Two Ts Presents: Talking Traitors with Tamra Judge

Tamra recaps The Traitors episodes 1-4 with guest cohost, Janelle Pierzina.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to Talking Traders with Me Tamra Judge. Okay,
you guys, welcome to our very first episode of Talking
Traders with Tamra Judge. I am your host, Tamra, and
I'm excited to recap the season of The Traders and
give you my opinion. Yeah, that's my opinion of everything Traders.

(00:24):
My co host today is a legend in the reality
competition world. She's played Big Brother four times, played The
Amazing Race, and One Snake in the Grass that is
also a peacock show as well. Right, I want to
welcome my Trader's co star and friend, Janelle Persina.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank you for having me, Tamra. I'm so excited to
be here.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Did you ever think that we were going to be
friends when we started on Traders?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So I always thought I would be friends with you.
I most blondes don't get along, but I knew I
would get along with you.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, I mean I knew the second that I had
to hide your tracks in the back, I'm like in
her hair, I'm like, we're going to be friends forever.
There was a moment that, you know, everybody told me
to be afraid of you because you're so good at
competition games, and you know, being a housewife, I've never
played a competition game before, and I didn't know. I
really did not know what I was doing. Ye didn't.

(01:18):
I mean it was obvious, but anyways, but I would
always see your mind kind of working, like you would
be sitting on a couch and you just be just
dazing at the other side of the room, and I'm like, ah,
she's thinking. This girl is thinking NonStop.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I was always playing the game. And I remember
meeting you as well, and I was like, I had
a really good idea that you were just a faithful
so I was like, we can just speak open and
honestly here. And I always loved talking to you and Larsa.
I never trusted Charae, but I always did trust you.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's funny because there was a I had, you know,
Charrey's one of my friends. So I had suspicion of
Charay early on because she was acting different. Yeah, she
was just kind of quiet and kind of cold almost,
and I'm like, okay, something's up with her. So I
put a question out on Instagram, just some general questions

(02:09):
for us, and I'm gonna go ahead and ask you, Okay,
they wanted to know. Did we know each other before filming? No?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Absolutely, no, I mean I know I knew of you,
of course.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I used to watch your old seasons with you and
Gina and like a couple of fights, and I remember,
oh boy, I don't watch the new stuff. So but
it was nice because I did watch Ultimate Girls Trip
at Derinda's house, so I got you and Phedra again
and I was like, oh my god, I love them.

(02:42):
So it was so nice. I think that's another reason
why she right didn't really care for me too much,
is I don't know who the hell she was.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I was like, oh, did you know going into Traders?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
So I had met Rochelle before. Obviously I played with
Dan in seasonteen, I had met Sandra before. I think
that's pretty much it for just meeting people in general.
And then of course I knew who you and Phedra were,
and I know who Larsa is because I actually have
a really good friend of mine was on Real Housewives

(03:13):
of Miami Joanna Krupa. Oh yeah, so, I mean, and
I think I'm on like a cameo in one of
the episodes or something. So, so you used.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
To live in Miami, I did. Yeah, see, if you
were still in Miami, I think that you would be
on the Real Housewives of Miami.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh I would love it. Yeah, I think I know
a great time.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I text Andy because actually Andy text me and said,
oh my god, this show is so good. And then
we just started chatting about the show and I brought
up your name, and I'm like, she's so good. If
there was a Real Housewives of Minnesota, you know who
had to cast, and he said, she is so good.
So yeah, maybe we can get on watch what Happens Live's.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Let's try at anything. I mean, I know Minnesota's kind
of boring, it's Midwestern, but it hasn't been done before,
and if anyone can do it, maybe I can.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Are you from Minases Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Born and raised. Yeah, I lived in Miami, New York
and Los Angeles and then I actually years ago I
reconnected with like a college boyfriend and I ended up
coming back to Minnesota and.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You married him.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I did, Yeah, wow, and.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You got married? What in twenty ten? Did I read?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, three kids later, Yes, work in real estate. Yeah,
I love it. What was your favorite part of filming?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So, my favorite part of filming was always the breakfast.
To me, it was very exciting. It was a very beautiful,
like type of set. I just loved that. It was
nice and bright. I love breakfast in general, so I
just thought, Wow, I really enjoyed filming the breakfast stuff.
It was fun for me.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
That was fun. I think it was. I mean, we're
not exerting too much energy. We're just sitting in one room,
so it's good.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It is very suspenseful too, I mean you are, yeah,
holding your breath.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Knock on the door. Yeah, Oh my god, what do
more paranoid? Big Brother? Are traders?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think traders did? I mean I was so paranoid,
like I would just wake up angry from the day
before and just start to spiral a little bit. It
really did cause a lot of paranoia because it's so
and I feel like in Big Brother, I could calm
myself down and make like more I don't know, more

(05:27):
calm decisions, more direct, more strategic, and take the time
to like really think about things.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Where don't you feel like traders like their goal was
to make us feel paranoid?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Absolutely? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean from the second that I got off the
plane at the time I got into my room, they
went through my luggage. They took my phone from me.
I mean every like they're patting down my clothes, opening
up my shampoo, smelling it to make sure I don't
have I don't know what drugs or something in there,
like I'm gonna drink my shampoo bottle. I mean, I
started feeling paranoid from the get go. Yeah, and let's

(06:04):
just not I mean unless you're in your you know,
like I don't know the TV's on and the time
flashes or the day flashes. You don't know what time
it is, you don't know what date it is, and
I'll never forget, like being on a mission in the
Scarecrow mission and the producer was, you know, near me,
and I go, what day is this? She goes, she

(06:25):
looked at me, and she goes, I don't know. I
don't know, And I'm like, okay, so we're not asking
that question again. So there's a question. Would I do
celebrity big Brother?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
No, you wouldn't. No. I think you'd be good to
know that you've done traders, so you could do so well.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
To me, how long? How long are you in the house?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, if celebrity is a lot shorter, it's just a month.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh only a month? Yeah, five days.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
No, you do really well at it.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Here's the thing. I am such a homebody. Yeah that
I love being a home that. I mean, go on,
let's go out to dinner. No, that's all right, I'll
just cook it home like I love to be at home.
So leaving my house for thirty days stressed me out
so bad for traders, I really think that's why I
got so sick.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, you were sick.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh my gosh, oh my god. Which people don't realize.
Like the first episode, it takes it takes days to
film the first episode, So I got sick probably after
day two or three. I was literally yeah, I was
literally out, and I was wondering how it was going
to be edited. But I was out for four days.
So we had some press days, we had a day

