July 28, 2021 • 19 mins
To learn more about Transportista, John Gibler calls a Venezuelan colleague, who revealed the plot of complicity between the Chávez government and the Narco cartels, and the way the Mexican pilot moved around the country’s biggest airport.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
In April two thousand and six, when the Mexican Army
boarded an old DC nine on the runway in Sila
de Garman and found five plus tons of cocaine neatly
packed in row after row of black suitcases. Mexican and
US reporters understandably put a lot of energy into trying
to find out who owned the plane. That effort led
(00:28):
them quickly to the clearwater Saint Petersburg International Airport in
Florida and a man named Fred Geffen. At the time,
Geffen told Howard Altman at the Tampa Tribune that he
had just sold the DC nine through a broker and
did not know the buyer's name. Several years later, however,
a young investigative reporter in Venezuela would shift his attention
(00:50):
to the mic Athia Simumoliva International Airport outside of Garnacas.
Mike Athia is Venezuela's largest and busiest airport, is also
the airport from which the DC nine took off not once,
but twice, perhaps even three times. On April ten, two
thousand and six. Found from Mexico Herado Reyes, the Colombian
(01:13):
investigator journalists with whom he spoke in the previous episode
told me that he had introduced Fernando Blenchio to have
Venezuelan reporter in two thou twelve. That reporter Joseph Polzuk
was then working for the newspaper Aluni Ursel in Caracas.
I reached out to ten through mutual friend in Mexico
City to ask him about his experiences talking at Blenkio
(01:34):
and reporting on the infamous cocaine brun How did ide
this investigation? I was coloring the mclet case the news
around while at mclet that was considered one of the
most busted narcotraffickers by the Obama administration in the US,
(01:54):
and it was incredible for US and luas are very
important news because mclett was not one more businessman. He
was a businessman in Karabogo State. Walid Macklin is as
Syrian born Venezuelan businessman and member of a powerful business family,
was wanted in the US for drug trafficking. He was
(02:16):
rested in Colombia in twenty and ten and extradited to
Venezuela in twenty eleven. And he had a lot of
links with the high government and he was linked with
specific ministers secretaries in Venezuela. Machlin was tried and convicted
of drug trafficking money laundering in twenty and fifteen. He
(02:38):
is currently serving a sentence of fourteen years and six
months in prison. I decided to follow his case and
to understand why the US administration, the Obama administration followed him.
So I look for the old offense and the cases
that because he was a boss. And I found this flight,
(03:04):
a flight that began in Micaia next to the Presidential Agar.
This isn't the first time that I've heard Machlet's name
mentioned in relation to Blenkio and the DC nine. Howard
Altman told me that Makled was the true owner of
both the DC nine and the Gulf Stream too. And
as it turns you out these planes, it's been purchased
through the Cinaloa cartel by a game in Walid Machlied.
(03:27):
I love he folved Wali. Machld story is pretty interesting. Machlid,
with his connections to high level Venezuela civilian and military officials,
was said to coordinate the permissions and payments necessary to
send and receive major drugs shipments through Venezuela's airport, border crossings,
and ports. The website Insight Crime reports that Machld's wealth
(03:49):
grew dramatically between two thousand and four and two thousand
and eight, a period that coincides with UGL Chavez's defeat
of the recall effort and the further consolidation of its power.
Insight also reports that the Venezuelan government began to pursue
the Machulins after Walid's brother Abdallah ran as an independent
candidate for mayor of Valencia, the third largest city in
(04:10):
the country. Arrested in Colombia and facing extradition requests by
both the United States and the Venezuelan governments, Machlin threatened
to reveal his contacts in the Venezuela military. Polizu's initial
interest in while in Machelin led him to the DC
nine that took off from Micatia International Airport in April
(04:30):
two thousand and six, stuffed with cocaine. Poliza told me
that he started looking for information in Venezuela with the
proper authorities. I began to look for the documents and
the case in Venezuela, but it was impossible to have
access to the file. I remember that I went to
(04:52):
the court and they didn't give me the file, but
at the same time in a photocopy my id. Politwook
thus realized early on that while Venezuelan officials would be
less than helpful in his search for information, they would
keep an eye on him. He decided to try his
luck in Mexico. Since the DC nine had flown from
(05:14):
Venezuela to Mexico, where the army confiscated both the plane
and its load of cocaine, Politwook decided to look there.
