July 20, 2021 • 32 mins
Co-hosts Adrienne Herbert and Tamara Pridgett are joined by Hailie Deegan NASCAR camping world truck series driver who made her debut in 2019. We chat with Hailie about how she started racing before she could legally drive on the street, what it is like to be a woman in a male-dominated sport, and why physical and mental training are the keys to success in NASCAR.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My dad never treated me differently growing up. He treated
me like one of the guys when they came to
racing and off road chuck racing, and I held myself
just as accountable as they did for doing good in races.
And at one point I had the target on my
back of being not just the girl to be, but
the person to be in off road racing, and that
was something I held very proudly. I was excited to
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have that pressure, and I think that's something that honestly
formed me into the person I am today, of not
trying to play this girl role of oh, I'm the
best finisher for a girl, of trying to be the
best in general. This is what The Details a collaboration
with Underrama and I Heart Radio, a podcast made for
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women by women that puts our training, journeys, boals, and
mindst at this center. I'm Tamera Pridget and I'm Adrian Herbert's.
Every episode will hear from athletes, trainers, and experts who
will give us insights how our bodies and minds work
together in training and competition. In today's season ending episode,
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we're talking about training for NASCAR. Yes, you heard that right, Nascar.
We chat with up and coming superstar Haley Degan. Haley
is a professional stock car driver in the NASCAR Camping
World Truck Series. Hailey is such an exciting person to watch,
not only because she is a woman in a highly
male dominated sport, but because she competes and wins against
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some of the best in sport regardless of gender. Yes,
and what's so amazing is that NASCAR is not only
a physical sport, but it's also super mental as well.
The strategy and focus that it takes to do well
and not crash is enormous. I can't wait to hear
from Haley about how she trains her mind and her
body for the rigors of NASCAR. I'm so excited for
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this conversation. Yes, me too. I know this conversation is
going to be super inspiring. Unfortunately, as I was unwell,
I was unable to join for this final recording. But
I know that you did an awesome job, Tamara, and
as this is our final episode of the season, I
don't think we should waste any more time. What do
you think, Tamara. Let's jump into it. Let's do it. Hi, Hailey,
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welcome to sweat the details. Were super excited to have
you on this podcast. Thank you. I'm excited to be
on it. So let's just jump right into it. I
would love to know how you got into racing, how
you got into NASCAR. So back when I was about
seven years old, my dad was doing freestyle motocross, UM
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a lot in action sports, X games, all that stuff,
and he made the transition into racing off road trucks.
And I was just about to turn eight at that time.
And I remember going to his first race when I
was still seven years old, back in two thousand and eight,
and I was like, man, there's kids my age racing
these like small off road trucks. And I was obsessed
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with that. I wanted to do it so bad, and
so end up begging my parents. Keep in mind, I'm
like the firstborn kid and at that time, like they
just had my younger brother, and so they were like, okay, fine,
and they end up getting me an off road truck
for my eighth birthday and then ever since then, I
never looked back. I started raising. Yes, I started racing
off road trucks for about I would say six to
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eight years after that. UM, I won a bunch of championships,
one a bunch of races, and then I got picked
up from a manufacturer to go raise stock cars. Okay,
so one eight years old, you were probably the coolest
like eight year old ever. Um, if I was your friend,
I'd be so jealous. My second thing is when you
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started racing. Was it something you wanted to do professionally
from the jump or were you just doing it for fun?
I would say when I first started out is something
that I did for fun because I was already at
the track with my dad. He was racing all the time,
so going there it was almost like it just came
easy because we were already all at the track. And
then I would say I was about twelve thirteen years old,
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and that's when I really made the transition into focusing
into racing as my career. I ended up begging my
parents and I actually wrote like a five page essay
on why should be homeschooled so that I could spend
more time racing. And when I was about thirteen years old,
I was in seventh grade, i remember, and then I
quit going to actual school started home schooling so I
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could be able to race more. I love that. That's
like dedication. So growing up where there are any women
or even presently that and inspired you in NASCAR. It's
funny you say that, because there's not many women in NASCAR.
That's the thing. It's very limited when it comes to
girls that actually race in general, it's very very small percentage.
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I could probably name every single girl, um that I've
known that racist stock cars on one hand, and that's
just from being up the ranks and stuff, and like
that's not just one series, that's like all of the
series combined. And there's just not many girls that do
it in all honesty, and so I never really had
a figure to look up to. And that's something like
I didn't pay attention in a NASCAR at all when
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I was growing up racing off road trucks because I
was on the West Coast, it wasn't my scene. Offroad
truck racing was my scene, and until I was about
fifteen years old, that's when NASCAR became my scene. Got it. So,
being that there aren't many girls and women in the sport,
what has that experience been like for you? Do you
feel like it's like you and the guys have they
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been welcoming to you. I've gotten very used to it. Um,
just not having girls around constantly being around guys, and
that's something that's become very normal to me. And my
dad never treated me differently growing up. He treated me
like one of the guys and like how every other
dad treated their son. When it came to racing an
off road truck racing, and I became friends with all
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the guys and it was just very normal. Like I
didn't see I thought I was one of the guys,
and so like, I held myself just as accountable as
they did for doing good in races. And at one
point I had the target on my back of being
not just the girl to be, but the person to
be an off road racing and that was something I
held very proudly and I was super excited. I was
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excited to have that pressure, and I think that's something
that honestly formed me into the person I am today
of not trying to play this girl role of oh
I'm the best finisher for a girl, of trying to
be the best in general. Mm hm. So I am
curious what does training look like for racing. It's a
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hot and cold area when it comes to training and
things like that. Because you can talk to some people,
some people are just very naturally good racers, and then
other ones have to work for it a little bit harder.
