October 28, 2019 • 39 mins
Jana and Mike have a new neighbors that are causing trouble but they’re not sure how to handle the situation.
Kanye West mentioned his struggle with sex addiction after the release of his new album. We hear Mike’s thoughts on what addiction actually means and what he thinks about Kanye’s comments.
Plus Jana and Mike open up about some serious pet peeves.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janvick, Taylor and Michael Cousin and I'm
on radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Bo. Yeah, so I learned something new about Mike and
sure we were on We were in New York last
week and Mike leaned over to me and he goes,
(00:31):
are you guys.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
There, Mark, Yes, yes, we're here, of course.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Are you ready for this? So he leans over and
he's just like, you know what just drives me crazy?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And I was like, what, what was it? I don't
remember the Southwest? Oh yeah, I don't know why. It's
just when people that are maybe not foreign and live
in America and get onto a Southwest airplane or are
(01:01):
boarding a Southwest airplane and they ask a million questions
because they don't understand how to.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
A situation on Southwest? What's that because you don't have
an assigned seat? Is that the issue?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, and people it just blows people's minds. I'm a
granted we travel so much, I mean, but it made
me think. I'm like, when when was the first time
I took a Southwest flight? Like my first experience? I
don't remember.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think I was super young when I took my
first one.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But how long has Southwest been doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's actually a really good question. I don't know. I'm
going to look that up. How long is Southwest? Mark?
You gotta you gotta see how long I can take
care of that.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, But you know a great thing about Southwest if
I may, because I know some people are a little
bit honked off yourself, like, yeah, they don't charge bag.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Fees, yeah, and for change fees for Southwest.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
But I'm baffled by that because at this point, if
they didn't know, what would get mad at them.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
But they don't, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You'll see they opened in nineteen seventy one, But when
did they start doing the seat yourself thing?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think it's always been seeing yourself? Maybe really I
don't I think so, but I mean, obviously I don't
remember remember. But it's funny though, because Mike said that
if it was an American he gets angry at But
then he said that he saw these like two Chinese
people not knowing where to sit, and he's like, oh, well.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Just someone who's foreign who doesn't maybe isn't from America
and it's new to them. I empathize with that, but
someone who I guess and it's just wrong for me
to assume that everybody flies all the time and should
understand it. It's not just asking one question. It's just
I experienced these these group are like three people the
other day when we're flying back from New York that
just asks like ten questions and just couldn't wrap their
(02:53):
heads around it. And I just wanted to be like,
just get on the plane, set where you want. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I can't imagine what questions two through ten would be,
because the first question would be so I can sit
wherever I want?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yes, right, It's just funny what you get because like
you can be very it's just funny what you get
upset about. Like I think stupid people that are stupid
you don't like, Like I think stupidity really bothers you,
because I know you get a little bit more annoyed
with me when I say things that are wrong or
(03:23):
I say the wrong grammar, and so I think you
it's just it's just funny because I think I think
it's just stupid people you don't like. But then who
on the flip side, though, you'll do some stupid things
and never but it's like you don't see that. But
it's like you know what I mean, it's just about
seeing other people.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's all about my perspective. How is it view the world?
If you don't view it my way, then it's oh,
I'm kidding now, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I have an interesting topic. Well, I don't even know
if actually I can talk about it. Why if you knew, Well,
because I don't know who listens to the podcast, Like
if it was someone that listens, and I don't want
to be offensive.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think you have to go for it now. Now, yeah,
just genericize it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Okay. Let's say there's someone in the neighborhood that has
a problem child and they were kind of known from
the last neighborhood for example, like lighting things on fire,
vandalizing I mean to the point of like really gross
(04:31):
stuff that would you know it is throwing rocks and
then also I mean bullying kids, inappropriately touching younger children.
And then you find out they moved to your neighborhood.
What do you think, Because Michael and I've had this
conversation now because now we're on more of a high alert.
(04:52):
If that's some uncertain person moved into our neighborhood and
it's do you make you or are you nice? Or
I mean, I don't know how to because I'm now
a little bit scared because of the things that I've
heard that are not great? Or do you petition to
kick them out of the neighborhood? But can you even
(05:14):
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, you can't do that. You can't they we don't
have the power to.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I would never want a kid, but I'm just like, what,
what do you like? Do you talk to the kid
that's in high school? And I empathize and I want
to be there, but also the things that I've heard
is scary. They basically we were warned stay away, So
it's do we make ourselves? Does he?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Mike was like, do I talk to him? And but
I'm like, but I don't want him to get scared
and then do something to the house or or bully.
You know, our kids are young.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But it's just something to be aware of.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think, you know, I feel like you were going
to say something to the mom, which I was like,
I don't think you should say. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's one of those I want to where my heart is.
I want to kind of treat it as innocent until
proven guilty, but the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Cops have already been over there. They were already in.
He was already in like one of the other houses.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I understand that I met he seems so nice, but
when I I mean, my text for my friend was
stay away. He is bad news. He's the kid that
would potentially go into a school and do some bad
stuff and that terrifies me for you know, other people,
especially the other kids in the neighborhood. But I don't
want to be that person either. I would love to
(06:35):
be able to help, but then you also hear the
stories when you help, they are also the ones that
hurt you too.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So but no, it's just one of those things that you,
you know, you want to have a we have a
good heart about, but at the same time, ultimately you
have to protect your family and your kids. So it's
it's being able to be empathetic and helpful but also
keep our kids away. I think that's where we have
to stand with it. Yeah, we can be opened open
(07:02):
to it, but are not with our kids involved.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You know, my problem is my I play too much
scary movies in my head.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You did, I mean, you definitely go like worst case scenario.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I yeah, because our house is kind of like a
fish bowl. We don't have really many shades. So when
it's nighttime and he's gone, it's just you know that
movie Strangers where I feel like I'm just gonna look
to the to the all the open windows in the
house and just see these faces appear.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh gosh. And that's why we're having an alarm and
guns in the house.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And I know, but maybe shades. Maybe before you get
the alarm of the guns, get some shit.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I ask for shades, but Mike says it's going to
ruin the aesthetic of the house.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I put my foot down on that one.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I'm just like, give me some shades. I feel like
I'm in a fish bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's great natural light.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I wonder if there's a way to tint the windows.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, don't they have like the you can bring the
tinting down. There's like a sheet a tinted shade, or
you just hit a button that comes out.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Even having the reservoir above the windows wouldn't look at more.
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Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh Halloween week? Oh yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
What do you mean? What are we doing? We just
tried on our costumes, like we just but I appreciate
the the surprise factor, but we can't tell people what
we're doing yet. But again, I'm very much the family themed,
so everyone, we're all about the family theme. So we're
all a part of a princess fairy tale. We'll say that.
(10:18):
Would you like to guess?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I would like to guess because one year right after Brooklyn,
when my youngest was born, my daughter, my oldest was
snow white, and I was Prince Charming and my wife
was Doc and the little one was the tiny little
dwarf was a baby, was dopey and it was the cutest.
I'm going to send you that picture today because you
will know he's beautiful. Yeah, I'm going to send you that.
