June 18, 2025 • 28 mins
As a single parent, when is the best time to introduce your kids to your partner?? Jana and Allan reveal how they decided to introduce each other to their families, and we hear how they handled the challenge of waiting for the "perfect moment".
Jana takes us into her relationship with Allan's son, and how she's stepped into life as a stepmom.
Plus, Allan lets us know what he REALLY thinks about Jana kissing her co-stars while filming a romantic movie!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Interesting topic, David Harber says he's tried dating normal people
in his early twenties, but they don't get his life
as an actor. So David Harber was talking about his
dating history during a conversation with Scarlett Johansson, who also
said that she tried dating someone more normal.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
What she says she said?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She said dating men outside of Hollywood cause jealousy since
actors get very intimate. So she said, I've had serious
relationship with people that were not in the industry, and
I found one of the challenges was that the person
had no idea of what I needed to do my job. Obviously,
if I was dating an oncologist, I wouldn't know what
they needed to do for their job. But it's not
(00:50):
so abstract. Also went on to say, I think it's
easy to create a lot of jealousy when a person
is not involved in the industry because actors by nature
are very free speed and they create very intimate relationships
with people at work. They can be loyal to a
partner and also very engaged in all these other kind
of relationships. I think that can blur lines for some people.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I love one of the questions in this because it
was alan, is Janna the first actress you've dated? It's
like the first question I popped.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was like, Oh, it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's not Tell Tell not Talen.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean, would we say that that one was an
actual relationship though?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, that was just like a fun little hook up.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Okay, pass, Yeah, I mean it was absolutely not relationship.
Yeah that was Yeah, it's not even more discussing, but yeah, no,
you're not the first actress that dated. But I don't
I don't see people as like see this quote here,
of dating normal people. Yeah, like the fine define normal.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
An oncologist not a normal job, a teacher.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Because they're not in the lime light makes them normal.
And I think it's I think it's I see your point.
It's kind of the crying of their profession and the
and demeaning of their not demeaning, but it's almost like, oh,
it's only an ecologist, and an oncologist is an important
(02:31):
job very and not by no means a normal person.
So I think the definition of what normal is is
it's different just because someone is an actress and they're
in the limelight, or an actor they're in the limelight.
It doesn't I don't think they can quote other people
as normal.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I I am, I agree with. I totally hear what
you're saying. Yeah, Like, I definitely hear what you're saying.
Having said that, I do think there's a bit of
abnormality with our jobs. Like an oncologist is not kissing
random co workers, I hope not. Let's just let's just
(03:15):
start with that.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I hope they aren't, do you know what I mean?
A doctor isn't having a with people at walk I
hope not. Again, let's just go to straight up, I
hope not. So that's where I think it doesn't make
it a normal quote unquote job.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I totally hear what you're saying that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, I just don't like the phrase normal.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Sure, I it is a it is a I mean,
I guess what would be the work because I totally
hear what you're saying, and I wish there was a
better word too, Yeah, because I totally get it, Like
just oh, just because you're a teacher, that makes you normal,
Like no, no, you have a very important job of
teaching kids. And you have like that's that's not and
(03:55):
to me, like that would be a really hard job.
I couldn't imagine the patients that teachers have, so that's
that would be a really hard job. I would say,
we're warning but hard. But again with acting, it is so.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The things that we have to do are not typical
to what other professions would do, hopefully during during their
work hours. It shouldn't be what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think there's a part of my profession where people
have a judgment and people have an opinion because I
train higher level players and stuff like that. Granted I'm
not guessing.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
My clients again, I hope not.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So that dynamic is different. Sure, absolutely. Did you find
that hard to date normals normals?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I think it's difficult at times for sure, because
they don't understand like you really you know, we've had
this conversation so many times on here about intimate scenes,
I mean to you know, to the we don't even
need to discuss it again, like we know we're you
stand on it. So you know, it is a lot
easier to date an actor who understands that piece of it,
(05:10):
you know, because we are so and that's I think
even when you came to visit me on this last set,
we are around the opposite sex in a different in
a more intimate way in scenes and then hanging out
with them when the cameras are. But also you see
the it's not in a a lot of times like
(05:31):
word she says, She's like, the lines can be blurred. Absolutely,
they can for sure get blurred. But there's also a
piece where when you are in a respectful marriage and.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You can see the red stump to fell off in
my eyes. Here, why as the devil takes over me?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
No, like you know, different situation. You know with this
obviously I'm not single onset you.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Can get blood. How can the lanes get blowed?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, because you're around the person so much so if
you're single and you're with this person all day long.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But as i your.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Shingle does nothing to blur your single you can do
the hell you want anyway. So where's the blood lines?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The blurred lines are You're it's you're at summer camp
and you're blurring professionalism. Just like in any job, really
you can blur lines. But I think with this situation,
it's you know, you're around the people. But you see,
when you're around the people a lot too, you can
get annoyed to them as well. I'm like, you know,
and where I'm now, it's a I just like to
(06:30):
kind of be alone because I show up, I do
my work, I want to go home.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You can like someone at first and like the company
being around, and then day three or four like pain
in the ass, can't be asked, get me away from
this person. Yeah, because you spent so much time with them.