The Mexican government had passed a series of freedom of
information laws starting the early two thousands, which led to
the creation of a federal institute charged with receiving and
responding to public information requests. I began a formal process
(05:35):
in the A five the Freedom of Information Acts for
Organization or Institute of Mexico. That it was a bureaucratic
and incredible process. It had more than one year. Politzook
filed multiple information requests, but the government kept rejecting the requests,
stating national security concerns. Politicook sought out and made contact
(05:59):
with the simple judge and refiled his request five times
until it was assigned to that particular judge that then
released the documents. Well, the files were all heavily censured,
with most names crossed down. He did find something, but
there was a name that I found and it was
blenk hos blank Yossenia. That he has more names, and
(06:23):
this is what I found. His identity in Venezuela was
Raoul Himenes Alvaro, a Mexican pilot who was remembered in
the airport because of a big Rolex watch. But there
wasn't more and at this time it was like the
(06:47):
Earth ate him. And in the Mexican case, the name
was Ernando Blenkio Sessenia. Here's the most important thing you
need to know about the drug business in a game.
In every country in the world in which there's a
significant market in illicit drugs, the people that control that
(07:08):
market are the same people that control the country. That
is the voice of Daniel Hopsicker, an independent writer who
specializes in investigating organized crime, is dedicated more pixels to
following the story of Cocaine One than probably any other reporter.
You can find an archive of one hundred or so
articles related to Cocaine One on his blog We'll hear
(07:29):
more from Hopsicer later on, but for now, let's take
a moment to reflect on this proposition. If you believe
in any version of either liberal or neoliberal political theory,
then you'll start rolling your eyes now, because you probably
believe that the police exist to keep people safe, and
that modern states build and maintain armies to protect their
borders from invasion. You might think that people and borders
(07:53):
need all this protection because there's an awful thing called
human nature that inexorably drives people to be nasty to
each other. For this theoretical lens, one could believe the
ubiquitous claim that the police and the armed forces fight
drug traffickers and terrorists to keep everyone else safe. The
main problem with this lens is that it is useless
(08:14):
for describing and analyzing actual events. Just as the George
Bush Administration's War on Terror set in motion a vast
global proliferation of acts of terror, the US created drug
wars have redesigned, fueled, and invigorated the illegal drug markets.
If one spends time researching the history and the present
(08:36):
of the transnational illegal drug trade, hopsickers claim that the
people that control that are the same people that control
the country becomes obvious. In January twenty twenty one, colleagues
at the Give reached out to me about a curious
individual they've been interviewing using a clandestine's cell phones from
(08:57):
inside of prison in North Carolina. The man claimed to
have worked as a pilot entrepreneur and air logistics coordinator
in the international drug trade for some thirty years. My
friends Attictive who produced a podcast in Spanish, and wanted
to know if I'd be interested in working on a
sister podcast in English looking into this man in his story. Sure,
(09:18):
I said, but I need to do my own investigation
and see what I can find that they Thieven invited
the legendary Mexican actor Joaquin Kocio to read the English
translations of Transportista's quoted interviews with Manuel Ladius. My name,
sadly is John Gibler, and this, in a sense is
Transportista episode three next to the Presidential Hangar. On Sunday,
(10:06):
June nine, twenty thirteen, Joseph Polzu published an article in
the Caracas based newspaper Eluni Versal with the headline the
Chapel connection. Palizu excites it. Two thousand nine Decision one
of the Mexican court documents he received after a year
of legal wrangling with Mexico's Freedom of Information Institute. The
(10:27):
document says the following From the court testimony of Albino
Quinto Meras, it follows that he recognized the participation of
Fernando Blenchio, and from the testimony of Maximo Biscaro Greece,
which is established that Fernando Blenchio went by the name
Raoul Himenes Albano. That bit of information enabled Polzuk to
(10:50):
connect Fernando Velochia, then I prisoned in the United States,
with the witness testimonies of Venezuelan airport workers describing a
pilot called Raoul with the Mexican accent and a big
gold rolex. This Rahun often appeared at the Micatia Airport,
both flying and checking on planes, and was last seen
(11:12):
in early April two thousand and six waiting for a
plane to be delivered from Florida. Polizuk emphasizes that the
DC nine not only took off from Return two and
took off again from Venezuela's largest international airport, but that
in doing so it had to pass right by the
presidential hangar. He also reported that two National Guard officers
(11:36):
uncharacteristically took charge of supervising the planes take off. Those
guards were never charged with any crimes, though the airport
workers who serviced the plane and the co pilot arrested
in Mexico were all convicted for crimes related to the plane.