But training has always been something that's been a part
of my life for a long time. Ever since I
was nine years old, I've been in the gym, and
that's just a product of my dad having a really
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close friend that owned a gym, and so I was
just there every day and it was very normal for me,
and I got on a regiment of working out every
day is what I do. I do not feel like
I didn't my day right if I didn't work out,
And so I think there's a lot of training regimens
when it comes to NASCAR racing that um, it kind
of just varies depending on the driver and what they
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really want to do. But I'm someone who likes pushing
my body and pushing the limits of what I can do,
always setting new prs, different things like that. I feel
like that's something that the people of NASCAR and the
driver is at race NASCAR are just getting into. And
I grew up in a family of that. Motocross is
very very hard on your body, and you have to
be in very good shape to be a part of
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it and to do it, And so that was something
that I've been around. So going into the NASCAR world,
not many people train and it's just honestly entry level
training that a lot of people are starting, which is
kind of weird to me because I feel like, if
you're doing something this hard on your body, why wouldn't
you want to be training? Because people have no problem
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just getting out of the car throwing up from heat exhaustion,
and I'm like, why do you want to do that
to yourself? Like, you know you can train and like
actually prevent those things from happening. And so that's one
thing that I've noticed over time. It's about a hundred
hundred thirty four degrees in these cars and there's not
much air moving around inside the actual car, and you're
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in there for two to three hours, maybe even four
sometimes in the longer races, and so it's miserable hot
in there. So if you can do things to prepare beforehand,
why wouldn't you And that's something that I like to
do a lot. So I'm not the one throwing up
after the race, so I'm not the one stumbling out
of the car. So what does that look like? Is
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it cardio? Is it strength training? Like? What do you
do to not puke when you get out of the car.
I would say what I do is I love doing cardio.
I love a lot jump, roping, running. Um, I've noticed
my back pain has elevated a lot since I started
lifting a lot during the off season, and so now
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I'm hurting in the gym a little more than I
used to, which I guess is normal. But I love
I truly have a passion for lifting and squatting in
different things like that, and so when it comes to weight,
I love it like I love doing weights, And something
that's kind of hard for me to do is cardio
because I'm like, ah, like I go for a run
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or I could go to squats squat rack, and so
that's something that like I have to I have to
battle myself and be like, no, today is cardio, Like
you gotta go do cardio today. But I'd say it's
more like I just I like doing my workouts how
I feel depending on that day. Yeah, that's awesome. Um,
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so you mentioned that you're sitting in the car for
you know, two to three hours, maybe up to four hours.
What is going through your mind? This is what I
used to ask distance runners when they did like super
long races, because like I was a short spinter, we're
done after like twenty something seconds, running for like thirty minutes,
driving for four hours. Like what are you thinking about? Like,
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are you constantly just like thinking about your strategy where
you're at when you're gonna make your next move. Are
you kind of just like you know, just let your
mind go where it goes. I would say it's more
thinking about your next move, whether it's you being in
that position. It's mostly a perfection thing of trying to
make every corner perfect and every lap perfect, and in
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these races and stuff like usually have to be within
a tenth of a second every single lap. And so
that's something like you have to hold yourself accountable to
not make mistakes because it's like a domino effect. You
make a mistake, you get past, and it just starts
dominoing down. And so that's something that like you have
to be so focused inside the car and like just
straight mind on racing and trying to figure out what
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you're going to do next to get that next position. Yeah.
So on the flip side, we've spoken a lot about
like how important just like mental training is um I
watched an interview and your dad was speaking and he said,
when he was younger, he was working on you with
like your mental training because of the boys and how
they would try to intimidate you or make you trash. Um.
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Coming to present day, do you do any type of
mental training so that you're staying sharp so that you
can make those moves and stay where you need to be.
I al would say, that's something that I learned at
a very young age, and it was a lot for years. Um.
I had a driving coach back when I was younger
who helped me um during the races and stuff. Um.
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He spotted for me quite a bit also, and a
lot of his tactics were mind games, and I started
figuring it out and started to figure out his ways
and like what he was doing. And that's something that
over time I'm able to catch onto things to how
to be the person playing the mind games and be
the person putting you in tough positions. And that's the
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something that's that's how you make passes in racing, is
trying to psych him out of by I'm going this way, now,
I'm going this way. Here we go, and it's over
by then. And I would say That's something that I
learned at such a young age, so it comes naturally
to me, now, got it. No, I love the mind games.
I think that's such a big key to just sport
in generalism. I agree, how can you psych out your competition?
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Like when I'm saying it now, I'm like, wow, that
actually kind of sounds mean. But and like in the
act of competing, it's like, you gotta do what you
gotta do. It's just a part of the game exactly.
There's one person that wins, and I best believe I'd
rather play in my game on you and win. That's
how it is when you're an athlete and you play sports.
That's how it is. Yeah, So for those of us
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who aren't really familiar with racing, can you tell us
how racing trucks differs from racing cars. So we'll start
with off road trucks compared to actual stock a racing.
So off road trucks, you're on a dirt track that
is kind of like most of the shapes of the
track is kind of like a horseshoe shape. That's kind
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of like relatively what most of the tracks are shaped
like a bunch of big jumps and there's shorter races,
so offer truck racing, which I don't race anymore, um,
but that's why I grew up racing. There about thirty
minute races and is a hundred and ten percent the
whole time. There's trucks flipping everywhere. You're getting roosted with
rocks stirret, you have tear offfs and you're shifting and
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there's a lot going on. Well, when you go to
stock car racing, it's a lot more patient and perfection
and trying to be perfect every single lap and almost
like less is more like not overdoing it, which an
offer racing. Overdoing it meant you go fast. You went faster.
So that's something that I had to get used to
over time, and so getting used to the patients and
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that's something I'm still learning to this day as patients.
But we're getting better at it. But when it comes
to actual like NASCAR racing in the trucks compared to
the NASCAR actual like cars, UM, I'd say a big
difference is the arrow. You're battling air a lot of
times because you think about you're going a hundred and
eighty miles per hour. Air is going to play a
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a big role, and so fighting the air, learning to
use the air to your advantage to make passes, and
different things like that. So basically what I'm getting from
you is that there's so much like strategy and detail
that goes into what you do. Like I guess I
would never think to think about like how the air
impacts you, or like how you were saying, like you
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want to be was it a tenth every time you
come through in a lap? Like all of those things.
This is very strategic. I feel like you have to
be super present. You can't like take a moment be
your mind, can't be drifting off. You have to be
very present. And that's something that takes a lot of
time and it takes a lot of effort to put torrents,
but I think that with like a good regiment, it's
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definitely possible. I think that's something that a lot of
people don't understand about Nascaris, and they just think, oh,
you're in a car and you're just turning left. It's
exactly the same way as I turn off the freeway
ramp left, and it's a lot different And there's so
much that goes into it behind the scenes, and I
think people are so quick to jump to conclusions of
oh she was a bad driver or oh he's a
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bad driver. Well, no, there's a lot that goes into it,
whether what happens with your truck that race, or if
your pit crew made a mistake. There's so much detail
that goes into it, and everyone has to play their
part perfectly in order for you to do good. Yeah.