(10:41):
So I'm going to guess. Let me think you said
princess fairy tale?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Of course. Are you gonna tell me if I get
it right?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Or no? Sure?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, think about this.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You get one guess though, since you're doing that one guess,
you get one guess because you know, if not, you'll
keep going. And then if we told you that, we're
going to tell you.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That way right, Two boys and two girls? What? Oh? Yeah, okay,
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, here's what I'm saying. Okay, Elsa vir Janna Anna
for Jolee. Mike's gonna be uh what's his name? The
guy with the donkey.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Spen Christoph, Christoph. Yeah, you're gonna be Christoph and then Olaf.
That's the family right there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well you know what, I guess you don't follow us
on Instagram because Mike was a seven foot ole off
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Sorry we were yeah, we were frozen two years ago.
I ordered this off costume.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
By the way, you still have it because I want
you to surprise the kids.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
No, I wish.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Remember we left in La John.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Walked into Jolie's classroom. That would have been so good.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean, I'll reorder it. Anyways, Mark, I found this
costume from straight up from China, got it two years ago,
sent to our house in La It was a legit, legit.
I mean the head was like three feet high itself
and I'm six foot five, so I was literally nine
feet tall. Huge round costume, legs, slippers, everything. We go
(12:04):
to Luca Lake to trick or treat, which you know
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Place to go. Oh oh yeah, they're showing me a picture. Now, wow,
you are tall.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And the best part about it, Mark, walking through to
Luca Lake, I mean you would have thought I was
paid to be there. Everyone wanted a picture with me.
It was a it was a meet and Greek was
a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
He was I mean everyone was high fiving him, and
it was it was that will go down.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean it's hard to beat that.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
It is real hard to beat that. But now I
love that.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I know. Do you still have it?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No, it's literally it's humongous. So we threw it away
in LA because we already did it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You can't even have shades. I could you have a
giant Olaf costume of that house?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know. It's too big.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But it's gonna be fun though. Oh it'll be Jason's
first Halloween. He's gonna be so cute. Oh, he's the
best friend. He's almost walking. Hey Easton, what's up with
the crocs?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
What's what's up with the crocs?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Well it's c October.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Is that a thing? Or is that a thing that
you made up?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
It's a thing.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
It's it's it's a thing that croc Crocs made it up.
But I'm celebrating it in a.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Really big way. Do you have Crocs on?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I don't have crocs on at the moment because I'm
at work and I'm a professional and Crocs.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Are a leisure shoe I was wearing.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I've been wearing them a lot this month, though.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, I saw you hiking with them, and I was like,
I don't know if you should be hiking with Crocs
on I mean, I love Crocs. Jolie calls them her
alligator shoes, but I mean, you've really every time I've
watched your stories this week or this month, it's been
c October.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah, I've a you know, I was gonna do every
night of the month. I was going to profile a
different pair of Crocks for my collection, but I only
have three. I ran out of ideas after day three.
But I you know, I took it as a creative
challenge and I've just been doing original Croc content every
single day of the month.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's huge.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Any fine heard from Crocs?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah, I've been messing with CROs. I've been trying to
get Crocs. I don't want like money or anything. I
just want them to know that I'm a passionate fan
and I have some questions for them. Actually, I've been
trying to get them to interview with me. No no answer,
no answer. And then finally Ben Higgins from the Almost
Famous podcast reposted one of my stories and Crocs came
reaching out.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Wow huge, your celebrity.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Hey I'm just trying to spread the good word. Crocs
are a comfortable shoe.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Did anyone read the Kanye West story? By the way?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes? Yeah? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
What are hey, Tory? Do you want to give the
brief rundown of what the article said?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah, So basically it's him kind of saying that he's
redirecting his life. There was a lot in the article
about him like starting a church, doing a faith based
Christian album, but his struggle with sex addiction has been
something he's been dealing with for a really long time,
and so he's been opening up about that and basically,
(15:00):
I don't know, I just I think it's a really
interesting article to hear that Kanye West, and I guess
that he's kind of opened up about it prior. I
was looking at some other articles, but it was never
to this extent of him being like, here's where I'm
at and here's where I struggle with and yeah, so
that's basically kind of a little when you read it too, right, Mite.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, The thing is it's Kanye West. So I feel
like anything he says kind of has to be taken
with a grain of salt. Why because he just he
says outlandish thing and outlandish things, and he just has
is he still.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Running for president? Didn't say he was running sween twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Exactly my point. Okay, So the fact that that even
came out of his mouth, it's hard to take everything
he says. And you know, if he claims that he
suffers from sex addiction, then you.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Know that may that's such a that's such a big
thing to just come out and say, right, I mean,
that would be kind of It's.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Kind of like when Dax Shepherd said something about that
and he said, I used to suffer from sex addiction.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He said that, yeah, well, if you're a sex addict
use right, I know.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But and he's even I'm pretty sure he's in a
twelve step program for drugs or something like that. But
so it's I don't know. It's just one of those
things that as someone who's open and out about it,
it's frustrating at times because I feel like in situations
like this, it's just it just feels thrown.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Around almost if they're not making it. Because when you say,
like I use, when Dak says like I used to
be a sex addict, that's almost devaluing what the addiction
is from someone who has a big platform to be
able to talk about addictions. So saying, like I used to,
that means that you can just get over sex addiction,
which that's not true. When you're an addict, you're always
(16:45):
an addict, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean maybe his not to make this about Dax,
but maybe his thing was more of something else alcoholic
drugs or something that was and maybe the sex aspect
was just a product of that. So I can understand
maybe someone folks seen more on another addiction if they
if they qualify for multiple addictions. Okay, so I can
understand that. Okay, maybe that's what he was saying. Okay,
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But for like Kanye West, it's you know, it's just like, yeah,
I you know, suffer from sex iction two and then
what he's talking about with just a playborn magazine out
and and everything, he doesn't really talk anymore about it.
It's just I don't know. Again, it's Kanye. It's kind
of confusing. I'm just afraid of someone just saying it
(17:32):
just to say it, but not understanding or not living
in recovery, or just saying that was a part of
their life at some point, because it doesn't say anything
that he currently still does, or he goes to meetings
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So it's just I don't know, do you think people
can recover from sex addiction? Like when people say that, so,
I think Jada Pinkett also, I don't want to misquote her.
I believe she also said too that she had a
sex addiction.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
She had, I don't. I don't see how it's a
past tense thing. It's an addiction, just like anything anything else.
People don't say I was an alcoholic, right.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean, I agree with you, Yeah, No, So, I
mean I.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Think that's just a little frustrating because again of someone
who's trying to, you know, educate people out there that
it is a real thing. When it's thrown around like that,
it just feels like it's undermining it, for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, And you're right about the doubt, and he might
have realized, Okay, this is where the actual, the stronger
addiction is, for sure, and that could have maybe played
a part of it with the sex. But to say
to say that, especially when sex addiction is still not
a accepted.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Super socially accepted, accepted addiction.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, it's hard when known or talked about.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
When people are just kind of throw it around, especially
people in the limelight or whatever it's. It just kind
of gives me a bad taste in my mouth because
I'm like, you're not helping the cause, you're not helping anything.