In Mexico, a co pilot was sentenced to thirty two
years and six months in prison. Politoo published the second
(12:03):
of two articles on the DC nine a week later
on Sunday, June sixteen, with the headline Cartel Infiltrated Makeetia.
He again cited court artuments obtained in Mexico that revealed
the Falcon twenty business jet, also confiscated in garment, had
itself flown in and out of Makeetia Airport in Venezuela,
(12:24):
using the same runway as the DC nine love Line aircraft,
and it was interesting to understand that the Mexican cartels
were in Venezuela and not just in the country. His
aircraft landed and began the flights from a specific angar
(12:51):
located next to the Presidential angard of Ugo Chaves. Politok,
with help from Reyes from VC was able to correspond
to Plank, I talked with him, I contact him, and
it was a very interesting experience as a journalist. It
was of the record. I just wanted to understand his role.
(13:12):
But more than him, it's important that we understand that
he was one of the pilots of the Chappo Guzman.
It was not just about him, it was about the
Sinaloa cartel through him. It's obvious that we can understand
that the Sinaloa cartel has or had an operation in
(13:36):
the country. But more than this again, and I am
highlighting this part. Next to the presidential anger when it
spoke with me, political emphasized several times the fact that
the cocaine flights were landing and taking off from an
area of the Micatia International Airport right next to then
President Google Charles's presidential hangar. I asked him if he
(14:00):
thought that this fact then that it would have been
impossible for Charvis not to support it or at least
known about these drug place for a long time. Chaves
was accused to support and his government even being part
of the narco traffickers and the narco traffic cartals. Anyway,
(14:20):
I think that this is one of the most important
cases that are related with the Chavist administration. And with
that case, you can suppose that the Chavish administration I
didn't cooperate with the cartals. They had to know to
(14:44):
have news about that ap So far, we've heard about
Fernando blank Hio s signa. Now it's time to hear
(15:07):
from him. As I've mentioned. In January twenty twenty one,
Diego Sarno asked if I would be interested in working
on an English language version of a Spanish language podcast
called Transportista. One of the conditions for taking this assignment
was that I have to use the English language audio
of blank Hill's translated interviews. Detective hired the legendary actor
(15:31):
Juaquinkosio to record blank Hill's part in the Spanish podcast
back when they had planned to translate the entire podcast
into English. I am Transportista. That's when I am. That's
Faquinco SiO. Manuel spoke a blank Hill inside prison. I'm
currently locked up in a prison in North Carolina called
Reverse Correctional Facility using a cell phone. He'll get a
(15:54):
cell phone in prison. He didn't pay off anyone to
be able to use a phone. Well, smuggle them by
a drone. A phone can cause your big bags anywhere
from three to five thousand dollars. Was a risky to
talk on themselves. The guards regularly come around every thirty
minutes patrolling the corridors, but sometimes in normal conditions they
(16:19):
will raise the sales those search and that's when we
have to be hitting most careful. In case your cocks
with a phone. Knew you have to pay with ninety
days in the whole, meaning soliditary confinement and forty one
days of good behavior are taken from you, which is
the penalty we want to avoid. From the beginning of
(16:41):
this project, I knew I would need to use those
recordings to tell a version of the story that Blank
you have told Detective I'm not a pilot. By coincidence,
there were a series of circumstances that let me move
