March 27, 2024 • 16 mins
Today’s guest Dr. Glenda Baskin Glover, PhD, JD, CPA, President, Tennessee State University and Tennessee Titans 2024 Inspire Changemaker Awardee joins host Tommi A. Vincent on Radio Row during Super Bowl LVIII to discuss leadership, the recognition from the Tennessee Titans, mentorship, and more.
Dr. Glenda Baskin Glover is an agent for change leaving her mark on our future leaders. A few of Dr. Glover’s highlights:
- Tennessee Titans Inspire Changemaker award recipient
- Currently serves as President of Tennessee State
- First HBCU Hockey Team under Dr. Glover’s leadership
- Former International President of Alpha Kappa Alpha
Host: Tommi A. Vincent
Guests: Dr. Glenda Baskin Glover
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sitting with us at the table.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We have a doctor Glinda Baskin Glover, President at Tennessee
State University and the Tennessee Titans twenty twenty four Inspire
Change Maker Awarding.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Enjoy our conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Take a seat, get comfortable because it's time to stay
a while. I'm your host, Tommy Vincent, and I am
speaking with doctor Glover.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
How are you today, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Today is a good day. I'm so excited to meet
here as a speaker of you is a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Great dad and you are here at the super Bowl
super Bowl week because tell us why.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, every team, every NFL club chooses a person to
receive the Inspire Change Award, and a tiny selected me and.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I'm so I'm so grateful, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And with that came a shift to the super Bowl
once you found I was coming and you invited me.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
In your show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So you're receiving the Inspired Change Award.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Why well, I believe and based on conversations with them,
just because of my commitment to HBC News and to
higher education and things that we've been able to.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Accomplish for the higher education arena and to develop.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Models that will assist HBCUs around our country because HBCUs
need assistance. They need yes, they always need funding. They
need advocacy base, they need advocates to speak up for
them to talk about the needs the BASEBC News as
a capital, the halls of Congo's, the state capitals and
(01:55):
legislatives to let them know that there are basic needs
of HPC News that's just gone overlooked and they're closely
and severely underfunded. And so I took on the battle
and UH and I have been working with the Titans
and they've been so supportive for hpre SIS and the
Tense State University. The biggest surprise they told me you're
(02:20):
you're what it is You're I said, you're a kidding me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Why why was that your personal charge to take on?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, because I have a commitment and a passion for
African American education for students and say, essay, it goes
to the high school. We sit down and talked to
the councils and principals and directors of school education to
let them know that here's the requirements are.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Because if you don't.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Get it to them now when they gets to me
as a college, that was too late and so and
it's so important that the education is viewed us as
what it really represents our community. I always tell people
I can take any student, any student anywhere. I'm making
a scholar. And so our students come to TSU, which
the other HBCUs with sometimes from just all they have
(03:17):
is hope doing a better life, first generation college students.
If I can just get a college degree, I can
help my family. I got a politude. So we're stressed
on the front end doing this because otherwise on the
back end it's prison. It's more our more social workers
for their problems is going to exist. So why not
(03:37):
make education show us as opposed to love our church.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
How did you get in the space where you started
working in education?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Was that always your plan?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Actually it wasn't. My fan was to head up a
major corporation. I want to be seeing of a fortunate
five hundred company, and that's.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
What I set out to zoo.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
But if you live like I do in the spirit world,
you know you listen to your God voice. It just
wasn't my calling. My calling is higher education. My calling
is educated African American students to show them that there
is a way out of this. It is to choose
a career choose a major, decide what you want to do,
(04:26):
let us help you get there. That's just been my
passion for the last thirty years.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So you talked about first generation students, you know, leading
the charge of saying, I'm going to make education one
of the tools that I use to propel myself forward.