Because then next thing, you know, is it is it
going to turn into some fad right you know where
just nowadays people are more open or there's more you know,
(19:07):
sexual controversy and headlines a lot with me too stuff
and abuse and all this, and it's oh, well sex.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Addiction, And then you can say and then yeah, the
part is saying like, but I'm not anymore. It's like, no,
you still an addiction is something that you have to
continue to work on because when you start to become weaky,
I think that's what scares me. Two when people are like,
but I'm in control of it now, well you need
to have those steps right to be able to continue
to not let it overpower you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, I mean that's what that's my belief. If someone
else believes that there's a cure to addiction, then okay, fine,
but there isn't anybody that in any kind of twelve
step program out there is going to say that anything
else works other than twelve steps. No, one else, No
one in twelve Steps thinks say anything.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And you're not more powerful. You're not more powerful than
the disease or not at all. Yeah, because you may
feel that you're healthy right now in this moment, but
come if you don't practice it and practice the twelve steps,
you're going to end up maybe falling back to the
addiction for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I mean some things may seem simpler than others
to change about your life. I mean there's some aspects
of you know, me being the program that are easier
to handle than they used to be. But that's because
I'm being you know, deeper and deeper into recovery. But
it's as we saw with recent events, it's still there's
still things looming that I have to continue to work
(20:32):
through and you know, get by. So yeah, just I
don't know, it's just again it's Kanye West. Who knows
what he's gonna come out and say next week. You
know that he wants to be the pope or something.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So did he ever say anything about the twenty twenty
election that he remember how he's made a whole thing
about it.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I think he has it a while, you know, he
said on E actually on the E article that he
still has something planned, Like he's still planning his campaign,
is what it said. So I feel like this guy
has a whole family. He has what four or five kids. Now,
I don't see him coming out and saying, hey, I'm
a sex addict just to make a point and like
(21:12):
be Kanye West. I think that's him kind of being like,
here's where I was and now he's like starting a church.
He obviously it sounds like he found he has a
relationship with God now that has like really changed his life.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And I just feel like.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Why are we Why are we trying to judge the
way he's telling his story, Like it may not be
on a podcast, it may not be in a sit
down interview, but to him, this is him expressing something
because he has like kids.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Again, you know, he's not going.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
To just see somebody says a sex addict or is
he says on a sex addiction from age till now
having to kick the habit. It just presents itself in
the open like it's okay, and I stand up.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
For it, and you know it says he's more addicted
to inspiration as much as he is.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
In this set, I could have been like he.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Says he's addicted to porn and that could have been
something that inspired his music and now he wants to
change that direction.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, I think you know what I mean, How I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'll at you because you're in a great point, toy,
and I totally understand that. Again, unfortunately, because it's Kanye West,
and because he's had periods of just outlandish comments and
everything where it's until there's consistency, it's hard for me
personally to believe what he's saying or that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
If I think what you're saying too is because of
the sex addiction not being a very socially accepted addiction
yet that it's just like, oh I was one and
maybe I'm not now, which is not the true sex addiction.
That's not right.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, again, that's fine if he's if he's saying he's
changing his ways and all that, because he is a
family man and he's a man of God and all that.
I'm not questioning that. Just don't just don't throw something
on top of it, and obviously it impacts me more personally.
Don't throw something like an addiction on top of it.
If you're not gonna take it seriously. And you're just
(23:04):
gonna kind of throw it, oh yeah and just shake
my life and uh yeah, sex addiction. But it was
my inspiration. Like you said, why, it's like, wait what,
Hey're just going to go right over that.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Every time he talks, I say, wait what, so exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I'm kind of I think it was pretty cool for
him to open up with it being the Kardashians, because
I think that's a very interesting dynamic to have your
wife be kind of a sex symbol and then have
him open them up on that.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think it's a very interesting dynamic. Yeah, I'm just
more curious to understand the what he meant by either
he was or he is, because I think that's that's
the big difference. And that's where I would have more
of an opinion too, because I do know that, like
you have to be in the program and working it
so to maybe hear more on that. But again, it's
his how he shares it. And yeah, let's try to
(23:52):
get him on book. Sure, Yeah, we're got that.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We'll have a talk with tell shre heally we need
to hold off. We we're gonna get Kanye West said, all.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Right, well let's take a quick break and do some emails. Yes,
do all right, Mark, We have any emails.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Got some good ones this week. This is from V.
She's wondering if she's a bad person, and he hears why.
I'm separated and single and I've been seeing someone on
and off since my separation.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
We've been intimate.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I'm starting to grow feelings for him, but he's technically
my husband's cousin by marriage, not a blood relative, and
my husband's cousin by marriage. I feel like I'm doing
something wrong by seeing him, But at the same time,
I like spending time, and the time we do spend
together is wonderful. We get along great. I'm smiling the
entire time I'm with him. Am I horrible for continuing
to see him? The chemistry's there. I don't want to stop,
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but maybe I should stop now before it gets even
more serious.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Or maybe I just see where things.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Go wait time out. Is she married still or that's
her separation.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
She's not divorced, are they?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
They're separate, but they're getting divorced.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
She did not say that necessarily.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In my opinion, this might be the the not the
popular opinion. I think you should wait until you get divorced,
especially since it's a family person. But I think you
like who you like and if the.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
End day, of course it's okay to date your ex
husband's cousin.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm not saying it's okay. I'm saying I think it's
okay to like who you like and your feelings. You know,
that's just like I mean, look at Shanaia Twain is
married to her best friend's husband and they swapped basically husbands.
When you're so close with and I'm sure there's so
many times when someone has fallen in love with their brother,
their their husband's brother because you're so close with them,
you know them, you get them, you have this connection.
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But because it is family, that could get really bad.
I don't think she's a bad person. I think that's
normal to have feelings because you're so close with these people,
especially with women, because they have that emotion, they're more
emotionally connected to people. So I just think that maybe
you should should hold off until you guys get divorced
and then have a conversation, but don't do it in secret,
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in secrecy, because that'll then drive more of a wedge
in the family. That's my unpopular position.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Who I'm trying to I'm trying to do the family
tree here. A cousin for a cousin by marriage, So
let's talk that out.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Hmmm. That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Because I would think the way I would the way
it sounds to me, is that it would be Okay,
it's his cousin's husband or something. Right, So right if
unless he's married and having an affair with with her,
the one who emailed us, how else would it be
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his cousin by marriage?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It could be his cousin by marriage.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
See what I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It's confusing, and there's such a thing as.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know it would be.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It would be like if if my cousin Eric, it
would be his cousin through marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Be Jessica, Right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So like you dating Jessica.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But but Jessica is married to Eric. That's how she's
a cousin.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Maybe they're separated and get a divorce, might see my
point here, But we don't know that backstory that's true.
Can you mean us again next week?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, we might need some more information on this, but
also more information. I mean, the heart wants what it
wants is a very convenient excuse the people for really
horrible decisions, right.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
But.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yes, and it's also the heart is something you should
always listen to.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
But you know, there's so many questions you can go
so deep with this is okay? Is the attraction to
the cousin by marriage? Is that maybe part of what
causes separation without the husband knowing, you know what I mean?
Like why are they separated? Are they in agreement that
why they're separated that they can see other people? Are
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they living under the same roof? Like, there's a lot
of questions to know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
How close is your husband with this cousin by marriage,
because some cousins are like brother and sister and some
like I have cousins, I wouldn't know if they walk
past me on the street.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh see my first cousins there, they're like my brother
and sister.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Same. Yeah, we're very close first cousins. We both grew
up the same way, where like our first cousins were
like our siblings.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, because the street.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah yeah. So there's just a lot of questions here
on what to know. I think ultimately, again it's it
depends on if you handle this situation with integrity, then
it doesn't have to be that bad. So again, if
her and the current separated husband under agreement of what
they can do, what the boundaries are right now while
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they're separated, if when they do get divorced, she doesn't
be sneaky about it, and she explains that this is
the person that she's seen.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So I think it's also a female thing too. And
we always said this in our relationship. If I was
ever too cheat, it'd be some close to us, right,
because I'm just that emotional that I'm more of an
emotional cheater, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think that is more of a woman thing and guys,
at least from me maybe, but for me personally, that
would make me uncomfortable if it was somebody that we knew.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Mark, all right, this is from Callen. I'm super close.
