August 6, 2024 • 41 mins
Coach Gessie Unveils Breakthrough Research To Help End Fibroids Suffering + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's way up with Angela, Hi and you Now my girl,
coach Jesse is here, Doctor Ramoon is back, and today
we have doctor Tiffany here as well. Now July is
Fibruary's awareness month. Yes, and this is a conversation I
feel like we've been having for years.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Now We've got to We can't talk about it enough.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
I'm not going anywhere, but I just I want to
start by talking about medical bias. So I medical bias
is real and health inequities are real. And I'm going
to try to do this without crying. But I want
to start by saying thank you to everybody who reached
out to me about my cousin who is I had
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to drop everything two weeks ago fly to Orlando to
advocate for his health. He's thirty five years old and
fighting for his life against stage four colon cancer. And
it was thirty five years old, no symptoms out of nowhere.
He had a prior history, meaning his dad had pancreatic cancer,
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but that was not the like when he went to
the doctor, he had back pain. So key thing here
is don't ignore pain right no matter what it may be.
So he didn't ignore the pain. He went to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
They didn't rule out what's the worst case scenario it
could be.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
They treated it like it was just, Oh, he hurt
his back pulling weeds in his garden. Right fast forward.
They gave him physical therapy, meds. It wasn't going away.
In April wasn't going away. He went back to the doctor,
got scans and found out he had a mass and
now he had lesions in his bones. So now it's spread.
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And I went down because literally I had to advocate
for his health because they were just pushing him around.
He was admitted to the hospital June fourth and has
not received any chemo whatsoever. And it's crazy because it's
the negligence that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Bothers me the most. Right where.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I won't go into the details of this case. I
believe one day he'll be here to tell his story.
But I said, like I was with him, I've been
living in the hospital the past two weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I flew here. I didn't want to.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I did not want to miss this conversation because I said,
you know what, this could be a megaphone for me
number one, to just just to encourage anyone to not
ignore their warning sign, just any pain, because they may
not even see it as a warning sign, but it
is a sign that your body's telling you something it
needs to be dealt with urgently, any pain. And then
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the other thing is that I need all the prayer
warriors out there to please join me in believing God
for a miracle for my cousin Jonathan, like I need y'all,
I need to rally the troops information in agreement. Please
put his name on your prayer list. Please, if you
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know how to pray, pray.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
With me, because he literally is in need of a miracle.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And stage four stage four.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
And the biggest reason is because as even after he
was diagnosed, he was just pushed around.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
His case was just pushed around.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know, it's not if she if he didn't have you,
how would a person know to say, how come I've
been here this long and haven't had chemo?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I wouldn't know to say that.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Well, he started asking because I said, hey, when are
they starting your treatment? So he was asking questions, but
they would say, oh, that's going to be done outpatient.
When you go to your oncologist, Like I'm in the hospital.
Everything is breaking down now and you keep telling me this,
so you know, and the big the biggest thing is
that you know, black people, brown people are dying all
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over at alarming rates because of preventable diseases, right, things
like colon cancers. Is lifestyle focus. I always say, it
is legal to poisonous in the United States. It's legal
because they poisonous.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
In our food.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
In the talk, we talked about the toxins that are
in the products that we use.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's legal.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
It's literally coming at us all the time. That's why
you know, we focus at the detox. Now we focus
on a preventive lifestyle. We call it the TDA and
detox lifestyle, as well as prevention through tackling. We've talked
about the preventable three tackling chronic inflammation, hormonal imbalance, and
vitamin D deficiency with our prevention kit, because if you
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tackle those three key things, you'll be giving yourself a
fight against you know, the support against some of the
most devastating inflammatory conditions, whether it's high blood pressure, cancer,
you know, things that ravage women's reproductive health issues. So
for us, you know, this doesn't it doesn't change when
it comes to reproductive health, it gets even worse, right,
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and that's why Fibroids Awareness Month is so important to me.
It's so important that we continue to raise the bar
and push the envelope and shed the light on what's
going on in our communities as well as what's optional
options are available. So I wanted to first do a
little check in on doctor.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
P Okay because that was good news.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yes, which is that when I was here last time,
we talked about our partnership to help women with advanced
fiber disease and you know, to have minimally invasive in
terms of the scars, like small horizontal incisions for even
the most advanced cases.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And we had to flashback. We had a whole conversation
about how sometimes doctors will not take the time because
it is something that can be time consuming and.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
To remove all the fibroids.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Right, We've had so many women come because of the line,
the light, the light excuse me that she shined. We've
had so many women come from all around the world.
In fact, one as far as Finland, Okay, who was
told there was no way her womb could be saved.
I was on the phone where she was sobbing because
she was like coaches, if you had not shown me
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that this was possible. They told me all I could
have is hysterectomy, and her uterus was saved small horizontal incision.
And now she's working through our prevention protocols to help
fight against future surgical complications and fight against the return
of fibroids.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So that's some great.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
News, great news. And you know, we work together for
people whether they're looking to prevent the development of fibroids,
help their bodies, because.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Your body can heal itself right.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Fight against fibroids naturally, as well as post op to
help prevent surgical complications like the small bow obstruction, as
well as the return of fibroids. So I know how
y'all love to shine the light on amazing people here,
So today I brought a very special guest with me.
I call her a unicorn Okay, okay, because she is
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a black female reproductive endrochronologist.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Like how many of y'all are there in twelve.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
It's serious, it's serious, and you know she is incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
She's out.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'll let her, you know, introduce herself and talk about it.
But really I wanted to talk about new research, okay
that is actually confirming which we knew right holistic strategies
that are effective against fibroids, and.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Of course they're already in our n fibroids program.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
So I really want to focus specifically today on Okay,
first of all, I want to say that fibroids are
multifactorial people. You're not going to say, oh, fiber is
only caused by one thing. In the past, we've talked
about estrogen dominance a lot, but in our book and Fibroids, yeah,
we've been just expanding on it. And in our book
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and Fibroids we break down like key root causes, which
are stress trauma, vitamin D deficiency, obesity, inflammation, endocrine disruptors, genetics,
and uterine fibroids themselves. Those are the key ones that
we identified and each case can have a combination of
those issues. Somebody's been saying, well I don't have vitamin
D deficiency, Well, your issue may be more hormonal in bounce,
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or it may be genetically triggered as well as endocrine disruptors.
You know, it may be OBC inflammation like, it may
be some of those things, and you got to look
at it's sort of like finding the puzzle about what
are the key things tracing your case right. So our
work is always science backed, but even more now we
have more research that supports what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, what's interesting is that when did FIBRARYS Awareness
Month even start? Because I didn't know this was so two.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
It's funny because when my story came out, the woman
who founded the White Dress Project, who actually recognized Tanika
grave Alber and we shout you out, Sis who founded
the White Dress Project, she actually launched this whole campaign
to establish Fiveboids Awareness Month in twenty fourteen. She started
okay and I worked with her, got we work together
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to get established in New York.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I love the amount of exposure because I feel like
fibrary's you know, even until I met you guys, Coach
jesse And and doctor Armoon, Like, I didn't know anything about
fibroids until we started having these conversations, and now I
feel like it's something that people are a lot more
comfortable discussing.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's because we are. We have the platform and the
celebration to bring people out of shame, to bring them
out of silos, silos and silence. Congresswoman Evett Clark, who
is also one of the sponsors of the Uterine Fiboids Education,
Research and Education Act, honoring Stephanie Tubbs. Right, she talks
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about how fibroids causes us to be in to suffer
in silence and in silos, and so when we now
put front and center, we're wearing our white dresses and
we say, yes, you can wear white because you know what,
You're not alone and there are.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Options out there for you.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
So when we do that now, it's like when when
Essence published my story, it went viral because women from
all around the world were like, Oh my god, that's
me right, Oh my god, I'm not alien.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
How can it not be you?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
When eighty percent of black women will have a fiber
by the age of fifty, So it's so many people
that you know, even.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Something in silence, just not talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Eight out of ten people.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That's doctor Tiffany, what got you doing this work?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So I'm a fertility specialist by trade, and I just
love being able to help women, especially women who have
been trying to achieve everything in their life, their careers,
their education, getting it and then they come upon building
a family and they struggle. And so my life's work
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and what fulfills me is helping build those families, helping
those women.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Achieve that part of their that part of their life.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, that's phenomenal. And so but she's integrative in mindset.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, she makes her unicorn because some doctors are like, oh,
it's only this, it's only She's like, no, it's everything.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
And so how fibroids come into play with that is,
you know, the womb is where the baby, where the
embryos grow. And because so many women of all facets
are affected by fibroids, it really does play a major
role in reproductive health and fertility.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
And you know what the new research is showing us
is that anti inflammatory protocols and vitamin D therapy can
actually help women empower them in ending their fibroid suffering.