What would you say to someone listening who doesn't have
an example of someone who pursued higher education. They're scared
(04:53):
to death, They're concerned about all the things, how can
I pay for it? I don't want to leave, you know,
home and walk away from taking care maybe of someone
and making sure that everything is okay here, or even their.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Younger siblings that they're concerned about. What would you share
with them?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
BRIDO.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oddly enough, that is our population. That's our entire population.
Some students come to us knowing that they have to
get a job while they're there to send money back
to their families. We don't have many classes that we
offer in the afternoons because most of our two thirds
are them working afternoons.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
But if you don't have a.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Class before two o'clock, because after that they're gone to
other places. When not just I'm not saying anything to
law firms and making major decisions. They're working in places
like they'll go to the mall and find a job,
fast food and somewhere so they can get.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Funds and send back home.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And they said, and they're they're committed that what I
what I like so much about the students is that
they want to participate in their families, uplifting not just
for them but for the entire family.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And there they were.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
They're so committed their passion about what they're doing, they want.
They will not let this harve has passed. They will
lot that it needs that much to them. So I
just say to them, starting determined at an early age
what you want to do so and let people help
you get there. You will always have a mentor in
your household. Because our families don't sit around the table
(06:27):
and talk about let me cash in and I see
you to go to go to college or I'm going
to sell some stock in you and I'm wanting to
make and get along.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's not who we are.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We do. We teach them how to go to college.
I had a program when I was international president. I
forgot they offer. Where we want to is how to
go to college, how to apply for story, how to
come back now and get financially because we can always
go online and get the application process. Then it stops
right to come back into how to follow up, how
to check the power of education, how to how to
(06:58):
make sure you have everything in on time when they
should seleect you. For to come back and review almost
like an audit, to refuse called verification, how to get
documents in. So all of that's missing in our population.
So we made a point just helps till us get
into college and then once they get there. You know,
we talked to teachings. You got to be a role model,
(07:18):
and they speak to you world more than his professor.
I'm more than as a president. Sometimes I'm a role model.
I'm a mentor, I'm a sponsor. I'm a social worker.
You know, bring me problems. I broke up with somebody,
a crier.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I said to myself, Oh, how grateful you should be,
But I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So you are successful. You've accomplished a lot of things
to date, because you're not finished. Clearly, you're still working
on leaving your thumb print in the earth. And as
you said, you are led by what God is telling
(08:09):
you to do. What is the accomplishment to date when
you think about it, that you're even blowing away, but
by what was done.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Well, I tell you there's accomplishment and that's what I
did know. So on the top of the complishment, first,
I think the greed is a confidence for any college
president and I know different. It's to see the students
walk across stage ngratuation that is that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Does so much.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Then sometimes I'll tell you, thank you so much. I
want to be just like you. Every things like that,
And really, I mean that's the grades accomplishment. And then
is a specific at Tennessee State. I just think making
tears you a national land.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, to put the.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
In a on a worldwide stage. You know, we're being
discussing wounds that we had never thought about. The White House,
they're calling our names, and so that to me is
such an accomplishment for our university for the vice preends
in the United States to come to our campus. The
first HBCU were the first school and she visited as
(09:24):
a commission speaker, so she got after she got in office.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Was Tennessee State University. So it's a it's a real honors.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So we're proud of girls thing and uncle Winberg came
back to our mississpeaker last year to have the relationship
with our laws are so key to the university.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Those things are very very special.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
What do you believe the greatest opposition is to usually
accomplishing the things that you desire to accomplish for your university.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Indeed, the biggest problem for the biggest But I didn't
learn the Tennessee State as a student because it's not
a test work. It's a level of non acceptance and
you will encounter as an accompassed black woman, that is
not the expectation for you. But I've learned that I
have to learn that through the school of hard knots.