This is actually actually flows nicely from that one. I'm
super close with my parents, my brother, my extended family, cousins, aunts,
and uncles. My fiance is from a broken family and
only talks to them a few times a month. I
talk with my family multiple times a day. We've been
living together for four years. I moved across the country
with him, and now we're engaged. He still he still
(29:40):
feels like he's second to my family. I want him
to feel like he's my priority.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
He is.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm absolutely in love with him, but I don't want
to change the relationship with my family to prove it.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I don't think she has to.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
She shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
No, No, just include him. So if you're having family
this is something that I'll say, you know, if they're
having family group messages, just include him in the text message,
include him in the family messages. And I think that
could help him feel a part of things. I know
it always a part of things when i'm when you know,
your mom includes me in the messages, and probably vice versa.
(30:13):
We don't really do group messages on my side, but
you know, I think that would help maybe that situation.
But I don't think she should ever stop.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No and just to and just I can understand his
insecurity because he doesn't have that relationship, so.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It's probably more to interface.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's foreign. It's foreign to him. So if she just
continues to include him, like janas saying, then also reassure him, hey,
you are my family, You are a part of this family,
like this is you know, everybody loves you too, or
just something to kind of make him feel better or
more comfortable around.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It, but also to have empathy for what he doesn't.
He didn't doesn't and didn't have too, so to be like,
you know that must because I think that's more self
reflection on his part, while he's maybe projecting it is because.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He didn't have because he's insecure about it. He didn't
have it. That's and yeah, and for he should definitely
try to embrace it and maybe change his mindset. Because
for me, I know, just even from dating people, you know,
as a young adult or younger person, I always knew
I wanted my future wife to have like an awesome family.
So I wanted great in laws. I wanted I love
(31:18):
spending time with my significant other. And so like Mary
and Janna, I like hit a home run with that
because I love her family. I love the things we
all do together. We have so much fun, and like that.
I've always wanted that. That's something that's always been important
I valued. So I mean that's something he should definitely
try to embrace, like you're saying, Mark, and just like
enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So if my family sucked you and married.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Me, no, I'm not saying that. It was just definitely
something that was important to me that I wanted to
be able to have in laws, not just in laws,
but in law family. Yeah, a fun family that enjoyed things,
and I mean, we have so much fun every time
we get together.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
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Speaker 4 (34:01):
Can you wait till I do one more email? And
then oh yeah for Jordan.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
This is from Christine. My husband and I've been married
for almost three years and together almost eleven. We've been
trying to get prgened for a year and a half.
After the year mark, I'm thirty one, we went to
a fertility specialist. He had a semen analysis and I
had an HSG and several other tests. The results came
back that I'm good. His overall sperm count is good,
but the viable sperm are very low. So we've started
(34:29):
talking about artificial insemination, but he doesn't want to go
that way. Every cycle we get another negative test and
we're both devastated and he feels like it's his fault.
I do my best not to blame him, but the
clock is ticking and he's still not coming around. To insemination.
I met a lost. I met a loss. There's nothing
in this world that I want more than to be
a mom. And adding to it, we're getting immense pressure
(34:49):
from his mother to have kids. She's very negative to
him and nasty to me about it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh well, that's awful that the in laws are pressuring,
especially when it's already such a stressful situation to begin with.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, it's unfair, Michael.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Let you speak on this because I know that you
had a tough time with all of this.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I mean I personally didn't have a tough time.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
You did with the playing like God and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Oh yeah, well yeah, but that's also because my account
was fine, so there wasn't an issue there. But I
can I definitely empathize with him because you know, when
it comes to pregnancy and stuff, essentially we have one job,
right and from a scientist scientific point of view, we
(35:34):
have one job, and when we aren't able to do
that job, if we aren't able to do that job,
I can imagine that feeling really degrading as a man,
being like, man, this is the one thing I have
to do to give you a child, and I can't
do that. So if he's able to look at it
from a different mindset and just be like, you know what,
(35:57):
this is just a different way I can give my
wife the gift of of a child. I would do
whatever it took. Ultimately, Sure it weigh on me a
little bit, but just changing my mindset and being like, well,
this is what I have to do. I want a
family with you, you want to be pregnant, you want a child.
Let's do this. However we have to do it. Granted
we had option to do artificial insemination when we did IVF.
(36:20):
That was a little different.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
That's more.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Is that what they're talking about doing or is it
just like turkey based?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think both.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So what I didn't like about the IVF thing is
when they took one individual sperm and injected in the egg.
I liked it where they basically put a syringeful's sperm
in the petri dish with the egg against like let
the best man win. I didn't like selecting one sperm.
That's when I felt like it was playing god because
the sperm that was supposed to go maybe wasn't that one.
(36:51):
But with if it's just still you can still artificially
inseeminate by not doing that. So I don't think that's
necessarily necessary an issue with playing god. I think you
got to do what you gotta do to get pregnant.
And if they've tried this much and they felt that devastation,
then it's like, hey, this is what I have to do.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Mm hm, I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So, but it's right, he's going to feel like a failure.
I think that's what he's going through, is the feeling
like a failure. And if you do the art insemination,
you've given up, like it's like so many people surrendering.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
So many people have to though, and so hopefully he
can get past that to know that it's not just
him that deals with this.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, everyone's going to know. If you guys have a
baby together, you don't have to announce in the birth
announcement that she was done via artificial insemination. No one
has to know that except you and.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Your wife, right, And I bet the statistics are a
lot higher now too with people that have to do that. Sure,
Oh definitely, it's not like it's probably close to fifty,
I would think.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And I think what he needs to also maybe to
help his mindset is to realize, well, like for me,
I would rather it be me than Jana because the
women feel so much pressure, right, because that's literally like
what women maybe think they were put on this earth
to do was to bear a child. Right, So I
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can't imagine the height and emotions that a woman may
feel if they're not able to be fertile and have kids.
So as a man, it's like, I'll I'll take that
burden for you. If it was on me, cool, great,
I'll do whatever I have to do to give you
a child. Because I don't. I wouldn't want Janet to
feel that. So for him, he should be like, you
know what, better me than you. I got you money,
(38:29):
whatever we have to do, I got you. I'm just
glad it's not you. You don't have to deal with this.
Let me take this burden and let me give your
child in any way that I can. So if he
can change his mindset like that and just just still
be able to show it for her, I think he
would have a much better time mentally and emotionally processing it.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I mean, I was super off on the percentage. It's
only two percent, but still I think that's still two percent.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Is artificial insamdation.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
The and the centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports
about four million births per year in the US, meaning
one to two percent of all US berths are in nually,
are or are via IVF.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Really wow, that seems very.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Shockingly low in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
But yeah, but there's also like three hundred and fifty
million people in this country. So think about the two
percent of that, and then it takes us back to
the other one. There's three hundred and fifty million people
in this country. Maybe you don't have to date your
husband's cousin wait to bring you back. There is love.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Love is love. Oh what a good note. I love
you guys. Happy Halloween.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Be safe out there.