more quickly into my career. I also told Diego back
in January, but instead of doing a narrative podcast, since
(17:01):
I had not done any of the interviews of Blank, Yo,
I would have to do something focused on the telling
of the story instead of simply telling the story. That's
why I started out speaking with other reporters who have
had contact of blenk Yo. But there was another issue
for me. When I listened to the Spanish podcast and
read the full transcripts of Manuel's interviews with Blank Yo,
(17:24):
I realized that I didn't trust Blank Yo, and thus
that my mistrust would influence how I would approach the
story or the course of the next few episodes. We'll
listen to parts of Blank Hiell's oral autobiography as told
to Defective. I'll use both Cosille's recordings and my translations
(17:48):
of and reading from the interview transcripts to trace the
tale that blink Hill told. Blink Hill's story sounds a
bit like a drug trafficking noir thriller written by Mel Brooks,
a Hollywood tale of crime as a comedy of airs.
Those guys didn't blow up the plane again. Back coordination
(18:09):
I heard of. Fies ambushed us. They took us to
the back there, Aretel, They luck us up in our rooms.
They knew who we were, They knew practically everything. Next
(18:33):
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In April two thousand and six, when the Mexican Army
boarded an old DC nine on the runway in Sila
de Garman and found five plus tons of cocaine neatly
packed in row after row of black suitcases. Mexican and
US reporters understandably put a lot of energy into trying
to find out who owned the plane. That effort led
(00:28):
them quickly to the clearwater Saint Petersburg International Airport in
Florida and a man named Fred Geffen. At the time,
Geffen told Howard Altman at the Tampa Tribune that he
had just sold the DC nine through a broker and
did not know the buyer's name. Several years later, however,
a young investigative reporter in Venezuela would shift his attention
(00:50):
to the mic Athia Simumoliva International Airport outside of Garnacas.
Mike Athia is Venezuela's largest and busiest airport, is also
the airport from which the DC nine took off not once,
but twice, perhaps even three times. On April ten, two
thousand and six. Found from Mexico Herado Reyes, the Colombian
(01:13):
investigator journalists with whom he spoke in the previous episode
told me that he had introduced Fernando Blenchio to have
Venezuelan reporter in two thou twelve. That reporter Joseph Polzuk
was then working for the newspaper Aluni Ursel in Caracas.
I reached out to ten through mutual friend in Mexico
City to ask him about his experiences talking at Blenkio
(01:34):
and reporting on the infamous cocaine brun How did ide
this investigation? I was coloring the mclet case the news
around while at mclet that was considered one of the
most busted narcotraffickers by the Obama administration in the US,
(01:54):
and it was incredible for US and luas are very
important news because mclett was not one more businessman. He
was a businessman in Karabogo State. Walid Macklin is as
Syrian born Venezuelan businessman and member of a powerful business family,
was wanted in the US for drug trafficking. He was
(02:16):
rested in Colombia in twenty and ten and extradited to
Venezuela in twenty eleven. And he had a lot of
links with the high government and he was linked with
specific ministers secretaries in Venezuela. Machlin was tried and convicted
of drug trafficking money laundering in twenty and fifteen. He
(02:38):
is currently serving a sentence of fourteen years and six
months in prison. I decided to follow his case and
to understand why the US administration, the Obama administration followed him.
So I look for the old offense and the cases
that because he was a boss. And I found this flight,
(03:04):
a flight that began in Micaia next to the Presidential Agar.
