November 2, 2021 • 30 mins
Imagine over the course of a few days going from starting pitcher for an underdog D1 softball team to making sports headlines across the country. Odicci Alexander and the James Madison University softball team became the Cinderella story of the 2021 Women’s College World Series, when she led the team to victory after victory against some of the toughest teams in college softball. Mon checks in with Odicci on her transition to playing professional softball and gains some insights to apply not only to the field, court, or training grounds but also to life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you know why you're doing something, I think that
drives you even more to do it and do it
your best. And I think that's why. You know, sometimes
you look at these athletes and you're like, why are
they so good? Because they're playing for something, They're playing
for somebody. They know what they're doing. You know, they
have a purpose. I knew while I was playing that game.
I gave my all. You should always give your all,
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no matter what. My wife definitely drove me. This is
what The Details a collaboration with Under Armour and I
Heart Radio, a sports and training podcast made for women
by women. I'm Monica Jones, a fitness coach, boxer, business owner,
and u A athlete. And I'm Meg Bogs, I'm a powerlifter, author,
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body positivity advocate and mother. Every episode, Monica and I
will talk to athletes, trainers, and experts and learn more
about how the body and mind work together in training
and competition. Today, we're talking about team spirit, finding purpose,
and breaking barriers with our guests professional softball player and
u A athlete, Odyssey Alexander. Unfortunately I was not able
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to make this interview, and I'm very jealous that you
got to talk with Odyssey Monica. But you know I've
been reading up and Hodyesty is well on her way
to legend status in the softball world. Yes, we missed you,
dearly Meg, and so for those of our listeners who
may not have been watching the news around the Women's
College World Series this summer, Honesty was pretty much the
star of the show. As a starting pitcher for James
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Madison University, she led her team to victory after victory,
including two major wins over the number one seed Oklahoma University.
Over the course of the tournament. Odyssey started every game,
and she pitched the entirety of every game except the
team's last, when she was subbed out in the fifth inning.
She left the pitcher's mound to a standing ovation from
spectators and fans. Odyssey through roughly one thousand fifty seven
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pitches Are you kidding me? During the entirety of the series.
By the end of her career playing with j m U,
she was named D one Softball Woman of the Year,
nominated for the Best Female College Athlete sp Award, and
named Softball America's in C double A Picture of the Year. Wow,
I'm just truly in all of what She's accomplished and
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she's only twenty three years old. She's an absolute superstar.
And that's the thing. While her college career has ended,
her professional career has just started. Not long after the
College World Series, the U s s s A Pride
professional softball team, signed Odyssey to play for them. On
top of that, Odyssey is taking on the important role
of inspiring young women of color to play the sport
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and finding new ways to support them. I mean, just wow.
That is seriously legend status and I am here for it,
especially knowing how many women she is inspiring now with
her story and her success. It's just truly incredible, Mom,
And I'm seriously jealous that I had to miss this conversation. Listen,
when I was twenty three, I'm pretty sure I was
still trying to figure out how to make protein smoothies
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and get to work on time. What I'm so excited
for this conversation. You guys, there are some gems you're
about to hear, so get ready. I cannot wait to
hear this conversation, So why don't we jump to it. Yes,
we miss you so much for this one, Meg, but
we can't wait for you to hear it. Let's get
it in Honestly, Alexander is a professional softball player playing
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as a picture with the US Essay Pride. Thank you
so much for joining us out of see. How are
you doing good? How are you? I'm too good. I'm
excited for this conversation though, Yes, I'm super excited. So
we're gonna jump right into it. Okay, can you tell
me a little bit about your journey into softball as
a sport. So I started softball when I was young,
and my grandfather inspired me to play this sport. He
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introduced me to the sport, he kept me going through
the sport. He took me through travelball, Dixie League, college,
and I figured out my why when I got to college.
And I guess that took me a very long way,
because here I am. I will say, I feel like
when you go through so many things like adversity and stuff,
you start to figure out yourself a little bit more.
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And I think in college that's what I started to do.
And I started to see myself grow, not just like
in the sport, but as a person. And I think
that's what you know, any sport, I feel like it
is about like you see yourself growing as a person.
I think that's the most interesting part, is like because
I see it myself and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Like I've changed in a lot of different ways, in
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good ways, um, and I feel like I'm becoming you know,
who God created me to be. That is one of
the best feelings in the world. And then it is
definitely something that sports can give us. Yes, honestly, you've
been an exceptional athlete since you were young, not only
in softball, but you also played basketball and volleyball, Am
I right? You're correct? Yeah, and you played for your
high school team. So what is it about softball that
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you love and I couldn't find in the other sports
that you played? UM, for one, that was the one
coach who did give me a chance. I felt like
I was never going to college. I never thought I
would get the opportunity to go, and if I did,
it would have been much much smaller like DO two
or D three. But having the opportunity from a D
one coach, I felt like it was someone who believed
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in me where I felt like most did it And
I think also that was kind of my motivation to
prove to people like I can do it. You know,
so taking the chance. I mean, that was my only offer.
Some offers started coming in after that, but I was
committed to them, so I stayed tuned to my commitment
and I wrote it out with Janiel that is that's
really dope. I remember being in my college attempts and
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looking at some of my teammates when we were younger
and just being like, Wow, it's so cool. These schools
are coming for y'all. Is really great. I'm like, I'm
barely getting off the bench, but y'all are a kid
in pursued It is dope, and I can't imagine that feeling.