Wind Down with Janvick, Taylor and Michael Cousin and I'm
on radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Bo. Yeah, so I learned something new about Mike and
sure we were on We were in New York last
week and Mike leaned over to me and he goes,
(00:31):
are you guys.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
There, Mark, Yes, yes, we're here, of course.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Are you ready for this? So he leans over and
he's just like, you know what just drives me crazy?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And I was like, what, what was it? I don't
remember the Southwest? Oh yeah, I don't know why. It's
just when people that are maybe not foreign and live
in America and get onto a Southwest airplane or are
(01:01):
boarding a Southwest airplane and they ask a million questions
because they don't understand how to.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
A situation on Southwest? What's that because you don't have
an assigned seat? Is that the issue?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, and people it just blows people's minds. I'm a
granted we travel so much, I mean, but it made
me think. I'm like, when when was the first time
I took a Southwest flight? Like my first experience? I
don't remember.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think I was super young when I took my
first one.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But how long has Southwest been doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's actually a really good question. I don't know. I'm
going to look that up. How long is Southwest? Mark?
You gotta you gotta see how long I can take
care of that.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, But you know a great thing about Southwest if
I may, because I know some people are a little
bit honked off yourself, like, yeah, they don't charge bag.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Fees, yeah, and for change fees for Southwest.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
But I'm baffled by that because at this point, if
they didn't know, what would get mad at them.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
But they don't, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You'll see they opened in nineteen seventy one, But when
did they start doing the seat yourself thing?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think it's always been seeing yourself? Maybe really I
don't I think so, but I mean, obviously I don't
remember remember. But it's funny though, because Mike said that
if it was an American he gets angry at But
then he said that he saw these like two Chinese
people not knowing where to sit, and he's like, oh, well.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Just someone who's foreign who doesn't maybe isn't from America
and it's new to them. I empathize with that, but
someone who I guess and it's just wrong for me
to assume that everybody flies all the time and should
understand it. It's not just asking one question. It's just
I experienced these these group are like three people the
other day when we're flying back from New York that
just asks like ten questions and just couldn't wrap their
(02:53):
heads around it. And I just wanted to be like,
just get on the plane, set where you want. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I can't imagine what questions two through ten would be,
because the first question would be so I can sit
wherever I want?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yes, right, It's just funny what you get because like
you can be very it's just funny what you get
upset about. Like I think stupid people that are stupid
you don't like, Like I think stupidity really bothers you,
because I know you get a little bit more annoyed
with me when I say things that are wrong or
(03:23):
I say the wrong grammar, and so I think you
it's just it's just funny because I think I think
it's just stupid people you don't like. But then who
on the flip side, though, you'll do some stupid things
and never but it's like you don't see that. But
it's like you know what I mean, it's just about
seeing other people.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's all about my perspective. How is it view the world?
If you don't view it my way, then it's oh,
I'm kidding now, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I have an interesting topic. Well, I don't even know
if actually I can talk about it. Why if you knew, Well,
because I don't know who listens to the podcast, Like
if it was someone that listens, and I don't want
to be offensive.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think you have to go for it now. Now, yeah,
just genericize it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Okay. Let's say there's someone in the neighborhood that has
a problem child and they were kind of known from
the last neighborhood for example, like lighting things on fire,
vandalizing I mean to the point of like really gross
(04:31):
stuff that would you know it is throwing rocks and
then also I mean bullying kids, inappropriately touching younger children.
And then you find out they moved to your neighborhood.
What do you think, Because Michael and I've had this
conversation now because now we're on more of a high alert.
(04:52):
If that's some uncertain person moved into our neighborhood and
it's do you make you or are you nice? Or
I mean, I don't know how to because I'm now
a little bit scared because of the things that I've
heard that are not great? Or do you petition to
kick them out of the neighborhood? But can you even
(05:14):
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, you can't do that. You can't they we don't
have the power to.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I would never want a kid, but I'm just like, what,
what do you like? Do you talk to the kid
that's in high school? And I empathize and I want
to be there, but also the things that I've heard
is scary. They basically we were warned stay away, So
it's do we make ourselves? Does he?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Mike was like, do I talk to him? And but
I'm like, but I don't want him to get scared
and then do something to the house or or bully.
You know, our kids are young.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But it's just something to be aware of.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think, you know, I feel like you were going
to say something to the mom, which I was like,
I don't think you should say. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's one of those I want to where my heart is.
I want to kind of treat it as innocent until
proven guilty, but the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Cops have already been over there. They were already in.
He was already in like one of the other houses.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I understand that I met he seems so nice, but
when I I mean, my text for my friend was
stay away. He is bad news. He's the kid that
would potentially go into a school and do some bad
stuff and that terrifies me for you know, other people,
especially the other kids in the neighborhood. But I don't
want to be that person either. I would love to
(06:35):
be able to help, but then you also hear the
stories when you help, they are also the ones that
hurt you too.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So but no, it's just one of those things that you,
you know, you want to have a we have a
good heart about, but at the same time, ultimately you
have to protect your family and your kids. So it's
it's being able to be empathetic and helpful but also
keep our kids away. I think that's where we have
to stand with it. Yeah, we can be opened open
(07:02):
to it, but are not with our kids involved.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You know, my problem is my I play too much
scary movies in my head.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You did, I mean, you definitely go like worst case scenario.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I yeah, because our house is kind of like a
fish bowl. We don't have really many shades. So when
it's nighttime and he's gone, it's just you know that
movie Strangers where I feel like I'm just gonna look
to the to the all the open windows in the
house and just see these faces appear.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh gosh. And that's why we're having an alarm and
guns in the house.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And I know, but maybe shades. Maybe before you get
the alarm of the guns, get some shit.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I ask for shades, but Mike says it's going to
ruin the aesthetic of the house.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I put my foot down on that one.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I'm just like, give me some shades. I feel like
I'm in a fish bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's great natural light.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I wonder if there's a way to tint the windows.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, don't they have like the you can bring the
tinting down. There's like a sheet a tinted shade, or
you just hit a button that comes out.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Even having the reservoir above the windows wouldn't look at more.
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Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh Halloween week? Oh yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
What do you mean? What are we doing? We just
tried on our costumes, like we just but I appreciate
the the surprise factor, but we can't tell people what
we're doing yet. But again, I'm very much the family themed,
so everyone, we're all about the family theme. So we're
all a part of a princess fairy tale. We'll say that.
(10:18):
Would you like to guess?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I would like to guess because one year right after Brooklyn,
when my youngest was born, my daughter, my oldest was
snow white, and I was Prince Charming and my wife
was Doc and the little one was the tiny little
dwarf was a baby, was dopey and it was the cutest.
I'm going to send you that picture today because you
will know he's beautiful. Yeah, I'm going to send you that.
(10:41):
So I'm going to guess. Let me think you said
princess fairy tale?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Of course. Are you gonna tell me if I get
it right?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Or no? Sure?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, think about this.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You get one guess though, since you're doing that one guess,
you get one guess because you know, if not, you'll
keep going. And then if we told you that, we're
going to tell you.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That way right, Two boys and two girls? What? Oh? Yeah, okay,
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, here's what I'm saying. Okay, Elsa vir Janna Anna
for Jolee. Mike's gonna be uh what's his name? The
guy with the donkey.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Spen Christoph, Christoph. Yeah, you're gonna be Christoph and then Olaf.
