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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so this this therapy Thursday is looking a little different.
We're going to do things a little different today because
we have I GE's so like, you know, how like
you have a secret.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, I can't taybe earlier.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I can keep a secret if it's a pinky swear,
But if you don't pinky swear me, you know, I'm
going to probably tell it's contractually binding with her, and
if you don't, then all it's all bets off.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
It also took me eleven years to figure that out.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Well, I grew up in Michigan, so I just knew
it would work just what we do.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'll just figure that out today.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
So I've had, you know, a few things that I
have been.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Not talking about because you know, I just want to
do it when I'm ready. And so I've got an
announcement today, an announcement next week, and who knows from
there what's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
By the way, I'm here as well, by the way,
speculating as to what this would be, would you say,
East and I have been speculating as to what this
might be because we're completely we've been told only that
there's an announcement happening. You got to be there. It's going
to rock the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Mark, we miss you.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's always I love that there is something juicy.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Well that's what I was told. So here I am,
and I'm I'm I'm very excited to hear this.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
We are your funky bunch. I hope you're ready, buckle up.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So well, I guess before, I mean, Mark, how are
you catch us up on your life?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Oh? I'm fine, Thank you. Nothing exciting happening with me.
Thing's fine, kids are good, wife's good, everything's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
He's like, and back to you, Jana.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yes, back to you. Nobody's nobody's tuning in for me.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
When's the last time we talked?

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Mark?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Boy, I don't. I don't know. It's been many months.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
I mean, wasn't he speculating about your boyfriend at the time?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Even think because that was in November. I was like, oh,
because you had once said there was a little nugget
that you had said that I made people. And I
was like, hey, Mark said this a long time ago,
that this is the person that he thinks I should date,
and I said no, never, And so when people were like, oh,

(02:44):
do you have a boyfriend, and I like, you know,
what does he do? And I said it's interesting. Mark
was right, And so then people went back to listen
and they're like, oh, he must be in soccer.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So we haven't even spoken since then.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I mean, I told Mark when he tuned in, I
was like, I've grown an entire human since the last
time I saw it.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I've multiplied.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Sure, have we've missed you? You missed the baby shower.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
It's great to be back. Yeah, I'm sorry, It's okay,
it's condolence. So yeah, I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
You should, so am I And I don't know why
you knew.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I know, but I'm so nervous.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I didn't know. I did you did?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I did what you did?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
I go?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I did?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
I bet?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I bet everybody listening would like to know what we're
in on?

Speaker 7 (03:37):
All right?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
What do you think Mark and Easton?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah? No, nothing, we thought about Easton and I speculated
on that you're ending the podcast. We speculated on the podcast. Yeah, yeah,
I think that would certainly rocket.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, no, that would just roll it out.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
No, we were concerned that there's something involving your ex husband,
but that doesn't seem to be the case, just judging
by the basic demeanor of the room. So I don't know.
I'm lost.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
For once it doesn't revolve around the ex husband. That
feels good. Doesn't it all feel good to say?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah? Yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I would say we're into a new chapter. Go ahead, Creamer.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So Alan and I have been dating for November December
januor very March April May, six and a half months.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
When you point five it.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
You know you're going for cholf life. When you point
five it okay?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
And he uh, he asked me to marry him.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Oh my god, you need.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Wow. Look at Easton's face.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Mark, Oh my god, Mark, Dad's here.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh I just can't.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I've froze that in my memory forever, the looks on
your faces.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Mark, Mark. Some said he didn't ask for permission first
from him? Where was that called?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh he did, he did ask for permission, but yeah,
not to you.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
No, it's a podcast, daddy podcast.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Daddy abandoned me and I have issues about.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
So. I mean, wow, six and a half months in a.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
I mean, I think if the average listener right now
is thinking to themselves, this seems a little fast considering
what we've been through previously. Very it seems like she
might be in a place where she would want to
take some time I am on something like this and
not rush into anything right for fear of it, for

(06:05):
fear of it ending painfully.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Would we also agree, though, that in our growth, I
like that we are all marry Allen at this point?
Would we also agree that Janna's discernment is a little
tighter now because we know what we like and what
we don't like, and we know what we will settle
for and what we won't settle for. So perhaps we
don't need to wait ten years because we're pushing forty,

(06:31):
and we can just marry who we love when we're
ready to marry them.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think there's a happy medium between six months and
ten years. Have you hit six months with anybody since
you're divorce?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
And certainly not six point five, not even three?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Okay, And so no qualms whatsoever? So I guess, Okay,
let let's let's let's focus on the positive. Let's focus
on the event at self. Where was it, how did
it go down? And did you see it?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Coming me or Jan.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
I was shocked.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, continue, where are you though? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Really, yes, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I really was truly, I feel like you guys were
expecting it, like back in December, like a month and no.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
And I'm not a good liar. I really didn't know.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I definitely was expecting it in December. It without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Am I the only one? You're a changed woman? I
had nothing to do with that. I know that I
didn't expect it in December.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
I didn't mean it in that way yea, yeah, yeah,
and like that, I feel like y'all are perfect for
each other way.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah. Oh, let's get to my favorite part the romance.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
He hasked some questions and Jane has answer them.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sorry. He took me and a romance the kids. So
we had some people over during the day, like a
little pool party thing, summer hang, summer hang, and he
took me and the kids. He's like, hey, let's it's
a beautiful night. Let's go for a walk and let's