And I really wanted doctor Tiffany to talk about the researches.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, because this is stuff I feel like we've discussed
to say.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But research is finally like, you know, catching up.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I was discussing this with certific I said, it's almost
like they took our kit on all protocols and said,
all right, let's see if this actually works.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But not given us the credit for it.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
But then they've seen the results of it, and they've
put it in their papers, so it's almost like the
man has now signed, Now it's valid.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I think that's kind of how all research comes into play,
is you have something that's observational and then you want
to put it to the test because you want to
make sure that it's not a placebo effect, that it's
not just a you know, uh, something by circumstance, and
that it really can stand the truck.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Test of I love this.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
It's a practice, it's a process, but you do need
to play homage to where it comes from, you know,
and to understand that there are people who have looked
at things from a practical view us and we were
talking about this downstairs, where if you think about who
fibroids really affect, and I know that studies done long
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ago may have looked at things like how many children
somebody had as a risk factor, their weight as a
risk factor, but I can tell you that I never
learned about vitamin D any place, and you know, in fertility.
And so if you look at the makeup of black
women and all of our shades, and you understand how
vitamin D is made, then it does make sense to
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look at that as a potential risk factor. Absolutely, and
even without a study to say, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know, my vitamin D level is low, and how
do I fix that? And what is it? What ramifications
is having other aspects of my life?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Where does vitamin D come from?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
So vitamin D it made vitamin D. We make it
starting in our skin and our kidneys and our liver.
But the pro hormone starts from the skin. And the
reason why many women of color are vitamin D deficient
is because our melanin blocks it. And I'm sure there
are reasons why we are made with melanin to protect
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us in other ways, but it can also potentially harm
us in other ways as well. And so then you
need to understand from.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Your diet.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And from supplementations, and you know, I'll let you speak
a little bit about that. But in what they're looking
at in some of these studies, and one of the
trials I was looking at from doctor al Hindi, the
Friends trial, is looking at fibroids and fertility and vitamin
I'm sorry, not even vitamin D. He's looking at a
green tea extract another that's part of an anti inflammatory protocol, right, And.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So when we look at tumors.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Tumors are a sign of something is going wrong, a
sign of imbalance, because our bodies are designed to fight things.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
We fight our we fight infections.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Right and if our bodies can't fight infections, and that
can be an autoimmune issue or we're just overloaded. And
the same thing with any tumors or cancers and fibroids
are muscle tumors that if they're running rampant, may have
been a sign of inflammation. That's something that is just
now kind of coming to the forefront.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Right, and it's it makes sense. It's been making sense
to us, right, like oxidata stress.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Absolutely because you know, one of the things, like you said,
we was pushing estrad in dominance hormone imbalancement. But then,
like the doctor Tiffany just said, when you have a
even though it's benign and it's a muscle tumor, that's
an indication that when your body become tumorous, your immune
system has been compromised. Because rightfully, so your immune system
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is supposed to get rid of that. So if that
is started to build up, it's an indication of immune
systems either over stimulated or underworked. Okay, And that's something
that we had to look at when we was readdressing,
looking at the fibrates when we put this kid together,
we had to look at Okay, it can't just be
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estra dominance. It can't just be in the cream disruptors,
because there's so many other factors that when you've got
tumors in the body, what this can be leading to.
And it's almost like, like I said, they took the kid, that's.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What mass right, when immunes is the mass supplement.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
You know what's amazing is that when they went through
the research and they started talking about supplementation, mass is
one of our top sellers. They talked about turmeric and
I was like, wow, becauseic is and as a very
fast anti right. But one of the things that stood
at Angels when they talk about licorice root. That's when
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my eyebrows raised, because we use that as one of
our prime ingredients in fibrol and licorice root has also
anti inflammatory properties. But there's also been studies on liquorice
root that it inhibits the proliferation of unine fibrians. A
lot of people wanted to stay away from it because
of its agenic properties, but we knew that it was
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phytal estrogen that it was producing, so it wouldn't stimulate.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Or stimulating the fibroids.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
The fibroids or estragen levels. And we've been having so
much success with that. So when I'm reading these studies
and I was like, they literally.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Took the yeah, you know what, it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Data.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
When I ask you about that as a as a doctor,
how do you embrace holistic methods because doctors a lot
of times aren't going to make those types of recommendations.
Like you said, there have to be studies that are
done so that you can make sure that you're giving
the proper information.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
But when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Saying, well, you know, try this, because a lot of
times the doctor isn't going to say, well, let's do
a holistic method.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I think that physicians and all my colleagues out there
will testify to this, is that we have a responsibility
to our patients, uh to give data. But I always say,
the absence of evidence is not evidence, right, and so
you know, we have to look at the safety of
things and what we know about things, and you know,
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like vitamin D is not completely benign, right, And so
I don't just pump my patients up with vitamin D
and then and then they have other problems with their
calcium levels, and so you just you have to be
it's out of balance, because everything is things to think
about balance. But I do think that building collaborations because
it's very important because there are limits to what I know,
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and then you have to build a team about people
who are also doing further studies and investigations and things
that I don't know, but to qualify that to my
patients to say there are things we do not know.
And I think that honesty goes a long way. So
I always say that you can try something and we can.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
See how it works for you.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Because not every treatment, whether it's from Western medicine down
the gamut, will work for every person. And so it's
really about that person's journey and kind.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Of and honoring what they want, honoring what they want
and what they need, what their symptoms are, and helping
them to navigate that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But I have to, you know, my medicine background.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
I have to, like I to say wholeheartedly, I have
to have data I have like ten years.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And what I like is when these things can coexist, right,
because what's also into is sometimes a holistic approach doesn't
work for everyone, right, and it is necessary.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Remember we always say it's not either or right.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like you even said, get why don't you getting chemo?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And that is not you know, you do coexist well.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Truly holistic means that you are doing everything that is
necessary and beneficial.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It may that means fueling and blending traditional.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
And holistic practices as they actually can go exist coexist together.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Right. I think that's really important.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Some people that that polarization is very damaging that whole idea.
And that's why again I called doctor Tiffany a unicorn
because she's like, first of all, you know, a lack
of lack of evidence doesn't mean it's not possible.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
That's like that mindset.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Starts it off right that hey, that there's an open door,
so that now that research is backing it up more
like that's okay. Do you want to talk about the
whole oxidata, stress and free radicals?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, So just so people understand one, I think we
need to break it down first what a fibroid is, right,
And so we talked about fibroids are smooth muscle tumors
and they start off as smaller than a grain like
a mustard seed, right, and one cell that proliferates, But
why does it do that? So muscle cells are normal
to the uterus, but these tumors are not. And it's
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because a cell can become damaged and that damage usually
starts in the DNA where it doesn't it doesn't act normally. Right,
Everything has a life cycle. But if something evades its
own life cycle and continues to just grow and multiply,
it becomes a tumor. And we believe that, and we've
always believed that free radicals do play a role in that.