That's the family right there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well you know what, I guess you don't follow us
on Instagram because Mike was a seven foot ole off
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Sorry we were yeah, we were frozen two years ago.
I ordered this off costume.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
By the way, you still have it because I want
you to surprise the kids.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
No, I wish.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Remember we left in La John.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Walked into Jolie's classroom. That would have been so good.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean, I'll reorder it. Anyways, Mark, I found this
costume from straight up from China, got it two years ago,
sent to our house in La It was a legit, legit.
I mean the head was like three feet high itself
and I'm six foot five, so I was literally nine
feet tall. Huge round costume, legs, slippers, everything. We go
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to Luca Lake to trick or treat, which you know
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Place to go. Oh oh yeah, they're showing me a picture. Now, wow,
you are tall.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And the best part about it, Mark, walking through to
Luca Lake, I mean you would have thought I was
paid to be there. Everyone wanted a picture with me.
It was a it was a meet and Greek was
a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
He was I mean everyone was high fiving him, and
it was it was that will go down.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean it's hard to beat that.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
It is real hard to beat that. But now I
love that.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I know. Do you still have it?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No, it's literally it's humongous. So we threw it away
in LA because we already did it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You can't even have shades. I could you have a
giant Olaf costume of that house?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't know. It's too big.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But it's gonna be fun though. Oh it'll be Jason's
first Halloween. He's gonna be so cute. Oh, he's the
best friend. He's almost walking. Hey Easton, what's up with
the crocs?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
What's what's up with the crocs?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Well it's c October.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Is that a thing? Or is that a thing that
you made up?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
It's a thing.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
It's it's it's a thing that croc Crocs made it up.
But I'm celebrating it in a.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Really big way. Do you have Crocs on?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I don't have crocs on at the moment because I'm
at work and I'm a professional and Crocs.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Are a leisure shoe I was wearing.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I've been wearing them a lot this month, though.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, I saw you hiking with them, and I was like,
I don't know if you should be hiking with Crocs
on I mean, I love Crocs. Jolie calls them her
alligator shoes, but I mean, you've really every time I've
watched your stories this week or this month, it's been
c October.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah, I've a you know, I was gonna do every
night of the month. I was going to profile a
different pair of Crocks for my collection, but I only
have three. I ran out of ideas after day three.
But I you know, I took it as a creative
challenge and I've just been doing original Croc content every
single day of the month.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's huge.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Any fine heard from Crocs?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah, I've been messing with CROs. I've been trying to
get Crocs. I don't want like money or anything. I
just want them to know that I'm a passionate fan
and I have some questions for them. Actually, I've been
trying to get them to interview with me. No no answer,
no answer. And then finally Ben Higgins from the Almost
Famous podcast reposted one of my stories and Crocs came
reaching out.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Wow huge, your celebrity.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Hey I'm just trying to spread the good word. Crocs
are a comfortable shoe.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Did anyone read the Kanye West story? By the way?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes? Yeah? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
What are hey, Tory? Do you want to give the
brief rundown of what the article said?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah, So basically it's him kind of saying that he's
redirecting his life. There was a lot in the article
about him like starting a church, doing a faith based
Christian album, but his struggle with sex addiction has been
something he's been dealing with for a really long time,
and so he's been opening up about that and basically,
(15:00):
I don't know, I just I think it's a really
interesting article to hear that Kanye West, and I guess
that he's kind of opened up about it prior. I
was looking at some other articles, but it was never
to this extent of him being like, here's where I'm
at and here's where I struggle with and yeah, so
that's basically kind of a little when you read it too, right, Mite.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, The thing is it's Kanye West. So I feel
like anything he says kind of has to be taken
with a grain of salt. Why because he just he
says outlandish thing and outlandish things, and he just has
is he still.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Running for president? Didn't say he was running sween twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Exactly my point. Okay, So the fact that that even
came out of his mouth, it's hard to take everything
he says. And you know, if he claims that he
suffers from sex addiction, then you.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Know that may that's such a that's such a big
thing to just come out and say, right, I mean,
that would be kind of It's.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Kind of like when Dax Shepherd said something about that
and he said, I used to suffer from sex addiction.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He said that, yeah, well, if you're a sex addict
use right, I know.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But and he's even I'm pretty sure he's in a
twelve step program for drugs or something like that. But
so it's I don't know. It's just one of those
things that as someone who's open and out about it,
it's frustrating at times because I feel like in situations
like this, it's just it just feels thrown.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Around almost if they're not making it. Because when you say,
like I use, when Dak says like I used to
be a sex addict, that's almost devaluing what the addiction
is from someone who has a big platform to be
able to talk about addictions. So saying, like I used to,
that means that you can just get over sex addiction,
which that's not true. When you're an addict, you're always
(16:45):
an addict, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean maybe his not to make this about Dax,
but maybe his thing was more of something else alcoholic
drugs or something that was and maybe the sex aspect
was just a product of that. So I can understand
maybe someone folks seen more on another addiction if they
if they qualify for multiple addictions. Okay, so I can
understand that. Okay, maybe that's what he was saying. Okay,
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But for like Kanye West, it's you know, it's just like, yeah,
I you know, suffer from sex iction two and then
what he's talking about with just a playborn magazine out
and and everything, he doesn't really talk anymore about it.
It's just I don't know. Again, it's Kanye. It's kind
of confusing. I'm just afraid of someone just saying it
(17:32):
just to say it, but not understanding or not living
in recovery, or just saying that was a part of
their life at some point, because it doesn't say anything
that he currently still does, or he goes to meetings
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So it's just I don't know, do you think people
can recover from sex addiction? Like when people say that, so,
I think Jada Pinkett also, I don't want to misquote her.
I believe she also said too that she had a
sex addiction.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
She had, I don't. I don't see how it's a
past tense thing. It's an addiction, just like anything anything else.
People don't say I was an alcoholic, right.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean, I agree with you, Yeah, No, So, I
mean I.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Think that's just a little frustrating because again of someone
who's trying to, you know, educate people out there that
it is a real thing. When it's thrown around like that,
it just feels like it's undermining it, for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, And you're right about the doubt, and he might
have realized, Okay, this is where the actual, the stronger
addiction is, for sure, and that could have maybe played
a part of it with the sex. But to say
to say that, especially when sex addiction is still not
a accepted.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Super socially accepted, accepted addiction.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, it's hard when known or talked about.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
When people are just kind of throw it around, especially
people in the limelight or whatever it's. It just kind
of gives me a bad taste in my mouth because
I'm like, you're not helping the cause, you're not helping anything.
