May 15, 2023 • 44 mins
If you haven’t heard Maria Menounos’ story, your outlook on life is about to totally change. Jana catches up with her old friend Maria to hear her story of getting a brain tumor diagnosis immediately after her mom was diagnosed with one.
Maria shares a crucial moment in her health journey where she knew she needed to make a change.
And, Maria spills everything about her baby girl due this summer! Learn the incredible advice she has for anyone following a surrogacy journey!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, we were just talking Hanna because Hannah's back. Hi, Hannah,
you just came back from pregnancy. Like, what is it
called again?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Pregnancy?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How old is babes now? He's five months?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Fast?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
I know.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Holy, I feel like I just saw you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Wait, didn't we just see you and pregnant?
Speaker 6 (00:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I guess that's that was Jackie.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, it was Hannah. When did when I saw you
guys in November, I was.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, guys months already.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
How are you feeling. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, that seems accurate.
Speaker 7 (00:54):
Was absolutely a huge shock to me. Like labor and delivery,
I was very lucky. Everything was great, and then postpartum
has had its challenges.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It's been difficult.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What do you think the what's been the biggest challenge
with your postpartum I think definitely breastfeeding.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
That trying to He's my first, so trying to understand
even how to do it, how often they eat, all
of that has kind of been a huge surprise. My
milk like wasn't coming in, I wasn't producing enough, and
so trying to like you know do I you know,
supplement with formula.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
He was like super slow to gain weight.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
It took us He's supposed to gain weight or back
to birthwait two weeks, and it took him about like
six to seven weeks to get there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Catherine doesn't just bring you back to like PTSD when
you walked into the hospital and you're like, this is
the formula bottle step away.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, experience too. Yeah, it's it's tough. I feel you.
Speaker 8 (01:50):
I feel like women just need to hear that because
there's so many like boobs out moms that make it
look so easy, and I'm so excited for them.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's been so true.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
By the way, even when I could breastfeed, there's no
way I could have just whipped it out and it
would have been that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Easy just to go boop. I mean, it was like,
how do I hold them? How do I do?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Do you?
Speaker 9 (02:05):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Remember with Jace, I had Julie and my neighbor Ashley
trying to get Jace to lashes. I didn't know how
to do it because I Jolie didn't breastfeed, So I'm like,
then I felt guilty for not breastfeeding. So I had
my two girlfriends trying to like force his little head
on there and like trying to latch, and then I'm
like bawling crying like no, no, not a mom.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's like you not like it's struggling that does not
make you like a great mom though. That's just something
that you have to just learn through the process.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
As it was a mess.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
And then I found out when legend was three's tongue tied,
lip tid, and I'm like, well, that would have been
when I was trying to dram my size double d
into his sweet little face.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Poor thing. It's probably like, ah, how do I do this?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know A thing I loved though about postpartum and
I don't know if you experiences, Hannah, but I was
a huge fan of the night sweats. Huh, I will
I would wake up both kids would wake up in
a pile of like sweat. I had the worst night sweats,
and I would wake up being like yes, and I loved.
Speaker 10 (03:04):
It, like hot because yeah, water well, like I lost
like some of the waterway, but it just felt like
I felt like a later No, I'm I don't know,
it's just something like like I like to sweat.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I don't know, because it's like you just served.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
I did feel that way in hot yoga though, right,
and then I would do regular yoga and I'm like, well,
this is worth.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Did you have nice sweats?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I didn't experienced nice sweats that much.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Apparently it was totally Cramer because she was losing another
waterway over there.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was just a huge fan of it. I loved it.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
I mean I had nice before pregnancy, and I hated
them then. So I mean, yeah, that's like one thing
I've gotten to like skip over.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Mm. So that's like the one thing about like perimenopause.
And I'm excited about her going into that pouring it off.
Have you experienced the when someone walks into the room
you're just randomly crying moment?
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Oh you know, I feel very fortunate. My husband will
tell you he's like he like told my sister's husband,
he's like, have a baby. It's the happiest I've ever seen, Hannah. So,
but I have had like random and it hasn't been
very many, So I feel very fortunate. But I have
had random moments of just like overwhelming frustrating and I
(04:17):
just break down and cry. Yesterday actually happened with one
of them, but I fin feel very fortunate. But I
something I have been surprised is and I thought I
was kind of past it is just like most recently,
probably about a couple of weeks ago, my anxiety kind
of ticked in. I have never really been an anxious person,
(04:38):
and so I was really shocked that I started kind
of having like all these dreams. And it happened when
we moved him out of our bedroom into the nursery,
and I started having these dreams like if there was
like a fire, how do I get to him? And
things like that, And so I feel like my post
part of anxiety kind of hit me.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
A little later than I thought.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I was kind of surprised by the.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
That post part of my anxiety is a real thing
for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And also like the hormones will stay in your body,
what do they say, like for like a year, year
and a half pregnancy hormones, so like it takes you
a minute, it takes a minute to go back to.
And then also like that anxiety, welcome the motherhood, You're
going to have that fearing like you know every time
you drop them off, I'm like, well, God, what if?
And it's like that's just yep.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
Yep, like loves like I have stuff he knows, and
I was like, do you have a tumor?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Oh my god, well you have to like what's my story?
Speaker 8 (05:30):
You know, like our world is. That's the other difference
our parents did. Weren't flooded and inundated with all these
like random stories that are sometimes helpful but then sometimes
not good for moms with anxiety.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Also, not to just make it any harder for you,
but when the kids get older, school, so we got
we gotta notice from the teacher saying like, hey, we
did the intruder lockdowns today. And so I was like,
all right, I'm going to talk to both kids separately
because I don't know what Julie's gonna say, and I
just you know, whatever. So I first I talk to
Jason the way home from school and I'm like, hey, buddy,
(06:02):
you know, how is your day? And he's like it's
good something that you know, telling me his day. And
then I said, did you guys have any drills today?