(10:15):
That it doesn't matter about your degrees. Yeah, I know
I'm a lawyer and I know I'm a CPA. I
can walk in the rooms in the courtrooms, I can
walk into businesses and tell you what's wrong. But analoge
like a bot to care, I can analyze and tarry
what's going on. That's you don't have that level of respect. Well,
it's not accepted as much because that's not the expectation
(10:35):
of you. There's a pathway in their minds that you
should you cannot go beyond and if you appear to
be going beyond that, you become a target. The how
you the hire you go up decline, the more of
a target of the come. You know, I talk to
black women, you know, you know, you just sit around
(10:56):
and talk sometimes in the corporate world and higher education
and the presidice and Hebrew and you know probost level,
we're talking about some of the issues and we all
have agreed that you become a target the same reasons
they bring you into a corporation. It's for those same
reasons they become intimidated by you later on. You know,
(11:17):
you know, I should incorporate boards and I and I
see the need for more African Americans to be in leadership.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know, I shouldn't have bought a Pinnacle Bank.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And they make they make such a great effort to
be to have the diverse effort inclusion. It's not just
a statement for them, it's a way of life for
our company to make sure that people really, I mean,
they're really committed to having more African Americans and more
winter Well, I don't see the everwhere I go. Sometimes
it's just it's a comment that's made, but it's not
(11:50):
the fulfillment that needs to be out there. So that
is the biggest challenge I see is that it's not
that level of not accepting that you can't get around
the targe that you become if you're too smart in
their minds, if you can know, how dare you sit
there and talk to me's if you're on my equal
you're on my level. You sitting in front of me
(12:12):
telling me I'm going to something wrong? How dare you
tell me that I owe you two from one billion dollars?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Are you crazy? You know?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
And that's that's what happens when you begin to speak
out about investices and you can't be afraid ever to
call racism racism.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But that's what it is that exists.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And the average racist doesn't even believe they're racist, and
they'll tell you first time, but I'm not a racist,
but you know so, so he said. But that that
make sure I ri raise. So that's your rid of
your the guard for not to be afraid to challenge it.
That cost you a lot, It cost you quite a bit.
(12:54):
But you have to make a choice. That's what the
Me Too movement came about. Stay hushed up all these
years and finding somebody had enough nerve to say I
can't take any more of this. I want to come
forward and talk about this, and so as therefore me too,
who was born. So that's how it has to be.
(13:15):
And when black women leadership have to make the decision,
now here's some There're gonna be some consequences. But I'm
gonna decide do I choose now to I'm not gonna
keep quiet. I be like Moses and something that fiction
with my people.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, man, I'm listening to you talk, and obviously.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I am interviewing you for this conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
We're in conversation together, but I'm getting so drawn into
I know that you have experienced.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
In life that I don't and I value that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Will you share some words of wisdom with women like myself,
who God willing still has the opportunity to utilize the
platforms and positions that we have to leave our mark
in the earth living a purpose filled life.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And that's a wonderful common sadon to have, because that's
what I'm doing in these days. I'm in the fourth
quarter of my career. You know, I've been fift yard
line where I've read the fourth quarter of my career around,
and I'm trying to let other young black professions know.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
That this is what you have to do.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
One get to make sure that you you have to
believe so so firm in yourself and know your self,
work and still like this, nobody can bring you down,
no matter how much they will target You could come,
but you will become targeted. If you go higher enough,
you become a target. That's just the way the world operates,
right And and you must must must have faith in
(14:58):
God no matter what else you do.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Start off every day with the prayer and meditation.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Because you know I did two of them that at
the same time, and I was president for international president
and the president say you are version of it.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
And so even I'm about to walk into the world,
I need your guide you, I say, all were asked
me you could do it them. What would you do better?
What's the different? I said? The first thing I would do,
I would trust God sooner.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I would.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I would have waited until the crisis moment. I would
have trusted God much sooner in my career and not
worry all night about this or that. I was So
I said, to develop your faith in God now. So
baking away if you have to. You know, so we
getting a hard time. You put it out there and said,
well lord you said, you said mersing, so I need
(15:48):
that merchant.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I got stowed up.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So thank you for those for that gym.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm taking that that's personal for me and everybody else
just gets to to glean from what you just shared
with me. I'm so grateful that you took time out
of your time here to sit down and talk with me,
and again, congratulations on your inspired change a war.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I got gngratinations to me too, Thank you, Thank you.