So with that being said, would you say it's definitely
like a team effort because you just brought up like
pit crew and stuff like we see you racing, But
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like you said, there's so many other variables that are involved.
So how important is your pit crew too? What you're
doing and executing a really good race? Very very important
because say I come down pit road, we're under green
flag stuff, which means you have to come to pit
road undergreen flag um, and you have to make sure
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it's fast, Like you have to come to pit road,
hate your marks. You come in and say they lose
a tire out of the pit stall, say just simply
rules wigs. There's so much going on the matter of
underfit teen seconds and next thing you know, you're going
to lap down. You have to come back downpit road
and then your whole race is done right there. So
it takes a solid team effort from everyone to execute
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the goal. Yeah, that would stress me out. That is
the job I would never want because I'd be like
shaking and like so afraid to make a mistake. The
engineer's job to calculate the fuel the fuel mileage, so
you know what lap you have to pick. That is
a stressful job because you don't know exactly how much
fuel is being taken out, because you don't know if
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I could have shut it off under caution saving fuel,
or if I didn't shut it off enough under caution
saving fuel. And then next thing you know, you run
out guests. Your race is over. Wow. So is there
a communication device or something like that you have in
the car that you can communicate with everybody on your team? Yeah,
so there is spot er radios and so in my
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helmet there is like a whole wiring harness where I
plug my like actual like race headphones into and like
little ear buzz I put them in my ear, put
my helmet on, and I can talk to my spotter
who is in the spotter stands, um like you know
where like the stands are. It's on top of that,
so you can see the whole track, and so that's
why I'm talking to the whole race. And then also
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on pit road where my crew chief is, he also
has a radio and so he's talking to me also. Okay, UM,
so you were recently racing at Kansas Speedway, which is
the first track you ever raced or forward truck. What
was it like for you to be back there racing again?
It was fun. I love going back to tracks that
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I've raised it in the past because in the Truck
Series series with COVID that happened they shut down Olive Racing.
When they brought it back, they went straight into the races,
no practice, no qualifying. Well, someone like me, I'm a
rookie that has never been to a lot of these
tracks and every track is different, and trying to learn
the track at the moment we go green, it's very
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very difficult. And so being able to go back to Kansas,
I felt like we did a really good job there
of getting a good finish in general because I had
practice there, because I had experience on that track. Yeah, no, absolutely,
So you did just mentioned that you're still a rookie, Um,
but you've accomplished so much in such a short period
of time. What are you hoping to accomplish and like
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the next year, in the next few years. Obviously, my
main goal is to win races, and so my goal
would obviously be to win a race or even a few,
and then just make my way up the ranks and
try to prove myself and prove my ability as I go. Yeah. Um,
so you've previously just talked about like there's so much
to learn in this sport, especially when you don't win,
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or when you have a crash, or just when like
your strategy doesn't go as planned. Um, what have you
learned from those situations? I learned to not get my
head down too much, because there is twenty three races
in the year, and if you're too busy with your
hanging your head down over the last race, you're gonna
miss out on the next one. And I think my
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crew does a very good job of keeping my spirits
uplifted and staying positive because there is races where I
don't do good or something happens like we get a
flat tire or we get in a wreck that's not
our fault, and I am just bummed because I know
how much is on the line now. I know how
much I want to prove myself and that's something that
wears on me, and I think everyone around me does
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a really good job of helping me stay positive. What
does that look like for you? Like, what is staying
positive look like for you? Just words, I'd say, words
are the biggest thing. Just telling me like, hey, like,
forget about this weekend, We're going to the next one.
Like I know you're going to be good here, different
things like that, and just like, hey, don't worry about it.
Wasn't your fault. You can't change any of it. And
just hearing those little things and them telling me like
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when I do do good, like showing me like, hey,
like you did very very good, those little like congrats
and different things like that, they mean a lot to me. Yeah, no, absolutely,
I do. I do think just having those words of
encouragement and also just like allowing yourself to just be
a human and accept those like quote unquote failures is
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so important because I feel like we're similar and probably
a lot of other people can relate. Where you want
to be perfect? Do you want to just like execute?
You want to win all of those things, But it's
just like that human error, Like sometimes things don't go
as planned, but how you like register that and move
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forward is what makes the biggest difference. I agree completely.
So earlier we were speaking about just there not being
a lot of women, young girls in the sport. What
advice do you have two women in general that are
in male dominated fields, Like, what would you tell them
when it comes to justests making a name for themselves.
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You gotta work hard and you gotta love it. You
have to really love it because you will get Hey,
you will get bashed on, and that comes with the job,
and you're gonna have to learn how to run businesses um,
I have a YouTube channel, full time YouTube channel. Most
people only race or building YouTube and so like, I'm
trying to balance all of that while building new relationships.
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And I think something that a lot of people push
aside and don't notice is how much work you have
to put in and you you just have to be dedicated.
You have to love it. We're gonna take a short
break and we will be right back. Hey, everybody, welcome
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back to sweat the details. So at this point on
Sweat the Details, we like to play games with our
guests and we have a game that we came up
with where you called this or that. So basically you're
telling us what you prefer. Sorry, I'm ready, Okay, So
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I feel like I already know the answer to this.
Cardio or strength training, strength absolutely, racing cars or racing trucks.
Racing cars okay? And why I would say racing like
stock cars and stuff compared to offer road trucks because
the capabilities and the doors it opens for a good
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future in a career. Awesome running or cycling? Running? Why
I like running because I feel like it's a full
body workout and you really feel your body working. Um,
I'd say I don't really like cycling because I feel
like it's like another workout device and sometimes you just
want to like swing your arms and move your legers. Yeah,
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and like literally be able to move forward, although you
can do that if you like legit. But like not
just a stationaryone, not just a stationary But do you
prefer a window seat or an aisle seat? Window? Because
I can fall asleep on the wall. Okay. Um, So
still on traveling, are you the person that packs like
fifteen outfits for three days or are you like, okay,
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I'm there for three days, three outfits. I think my
biggest problem is packing two outfits for three days. Okay, Um,
how do you travel with all your racing gear? Like
do you check it in? Do you ship it? The
team actually takes it for me, so I have like
a semi that they take um with my truck and
everything to the racetrack and all the tools and everything,
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so my gear just stays in there. Got it. Realistically,
all I gotta bring is a little bit makeup and
like two outfits. That's easy because like for a lot
of other sports, your packing everything like oh every single
thing you need to compete. It's nice having like the
trucks actually go tray and then you can add extra
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stuff justin cames. Okay. Final question, when it comes to entertainment,
do you prefer listening to music or are you more
of like a TV watch a show, watch a movie
type of person. I would say I love listening to music.