And he is and it's maybe me so sad He's
like yeah, He's like we had to we had to
go in the bathroom and cover our mouth and turn
the light off, and I'm just like, like, I like
broke my heart and I go, do you know why
you did that, buddy? And he goes in case a
stranger came and we can't scream, we can't yell or
(06:22):
the stranger's going to get us, And I'm like, that
is just so incredibly sad. And then when I had
the combo with Jolie, she was like, we have to
hide in our our cubbies and stay quiet and we're
not allowed to make a noise or like the intruder
will come in. I'm just like this, like we had
to deal with tornado drills and fire drills, not someone
like fearing for our lives. Yeah, I was like, that's
so sad.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
I think that's sometimes where I had the disconnect with,
like some disconnect with my parents or Preston's parents, is
they're like, oh, we know we did this, we had
to do this before, and I'm like, but you never
had to do it to the level of hypervigilance that
we're all doing it. Like it's pesticides on food, it's
sex traffic. It's like, you know, like you can't put
a baby in a buggy at Target because someone might
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take it. I can't put them in school because somebody
might shoot. Like it's just a different level of like
all the things that we have to be so hyper
vigilant about that it's not nearly the same.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Checking in how's your anxiety, Hannah?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I mean, I'm so sorry, Hannah.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
No, I go throw out your non organic celery Hannah,
because I've just added.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah, these are all things I've already thought about, and
like already I'm like, I don't know how you send
and how all of you do it, like drop your
kids off at school every single day, like the terrifying
of moments of where we're at in this country now,
and like how many how often school shootings happen? And
so no, it's like stuff I'm already thinking about. Like
I feel like even when I'm with him now, like
(07:44):
I'm hyper aware of my surroundings when I'm out. We're
before I didn't really pay much attention to anything, and
I already feel like I'm just like kind of looking
at every person and just like just trying to.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Be I used to go for runs at eleven pm.
I mean, what is wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Now? I would never do that, not anymore it's just
everything is so different.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Did you guys hear about So there's a right, well
now there's a writer strike going on right now, so
you know, like, of course one more thing. So in
the last time there was a writer's strike, I was
on Friday Night Lights and I also have a longer
stint on it. And then when the writer it lasted
like four or five months, and then when it came back,
(08:27):
they had to go to the next season, so everyone
was older. My character went away. So I was like, oh,
so it was such a like I was so upset.
So I'm like, but they're saying this writer strike is
probably gonna last just as long, and it's because of AI,
because a lot of people are using AI as a
way to like write, and so they say they don't
need the writers. But there's also those AI scams going
(08:50):
around too that I've been seeing about that you can
mimic someone's voice and they're scamming yes, and I'm like yes.
Like one mom was like they had my kid, said
it was kidnap. The other one said my brother died.
And I was like watching this, I was like, oh
my god, terrifying, and like, what is happening it's crazy
you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Kayden and I were talking about it yesterday. He's like, hey, Mom,
do you know this. I couldn't even repeat what he said,
and I was like, what are you talking about it?
He's like, how do you not know about this? He's like,
it's like the AI thing, Like kids can go in
and basically they'll write papers for them and they'll do
you know, blah blah blah. But like all the kids
get in trouble for it because they know. And I
was like, we have to have a conversation about a
I now like what. He's like, it's everywhere, like I
(09:27):
want to make money doing X, Y and Z, and
I'm like I can't, yeah, because there's like way ways
for kids to make money somehow off of it.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
I love me with her voice. Oh my god, that's terrifying,
but that just actually makes you want to get sick. Well,
and I'd give every I'd be like, you know, I mean,
because you just can't.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah. But here's the deal. So good news, let me,
let me, let me go, let me go to The
good news is there's a lot of people going through
a lot of things, and and I'm really happy to
have my friend Marie on today's show, because she's gone
through a brain tumor, she's gone through cancer, she's gone
through the death of her mom with cancer and COVID,
(10:08):
and the way that she's been able to stay so
positive and also helping other people has been so inspiring.
So let's shift our anxiety, take a break, and get
Maria Manunas on first and foremost. I love you like
(10:35):
you are. You are the brightest light of anyone that
I've ever been around, because I remember, like, because we
did a movie together, was it two summers ago? Yeah,
And you're just like the sweetest, kindest, brightest person, and
like you're just so grateful to be just there and
(10:57):
just talking to people. And when I read to you know,
your bio and everything that I know, it's like, it's like,
how do you stay that grateful given everything that you
have been through? And it's like can you and can
you also kind of walk through the timeline of people
that don't know the brain tumor, your mom everything else
that you have gone through.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Thank you well, thank you for that. I love you
and I loved working with you. And you know, it's
funny you never know how people are going to be.
You walk onto a set and I had known Ryan
or your you know, co lead in the movie, and
you were so exactly the same, so warm, so loving,
so amazing. I was like, oh, thank God, thank God.
(11:39):
And so I'm so grateful to know you and to
be friends with you now, because you know, life is
tough and you need people that are great around you.
So yeah, it's been a journey. I think when you
come from you know, kind of harder beginnings, you I
don't know. I just was always grateful, I think, because
(12:03):
you know, whether it was cleaning nightclubs, growing up with
my parents, you know, the second I could actually like
not have to do that, I was grateful, right. And
the second I was able to start doing the things
that I was dreaming of, of course, I was grateful.
But I think it's a mentality, right, It's something you
have to cultivate. I do my grateful list every single
(12:24):
night before I go to bed, and then I do
one with my poodle in the morning. So we do
this like little ritual where we play together and she's
liker R and she's you know, moving her pause and
you know, slapping me in the face with them, and
I'm like let's do our grateful list, kids, and we
go through our grateful list and we go through everybody
we're grateful for in our lives, and those practices help
(12:47):
keep it top of mind. And you know, yeah, we've
gone through a lot of health journeys. A lot of
people don't know. With my dad growing up, he was
a severe Type one diabetic and they were immigrants, and
so so I always have a real soft spot for
immigrants because it's so hard. You go to a new country,
you don't speak the language, and things are really hard.
(13:08):
Healthcare is really hard when you don't know the language.
Imagine going to France right now and trying to navigate
your health and having a health condition and you don't
speak French. It's really friggin hard. So my dad was
type one diabetic and he would have low blood sugar
attacks and low blood sugar comas all the time. So
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my mom and I had to get really in tune
with him to know, you know, psychically, if he was okay.
So I'd be in school and I'd be like, I
don't think he's okay, and I'd have to run home.