This isn't the first time that I've heard Machlet's name
mentioned in relation to Blenkio and the DC nine. Howard
Altman told me that Makled was the true owner of
both the DC nine and the Gulf Stream too. And
as it turns you out these planes, it's been purchased
through the Cinaloa cartel by a game in Walid Machlied.
(03:27):
I love he folved Wali. Machld story is pretty interesting. Machlid,
with his connections to high level Venezuela civilian and military officials,
was said to coordinate the permissions and payments necessary to
send and receive major drugs shipments through Venezuela's airport, border crossings,
and ports. The website Insight Crime reports that Machld's wealth
(03:49):
grew dramatically between two thousand and four and two thousand
and eight, a period that coincides with UGL Chavez's defeat
of the recall effort and the further consolidation of its power.
Insight also reports that the Venezuelan government began to pursue
the Machulins after Walid's brother Abdallah ran as an independent
candidate for mayor of Valencia, the third largest city in
(04:10):
the country. Arrested in Colombia and facing extradition requests by
both the United States and the Venezuelan governments, Machlin threatened
to reveal his contacts in the Venezuela military. Polizu's initial
interest in while in Machelin led him to the DC
nine that took off from Micatia International Airport in April
(04:30):
two thousand and six, stuffed with cocaine. Poliza told me
that he started looking for information in Venezuela with the
proper authorities. I began to look for the documents and
the case in Venezuela, but it was impossible to have
access to the file. I remember that I went to
(04:52):
the court and they didn't give me the file, but
at the same time in a photocopy my id. Politwook
thus realized early on that while Venezuelan officials would be
less than helpful in his search for information, they would
keep an eye on him. He decided to try his
luck in Mexico. Since the DC nine had flown from
(05:14):
Venezuela to Mexico, where the army confiscated both the plane
and its load of cocaine, Politwook decided to look there.
The Mexican government had passed a series of freedom of
information laws starting the early two thousands, which led to
the creation of a federal institute charged with receiving and
responding to public information requests. I began a formal process
(05:35):
in the A five the Freedom of Information Acts for
Organization or Institute of Mexico. That it was a bureaucratic
and incredible process. It had more than one year. Politzook
filed multiple information requests, but the government kept rejecting the requests,
stating national security concerns. Politicook sought out and made contact
(05:59):
with the simple judge and refiled his request five times
until it was assigned to that particular judge that then
released the documents. Well, the files were all heavily censured,
with most names crossed down. He did find something, but
there was a name that I found and it was
blenk hos blank Yossenia. That he has more names, and
(06:23):
this is what I found. His identity in Venezuela was
Raoul Himenes Alvaro, a Mexican pilot who was remembered in
the airport because of a big Rolex watch. But there
wasn't more and at this time it was like the
(06:47):
Earth ate him. And in the Mexican case, the name
was Ernando Blenkio Sessenia. Here's the most important thing you
need to know about the drug business in a game.
In every country in the world in which there's a
significant market in illicit drugs, the people that control that
(07:08):
market are the same people that control the country. That
is the voice of Daniel Hopsicker, an independent writer who
specializes in investigating organized crime, is dedicated more pixels to
following the story of Cocaine One than probably any other reporter.
You can find an archive of one hundred or so
articles related to Cocaine One on his blog We'll hear
(07:29):
more from Hopsicer later on, but for now, let's take
a moment to reflect on this proposition. If you believe
in any version of either liberal or neoliberal political theory,
then you'll start rolling your eyes now, because you probably
believe that the police exist to keep people safe, and
that modern states build and maintain armies to protect their
borders from invasion. You might think that people and borders
(07:53):
need all this protection because there's an awful thing called
human nature that inexorably drives people to be nasty to
each other. For this theoretical lens, one could believe the
ubiquitous claim that the police and the armed forces fight
drug traffickers and terrorists to keep everyone else safe. The
main problem with this lens is that it is useless
(08:14):
for describing and analyzing actual events. Just as the George
Bush Administration's War on Terror set in motion a vast
global proliferation of acts of terror, the US created drug
wars have redesigned, fueled, and invigorated the illegal drug markets.