I love I would say nineties to two thousand's rap. Um,
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that's my absolute favorite. And then um, I also like
eighties rock, Molly Crew, Guns and Roses that type music. Um.
But when it comes to I would say I would
choose music going about day to day, but at nighttime,
I like watching my movies, but I am like a
big based on true story like movies and stuff. I
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love watching stuff that happen in real life, like crime stuff. Um.
I love watching like documentaries on artists and different things
like that. I like seeing people's true stories. I like
knowing like the actual real stuff that happens, not the
may of stuff. Same. I also when it comes to
like documentaries like you just mentioned, I just love you know,
we have these people that we see as like icons
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or like these major your celebrities, and we can often
be like, oh, their life is so easy and perfect,
and I love when they have the documentaries and you
just see like not for all, but like for some,
like how rough things were for them. Are just like
all the different obstacles they had to go through. Because
then you're like, okay, like it helps to put things
into perspective and you're like, okay, they're actually like you know,
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they're human, but you know it shows more of the
humanity to them. Yeah. Like it sounds bad to say,
but I like seeing people's struggles and I like seeing
what they actually go through, Like I don't wish that
upon them, but I do like seeing how they make
it through those things. Yeah, then that's not bad at
all because I feel like I'm the same. I like
to see like the struggles they had, no matter what level,
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and how they overcame those things. It's very from it. Yeah,
you're like, Okay, it makes I don't know, whenever I
see it just makes me more motivated to do literally everything.
For sure. I'm like, you know, we gotta start another
business after this going on? Right now? I feel well
that is it. Um, this was so much fun. Please
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come back whenever you want. Thank you for joining us
on Sweat the Details. Thank you, I appreciate it was
so much fun. Thank you again to Hailey Deacon for
joining us and talking to us all about Nascar, her
passion for the sport, and all of the incredible things
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that she does to continue to improve her skill. I
really loved hearing her story. Yes, Haley is super inspirational. So, Samara,
what was your key takeaway from the conversation with her?
Probably the biggest takeaway that I had from our conversation
was just how physical Nascar is. When she was just
explaining like all of the variables that can influence a race,
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like wind and all these other things. I was like, Okay,
this is super strategic, but also like super physical. You
have to mentally be on all the time and you
can't let your mind wander like you have to be
right there in the moment. So I was like, oh, okay,
this is a lot more intense than I could have
ever imagined. So I want to say that was probably
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like the biggest thing I learned, and I feel like
our audience will take away from this as well. Yeah,
I mean it definitely sounds super intense, and especially the
kind of mental side of it, as you know, I
know that with the crashes and with the kind of
as you said, you have to be focused all the time,
and I feel like maybe that fear as well, you know,
the physical you're putting yourself in in a dangerous position
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really so you really can't afford to make a mistake.
But I really think, yeah, the physical and the mental
element together, it's that it's the whole, the whole package.
You're so right, super super super intense. But with that
being said, it is time for our final goal check in. Yes, absolutely,
let's do it. So unfortunately, as I was ill, I
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haven't been able to do you know, when more training
at all, and my body just feels kind of weak.
So I'm trying to have patience right now and just yeah,
take it easy and gradually I'll build back up hopefully
to where I was and then from there build on
for the marathon. But Tamara, how about you? Yeah, this
entire season, I've just been talking about training for the hetathlon,
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but my training has been really good. I was training
with my coach a couple of weeks ago and we
finally started to do more of like skills specific things,
so I was working on high jump and hurdling, which
was really exciting also like really scary. Um. I feel
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like my brain was at emoji where it's like the
exploding brain because there was so much new information just
to like taken. But that was a cool feeling because
I don't know the last time I've been like totally
totally new to something, so like kind of feeling like
nervous but excited was really awesome. So what do you
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need now? Like moving forward? Obviously with all the different
disciplines and all the things you're going to have to
do to to get to your heptath on competition, what
do you need now in terms of support from myself
and from the listeners. Yeah, I think just like my
coach actually gave me this reminder where he was just like,
you can't be afraid, like you're new to it, you
don't know how to do it, but just be fearless,
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like just try it. So I think like to have
that type of reminder, to have that mindset going into
something new, would be wonderful. And for you, I know you,
you know you're mentioning that you're still recovering and just
trying to regain your health. So what can we do
to support you as you're just like trying to get back. Yeah,
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I mean you're absolutely right, that is I've definitely felt
so many things, you know, felt frustrated and I felt,
you know, my body feels weak. But you know, people
talk about self compassion and just listen to your body,
but when you actually injured or actually ill, it's so challenging.
But I'm trying to be patient, know that. Yeah, right now,
most importantly just building up my health. The training I
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think will come back, you know, but for now, I'm
just yeah focused on that. Yeah. My final thing on that,
and that's exactly what I was about to say, is
like recovering from like a really intense surgery. It did
feel like, oh my god, I don't know if I'm
ever gonna walk normal again. But I will say in hindsight,
like it does get better. You're going to get back
to where you were before, and then you're actually probably
gonna end up being better. So I think if you
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can just like remember that and just let each moment
be what it's supposed to be, um, You'll be totally fine. Well,
thanks Sama, and yeah for any listeners as well, if
you have been ill and you're on that recovery team
as well, then just take it easy and reach out.
Let us know on social media if you're working towards
your goal, how you're progressing. You can find me on
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My dad never treated me differently growing up. He treated
me like one of the guys when they came to
racing and off road chuck racing, and I held myself
just as accountable as they did for doing good in races.