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But I do see where lines can get blurred. But
I think it is easier. I have a question about
the person that you how many how long did you
date that actress?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And then there's only one day?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You only one in one day?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I think she still follows you on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Every time we see her, like perfume Ad, I'm like, hey, bebe.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You want to be with you? Remember that could have
been you. It didn't bother you that she was an actress.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
No, And when it when it comes to you, like
there's a question here about dating you and you was
it difficult dating you because you were an actress? I
don't see people as their jobs or their titles. I
never have and never will. Does it. Did it make
a difference to me that you were an actress or
(07:37):
a singer or a heart surgeon or No? Absolutely not,
and it doesn't. I've never been one for Okay, this
person's got a title this. But I'm just like, I
try and if you're a good person, then I try
and get on with you. I never seen you as
I've never been like, I'm dating an actress. M that's
(07:59):
not who I am.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So you wouldn't have cared if I was. I don't
know what if I when you saw me on my
on the page right, that's how I share.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You will not actous because I don't need to deal
with a incussing scenes.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
No, I want you to be an anxious because you
love doing that. Yeah. Yeah, don't get me.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Don't mistake yeah, because that'll be a headline.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I do think it is is difficult, though, to date
people that they just don't understand, just like I wouldn't
understand like she said, I wouldn't understand what for example,
professional athlete, you know you're coaching if you were to
do well you were yeah, you know, And so I
don't I didn't know much about soccer, I didn't know
much of the coaching life being ten months away, Like
(08:57):
there are things that I sure because if they're not
used to that lifestyle, it's it's hard for people.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, I think there's also there's the unknown, Like don't
I don't really know what it's like on a set
with you and other people. So when I first started
dating you, I was like, what does that look like?
What you like on set? What are the other people like?
How does it function? How does it flow? And then
the more that I got to be on set and
be around people who like the more maybe you'll agree
(09:30):
and maybe you want, but the more comfortable I am
with you being on set now because the fear of
the unknown is kind of diminished because I know roughly
what it looks like on set. I know how you
acquit yourself on set and how professional and how respectful
you are to us, So the fear of the unknown
hasn't really there anymore. Do I love you being on
(09:51):
set with guys? And of course I don't a human being,
I've got feelings and fears, and but.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You see now kind of the you've done what a
couple you know? Five plus movies now with me, so
you can see that it's the same recipe in the
same wheel, and it's you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Know, it's the process is pretty much the same.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What it is every time each one.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, Yeah, do I get? Do I get? You know
what I'm like the like I don't get jealous, But
also I also need to lock eyes on the person
that you're as your co star in the movie and
be like, I need to figure this person out, and
then once I figure them out, I'm more comfortable.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Would you get Yeah, I think I think you want
to have that handshake with the dude, do Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And I think there's only been one you haven't liked.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, And it's not that I didn't like him. I
just knew what he could have been in the background.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Anyway, not that I dislike him, because I think he's
actually good at what he does and he was excellent
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But I think that goes to anything like you want
to feel comfortable around your Like I would want to
feel comfortable with who you're working with, And I think
that's typical for a spouse to want to meet the person.
And that's why I've been so like every time I'm like, hey,
my mission always at first it's like for you to
meet the person so you can see and have that
(11:19):
connection and comfortability with them, and that's important to me,
so that you're comfortable too.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, and I won with old guys so.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean you did coach for a women's team there
for the first year.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But I again, it's about who you're with, right, So
like in past lives with relationships, I would not have
trusted that person to work on an all girls team
with you. I'm like, have fun in Kansas, you know,
like there's no I trusted you with being around a
team of girls. Yeah, every week for how long?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Nine months? Ten months?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's a couple of days a week. No, it wasn't
that long. Was five months?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well even so like a week for five months.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I was so comfortable because I trust you, and
I think at the end of the day you can
see the difference, like I was.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's a great example.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I was showing him a instagram of someone that I've
been in a movie with, and I said, this is
how I used to.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Be with my co stars.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I showed you a video of somebody on Instagram of
them like this is how I was like, babe, this
is how I used to be on socials and you know,
because I just was like, ah, like just we are
just more free. But it does come off as quite
inappropriate if you're in a relationship, but I never saw
(12:48):
it that way.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, listen. Also depends in the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would like to instagram that's but I don't want
to make you uncomfortable. Like so there's times when I
would have maybe wanted to more, but I'm like, oh,
I don't want to make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What depends what you're doing in the Instagram video, Like
that particular video you showed me the guys like hugging
this woman. I'm like, i'd have been like I being
straight on the phone. You know, Okay you then is
it April Fool's Day? Get that down right now? I
can get back. Yeah, I just spoke to the director.
(13:27):
You've got three days off, even even even stuff like
you're good with so when you're prepping for the movie,
and also you have to speak to the directors, you
have to touch base with possibly other actors, and you're
good with me, Like, listen, this person, this text me,
this person wants my number? Are you okay with it? So?