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And free radicals are not completely bad. They play a
role in many things in our bodies are so free
radicals charged charged particles that can, you know, break down
DNA and cause cascades in other places in our body.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
But they develop in everything from when you digest food,
when you breathe air, to when you have exposure to
toxins right to chronic stress. So your body forms amone
a regular Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
And they're necessary like just for instance, like a menstrual cycle,
Like you wouldn't get a menstrual cycle without these reactive
oxidative species.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Like the.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Bodies.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
But if you have an imbalance.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
So we have free radicals or reactive oxidate oxidative species,
and then we also have antioxidants.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
At blueberries and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And I tell my.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Patients about blueberries though berberries, but however, Yeah, but so
it's that imbalance that can lead to these cells becoming
damaged and then leading to that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And the antioxists help to neutralize the free radicals when
they're radical, when they're kind of out of control, so.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
They let berries they have anti accidents. So that's the balance.
Let me ask you something.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So one of the effects of having fibris is that
people can be bloated, right, you can see that, and
you see a lot of people taking these weight loss drugs.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
How does that affect fibers.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Has there been anything done to see that because sometimes
people are like, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Bloated on this and that let me just actually fibroids.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, and let me it's not going to help the fibroids,
that's for certain.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, Yeah, you want to address the fibroids. What do
they have any side effects? Again, that's hard to tell.
But that's not addressing the fibris because they need to
go and get like I'm all right, done to actually
know the location of the fibroids, how many they have,
and I think we should shed a greater light. That
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I'm excited about when I read the research because now
we go to research, is that we are in a
position now to say to women, look, we can make
you prevent We actually got data to support you do this.
This can prevent you getting urine fibers. If you do
have urine fibers and you want to batter them, if
you're not in the advanced stage, we can also help
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you and we have shown to eliminate and dissolve. However,
if you're in the advanced disease stay of urine fibers,
we have.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But you know we love you doctor, we have.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
P and then secondly, we also have the prevention that
even after you've had surgery.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The return because it can't get at.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Three different stages or three different cases. We've got you covered.
No one can do that that hasn't been done before,
and now we've got research to back.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You got to talk about the inflammatory protocol and then
how how it trickles into everything.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Can I just answer the question about the weight loss,
and because we don't, we definitely want to be clear
on different risk factors that we also know contribute to
things like fibroids, so obesity is one of them. And
so even though they weren't looking at it that way before,
they've always looked at how our weight plays a role.
And we know that our adiposts are fat cells, they're
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they're indocrine, are there, they're organs that do produce hormones
in the.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Organ that they produce very goods.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
And we know that estrogen plays a role. And so
these weight loss medications just like they didn't study them
to say that they were going to improve fertility, but
they absolutely have improved fertility and patients that have polycystic
ovary syndrome because as a you know, kind of a
downstream effect because the weight loss fibers may also be
something that we see.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Evol very good when we look but I think symptoms.
What we were saying is.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
The fibers that are present, they're they're not like as
you're losing weight though, fiber is not necessarily going away, but.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It could be. What you just said is very good.
It can stop feeding.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It because contribute that negative feedback, and the obese.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Absolutely, yeah, vibration, you didn't know you because now you
have a flat.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah, just a piggyback on that, because one of the
things that play along side with obesity is your insulin,
the hormone insulin. So we want to be insulin sensitive,
but then if you're insulin resistance. Insulin now is a
hormone that just transports glue cose, but it also is
it stores fat. It holds fat, which then is going
to elevate more your estrading levels up because fat feeds estrade.
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So that way what doctor Tiffany was saying, when you
put all the dots together, you can see how now
that turns someone from insulin resistance to insulin sensitive. Can
also improve the hormonal balance.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
And you know have a definitely it's not a treatment
for fibers, but by treating that issue, you can improve
your circumstance around fibers.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Very good potential potential that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Have now that now that we have evidence, right, so
how does that change how you guys with these you know,
with the detax now and with the n fabrics education
even how you can now market the product too, because
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it does change things like I know having in the
juice buyers certain things we know, you know, it helps
with this, but you can't say it necessarily now, can
this be marketed differently with evidence?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, I mean because the science, the science around it
is it's more robust now. So because the science is
more robust, it's like, Okay, here you are. There was
a reason behind the anti inflammatory nutrition, the supplements and
the stress the fasting.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Oh yes, break that down.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
That's really important because these things are scientifically proven to
help specifically with fireboards. Now they're not just great health benefits.
Now the research actually specifically tached and connect them to
uterine fibroids reduction, and.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's it's important to know that the research is.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Ongoing and evolving, and so, you know, especially when you're
looking at a marketing aspect as far as like a
juice bar, you know, it is it is important to
say where we are and not overstate where we are.
And I do think that there's a lot of great evidence.
I don't think that any of us have concrete evidence
just yet of these things are going to be the
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end all be all, but they definitely are taking a
great right start. And I think something that was touched
upon earlier, when you know, like if you do surgery right,
it's like I do surgery, I remove fibroids all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But then what do we do next? Right?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
And so then because if I do fibroid surgery and
you're twenty eight, I'm gonna see you back at thirty
two by the same surgery. And so it's you know,
it's very exciting, and I think that, you know, as
the as the research goes on and we have more
concrete data, I hope it gets there and I think it.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Will absolutely, But that's a tiffany when it comes to
like you said, if you're twenty eight and we remove fibrids,
I'll see you again likely at thirty two. What is
that rate of which people patients do have to come
back about?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, fifty sixty percent.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
That's why we also try to delay having to start
these you know, anybody who's had to go through a
fibeth surgery knows, like you know, I try to delay
until somebody is ready to have children or if their
symptoms are so bad we have to. But we definitely
don't want to cut on people earlier earlier.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
But for us, it's like the more and the sooner
you become educated about what you can do in terms
of your own protocols like the lifestyle changes, whether it's
the nutrition plant. That's why the kit comes with a
nutrition plan, the supplements practices, you know, education so that
you know, okay, wait a minute, what's in my power
to do?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Right?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Because now if I know what's in my power to do,
I want to catch it before it becomes fibrids, right,
meaning okay, let me look at this vitamin D deficiency
because oh well, let me look at my you know,
how how am I are my periods?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's a warning sign? Right? Am I bloating when I eat?
How about that?
Speaker 5 (29:04):
That's a warning sign that my body is having an
inflammatory response?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
And that's really important for us to now to say, Okay,
I can help my body prevent them, and if I
am dealing with them postop, I definitely never I did
a post this week three things to never do after
fib word surgery. Never go back to a toxic lifestyle
that you had before.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Never yeah, never, hear, never go never do that?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
So it's really important because now that we have more
evidence around the impact of these things, it helps people
to say, Okay, you know what, all right, I don't
want to be back on that operating table and then
facing possible surgical complications we've talked about at length, you know,
like what ten days after my second mind ectomy, I'm
being open stem discerned again because of the small valbstruction
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that developed around where the scar tissue that was your
body needs to heal from the surgery.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Are tissue wrapped around.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
My small tests and where they had to cut out
almost two feet and that was a life.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Threatening thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So I think that's really important, something that's really important
that we haven't talked about. And I want to go
into just vitamin D therapy specifically because we've talked about it,
but I wanted to touch on the points that studies
have shown specifically that it's the number one hormone that
your body uses to fight fibroids, but that specifically it
helps with the vitamin D hormone is created through absorption
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of the skin, which doctor Tiffany talked about, right, and
that is that the pandemic for people of color around
it is because our melanin blocks the absorption of the sun.
It actually reduces our body's ability to produce the D
three hormone. So that risk is an inverse risk where
the more vitamin D deficient you are. The studies have
shown that the more occurrences of fibroids, the more numbers
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of fibroids, right, the more severe.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
In terms of symptoms. Right, And here in glows.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Actually around eighty two percent of black women are actually
vitamin D deficient because of that. And the biggest thing
is because we just don't realize, oh, I need to
be supplemented. Right, They're like, oh, I go outside, but
you don't go outside for an hour if you're my complexion,
because you need it to forty minutes if you're my complexion.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Don't get you gone, right.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
And one study found that higher levels of vitamin D
block uterine fibroids growth all right. Another one found that
it plays a significant role in shrinking fibroids by inhibiting
the transforming growth factor beta, which is the most relevant
white blood cell that plays a role in increasing and
changing uterine tissue uterine muscle tissue. So this is great, right,
(31:44):
But all of these studies are actually linked in our
n fibroids books. So people want to go into it
them and read them.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
That because you said, see that might go over thehead,
but their little technicality is how complex vitamin D is
and what it does that white blood cell. So you
have two forms of cyto kings. You have anti inflammatory,
it is a white flammatory. These are white blood cells.