So thank you for sharing that. It's It's definitely still
something that gives me goose bumps to hear about what
were some challenges that you had going from being a
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college athlete to a professional and how did you ever
come those Honestly, it was so much that happened after
the World Series. At one point I didn't think I
can handle it. Um. It was overwhelming, just because your
life kind of changes and what it changed in one day,
like over a night, and I'm like, okay, I'm really
on the spotlight right now, you know. But I think
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the biggest thing for me was just an adult part
because in college you have everything, you know. Time management
was my thing. In college, I had everything set out,
I knew everything I was going to do. Where now
it's like you have to do it on your own,
which is something I didn't do in college. So I
would definitely say time management. I'm always on time, not late,
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but it's just hard, you know, figuring out everything you
have to do every single day. You know what I
want to go back because I was listening to what
you were saying about going for softball and feeling like
others considered you overlooked. Why do you think they considered
you overlooked? I would definitely say just because of where
I come from UM, And I think now that's such
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a big thing that I would try to invest in
is no matter where you come from, you can do
what ever you want to do UM. So here at
AU UM Athletes Unlimited. In Chicago, I play for the
Natasha Wadley Foundation, which is a foundation basically giving back
to those who aren't from like big cities or who
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don't have the expensive bats or anything like that. So
I think that's something huge now to to basically to
help continue to grow the game and grow these young
female black athletes they want to play softball. So just
giving back and just helping to grow the game, yes,
I can. I can absolutely see that being such a
fulfilling part of what you do now, and I love
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that you're a part of that. So what have you
learned from working with the team and relying on others
rather than just being a singular player? Um, I mean
that's all the part about growing. When I first went
to college, I was not a very talkative person. Um.
There were some things you have you have to learn
about your teammates, you know, before you basically just go
at it. For me, I know, I like to observe
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and then go from there, get to see how people
are and stuff like that. But you can't do it
by yourself. That's something I also had to learn leadership,
and I wasn't always the vocal one. I was more
of the said it by example, you know. I will
say in the World Series, I didn't want to be
with anybody else, but those girls doubts that we had,
I feel like, really pushed us to, you know, prove
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to like the whole softball world or the world that
a mid major school can do it, you know, and
we believed in each other. We trusted in each other,
and the main thing is we stayed within each other.
We knew what we had and we came to you know,
just compete and play Jamus softball. That is inspiring And
I remember when all that was going down. Yeah, that's
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that is so dope to be speaking to you now, Like,
I'm really honored to speak to you about that experience.
It was fun. So who were some of your role
models in the sport growing up? It's so many girls
out here that I actually idolized for so long and
I would watch on TV on my couch growing up.
But I mean definitely kind Arsenan Um people like Amandola
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Ran someone you know, a little bit younger. But it's
so many UM athletes out here where I'm like, oh
my god, I'll watch you on TV. You're the best,
you know, and it's just super cool to be on
the field with them and compete against them because it's like, wow,
you're a pro athlete now, um, you're in their shoes.
It's exciting. I'm grateful to be here. I'm glad I
got the opportunity to be here. Y'all heard it here.
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It doesn't matter what age you are. If you're really
putting up, you can into your craft. You can inspire
so many. Yeah. So, honestly, what is next for you
in your softball career? What's your next goal? My next
goal would probably be Japan. I know that would be
something different for me because I've never been that far
away from my family or friends or anything like that.
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But I'm excited to see what that holds for me.
Pretty much, my plan is just to continue to play
softball until my body says, honestly, you're done, it's time
to give it up. Do you do you feel like
you listen pretty well to your body when it's like
yeah or nay? Oh? Absolutely, um, yeah absolutely. If I'm
feeling a little rough, I'm like a little crusty. Maybe
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rusty Trusty is definitely a description for those days. Yes, literally,
I love it alright. So when you say that Japan
is next for you, what do you mean are you
playing overseas? I just want to make sure our listeners
know are we just going over there? No? No, no,
no no. I would plans to play softball over in Japan.
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Very nice? Nice? And is that like a normal length
of a season for you or do you spend like
the whole year? How does that typically work? They split
it up in sections my understanding, which is a good
thing because it's tough to play year round, especially softball.
That's a hard thing to do. Got it okay? Perfect
for our listeners. I would love to hear you know
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what it is that you think makes a successful team.
For our team, I will say, getting to know each other.
I know that was the biggest thing I figured out
UM growing up, because everyone is so different. Everyone has
a different personality, everyone has a different background, everyone's from
somewhere else. So I think to become successful, you need
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to know who you're talking to. UM. So say like
one of my teammates gets out, and if they get
mad and they need a little thirty seconds, I'll give
them their little thirty seconds. But if say my third
basement gets out, like, I'll pick you up. I got
you next time. Something like that. Just knowing things like that,
being considerate, yeah, absolutely, understanding your teammates, UM. Believing you
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have to believe in yourself. You have to believe in
your teammates UM, and also having someone believe in you.
We knew we had people who believed in us, and
we believed in each other, um, and we believe in ourselves.
Very clear, very connected. What are some qualities of a
successful team player on and off the field. Do you
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have any strategies for people who want to become better
at teamwork? At teamwork? So I said before, I like,
I like to lead by example, whether that is having
something to do with school work, having something to do
with on the field, having something to do with how
I walk in Walmart. You know, how I represent the university,
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or how I represent myself, how I represent my team,
how I represent my family, my community. You know, things
like that. I will say, I know that helped my
team because anywhere I was walking, I walk with a purpose.
You know, I knew what I came to do. Um.
So just having a purpose, I feel like for everything
you do, whether that's grocery shop and you know what
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you're going in there for. You know, I have a
purpose when you walk in that grocery store. You know,
have a purpose when you're taking those tests, Have a
purpose when you're walking to class, have a purpose when
you're walking on campus, have a purpose for when you
walk on that field, that court, you know whatever, Just
have a purpose. That's a thing. So yeah, I know
your why, I know your wine, and have a purpose,
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even the smallest thing, the small purpose when you go
to the grocery store, you leave in with chips and
dips and probably not with the thing you actually needed
to exactly. I struggled so many times with that, even
if I write down like a grocery list, like, okay, honestly,
this is all you need, you have a budget, just
get that. No, it doesn't. It never works out for
me sometimes the extras. Okay, as long as you got
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what you needed, I'm glad you understand. I love it. Okay.
So um, let's talk about just the experience of being
in the softball world as a woman of color. Being
a woman of color and sports presents its own unique challenges.