Because then next thing, you know, is it is it
going to turn into some fad right you know where
just nowadays people are more open or there's more you know,
(19:07):
sexual controversy and headlines a lot with me too stuff
and abuse and all this, and it's oh, well sex.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Addiction, And then you can say and then yeah, the
part is saying like, but I'm not anymore. It's like, no,
you still an addiction is something that you have to
continue to work on because when you start to become weaky,
I think that's what scares me. Two when people are like,
but I'm in control of it now, well you need
to have those steps right to be able to continue
to not let it overpower you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, I mean that's what that's my belief. If someone
else believes that there's a cure to addiction, then okay, fine,
but there isn't anybody that in any kind of twelve
step program out there is going to say that anything
else works other than twelve steps. No, one else, No
one in twelve Steps thinks say anything.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And you're not more powerful. You're not more powerful than
the disease or not at all. Yeah, because you may
feel that you're healthy right now in this moment, but
come if you don't practice it and practice the twelve steps,
you're going to end up maybe falling back to the
addiction for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I mean some things may seem simpler than others
to change about your life. I mean there's some aspects
of you know, me being the program that are easier
to handle than they used to be. But that's because
I'm being you know, deeper and deeper into recovery. But
it's as we saw with recent events, it's still there's
still things looming that I have to continue to work
(20:32):
through and you know, get by. So yeah, just I
don't know, it's just again it's Kanye West. Who knows
what he's gonna come out and say next week. You
know that he wants to be the pope or something.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So did he ever say anything about the twenty twenty
election that he remember how he's made a whole thing
about it.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I think he has it a while, you know, he
said on E actually on the E article that he
still has something planned, Like he's still planning his campaign,
is what it said. So I feel like this guy
has a whole family. He has what four or five kids. Now,
I don't see him coming out and saying, hey, I'm
a sex addict just to make a point and like
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be Kanye West. I think that's him kind of being like,
here's where I was and now he's like starting a church.
He obviously it sounds like he found he has a
relationship with God now that has like really changed his life.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And I just feel like.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Why are we Why are we trying to judge the
way he's telling his story, Like it may not be
on a podcast, it may not be in a sit
down interview, but to him, this is him expressing something
because he has like kids.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Again, you know, he's not going.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
To just see somebody says a sex addict or is
he says on a sex addiction from age till now
having to kick the habit. It just presents itself in
the open like it's okay, and I stand up.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
For it, and you know it says he's more addicted
to inspiration as much as he is.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
In this set, I could have been like he.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Says he's addicted to porn and that could have been
something that inspired his music and now he wants to
change that direction.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, I think you know what I mean, How I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'll at you because you're in a great point, toy,
and I totally understand that. Again, unfortunately, because it's Kanye West,
and because he's had periods of just outlandish comments and
everything where it's until there's consistency, it's hard for me
personally to believe what he's saying or that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
If I think what you're saying too is because of
the sex addiction not being a very socially accepted addiction
yet that it's just like, oh I was one and
maybe I'm not now, which is not the true sex addiction.
That's not right.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, again, that's fine if he's if he's saying he's
changing his ways and all that, because he is a
family man and he's a man of God and all that.
I'm not questioning that. Just don't just don't throw something
on top of it, and obviously it impacts me more personally.
Don't throw something like an addiction on top of it.
If you're not gonna take it seriously. And you're just
(23:04):
gonna kind of throw it, oh yeah and just shake
my life and uh yeah, sex addiction. But it was
my inspiration. Like you said, why, it's like, wait what,
Hey're just going to go right over that.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Every time he talks, I say, wait what, so exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I'm kind of I think it was pretty cool for
him to open up with it being the Kardashians, because
I think that's a very interesting dynamic to have your
wife be kind of a sex symbol and then have
him open them up on that.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think it's a very interesting dynamic. Yeah, I'm just
more curious to understand the what he meant by either
he was or he is, because I think that's that's
the big difference. And that's where I would have more
of an opinion too, because I do know that, like
you have to be in the program and working it
so to maybe hear more on that. But again, it's
his how he shares it. And yeah, let's try to
(23:52):
get him on book. Sure, Yeah, we're got that.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We'll have a talk with tell shre heally we need
to hold off. We we're gonna get Kanye West said, all.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Right, well let's take a quick break and do some emails. Yes,
do all right, Mark, We have any emails.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Got some good ones this week. This is from V.
She's wondering if she's a bad person, and he hears why.
I'm separated and single and I've been seeing someone on
and off since my separation.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
We've been intimate.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I'm starting to grow feelings for him, but he's technically
my husband's cousin by marriage, not a blood relative, and
my husband's cousin by marriage. I feel like I'm doing
something wrong by seeing him, But at the same time,
I like spending time, and the time we do spend
together is wonderful. We get along great. I'm smiling the
entire time I'm with him. Am I horrible for continuing
to see him? The chemistry's there. I don't want to stop,
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but maybe I should stop now before it gets even
more serious.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Or maybe I just see where things.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Go wait time out. Is she married still or that's
her separation.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
She's not divorced, are they?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
They're separate, but they're getting divorced.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
She did not say that necessarily.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In my opinion, this might be the the not the
popular opinion. I think you should wait until you get divorced,
especially since it's a family person. But I think you
like who you like and if the.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
End day, of course it's okay to date your ex
husband's cousin.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm not saying it's okay. I'm saying I think it's
okay to like who you like and your feelings. You know,
that's just like I mean, look at Shanaia Twain is
married to her best friend's husband and they swapped basically husbands.
When you're so close with and I'm sure there's so
many times when someone has fallen in love with their brother,
their their husband's brother because you're so close with them,
you know them, you get them, you have this connection.
(25:44):
But because it is family, that could get really bad.
I don't think she's a bad person. I think that's
normal to have feelings because you're so close with these people,
especially with women, because they have that emotion, they're more
emotionally connected to people. So I just think that maybe
you should should hold off until you guys get divorced
and then have a conversation, but don't do it in secret,
(26:05):
in secrecy, because that'll then drive more of a wedge
in the family. That's my unpopular position.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Who I'm trying to I'm trying to do the family
tree here. A cousin for a cousin by marriage, So
let's talk that out.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Hmmm. That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Because I would think the way I would the way
it sounds to me, is that it would be Okay,
it's his cousin's husband or something. Right, So right if
unless he's married and having an affair with with her,
the one who emailed us, how else would it be
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his cousin by marriage?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It could be his cousin by marriage.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
See what I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It's confusing, and there's such a thing as.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know it would be.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It would be like if if my cousin Eric, it
would be his cousin through marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Be Jessica, Right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So like you dating Jessica.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But but Jessica is married to Eric. That's how she's
a cousin.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Maybe they're separated and get a divorce, might see my
point here, But we don't know that backstory that's true.
Can you mean us again next week?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, we might need some more information on this, but
also more information. I mean, the heart wants what it
wants is a very convenient excuse the people for really
horrible decisions, right.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
But.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yes, and it's also the heart is something you should
always listen to.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
But you know, there's so many questions you can go
so deep with this is okay? Is the attraction to
the cousin by marriage? Is that maybe part of what
causes separation without the husband knowing, you know what I mean?
Like why are they separated? Are they in agreement that
why they're separated that they can see other people? Are
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they living under the same roof? Like, there's a lot
of questions to know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
How close is your husband with this cousin by marriage,
because some cousins are like brother and sister and some
like I have cousins, I wouldn't know if they walk
past me on the street.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh see my first cousins there, they're like my brother
and sister.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Same. Yeah, we're very close first cousins. We both grew
up the same way, where like our first cousins were
like our siblings.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, because the street.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah yeah. So there's just a lot of questions here
on what to know. I think ultimately, again it's it
depends on if you handle this situation with integrity, then
it doesn't have to be that bad. So again, if
her and the current separated husband under agreement of what
they can do, what the boundaries are right now while
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they're separated, if when they do get divorced, she doesn't
be sneaky about it, and she explains that this is
the person that she's seen.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So I think it's also a female thing too. And
we always said this in our relationship. If I was
ever too cheat, it'd be some close to us, right,
because I'm just that emotional that I'm more of an
emotional cheater, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think that is more of a woman thing and guys,
at least from me maybe, but for me personally, that
would make me uncomfortable if it was somebody that we knew.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Mark, all right, this is from Callen. I'm super close.