(07:37):
off we had so I was, oh, I honestly thought
it was going to die.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Now let's talk about housewives. If there was a Housewives
of Minnesota, yeah you do it.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Of course I would love to. But again, I don't
know where they're going to get this drama from. I mean,
it's literally like random people playing hockey and they're just
cold and miserable with their lives.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
That can piss off people, that can make them very angry.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Don't you think I think so. I mean, I'm sure
they could find some way to make it like very entertaining,
but it's you know, it's it's really long winters there
in Minnesota. It's just quite miserable. The summers are beautiful.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, Salt Lake City. They managed to make it work,
and it's yeah, if there's is there any other reality
show that you'd want to be on?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh? I think I should move up. I think I
should move to Orange County, tam Or what do you think? Well?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I would love that we have we have some filming
to do next week and I have the opportunity to
bring a friend. Can you just fly in and go
with me?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
We'd love to absolutely. Yeah, it's helpswives. I think Dealer
No Deal Island looks fun. I think anything with strategy,
really anything where my mind has to work and I
really have to think about things and I can take
like a little bit of a risk. I am a
little bit of an a dread and junkie, so I
do like that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, what's next for you? Do you have something you
have your eyeset on.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, I really don't focus too much on TV stuff.
To be honest with you. I am a businesswoman. I
sell a lot of houses. I'm very involved with my family,
so I don't really know what's next for me. If
something comes up, I always consider it, but I well,
no requests for like random shows.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I bet you do. But now that you've been on
Traders and you're back in the public eye, you know
something else is going to come your way pretty soon.
You know that, right would you do Big Brother again?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I would not do Big Brother again? No way, It's
just too long of a time period. They usually gun
for me right away, Tamra. If you've seen the show,
it's like really annoying because I've played more than anyone
in our country, so they just got me right away.
They're just like, oh nope, we got to go for Janelle.
She's dangerous and so I'm usually out right away.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh yeah, see. I was afraid of that. As for Traders,
but I didn't know that I was walking into some
of the biggest gamers out there that I'm like, I'm
a freaking nobody. I'm a nobody on this playing field
right here.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I feel like you had really good reads though, camera
and you know, you could all I felt like you
could always sense who the faithfuls were, and you were
really you were nervous about poverty and Dan.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh I knew Dan. You know how LARSA said she
heard the top. Yeah, I heard Dan. I heard his
It was his jacket, you know, yeah, Alan in the
future don't wear such a starch jacket. So I heard yeah,
because he walked around quite a few times. But I
heard the jacket go up and I knew it was Dan.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, Lars didn't even hear anything.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Poverty was recruited, I know, which is weird, but I
definitely heard that so anytime. But you know, he could
have just moved his arm or whatever. But I heard that,
and I'm like, oh god, I know Dan.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
You hear like every little thing though, because you're so stressed.
That's what people don't realize. Like when John's breathing thing happened,
Oh my gosh, I was like, I literally have to
say something because the man was struggling to breathe right,
And I you know, I'm trying to play like a
quiet game. I'm like, I don't want to be that person.
I don't want to say anything, but I'm like, I
just have to.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, I don't feel like you held back by any mean,
but you know early on in the game, and we'll
get into it in a minute, but you're just looking
for any suspicion. You're looking for maybe somebody that's caught
in a lie, maybe somebody that's looking nervous. You know,
somebody's breathing heavy, because at the beginning, you don't know anybody,
you don't know. I know. There's a couple headlines that

(11:41):
have come out of from Traders being out just for
what are we on episode four? Now? So The Trader
Season two becomes Peacock's most watch reality premiere. I mean,
that's amazing. Up seventy five percent from season one.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Incredible.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So that was a Variety article. It is in its
first five days on the platform. The Trader Season two
has become the most watched reality series debut on Peacock.
The streaming reaches up more than seventy five percent in
season one, I mean and season one run emmy, So
I know, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think with the cast, of course, people are going
to tune in. We all have so many fans and
they're so different so different, so well, of course it's
going to be crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean it beat out The Real Housewife's Ultimate Girls Trip.
I know, Love Island, USA, Love Island Games, and Queen's Court,
so it's huge. Another huge article that came out was
Kate Chastain makes a surprise return to Traders for season two.
I think you missed me is what she says when
she walks in. I was actually shocked to see Kate

(12:51):
come to play. Kate is one of the only people
that knew that I was cast on Traders, and so
I reached out to hers, like any pointers, any tips
and anything. She goes, girl, it's like going to prison,
and I'm like, what she goes. There's no talk in
the outside world. You're you know, you're in it. It's

(13:14):
like your mind's in it, your body's in it. You
don't have anywhere else to look or go. And I'm like, Okay,
thanks for making me feel better. But she's not the
only familiar face that's back, big brother, doctor Will Kirby. Yeah,
now I know, Doctor Kirby. You did did you date him?