So what's your advice for women of color who want
to get into predominantly white sports. So, like you said,
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this is a predominantly white sport and being growing up, honestly,
I never looked at it that way. It would always
just be, oh, honestly, you're the only black girl on
the team. I never looked at it any differently, And
as I continue to grow in the game, I got
to see like, oh, this really isn't like a black
girl sport, you know, like I'm kind of I always
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felt like I was the only black girl around most
of the time and tournaments and stuff. I was like,
what where, you know, like where the black girls where
y'all at? Yeah? Where? Hello? You know. It really opened
my eyes in the World Series when I was the
only black girl pitching on that platform. But to all
those you know, younger you know, black athletes, y'all can
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definitely do, you know, whatever you want. If you want
to play golf, if you want to play football, soccer,
you know you can do it. And I think me
being on that platform and I'm so glad that I
got to be on that platform just too impact and
inspire those younger black female athletes to tell them, Hey,
you can do whatever you want. If you dream it,
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you can be it. If I can do it, you
can do it too. Now I have the opportunity to
invest in so much and help out those ones who
want to play the sport and don't have it, know,
so I think that's my biggest thing, is to helping
to continue to sport to grow. Yes, once again, your age,
the color of your skin none of that really can
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stop you from inspiring other people and getting into the sport.
There were demographics provided by the n C double A
that from black players represented just five of collegiate softball.
Just five. That's very little. It's very very little, Okay,
So what can we do Odyssey to increase that number?
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In your opinion, definitely just continue to invest and I
think that's something I will continue to work on and
I would help continue to grow the sport with young
female black athletes as much as I can. Whether that's networking,
I'm doing that right now. But just continue to invest
in anything that will help this sport continue to grow.
I love that invest in network. Not all of that
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is money either, right in, that's your time exactly, that's
your effort at softball camps any you know. I love that.
What are some projects that you're working on or want
to work on in the future to get more black
women in softball? So right now, honestly, just being a voice,
it warms my heart. I just have to say this
to see, like if I get on Live with like
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a younger female black athlete and they're like crying and screaming,
like Nope, you're gonna make me cry. Like that warms
I know that warms me so much. So like that's
a little thing me getting alive and just speaking to
them and just saying hey, like just seeing how that
makes their day. Like you don't have to do all
this you know, fancy stuff. You don't have to have
all this money. Um, you know what I'm saying. So
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just little things like that. I know that's where I'm
trying to start at because I really wasn't a big
social media person from the beginning. Um and now just
seeing how much I can impact and help out these
little girls, Um, it warms my heart and I'm gonna
continue to do that. Is that, like newly one of
your favorite things? It's my favorite things? Great? Yeah, really
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paid it. Just seeing myself grow as a person, I'm like,
g just be your self. And once I figured out myself,
M you know, you're living your best life. I love that.
That is beautiful insights. I am just taken aback by
all of your answers and just the insights that you've
given from your own journey. What was one of the
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toughest moments for you in all of your softball career
and all of my softball career. I would definitely have
to say this past year, UM, right before our ci
A tournament, I think my grandpa I got sick and
he couldn't make anything after UM to see Harry tournament.
So that was the toughest thing for me because it's
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like he's always been so strong, and he's always been
at every game, and he's he's just been there, right,
So the College World Series the number one place you
know you would want your grandfather at. UM, he couldn't be,
But I mean I felt like I could like hear
him in this stance for some reason, after over thirteen
thousand people, I feel like I could hear him and
I felt like he was there. So honestly, I feel
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like that helped me through. And I knew he was watching,
so I feel like that also helped me through. But
that had to be the selfest part, just him not
being there to see me play the game that I love,
in the game that you know he got me into.
That's amazing. You're you're I can tell you're a very
deeply connected person, whether it's to your teammates or to
your family and young girls in the sport that look
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to be a part of it. Or you know, haven't
yet taken that step. So how does your why help
make you a better teammate, partner, colleague? How does that
why drive you to be better? I mean when you
know why you're doing something, I think that drives you
even more to do it and do it your best.
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And I think that's why. You know, sometimes you look
at these athletes and you're like, why are they so good?
Because they're playing for something, They're playing for somebody. They
know what they're doing. You know, they have a purpose.
And I think that's honestly, that was my biggest thing.
I knew I was playing that game. I gave my all.
You should always give your all, um, no matter what,
you should always give your all in grocery shop. And
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I'm telling you know it it changes. I'm saying it changes,
and like the little things that up to the big things.
But my wife definitely drove me. When I watch any
sport and I'm like, jeez, like she's good, and then
you go back and you do like some research and
you're like, oh, read her story, you know, um. And
I think that's why I say, now, like, make your
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journey true to you, because that makes you who you are. Um,
and just seeing myself grow as a person in college,
I'm like, wow, I me now like I feel it,
and it's it's a different feeling. It is so different. Yeah,
I feel like you live life different. Also, you live
you really start living. It's it's insane how you can
discover that, and it's just a moment after years of
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working really hard, it finally clicks. Yes, I love that
all right. So there are a lot of young girls
who we've seen playing and succeeding in the Little League,
like Money Davis, who are then told to move into softball.
Are you excited to have them in the sport or
do you ever wish they would continue to break barriers
and based Oh that's a good question. Um, I think
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honestly continue to break barriers, but I would love to
have them in the softball thing. But um, that's just
proven to the world that I can do it. I
can play baseball. And I think women's sports in general
right now is growing just because of you know, those
women breaking those barriers. So definitely continue to break the barriers,
even though I would love to have you. Yeah, I mean, yes,
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we're we're really breaking barriers and changing the amount of
women of color in certain sports that are predominantly white,
changing the expectation of sports and women driven sports definitely.
I know for me personally boxing, we have a lot
of heavy hitters right now who are aiming to have
three minute rounds instead of two minute rounds. Yes, you know,
making sure we're going the distance so that we can
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see more knockouts, more heart, more of what these women
are capable of doing, exactly, So definitely continue to break
those barriers. That's really dope. Yes, under armours, sweat the
details will be back after a short or break. Welcome
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back to split the details. All right. Now that we're
sitting on that energy, we're gonna do a little bit
of a shakeout. Honestly. This is the part in the
show where we play a game. In this game in
honor review is going to be called playball, all right,
So we would like for you to share your love
of softball and preparation routines for the game. So I'm
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just gonna ask you just rapid fire your answer and
we'll get it crack and you ready, all right, I'm ready, okay.