You may not knowble. Here's so many roll midles and
so many.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Young lames, and I'm so honest of your prior is
this podcast and you're on this show with really, so
thank you for inviting.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Thank you aloud. Gone day, Las
Sitting with us at the table.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We have a doctor Glinda Baskin Glover, President at Tennessee
State University and the Tennessee Titans twenty twenty four Inspire
Change Maker Awarding.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Enjoy our conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Take a seat, get comfortable because it's time to stay
a while. I'm your host, Tommy Vincent, and I am
speaking with doctor Glover.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
How are you today, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Today is a good day. I'm so excited to meet
here as a speaker of you is a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Great dad and you are here at the super Bowl
super Bowl week because tell us why.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, every team, every NFL club chooses a person to
receive the Inspire Change Award, and a tiny selected me and.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I'm so I'm so grateful, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And with that came a shift to the super Bowl
once you found I was coming and you invited me.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
In your show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So you're receiving the Inspired Change Award.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Why well, I believe and based on conversations with them,
just because of my commitment to HBC News and to
higher education and things that we've been able to.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Accomplish for the higher education arena and to develop.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Models that will assist HBCUs around our country because HBCUs
need assistance. They need yes, they always need funding. They
need advocacy base, they need advocates to speak up for
them to talk about the needs the BASEBC News as
a capital, the halls of Congo's, the state capitals and
(01:55):
legislatives to let them know that there are basic needs
of HPC News that's just gone overlooked and they're closely
and severely underfunded. And so I took on the battle
and UH and I have been working with the Titans
and they've been so supportive for hpre SIS and the
Tense State University. The biggest surprise they told me you're
(02:20):
you're what it is You're I said, you're a kidding me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Why why was that your personal charge to take on?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, because I have a commitment and a passion for
African American education for students and say, essay, it goes
to the high school. We sit down and talked to
the councils and principals and directors of school education to
let them know that here's the requirements are.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Because if you don't.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Get it to them now when they gets to me
as a college, that was too late and so and
it's so important that the education is viewed us as
what it really represents our community. I always tell people
I can take any student, any student anywhere. I'm making
a scholar. And so our students come to TSU, which
the other HBCUs with sometimes from just all they have
(03:17):
is hope doing a better life, first generation college students.
If I can just get a college degree, I can
help my family. I got a politude. So we're stressed
on the front end doing this because otherwise on the
back end it's prison. It's more our more social workers
for their problems is going to exist. So why not
(03:37):
make education show us as opposed to love our church.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
How did you get in the space where you started
working in education?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Was that always your plan?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Actually it wasn't. My fan was to head up a
major corporation. I want to be seeing of a fortunate
five hundred company, and that's.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
What I set out to zoo.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
But if you live like I do in the spirit world,
you know you listen to your God voice. It just
wasn't my calling. My calling is higher education. My calling
is educated African American students to show them that there
is a way out of this. It is to choose
a career choose a major, decide what you want to do,
(04:26):
let us help you get there. That's just been my
passion for the last thirty years.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So you talked about first generation students, you know, leading
the charge of saying, I'm going to make education one
of the tools that I use to propel myself forward.
What would you say to someone listening who doesn't have
an example of someone who pursued higher education. They're scared
(04:53):
to death, They're concerned about all the things, how can
I pay for it? I don't want to leave, you know,
home and walk away from taking care maybe of someone
and making sure that everything is okay here, or even their.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Younger siblings that they're concerned about. What would you share
with them?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
BRIDO.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oddly enough, that is our population. That's our entire population.