It suppresses the inflammatory side or kings. So you know,
during COVID nineteen, everybody that had low vitamin D or
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was deficient, they had severe experiences cyto kingstones. People who
had normal or high levels of vitamin D they didn't
have so much severe. And that's what it does. And
it's actually in that study that Jesse was reading from
women that had vitamin D treatment, they saw seventeen to
twenty three percent shrinkage.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
D is very complex. We have vitamin D receptors all
over the body, and like Dr Tiffany said, it's an
ongoing research, ongoing studies.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
So a couple of very important things about vitamin D.
Number one is don't just start taking vitamin D without
getting your levels checked.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Now just say that. We also need to understand how
much it costs to check vitamin D.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, and that's labs. Don't just your labs.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Wn't just thirteen hundred dollars way through insurance so.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
My insurance never charges me. That's good.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
So make sure make sure your insurance covers very important
Black women glattificy. Make sure your insurance covers vitamin D testing.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I think it's important because when we want to like
put something into the main, yeah, they got to know,
get accessible.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
So I had my own patients come back with crazy
bills and so it's just it's.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
So insurance doesn't necessarily cover this.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well, mine does, but not everybody.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
When you're choosing your insurance, that's a very important part
because people don't always think, like, wait a minute, what
is gonna like that specific test. It's like some people MRI,
you're not going to get that covered until you've gone
through an ultrasound and then you've gone through this, you know,
like at there's certain levels to check that's important to know.
So while we're talking about vitamin D, don't you know
if you number one are of melanated skin and you
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don't take vitamin D, you need to take vitamin You
need to start there, okay. And so normal levels, according
to the encrin society are between sufficiency is starting at thirty.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
So most people are like, I know, I'm vitamin deficient.
I'm vitamin D deficient. I'm at nine, right, and that
is deeply deficient.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
That's bad.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
But when they go to the doctor, they're typically told
their levels are normal when they hit around thirty. Okay,
So number one, that's not enough because that's the low normal, right,
that's like giving you just I could just breathe. Now,
your body does not have enough to fight tumors and
all the things that you need if you are at
the low levels of vitamin D. So ask your doctor
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what are the high normals of vitamin D that I.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Should be at, and what if what does too much
vitamin D do?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
So that was gonna say, typically it should be around
between fifty, is like around the high normal. Mine is
between like fifty and seventy because I've noticed when I
feel like everything's working.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But if it's like too high, it can cause what.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Well, it definitely can lead to like kidney stones and
kidney stone calcium, right, And so that's what you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Really but it's very hard.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Clear it is too okay. So the other thing that
I would definitely say is I have had clients tell
me that they they aren't able to get their D.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Three levels up and here's the reason why. Number one,
they don't realize the D three has to be it
is absorbed with healthy fats.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
They take it with water, whatever, and they don't realize that.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
If you're just taking D three and you're not taking
it with like avocado or fish, soil.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Or nuts or something coconuts, your body is having trouble
absorbing it properly. Now they can just take the deep
talks now because we already have it fats.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
They could put it in a smoothie with an avocado yeat.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
But some people one of the biggest things I hear
is I always forget to take my vitamins.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I always forget.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I definitely forget my vitamins.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
See and and so like we put it right there
on the tip of your little corner as you leave
in take them.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Boom boom done.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
You're done, right, So that's number one. Number two is
that taking it? Are you taking enough? A lot of
people will say, well, I'm taking like one thousand, two
thousand a day, and guess what, that's.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Only to maintain your when it's normal.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
When it's normal, all right, So if you're not taking
like at least for me, it's like five to ten
thousand in a day if I'm trying to increase it, right,
But talk to your doctor about it to find out
what should I be taking daily in terms of I
use in order to increase it, because if if you
you know, some.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
People give up, they're like, oh, I can't get it.
I'm like, I was talking to my cousin another cousin,
I said, how much will you take it? She says,
I'm taking like one thousand and two.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I said, that's not gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
That's the problem.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
So please number one, find out what your number is.
Number two, make sure you're taking it with a healthy
fat or get the detox now that has the healthy
fats in it. And number three, make sure you're taking
enough to get your numbers high. And you want to
know that you're at the high normal levels, okay, so
that your body can actually fight the fire words can fight.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You know, whether it's in immune issues. Guess what.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Studies have shown that menopause symptoms mimic vitamin D deff like, actually,
if you have vitamin D deficient, you can be having
menopause symptoms or they can make your menopause symptoms worse
if your levels are too low. So a lot of
women you're actually not going into menopause, you're vitamin.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
D deficient, or I think I have menopause, or parents everybody,
everybody said, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
So this is why we're extremely excited about our n
five words program.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Okay, how can people get more information?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Yes, well, we're actually doing a thirty day special where
I'm going to be with doctor a Moon and special guests.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Well, we're actually going to be offering free live weekly
sessions in the group sessions. Free live. Yes, it starts August.
It starts August.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
You don't have to budget for it.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, we'll be meeting weekly on Zoom to take you
through actually walking through what green tea should you be taking?
What's our program? What are we drinking and eating this week?
Are we fasting the second week? You know, all of
the so that we're doing it together because community accountability
and support actually helps us win. Right, So for thirty
days only, we'll be doing this and they'll it's it's
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something that they're getting at no extra costs with the
purchase of their.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Kit, and we have a way up code.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Okay, of course we exclusively.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know with way up the code, way up one word,
they can save forty Never have we done that our
way up.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
With the way up code, because look, they'll get meal plans,
they'll get recipes, they'll they'll get the support of our
virtual group exercise techniques. And you know, because we hear
people they're saying, I want freedom from bloody sheets. We
want from heavy cycles. We want freedom from pages painful sex.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
We want periods see.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Them from a debilitating cramps that make me call out
from work. We want freedom from infertility. We want freedom
from miscarriages. We want freedom from debilitating fatigue. We want
freedom from the shame of looking pregnant.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That again, we.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Want freedom from the shame of looking pregnant. Okay, we
just want freedom from vibroids. And we're here to say.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
We got you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
And that's Kamala Harris's freedom song that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You didn't know.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's what doctor, that's what, Yes, President Kamala Harris was
actually talking about. We want freedom from vibriids.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
She cares about that too. And Dot Tippy, how can
people find you?
Speaker 6 (39:48):
So I practice at can See Fertility Center in Dallas, Texas. Okay,
So find me if you have questions on Instagram and
follow her.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I v F M D.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
I'm happy to answer questions, but I cannot give medical advice. Okay, Instagram,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Concept.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
She's not playing. She's going as she should nonfessional. We're
not playing again.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
The private conversation with doctor Tiffany downstairs. And I'm telling
you now, all my sisters or the sisters.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
We need to get She's one of our physicians, stands.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
The struggle of a black woman and I'm being a
black woman and she's from l A. Okay, right, And
on that note, we have to say, don't you know
they're not like.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Us, Like so you look like Drake.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You gotta rely.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
That's fine. I'm the black drink.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'm really big Drake.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Everyone, everybody just get along, all right?
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Calling you doctor Tiffany, I got more question.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
She's definitely on point.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And thank you, guys, both for always coming to the
talks now dot com.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yep, thetas now dot com sign up, y'all, let's do that.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Say thank you. And besides that job you just gave me,
but apart from that, over the years, you have been really,
really supportive. You always had a platform for us, and
we truly appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I always say, it's really important work that's being done here.