And at one point I had the target on my
back of being not just the girl to be, but
the person to be in off road racing, and that
was something I held very proudly. I was excited to
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have that pressure, and I think that's something that honestly
formed me into the person I am today, of not
trying to play this girl role of oh, I'm the
best finisher for a girl, of trying to be the
best in general. This is what The Details a collaboration
with Underrama and I Heart Radio, a podcast made for
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women by women that puts our training, journeys, boals, and
mindst at this center. I'm Tamera Pridget and I'm Adrian Herbert's.
Every episode will hear from athletes, trainers, and experts who
will give us insights how our bodies and minds work
together in training and competition. In today's season ending episode,
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we're talking about training for NASCAR. Yes, you heard that right, Nascar.
We chat with up and coming superstar Haley Degan. Haley
is a professional stock car driver in the NASCAR Camping
World Truck Series. Hailey is such an exciting person to watch,
not only because she is a woman in a highly
male dominated sport, but because she competes and wins against
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some of the best in sport regardless of gender. Yes,
and what's so amazing is that NASCAR is not only
a physical sport, but it's also super mental as well.
The strategy and focus that it takes to do well
and not crash is enormous. I can't wait to hear
from Haley about how she trains her mind and her
body for the rigors of NASCAR. I'm so excited for
(01:51):
this conversation. Yes, me too. I know this conversation is
going to be super inspiring. Unfortunately, as I was unwell,
I was unable to join for this final recording. But
I know that you did an awesome job, Tamara, and
as this is our final episode of the season, I
don't think we should waste any more time. What do
you think, Tamara. Let's jump into it. Let's do it. Hi, Hailey,
(02:16):
welcome to sweat the details. Were super excited to have
you on this podcast. Thank you. I'm excited to be
on it. So let's just jump right into it. I
would love to know how you got into racing, how
you got into NASCAR. So back when I was about
seven years old, my dad was doing freestyle motocross, UM
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a lot in action sports, X games, all that stuff,
and he made the transition into racing off road trucks.
And I was just about to turn eight at that time.
And I remember going to his first race when I
was still seven years old, back in two thousand and eight,
and I was like, man, there's kids my age racing
these like small off road trucks. And I was obsessed
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with that. I wanted to do it so bad, and
so end up begging my parents. Keep in mind, I'm
like the firstborn kid and at that time, like they
just had my younger brother, and so they were like, okay, fine,
and they end up getting me an off road truck
for my eighth birthday and then ever since then, I
never looked back. I started raising. Yes, I started racing
off road trucks for about I would say six to
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eight years after that. UM, I won a bunch of championships,
one a bunch of races, and then I got picked
up from a manufacturer to go raise stock cars. Okay,
so one eight years old, you were probably the coolest
like eight year old ever. Um, if I was your friend,
I'd be so jealous. My second thing is when you
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started racing. Was it something you wanted to do professionally
from the jump or were you just doing it for fun?
I would say when I first started out is something
that I did for fun because I was already at
the track with my dad. He was racing all the time,
so going there it was almost like it just came
easy because we were already all at the track. And
then I would say I was about twelve thirteen years old,
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and that's when I really made the transition into focusing
into racing as my career. I ended up begging my
parents and I actually wrote like a five page essay
on why should be homeschooled so that I could spend
more time racing. And when I was about thirteen years old,
I was in seventh grade, i remember, and then I
quit going to actual school started home schooling so I
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could be able to race more. I love that. That's
like dedication. So growing up where there are any women
or even presently that and inspired you in NASCAR. It's
funny you say that, because there's not many women in NASCAR.
That's the thing. It's very limited when it comes to
girls that actually race in general, it's very very small percentage.
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I could probably name every single girl, um that I've
known that racist stock cars on one hand, and that's
just from being up the ranks and stuff, and like
that's not just one series, that's like all of the
series combined. And there's just not many girls that do
it in all honesty, and so I never really had
a figure to look up to. And that's something like
I didn't pay attention in a NASCAR at all when
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I was growing up racing off road trucks because I
was on the West Coast, it wasn't my scene. Offroad
truck racing was my scene, and until I was about
fifteen years old, that's when NASCAR became my scene. Got it. So,
being that there aren't many girls and women in the sport,
what has that experience been like for you? Do you
feel like it's like you and the guys have they
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been welcoming to you. I've gotten very used to it. Um,
just not having girls around constantly being around guys, and
that's something that's become very normal to me. And my
dad never treated me differently growing up. He treated me
like one of the guys and like how every other
dad treated their son. When it came to racing an
off road truck racing, and I became friends with all
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the guys and it was just very normal. Like I
didn't see I thought I was one of the guys,
and so like, I held myself just as accountable as
they did for doing good in races. And at one
point I had the target on my back of being
not just the girl to be, but the person to
be an off road racing and that was something I
held very proudly and I was super excited. I was
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excited to have that pressure, and I think that's something
that honestly formed me into the person I am today
of not trying to play this girl role of oh
I'm the best finisher for a girl, of trying to
be the best in general. Mm hm. So I am
curious what does training look like for racing. It's a
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hot and cold area when it comes to training and
things like that. Because you can talk to some people,
some people are just very naturally good racers, and then
other ones have to work for it a little bit harder.
But training has always been something that's been a part
of my life for a long time. Ever since I
was nine years old, I've been in the gym, and
that's just a product of my dad having a really
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close friend that owned a gym, and so I was
just there every day and it was very normal for me,
and I got on a regiment of working out every
day is what I do. I do not feel like
I didn't my day right if I didn't work out,
And so I think there's a lot of training regimens
when it comes to NASCAR racing that um, it kind
of just varies depending on the driver and what they
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really want to do. But I'm someone who likes pushing
my body and pushing the limits of what I can do,
always setting new prs, different things like that. I feel
like that's something that the people of NASCAR and the
driver is at race NASCAR are just getting into. And
I grew up in a family of that. Motocross is
very very hard on your body, and you have to
be in very good shape to be a part of
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it and to do it, And so that was something
that I've been around. So going into the NASCAR world,
not many people train and it's just honestly entry level
training that a lot of people are starting, which is
kind of weird to me because I feel like, if
you're doing something this hard on your body, why wouldn't
you want to be training? Because people have no problem
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just getting out of the car throwing up from heat exhaustion,
and I'm like, why do you want to do that
to yourself? Like, you know you can train and like
actually prevent those things from happening. And so that's one
thing that I've noticed over time. It's about a hundred
hundred thirty four degrees in these cars and there's not
much air moving around inside the actual car, and you're
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in there for two to three hours, maybe even four
sometimes in the longer races, and so it's miserable hot
in there. So if you can do things to prepare beforehand,
why wouldn't you And that's something that I like to
do a lot. So I'm not the one throwing up
after the race, so I'm not the one stumbling out
of the car. So what does that look like? Is
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it cardio? Is it strength training? Like? What do you
do to not puke when you get out of the car.