(13:47):
I think the respect around it is. Is it a
really high level?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah? Yeah, I always am like because I want you
to feel you know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And you also don't want an angry Scott's and coming
on to sit.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, stop it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You wouldn't, okay, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Topic number two introducing kids to new partners, So lake
Bell reveals parameters for introducing kids to new partners. She
is open about co parenting her two kids to ex
husband Scott Campbell, and that includes how the two navigate
dating as single parents.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So she has.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Basically said that usually if she's hanging around someone for
five or six months and they've shown that they care
about meeting them, like okay, sometimes it happens a little
sooner because if the people have kids, then you know,
if the kids don't get along, that's kind of disastrous.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
When you got did anyone? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I answered my own question in my brain? That did
not end well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I was gonna say, did you introduce someone post divorce?
How was there a timeline for you in your brain?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Was there a timeline in my brain?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And this is not about me?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
No, no, no, it's nothing to you, was there a
timeline in my brain? I was. I was fueled by
I was probably fueled by anger at that point in
my life, where.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I think that's true for a lot of co parenting situations.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I was fueled by anger and resentment. And if I
was to do it again, I would have done it.
I would have done that differently, absolutely, and I would
have I would have waited longer, and I would have
put Troy's feelings in it first. So yeah, I have
a regret around that. Absolutely I would have I would
(15:44):
have waited and had more composure around it rather than
fuel emotions around it, and like I had to do
somewhat something to get one over someone else. Yeah, not
handled it wrong? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Where does that sit with you?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Now?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It's it sets fine. I've had the discussion with Roy
on it, like a few years back, and and I've
apologized how or how I did that and given reasons
felt why I did it and there were wrong reasons.
So yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Do you think is the best like tip then for
people that are coming out of a divorce when it
involves kids and having new relationships, Because I do I've
always agreed, like when we've spoken about it, there is
a piece where you are allowed to have your happiness
and your Obviously it wasn't to end up with but
(16:44):
I think there's like this push and pull between you,
you wanting a new start, and but also it's hard
when maybe they don't, when they don't mesh with the kids,
that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, I think I think the biggest thing for me
is the kids will tell you yeah, the kids will
let you know you like you don't have to continually
ask them and should never feel pressured by the other
person saying well, what's the problem when we're going to
meet the kids, Like it should always be about okay,
this is and I think it should almost be the
(17:22):
kids should depend on these The kids should come to
you and say, look that I'm ready to meet this
person who's in your life. And I think that's probably
the best way to do it, because anything else is
is your agenda being pushed on the children, which is yeah,
I have regrets around that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, well we and I've always kind of had like
a it's so hard to put a time limit on
on it, right, like obviously the short like the very beginning,
the first few months.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I don't think it's appropriate.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But if things are progressing, especially if they have kids,
you know, I think you have to feel it out.
There have been obviously I wish I didn't introduce the
kids to you know, post, but that was I Again,
I think when you're in that place of hurt and
(18:14):
you're wanting to move on, it's messy. It gets a
little messy.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, of course it does.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And even though I.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Tried going about it the right way, it's still they
go back and be like, oh, that's a bummer. Now
luckily learn from that made better choices post. And you know,
trying to get the co parent to agree on proper
timing is also really hard, and.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I think how you do it is also important. There's
the timing of it, and then that's how Then that's
how you do it and where you do it, and
the environment and what you do it and so that
the kids feel safe that they can leave that environment.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well yeah, and I think with this situation too, like
even when I was flying over to to didn't to
come see you. You were very much like, you know,
I'm spending time with Troy, and I need you know,
I'll see you this is when you leave. Because it
was we had to because because you learned the lesson,
I guess on the last one. But he found out yea,
(19:17):
which is funny, Like he was the one that actually
found out before you even told him.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He actually he actually told me this story of how
he found out. I'm mortified of him reading a Little
Brown Mortified to this day, Like every time he tries
to bring him up, I'm like, no, left in my room.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I die so mortifying.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like I was like, no, no, no, we're not talking about it.
Like I wrote a diary because we spent so much
time apart that I thought it would be sweet when
we didn't talk, because there's because of the time difference.
I wrote essentially a journal of things that I was feeling.
And oh my god, this is so she's a caam.
I'm saying this well, and and I sent it to
(20:05):
you and and then it was basically one of the
things where then you can write and then send it back.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I never got it back.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's fine, But did I even know it was there?
Troy probably found it before. What do you mean, did
John know thing?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I sent it to you? You opened it?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Oh, the one in a little Brown book? Yeah, a
nice lettle book that is still cherish in the drawer.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, the whole point was like to send it, to
write it back and forth.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, I get that memo.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah you know you never sent it back. It's fine,
it's all good. But in there I put my Christmas
card of me and the kids. Okay, and that's when
he saw it. Okay kids, Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Told me that. That wasn't that long ago that you
told me that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, and I was in a hole. I was like,
please don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm not sure read every page.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Let's hope.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Now, how did you feel introducing me to Mike, to
Mike the kids or the kids and the kids? Like,
how did you approach it with Mike when you knew
(21:20):
you were going to introduce me to the kids?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We he was dating a girl around the same time
that we It was the same almost the same time
period where he was well, I'll say this, there was
a time or no, that was that after the next
time that didn't go well, Well.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Did you even think about it to who?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Like, oh, I'm very thought out now, I was after
the last time. I just like, I cannot mess this
up again, Like this has to be it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, So that's good information for people so based on
the fact that you messed one up and would have
done it differently, and I admit to the same, Yeah,
they've done it ferently. What did you? What did you do?