This is actually actually flows nicely from that one. I'm
super close with my parents, my brother, my extended family, cousins, aunts,
and uncles. My fiance is from a broken family and
only talks to them a few times a month. I
talk with my family multiple times a day. We've been
living together for four years. I moved across the country
with him, and now we're engaged. He still he still
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feels like he's second to my family. I want him
to feel like he's my priority.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
He is.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm absolutely in love with him, but I don't want
to change the relationship with my family to prove it.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I don't think she has to.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
She shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
No, No, just include him. So if you're having family
this is something that I'll say, you know, if they're
having family group messages, just include him in the text message,
include him in the family messages. And I think that
could help him feel a part of things. I know
it always a part of things when i'm when you know,
your mom includes me in the messages, and probably vice versa.
(30:13):
We don't really do group messages on my side, but
you know, I think that would help maybe that situation.
But I don't think she should ever stop.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No and just to and just I can understand his
insecurity because he doesn't have that relationship, so.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It's probably more to interface.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's foreign. It's foreign to him. So if she just
continues to include him, like janas saying, then also reassure him, hey,
you are my family, You are a part of this family,
like this is you know, everybody loves you too, or
just something to kind of make him feel better or
more comfortable around.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It, but also to have empathy for what he doesn't.
He didn't doesn't and didn't have too, so to be like,
you know that must because I think that's more self
reflection on his part, while he's maybe projecting it is because.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He didn't have because he's insecure about it. He didn't
have it. That's and yeah, and for he should definitely
try to embrace it and maybe change his mindset. Because
for me, I know, just even from dating people, you know,
as a young adult or younger person, I always knew
I wanted my future wife to have like an awesome family.
So I wanted great in laws. I wanted I love
(31:18):
spending time with my significant other. And so like Mary
and Janna, I like hit a home run with that
because I love her family. I love the things we
all do together. We have so much fun, and like that.
I've always wanted that. That's something that's always been important
I valued. So I mean that's something he should definitely
try to embrace, like you're saying, Mark, and just like
enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So if my family sucked you and married.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Me, no, I'm not saying that. It was just definitely
something that was important to me that I wanted to
be able to have in laws, not just in laws,
but in law family. Yeah, a fun family that enjoyed things,
and I mean, we have so much fun every time
we get together.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I have one more, really juicy one about infertility. But
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Speaker 4 (34:01):
Can you wait till I do one more email? And
then oh yeah for Jordan.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
This is from Christine. My husband and I've been married
for almost three years and together almost eleven. We've been
trying to get prgened for a year and a half.
After the year mark, I'm thirty one, we went to
a fertility specialist. He had a semen analysis and I
had an HSG and several other tests. The results came
back that I'm good. His overall sperm count is good,
but the viable sperm are very low. So we've started
(34:29):
talking about artificial insemination, but he doesn't want to go
that way. Every cycle we get another negative test and
we're both devastated and he feels like it's his fault.
I do my best not to blame him, but the
clock is ticking and he's still not coming around. To insemination.
I met a lost. I met a loss. There's nothing
in this world that I want more than to be
a mom. And adding to it, we're getting immense pressure
(34:49):
from his mother to have kids. She's very negative to
him and nasty to me about it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh well, that's awful that the in laws are pressuring,
especially when it's already such a stressful situation to begin with.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, it's unfair, Michael.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Let you speak on this because I know that you
had a tough time with all of this.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I mean I personally didn't have a tough time.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
You did with the playing like God and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Oh yeah, well yeah, but that's also because my account
was fine, so there wasn't an issue there. But I
can I definitely empathize with him because you know, when
it comes to pregnancy and stuff, essentially we have one job,
right and from a scientist scientific point of view, we
(35:34):
have one job, and when we aren't able to do
that job, if we aren't able to do that job,
I can imagine that feeling really degrading as a man,
being like, man, this is the one thing I have
to do to give you a child, and I can't
do that. So if he's able to look at it
from a different mindset and just be like, you know what,
(35:57):
this is just a different way I can give my
wife the gift of of a child. I would do
whatever it took. Ultimately, Sure it weigh on me a
little bit, but just changing my mindset and being like, well,
this is what I have to do. I want a
family with you, you want to be pregnant, you want a child.
Let's do this. However we have to do it. Granted
we had option to do artificial insemination when we did IVF.
(36:20):
That was a little different.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
That's more.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Is that what they're talking about doing or is it
just like turkey based?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think both.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So what I didn't like about the IVF thing is
when they took one individual sperm and injected in the egg.
I liked it where they basically put a syringeful's sperm
in the petri dish with the egg against like let
the best man win. I didn't like selecting one sperm.
That's when I felt like it was playing god because
the sperm that was supposed to go maybe wasn't that one.
(36:51):
But with if it's just still you can still artificially
inseeminate by not doing that. So I don't think that's
necessarily necessary an issue with playing god. I think you
got to do what you gotta do to get pregnant.
And if they've tried this much and they felt that devastation,
then it's like, hey, this is what I have to do.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Mm hm, I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So, but it's right, he's going to feel like a failure.
I think that's what he's going through, is the feeling
like a failure. And if you do the art insemination,
you've given up, like it's like so many people surrendering.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
So many people have to though, and so hopefully he
can get past that to know that it's not just
him that deals with this.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, everyone's going to know. If you guys have a
baby together, you don't have to announce in the birth
announcement that she was done via artificial insemination. No one
has to know that except you and.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Your wife, right, And I bet the statistics are a
lot higher now too with people that have to do that. Sure,
Oh definitely, it's not like it's probably close to fifty,
I would think.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And I think what he needs to also maybe to
help his mindset is to realize, well, like for me,
I would rather it be me than Jana because the
women feel so much pressure, right, because that's literally like
what women maybe think they were put on this earth
to do was to bear a child. Right, So I
(38:08):
can't imagine the height and emotions that a woman may
feel if they're not able to be fertile and have kids.
So as a man, it's like, I'll I'll take that
burden for you. If it was on me, cool, great,
I'll do whatever I have to do to give you
a child. Because I don't. I wouldn't want Janet to
feel that. So for him, he should be like, you
know what, better me than you. I got you money,
(38:29):
whatever we have to do, I got you. I'm just
glad it's not you. You don't have to deal with this.
Let me take this burden and let me give your
child in any way that I can. So if he
can change his mindset like that and just just still
be able to show it for her, I think he
would have a much better time mentally and emotionally processing it.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I mean, I was super off on the percentage. It's
only two percent, but still I think that's still two percent.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Is artificial insamdation.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
The and the centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports
about four million births per year in the US, meaning
one to two percent of all US berths are in nually,
are or are via IVF.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Really wow, that seems very.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Shockingly low in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
But yeah, but there's also like three hundred and fifty
million people in this country. So think about the two
percent of that, and then it takes us back to
the other one. There's three hundred and fifty million people
in this country. Maybe you don't have to date your
husband's cousin wait to bring you back. There is love.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Love is love. Oh what a good note. I love
you guys. Happy Halloween.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Be safe out there.
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