Favorite pitch to throw? Favorite pitch to throw? Honestly, it
depends on what pitch is working the best that day?
And what a batter is swinging at? I like that?
I like that? All right? What's your pre softball game ritual?
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I have to put my left sock on before my
rights on. Are you a lefty? I'm not a lefty,
but I have to put my left conference? What's the
reasoning is it? Is it just I don't know. I
just is kind of get dressed the same way? Okay,
not work? All right? What's your favorite pre training snack? Oh?
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I love a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I can
eat that for breakfast, I can eat that for lunch,
I can eat that for dinner. I feel like peanut
butter and jelly is gourmet. That is it's best snack.
As a thirty one year old, I'm like some days
there's like nothing I want more? Yes, all right. What's
the best way to celebrate a win? Um? It depends on, honestly,
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who we beat or what kind of game it was.
If it was a close one, I'm screaming, even though
I am excited to play the game in general, but
tons of more excitement. Um, if it's a close game,
you got the goose bumps and stuff. And you win.
So how about favorite softball cheer from when you were young?
You chanted? I have to chant it? Please let me
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think I really was never the cheering type. I would
just always clap on beat. But we'll say, let's see
what I got. But I see a hole out there.
I see a whole out there. That's all I'm gonna get.
I love it, all right, all right, thank you so much. Honestly,
this is a lot of fun. Absolutely, we know what
you're aiming towards. We're trying to see you in Japan
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very soon, and we also know that you're still working
to make sure that you're doing it big for the
young girls out here who are trying to get into
this sport. How can we find you if we want
to connect? If you want to connect, I am all
on social media and STA is double c's that comes
from c C if you guys didn't know, but it's
c O U B L E underscore s C A S.
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Twitter UM is two CS. I believe it is the
number two s C A S underscore underscore Facebook. My
name TikTok, my name excainer, I think um. But if
you guys ever want to hit me up on there,
I love to have tons of fun. TikTok is my
honestly my favorite. Um, just because I like to, you know,
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get down. TikTok will show you. It will be to
show you humble you a little bit like that doesn't
look great? Wow. I mean, congratulations on everything that you're doing,
and thank you so much for all of these incredible
insights you've given us. It's a very very inspiring conversation. Yes,
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I want to thank Odyssey Alexander again for sharing some
really powerful insights. Monica, what were some of your favorite
moments from your conversation with her? Where do we even start?
Odyssey's relationship with her grandfather was just so touching and
so inspiring to me. The belief that a person, especially
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so when your family, can have in you that can
take you to the college World Series, that can take
you to running right into the professional league when you're done,
to throwing somewhere around a thousand fifty seven pitches in
one actual tournament. I mean, I was just so in
awe of that relationship and just her her wisdom as
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a twenty three year old athlete. Oh my goodness, Oh
my goodness. And I'm just thinking about those pictures A
thousand and fifty seven, like really really not a hundred no, right,
I'm just I'm so sad that I missed this conversation
and I'm curious, like, was there any moment that like
surprised you. I love to hear when our guests, especially Odyssey,
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jump in on their life philosophy without even truly recognizing it.
And hers is absolutely to find your purpose and to
work with purpose and whatever you do, even going to
the grocery store. We definitely connected on that one, and
I you know, I'm just I'm really really inspired by her,
and you know, being a little older, a little bit
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more season, I am just so thankful to have taken
that insight and to know that women like her out
there inspiring younger women to not only get into the
sport of softball, but to know just how much of
an impact they can make just from being themselves. Absolutely
so inspiring. What what do you say we check in
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on some of our goals hashtag goals. Let's get it in. Well,
let's get it in. I guess I'll start because my
goal is very, very small. This week, I have actually
have two goals and they're kind of in the same
um one is to stay hydrated, and too is to
stay nourished. That is the only thing that I can
focus on this week, and that's all I'm doing. I'm
just I'm constantly making sure that I'm drinking enough water,
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I'm getting enough liquids, and I'm getting enough food. It's
been so difficult, you know. I started my I v
F treatment, my shots a couple of days ago. I'm
a few days in. It's been really, really rough, and
that's literally the only thing that I can focus on
right now is staying hydrated and staying nourished. And it
feels really difficult. It feels really hard, but I know
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that it's possible, and I know that I'm gonna get
through this, and that's where I am right now. Yes,
we are with you, Meg, sip in like a champ,
you know, SIPs and you know, I'm just so happy
that you're sharing your journey with us, and so thankful
to hear that because it really inspires me to understand,
you know, that there's so much power in the small
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things that we do. I'd say I'm on a similar
journey with you, and I'm just trying to add a
little bit at a time. Or eight weeks out from
the fight and already yeah, and you know, just the
lock in of the purpose of you know, fighting for
cancer research and fighting for those who are who are
in this fight personally has really helped me appreciate my
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body every single day. So listening to my body is
my goal. Whether I need to go a little bit
harder in this next couple of weeks or if I
need to back off, I just want to really be
in tune with myself so that I can step in
that ring and really be ready to give everything I have.
I love that And what you're doing is just can
I just say it's incredible, Like thank you. I just
hope you you understand, like how big of a deal
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what you're doing is. It's a huge, huge thing that
you're doing. We're talking you know, millions of people affected.
And I really really hope that this truly can change
the trajectory of how far cancer is reaching people in
their lives, whether they're older or younger. I hope that
this research and this and this effort really makes a
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huge difference. So thanks to everyone who has been supporting us.
We are getting so many overwhelming messages and so many
shows of support Meg. I know your your d ms
and your comments are looking absolutely flooded right now, but
keep on coming, y'all. Yeah, yes, please please keep them
coming alright, y'all. Well, that's it for this week's episode,
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him
When you know why you're doing something, I think that
drives you even more to do it and do it
your best. And I think that's why. You know, sometimes
you look at these athletes and you're like, why are
they so good? Because they're playing for something, They're playing
for somebody. They know what they're doing. You know, they
have a purpose. I knew while I was playing that game.