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I mean we had like a little showmance thing going on.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's like just for TV purposes, Like I had a boyfriend,
he had a girlfriend, but we were living together for three.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Months, right, so you there was some sparks there.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mean, it was more friendship and flirting if anything.
I think we both liked flirting with each other, and
we were both trying to advance ourselves in the game.
So he used me as much as I used him.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
So yeah, yeah, I got it. Let's go on to
the first episode. Okay, Now, so the first episode starts
out players are meeting each other at the castle. CT

(14:29):
and Trischelle were on the challenge together and did not
get along. Michelle says trust is earned. Poverty and Sandra
were on the same season of Survivor and Poverty loss.
Sandra won. Now, I was in the car with Poverty.
She was one of the first people that I met,
along with Dan. He was also in my car, and

(14:49):
we pulled up to the castle and Poverty looked over
and it's Sandra in the car next door. And she
just looked at her and gave her like the eye signal,
like I see you, and she like went, oh my god,
it's Sandra. So who were you most excited to get
out of the jeep and meet or see.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, I'm obviously a huge Housewives fan, so I
loved meeting you and Phedra. I'm like a huge Vadra fan.
I swear that's why they put me in her car.
They must have known her something, because I think I
tweeted about it. She and I got to know each
other so good those first three days.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
That must be why you trusted her so much.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I trusted that woman with my life. But yeah, I
was excited to meet the Housewives. I was. I didn't
know who Deontay Wilder was.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I didn't know who Dante was either, no clue.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I just know one in the cast except for Deontay,
which is just sad. But I was really excited to
meet Poverty. I had never met her before. Obviously, I
have played with Dan. I was a little bit nervous
at first, like, how is this going to work out?
Because just like the people that you had mentioned, Dan
and I have prior history as well. He was responsible
for me leaving the Big Brother House.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Did you keep in touch with Dan throughout these years?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah? I did keep in touch with him. It really
wasn't his fault completely, but it was like someone that
he was working with. Oh, it's a long story. I
won't get into that, but yes, Dan and I always
kept in touch, and even before I did my last
season of Big Brother, I was like, are you going
to show for this All Stars? And He's like, nah,
I'm not doing that. And this one I saw him.

(16:34):
IM like, god, I haven't seen him in like thirteen
fourteen years.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
They looked different, Yeah he did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, so we had history too, So yeah, to see
how all those dynamics and all those relationships can kind
of play out on TV.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I don't watch gaming shows like I just I don't
watch a lot of TV in general. So I really
didn't know anybody if you weren't on Bravo or I
knew of just because I've seen you know, he's been
around for so long with Dancing with the Stars. Other
than that, I really didn't know anybody. I've never even
like to say this, but I didn't even know about

(17:10):
the show The Challenge, never even heard it, never even
heard it. But I don't have MTVS. That might be
the reason I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Really watch the show either.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
But do you know the backstory about Trischelle and CT, like,
because because she had said that they had he did
something like that.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well she didn't. I don't think she really. She was
nervous about both Bananas and CT because she just has
trust issues with them in general. I mean, I think
I don't know what CT did to her specifically, but
it involved like a friend of hers or something and
trishall the game. I don't really know the details, but
she had some trust issues with him. Absolutely, were you afraid?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Not afraid, I don't know, but cautious of her knowing
her history on competition shows, Oh.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Not at all. I knew that I wanted to align
with her right away, so I was like, Okay, she's
a woman just like me and we come from competition shows.
I was like, me and Trischelle could easily work together,
and we did. We started working together like right away.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
It's so weird because I didn't know who she was,
but I got to know her pretty quickly. So sweet,
so kind, so little petite, little tiny girl, and you
think what she's like dangerous and competition shows.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, Well she's a poker player too, so she's very strategic.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I learned that.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So she she's a big thinker and she plays it off.
You know, she does her whole like ditsy thing or
whatever like plays it off.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Then the act isn't an act or totally is.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's just to get people's guards down with her. Yeah,
she's a very good game player.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh my god. So then the host Alan chooses the traders.
Dan is the first trader, then Phedra is the second trader.
And in my mind, because I watched season one, I
thought there was three traders. Yeah, right, and then right
and then and then Alan says, the traders are going
to be pulling in another They're going to recruit somebody new.

(19:04):
So in my mind I thought the entire time there
was four traders.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Me too, see I was always hunting for four.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. Did you want to be a trader?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh? I would have loved to be a trader? Are
you kidding me? I thought for sure they were going
to pick me. I was devastated when I wasn't picked.
I was like, seriously, said, I'm like, how dare they?
I know? Well?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Uh? I did press with Max and he said, like,
after I knew I wasn't a trader, I'm like, I'm
just a sitting duck now.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I mean that's kind of how it is. You are
a sitting duck.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Who did you think that Alan chose at the first
round table initially, so my eye.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Was always on Dan always because I'm like, okay, like
they're going to pick someone that's like a big draw
with strategy and stuff, and yeah, Dan's for sure getting
picked or Sandra, Like That's what I was kind of
initially thinking.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I kept thank you, Sandra, Sandra, Sandra.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's and Poverty like those three. To me, I was like,
one of for sure, one of them is going to
be a trader, like for sure. So that that was
my initial thing, and then I was kind of just
watching everyone. I felt like I knew right away that
Dan was a trader. I didn't. I mean I didn't
know right away. I I gunned for the first mission

(20:23):
thing like crazy, you know that because of the whole
John thing. I thought I need this shield more than anything.
I was vocal Junk could be.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
A trader, I know.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
So I went for the shield. But when I got
back to the castle with everyone, I talked to Dan
and I was like, he's a freaking trader. So I
knew him day one, and I knew Poverty the next
day because she was just not she was not she
was sneaky, she was not sharing anything.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
So sneaky, Yeah, so sneaky. Okay, so the first mission,
I'm out. I am in bed. I can barely get
out of bed. I felt horrible, But now watching it,
I'm like, thank god. If there's any mission that I
didn't have to participate in, this is the one that
I did not want to do. I hate water, I
hate swimming, I hate being cold. How bad was it?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
It really wasn't cold or anything. They gave us a
wet suit, which was really nice to them. I thought
they would just throw us in the water, so really
impressed about that. It really wasn't that hard. And I know,
like for TV purposes, like, oh my god, you guys
are tied up and the shields are The shield was
like fifty feet away. You could just see it.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh, you could see him.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I got the shield in a minute and a half
and I untied three people.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
But it also gave you the label of being selfish. Selfish?
Is that what it? Yeah? Selfish?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
But like I mean, other people that untied themselves also
went for the shield, but I had already gotten it.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Wait, remind me who was the last one still tied?
Was a burgie Burgie? Yeah, poor Burgie burglicious. He was
so cute, so sweet, so kind.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
A little baby bird.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I know, so you didn't have any like, don't even care.
I'm getting the shield. I don't give a shit when
anybody thinks no regrets.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Peter and I had to talk before that because Peter
and I were sitting like on both sides of John
and like we both kind of are like, we're so
screwed because we heard John breathe. We thought John was
a trader. So I was like, Peter, we need shields,
and He's like absolutely, So we were both freaked out.
That's how I knew right away that.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Peter was a faithful Were you okay? So I was
a little bit freaked out about Peter because Peter is
he was good at the game. He is good at
the game, so I'm like, he must be he's going
to be a trader. He's just too damn good. I
right away confused, you know, So it's to me it
was in confusing.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I mean, they have to make some faithfuls really good
and some really bad. You know, Kevin, So we're going.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
To talk about Kevin. We're going to talk about Kevin.
But so the episode ends where Phader and Dan meet
and Fadri like they meet for the first time and
then Fader's like yes baby, and then you know, we
go on to episode two. So episode two, Fadri and