And I remember one instance specifically, I ran home and
I found him flat on the bathroom floor and how
to resuscitate him. And so we lived in fight or
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flight as my dad gonna die every single day. Wow,
So gratefulness started there because every time I went to
the hospital he came back. There was one moment he
passed to the other side, he said, and he looked
down he saw me crying, and God said, you have
to go back, and he did. And so I was
always just so grateful to have him. Flash forward twenty sixteen,
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my mom was diagnosed with a brain tumor. It was
called glioblastomo, which is a really deadly brain cancer you
get usually six to twelve months. I don't want to
just say that that's the norm, because there are some
people who break the odds and my mom was one
of them. So we battled that for five years. A
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couple months after she was diagnosed with a brain tumor,
I was diagnosed with a brain tumor and mine, luckily,
was a men in geoma, which is benign. So we
both had brain surgery from the same surgeon in the
same hospital, doctor Black at Cedars.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It was crazy, and.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
You know, when COVID hit, both my parents got COVID
in the beginning, one with stage warbrain cancer, the other
one with type one diabetes. They're in two different hospitals.
I think my parents are going to die. It was terrifying,
but we beat that too, So I always say, God
just keeps giving us all these miracles. So I'm so
grateful and all I see is miracles, and maybe because
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that's all I see, that's all I get now because
then last summer, I was diagnosed with type one diabetes
and it rocked me. I was so terrified because even
though I had experience with type one diabetes with my dad,
I also had experience with type one diabetes and I
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saw the worst of it and I was like, oh
my God, my husband's gonna have to babysit me for
the rest of my life. I can't go on a
hike ever again. I can't do anything again alone. I
was so hard got through that. And if you don't
know COVID, the studies all are showing high prevalence of
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diabetes diagnosis after getting COVID. I mean, I saw a
statistic like forty plus percent of people who got COVID
got diabetes. So I'm hoping this is temporary, but got
the diabetes dealt with that, and then I started having
all these pains. And by the way, funny enough, right
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after I was diagnosed, Brian Herslinger, the director who directed
us in our movie, our Christmas movie, called me just
maybe three four weeks after and he's like, I want
to offer you the lead role in this movie. And
I was like, I can't, and my husband was like,
you have to. I go, Kevin, I can't even figure
(16:42):
out how to do these shots every day.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Still.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I can't go do a movie and then do a
lead like that's a lot. I remember how much she
worked and how hard it was. He's like, I'll be
with you, we'll do it. And so I confided in
Brian and they took such good care of me luckily,
and I was able to do it. And I had
a huge breakthrough with the diabetes on the set, which
was crazy cool. But that's for another time. So that
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was another little miracle, not a little, a big one actually.
And then in the fall I started having these like
abdominal pains. I was having really bad abdominal pain. I
had diarrhea for a month and a half. But I
did all the things. I did the stool tests, I
went to the hospital. They did a cat scan. They
said everything was fine. So thereafter pain would come and go,
(17:30):
but not It wasn't a lot. It was just a
couple of times I had real bad pain, and every
time I said something, they were like, well, we did
a scan, everything's fine, there's nothing else we can do.
Your blood work's perfect. I was like, but something's wrong,
and I kept asking anybody would listen to me, what
is this throbbing I'm feeling in my upper left I
was also feeling stuff in the lower right, but I
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had a large fibroid that was pushing my rectum into
a whole other stratosphere. Apparently all my organs were all
moved around. Because even though I'm not carrying my baby
right now, I have a surrogate, I had a baby.
If I show you the picture, you guys would die.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
It was huge. And so.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I ended up at a birthday party for Anastasia Sword
December twenty seventh. This woman comes up to me and
she's like, I have this new company called Pernuvo. When
we do full body MRIs, you need to come in.
And she was very aggressive with me, and I was like, okay, okay,
I've been trying to reach your show and your producer
haven't heard back, and she's like, you got to come in.
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So we scheduled them. I think it was January sixteenth.
My husband and I went in. We did them, and
the next day we found out that they found a
mass on my pancreas, and I was like, okay, I'm done.
Everything we know about pancreas cancer, I'm done. And I
was in absolute shock because I have a baby coming
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and I'm like, how could you finally bless me with
a baby, and now you're gonna take me before I
even get to meet her. The next morning, after the
AMRII confirmed it, I was guttural crying. I have like
my church icons on my mantle and my fireplace in
my bedroom, and I just was looking at it and
I'm like, I can't believe this is happening. So another
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miracle occurred. So I had surgery. Pathology came back, everything's clear.
They took the tail of my pancreas, my spleen, seventeen
lymph nodes, and the fibroid all out. It was like
a nine or ten hour surgery or something, and I'm
doing great and I am grateful. Is literally I should
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tattoo it on my frigg and forehead at this point, because,
like I said, I just keep getting miracles, and then
my new miracle comes this summer, and so I'm so
excited to meet my new miracle and I actually get
to live and enjoy her.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I mean, what a story you don't have.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
It's a tattoo gratitude because it like beams out of
your sweet little face, such a light. That's incredible, and
your little girls do this summer.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, that's it. It's just wonderful.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Because you guys tried IVF right for how many years?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
We?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I mean I started kind of the IVF journey almost
ten years ago. I was working on Doctor Drus show
and I was going to I was doing it as
a segment kind of, and I was like, I have
to do it anyway. So we started back then, and
then we did like artificial insemination. We we tried everything,
and then when I got the brain tumor, my neurosurgeon said,
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you can't get pregnant because when you get pregnant, as
you know, things grow and there's still some brain tumor
in there. He couldn't get out. It was in a
really dangerous area, and so yeah, I was like, Okay,
I have to get a surrogate. And then that journey
took a couple of years because we found one it
didn't work because her lining wood and grow to the
(21:01):
final stage as you know, for the embryo to really
be safe and to take So then we had to
find another surrogate who is now my current surrogate. And
then by the time you find someone, it takes a
year through all the tests and the blood work and
the paperwork and this is and the that's so it's
a journey.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
That process is exhausting too, Like the surrogate search, I've
had a few friends that have had heartbreaking stories around that.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
So yeah, I'm really grateful again for like people who share,
and Kim Kardashian is someone who obviously shares everything, and
she shared her team with me, but she also shared
her advice because I said, how like, am I supposed
to tell her what to eat? Am I? Like Maria,
I was so chill with everybody, and I just realized,
like you know, especially a lot of us women, we
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love to control things, were scared. We want to make
sure everything's perfect. And when I watched how she walked
through her surrogacy journeys. She was very chill about everything,
and that was such a great example for me to follow.