Definitely when I come onto the scene.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I knew that you were the one I was going
to marry like that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It was that potential where I wanted to then obviously
see how you mesh with my kids. It was to
that point, but just the other person that I knew
I wasn't going to and there were things that was
my mistake because I was wanting this made up story
(22:33):
in my brain of what that was. So with this situation,
I remember we were at I was going to because
we had been talking since October. So so October remember,
so it's been like it was like three months and
he was seeing a girlfriend. And I remember I was
going to Anguilla with Sarah Bryce and we were in
(22:58):
the airport at a Hudson News or whatever, and I
said hey, or I was just like talking to Mike
about something and he goes, hey, I want to talk
to you, and I knew it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I knew exactly what go say.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was like, I kind of do too, but I'll
let you go first, and he's like, you know, you know,
I've been talking to this person and you know, I
it's it's I know it's only been these many months,
but I would like to kind of introduce.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
And I said, totally cool, totally get it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I have also been thinking, are you cool, because you
know he's going to maybe be coming at the end
of you know, end of the month and in January
or whatever, so just be nice to you know, have
the meet because I think he's going to be moving
here the next couple of months.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I remember, sorry, I remember when I was coming over
and I was going to meet the kids. I remember
you saying to me, you're a little bit anxious, not
maybe not anxious, but I love that skeptical because we'd
been used to that point and you met you'd met
Troy at this point, but we'd been used to our time,
(24:04):
always been of our time, and you are a little
bit anxious around me coming over, and then the time
is split between Okay, there's going to be the kids
are going to be around, and we're not going to
have as much as much one to one time as
what we normally would have had. And I always trac
to pease, be like I understand the whole situation. Mm hmm,
(24:28):
Like I really know what to expect when I get there,
and I know how important your kids are to you,
so therefore.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, well that's the thing. It's like, even now to
this day where it's when Roman goes down, I'm like,
all right, kids, family game time, you know, and it's
like I am just laser focused on spending that time
with the kids, and it's like, what if, what if
this isn't the life that he does want? Like because
because I do come with two young ones, like you
you know, Troy is older, you know, and he's.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I was fifteen at the time, Jason still.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Tull up, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, so Mike is this and I think there's a
piece of that where you can say I'm to me
as many times, but until you're in the situation, is
he going to accept it's not just me, it's all
of us. And for a while it's just been me
and like cool, he accepts me and who I am,
but I'm not that I'm different around my kids, but
(25:23):
I am. I'm a mom and this is this is
actually like you've seen the the highlight reel when I
was in England, right because I had time to put
on makeup and I was I got to sleep and
I didn't have really responsibilities there. So when I was
in you know, when you come to home, it's like, okay,
(25:46):
this is this is a different Jamma than he's experienced,
and will he accept me and the two babes and
it went swimmingly. You were It was a it was
a very short meeting and I said, you know, this
is Alan and he lives over in England and trying
to explain that to them was so cute and so
but it went great and it was it was so good.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I think it's easier though, like to be to be
fair on you, it's easier for me to meet younger
kids than it was for you to meet boy.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, because it's not that it was hard to meet you, no,
no, no no.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But love him.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah. He's a teenager and he's got his own views,
his own opinions, and he's got his own mom who
he's been around for fifteen So it was more difficult
for you. Well, I would assume it was more difficult
for you.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I came from a I came from a divorced background, right,
and so when my dad started, It's like I don't.
I'm not looking for another mom. And again my kids
have their dad too, but you again see them more
than their dad. So you have such a big responsibility
and also love and all of it to be this
(27:00):
father figure in their life too. And for me it's
it was harder because I don't. I don't get to
see him as much as I would like to write.
And I just always just want to be at least,
you know, a friend and someone that was always there,
you know. But it is harder I think coming in older,
you know, with older, but as long as I remain
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you know who I want to be for him again,
he's got an amazing mom. He's got you like I don't.
I just am here as a friend and support.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I think nothing you do it well. I think he
knows he can have a laugh with you and listen.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I am the one where he can, you know, take
jokes at.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know what I mean, like tell you a little
yet won't tell me.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
That's because I'm the cool friend, you know what I mean,
like and the cool step you know step mom you know, right,
But like in that I always think of like, yes
I am a step mom, but I look at it
as like not the mom, but as a friend because
he's got, like I said, a great mom. So anyways,
good chat, follow your heart with it. You don't want
to evolving door, right, have people coming in and out.