(23:25):
Dan have recruited Parvety as their third trader. Poverty accepts,
but she won't know their identities until tomorrow night. Who
would you have recruited to be a trader?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I would have recruited Dan. Here's why. That man is
always going to be under a spotlight and very suspicious.
And I felt like, if I was a trader, I'd
recruit Dan because Dan has the I would have played
a totally different game by the way, tamer, I would
not have been going for shoot, that's for damn sure,
and I wouldn't be so you know, trying to find

(23:58):
traders and so annoying. But I would have recruited Dan
because if he were to leave the game and say
I am a trader, I would have skated through. People
would never think like why would there be two Big
Brother players? So it would have taken the spotlight off
of me absolutely.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Going into it and knowing that you did not get
chosen as a trader, by the way, that's kind of like,
did you ever feel like, really, why didn't you choose me?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh? Absolutely, I'm like Dan, seriously. Not only that, but
like Harvedy didn't have any friends in the house.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, no Faeder made that well known. Nobody likes you,
I mean poverty.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I feel like I feel like Trishelle and I were
Harvedy's only friends if everyone was so after her and
they were just like, she's a trader. So I feel
like it really wasn't that great of a choice because
he could have recruited someone. And I'm just saying like, oh,
you should have recruited me. But anyone that was more

(24:59):
social in the game, like Trishelle would have been a
great recruit people. She had friends, you know, and she
had intel from other faithfuls. That's the thing when you recruit,
you want to get that information from the faithfuls and
who they think is a trader?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah? And now did you did you think in your mind,
because you you come from a game, you know, gaming,
did you think there's a housewife, there's a gamer, and
there is who knows? Because we have we had a
few people that weren't on reality shows, like Deontae.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right, I thought for sure someone from Bravo I mean,
but obviously, as the game goes on and you guys
will see, but initially I was like, it's got to
be someone from Bravo. It's got to be someone from
like The Challenge or Big Brother or Survivor, And you know,
I just really looked at those people such a question

(25:54):
mark in that game for me.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Did you know who Eckensue was?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I had no clue who she was.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Nope, somebody just sent me a DM you know, people crazy,
They're like, oh my cousin dated her, but her name
was Susie. Oh interesting, and I'm like, okay, whatever, Okay.
So we're so the next morning, everyone meets for breakfast.
This is our first murder, and it is Johnny Bananas.

(26:23):
Do you think murdering Bananas first was a smart move
on the game?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I can see, well, okay, so maybe for my game
personally and some others, it would be a good move
because he's just so good and I.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Felt like, but he was loud.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
He was loud. The thing is is, I'm pretty sure
Dan saw how charismatic he was and how popular he was.
And we were all sitting in that billiard's room and
Johnny was playing the guitar.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, and he was singing people and he's very likable.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
He's very likable. He had everyone watching him like he
was on a stage.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
And well, he demands a lot of attention.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yes, and I like that to a trader is dangerous
in the game because you have the ability to get
everyone and say I know who a trader is and
we're coming for you.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah. So being loud and obnoxious, he was often obnoxious.
Do you think that's a good strategy.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't think being loud and obnoxious isn't a strategy
at all. But I think that that's just Johnny Bananas.
He commands a lot of attention.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, it obviously did not work for him.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I just I was quiet, like Dan, that's not going
to work with him. You know, would I have murdered
Johnny Bananas?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
No, you know, I'm sure the producers were like, no,
not him. He's so entertaining, I know, you know, for
from you know, producer's mind, like he's so entertaining. Oh
my gosh. But this I would have to say, this
is the first show that I've been on that you
do not I mean, you hardly see a producer. And
they told us that going in we Are hands off off.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I had no idea it was like that, especially those
round tables. Gosh, that was stressful.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well what was that song they played to us? It
always from the Hunger Games, right, Yeah, Hanging Tree or whatever,
Hanging tree. So we would literally sit at the round
table and look at you because you were right, We
were right across from each other. And it's I mean,
it's a beautiful room. It's dead silent. Cameras drop from

(28:36):
the ceiling, and then all of a sudden, it's like
a camera that goes rotates around the room. It gets
close to our face and nobody's talking, and they play
that song. I mean obviously they can't air it, but
they play it and it just puts your mind in
such like the weirdest place.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, it's to stress you out, and it's super creepy.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's so creepy. But oddly enough, like when I got home,
I would I played that song. I got so used
to hearing it I would play it. I'm like, what
is wrong with me? So in the next mission, the
players have split up in three groups. Each group will
follow a separate path and answer questions about their fellow players.

(29:15):
The scarecrows are the possible answers. If you're correct, it
will open the next question. The first question, whose opinion
do you value the most? Larsa or Marcus, I mean
all teams shows correctly. They definitely said Marcus. I mean
Marcus is. This is the first time I've ever met him.
I know Larsa, but he is such a voice of reason,

(29:39):
He's so calm, he's such an old soul. He's just
such a cool dude. So that that was an easy.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Wait, guy, I really liked him.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now the second question, I take great offense too. Who
is the most popular player? It wasn't us, so how
so how that happened was when we we got to
our rooms that night, there was a questionnaire on our
bed and it had all these questions. We had to vote,
and the votes were basically the answers to our next mission.