So my surrogate was so awesome. She was like, I
want to do whatever you would do if you were pregnant.
I almost fell off my chair. I was like, I
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love you, thank you. I was like, well, I think
the basic things is I would eat.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Like please, don't smoke or drink.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, I mean those are obvious.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
She's a mom of two and she's like, I mean
her and her family, they are family.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Now.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I love them so much. A lot of people don't
have relationships with their surrogates, and I know that from
our surrogate agent. She's like, you guys have like a
very special thing. I'm like, when people are in our world,
their family, like that's just it. But they're obviously giving
us the greatest gift ever. But I said, I would
just like eat organic and I would stay away from
sugar because obviously we have a lot of sugar issues
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in our family. And I would stay away from caffeine.
That's what I would do. I go, but listen, if
you have a craving, you eat it. Because if I
had a craving. I would eat it, so don't you
don't have to be crazy about it, because I want
you to be calm so that the baby's calm. And
so I sent her I have a thrive market. I
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do like a meat, fish, poultry, whatever delivery, so it's
all organic. I sent her some organic skin stuff from
Juice Beauty that I loved, and then what else, sent
her some supplements that my doulah friend, Lorie Bregman told
me about. And we've just been really it's just been
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about communicating.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
The baby's kicking.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Oh my god. She every time she hears your voice notes,
she goes crazy. And it's been such a beautiful journey.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Did you know that you were having a girl? Did
you do like a gender reveal to find out?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
I knew, we knew what we implanted.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
That's always so sweet.
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who made their mark in that magical era.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Stars from Saved by the Bell, Married with Children, Blossom, Clueless,
Full House, Beverly Hills, nine oh two, one zero. The
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Speaker 4 (24:30):
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Speaker 9 (24:33):
How could I forget Ben Stiller? I mean, it was
so nice for us to both meet him for the
first time. He was an amazing guest. We've also had
on other nineties megastars like Jason Priestley, Melissa Joan Hart,
cal Mitchell, and Maam Biolic just the name a few,
and there's so much more to come.
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Speaker 2 (25:05):
I gotta say, I'm I'm so envious of your outlook
and I and I wish I could take like a
percentage of it because I was in therapy the other
day and we were trying to do em dr around.
I was like, I have such a fear of death
and like dying that like I'm like things aren't going
to work out and I'm gonna die, and I'm like,
it's just such a crappy outlook on things. But I
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don't know if it's because it's got it's gotten worse,
says I've become a mom. But it's like I don't know.
I just I'm always like like I've seen like those
scans and we've we've Catherine and I have done things,
and like I'm gonna find something and then I'm gonna
because any time I have something, like I was having
a little health thing and I was like, I'm dying.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I'm dying. And I'm like, why do I go straight
to that, like to that fear instead of going to
you know, everything will be okay and you know there's miracles,
And I don't know, I just have like the hardest
time with that piece. It's like, even when I'm on
a freaking plane.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I love you for your honesty. I think that's why
your audience loves you too. You know, it's it's a
practice like anything else. So I'd ask you, what is
your fear of dying? What are you most afraid of?
Are you afraid of the pain? Are you afraid of
not being here for your kids? Are you afraid of
not being here at all? Like?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
What are your biggest fears?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
She's like, all of the.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
F Yeah, no, it's it's it's my kids, like not
being able to like you know me, and then like,
I believe in heaven, I believe in all the things.
But I'm like, but then you're just gone.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And so this is like I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
But it's okay. I It's just so.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I was extreme opposite when I got diagnosed with a
brain tumor. I was so burnt out and so unhappy.
I had dealt with so much workplace toxicity and so
much shit, and my mom was in the throes of
her brain cancer, and I was like, okay, is this
my get out of Joe free? Card? Am I out?
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I'm like cool, If this is it, I'm done. And
I said to the kinesiologist I worked with at the time,
I said, I don't care if I die, and he
was like, I go, but I don't know if I
believe myself, I said, but I don't. I don't care,
and he goes, mmm, he did the like the testing.
He was Yep, you're telling the truth. He goes, but
(27:27):
that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
We need to fix that, and so he cares if
you die, So that's good.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
So the whole thought was, Okay, well, there are things
that I have to change in my life and adjustments
I have to make, and I did those. When this happened,
I was terrified of dying because I was like, I
have a baby coming. So when you're a mom, it's
natural to be terrified of dying because you you're a
(27:55):
mama bear, you have a baby. So I wouldn't, you know,
shame yourself for that. That's a real emotion and you
shouldn't be mad at yourself for thinking those things. But
what I would say is some tools that I use
that help. And in the moments of like listen, it
was like Kevin and I were just like, what the
f excuse my language, everybody, but that applies there. We're like,
(28:19):
what the frig? Like, Wow, how is this happening? How
am I about to die? This is crazy? And at
some point I was like, Okay, I've learned so many
things on my show, so many experts have come on
every day. I'm going to start applying some of these
things because one of the things when I was praying
to God was like, how could you do this? How
(28:40):
could you take me before I get to meet my baby?
Doesn't make sense? And then I just kept saying, it
doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense, and I realized
it doesn't make sense. I know that this happens. I've
heard horrible stories, but I don't think that's my story.
And it started just kind of coming naturally out, and
I go, wait, I don't know the end of the story,
So why am I going to catastrophize. That's not gonna
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help me. It's not gonna help my body, and it's
not gonna help anybody around me. So I was like, Okay.
Another tip I learned from a hypnotherapist. Her name is
Ida Kendall. She said, choose wonder over worry. So when
you're in those really dark, scary places, shift into this.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I did it.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I was getting lots of bad news from the doctors.