If one spends time researching the history and the present
(08:36):
of the transnational illegal drug trade, hopsickers claim that the
people that control that are the same people that control
the country becomes obvious. In January twenty twenty one, colleagues
at the Give reached out to me about a curious
individual they've been interviewing using a clandestine's cell phones from
(08:57):
inside of prison in North Carolina. The man claimed to
have worked as a pilot entrepreneur and air logistics coordinator
in the international drug trade for some thirty years. My
friends Attictive who produced a podcast in Spanish, and wanted
to know if I'd be interested in working on a
sister podcast in English looking into this man in his story. Sure,
(09:18):
I said, but I need to do my own investigation
and see what I can find that they Thieven invited
the legendary Mexican actor Joaquin Kocio to read the English
translations of Transportista's quoted interviews with Manuel Ladius. My name,
sadly is John Gibler, and this, in a sense is
Transportista episode three next to the Presidential Hangar. On Sunday,
(10:06):
June nine, twenty thirteen, Joseph Polzu published an article in
the Caracas based newspaper Eluni Versal with the headline the
Chapel connection. Palizu excites it. Two thousand nine Decision one
of the Mexican court documents he received after a year
of legal wrangling with Mexico's Freedom of Information Institute. The
(10:27):
document says the following From the court testimony of Albino
Quinto Meras, it follows that he recognized the participation of
Fernando Blenchio, and from the testimony of Maximo Biscaro Greece,
which is established that Fernando Blenchio went by the name
Raoul Himenes Albano. That bit of information enabled Polzuk to
(10:50):
connect Fernando Velochia, then I prisoned in the United States,
with the witness testimonies of Venezuelan airport workers describing a
pilot called Raoul with the Mexican accent and a big
gold rolex. This Rahun often appeared at the Micatia Airport,
both flying and checking on planes, and was last seen
(11:12):
in early April two thousand and six waiting for a
plane to be delivered from Florida. Polizuk emphasizes that the
DC nine not only took off from Return two and
took off again from Venezuela's largest international airport, but that
in doing so it had to pass right by the
presidential hangar. He also reported that two National Guard officers
(11:36):
uncharacteristically took charge of supervising the planes take off. Those
guards were never charged with any crimes, though the airport
workers who serviced the plane and the co pilot arrested
in Mexico were all convicted for crimes related to the plane.
In Mexico, a co pilot was sentenced to thirty two
years and six months in prison. Politoo published the second
(12:03):
of two articles on the DC nine a week later
on Sunday, June sixteen, with the headline Cartel Infiltrated Makeetia.
He again cited court artuments obtained in Mexico that revealed
the Falcon twenty business jet, also confiscated in garment, had
itself flown in and out of Makeetia Airport in Venezuela,
(12:24):
using the same runway as the DC nine love Line aircraft,
and it was interesting to understand that the Mexican cartels
were in Venezuela and not just in the country. His
aircraft landed and began the flights from a specific angar
(12:51):
located next to the Presidential angard of Ugo Chaves. Politok,
with help from Reyes from VC was able to correspond
to Plank, I talked with him, I contact him, and
it was a very interesting experience as a journalist. It
was of the record. I just wanted to understand his role.
(13:12):
But more than him, it's important that we understand that
he was one of the pilots of the Chappo Guzman.