And I know you've helped so many people who have
personally seen look sit and I did the Detax together
as accountability partners. Yeah, exactly, And we're gonna do it again, right, Yeah,
we're gonna do it again all right.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Well, was way up, way up,
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's way up with Angela, Hi and you Now my girl,
coach Jesse is here, Doctor Ramoon is back, and today
we have doctor Tiffany here as well. Now July is
Fibruary's awareness month. Yes, and this is a conversation I
feel like we've been having for years.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Now We've got to We can't talk about it enough.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
I'm not going anywhere, but I just I want to
start by talking about medical bias. So I medical bias
is real and health inequities are real. And I'm going
to try to do this without crying. But I want
to start by saying thank you to everybody who reached
out to me about my cousin who is I had
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to drop everything two weeks ago fly to Orlando to
advocate for his health. He's thirty five years old and
fighting for his life against stage four colon cancer. And
it was thirty five years old, no symptoms out of nowhere.
He had a prior history, meaning his dad had pancreatic cancer,
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but that was not the like when he went to
the doctor, he had back pain. So key thing here
is don't ignore pain right no matter what it may be.
So he didn't ignore the pain. He went to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
They didn't rule out what's the worst case scenario it
could be.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
They treated it like it was just, Oh, he hurt
his back pulling weeds in his garden. Right fast forward.
They gave him physical therapy, meds. It wasn't going away.
In April wasn't going away. He went back to the doctor,
got scans and found out he had a mass and
now he had lesions in his bones. So now it's spread.
(01:44):
And I went down because literally I had to advocate
for his health because they were just pushing him around.
He was admitted to the hospital June fourth and has
not received any chemo whatsoever. And it's crazy because it's
the negligence that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Bothers me the most. Right where.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I won't go into the details of this case. I
believe one day he'll be here to tell his story.
But I said, like I was with him, I've been
living in the hospital the past two weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I flew here. I didn't want to.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I did not want to miss this conversation because I said,
you know what, this could be a megaphone for me
number one, to just just to encourage anyone to not
ignore their warning sign, just any pain, because they may
not even see it as a warning sign, but it
is a sign that your body's telling you something it
needs to be dealt with urgently, any pain. And then
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the other thing is that I need all the prayer
warriors out there to please join me in believing God
for a miracle for my cousin Jonathan, like I need y'all,
I need to rally the troops information in agreement. Please
put his name on your prayer list. Please, if you
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know how to pray, pray.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
With me, because he literally is in need of a miracle.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And stage four stage four.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
And the biggest reason is because as even after he
was diagnosed, he was just pushed around.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
His case was just pushed around.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know, it's not if she if he didn't have you,
how would a person know to say, how come I've
been here this long and haven't had chemo?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I wouldn't know to say that.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Well, he started asking because I said, hey, when are
they starting your treatment? So he was asking questions, but
they would say, oh, that's going to be done outpatient.
When you go to your oncologist, Like I'm in the hospital.
Everything is breaking down now and you keep telling me this,
so you know, and the big the biggest thing is
that you know, black people, brown people are dying all
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over at alarming rates because of preventable diseases, right, things
like colon cancers. Is lifestyle focus. I always say, it
is legal to poisonous in the United States. It's legal
because they poisonous.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
In our food.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
In the talk, we talked about the toxins that are
in the products that we use.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's legal.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
It's literally coming at us all the time. That's why
you know, we focus at the detox. Now we focus
on a preventive lifestyle. We call it the TDA and
detox lifestyle, as well as prevention through tackling. We've talked
about the preventable three tackling chronic inflammation, hormonal imbalance, and
vitamin D deficiency with our prevention kit, because if you
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tackle those three key things, you'll be giving yourself a
fight against you know, the support against some of the
most devastating inflammatory conditions, whether it's high blood pressure, cancer,
you know, things that ravage women's reproductive health issues. So
for us, you know, this doesn't it doesn't change when
it comes to reproductive health, it gets even worse, right,
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and that's why Fibroids Awareness Month is so important to me.
It's so important that we continue to raise the bar
and push the envelope and shed the light on what's
going on in our communities as well as what's optional
options are available. So I wanted to first do a
little check in on doctor.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
P Okay because that was good news.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yes, which is that when I was here last time,
we talked about our partnership to help women with advanced
fiber disease and you know, to have minimally invasive in
terms of the scars, like small horizontal incisions for even
the most advanced cases.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And we had to flashback. We had a whole conversation
about how sometimes doctors will not take the time because
it is something that can be time consuming and.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
To remove all the fibroids.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Right, We've had so many women come because of the line,
the light, the light excuse me that she shined. We've
had so many women come from all around the world.
In fact, one as far as Finland, Okay, who was
told there was no way her womb could be saved.
I was on the phone where she was sobbing because
she was like coaches, if you had not shown me
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that this was possible. They told me all I could
have is hysterectomy, and her uterus was saved small horizontal incision.
And now she's working through our prevention protocols to help
fight against future surgical complications and fight against the return
of fibroids.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So that's some great.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
News, great news. And you know, we work together for
people whether they're looking to prevent the development of fibroids,
help their bodies, because.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Your body can heal itself right.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Fight against fibroids naturally, as well as post op to
help prevent surgical complications like the small bow obstruction, as
well as the return of fibroids. So I know how
y'all love to shine the light on amazing people here,
So today I brought a very special guest with me.
I call her a unicorn Okay, okay, because she is
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a black female reproductive endrochronologist.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Like how many of y'all are there in twelve.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
It's serious, it's serious, and you know she is incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
She's out.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'll let her, you know, introduce herself and talk about it.
But really I wanted to talk about new research, okay
that is actually confirming which we knew right holistic strategies
that are effective against fibroids, and.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Of course they're already in our n fibroids program.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
So I really want to focus specifically today on Okay,
first of all, I want to say that fibroids are
multifactorial people. You're not going to say, oh, fiber is
only caused by one thing. In the past, we've talked
about estrogen dominance a lot, but in our book and Fibroids, yeah,
we've been just expanding on it. And in our book
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and Fibroids we break down like key root causes, which
are stress trauma, vitamin D deficiency, obesity, inflammation, endocrine disruptors, genetics,
and uterine fibroids themselves. Those are the key ones that
we identified and each case can have a combination of
those issues. Somebody's been saying, well I don't have vitamin
D deficiency, Well, your issue may be more hormonal in bounce,
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or it may be genetically triggered as well as endocrine disruptors.
You know, it may be OBC inflammation like, it may
be some of those things, and you got to look
at it's sort of like finding the puzzle about what
are the key things tracing your case right. So our
work is always science backed, but even more now we
have more research that supports what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, what's interesting is that when did FIBRARYS Awareness
Month even start? Because I didn't know this was so two.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
It's funny because when my story came out, the woman
who founded the White Dress Project, who actually recognized Tanika
grave Alber and we shout you out, Sis who founded
the White Dress Project, she actually launched this whole campaign
to establish Fiveboids Awareness Month in twenty fourteen. She started
okay and I worked with her, got we work together
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to get established in New York.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I love the amount of exposure because I feel like
fibrary's you know, even until I met you guys, Coach
jesse And and doctor Armoon, Like, I didn't know anything about
fibroids until we started having these conversations, and now I
feel like it's something that people are a lot more
comfortable discussing.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's because we are. We have the platform and the
celebration to bring people out of shame, to bring them
out of silos, silos and silence. Congresswoman Evett Clark, who
is also one of the sponsors of the Uterine Fiboids Education,
Research and Education Act, honoring Stephanie Tubbs. Right, she talks
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about how fibroids causes us to be in to suffer
in silence and in silos, and so when we now
put front and center, we're wearing our white dresses and
we say, yes, you can wear white because you know what,
You're not alone and there are.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Options out there for you.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
So when we do that now, it's like when when
Essence published my story, it went viral because women from
all around the world were like, Oh my god, that's
me right, Oh my god, I'm not alien.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
How can it not be you?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
When eighty percent of black women will have a fiber
by the age of fifty, So it's so many people
that you know, even.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Something in silence, just not talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Eight out of ten people.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That's doctor Tiffany, what got you doing this work?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So I'm a fertility specialist by trade, and I just
love being able to help women, especially women who have
been trying to achieve everything in their life, their careers,
their education, getting it and then they come upon building
a family and they struggle. And so my life's work
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and what fulfills me is helping build those families, helping
those women.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Achieve that part of their that part of their life.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, that's phenomenal. And so but she's integrative in mindset.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, she makes her unicorn because some doctors are like, oh,
it's only this, it's only She's like, no, it's everything.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
And so how fibroids come into play with that is,
you know, the womb is where the baby, where the
embryos grow. And because so many women of all facets
are affected by fibroids, it really does play a major
role in reproductive health and fertility.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
And you know what the new research is showing us
is that anti inflammatory protocols and vitamin D therapy can
actually help women empower them in ending their fibroid suffering.