I gave my all. You should always give your all,
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no matter what. My wife definitely drove me. This is
what The Details a collaboration with Under Armour and I
Heart Radio, a sports and training podcast made for women
by women. I'm Monica Jones, a fitness coach, boxer, business owner,
and u A athlete. And I'm Meg Bogs, I'm a powerlifter, author,
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body positivity advocate and mother. Every episode, Monica and I
will talk to athletes, trainers, and experts and learn more
about how the body and mind work together in training
and competition. Today, we're talking about team spirit, finding purpose,
and breaking barriers with our guests professional softball player and
u A athlete, Odyssey Alexander. Unfortunately I was not able
(01:05):
to make this interview, and I'm very jealous that you
got to talk with Odyssey Monica. But you know I've
been reading up and Hodyesty is well on her way
to legend status in the softball world. Yes, we missed you,
dearly Meg, and so for those of our listeners who
may not have been watching the news around the Women's
College World Series this summer, Honesty was pretty much the
star of the show. As a starting pitcher for James
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Madison University, she led her team to victory after victory,
including two major wins over the number one seed Oklahoma University.
Over the course of the tournament. Odyssey started every game,
and she pitched the entirety of every game except the
team's last, when she was subbed out in the fifth inning.
She left the pitcher's mound to a standing ovation from
spectators and fans. Odyssey through roughly one thousand fifty seven
(01:52):
pitches Are you kidding me? During the entirety of the series.
By the end of her career playing with j m U,
she was named D one Softball Woman of the Year,
nominated for the Best Female College Athlete sp Award, and
named Softball America's in C double A Picture of the Year. Wow,
I'm just truly in all of what She's accomplished and
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she's only twenty three years old. She's an absolute superstar.
And that's the thing. While her college career has ended,
her professional career has just started. Not long after the
College World Series, the U s s s A Pride
professional softball team, signed Odyssey to play for them. On
top of that, Odyssey is taking on the important role
of inspiring young women of color to play the sport
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and finding new ways to support them. I mean, just wow.
That is seriously legend status and I am here for it,
especially knowing how many women she is inspiring now with
her story and her success. It's just truly incredible, Mom,
And I'm seriously jealous that I had to miss this conversation. Listen,
when I was twenty three, I'm pretty sure I was
still trying to figure out how to make protein smoothies
(02:55):
and get to work on time. What I'm so excited
for this conversation. You guys, there are some gems you're
about to hear, so get ready. I cannot wait to
hear this conversation, So why don't we jump to it. Yes,
we miss you so much for this one, Meg, but
we can't wait for you to hear it. Let's get
it in Honestly, Alexander is a professional softball player playing
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as a picture with the US Essay Pride. Thank you
so much for joining us out of see. How are
you doing good? How are you? I'm too good. I'm
excited for this conversation though, Yes, I'm super excited. So
we're gonna jump right into it. Okay, can you tell
me a little bit about your journey into softball as
a sport. So I started softball when I was young,
and my grandfather inspired me to play this sport. He
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introduced me to the sport, he kept me going through
the sport. He took me through travelball, Dixie League, college,
and I figured out my why when I got to college.
And I guess that took me a very long way,
because here I am. I will say, I feel like
when you go through so many things like adversity and stuff,
you start to figure out yourself a little bit more.
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And I think in college that's what I started to do.
And I started to see myself grow, not just like
in the sport, but as a person. And I think
that's what you know, any sport, I feel like it
is about like you see yourself growing as a person.
I think that's the most interesting part, is like because
I see it myself and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Like I've changed in a lot of different ways, in
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good ways, um, and I feel like I'm becoming you know,
who God created me to be. That is one of
the best feelings in the world. And then it is
definitely something that sports can give us. Yes, honestly, you've
been an exceptional athlete since you were young, not only
in softball, but you also played basketball and volleyball, Am
I right? You're correct? Yeah, and you played for your
high school team. So what is it about softball that
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you love and I couldn't find in the other sports
that you played? UM, for one, that was the one
coach who did give me a chance. I felt like
I was never going to college. I never thought I
would get the opportunity to go, and if I did,
it would have been much much smaller like DO two
or D three. But having the opportunity from a D
one coach, I felt like it was someone who believed
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in me where I felt like most did it And
I think also that was kind of my motivation to
prove to people like I can do it. You know,
so taking the chance. I mean, that was my only offer.
Some offers started coming in after that, but I was
committed to them, so I stayed tuned to my commitment
and I wrote it out with Janiel that is that's
really dope. I remember being in my college attempts and
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looking at some of my teammates when we were younger
and just being like, Wow, it's so cool. These schools
are coming for y'all. Is really great. I'm like, I'm
barely getting off the bench, but y'all are a kid
in pursued It is dope, and I can't imagine that feeling.
So thank you for sharing that. It's It's definitely still
something that gives me goose bumps to hear about what
were some challenges that you had going from being a
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college athlete to a professional and how did you ever
come those Honestly, it was so much that happened after
the World Series. At one point I didn't think I
can handle it. Um. It was overwhelming, just because your
life kind of changes and what it changed in one day,
like over a night, and I'm like, okay, I'm really
on the spotlight right now, you know. But I think
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the biggest thing for me was just an adult part
because in college you have everything, you know. Time management
was my thing. In college, I had everything set out,
I knew everything I was going to do. Where now
it's like you have to do it on your own,
which is something I didn't do in college. So I
would definitely say time management. I'm always on time, not late,
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but it's just hard, you know, figuring out everything you
have to do every single day. You know what I
want to go back because I was listening to what
you were saying about going for softball and feeling like
others considered you overlooked. Why do you think they considered
you overlooked? I would definitely say just because of where
I come from UM, And I think now that's such
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a big thing that I would try to invest in
is no matter where you come from, you can do
what ever you want to do UM. So here at
AU UM Athletes Unlimited. In Chicago, I play for the
Natasha Wadley Foundation, which is a foundation basically giving back
to those who aren't from like big cities or who
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don't have the expensive bats or anything like that. So
I think that's something huge now to to basically to
help continue to grow the game and grow these young
female black athletes they want to play softball. So just
giving back and just helping to grow the game, yes,
I can. I can absolutely see that being such a
fulfilling part of what you do now, and I love
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that you're a part of that. So what have you
learned from working with the team and relying on others
rather than just being a singular player? Um, I mean
that's all the part about growing. When I first went
to college, I was not a very talkative person. Um.