(30:12):
So it was between Deontay and Peppermint, which to me,
it was kind of a weird. Weird. It was weird
to me. I thought, like Phaedro for sure would have
been on there because Fadri's such a big personality and everybody, everybody,
I mean, I don't expect my name on there. Because
people think, oh my god, she's a raging bitch. But
I definitely thought Fadri's name was going to be on

(30:33):
there for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I actually did vote for deonce.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Did you vote for Deontay? I had just met him.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh he's just such a nice He's the guy, and
he's so smiley and kind, and it's like, oh my gosh. Yeah,
I definitely picked Deontay.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, I think that I did too. Now the third question,
who needs to speak up more? Dan ur cherat Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Dan? Absolutely? I voted for Dan.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, he was pretty quiet, quiet through the entire time. Now,
Dan is the only one to find a shield and
the team earned sixteen thousand dollars. Now, looking back, does
Peppermint being more popular make sense? Do you feel like
there was somebody else there that was more popular Pepper?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I feel like Larsa was actually popular.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah she was.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Larsa was very popular. She's an alpha, but she is
still very popular and everyone always tried to hang out
with her and be around her. So I would say, I.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Knowing Larsa, I saw her in a totally different light
on the show, really totally different. I'm like when she
was when I first saw her I'm like, oh, because
she's kind of she's quiet at times and she's not
very like she's not in your face, but oh my god,
oh she was. She was so vocal. It was so vocal.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
But yeah, needing the charge, like let's go.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Okay. So John is running full force and running.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I can't. When John's running and running in his mark,
I don't know, he's like a penguin almost like that.
I don't know. But he falls on his face, like
literally slides down, pops back. But you know what, he
was pretty fast runner.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
He was incredibly fast.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah. Yeah, but the entire scene was hilarious and John
like just full sprint while I ask him, do you
have an inhaler?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But you were like coughing to you. I wish I had?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Do you have an inhaler? So funny, which I actually,
you know, being as sick as I was, I had
a medic and a doctor that was checking on me,
and they gave me antibiotics and an inhaler and all
that stuff. So I stupidly left it because we didn't
really carry purses or anything. So I left it in
my room and I'm I'm like dying and I'm Like

(33:01):
then I thought, strategically, this is a good move, this
is my housewife move. I'm gonna ask John if he
has an inhaler because he had said he had asthma. Now,
if you have asthma in your breathing hard at the
round table after you took your blindfold off, you have
it bad where you have an inhaler on you, right.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, like it's literally in your back pocket because you're
gonna go on a run.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean, m hmm. But that that whole scene of
us at the round table talking about it went viral.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's more funny than anything. But it's just like, that's
what makes the show so good is like we have
nothing to go on, and like John's breathing was like
the biggest thing at the castle that we could even
talk about or think about.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, I mean, guys, you have to understand, we don't
know we don't know who the traders are, so we're
looking for any clue. Are you lying? Are you breathing hard?
Are you blinking too hard? Are you overacting? Like? What
are you doing? That is? I don't know, it's just
but anyways, So the episode ends, Faeder Dan Parverty meet

(34:07):
for their traders meeting, Dan wants to see if Poverty
reacts and know, you know, how they're doing as traders.
Poverty is absolutely shocked. My question is why do they
call Parverty the Black Widow?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
So she is part of the Black Widow Brigade and
one of her main alliance members was Surree who won
Trader season one, and it was actually Sirree, who is
a strategic, you know, mastermind in this she was the
head of the Black Widow Brigade, but Poverty was like
her number one soldier that would literally take these young

(34:40):
men and get them to do anything to give up
their games so they could get them out of the
way and win the game. And Poverty yea, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Moving on to episode three, it starts out with Poverty
has joined Phaeder and Dan as traders. They debate on
who to murder Partoni suggest Deontae, Dan suggests Marcus, and
Phaedri suggest Chanelle. Now this is the girl that you
have rode hard for Janelle. Phaedra wanted you gone. How
does that feel?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
You know, I'm not surprised. I think I think she
was probably maybe a little fearful if me and I
don't know why, I mean, I would have protected this.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Woman at all cause but now, looking back, do you
feel like Phaedra was playing you?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I I don't know, I really don't know. It is
a whole heart that everything that she said to me
was true when she would come up to me in
the bathroom tell me that she's got my back, and like,
I want to believe that's.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
True, but it's Isn't it so hard to banish somebody
even though it's a game that's praying over you all
the time?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh? Absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So everybody enters the breakfast in the group, Marcus has
been murdered. Marcus says in his interview he was too
much of a threat and people were jealous he had
larsa Now, I was concerned when I saw Larcus, Marcus
and Lars alone together because I felt like as a strategy,

(36:14):
that's people would want to break him up. Do you
think that Marcus was the right move to murder?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah? They absolutely had to be broken up. Yeah, I
mean it's you have to. They're together, they're going to
vote together, and you know, the Bravo people, there's a.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Lot of the Bravo people. You know, it's all over
social media.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Now, I mean you guys had like a whole group
and Ecinste was trying to get in there too, So
I mean, I can see why the traders would, especially
Dan and Poverty, would be like yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well. Then we arrived at the graveyard, which probably is
one of my favorite missions.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
The mission was to find goal. We were they will
bring the gold to the willbar and added to the
prize fund. There were three shields to be found. I
found one. Yeah, son't you The players will be eliminated
if they walk into the searchlight. I think it was cool.
We did it in the middle of the night, which

(37:18):
you know was crazy. John is the first one out
and we were dying laughing because they didn't I don't
think they really showed it, but he literally was. It
was hilarious. He was caught by the light and then
he kept going and he did.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
These little like a cat burglar.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yes, he kept moving and we're like you're dead, and
he's like huh, We're like you're dead. And then Bergie
gets eliminated. But Bergie figures out the patterns of the
lights and he's helping us as we're out there. I
find a shield. Peter actually helped me with the shield,
and that's where I really started trusting Peter. And then
Peter got a shield, and then you got a shield too.