It was really really scary, and I said at some
point I was like, okay, I'm done with this. Then
I go, I wonder what it's going to be like
when the doctor calls me with good news. Next, I
wonder what it's going to be like when I find
an amazing surgeon and he performs the best possible surgery
and I'm healthy and safe. After I wonder what it's
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going to be like when I recover really well and
I can look back on this and say, I'm okay.
I just kept doing that, you guys, and it kept working.
Literally the doctor would call me right after and he'd
have good news. And so choosing wonder over worry is
a tool. And then also, like I think, being prepared
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right so you can also put things into place so
you feel like you have done everything you can. We
can't control anything. God can take us any second in
any kind of way. And we know now that life
is even more precious after COVID because COVID's taking people
still with heart attacks and vascular strokes and all kinds
of things. It's wreaked havoc on our bodies. So healthy
(30:34):
people are now unhealthy, like people left and right are
having things that were totally normal healthy people. So it's
more precious than ever, which is probably as a sensitive
person what you're feeling too. But put the things in
place that need to be in place, so you know
you've done everything you can. I called my best friend,
who's secretly hiding next to me right now. She's in
(30:55):
town visiting me, and I said, I have to change
my trust and I have to include my baby in here.
We didn't even think of that. I said, would you
take care of her if something happened to me and
if something happened to Kevin too. Obviously f're on a
plane like we were flying to live with Kelly and
Ryan to announce the baby. And she was like, yeah,
(31:16):
of course, Okay, that made me feel better. I knew
I had somebody that I loved and trusted that would
take on that responsibility. I'm like, you'll have plenty to
do it with everything's going to be written down. But okay,
that helps, And so you can do things like that
to help you feel a little better. But I think
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ultimately we have to surrender that to the higher power.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
So all we can do is live our best lives
and not on the phony living my best life bullshit.
Live the best possible life you can every single day.
Surround yourself with good people, take care of your health,
have it as high a consideration as your career and
everything else. Listen to your body when it makes noises.
We listen to our cars when it makes noises, and
(32:05):
we go to the mechanic and we're like, oh, when
I drive, I hit the accelerator, it makes this noise,
and when I hit the break it does that.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
With our bodies.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
We don't do even that with the doctor. We don't
even say that we get there. We forget because we
don't keep a pain journal. Keep a pain journal so
you can go in and say, oh, well, actually there's
been a pattern here. So we have to listen to
our bodies, and we have to take care of ourselves,
and we have to really find ways to cope with
our fears. And meditation is a really great one, Doctor
(32:33):
jo Despens. I can't say enough great things about how
much that's helped me and saved me and changed my life.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, Steps you have your podcast Heel Squad that you
are doing. Now, who's a guest that you've enjoyed interviewing
the most? And who are you who would you love
to have on?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I mean, there's so many people I want to have on.
I mean, gosh, like how cool would it be to
have Oprah sitting over here someday? That'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Heka, it's Jana Kramer on your list.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Janna, you've been on my show?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I have, and I love it the best.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
I think.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
For me, I every time I do an interview, I'm like,
that was that was the best show ever. Because all
of the guests that we curate are the best at
what they do in the world and health and wellness
life improvement in general. And I love learning and I
love growing. So for me, this show is just my crack.
And I tell people all the time, I'm like, listen,
(33:38):
not because I want more downloads or anything. It's like,
because you're going to learn things that are going to
help you in your life every single day, because I'm
a psycho about getting takeaway and I'm really psycho about
bringing in amazing people that are going to transform and
change our lives. And so it's your accountability partner every
single day to keep you on that health track, because
no one else is telling you your health is that important.
(34:00):
And right we grow up, you know you're going to
have a baby.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
What do we do?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
We tell babies not babies, but at some point they
become small children, We're like, get good grades, do amazing
in school, achieve win, go to college, get you know,
get a huge job, make a lot of money. Then
we transition to get married and have kids. Health crickets.
(34:30):
No one's telling us about our health until we're sick
and we're in a problem, and then you haven't done
the work to learn. What my mission is here on
this show is to teach you as the coach. You
have a team, You're going to figure out how to
use your players. We have Western medicine. If you don't
know what they're good at and what they're not good at,
(34:51):
you might use them in the incorrect place on your team.
So we have to understand what is at our f tips,
what is available to help us in these health crises
and in these health conditions and situations, and understanding that
it starts with an autoimmune condition. Oh, I have hashi motos.
I have thyroid, and we think that's normal now because
(35:13):
everybody has it. And then what happens is we don't
make any changes to our behavior or our lives, and
then it becomes something else, and then all of a sudden,
now I've got cancer and I can't believe I have cancer,
and so I too.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
I did all of those things. I worked like a dog.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
I didn't pay attention, I didn't take care of myself.
And then of course I had this journey with my mom.
So the tumor that was on my pancreas was there
for a while, it just started activating and growing. And
so that was a mac truck that I couldn't stop officially,
but I'll tell you the things that I did in
this last year where I really went on this next
(35:51):
level of my health journey changed everything to the point
where I had a researcherund my show. Her name is
doctor Jewett. She researches natural care killer cells and those
are the cells that go in and kill the cancer
and all that. And she had done my blood work
in my mom's blood work seven years ago, and she
(36:11):
just did it before I had pancreas surgery. And she's like, Maria,
whatever you have done, your natural killer cells are unreal.
She's like, it's ninety seven percentile. And it was not
the case before because I was beating myself up and
not taking care of myself. And so she goes, cancer
really can't live in your body. That's why it stayed
(36:32):
in that one split at one place, she said, And
so it was well differentiated they call it. And so
I am really really devoted to my health and listen,
shit's still going to happen because forty something years of
living in a certain way. You can't just turn like
I said that mac truck around. You can just do
(36:52):
anything you can to do better now and be prepared
and make as the best choices you can in front
of you. So if you're twenty listening to the start
making those better choices, even if it's just what you're
putting in your mouth every day, eating wise, eating healthier,
and making sure you get your sleep. So your body
gives all those processes done that it needs. We don't
(37:13):
even think about why people tell us to sleep and
go to betterly, it's because the body needs to do
its job at night. There's a job that actually has
to take place. So if you don't give it its time,
it's not going to be able to do the job. Now,
imagine if you're not able to do your job or
you're getting your paycheck at the end of the week. No,
so we have to look at it in a different way.