I would say what I do is I love doing cardio.
I love a lot jump, roping, running. Um, I've noticed
my back pain has elevated a lot since I started
lifting a lot during the off season, and so now
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I'm hurting in the gym a little more than I
used to, which I guess is normal. But I love
I truly have a passion for lifting and squatting in
different things like that, and so when it comes to weight,
I love it like I love doing weights, And something
that's kind of hard for me to do is cardio
because I'm like, ah, like I go for a run
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or I could go to squats squat rack, and so
that's something that like I have to I have to
battle myself and be like, no, today is cardio, Like
you gotta go do cardio today. But I'd say it's
more like I just I like doing my workouts how
I feel depending on that day. Yeah, that's awesome. Um,
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so you mentioned that you're sitting in the car for
you know, two to three hours, maybe up to four hours.
What is going through your mind? This is what I
used to ask distance runners when they did like super
long races, because like I was a short spinter, we're
done after like twenty something seconds, running for like thirty minutes,
driving for four hours. Like what are you thinking about? Like,
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are you constantly just like thinking about your strategy where
you're at when you're gonna make your next move. Are
you kind of just like you know, just let your
mind go where it goes. I would say it's more
thinking about your next move, whether it's you being in
that position. It's mostly a perfection thing of trying to
make every corner perfect and every lap perfect, and in
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these races and stuff like usually have to be within
a tenth of a second every single lap. And so
that's something like you have to hold yourself accountable to
not make mistakes because it's like a domino effect. You
make a mistake, you get past, and it just starts
dominoing down. And so that's something that like you have
to be so focused inside the car and like just
straight mind on racing and trying to figure out what
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you're going to do next to get that next position. Yeah.
So on the flip side, we've spoken a lot about
like how important just like mental training is um I
watched an interview and your dad was speaking and he said,
when he was younger, he was working on you with
like your mental training because of the boys and how
they would try to intimidate you or make you trash. Um.
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Coming to present day, do you do any type of
mental training so that you're staying sharp so that you
can make those moves and stay where you need to be.
I al would say, that's something that I learned at
a very young age, and it was a lot for years. Um.
I had a driving coach back when I was younger
who helped me um during the races and stuff. Um.
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He spotted for me quite a bit also, and a
lot of his tactics were mind games, and I started
figuring it out and started to figure out his ways
and like what he was doing. And that's something that
over time I'm able to catch onto things to how
to be the person playing the mind games and be
the person putting you in tough positions. And that's the
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something that's that's how you make passes in racing, is
trying to psych him out of by I'm going this way, now,
I'm going this way. Here we go, and it's over
by then. And I would say That's something that I
learned at such a young age, so it comes naturally
to me, now, got it. No, I love the mind games.
I think that's such a big key to just sport
in generalism. I agree, how can you psych out your competition?
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Like when I'm saying it now, I'm like, wow, that
actually kind of sounds mean. But and like in the
act of competing, it's like, you gotta do what you
gotta do. It's just a part of the game exactly.
There's one person that wins, and I best believe I'd
rather play in my game on you and win. That's
how it is when you're an athlete and you play sports.
That's how it is. Yeah, So for those of us
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who aren't really familiar with racing, can you tell us
how racing trucks differs from racing cars. So we'll start
with off road trucks compared to actual stock a racing.
So off road trucks, you're on a dirt track that
is kind of like most of the shapes of the
track is kind of like a horseshoe shape. That's kind
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of like relatively what most of the tracks are shaped
like a bunch of big jumps and there's shorter races,
so offer truck racing, which I don't race anymore, um,
but that's why I grew up racing. There about thirty
minute races and is a hundred and ten percent the
whole time. There's trucks flipping everywhere. You're getting roosted with
rocks stirret, you have tear offfs and you're shifting and
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there's a lot going on. Well, when you go to
stock car racing, it's a lot more patient and perfection
and trying to be perfect every single lap and almost
like less is more like not overdoing it, which an
offer racing. Overdoing it meant you go fast. You went faster.
So that's something that I had to get used to
over time, and so getting used to the patients and
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that's something I'm still learning to this day as patients.
But we're getting better at it. But when it comes
to actual like NASCAR racing in the trucks compared to
the NASCAR actual like cars, UM, I'd say a big
difference is the arrow. You're battling air a lot of
times because you think about you're going a hundred and
eighty miles per hour. Air is going to play a
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a big role, and so fighting the air, learning to
use the air to your advantage to make passes, and
different things like that. So basically what I'm getting from
you is that there's so much like strategy and detail
that goes into what you do. Like I guess I
would never think to think about like how the air
impacts you, or like how you were saying, like you
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want to be was it a tenth every time you
come through in a lap? Like all of those things.
This is very strategic. I feel like you have to
be super present. You can't like take a moment be
your mind, can't be drifting off. You have to be
very present. And that's something that takes a lot of
time and it takes a lot of effort to put torrents,
but I think that with like a good regiment, it's
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definitely possible. I think that's something that a lot of
people don't understand about Nascaris, and they just think, oh,
you're in a car and you're just turning left. It's
exactly the same way as I turn off the freeway
ramp left, and it's a lot different And there's so
much that goes into it behind the scenes, and I
think people are so quick to jump to conclusions of
oh she was a bad driver or oh he's a
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bad driver. Well, no, there's a lot that goes into it,
whether what happens with your truck that race, or if
your pit crew made a mistake. There's so much detail
that goes into it, and everyone has to play their
part perfectly in order for you to do good. Yeah.
So with that being said, would you say it's definitely
like a team effort because you just brought up like
pit crew and stuff like we see you racing, But
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like you said, there's so many other variables that are involved.