(37:58):
But let's talk about your shield, because yeah, because Ekin
Sue said she had the shield. But we obviously see
now from the footage that it was obvious that you
were there before Ekan.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, Peter and I. Peter and I were also working it,
just like you. He's such a nice guy, and he
was like, Janell, do you want a shield? I was
like yeah, he said to me, yeah, and so he said, okay,
let's go, and so we ran over there and he
starts knocking it the thing on the whatever, the little
shield symbol and eck and Sue comes behind me and
she's like, got her hand on my back. I'm like, girl,

(38:31):
I was here way before you.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Now. She told me that you elbowed her really hard,
bitter and hitter and bitter and all these things.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Bro, I didn't touch you. My hand was on it.
She tried to come in and you can hear her
kind of brunting in it, like, ah, there's no way
she was getting that first.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
But it's so crazy because the overacting on her part
because I didn't see it really pay attention to it
and see really what happened. But she was like, oh
my god, like you know, I was there, I had
it and she hit me, and I'm like, oh my god,
this Janelle is horrible.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm thinking, like, this bitch is crazy. Janelle is to
go meanwhile, like I was there way before her and
the entire time, like I walked up on her. I
told you this, Tamera. I walked up on her telling
the story to Larsa and I saw her go like this.
I'm like, is she seriously talking about me?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
She was.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
She was, and I love her. I think she's so sweet.
She's so cute. But I'm like, girl, that did not happen.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
It screwed up my game for sure, be cause I
was like, dude, I'm just going for a shield to
save my life. I was almost murdered the night before
I came into breakfast freaking last so of course I'm
going to watch a shield. But you freaking fader try
to murder me the night before, your.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Best friend, the one you trusted your life.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Now, I felt like I really needed it, and she
was just like really, now out light on me again.
I'm like, I do not want to be like, That's
why I was like when people would ask her, I
was like, it really wasn't that big of a deal
because it wasn't that big of a deal to me.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But she made it a big deal. Do you think
she made a big deal that was part of her gaming?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
No, I don't think so, because she would have said
that on the show. I think you know how when
you compete and you you lose or something, and your
mind creates its own reality, yeah or whatever, and you're
just pissed off, and she just felt like saying that
I took it from her.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
So next we're at the round table. Dan says he's
a faithful and it takes some time to open up.
Larsa says that Dan's calmness is uneasy to her. Max
says that the conversation between eck and Sue and Janelle
was strange. Ecken Seue says Max has taken the attention
off of him. Deanta says Max switched up on him
and started acting suspicious. Max is banished. But is it faithful?

(40:56):
You said Deontay changed her mind? Who were you initially
going to banish?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Oh God, I was gonna write Ecnsue's name down. I
thought it was so weird that she was like targeting
me and making up lies. I was like, you are
freaking nuts. I thought she could be a trader, because
why would would you do all that? Why would you
you know, it's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Deontay changed my mind as well. I was he was
so convincing. I was initially going to vote for I
think Kevin because Kevin just bugged me. Kevin just ate
with his mouth open. I didn't even care if he
was a trader or not. I just wanted him gone. Yeah,
he was just so annoying to me. They have to
choose someone to murder with a poison chalice right here,

(41:42):
and it's hidden in the library. Parverty and Dan debate
on poisoning either John Chara or MJ. Party and Dan
decide to go behind Phaedra's back to poison Charat. Parverty
enters the bar with a chalice. Padrin noticed. She sets
the cup in front of Ai Charat. Vadri says, she
knows this is a game, but Shre won't be murdered

(42:03):
on my watch. Well, I know. Parverty leaves the bar
and enters the kitchen. She places a child. It's next
to MJ. But Parverty doesn't think she'll drink out of
the rest of the yellow cup. Poverty is trying to
figure out who in this room will drink this cup. Now,
you were in that room. She did not go towards you,
but you saw this go go down. You saw did

(42:26):
you ever think like we we I mean, we talked
about this. We thought maybe it was Larsa because Larsa
did the cheers thing. We're like, yeah. And then I
thought maybe it was Kevin because Kevin was eating everything
in sight that night.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
So I was like, well, if you remember, we were
all at breakfast, Alan says in plain sight, and I
thought it meant in front of everyone. That's why I
honed in on the Larsa thing.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, everyone, it made sense to me, made everyone.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Drink, and I might on that. I'm like, that's gotta
be that's a little strange, weird whatever, And that was
all I could come up with. I didn't think that
it could just be like a few people in a room.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, did you think it was shady of them to
try to go behind Fader's back? Is that something you
would have done?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I wouldn't have went behind Padra's back. I mean if
I were a trader with her, I probably wouldn't be
being so devious and stuff. I really just like Fadra,
you know that.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So yeah, yeah, Now, Episode four is probably my favorite
episode so far. It was so good. So it starts
out with ecken Seue says when she leaves a show
and finds out who the trader is, she will f
them up hard. Parvety gives the cup for ecken Sue
to drink. Ecken Seue tells Parvety that she loves her

(43:42):
and would never think she's a trader. Parvety adores eck
and Sue, Sure she does, okay, so it's not okay
to murder her this way. Allen announces Deontay has left
the game. Now, we were all sad to see Deontay
leave the game. It was definitely emotionally too hard for him.
And you guys, you have to understand, like this show

(44:05):
is so emotional and it so like gets in your head.
But I mean, it was sad to seem leave the game.
But you saw him crying. He was crying. He just
set yeah in front of.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Us, and so he was really struggling with like this
game and how it affects your emotions, and he's a
very emotional guy, so yeah, just take it.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, so we were sad to see him leave. He
wasn't murdered or banished or anything. He just decided that
this game wasn't for him, which I totally get. But
watching this back, did you have any idea that poverty
was poisoning acind because it happened right in front of
your face.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I had no idea. I honestly, I was still trying
to think about this ecnsue in the round table thing,
and I was I was pretty pissed at Yeah. I
was like, dude, seriously, Like I didn't even want to
be in the same room with her. So I really
wasn't watching her.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeh, gotcha. Now, Janelle, I'll have a bone to pick
with you. So you say, if Phaedra left, you would
not be okay, But if any housewipe left, then you
would move on with your life and you wouldn't care
it what it cares.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I would care about you. Larsa not so much, because
like I was not that I like Larsa, but I
wasn't like working with her. Working with her. I felt
like you and I worked together, and I worked with.
I didn't have anything to do with sure a minute,
like an ounce of game with her, like I always
talked the game with you and Faedra and Larsa and MJ.