Some students come to us knowing that they have to
get a job while they're there to send money back
to their families. We don't have many classes that we
offer in the afternoons because most of our two thirds
are them working afternoons.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
But if you don't have a.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Class before two o'clock, because after that they're gone to
other places. When not just I'm not saying anything to
law firms and making major decisions. They're working in places
like they'll go to the mall and find a job,
fast food and somewhere so they can get.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Funds and send back home.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And they said, and they're they're committed that what I
what I like so much about the students is that
they want to participate in their families, uplifting not just
for them but for the entire family.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And there they were.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
They're so committed their passion about what they're doing, they want.
They will not let this harve has passed. They will
lot that it needs that much to them. So I
just say to them, starting determined at an early age
what you want to do so and let people help
you get there. You will always have a mentor in
your household. Because our families don't sit around the table
(06:27):
and talk about let me cash in and I see
you to go to go to college or I'm going
to sell some stock in you and I'm wanting to
make and get along.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's not who we are.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We do. We teach them how to go to college.
I had a program when I was international president. I
forgot they offer. Where we want to is how to
go to college, how to apply for story, how to
come back now and get financially because we can always
go online and get the application process. Then it stops
right to come back into how to follow up, how
to check the power of education, how to how to
(06:58):
make sure you have everything in on time when they
should seleect you. For to come back and review almost
like an audit, to refuse called verification, how to get
documents in. So all of that's missing in our population.
So we made a point just helps till us get
into college and then once they get there. You know,
we talked to teachings. You got to be a role model,
(07:18):
and they speak to you world more than his professor.
I'm more than as a president. Sometimes I'm a role model.
I'm a mentor, I'm a sponsor. I'm a social worker.
You know, bring me problems. I broke up with somebody,
a crier.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I said to myself, Oh, how grateful you should be,
But I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So you are successful. You've accomplished a lot of things
to date, because you're not finished. Clearly, you're still working
on leaving your thumb print in the earth. And as
you said, you are led by what God is telling
(08:09):
you to do. What is the accomplishment to date when
you think about it, that you're even blowing away, but
by what was done.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Well, I tell you there's accomplishment and that's what I
did know. So on the top of the complishment, first,
I think the greed is a confidence for any college
president and I know different. It's to see the students
walk across stage ngratuation that is that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Does so much.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Then sometimes I'll tell you, thank you so much. I
want to be just like you. Every things like that,
And really, I mean that's the grades accomplishment. And then
is a specific at Tennessee State. I just think making
tears you a national land.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, to put the.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
In a on a worldwide stage. You know, we're being
discussing wounds that we had never thought about. The White House,
they're calling our names, and so that to me is
such an accomplishment for our university for the vice preends
in the United States to come to our campus. The
first HBCU were the first school and she visited as
(09:24):
a commission speaker, so she got after she got in office.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Was Tennessee State University. So it's a it's a real honors.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So we're proud of girls thing and uncle Winberg came
back to our mississpeaker last year to have the relationship
with our laws are so key to the university.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Those things are very very special.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
What do you believe the greatest opposition is to usually
accomplishing the things that you desire to accomplish for your university.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Indeed, the biggest problem for the biggest But I didn't
learn the Tennessee State as a student because it's not
a test work. It's a level of non acceptance and
you will encounter as an accompassed black woman, that is
not the expectation for you. But I've learned that I
have to learn that through the school of hard knots.
