's dig up our segment. Should you
watch this or in which we tell you if we
think you should watch the movie or if you should
do something else with your search?
Speaker 1 (51:15):
What do you think? Leanna M.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't know. I don't. Hey, listen, this film was
not for me, So can I recommend anyone else watch it? No?
What you could do instead is maybe listen to some
Appalachian music, some tunes, some tunes, Oh yeah, because they
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are bangers. Sienna, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
That's a great idea. Well, I can see that this
is a good movie. I see why it was nominated.
I think it was well directed, good for the director
that I don't the name of it, was good for Deborah.
I agree that not everybody has to watch This does
(52:10):
not have to be your vibe all the time. I
don't remember Hunger Games really very well, but it feels
really similar in that they probably watched her in this
and went, oh, this girl could be a survival girl
in the Hunger Game.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
True.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
So I would say, depending if you're in the mood
for a survival tale, you can either watch a more
gritty one of Winter's Bone, or you can watch the
Hunger Games. If you want to watch a more insane one,
how about that?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah? Whoa, Leanna? What would you rate this movie knowing
that there are a million dogs but that you hated
everything else, or that the rest is disturbing?
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I know? I would give Winter's Bone two peeled squirrels
out of five. I loved all the dogs, and all
the dogs were treated well and with love, and Jennifer
Lawrence's acting was very good. The rest of it, yeah,
not my cup of tea, totally not. Poor Moir Cianna,
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what would you say?
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I will give Winter's Bone winters Winter's Bone two point
nine be a deer stew's out of five. I I didn't.
I didn't hate watching it. The acting and the there
were like just a lot of people's faces staring and stuff,
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and that kind of works for me. I was confused
a lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
And uh, you know, the vibes aren't extremely pleasant, I'll
say that, but yeah, that's okay. I think I think that,
I think that it was a good job and uh,
it's not for us really.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, a good job and not for us.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Well, thank you everybody so much much for listening to
this episode that was That was Winter's Bone, Winter's Bone.
We finally know what it's all about. Mmm. You can
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(54:19):
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