So how important is your pit crew too? What you're
doing and executing a really good race? Very very important
because say I come down pit road, we're under green
flag stuff, which means you have to come to pit
road undergreen flag um, and you have to make sure
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it's fast, Like you have to come to pit road,
hate your marks. You come in and say they lose
a tire out of the pit stall, say just simply
rules wigs. There's so much going on the matter of
underfit teen seconds and next thing you know, you're going
to lap down. You have to come back downpit road
and then your whole race is done right there. So
it takes a solid team effort from everyone to execute
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the goal. Yeah, that would stress me out. That is
the job I would never want because I'd be like
shaking and like so afraid to make a mistake. The
engineer's job to calculate the fuel the fuel mileage, so
you know what lap you have to pick. That is
a stressful job because you don't know exactly how much
fuel is being taken out, because you don't know if
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I could have shut it off under caution saving fuel,
or if I didn't shut it off enough under caution
saving fuel. And then next thing you know, you run
out guests. Your race is over. Wow. So is there
a communication device or something like that you have in
the car that you can communicate with everybody on your team? Yeah,
so there is spot er radios and so in my
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helmet there is like a whole wiring harness where I
plug my like actual like race headphones into and like
little ear buzz I put them in my ear, put
my helmet on, and I can talk to my spotter
who is in the spotter stands, um like you know
where like the stands are. It's on top of that,
so you can see the whole track, and so that's
why I'm talking to the whole race. And then also
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on pit road where my crew chief is, he also
has a radio and so he's talking to me also. Okay, UM,
so you were recently racing at Kansas Speedway, which is
the first track you ever raced or forward truck. What
was it like for you to be back there racing again?
It was fun. I love going back to tracks that
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I've raised it in the past because in the Truck
Series series with COVID that happened they shut down Olive Racing.
When they brought it back, they went straight into the races,
no practice, no qualifying. Well, someone like me, I'm a
rookie that has never been to a lot of these
tracks and every track is different, and trying to learn
the track at the moment we go green, it's very
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very difficult. And so being able to go back to Kansas,
I felt like we did a really good job there
of getting a good finish in general because I had
practice there, because I had experience on that track. Yeah, no, absolutely,
So you did just mentioned that you're still a rookie, Um,
but you've accomplished so much in such a short period
of time. What are you hoping to accomplish and like
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the next year, in the next few years. Obviously, my
main goal is to win races, and so my goal
would obviously be to win a race or even a few,
and then just make my way up the ranks and
try to prove myself and prove my ability as I go. Yeah. Um,
so you've previously just talked about like there's so much
to learn in this sport, especially when you don't win,
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or when you have a crash, or just when like
your strategy doesn't go as planned. Um, what have you
learned from those situations? I learned to not get my
head down too much, because there is twenty three races
in the year, and if you're too busy with your
hanging your head down over the last race, you're gonna
miss out on the next one. And I think my
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crew does a very good job of keeping my spirits
uplifted and staying positive because there is races where I
don't do good or something happens like we get a
flat tire or we get in a wreck that's not
our fault, and I am just bummed because I know
how much is on the line now. I know how
much I want to prove myself and that's something that
wears on me, and I think everyone around me does
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a really good job of helping me stay positive. What
does that look like for you? Like, what is staying
positive look like for you? Just words, I'd say, words
are the biggest thing. Just telling me like, hey, like,
forget about this weekend, We're going to the next one.
Like I know you're going to be good here, different
things like that, and just like, hey, don't worry about it.
Wasn't your fault. You can't change any of it. And
just hearing those little things and them telling me like
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when I do do good, like showing me like, hey,
like you did very very good, those little like congrats
and different things like that, they mean a lot to me. Yeah, no, absolutely,
I do. I do think just having those words of
encouragement and also just like allowing yourself to just be
a human and accept those like quote unquote failures is
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so important because I feel like we're similar and probably
a lot of other people can relate. Where you want
to be perfect? Do you want to just like execute?
You want to win all of those things, But it's
just like that human error, Like sometimes things don't go
as planned, but how you like register that and move
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forward is what makes the biggest difference. I agree completely.
So earlier we were speaking about just there not being
a lot of women, young girls in the sport. What
advice do you have two women in general that are
in male dominated fields, Like, what would you tell them
when it comes to justests making a name for themselves.
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You gotta work hard and you gotta love it. You
have to really love it because you will get Hey,
you will get bashed on, and that comes with the job,
and you're gonna have to learn how to run businesses um,
I have a YouTube channel, full time YouTube channel. Most
people only race or building YouTube and so like, I'm
trying to balance all of that while building new relationships.
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And I think something that a lot of people push
aside and don't notice is how much work you have
to put in and you you just have to be dedicated.
You have to love it. We're gonna take a short
break and we will be right back. Hey, everybody, welcome
(21:42):
back to sweat the details. So at this point on
Sweat the Details, we like to play games with our
guests and we have a game that we came up
with where you called this or that. So basically you're
telling us what you prefer. Sorry, I'm ready, Okay, So
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I feel like I already know the answer to this.
Cardio or strength training, strength absolutely, racing cars or racing trucks.
Racing cars okay? And why I would say racing like
stock cars and stuff compared to offer road trucks because
the capabilities and the doors it opens for a good
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future in a career. Awesome running or cycling? Running? Why
I like running because I feel like it's a full
body workout and you really feel your body working. Um,
I'd say I don't really like cycling because I feel
like it's like another workout device and sometimes you just
want to like swing your arms and move your legers. Yeah,
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and like literally be able to move forward, although you
can do that if you like legit. But like not
just a stationaryone, not just a stationary But do you
prefer a window seat or an aisle seat? Window? Because
I can fall asleep on the wall. Okay. Um, So
still on traveling, are you the person that packs like
fifteen outfits for three days or are you like, okay,
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I'm there for three days, three outfits. I think my
biggest problem is packing two outfits for three days. Okay, Um,
how do you travel with all your racing gear? Like
do you check it in? Do you ship it? The
team actually takes it for me, so I have like
a semi that they take um with my truck and
everything to the racetrack and all the tools and everything,
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so my gear just stays in there. Got it. Realistically,
all I gotta bring is a little bit makeup and
like two outfits. That's easy because like for a lot
of other sports, your packing everything like oh every single
thing you need to compete. It's nice having like the
trucks actually go tray and then you can add extra
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stuff justin cames. Okay. Final question, when it comes to entertainment,
do you prefer listening to music or are you more
of like a TV watch a show, watch a movie
type of person. I would say I love listening to music.