And I really wanted doctor Tiffany to talk about the researches.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, because this is stuff I feel like we've discussed
to say.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But research is finally like, you know, catching up.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I was discussing this with certific I said, it's almost
like they took our kit on all protocols and said,
all right, let's see if this actually works.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But not given us the credit for it.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
But then they've seen the results of it, and they've
put it in their papers, so it's almost like the
man has now signed, Now it's valid.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I think that's kind of how all research comes into play,
is you have something that's observational and then you want
to put it to the test because you want to
make sure that it's not a placebo effect, that it's
not just a you know, uh, something by circumstance, and
that it really can stand the truck.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Test of I love this.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
It's a practice, it's a process, but you do need
to play homage to where it comes from, you know,
and to understand that there are people who have looked
at things from a practical view us and we were
talking about this downstairs, where if you think about who
fibroids really affect, and I know that studies done long
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ago may have looked at things like how many children
somebody had as a risk factor, their weight as a
risk factor, but I can tell you that I never
learned about vitamin D any place, and you know, in fertility.
And so if you look at the makeup of black
women and all of our shades, and you understand how
vitamin D is made, then it does make sense to
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look at that as a potential risk factor. Absolutely, and
even without a study to say, hey.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You know, my vitamin D level is low, and how
do I fix that? And what is it? What ramifications
is having other aspects of my life?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Where does vitamin D come from?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
So vitamin D it made vitamin D. We make it
starting in our skin and our kidneys and our liver.
But the pro hormone starts from the skin. And the
reason why many women of color are vitamin D deficient
is because our melanin blocks it. And I'm sure there
are reasons why we are made with melanin to protect
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us in other ways, but it can also potentially harm
us in other ways as well. And so then you
need to understand from.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Your diet.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And from supplementations, and you know, I'll let you speak
a little bit about that. But in what they're looking
at in some of these studies, and one of the
trials I was looking at from doctor al Hindi, the
Friends trial, is looking at fibroids and fertility and vitamin
I'm sorry, not even vitamin D. He's looking at a
green tea extract another that's part of an anti inflammatory protocol, right, And.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So when we look at tumors.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Tumors are a sign of something is going wrong, a
sign of imbalance, because our bodies are designed to fight things.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
We fight our we fight infections.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Right and if our bodies can't fight infections, and that
can be an autoimmune issue or we're just overloaded. And
the same thing with any tumors or cancers and fibroids
are muscle tumors that if they're running rampant, may have
been a sign of inflammation. That's something that is just
now kind of coming to the forefront.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Right, and it's it makes sense. It's been making sense
to us, right, like oxidata stress.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Absolutely because you know, one of the things, like you said,
we was pushing estrad in dominance hormone imbalancement. But then,
like the doctor Tiffany just said, when you have a
even though it's benign and it's a muscle tumor, that's
an indication that when your body become tumorous, your immune
system has been compromised. Because rightfully, so your immune system
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is supposed to get rid of that. So if that
is started to build up, it's an indication of immune
systems either over stimulated or underworked. Okay, And that's something
that we had to look at when we was readdressing,
looking at the fibrates when we put this kid together,
we had to look at Okay, it can't just be
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estra dominance. It can't just be in the cream disruptors,
because there's so many other factors that when you've got
tumors in the body, what this can be leading to.
And it's almost like, like I said, they took the kid, that's.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What mass right, when immunes is the mass supplement.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
You know what's amazing is that when they went through
the research and they started talking about supplementation, mass is
one of our top sellers. They talked about turmeric and
I was like, wow, becauseic is and as a very
fast anti right. But one of the things that stood
at Angels when they talk about licorice root. That's when
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my eyebrows raised, because we use that as one of
our prime ingredients in fibrol and licorice root has also
anti inflammatory properties. But there's also been studies on liquorice
root that it inhibits the proliferation of unine fibrians. A
lot of people wanted to stay away from it because
of its agenic properties, but we knew that it was
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phytal estrogen that it was producing, so it wouldn't stimulate.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Or stimulating the fibroids.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
The fibroids or estragen levels. And we've been having so
much success with that. So when I'm reading these studies
and I was like, they literally.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Took the yeah, you know what, it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Data.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
When I ask you about that as a as a doctor,
how do you embrace holistic methods because doctors a lot
of times aren't going to make those types of recommendations.
Like you said, there have to be studies that are
done so that you can make sure that you're giving
the proper information.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
But when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Saying, well, you know, try this, because a lot of
times the doctor isn't going to say, well, let's do
a holistic method.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I think that physicians and all my colleagues out there
will testify to this, is that we have a responsibility
to our patients, uh to give data. But I always say,
the absence of evidence is not evidence, right, and so
you know, we have to look at the safety of
things and what we know about things, and you know,
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like vitamin D is not completely benign, right, And so
I don't just pump my patients up with vitamin D
and then and then they have other problems with their
calcium levels, and so you just you have to be
it's out of balance, because everything is things to think
about balance. But I do think that building collaborations because
it's very important because there are limits to what I know,
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and then you have to build a team about people
who are also doing further studies and investigations and things
that I don't know, but to qualify that to my
patients to say there are things we do not know.
And I think that honesty goes a long way. So
I always say that you can try something and we can.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
See how it works for you.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Because not every treatment, whether it's from Western medicine down
the gamut, will work for every person. And so it's
really about that person's journey and kind.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Of and honoring what they want, honoring what they want
and what they need, what their symptoms are, and helping
them to navigate that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But I have to, you know, my medicine background.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
I have to, like I to say wholeheartedly, I have
to have data I have like ten years.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And what I like is when these things can coexist, right,
because what's also into is sometimes a holistic approach doesn't
work for everyone, right, and it is necessary.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Remember we always say it's not either or right.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like you even said, get why don't you getting chemo?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And that is not you know, you do coexist well.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Truly holistic means that you are doing everything that is
necessary and beneficial.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It may that means fueling and blending traditional.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
And holistic practices as they actually can go exist coexist together.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Right. I think that's really important.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Some people that that polarization is very damaging that whole idea.
And that's why again I called doctor Tiffany a unicorn
because she's like, first of all, you know, a lack
of lack of evidence doesn't mean it's not possible.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
That's like that mindset.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Starts it off right that hey, that there's an open door,
so that now that research is backing it up more
like that's okay. Do you want to talk about the
whole oxidata, stress and free radicals?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, So just so people understand one, I think we
need to break it down first what a fibroid is, right,
And so we talked about fibroids are smooth muscle tumors
and they start off as smaller than a grain like
a mustard seed, right, and one cell that proliferates, But
why does it do that? So muscle cells are normal
to the uterus, but these tumors are not. And it's
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because a cell can become damaged and that damage usually
starts in the DNA where it doesn't it doesn't act normally. Right,
Everything has a life cycle. But if something evades its
own life cycle and continues to just grow and multiply,
it becomes a tumor. And we believe that, and we've
always believed that free radicals do play a role in that.