(08:15):
go walk up to the new house. So I was
just like okay, And so we walked up and the
kids are, you know, running around the house and looking
at the rooms. And because I don't know if I
but like my house is going to be done in August,
so you know, the house is really coming along, and

(08:35):
so like to go there to check up things or whatever.
So it was a really beautiful night, and me and
the kids were all sitting like after they ran around,
we were all sitting on the front porch of the
steps from porch steps, yeah, and just looking out at
the view because the view was just, I mean stunning.
And he he was like.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
He said my name, and.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, I got up or whatever, and then he
got down on one knee and then Julie just started
jumping up and down. It was the cutest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's like she knew what was happening.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh before he even really said anything.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, because it's like I think, like maybe she's seen
getting down on knees or yeah that's sweet. So yeah,
she started jumping up and down and then she's like,
you're getting married. And then he said, you know, I
kind of left out at that point. He said some
things and like a good paragraph. I love a paragraph.
It was like a few sentences. Yeah that feels said,

(09:36):
you know, you're the love of my life, and I
just I you know, will you marry me something? Something something, yeah,
things address, yes, a dress, and then I and we
just both started crying.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And it was yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And it felt very sentimental given the front porch of
like the new house and new beginnings, and it just
felt right, and so yeah, I said yes. Kids were
all super excited, and then we walked back down the
hill and sat outside on the porch and the back porch,
watched the sunset and just it was It was perfect.
I could not have We were actually supposed to be

(10:12):
in Jamaica, but the something happened with the resort or whatever,
and so we ended up staying here. But I honestly
like that is exactly what I would have wanted, was
that the house. And didn't he ask you, like what
he should do or not what he should do kind
of conversation. All of a sudden, Alan's like, hey, Catherine,

(10:32):
come here. I'm like, what is going on?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, we had a couple of couple conversations.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I am just still a little in awe that you knew.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I didn't know that day, So he didn't even know
he was doing it that.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Day, Yeah, which could not have been more perfect.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
But yeah, otherwise I knew well, Alan doesn't trust me,
so I talk to him about that. He gets you know,
so what did what did he say to you? Well,
the first.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Conversation, y'all were going to Jamaica, so we were kind
of talking about around that, like, you know, he's like, well,
you know, did do I get to do I tell
all of our conversation?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
We hold nothing back here?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay? Yeah, I mean it's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
But like he was like, you know, so I was
thinking in Jamaica, but like I feel like that's kind
of expected and not that you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
So maybe I did before we go and blah blah
blah blah blah. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's
a good question. We didn't, you know.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
And then I knew he had the ring at that point.
And then when he called me into the room the
other day, he was asking me my opinion on the boxes.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
And he didn't even ask me.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
So I helped him with that, which he knew.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
I mean, he was like, I feel like this one's cheesy,
this one's perfect, you know whatever. And then I was like, okay,
so when and where and he's like, well, you know,
I'm trying to figure that out. Already talked to her
mom and blah blah blah, and but I was thinking
like the new house would be and I was like, yes,
He's like is that romantic enough? I'm like that is
like perfect, Jana, Like it's sentimental.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, it means thing like real life.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Screw the other like big whatever, like.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
The roses and this, Like I mean the whole lamb
set up, like the sentimental little things is like, I mean,
it could not have been more perfect.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah. So, I mean that was basically.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Thank god he had a freshman here, I know.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I mean I broke Well, what's funny about that is
I broke my nail. I was making Jason's bed because
you know, we're obviously leaving the house and so I'm
cleaning up making the bad had inspection guy come in
that day, and you know, god, it is so bad.
But I was like tucking the sheet in and then
my finger got caught to the wall and it completely snapped,

(12:40):
like you can see the bloodline right there in my Like, so,
I mean it was hurting so bad. So I went
that day to so like two days before.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I was like, didn't even plant it.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
I actually thought that when you sent us the picture,
I was like, oh, her nails a great well done.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So yeah, I didn't know either. I mean we had
we had discussed. I know that he is my person
and to me, like I was even talking to my
ex about this because he was asking He's like, all right,
do you think this is And I'm like yeah, I
was like, but I don't even. I was like, I
think we'll get married one day, but I don't think,
like I really don't, like I don't need.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
To have That's why I think I'm I was so
surprised because I felt I feel like that has just
been the feeling around it, like we know, yeah, that
he's the guy.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, but that's an interesting conversation with your ex. Did
you call him to give him a heads up?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Uh, well, there's some.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I mean the kids know, so he was going to
find out.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, yeah, and so what did you.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Want him to hear it from you and not from
the kids.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, so Jolie had asked him, Well, so, like Mike
and I have had conversations about like, because he likes Alan,
they've hung out, you know, they're at games and stuff
like together, like it's everything's great. And you know he
had asked me. He's like, so, what do you do
you see this as you know, do you think you
and Alan will get married? And I'm like, we've definitely