There were some things you have you have to learn
about your teammates, you know, before you basically just go
at it. For me, I know, I like to observe
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and then go from there, get to see how people
are and stuff like that. But you can't do it
by yourself. That's something I also had to learn leadership,
and I wasn't always the vocal one. I was more
of the said it by example, you know. I will
say in the World Series, I didn't want to be
with anybody else, but those girls doubts that we had,
I feel like, really pushed us to, you know, prove
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to like the whole softball world or the world that
a mid major school can do it, you know, and
we believed in each other. We trusted in each other,
and the main thing is we stayed within each other.
We knew what we had and we came to you know,
just compete and play Jamus softball. That is inspiring And
I remember when all that was going down. Yeah, that's
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that is so dope to be speaking to you now, Like,
I'm really honored to speak to you about that experience.
It was fun. So who were some of your role
models in the sport growing up? It's so many girls
out here that I actually idolized for so long and
I would watch on TV on my couch growing up.
But I mean definitely kind Arsenan Um people like Amandola
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Ran someone you know, a little bit younger. But it's
so many UM athletes out here where I'm like, oh
my god, I'll watch you on TV. You're the best,
you know, and it's just super cool to be on
the field with them and compete against them because it's like, wow,
you're a pro athlete now, um, you're in their shoes.
It's exciting. I'm grateful to be here. I'm glad I
got the opportunity to be here. Y'all heard it here.
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It doesn't matter what age you are. If you're really
putting up, you can into your craft. You can inspire
so many. Yeah. So, honestly, what is next for you
in your softball career? What's your next goal? My next
goal would probably be Japan. I know that would be
something different for me because I've never been that far
away from my family or friends or anything like that.
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But I'm excited to see what that holds for me.
Pretty much, my plan is just to continue to play
softball until my body says, honestly, you're done, it's time
to give it up. Do you do you feel like
you listen pretty well to your body when it's like
yeah or nay? Oh? Absolutely, um, yeah absolutely. If I'm
feeling a little rough, I'm like a little crusty. Maybe
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rusty Trusty is definitely a description for those days. Yes, literally,
I love it alright. So when you say that Japan
is next for you, what do you mean are you
playing overseas? I just want to make sure our listeners
know are we just going over there? No? No, no,
no no. I would plans to play softball over in Japan.
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Very nice? Nice? And is that like a normal length
of a season for you or do you spend like
the whole year? How does that typically work? They split
it up in sections my understanding, which is a good
thing because it's tough to play year round, especially softball.
That's a hard thing to do. Got it okay? Perfect
for our listeners. I would love to hear you know
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what it is that you think makes a successful team.
For our team, I will say, getting to know each other.
I know that was the biggest thing I figured out
UM growing up, because everyone is so different. Everyone has
a different personality, everyone has a different background, everyone's from
somewhere else. So I think to become successful, you need
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to know who you're talking to. UM. So say like
one of my teammates gets out, and if they get
mad and they need a little thirty seconds, I'll give
them their little thirty seconds. But if say my third
basement gets out, like, I'll pick you up. I got
you next time. Something like that. Just knowing things like that,
being considerate, yeah, absolutely, understanding your teammates, UM. Believing you
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have to believe in yourself. You have to believe in
your teammates UM, and also having someone believe in you.
We knew we had people who believed in us, and
we believed in each other, um, and we believe in ourselves.
Very clear, very connected. What are some qualities of a
successful team player on and off the field. Do you
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have any strategies for people who want to become better
at teamwork? At teamwork? So I said before, I like,
I like to lead by example, whether that is having
something to do with school work, having something to do
with on the field, having something to do with how
I walk in Walmart. You know, how I represent the university,
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or how I represent myself, how I represent my team,
how I represent my family, my community. You know, things
like that. I will say, I know that helped my
team because anywhere I was walking, I walk with a purpose.
You know, I knew what I came to do. Um.
So just having a purpose, I feel like for everything
you do, whether that's grocery shop and you know what
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you're going in there for. You know, I have a
purpose when you walk in that grocery store. You know,
have a purpose when you're taking those tests, Have a
purpose when you're walking to class, have a purpose when
you're walking on campus, have a purpose for when you
walk on that field, that court, you know whatever, Just
have a purpose. That's a thing. So yeah, I know
your why, I know your wine, and have a purpose,
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even the smallest thing, the small purpose when you go
to the grocery store, you leave in with chips and
dips and probably not with the thing you actually needed
to exactly. I struggled so many times with that, even
if I write down like a grocery list, like, okay, honestly,
this is all you need, you have a budget, just
get that. No, it doesn't. It never works out for
me sometimes the extras. Okay, as long as you got
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what you needed, I'm glad you understand. I love it. Okay.
So um, let's talk about just the experience of being
in the softball world as a woman of color. Being
a woman of color and sports presents its own unique challenges.
So what's your advice for women of color who want
to get into predominantly white sports. So, like you said,
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this is a predominantly white sport and being growing up, honestly,
I never looked at it that way. It would always
just be, oh, honestly, you're the only black girl on
the team. I never looked at it any differently, And
as I continue to grow in the game, I got
to see like, oh, this really isn't like a black
girl sport, you know, like I'm kind of I always
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felt like I was the only black girl around most
of the time and tournaments and stuff. I was like,
what where, you know, like where the black girls where
y'all at? Yeah? Where? Hello? You know. It really opened
my eyes in the World Series when I was the
only black girl pitching on that platform. But to all
those you know, younger you know, black athletes, y'all can
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definitely do, you know, whatever you want. If you want
to play golf, if you want to play football, soccer,
you know you can do it. And I think me
being on that platform and I'm so glad that I
got to be on that platform just too impact and
inspire those younger black female athletes to tell them, Hey,
you can do whatever you want. If you dream it,
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you can be it. If I can do it, you
can do it too. Now I have the opportunity to
invest in so much and help out those ones who
want to play the sport and don't have it, know,
so I think that's my biggest thing, is to helping
to continue to sport to grow. Yes, once again, your age,
the color of your skin none of that really can
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stop you from inspiring other people and getting into the sport.