(28:03):
I think it's important for kids to see their parents,
you know, maybe you know have relationships, but it doesn't
have to just be you know, with a romantic person.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It goes back to kids wants stability and safety. So
if you're constantly introducing different people, then doesn't it gives
a bad image of all that kids?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Right, So I would just for the people you know
going through that now, just to keep that in mind
and you know you're doing the best you can.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
We all make mistakes, clearly we have to.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So anyways, on that note, see you next week.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Interesting topic, David Harber says he's tried dating normal people
in his early twenties, but they don't get his life
as an actor. So David Harber was talking about his
dating history during a conversation with Scarlett Johansson, who also
said that she tried dating someone more normal.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
What she says she said?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She said dating men outside of Hollywood cause jealousy since
actors get very intimate. So she said, I've had serious
relationship with people that were not in the industry, and
I found one of the challenges was that the person
had no idea of what I needed to do my job. Obviously,
if I was dating an oncologist, I wouldn't know what
they needed to do for their job. But it's not
(00:50):
so abstract. Also went on to say, I think it's
easy to create a lot of jealousy when a person
is not involved in the industry because actors by nature
are very free speed and they create very intimate relationships
with people at work. They can be loyal to a
partner and also very engaged in all these other kind
of relationships. I think that can blur lines for some people.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I love one of the questions in this because it
was alan, is Janna the first actress you've dated? It's
like the first question I popped.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was like, Oh, it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's not Tell Tell not Talen.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean, would we say that that one was an
actual relationship though?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, that was just like a fun little hook up.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Okay, pass, Yeah, I mean it was absolutely not relationship.
Yeah that was Yeah, it's not even more discussing, but yeah, no,
you're not the first actress that dated. But I don't
I don't see people as like see this quote here,
of dating normal people. Yeah, like the fine define normal.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
An oncologist not a normal job, a teacher.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Because they're not in the lime light makes them normal.
And I think it's I think it's I see your point.
It's kind of the crying of their profession and the
and demeaning of their not demeaning, but it's almost like, oh,
it's only an ecologist, and an oncologist is an important
(02:31):
job very and not by no means a normal person.
So I think the definition of what normal is is
it's different just because someone is an actress and they're
in the limelight, or an actor they're in the limelight.
It doesn't I don't think they can quote other people
as normal.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I I am, I agree with. I totally hear what
you're saying. Yeah, Like, I definitely hear what you're saying.
Having said that, I do think there's a bit of
abnormality with our jobs. Like an oncologist is not kissing
random co workers, I hope not. Let's just let's just
(03:15):
start with that.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I hope they aren't, do you know what I mean?
A doctor isn't having a with people at walk I
hope not. Again, let's just go to straight up, I
hope not. So that's where I think it doesn't make
it a normal quote unquote job.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I totally hear what you're saying that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, I just don't like the phrase normal.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Sure, I it is a it is a I mean,
I guess what would be the work because I totally
hear what you're saying, and I wish there was a
better word too, Yeah, because I totally get it, Like
just oh, just because you're a teacher, that makes you normal,
Like no, no, you have a very important job of
teaching kids. And you have like that's that's not and
(03:55):
to me, like that would be a really hard job.
I couldn't imagine the patients that teachers have, so that's
that would be a really hard job. I would say,
we're warning but hard. But again with acting, it is so.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The things that we have to do are not typical
to what other professions would do, hopefully during during their
work hours. It shouldn't be what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think there's a part of my profession where people
have a judgment and people have an opinion because I
train higher level players and stuff like that. Granted I'm
not guessing.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
My clients again, I hope not.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So that dynamic is different. Sure, absolutely. Did you find
that hard to date normals normals?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I think it's difficult at times for sure, because
they don't understand like you really you know, we've had
this conversation so many times on here about intimate scenes,
I mean to you know, to the we don't even
need to discuss it again, like we know we're you
stand on it. So you know, it is a lot
easier to date an actor who understands that piece of it,
(05:10):
you know, because we are so and that's I think
even when you came to visit me on this last set,
we are around the opposite sex in a different in
a more intimate way in scenes and then hanging out
with them when the cameras are. But also you see
the it's not in a a lot of times like
(05:31):
word she says, She's like, the lines can be blurred. Absolutely,
they can for sure get blurred. But there's also a
piece where when you are in a respectful marriage and.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You can see the red stump to fell off in
my eyes. Here, why as the devil takes over me?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
No, like you know, different situation. You know with this
obviously I'm not single onset you.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Can get blood. How can the lanes get blowed?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, because you're around the person so much so if
you're single and you're with this person all day long.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But as i your.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Shingle does nothing to blur your single you can do
the hell you want anyway. So where's the blood lines?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The blurred lines are You're it's you're at summer camp
and you're blurring professionalism. Just like in any job, really
you can blur lines. But I think with this situation,
it's you know, you're around the people. But you see,
when you're around the people a lot too, you can
get annoyed to them as well. I'm like, you know,
and where I'm now, it's a I just like to
(06:30):
kind of be alone because I show up, I do
my work, I want to go home.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You can like someone at first and like the company
being around, and then day three or four like pain
in the ass, can't be asked, get me away from
this person. Yeah, because you spent so much time with them.