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And free radicals are not completely bad. They play a
role in many things in our bodies are so free
radicals charged charged particles that can, you know, break down
DNA and cause cascades in other places in our body.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
But they develop in everything from when you digest food,
when you breathe air, to when you have exposure to
toxins right to chronic stress. So your body forms amone
a regular Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
And they're necessary like just for instance, like a menstrual cycle,
Like you wouldn't get a menstrual cycle without these reactive
oxidative species.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Like the.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Bodies.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
But if you have an imbalance.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
So we have free radicals or reactive oxidate oxidative species,
and then we also have antioxidants.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
At blueberries and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And I tell my.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Patients about blueberries though berberries, but however, Yeah, but so
it's that imbalance that can lead to these cells becoming
damaged and then leading to that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And the antioxists help to neutralize the free radicals when
they're radical, when they're kind of out of control, so.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
They let berries they have anti accidents. So that's the balance.
Let me ask you something.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So one of the effects of having fibris is that
people can be bloated, right, you can see that, and
you see a lot of people taking these weight loss drugs.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
How does that affect fibers.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Has there been anything done to see that because sometimes
people are like, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Bloated on this and that let me just actually fibroids.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, and let me it's not going to help the fibroids,
that's for certain.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, Yeah, you want to address the fibroids. What do
they have any side effects? Again, that's hard to tell.
But that's not addressing the fibris because they need to
go and get like I'm all right, done to actually
know the location of the fibroids, how many they have,
and I think we should shed a greater light. That
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I'm excited about when I read the research because now
we go to research, is that we are in a
position now to say to women, look, we can make
you prevent We actually got data to support you do this.
This can prevent you getting urine fibers. If you do
have urine fibers and you want to batter them, if
you're not in the advanced stage, we can also help
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you and we have shown to eliminate and dissolve. However,
if you're in the advanced disease stay of urine fibers,
we have.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But you know we love you doctor, we have.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
P and then secondly, we also have the prevention that
even after you've had surgery.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The return because it can't get at.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Three different stages or three different cases. We've got you covered.
No one can do that that hasn't been done before,
and now we've got research to back.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You got to talk about the inflammatory protocol and then
how how it trickles into everything.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Can I just answer the question about the weight loss,
and because we don't, we definitely want to be clear
on different risk factors that we also know contribute to
things like fibroids, so obesity is one of them. And
so even though they weren't looking at it that way before,
they've always looked at how our weight plays a role.
And we know that our adiposts are fat cells, they're
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they're indocrine, are there, they're organs that do produce hormones
in the.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Organ that they produce very goods.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
And we know that estrogen plays a role. And so
these weight loss medications just like they didn't study them
to say that they were going to improve fertility, but
they absolutely have improved fertility and patients that have polycystic
ovary syndrome because as a you know, kind of a
downstream effect because the weight loss fibers may also be
something that we see.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Evol very good when we look but I think symptoms.
What we were saying is.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
The fibers that are present, they're they're not like as
you're losing weight though, fiber is not necessarily going away, but.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It could be. What you just said is very good.
It can stop feeding.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It because contribute that negative feedback, and the obese.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Absolutely, yeah, vibration, you didn't know you because now you
have a flat.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah, just a piggyback on that, because one of the
things that play along side with obesity is your insulin,
the hormone insulin. So we want to be insulin sensitive,
but then if you're insulin resistance. Insulin now is a
hormone that just transports glue cose, but it also is
it stores fat. It holds fat, which then is going
to elevate more your estrading levels up because fat feeds estrade.
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So that way what doctor Tiffany was saying, when you
put all the dots together, you can see how now
that turns someone from insulin resistance to insulin sensitive. Can
also improve the hormonal balance.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
And you know have a definitely it's not a treatment
for fibers, but by treating that issue, you can improve
your circumstance around fibers.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Very good potential potential that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Have now that now that we have evidence, right, so
how does that change how you guys with these you know,
with the detax now and with the n fabrics education
even how you can now market the product too, because
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it does change things like I know having in the
juice buyers certain things we know, you know, it helps
with this, but you can't say it necessarily now, can
this be marketed differently with evidence?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, I mean because the science, the science around it
is it's more robust now. So because the science is
more robust, it's like, Okay, here you are. There was
a reason behind the anti inflammatory nutrition, the supplements and
the stress the fasting.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Oh yes, break that down.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
That's really important because these things are scientifically proven to
help specifically with fireboards. Now they're not just great health benefits.
Now the research actually specifically tached and connect them to
uterine fibroids reduction, and.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's it's important to know that the research is.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Ongoing and evolving, and so, you know, especially when you're
looking at a marketing aspect as far as like a
juice bar, you know, it is it is important to
say where we are and not overstate where we are.
And I do think that there's a lot of great evidence.
I don't think that any of us have concrete evidence
just yet of these things are going to be the
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end all be all, but they definitely are taking a
great right start. And I think something that was touched
upon earlier, when you know, like if you do surgery right,
it's like I do surgery, I remove fibroids all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But then what do we do next? Right?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
And so then because if I do fibroid surgery and
you're twenty eight, I'm gonna see you back at thirty
two by the same surgery. And so it's you know,
it's very exciting, and I think that, you know, as
the as the research goes on and we have more
concrete data, I hope it gets there and I think it.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Will absolutely, But that's a tiffany when it comes to
like you said, if you're twenty eight and we remove fibrids,
I'll see you again likely at thirty two. What is
that rate of which people patients do have to come
back about?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, fifty sixty percent.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
That's why we also try to delay having to start
these you know, anybody who's had to go through a
fibeth surgery knows, like you know, I try to delay
until somebody is ready to have children or if their
symptoms are so bad we have to. But we definitely
don't want to cut on people earlier earlier.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
But for us, it's like the more and the sooner
you become educated about what you can do in terms
of your own protocols like the lifestyle changes, whether it's
the nutrition plant. That's why the kit comes with a
nutrition plan, the supplements practices, you know, education so that
you know, okay, wait a minute, what's in my power
to do?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Right?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Because now if I know what's in my power to do,
I want to catch it before it becomes fibrids, right,
meaning okay, let me look at this vitamin D deficiency
because oh well, let me look at my you know,
how how am I are my periods?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's a warning sign? Right? Am I bloating when I eat?
How about that?
Speaker 5 (29:04):
That's a warning sign that my body is having an
inflammatory response?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
And that's really important for us to now to say, Okay,
I can help my body prevent them, and if I
am dealing with them postop, I definitely never I did
a post this week three things to never do after
fib word surgery. Never go back to a toxic lifestyle
that you had before.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Never yeah, never, hear, never go never do that?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
So it's really important because now that we have more
evidence around the impact of these things, it helps people
to say, Okay, you know what, all right, I don't
want to be back on that operating table and then
facing possible surgical complications we've talked about at length, you know,
like what ten days after my second mind ectomy, I'm
being open stem discerned again because of the small valbstruction
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that developed around where the scar tissue that was your
body needs to heal from the surgery.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Are tissue wrapped around.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
My small tests and where they had to cut out
almost two feet and that was a life.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Threatening thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So I think that's really important, something that's really important
that we haven't talked about. And I want to go
into just vitamin D therapy specifically because we've talked about it,
but I wanted to touch on the points that studies
have shown specifically that it's the number one hormone that
your body uses to fight fibroids, but that specifically it
helps with the vitamin D hormone is created through absorption
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of the skin, which doctor Tiffany talked about, right, and
that is that the pandemic for people of color around
it is because our melanin blocks the absorption of the sun.
It actually reduces our body's ability to produce the D
three hormone. So that risk is an inverse risk where
the more vitamin D deficient you are. The studies have
shown that the more occurrences of fibroids, the more numbers
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of fibroids, right, the more severe.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
In terms of symptoms. Right, And here in glows.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Actually around eighty two percent of black women are actually
vitamin D deficient because of that. And the biggest thing
is because we just don't realize, oh, I need to
be supplemented. Right, They're like, oh, I go outside, but
you don't go outside for an hour if you're my complexion,
because you need it to forty minutes if you're my complexion.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Don't get you gone, right.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
And one study found that higher levels of vitamin D
block uterine fibroids growth all right. Another one found that
it plays a significant role in shrinking fibroids by inhibiting
the transforming growth factor beta, which is the most relevant
white blood cell that plays a role in increasing and
changing uterine tissue uterine muscle tissue. So this is great, right,
(31:44):
But all of these studies are actually linked in our
n fibroids books. So people want to go into it
them and read them.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
That because you said, see that might go over thehead,
but their little technicality is how complex vitamin D is
and what it does that white blood cell. So you
have two forms of cyto kings. You have anti inflammatory,
it is a white flammatory. These are white blood cells.