(37:34):
And that's what I do here on this show every day.
It's my mission to help people really take their health
into the highest consideration, to understand the things that we
could be doing better without it being overwhelming, so that
we can live longer, healthier, happier lives.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Heal Squad add to podcasts.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Like why I ask you so many questions about it?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm like, I'll just go listen and I'm going to
start from scratch and just change everything that.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Another party that Anastasia had for Oprah and the whole
conversation was health, and I was telling them, Okay, we
got to get our blue light glasses. Friends, we get
to get you know, our nighttime glasses. We get to
reset our circadian rhythms. You got to eat your veggies
first every meal so that your your body has that
fiber basket. My friend's laughing at me because I was like,
I made breakfast this morning, and she was about to
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eat the tomatoes first.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
I go, that's a fruit. You want to that's sugar.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Let's start with the spinach first.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I need a list. I need like a cheat sheet.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Can you give me like a one page cheat sheet?
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I did.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
I created a cheat sheet for them. I was like
here's the cheat sheet and I'll send it to you guys.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, we need.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Fiber baskets. Long do we need to know about that?
I want those kill ourselves.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Maria, I love you so much. I know you have
an out, so thank you for coming on wine down
and I cannot wait to hold your baby. And just
you and Kevin are just the most love. I mean,
Kevin is like such a rock for you, and just
seeing you guys together is just it's a beautiful little
love story. So thank you for letting me just watch
(39:10):
from the sidelence.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
You're the best love you love you, guys, and I
will send you the cheat sheet. I will send it
to Channa. You guys can take it and and yes,
just get started.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
We'll do.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You're the best girl.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Thank you, thank you, see y god, I love her
how we started the show. She's so grateful. I just
calm and wonderful and here we are.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
My problem is is I take all that and then
I start worrying. I'm usually good, I'm usually fine, I'm
usually not a worrier.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
But then when it's like that, then I start to
worry the health stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, I want to do that pernuvo thing. I've seen that.
Kelly Rizzo did it it, Amanda Klutes did.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I really when next time I go to LA, I
will pay. That's I don't pay like I know they've
done like that. I will do like I will pay
whatever I used to do that and then place close
to ya.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I know I need another one.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I'm all.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
That's the thing like for me. I was talking to Julie.
Julie Solomon came over the other day and she was
talking about I don't know how we got into, like
her home birth or whatever, but we were chatting and
I was just like, I want all the doctors. I
want all the scans I want Like I could never
do a home birth.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh I'm at a humberth or either. My hat's off
to everyone that can. I can't. I just had a
friend that just did. And I'm right in the middle.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'm like the.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Holistic eater, organic chic, but I also have rods in
my back. So she said, we're Western medicine and modern
medicine like that that all makes sense.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
To me, and I get that.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I like know what they do well and what they
don't and yeah, and I.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
Will say this pregnancy has been like kind of a
testament to it because I've always been a clean eater,
but I've been the most clean, most dedicated in the
last five years.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And I don't crave. I mean I've had I have
had a pop tart.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
And then I might change my mind about what it's
a girl, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I feel like it's a boy if it's cause the
boys are really healthy. For me, it was salads and
cucumbers and like, oh yeah, I don't want to salad.
Oh then okay, maybe not. I don't want to say,
but I'm really thinking.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
I do think it is like the compound interest of
all the things, like I've always kind of felt that way, compound,
just the compound interest, like if you.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You know, she reminds me of the on the every meal,
every night's rest.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It all compounds to something.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
You guys are gonna laugh at me. But so I've
recently binged ted lassa I love.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Oh yeah, I to start watching watch soccer.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I know that well because it's it's interesting because now
that we're because he's never seen it either, and I
don't I haven't brought it up to him because you know,
I'm sensitive to like you know, him not playing anymore
and all those things, and so I was like we
kept tearing watched head Lassa watched ted Lasso. So I'm like, hey,
would you want to watch and he was like, yeah,
(41:55):
let's let's just give it a shot. Well then like
two nights later we're on season Now we're on season three.
Like the last season. I'm in love with ted Lasso,
Like he's the kindest, sweetest but he's got like heart.
She kind of reminds me of like a female version
of ted Lasso. Does Alan think ted Lasso is funny? Yes,
that makes me happy because I think it's funny. But
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I know nothing about soccer really.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, the funny thing is is, now that I know
somewhat of UK soccer, how different it is over here,
Like the things that they say. I like, I chuckle
because I'm like, oh, this is funny. Like you know,
when they were talking about the cleats, it's like, no,
they're boots, but I'm like, why do you call them boots?
They're cleats. But everything's so different over there, and so
it's like it's kind of fun to like know the
(42:39):
like and.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That the others. I haven't watched it at all is
that UK based.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It's yeah, it's about an American football coach, like football,
American football coach going to England and coaching football and incredible.
It's hilarious, but it's like hard, Like I was crying.
Alan and I were both were crying when he was
talking about like being a father and like, oh my god.
(43:02):
I mean we're both crying and it's like heart wearing
but also funny, cute and easy. Okay, yeah, it's so
not her show, but like it's so I have a
list of show and I'm like, I really want to
finish watching it.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
My D list.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I told her a lot the last thing he told me.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, but now I need more episodes.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I know.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It's so frustrating. I know it's so good.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
It's so good, Jennifer, so good. Okay, I've never watched that.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
You would like it? What I oh?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm caught up on successions.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, okay, we're season three. Tell me any thank you?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well that was a sorry, that was a curve ball.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Sometimes I've she's just she's so happy and Ted's so happy,
but also like you know, underneath is like going through staff.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Fish.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, be a goldfish.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
Sweet if you know you know, If you know you know,
and if you don't, you're probably saying about right, and
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Bye mm hmm
Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All Right, we were just talking Hanna because Hannah's back. Hi, Hannah,
you just came back from pregnancy. Like, what is it
called again?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Pregnancy?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How old is babes now? He's five months?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Fast?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
I know.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Holy, I feel like I just saw you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Wait, didn't we just see you and pregnant?
Speaker 6 (00:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I guess that's that was Jackie.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, it was Hannah. When did when I saw you
guys in November, I was.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, guys months already.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
How are you feeling. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, that seems accurate.