There were demographics provided by the n C double A
that from black players represented just five of collegiate softball.
Just five. That's very little. It's very very little, Okay,
So what can we do Odyssey to increase that number?
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In your opinion, definitely just continue to invest and I
think that's something I will continue to work on and
I would help continue to grow the sport with young
female black athletes as much as I can. Whether that's networking,
I'm doing that right now. But just continue to invest
in anything that will help this sport continue to grow.
I love that invest in network. Not all of that
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is money either, right in, that's your time exactly, that's
your effort at softball camps any you know. I love that.
What are some projects that you're working on or want
to work on in the future to get more black
women in softball? So right now, honestly, just being a voice,
it warms my heart. I just have to say this
to see, like if I get on Live with like
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a younger female black athlete and they're like crying and screaming,
like Nope, you're gonna make me cry. Like that warms
I know that warms me so much. So like that's
a little thing me getting alive and just speaking to
them and just saying hey, like just seeing how that
makes their day. Like you don't have to do all
this you know, fancy stuff. You don't have to have
all this money. Um, you know what I'm saying. So
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just little things like that. I know that's where I'm
trying to start at because I really wasn't a big
social media person from the beginning. Um and now just
seeing how much I can impact and help out these
little girls, Um, it warms my heart and I'm gonna
continue to do that. Is that, like newly one of
your favorite things? It's my favorite things? Great? Yeah, really
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paid it. Just seeing myself grow as a person, I'm like,
g just be your self. And once I figured out myself,
M you know, you're living your best life. I love that.
That is beautiful insights. I am just taken aback by
all of your answers and just the insights that you've
given from your own journey. What was one of the
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toughest moments for you in all of your softball career
and all of my softball career. I would definitely have
to say this past year, UM, right before our ci
A tournament, I think my grandpa I got sick and
he couldn't make anything after UM to see Harry tournament.
So that was the toughest thing for me because it's
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like he's always been so strong, and he's always been
at every game, and he's he's just been there, right,
So the College World Series the number one place you
know you would want your grandfather at. UM, he couldn't be,
But I mean I felt like I could like hear
him in this stance for some reason, after over thirteen
thousand people, I feel like I could hear him and
I felt like he was there. So honestly, I feel
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like that helped me through. And I knew he was watching,
so I feel like that also helped me through. But
that had to be the selfest part, just him not
being there to see me play the game that I love,
in the game that you know he got me into.
That's amazing. You're you're I can tell you're a very
deeply connected person, whether it's to your teammates or to
your family and young girls in the sport that look
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to be a part of it. Or you know, haven't
yet taken that step. So how does your why help
make you a better teammate, partner, colleague? How does that
why drive you to be better? I mean when you
know why you're doing something, I think that drives you
even more to do it and do it your best.
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And I think that's why. You know, sometimes you look
at these athletes and you're like, why are they so good?
Because they're playing for something, They're playing for somebody. They
know what they're doing. You know, they have a purpose.
And I think that's honestly, that was my biggest thing.
I knew I was playing that game. I gave my all.
You should always give your all, um, no matter what,
you should always give your all in grocery shop. And
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I'm telling you know it it changes. I'm saying it changes,
and like the little things that up to the big things.
But my wife definitely drove me. When I watch any
sport and I'm like, jeez, like she's good, and then
you go back and you do like some research and
you're like, oh, read her story, you know, um. And
I think that's why I say, now, like, make your
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journey true to you, because that makes you who you are. Um,
and just seeing myself grow as a person in college,
I'm like, wow, I me now like I feel it,
and it's it's a different feeling. It is so different. Yeah,
I feel like you live life different. Also, you live
you really start living. It's it's insane how you can
discover that, and it's just a moment after years of
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working really hard, it finally clicks. Yes, I love that
all right. So there are a lot of young girls
who we've seen playing and succeeding in the Little League,
like Money Davis, who are then told to move into softball.
Are you excited to have them in the sport or
do you ever wish they would continue to break barriers
and based Oh that's a good question. Um, I think
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honestly continue to break barriers, but I would love to
have them in the softball thing. But um, that's just
proven to the world that I can do it. I
can play baseball. And I think women's sports in general
right now is growing just because of you know, those
women breaking those barriers. So definitely continue to break the barriers,
even though I would love to have you. Yeah, I mean, yes,
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we're we're really breaking barriers and changing the amount of
women of color in certain sports that are predominantly white,
changing the expectation of sports and women driven sports definitely.
I know for me personally boxing, we have a lot
of heavy hitters right now who are aiming to have
three minute rounds instead of two minute rounds. Yes, you know,
making sure we're going the distance so that we can
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see more knockouts, more heart, more of what these women
are capable of doing, exactly, So definitely continue to break
those barriers. That's really dope. Yes, under armours, sweat the
details will be back after a short or break. Welcome
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back to split the details. All right. Now that we're
sitting on that energy, we're gonna do a little bit
of a shakeout. Honestly. This is the part in the
show where we play a game. In this game in
honor review is going to be called playball, all right,
So we would like for you to share your love
of softball and preparation routines for the game. So I'm
(21:26):
just gonna ask you just rapid fire your answer and
we'll get it crack and you ready, all right, I'm ready, okay.
Favorite pitch to throw? Favorite pitch to throw? Honestly, it
depends on what pitch is working the best that day?
And what a batter is swinging at? I like that?
I like that? All right? What's your pre softball game ritual?
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I have to put my left sock on before my
rights on. Are you a lefty? I'm not a lefty,
but I have to put my left conference? What's the
reasoning is it? Is it just I don't know. I
just is kind of get dressed the same way? Okay,
not work? All right? What's your favorite pre training snack? Oh?
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I love a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I can
eat that for breakfast, I can eat that for lunch,
I can eat that for dinner. I feel like peanut
butter and jelly is gourmet. That is it's best snack.