It suppresses the inflammatory side or kings. So you know,
during COVID nineteen, everybody that had low vitamin D or
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was deficient, they had severe experiences cyto kingstones. People who
had normal or high levels of vitamin D they didn't
have so much severe. And that's what it does. And
it's actually in that study that Jesse was reading from
women that had vitamin D treatment, they saw seventeen to
twenty three percent shrinkage.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
D is very complex. We have vitamin D receptors all
over the body, and like Dr Tiffany said, it's an
ongoing research, ongoing studies.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
So a couple of very important things about vitamin D.
Number one is don't just start taking vitamin D without
getting your levels checked.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Now just say that. We also need to understand how
much it costs to check vitamin D.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, and that's labs. Don't just your labs.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Wn't just thirteen hundred dollars way through insurance so.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
My insurance never charges me. That's good.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
So make sure make sure your insurance covers very important
Black women glattificy. Make sure your insurance covers vitamin D testing.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I think it's important because when we want to like
put something into the main, yeah, they got to know,
get accessible.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
So I had my own patients come back with crazy
bills and so it's just it's.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
So insurance doesn't necessarily cover this.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well, mine does, but not everybody.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
When you're choosing your insurance, that's a very important part
because people don't always think, like, wait a minute, what
is gonna like that specific test. It's like some people MRI,
you're not going to get that covered until you've gone
through an ultrasound and then you've gone through this, you know,
like at there's certain levels to check that's important to know.
So while we're talking about vitamin D, don't you know
if you number one are of melanated skin and you
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don't take vitamin D, you need to take vitamin You
need to start there, okay. And so normal levels, according
to the encrin society are between sufficiency is starting at thirty.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
So most people are like, I know, I'm vitamin deficient.
I'm vitamin D deficient. I'm at nine, right, and that
is deeply deficient.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
That's bad.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
But when they go to the doctor, they're typically told
their levels are normal when they hit around thirty. Okay,
So number one, that's not enough because that's the low normal, right,
that's like giving you just I could just breathe. Now,
your body does not have enough to fight tumors and
all the things that you need if you are at
the low levels of vitamin D. So ask your doctor
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what are the high normals of vitamin D that I.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Should be at, and what if what does too much
vitamin D do?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
So that was gonna say, typically it should be around
between fifty, is like around the high normal. Mine is
between like fifty and seventy because I've noticed when I
feel like everything's working.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But if it's like too high, it can cause what.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Well, it definitely can lead to like kidney stones and
kidney stone calcium, right, And so that's what you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Really but it's very hard.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Clear it is too okay. So the other thing that
I would definitely say is I have had clients tell
me that they they aren't able to get their D.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Three levels up and here's the reason why. Number one,
they don't realize the D three has to be it
is absorbed with healthy fats.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
They take it with water, whatever, and they don't realize that.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
If you're just taking D three and you're not taking
it with like avocado or fish, soil.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Or nuts or something coconuts, your body is having trouble
absorbing it properly. Now they can just take the deep
talks now because we already have it fats.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
They could put it in a smoothie with an avocado yeat.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
But some people one of the biggest things I hear
is I always forget to take my vitamins.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I always forget.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I definitely forget my vitamins.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
See and and so like we put it right there
on the tip of your little corner as you leave
in take them.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Boom boom done.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
You're done, right, So that's number one. Number two is
that taking it? Are you taking enough? A lot of
people will say, well, I'm taking like one thousand, two
thousand a day, and guess what, that's.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Only to maintain your when it's normal.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
When it's normal, all right, So if you're not taking
like at least for me, it's like five to ten
thousand in a day if I'm trying to increase it, right,
But talk to your doctor about it to find out
what should I be taking daily in terms of I
use in order to increase it, because if if you
you know, some.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
People give up, they're like, oh, I can't get it.
I'm like, I was talking to my cousin another cousin,
I said, how much will you take it? She says,
I'm taking like one thousand and two.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I said, that's not gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
That's the problem.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
So please number one, find out what your number is.
Number two, make sure you're taking it with a healthy
fat or get the detox now that has the healthy
fats in it. And number three, make sure you're taking
enough to get your numbers high. And you want to
know that you're at the high normal levels, okay, so
that your body can actually fight the fire words can fight.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You know, whether it's in immune issues. Guess what.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Studies have shown that menopause symptoms mimic vitamin D deff like, actually,
if you have vitamin D deficient, you can be having
menopause symptoms or they can make your menopause symptoms worse
if your levels are too low. So a lot of
women you're actually not going into menopause, you're vitamin.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
D deficient, or I think I have menopause, or parents everybody,
everybody said, everybody, everybody.
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So this is why we're extremely excited about our n
five words program.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Okay, how can people get more information?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Yes, well, we're actually doing a thirty day special where
I'm going to be with doctor a Moon and special guests.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Well, we're actually going to be offering free live weekly
sessions in the group sessions. Free live. Yes, it starts August.
It starts August.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
You don't have to budget for it.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, we'll be meeting weekly on Zoom to take you
through actually walking through what green tea should you be taking?
What's our program? What are we drinking and eating this week?
Are we fasting the second week? You know, all of
the so that we're doing it together because community accountability
and support actually helps us win. Right, So for thirty
days only, we'll be doing this and they'll it's it's
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something that they're getting at no extra costs with the
purchase of their.
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Kit, and we have a way up code.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Okay, of course we exclusively.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know with way up the code, way up one word,
they can save forty Never have we done that our
way up.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
With the way up code, because look, they'll get meal plans,
they'll get recipes, they'll they'll get the support of our
virtual group exercise techniques. And you know, because we hear
people they're saying, I want freedom from bloody sheets. We
want from heavy cycles. We want freedom from pages painful sex.
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That's true.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
We want periods see.
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Them from a debilitating cramps that make me call out
from work. We want freedom from infertility. We want freedom
from miscarriages. We want freedom from debilitating fatigue. We want
freedom from the shame of looking pregnant.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That again, we.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Want freedom from the shame of looking pregnant. Okay, we
just want freedom from vibroids. And we're here to say.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
We got you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
And that's Kamala Harris's freedom song that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You didn't know.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's what doctor, that's what, Yes, President Kamala Harris was
actually talking about. We want freedom from vibriids.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
She cares about that too. And Dot Tippy, how can
people find you?
Speaker 6 (39:48):
So I practice at can See Fertility Center in Dallas, Texas. Okay,
So find me if you have questions on Instagram and
follow her.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I v F M D.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
I'm happy to answer questions, but I cannot give medical advice. Okay, Instagram,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Concept.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
She's not playing. She's going as she should nonfessional. We're
not playing again.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
The private conversation with doctor Tiffany downstairs. And I'm telling
you now, all my sisters or the sisters.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
We need to get She's one of our physicians, stands.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
The struggle of a black woman and I'm being a
black woman and she's from l A. Okay, right, And
on that note, we have to say, don't you know
they're not like.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Us, Like so you look like Drake.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You gotta rely.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
That's fine. I'm the black drink.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'm really big Drake.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Everyone, everybody just get along, all right?
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Calling you doctor Tiffany, I got more question.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
She's definitely on point.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And thank you, guys, both for always coming to the
talks now dot com.
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Yep, thetas now dot com sign up, y'all, let's do that.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Say thank you. And besides that job you just gave me,
but apart from that, over the years, you have been really,
really supportive. You always had a platform for us, and
we truly appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I always say, it's really important work that's being done here.
And I know you've helped so many people who have
personally seen look sit and I did the Detax together
as accountability partners. Yeah, exactly, And we're gonna do it again, right, Yeah,
we're gonna do it again all right.
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