(45:42):
You know I just like I said, those first three
days in that car, you get a connection with something
you know. And I should have known better, but I
trusted that woman with my life.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Somebody said at around not at a round table, but
they'll breakfast. I can't remember who it was, and they said,
just keep in mind because every time we went on
a mission we were broken up into different teams. There's
always going to be a trader in your car. Yeah,
always going to be a trader in your car. And
you think back, like, oh shit, Like what did I say?
What did I do? But CT noticed that everyone from

(46:17):
Bravo is still here, so he is sensing a pattern.
And this is when CT kind of changed for me.
He was so nice and so sweet to me, and
then all the sudden, you guys, yeah, and then all
of a sudden, it was housewives, housewives, housewife. It has
to be a housewife. You say that the Bravo people
are clickie. Did you feel like the housewives were clique?

(46:39):
Because I didn't really feel that way.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh, I said that when I'm describing everyone, I felt like,
you know, and I'm just looking at things black and white.
I feel like Ravo was together. Yeah, Faithful Alliance was together,
and the Gamer Alliance was together. And so I was
just when I was in my confessional describing everything, I
was just trying to see how I fee into those
alliances when I was describing things, and I felt like

(47:03):
I was in multiple alliances anyway. I mean, I had
a Aedra, I wouldn't have voted you out, Shara, I
would have voted her out in a second.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I did not trust Charay in this game, and I don't.
It's so weird. And she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Really trusted MJ. I really trusted MJ.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
And I was of MJ a little bit because she
was anybody that's super vocal. I was so like suspicious
of because my whole strategy was to go in there.
Obviously I was sick. It was kind of God's and
I lost my voice, which you guys don't know. For
four days I had no voice none, like couldn't even speak.
So this was God, God's way of telling me to
shut the fuck up. But so I you know, it's

(47:44):
not my nature to go into a situation and just
like observe and be quiet. I'm usually super vocal, and
I thought, oh my god, people are people are going
to expect me because I'm a shitstirer on my show,
They're going to expect me to be a trader. So
I have to go in there like quiet and you
know whatever. But there was definitely definitely suspicion.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
To tell for me of why people weren't a trader
and why they were. I would always go by people
that would talk game with me, Like I always talked
to MJ about the game on who we thought the
traders were. Yeah, I would always talk with you about
my dumb theories on anything. Yeah, I had housewives theories
on why a housewife wouldn't be a trader and why
I think it's a man and all this stuff. And

(48:29):
there's certain people in the game that I didn't talk
game too, So those were always.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Do you know that Phaser would never talk game. I
actually called her out on it. I'm like, you never
talked game, it's starting to be a little suspicious, But
she always talked it with me. That's so, it's because
you're a gamer. She's smart. She's smart. I mean, you
calling Kevin a dumb faithful was hilarious. I'm just gonna
say that hilarious. I know. Okay, Okay, they are missing

(48:56):
mj eckin, suit and John. All three of them ended
up walking in to breakfast. So this is in the morning,
we got the knock on the door, missing mj eck
and suit and John. So Dan Parverty and Phaedri's reaction
to Echan walking in knowing the Parverty poisoned her the
night before, we're so obvious. They were just like.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
What what, Oh my god. I was like, Okay, this
isn't Why did I know?

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Why didn't we see that? Because we were just like,
we were so not focused. I know in the room,
I know, I know they are told that one of
them will die today since yesterday one of them was
poisoned by the traders. Now I really did think it
was Kevin, because Kevin was eating everything in sight. I

(49:48):
swear to God, he was just and then he'd eat
and food foul of his mouth. And I was just like,
oh my god. When Allen announced that somebody was poisoned,
I mean, our minds go wild because you have to
think about the night before what happened, Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Like you were immediately like the Wheelsworth's turning where like,
what in the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Well, even like the traders Worth run for a loop too,
because they were like, wait, did I poison her? Did
I not poison her? Like what the hell is happening
right now? And I think it was really funny that
Poverty poison Echin right in front of Dan, but Dan
still acted like you didn't even see it. Yeah, I'm like,
is that an act? I don't get it. Parverty tells

(50:31):
Dan that everyone thinks eck and Sue is a Trader
and will freak out when she is dead. Dan doesn't
think he can win the game without Phaedra. In the
Trader's conclave, he is working on using Poverty to take
a shot at Phaedra. Now I feel like that was
a pretty dangerous game. I don't know. I just I

(50:52):
always thought when we went into this, like the Traders
weren't supposed to go against the Traders. But now it's
getting to a point where Dan's like, Phaser needs to
go because I need to win.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, when you look at the alliances and the numbers.
Something's got to happen in the next two banishments.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, and then, let's face it, we weren't doing well
getting We have not gotten rid of one trader at
this point, and it's like so frustrating. So Me, you
and Peter all have shields and I mean, this has
to be one of the coolest visually missions that we have,

(51:29):
if you called a mission that we've ever done. I mean,
we are in this procession funeral, like all dressed in black.
I mean, it's just crazy. I'm like, this is how
I want my funeral to go down.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
It totally I want this when I die.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
I know. And so we literally are like, okay, this
is awesome, like, oh my god, we're walking. Well, actually
we're sitting and we're safe, so we don't have to
worry about it, and so we go. There's clues. The
first so it is who does Johnny trust the most,
and the answer obviously was Toshelle and CT. The second
clue was we're players that were born in the same year,

(52:10):
and you know that went down. Then Sandra says she
is shocked. This is what's I mean, Sandra, this is
the shadiest thing she's ever said. She is shocked that
she's the same age as Larsa because she thought Larsa
was ten to twelve years older than her. I'm like, I, well,
Sandra is horrible. Third clue were players who were on
a team in Red, So got that Parvety, mj ATK

(52:34):
and Sue with the last three standing. So it was like,
you know, there's three of them left. We are standing
to the side at the moment, and Parvety looked at
me and goes, oh my god, is it me? Am?
I Am I gonna die? And I at that moment