(14:00):
talked about it, and I you know, but I'm also
not like we have to get married at this point
and we have to be engaged by this point, because
I true that that piece of like the anxiety of it.
I'm like, I know he's my person. I trust him,
like there's no anxiousness attached to that. So he already
knew that, like he's my partner whether we get married

(14:21):
or engaged or whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
So uh, it's nice.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
So not that it matters, but he was happy for
you and supportive.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh yeah, he was. We had a little.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Thing and so Jolie was facetiming them and she's like,
guess what, daddy, Mommy's engaged and he's like, oh, it's
nice and and so you know, I would have liked
to have told him, but I also like, I don't
want Jolie to have to keep secrets from her dad.
So yeah, so then he was like, hey, can I

(14:53):
talk to mommy? And so I got the phone and
I was like, hello, good day, and he was like
congratulations and then he's like, you know, can we can
we talk for a minute. I'm like of course, And
so went in the room and you know, we we
had to. We were just dealing with, you know, a
clod parenting situation we had to kind of figure out.
And and then once we resolved that conversation, then he

(15:15):
was like, hey, I'm really happy for you. And you know,
he's like, Alan's a great guy. And I'm just like,
thank you, and he's just like and actually it really
I started to cry and he goes because he goes,
of all people, you deserve to have someone that loves
you and respects you and like, you deserve this. So
I was just like, he's like, after everything I put
you through, and he's like, you deserve this more than anyone.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
And it meant so much to me that he said that.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
That is fantastic. It seems it seems very self aware
on his part.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, So I'm just like, thank you so much, because
I mean, it's not he didn't want it to end
up looking at this either, you know. So but you know,
we're both so happy, and I think like I'm I
root for his happiness and the fact that like he
also is like rooting as well, Like it's genuinely, genuinely yeah,
And I mean in his part too, he's probably happy.
The narratives changing a little bit, sure, you know so,

(16:08):
But I think he's genuinely really, I do do. Yeah,
he always wanted you to be happy. And I know
that that's hard to probably see, but I truly do
think that he always wanted.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
You to be happy.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, I believe that, Yeah, because I don't think he
was of Like, I don't think his intentions were ever malicious.
It was his own stuff, you know, Like I can
look at it now and go okay, Like, I don't
think he meant to hurt me. I just don't think
he knew what you know at the time, you know,
we just yeah, So, I mean.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
It seems great, seems very healthy, seems very happy. Have
you discussed the actual plans for the actual wedding?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Not in a rush?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
So maybe next year or the next year after that, Yeah,
no rush.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Really it could be twenty four to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
It could be twenty four to twenty five.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah, well then I and then that's great. And you're
not really rushing into much at all.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are you.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, that's the thing, like we're just like I think too.
You know, people are like, oh, we probably need you know,
like a visa or something, and I'm like, no, he doesn't.
This isn't like that. I could just see, like, like,
what are people going to say? I already know people
are going to come after me because of my past.
I get it, you know, and it's like I've made
dumb decisions when I was nineteen whatever again continue on.

(17:19):
But like you know, at the same time, I was
also in situation where like, yeah, I didn't want my
last marriage to go the way that it did. Like
that wasn't like, you know, I would have stayed in
that forever. So I know the people will come after
and say comments and will be like, oh I give
this however many months and it's like cool, like you
can say whatever you want. Like at this point, it's
like I just am at a place where like I

(17:42):
now know and I now feel and I now know
that like I am allowed to be happy and like
I deserve the happiness. So I'm not gonna let those
comments affect me or discourage me. And also yeah, like
we're not rushing into things. We're not going we're not
getting married next month, like it'll be sometime next year

(18:03):
or the next year after that.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
And are are you done having children or are more possibility?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Well, we've always kept it tied, so I personally think
she should have another.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
But that's just me.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
This just feels like I've been on a big fat.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Island for the last three trimesters. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I guess we'll see.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
We'll see. Stay tuned. Should we get Alan on, Yes,
we'll he come on? I think so.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Close captioning brought to you by I know this is
going to get tricky at that Scottish act.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Let me text them right now, call them. Is he
saved under Alan?

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Or?

Speaker 4 (19:03):
And that feels very unbranded? I kind of knew.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Come on.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
I hope he answers and says something nice. Hey baby,
you want to come on the podcast?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, okay, alright, bye, I gotta plug in the another mic.
I just plug it in. Yeah, okay, welcome to wind down, Allan.
Thank you for having me. Is this Alan's first time?
This is Alan's first time.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm actually shocked you're here.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I am too good of I am to That's great though.
Should we get started, Yeah,
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