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But I do see where lines can get blurred. But
I think it is easier. I have a question about
the person that you how many how long did you
date that actress?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And then there's only one day?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You only one in one day?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I think she still follows you on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Every time we see her, like perfume Ad, I'm like, hey, bebe.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You want to be with you? Remember that could have
been you. It didn't bother you that she was an actress.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
No, And when it when it comes to you, like
there's a question here about dating you and you was
it difficult dating you because you were an actress? I
don't see people as their jobs or their titles. I
never have and never will. Does it. Did it make
a difference to me that you were an actress or
(07:37):
a singer or a heart surgeon or No? Absolutely not,
and it doesn't. I've never been one for Okay, this
person's got a title this. But I'm just like, I
try and if you're a good person, then I try
and get on with you. I never seen you as
I've never been like, I'm dating an actress. M that's
(07:59):
not who I am.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So you wouldn't have cared if I was. I don't
know what if I when you saw me on my
on the page right, that's how I share.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You will not actous because I don't need to deal
with a incussing scenes.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
No, I want you to be an anxious because you
love doing that. Yeah. Yeah, don't get me.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Don't mistake yeah, because that'll be a headline.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I do think it is is difficult, though, to date
people that they just don't understand, just like I wouldn't
understand like she said, I wouldn't understand what for example,
professional athlete, you know you're coaching if you were to
do well you were yeah, you know, And so I
don't I didn't know much about soccer, I didn't know
much of the coaching life being ten months away, Like
(08:57):
there are things that I sure because if they're not
used to that lifestyle, it's it's hard for people.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, I think there's also there's the unknown, Like don't
I don't really know what it's like on a set
with you and other people. So when I first started
dating you, I was like, what does that look like?
What you like on set? What are the other people like?
How does it function? How does it flow? And then
the more that I got to be on set and
be around people who like the more maybe you'll agree
(09:30):
and maybe you want, but the more comfortable I am
with you being on set now because the fear of
the unknown is kind of diminished because I know roughly
what it looks like on set. I know how you
acquit yourself on set and how professional and how respectful
you are to us, So the fear of the unknown
hasn't really there anymore. Do I love you being on
(09:51):
set with guys? And of course I don't a human being,
I've got feelings and fears, and but.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You see now kind of the you've done what a
couple you know? Five plus movies now with me, so
you can see that it's the same recipe in the
same wheel, and it's you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Know, it's the process is pretty much the same.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What it is every time each one.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, Yeah, do I get? Do I get? You know
what I'm like the like I don't get jealous, But
also I also need to lock eyes on the person
that you're as your co star in the movie and
be like, I need to figure this person out, and
then once I figure them out, I'm more comfortable.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Would you get Yeah, I think I think you want
to have that handshake with the dude, do Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And I think there's only been one you haven't liked.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, And it's not that I didn't like him. I
just knew what he could have been in the background.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Anyway, not that I dislike him, because I think he's
actually good at what he does and he was excellent
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But I think that goes to anything like you want
to feel comfortable around your Like I would want to
feel comfortable with who you're working with, And I think
that's typical for a spouse to want to meet the person.
And that's why I've been so like every time I'm like, hey,
my mission always at first it's like for you to
meet the person so you can see and have that
(11:19):
connection and comfortability with them, and that's important to me,
so that you're comfortable too.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, and I won with old guys so.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean you did coach for a women's team there
for the first year.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But I again, it's about who you're with, right, So
like in past lives with relationships, I would not have
trusted that person to work on an all girls team
with you. I'm like, have fun in Kansas, you know,
like there's no I trusted you with being around a
team of girls. Yeah, every week for how long?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Nine months? Ten months?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's a couple of days a week. No, it wasn't
that long. Was five months?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well even so like a week for five months.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I was so comfortable because I trust you, and
I think at the end of the day you can
see the difference, like I was.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's a great example.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I was showing him a instagram of someone that I've
been in a movie with, and I said, this is
how I used to.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Be with my co stars.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I showed you a video of somebody on Instagram of
them like this is how I was like, babe, this
is how I used to be on socials and you know,
because I just was like, ah, like just we are
just more free. But it does come off as quite
inappropriate if you're in a relationship, but I never saw
(12:48):
it that way.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, listen. Also depends in the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would like to instagram that's but I don't want
to make you uncomfortable. Like so there's times when I
would have maybe wanted to more, but I'm like, oh,
I don't want to make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What depends what you're doing in the Instagram video, Like
that particular video you showed me the guys like hugging
this woman. I'm like, i'd have been like I being
straight on the phone. You know, Okay you then is
it April Fool's Day? Get that down right now? I
can get back. Yeah, I just spoke to the director.
(13:27):
You've got three days off, even even even stuff like
you're good with so when you're prepping for the movie,
and also you have to speak to the directors, you
have to touch base with possibly other actors, and you're
good with me, Like, listen, this person, this text me,
this person wants my number? Are you okay with it? So?