I love I would say nineties to two thousand's rap. Um,
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that's my absolute favorite. And then um, I also like
eighties rock, Molly Crew, Guns and Roses that type music. Um.
But when it comes to I would say I would
choose music going about day to day, but at nighttime,
I like watching my movies, but I am like a
big based on true story like movies and stuff. I
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love watching stuff that happen in real life, like crime stuff. Um.
I love watching like documentaries on artists and different things
like that. I like seeing people's true stories. I like
knowing like the actual real stuff that happens, not the
may of stuff. Same. I also when it comes to
like documentaries like you just mentioned, I just love you know,
we have these people that we see as like icons
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or like these major your celebrities, and we can often
be like, oh, their life is so easy and perfect,
and I love when they have the documentaries and you
just see like not for all, but like for some,
like how rough things were for them. Are just like
all the different obstacles they had to go through. Because
then you're like, okay, like it helps to put things
into perspective and you're like, okay, they're actually like you know,
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they're human, but you know it shows more of the
humanity to them. Yeah. Like it sounds bad to say,
but I like seeing people's struggles and I like seeing
what they actually go through, Like I don't wish that
upon them, but I do like seeing how they make
it through those things. Yeah, then that's not bad at
all because I feel like I'm the same. I like
to see like the struggles they had, no matter what level,
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and how they overcame those things. It's very from it. Yeah,
you're like, Okay, it makes I don't know, whenever I
see it just makes me more motivated to do literally everything.
For sure. I'm like, you know, we gotta start another
business after this going on? Right now? I feel well
that is it. Um, this was so much fun. Please
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come back whenever you want. Thank you for joining us
on Sweat the Details. Thank you, I appreciate it was
so much fun. Thank you again to Hailey Deacon for
joining us and talking to us all about Nascar, her
passion for the sport, and all of the incredible things
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that she does to continue to improve her skill. I
really loved hearing her story. Yes, Haley is super inspirational. So, Samara,
what was your key takeaway from the conversation with her?
Probably the biggest takeaway that I had from our conversation
was just how physical Nascar is. When she was just
explaining like all of the variables that can influence a race,
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like wind and all these other things. I was like, Okay,
this is super strategic, but also like super physical. You
have to mentally be on all the time and you
can't let your mind wander like you have to be
right there in the moment. So I was like, oh, okay,
this is a lot more intense than I could have
ever imagined. So I want to say that was probably
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like the biggest thing I learned, and I feel like
our audience will take away from this as well. Yeah,
I mean it definitely sounds super intense, and especially the
kind of mental side of it, as you know, I
know that with the crashes and with the kind of
as you said, you have to be focused all the time,
and I feel like maybe that fear as well, you know,
the physical you're putting yourself in in a dangerous position
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really so you really can't afford to make a mistake.
But I really think, yeah, the physical and the mental
element together, it's that it's the whole, the whole package.
You're so right, super super super intense. But with that
being said, it is time for our final goal check in. Yes, absolutely,
let's do it. So unfortunately, as I was ill, I
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haven't been able to do you know, when more training
at all, and my body just feels kind of weak.
So I'm trying to have patience right now and just yeah,
take it easy and gradually I'll build back up hopefully
to where I was and then from there build on
for the marathon. But Tamara, how about you? Yeah, this
entire season, I've just been talking about training for the hetathlon,
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but my training has been really good. I was training
with my coach a couple of weeks ago and we
finally started to do more of like skills specific things,
so I was working on high jump and hurdling, which
was really exciting also like really scary. Um. I feel
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like my brain was at emoji where it's like the
exploding brain because there was so much new information just
to like taken. But that was a cool feeling because
I don't know the last time I've been like totally
totally new to something, so like kind of feeling like
nervous but excited was really awesome. So what do you
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need now? Like moving forward? Obviously with all the different
disciplines and all the things you're going to have to
do to to get to your heptath on competition, what
do you need now in terms of support from myself
and from the listeners. Yeah, I think just like my
coach actually gave me this reminder where he was just like,
you can't be afraid, like you're new to it, you
don't know how to do it, but just be fearless,
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like just try it. So I think like to have
that type of reminder, to have that mindset going into
something new, would be wonderful. And for you, I know you,
you know you're mentioning that you're still recovering and just
trying to regain your health. So what can we do
to support you as you're just like trying to get back. Yeah,
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I mean you're absolutely right, that is I've definitely felt
so many things, you know, felt frustrated and I felt,
you know, my body feels weak. But you know, people
talk about self compassion and just listen to your body,
but when you actually injured or actually ill, it's so challenging.
But I'm trying to be patient, know that. Yeah, right now,
most importantly just building up my health. The training I
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think will come back, you know, but for now, I'm
just yeah focused on that. Yeah. My final thing on that,
and that's exactly what I was about to say, is
like recovering from like a really intense surgery. It did
feel like, oh my god, I don't know if I'm
ever gonna walk normal again. But I will say in hindsight,
like it does get better. You're going to get back
to where you were before, and then you're actually probably
gonna end up being better. So I think if you
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can just like remember that and just let each moment
be what it's supposed to be, um, You'll be totally fine. Well,
thanks Sama, and yeah for any listeners as well, if
you have been ill and you're on that recovery team
as well, then just take it easy and reach out.
Let us know on social media if you're working towards
your goal, how you're progressing. You can find me on
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Twitter and Instagram at Adrian Underscore l d M, and
you can find me on Instagram at TAM's Going Ham
and on Twitter at Tamara Bridget. That's it for this
season of Sweat the Details. Thank you for joining us
on this ride. It has been such an exciting season
with so many amazing guests. Yes, we have learned so
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much and had a lot of fun in the process.
Until next time, stay tuned in, stay motivated, and don't
Forget to Sweat the Details by Everybody Bye. If you
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a collaboration with under Armour and I Heart Radio. Our
show was hosted by me Camera Pridget and me Adrian Herbert.
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Our executive producers are Jess Shribe, Stein Chazelle, Luis Archibald
and Molly Sosha. Our supervising producer is Mya Cole. Our
producers are Ellen Capp and Kelly Antole. Our assistant producers
are Natalia Tamayo and Bella Walko and all sound ensa
and engineer Sarah Gibel Laska. Keep up with the latest
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