(10:15):
That it doesn't matter about your degrees. Yeah, I know
I'm a lawyer and I know I'm a CPA. I
can walk in the rooms in the courtrooms, I can
walk into businesses and tell you what's wrong. But analoge
like a bot to care, I can analyze and tarry
what's going on. That's you don't have that level of respect. Well,
it's not accepted as much because that's not the expectation
(10:35):
of you. There's a pathway in their minds that you
should you cannot go beyond and if you appear to
be going beyond that, you become a target. The how
you the hire you go up decline, the more of
a target of the come. You know, I talk to
black women, you know, you know, you just sit around
(10:56):
and talk sometimes in the corporate world and higher education
and the presidice and Hebrew and you know probost level,
we're talking about some of the issues and we all
have agreed that you become a target the same reasons
they bring you into a corporation. It's for those same
reasons they become intimidated by you later on. You know,
(11:17):
you know, I should incorporate boards and I and I
see the need for more African Americans to be in leadership.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know, I shouldn't have bought a Pinnacle Bank.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And they make they make such a great effort to
be to have the diverse effort inclusion. It's not just
a statement for them, it's a way of life for
our company to make sure that people really, I mean,
they're really committed to having more African Americans and more
winter Well, I don't see the everwhere I go. Sometimes
it's just it's a comment that's made, but it's not
(11:50):
the fulfillment that needs to be out there. So that
is the biggest challenge I see is that it's not
that level of not accepting that you can't get around
the targe that you become if you're too smart in
their minds, if you can know, how dare you sit
there and talk to me's if you're on my equal
you're on my level. You sitting in front of me
(12:12):
telling me I'm going to something wrong? How dare you
tell me that I owe you two from one billion dollars?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Are you crazy? You know?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
And that's that's what happens when you begin to speak
out about investices and you can't be afraid ever to
call racism racism.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But that's what it is that exists.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And the average racist doesn't even believe they're racist, and
they'll tell you first time, but I'm not a racist,
but you know so, so he said. But that that
make sure I ri raise. So that's your rid of
your the guard for not to be afraid to challenge it.
That cost you a lot, It cost you quite a bit.
(12:54):
But you have to make a choice. That's what the
Me Too movement came about. Stay hushed up all these
years and finding somebody had enough nerve to say I
can't take any more of this. I want to come
forward and talk about this, and so as therefore me too,
who was born. So that's how it has to be.
(13:15):
And when black women leadership have to make the decision,
now here's some There're gonna be some consequences. But I'm
gonna decide do I choose now to I'm not gonna
keep quiet. I be like Moses and something that fiction
with my people.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, man, I'm listening to you talk, and obviously.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I am interviewing you for this conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
We're in conversation together, but I'm getting so drawn into
I know that you have experienced.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
In life that I don't and I value that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Will you share some words of wisdom with women like myself,
who God willing still has the opportunity to utilize the
platforms and positions that we have to leave our mark
in the earth living a purpose filled life.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And that's a wonderful common sadon to have, because that's
what I'm doing in these days. I'm in the fourth
quarter of my career. You know, I've been fift yard
line where I've read the fourth quarter of my career around,
and I'm trying to let other young black professions know.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
That this is what you have to do.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
One get to make sure that you you have to
believe so so firm in yourself and know your self,
work and still like this, nobody can bring you down,
no matter how much they will target You could come,
but you will become targeted. If you go higher enough,
you become a target. That's just the way the world operates,
right And and you must must must have faith in
(14:58):
God no matter what else you do.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Start off every day with the prayer and meditation.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Because you know I did two of them that at
the same time, and I was president for international president
and the president say you are version of it.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
And so even I'm about to walk into the world,
I need your guide you, I say, all were asked
me you could do it them. What would you do better?
What's the different? I said? The first thing I would do,
I would trust God sooner.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I would.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I would have waited until the crisis moment. I would
have trusted God much sooner in my career and not
worry all night about this or that. I was So
I said, to develop your faith in God now. So
baking away if you have to. You know, so we
getting a hard time. You put it out there and said,
well lord you said, you said mersing, so I need
(15:48):
that merchant.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I got stowed up.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So thank you for those for that gym.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm taking that that's personal for me and everybody else
just gets to to glean from what you just shared
with me. I'm so grateful that you took time out
of your time here to sit down and talk with me,
and again, congratulations on your inspired change a war.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I got gngratinations to me too, Thank you, Thank you.
You may not knowble. Here's so many roll midles and
so many.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Young lames, and I'm so honest of your prior is
this podcast and you're on this show with really, so
thank you for inviting.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Thank you aloud. Gone day, Las
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