(13:47):
I think the respect around it is. Is it a
really high level?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah? Yeah, I always am like because I want you
to feel you know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And you also don't want an angry Scott's and coming
on to sit.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, stop it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You wouldn't, okay, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Topic number two introducing kids to new partners, So lake
Bell reveals parameters for introducing kids to new partners. She
is open about co parenting her two kids to ex
husband Scott Campbell, and that includes how the two navigate
dating as single parents.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So she has.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Basically said that usually if she's hanging around someone for
five or six months and they've shown that they care
about meeting them, like okay, sometimes it happens a little
sooner because if the people have kids, then you know,
if the kids don't get along, that's kind of disastrous.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
When you got did anyone? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I answered my own question in my brain? That did
not end well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I was gonna say, did you introduce someone post divorce?
How was there a timeline for you in your brain?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Was there a timeline in my brain?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And this is not about me?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
No, no, no, it's nothing to you, was there a
timeline in my brain? I was. I was fueled by
I was probably fueled by anger at that point in
my life, where.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I think that's true for a lot of co parenting situations.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I was fueled by anger and resentment. And if I
was to do it again, I would have done it.
I would have done that differently, absolutely, and I would
have I would have waited longer, and I would have
put Troy's feelings in it first. So yeah, I have
a regret around that. Absolutely I would have I would
(15:44):
have waited and had more composure around it rather than
fuel emotions around it, and like I had to do
somewhat something to get one over someone else. Yeah, not
handled it wrong? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Where does that sit with you?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Now?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It's it sets fine. I've had the discussion with Roy
on it, like a few years back, and and I've
apologized how or how I did that and given reasons
felt why I did it and there were wrong reasons.
So yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Do you think is the best like tip then for
people that are coming out of a divorce when it
involves kids and having new relationships, Because I do I've
always agreed, like when we've spoken about it, there is
a piece where you are allowed to have your happiness
and your Obviously it wasn't to end up with but
(16:44):
I think there's like this push and pull between you,
you wanting a new start, and but also it's hard
when maybe they don't, when they don't mesh with the kids,
that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, I think I think the biggest thing for me
is the kids will tell you yeah, the kids will
let you know you like you don't have to continually
ask them and should never feel pressured by the other
person saying well, what's the problem when we're going to
meet the kids, Like it should always be about okay,
this is and I think it should almost be the
(17:22):
kids should depend on these The kids should come to
you and say, look that I'm ready to meet this
person who's in your life. And I think that's probably
the best way to do it, because anything else is
is your agenda being pushed on the children, which is yeah,
I have regrets around that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, well we and I've always kind of had like
a it's so hard to put a time limit on
on it, right, like obviously the short like the very beginning,
the first few months.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I don't think it's appropriate.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But if things are progressing, especially if they have kids,
you know, I think you have to feel it out.
There have been obviously I wish I didn't introduce the
kids to you know, post, but that was I Again,
I think when you're in that place of hurt and
(18:14):
you're wanting to move on, it's messy. It gets a
little messy.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, of course it does.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And even though I.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Tried going about it the right way, it's still they
go back and be like, oh, that's a bummer. Now
luckily learn from that made better choices post. And you know,
trying to get the co parent to agree on proper
timing is also really hard, and.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I think how you do it is also important. There's
the timing of it, and then that's how Then that's
how you do it and where you do it, and
the environment and what you do it and so that
the kids feel safe that they can leave that environment.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well yeah, and I think with this situation too, like
even when I was flying over to to didn't to
come see you. You were very much like, you know,
I'm spending time with Troy, and I need you know,
I'll see you this is when you leave. Because it
was we had to because because you learned the lesson,
I guess on the last one. But he found out yea,
(19:17):
which is funny, Like he was the one that actually
found out before you even told him.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He actually he actually told me this story of how
he found out. I'm mortified of him reading a Little
Brown Mortified to this day, Like every time he tries
to bring him up, I'm like, no, left in my room.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I die so mortifying.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like I was like, no, no, no, we're not talking about it.
Like I wrote a diary because we spent so much
time apart that I thought it would be sweet when
we didn't talk, because there's because of the time difference.
I wrote essentially a journal of things that I was feeling.
And oh my god, this is so she's a caam.
I'm saying this well, and and I sent it to
(20:05):
you and and then it was basically one of the
things where then you can write and then send it back.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I never got it back.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's fine, But did I even know it was there?
Troy probably found it before. What do you mean, did
John know thing?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I sent it to you? You opened it?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Oh, the one in a little Brown book? Yeah, a
nice lettle book that is still cherish in the drawer.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, the whole point was like to send it, to
write it back and forth.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, I get that memo.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah you know you never sent it back. It's fine,
it's all good. But in there I put my Christmas
card of me and the kids. Okay, and that's when
he saw it. Okay kids, Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Told me that. That wasn't that long ago that you
told me that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, and I was in a hole. I was like,
please don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm not sure read every page.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Let's hope.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Now, how did you feel introducing me to Mike, to
Mike the kids or the kids and the kids? Like,
how did you approach it with Mike when you knew
(21:20):
you were going to introduce me to the kids?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We he was dating a girl around the same time
that we It was the same almost the same time
period where he was well, I'll say this, there was
a time or no, that was that after the next
time that didn't go well, Well.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Did you even think about it to who?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Like, oh, I'm very thought out now, I was after
the last time. I just like, I cannot mess this
up again, Like this has to be it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, So that's good information for people so based on
the fact that you messed one up and would have
done it differently, and I admit to the same, Yeah,
they've done it ferently. What did you? What did you do?