It was not just about him, it was about the
Sinaloa cartel through him. It's obvious that we can understand
that the Sinaloa cartel has or had an operation in
(13:36):
the country. But more than this again, and I am
highlighting this part. Next to the presidential anger when it
spoke with me, political emphasized several times the fact that
the cocaine flights were landing and taking off from an
area of the Micatia International Airport right next to then
President Google Charles's presidential hangar. I asked him if he
(14:00):
thought that this fact then that it would have been
impossible for Charvis not to support it or at least
known about these drug place for a long time. Chaves
was accused to support and his government even being part
of the narco traffickers and the narco traffic cartals. Anyway,
(14:20):
I think that this is one of the most important
cases that are related with the Chavist administration. And with
that case, you can suppose that the Chavish administration I
didn't cooperate with the cartals. They had to know to
(14:44):
have news about that ap So far, we've heard about
Fernando blank Hio s signa. Now it's time to hear
(15:07):
from him. As I've mentioned. In January twenty twenty one,
Diego Sarno asked if I would be interested in working
on an English language version of a Spanish language podcast
called Transportista. One of the conditions for taking this assignment
was that I have to use the English language audio
of blank Hill's translated interviews. Detective hired the legendary actor
(15:31):
Juaquinkosio to record blank Hill's part in the Spanish podcast
back when they had planned to translate the entire podcast
into English. I am Transportista. That's when I am. That's
Faquinco SiO. Manuel spoke a blank Hill inside prison. I'm
currently locked up in a prison in North Carolina called
Reverse Correctional Facility using a cell phone. He'll get a
(15:54):
cell phone in prison. He didn't pay off anyone to
be able to use a phone. Well, smuggle them by
a drone. A phone can cause your big bags anywhere
from three to five thousand dollars. Was a risky to
talk on themselves. The guards regularly come around every thirty
minutes patrolling the corridors, but sometimes in normal conditions they
(16:19):
will raise the sales those search and that's when we
have to be hitting most careful. In case your cocks
with a phone. Knew you have to pay with ninety
days in the whole, meaning soliditary confinement and forty one
days of good behavior are taken from you, which is
the penalty we want to avoid. From the beginning of
(16:41):
this project, I knew I would need to use those
recordings to tell a version of the story that Blank
you have told Detective I'm not a pilot. By coincidence,
there were a series of circumstances that let me move
more quickly into my career. I also told Diego back
in January, but instead of doing a narrative podcast, since
(17:01):
I had not done any of the interviews of Blank, Yo,
I would have to do something focused on the telling
of the story instead of simply telling the story. That's
why I started out speaking with other reporters who have
had contact of blenk Yo. But there was another issue
for me. When I listened to the Spanish podcast and
read the full transcripts of Manuel's interviews with Blank Yo,
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I realized that I didn't trust Blank Yo, and thus
that my mistrust would influence how I would approach the
story or the course of the next few episodes. We'll
listen to parts of Blank Hiell's oral autobiography as told
to Defective. I'll use both Cosille's recordings and my translations
(17:48):
of and reading from the interview transcripts to trace the
tale that blink Hill told. Blink Hill's story sounds a
bit like a drug trafficking noir thriller written by Mel Brooks,
a Hollywood tale of crime as a comedy of airs.
Those guys didn't blow up the plane again. Back coordination
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I heard of. Fies ambushed us. They took us to
the back there, Aretel, They luck us up in our rooms.
They knew who we were, They knew practically everything. Next
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Time Transports is a detective a production with Exiled Content
Studio in partnership with Iheartradios Michael Tua Podcast Network, Directed
narrated by John Kebler. Transportsa's voice by Harquin Cosio. Editing
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and sound design by Ferrando La Rossa and Pedro Garcia.
Reporting by John Gibbler Emanuelarios, produced by Julu Gonzalez. Voice
recording by Ugo Merino and Rene Garcia. Transportisa's interviews translated
by Carlo riz Argais. Production supervision by Nandouila and Alvarosespetes.
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Associate producers Alonso Hilar and Alejandro Duran Diego and Rique
Sorro Is the creator and executive producer, along with Danielle
Ailembert and Ezaclei. Executive producers for iHeartMedia are Conald Byrne
and to Sell Banzes. The song Says Pordo Rico is
from the Corrason Janero Multimedia YouTube channel. For more podcasts
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from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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