Speaker 7 (00:54):
Was absolutely a huge shock to me. Like labor and delivery,
I was very lucky. Everything was great, and then postpartum
has had its challenges.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It's been difficult.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What do you think the what's been the biggest challenge
with your postpartum I think definitely breastfeeding.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
That trying to He's my first, so trying to understand
even how to do it, how often they eat, all
of that has kind of been a huge surprise. My
milk like wasn't coming in, I wasn't producing enough, and
so trying to like you know do I you know,
supplement with formula.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
He was like super slow to gain weight.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
It took us He's supposed to gain weight or back
to birthwait two weeks, and it took him about like
six to seven weeks to get there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Catherine doesn't just bring you back to like PTSD when
you walked into the hospital and you're like, this is
the formula bottle step away.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, experience too. Yeah, it's it's tough. I feel you.
Speaker 8 (01:50):
I feel like women just need to hear that because
there's so many like boobs out moms that make it
look so easy, and I'm so excited for them.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's been so true.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
By the way, even when I could breastfeed, there's no
way I could have just whipped it out and it
would have been that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Easy just to go boop. I mean, it was like,
how do I hold them? How do I do?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Do you?
Speaker 9 (02:05):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Remember with Jace, I had Julie and my neighbor Ashley
trying to get Jace to lashes. I didn't know how
to do it because I Jolie didn't breastfeed, So I'm like,
then I felt guilty for not breastfeeding. So I had
my two girlfriends trying to like force his little head
on there and like trying to latch, and then I'm
like bawling crying like no, no, not a mom.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's like you not like it's struggling that does not
make you like a great mom though. That's just something
that you have to just learn through the process.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
As it was a mess.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
And then I found out when legend was three's tongue tied,
lip tid, and I'm like, well, that would have been
when I was trying to dram my size double d
into his sweet little face.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Poor thing. It's probably like, ah, how do I do this?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know A thing I loved though about postpartum and
I don't know if you experiences, Hannah, but I was
a huge fan of the night sweats. Huh, I will
I would wake up both kids would wake up in
a pile of like sweat. I had the worst night sweats,
and I would wake up being like yes, and I loved.
Speaker 10 (03:04):
It, like hot because yeah, water well, like I lost
like some of the waterway, but it just felt like
I felt like a later No, I'm I don't know,
it's just something like like I like to sweat.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I don't know, because it's like you just served.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
I did feel that way in hot yoga though, right,
and then I would do regular yoga and I'm like, well,
this is worth.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Did you have nice sweats?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I didn't experienced nice sweats that much.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Apparently it was totally Cramer because she was losing another
waterway over there.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was just a huge fan of it. I loved it.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
I mean I had nice before pregnancy, and I hated
them then. So I mean, yeah, that's like one thing
I've gotten to like skip over.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Mm. So that's like the one thing about like perimenopause.
And I'm excited about her going into that pouring it off.
Have you experienced the when someone walks into the room
you're just randomly crying moment?
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Oh you know, I feel very fortunate. My husband will
tell you he's like he like told my sister's husband,
he's like, have a baby. It's the happiest I've ever seen, Hannah. So,
but I have had like random and it hasn't been
very many, So I feel very fortunate. But I have
had random moments of just like overwhelming frustrating and I
(04:17):
just break down and cry. Yesterday actually happened with one
of them, but I fin feel very fortunate. But I
something I have been surprised is and I thought I
was kind of past it is just like most recently,
probably about a couple of weeks ago, my anxiety kind
of ticked in. I have never really been an anxious person,
(04:38):
and so I was really shocked that I started kind
of having like all these dreams. And it happened when
we moved him out of our bedroom into the nursery,
and I started having these dreams like if there was
like a fire, how do I get to him? And
things like that, And so I feel like my post
part of anxiety kind of hit me.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
A little later than I thought.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I was kind of surprised by the.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
That post part of my anxiety is a real thing
for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And also like the hormones will stay in your body,
what do they say, like for like a year, year
and a half pregnancy hormones, so like it takes you
a minute, it takes a minute to go back to.
And then also like that anxiety, welcome the motherhood, You're
going to have that fearing like you know every time
you drop them off, I'm like, well, God, what if?
And it's like that's just yep.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
Yep, like loves like I have stuff he knows, and
I was like, do you have a tumor?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Oh my god, well you have to like what's my story?
Speaker 8 (05:30):
You know, like our world is. That's the other difference
our parents did. Weren't flooded and inundated with all these
like random stories that are sometimes helpful but then sometimes
not good for moms with anxiety.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Also, not to just make it any harder for you,
but when the kids get older, school, so we got
we gotta notice from the teacher saying like, hey, we
did the intruder lockdowns today. And so I was like,
all right, I'm going to talk to both kids separately
because I don't know what Julie's gonna say, and I
just you know, whatever. So I first I talk to
Jason the way home from school and I'm like, hey, buddy,
(06:02):
you know, how is your day? And he's like it's
good something that you know, telling me his day. And
then I said, did you guys have any drills today?
And he is and it's maybe me so sad He's
like yeah, He's like we had to we had to
go in the bathroom and cover our mouth and turn
the light off, and I'm just like, like, I like
broke my heart and I go, do you know why
you did that, buddy? And he goes in case a
stranger came and we can't scream, we can't yell or
(06:22):
the stranger's going to get us, And I'm like, that
is just so incredibly sad. And then when I had
the combo with Jolie, she was like, we have to
hide in our our cubbies and stay quiet and we're
not allowed to make a noise or like the intruder
will come in. I'm just like this, like we had
to deal with tornado drills and fire drills, not someone
like fearing for our lives. Yeah, I was like, that's
so sad.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
I think that's sometimes where I had the disconnect with,
like some disconnect with my parents or Preston's parents, is
they're like, oh, we know we did this, we had
to do this before, and I'm like, but you never
had to do it to the level of hypervigilance that
we're all doing it. Like it's pesticides on food, it's
sex traffic. It's like, you know, like you can't put
a baby in a buggy at Target because someone might
(07:04):
take it. I can't put them in school because somebody
might shoot. Like it's just a different level of like
all the things that we have to be so hyper
vigilant about that it's not nearly the same.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Checking in how's your anxiety, Hannah?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I mean, I'm so sorry, Hannah.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
No, I go throw out your non organic celery Hannah,
because I've just added.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah, these are all things I've already thought about, and
like already I'm like, I don't know how you send
and how all of you do it, like drop your
kids off at school every single day, like the terrifying
of moments of where we're at in this country now,
and like how many how often school shootings happen? And
so no, it's like stuff I'm already thinking about. Like
I feel like even when I'm with him now, like
(07:44):
I'm hyper aware of my surroundings when I'm out. We're
before I didn't really pay much attention to anything, and
I already feel like I'm just like kind of looking
at every person and just like just trying to.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Be I used to go for runs at eleven pm.