(52:55):
it was the worst acting I've ever seen. And she
even said in her inner I was doing method acting.
I'm like, no, you were doing shit acting because it
was so obvious. That's what gave it away from me,
right there. You are a trader. You're a trader.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, totally always knew she was a trader. I was
just trying to find the other traders I know.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
So that night at the roundtable, Janelle says, you say
it was suspicious that Larsa said cheers to Marcus at
the breakfast. Well, it's the only thing we really had
to go on, honestly. Between that. In Kevin's bad eating.
You think the cheers was weird, and Larcia says, I
think you're weird.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Weird because I went for a shield and I almost
was murdered the night before.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I think how selfish you are is weird. Well, it's
part of the game. Poverty says, actors and housewives have
the capacity to perform this part. Larsus says, we don't act,
we live our lives. Major tells Parvety that we are
not a gang because they were all like put into
this like housewife Bravo gang, which was not true at all,
says it appears that way. Why do you go so

(54:02):
hard to banish Larsa? What made you think she was
a trader?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I honestly didn't even think. I mean, I thought she
could be a trader, but I also felt like it
just she wasn't a trader. I banished Larsa just due
to the numbers alone. I was like the second that
she turned to me and said, let's vote out CT,
it made me really nervous, because.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Did you ever suspect CT I did.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I wasn't ready to get rid of him yet. So
she turned to me and you were we were all
standing there, and she said Jane, let's come on right now,
let's vote CT out. And I was like, who wha, whoa,
I am not ready to vout ct out.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't vote for Larsa. I wasn't ready
to vote Larsa out. I had conversations with her and
I felt like she's not a trader, like I just
I just knew she was not a trader. And then she,
Larsa says she's been a faithful since day one. And
then obviously we know what happens. You know, she gets
up there and she gets banished, and she's not a trader.

(55:06):
I mean, yeah, she's a faithful. Now, if Sharie and
Larsa would have voted Kevin, if they would have voted Kevin,
that would have been that he would have been vanished instead.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Well, now, what in the world, what if should we
think Charie? What is why didn't she vote for Kevin?

Speaker 1 (55:21):
And I don't know, I have no idea because that.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Would make them like, let me ask you something. Did
you guys have like a solidified like, hey, the five
of us are together, we should vote together alliance.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
And the funny thing is is that like the four
of us, was it four of us five of us.
I don't know, we didn't really even five. We didn't
even really talk game. We really didn't. We didn't even
really stick together.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
To me, it was like okay, like there was no
like listen, you know at that point in the game,
we're all trying to figure out who's who. So what.
I feel like after this episode people start coming together.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah, like I.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Have your back, Yeah, my back. I'll be your eyes,
I'll be your ears, Like, let's you know, what's a line.
I feel like the first few episodes, everybody's just trying
to figure out what the heck is going on.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
It's horrible.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
It's horrible. It's hard.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Me. I was like, I felt honestly, and I said
this in my confessions, but to make it the Larsa
voute for me was the hardest one because I was like,
I mean, I'm kind of working with her. I feel bad,
but it's like it was such a shaky thing because
the gamers were working with me too, and they were like,
she's trying to voteut CT and I'm like, mmkay.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
CT started getting suspicious to me.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
But so that it would have presented another name, I
would have hopped on that much better. Even if it
were Kevin. I would have preferred Kevin leave over Larson.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Even though Larsa was loud and brash and everything, she
was actively hunting traders.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
She was she was on a mission.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I was thinking I was nervous that she was going
to turn on me and be like, we should vote
Janelle out.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
But her intuition wasn't bad. She knew Dan was a trader.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
He had fantastic breeds.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah. So the episode ends where Faedra, Dan, and Parverty
meet up. Phaedri tells Parverty that it wasn't cool to
try and throw her under the bus like Fader was,
like pissed. Pissed Fador tells Party that no one likes
her and everyone thinks she's a trader. She tells her
to play fair or they will have more problems. She

(57:29):
also looked at Dan and said you too, like.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
She got him too.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
She Is it a smarter to you to try to
expose other traders?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yes, because it takes the spotlight off of you. I
think I think, do you think it's.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Too soon in the game though to do that, or
do you think it's no?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Because I think the way it was going to go down,
and I don't know the next episode, but I'm guessing
that Dan would have liked to get rid of Phedra
because she was so well protected she had. He talked
to me, He asked me what I thought of Fadri
and I said, oh my god, I trust her. She's
a faithful like and I told him I don't think

(58:11):
any of the housewives are faith or are traders. And
he was like, so yeah, really created, you know, he
was like, Okay, Well, Chanell thinks that the people that
she's probably close to think similar that they don't think
that Phaedra is a trader.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
So weird it is. So it's just a mind buck
After watching these first four episodes, how do you feel
the traders are playing anything you have done differently?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I feel like Faedra's by far playing the best. She
is a fantastic trader. She's gone undetected. You know, her
name has not come up in any circle that I've
been in, or any conversation where's Dan and Parverty's name
comes up every ten minutes, you know, So she's playing fantastic,

(58:59):
whereas Dan in a poverty. That's why I think they
talk start talking about putting the spotlight on party phedra
Is because they're just not as strong as Traders.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, yeah, Poverty, like I watch like I in person
like Poverty. I liked her, but watching the show, I
so annoyed with her. I'm like, you're such an asshole.
You really are such an asshole.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
She's yeah, she's not known to be like the nice
kindness girl, and that's okay, but when I.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
First met her, she was she was so sweet and
kind and she weighs like ninety eight pounds and I'm like,
oh my gosh, she's so cute. Like whatever. But anyways,
but you guys, thank you so much for tuning in
to the our Well, all four episodes of The Traders
from now on will be recapping once a week, and

(59:52):
we're going to find out eventually who the winner is.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
I know who I'm rooting for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I know who I'm rooting for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I'm rooting for the I'm always rooting for the Faithless,
the Camero.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I know. But we can't give it away, and we're
not going to give it away. So now it could
be one of us, it would be you guys, never know,
But thank you for tuning in, and we'll see you
next week,