As a thirty one year old, I'm like some days
there's like nothing I want more? Yes, all right. What's
the best way to celebrate a win? Um? It depends on, honestly,
(22:31):
who we beat or what kind of game it was.
If it was a close one, I'm screaming, even though
I am excited to play the game in general, but
tons of more excitement. Um, if it's a close game,
you got the goose bumps and stuff. And you win.
So how about favorite softball cheer from when you were young?
You chanted? I have to chant it? Please let me
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think I really was never the cheering type. I would
just always clap on beat. But we'll say, let's see
what I got. But I see a hole out there.
I see a whole out there. That's all I'm gonna get.
I love it, all right, all right, thank you so much. Honestly,
this is a lot of fun. Absolutely, we know what
you're aiming towards. We're trying to see you in Japan
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very soon, and we also know that you're still working
to make sure that you're doing it big for the
young girls out here who are trying to get into
this sport. How can we find you if we want
to connect? If you want to connect, I am all
on social media and STA is double c's that comes
from c C if you guys didn't know, but it's
c O U B L E underscore s C A S.
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Twitter UM is two CS. I believe it is the
number two s C A S underscore underscore Facebook. My
name TikTok, my name excainer, I think um. But if
you guys ever want to hit me up on there,
I love to have tons of fun. TikTok is my
honestly my favorite. Um, just because I like to, you know,
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get down. TikTok will show you. It will be to
show you humble you a little bit like that doesn't
look great? Wow. I mean, congratulations on everything that you're doing,
and thank you so much for all of these incredible
insights you've given us. It's a very very inspiring conversation. Yes,
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I want to thank Odyssey Alexander again for sharing some
really powerful insights. Monica, what were some of your favorite
moments from your conversation with her? Where do we even start?
Odyssey's relationship with her grandfather was just so touching and
so inspiring to me. The belief that a person, especially
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so when your family, can have in you that can
take you to the college World Series, that can take
you to running right into the professional league when you're done,
to throwing somewhere around a thousand fifty seven pitches in
one actual tournament. I mean, I was just so in
awe of that relationship and just her her wisdom as
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a twenty three year old athlete. Oh my goodness, Oh
my goodness. And I'm just thinking about those pictures A
thousand and fifty seven, like really really not a hundred no, right,
I'm just I'm so sad that I missed this conversation
and I'm curious, like, was there any moment that like
surprised you. I love to hear when our guests, especially Odyssey,
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jump in on their life philosophy without even truly recognizing it.
And hers is absolutely to find your purpose and to
work with purpose and whatever you do, even going to
the grocery store. We definitely connected on that one, and
I you know, I'm just I'm really really inspired by her,
and you know, being a little older, a little bit
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more season, I am just so thankful to have taken
that insight and to know that women like her out
there inspiring younger women to not only get into the
sport of softball, but to know just how much of
an impact they can make just from being themselves. Absolutely
so inspiring. What what do you say we check in
(26:14):
on some of our goals hashtag goals. Let's get it in. Well,
let's get it in. I guess I'll start because my
goal is very, very small. This week, I have actually
have two goals and they're kind of in the same
um one is to stay hydrated, and too is to
stay nourished. That is the only thing that I can
focus on this week, and that's all I'm doing. I'm
just I'm constantly making sure that I'm drinking enough water,
(26:36):
I'm getting enough liquids, and I'm getting enough food. It's
been so difficult, you know. I started my I v
F treatment, my shots a couple of days ago. I'm
a few days in. It's been really, really rough, and
that's literally the only thing that I can focus on
right now is staying hydrated and staying nourished. And it
feels really difficult. It feels really hard, but I know
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that it's possible, and I know that I'm gonna get
through this, and that's where I am right now. Yes,
we are with you, Meg, sip in like a champ,
you know, SIPs and you know, I'm just so happy
that you're sharing your journey with us, and so thankful
to hear that because it really inspires me to understand,
you know, that there's so much power in the small
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things that we do. I'd say I'm on a similar
journey with you, and I'm just trying to add a
little bit at a time. Or eight weeks out from
the fight and already yeah, and you know, just the
lock in of the purpose of you know, fighting for
cancer research and fighting for those who are who are
in this fight personally has really helped me appreciate my
(27:40):
body every single day. So listening to my body is
my goal. Whether I need to go a little bit
harder in this next couple of weeks or if I
need to back off, I just want to really be
in tune with myself so that I can step in
that ring and really be ready to give everything I have.
I love that And what you're doing is just can
I just say it's incredible, Like thank you. I just
hope you you understand, like how big of a deal
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what you're doing is. It's a huge, huge thing that
you're doing. We're talking you know, millions of people affected.
And I really really hope that this truly can change
the trajectory of how far cancer is reaching people in
their lives, whether they're older or younger. I hope that
this research and this and this effort really makes a
(28:22):
huge difference. So thanks to everyone who has been supporting us.
We are getting so many overwhelming messages and so many
shows of support Meg. I know your your d ms
and your comments are looking absolutely flooded right now, but
keep on coming, y'all. Yeah, yes, please please keep them
coming alright, y'all. Well, that's it for this week's episode,
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but don't forget to join us next week for more
great conversations. Thanks for joining us, fit fam. If you
liked what you heard on the show, subscribe for free
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leave a five star rating and review. You can find
me on Instagram at me dot bogs and on TikTok
same handle at Meg dot boggs. Yes and hit your
(29:04):
girl up on Instagram. You can find me at Train
with Man. Until next time, stay inspired, stay motivated, and
don't forget to Sweat the Details. Bye bye. Sweat the
(29:27):
Details is a collaboration with under Armour and I Heart Radio.
Our show was hosted by me Monica Jones and me
Meg Bogs. Our executive producers are Just strip Stein, Just Sell,
Louis Artald, Molly Sosha and Maya Cole. Our producers are
Kelly and Tole, Layla Cadrain, Emma Osborne and Alejandra Arivalo,
and our sound editor and engineer is Sarah give Alaska.
(29:50):
Keep up the latest news in women's fitness by following
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