Definitely when I come onto the scene.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I knew that you were the one I was going
to marry like that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It was that potential where I wanted to then obviously
see how you mesh with my kids. It was to
that point, but just the other person that I knew
I wasn't going to and there were things that was
my mistake because I was wanting this made up story
(22:33):
in my brain of what that was. So with this situation,
I remember we were at I was going to because
we had been talking since October. So so October remember,
so it's been like it was like three months and
he was seeing a girlfriend. And I remember I was
going to Anguilla with Sarah Bryce and we were in
(22:58):
the airport at a Hudson News or whatever, and I
said hey, or I was just like talking to Mike
about something and he goes, hey, I want to talk
to you, and I knew it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I knew exactly what go say.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was like, I kind of do too, but I'll
let you go first, and he's like, you know, you know,
I've been talking to this person and you know, I
it's it's I know it's only been these many months,
but I would like to kind of introduce.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
And I said, totally cool, totally get it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I have also been thinking, are you cool, because you
know he's going to maybe be coming at the end
of you know, end of the month and in January
or whatever, so just be nice to you know, have
the meet because I think he's going to be moving
here the next couple of months.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I remember, sorry, I remember when I was coming over
and I was going to meet the kids. I remember
you saying to me, you're a little bit anxious, not
maybe not anxious, but I love that skeptical because we'd
been used to that point and you met you'd met
Troy at this point, but we'd been used to our time,
(24:04):
always been of our time, and you are a little
bit anxious around me coming over, and then the time
is split between Okay, there's going to be the kids
are going to be around, and we're not going to
have as much as much one to one time as
what we normally would have had. And I always trac
to pease, be like I understand the whole situation. Mm hmm,
(24:28):
Like I really know what to expect when I get there,
and I know how important your kids are to you,
so therefore.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, well that's the thing. It's like, even now to
this day where it's when Roman goes down, I'm like,
all right, kids, family game time, you know, and it's
like I am just laser focused on spending that time
with the kids, and it's like, what if, what if
this isn't the life that he does want? Like because
because I do come with two young ones, like you
you know, Troy is older, you know, and he's.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I was fifteen at the time, Jason still.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Tull up, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, so Mike is this and I think there's a
piece of that where you can say I'm to me
as many times, but until you're in the situation, is
he going to accept it's not just me, it's all
of us. And for a while it's just been me
and like cool, he accepts me and who I am,
but I'm not that I'm different around my kids, but
(25:23):
I am. I'm a mom and this is this is
actually like you've seen the the highlight reel when I
was in England, right because I had time to put
on makeup and I was I got to sleep and
I didn't have really responsibilities there. So when I was
in you know, when you come to home, it's like, okay,
(25:46):
this is this is a different Jamma than he's experienced,
and will he accept me and the two babes and
it went swimmingly. You were It was a it was
a very short meeting and I said, you know, this
is Alan and he lives over in England and trying
to explain that to them was so cute and so
but it went great and it was it was so good.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I think it's easier though, like to be to be
fair on you, it's easier for me to meet younger
kids than it was for you to meet boy.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, because it's not that it was hard to meet you, no,
no, no no.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But love him.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah. He's a teenager and he's got his own views,
his own opinions, and he's got his own mom who
he's been around for fifteen So it was more difficult
for you. Well, I would assume it was more difficult
for you.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I came from a I came from a divorced background, right,
and so when my dad started, It's like I don't.
I'm not looking for another mom. And again my kids
have their dad too, but you again see them more
than their dad. So you have such a big responsibility
and also love and all of it to be this
(27:00):
father figure in their life too. And for me it's
it was harder because I don't. I don't get to
see him as much as I would like to write.
And I just always just want to be at least,
you know, a friend and someone that was always there,
you know. But it is harder I think coming in older,
you know, with older, but as long as I remain
(27:21):
you know who I want to be for him again,
he's got an amazing mom. He's got you like I don't.
I just am here as a friend and support.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I think nothing you do it well. I think he
knows he can have a laugh with you and listen.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I am the one where he can, you know, take
jokes at.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know what I mean, like tell you a little
yet won't tell me.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
That's because I'm the cool friend, you know what I mean,
like and the cool step you know step mom you know, right,
But like in that I always think of like, yes
I am a step mom, but I look at it
as like not the mom, but as a friend because
he's got, like I said, a great mom. So anyways,
good chat, follow your heart with it. You don't want
to evolving door, right, have people coming in and out.
(28:03):
I think it's important for kids to see their parents,
you know, maybe you know have relationships, but it doesn't
have to just be you know, with a romantic person.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It goes back to kids wants stability and safety. So
if you're constantly introducing different people, then doesn't it gives
a bad image of all that kids?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Right, So I would just for the people you know
going through that now, just to keep that in mind
and you know you're doing the best you can.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
We all make mistakes, clearly we have to.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So anyways, on that note, see you next week.
Host
Jana Kramer
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