I mean, what is wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Now? I would never do that, not anymore it's just
everything is so different.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Did you guys hear about So there's a right, well
now there's a writer strike going on right now, so
you know, like, of course one more thing. So in
the last time there was a writer's strike, I was
on Friday Night Lights and I also have a longer
stint on it. And then when the writer it lasted
like four or five months, and then when it came back,
(08:27):
they had to go to the next season, so everyone
was older. My character went away. So I was like, oh,
so it was such a like I was so upset.
So I'm like, but they're saying this writer strike is
probably gonna last just as long, and it's because of AI,
because a lot of people are using AI as a
way to like write, and so they say they don't
need the writers. But there's also those AI scams going
(08:50):
around too that I've been seeing about that you can
mimic someone's voice and they're scamming yes, and I'm like yes.
Like one mom was like they had my kid, said
it was kidnap. The other one said my brother died.
And I was like watching this, I was like, oh
my god, terrifying, and like, what is happening it's crazy
you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Kayden and I were talking about it yesterday. He's like, hey, Mom,
do you know this. I couldn't even repeat what he said,
and I was like, what are you talking about it?
He's like, how do you not know about this? He's like,
it's like the AI thing, Like kids can go in
and basically they'll write papers for them and they'll do
you know, blah blah blah. But like all the kids
get in trouble for it because they know. And I
was like, we have to have a conversation about a
I now like what. He's like, it's everywhere, like I
(09:27):
want to make money doing X, Y and Z, and
I'm like I can't, yeah, because there's like way ways
for kids to make money somehow off of it.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
I love me with her voice. Oh my god, that's terrifying,
but that just actually makes you want to get sick. Well,
and I'd give every I'd be like, you know, I mean,
because you just can't.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah. But here's the deal. So good news, let me,
let me, let me go, let me go to The
good news is there's a lot of people going through
a lot of things, and and I'm really happy to
have my friend Marie on today's show, because she's gone
through a brain tumor, she's gone through cancer, she's gone
through the death of her mom with cancer and COVID,
(10:08):
and the way that she's been able to stay so
positive and also helping other people has been so inspiring.
So let's shift our anxiety, take a break, and get
Maria Manunas on first and foremost. I love you like
(10:35):
you are. You are the brightest light of anyone that
I've ever been around, because I remember, like, because we
did a movie together, was it two summers ago? Yeah,
And you're just like the sweetest, kindest, brightest person, and
like you're just so grateful to be just there and
(10:57):
just talking to people. And when I read to you know,
your bio and everything that I know, it's like, it's like,
how do you stay that grateful given everything that you
have been through? And it's like can you and can
you also kind of walk through the timeline of people
that don't know the brain tumor, your mom everything else
that you have gone through.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Thank you well, thank you for that. I love you
and I loved working with you. And you know, it's
funny you never know how people are going to be.
You walk onto a set and I had known Ryan
or your you know, co lead in the movie, and
you were so exactly the same, so warm, so loving,
so amazing. I was like, oh, thank God, thank God.
(11:39):
And so I'm so grateful to know you and to
be friends with you now, because you know, life is
tough and you need people that are great around you.
So yeah, it's been a journey. I think when you
come from you know, kind of harder beginnings, you I
don't know. I just was always grateful, I think, because
(12:03):
you know, whether it was cleaning nightclubs, growing up with
my parents, you know, the second I could actually like
not have to do that, I was grateful, right. And
the second I was able to start doing the things
that I was dreaming of, of course, I was grateful.
But I think it's a mentality, right, It's something you
have to cultivate. I do my grateful list every single
(12:24):
night before I go to bed, and then I do
one with my poodle in the morning. So we do
this like little ritual where we play together and she's
liker R and she's you know, moving her pause and
you know, slapping me in the face with them, and
I'm like let's do our grateful list, kids, and we
go through our grateful list and we go through everybody
we're grateful for in our lives, and those practices help
(12:47):
keep it top of mind. And you know, yeah, we've
gone through a lot of health journeys. A lot of
people don't know. With my dad growing up, he was
a severe Type one diabetic and they were immigrants, and
so so I always have a real soft spot for
immigrants because it's so hard. You go to a new country,
you don't speak the language, and things are really hard.
(13:08):
Healthcare is really hard when you don't know the language.
Imagine going to France right now and trying to navigate
your health and having a health condition and you don't
speak French. It's really friggin hard. So my dad was
type one diabetic and he would have low blood sugar
attacks and low blood sugar comas all the time. So
(13:28):
my mom and I had to get really in tune
with him to know, you know, psychically, if he was okay.
So I'd be in school and I'd be like, I
don't think he's okay, and I'd have to run home.
And I remember one instance specifically, I ran home and
I found him flat on the bathroom floor and how
to resuscitate him. And so we lived in fight or
(13:49):
flight as my dad gonna die every single day. Wow,
So gratefulness started there because every time I went to
the hospital he came back. There was one moment he
passed to the other side, he said, and he looked
down he saw me crying, and God said, you have
to go back, and he did. And so I was
always just so grateful to have him. Flash forward twenty sixteen,
(14:13):
my mom was diagnosed with a brain tumor. It was
called glioblastomo, which is a really deadly brain cancer you
get usually six to twelve months. I don't want to
just say that that's the norm, because there are some
people who break the odds and my mom was one
of them. So we battled that for five years. A
(14:36):
couple months after she was diagnosed with a brain tumor,
I was diagnosed with a brain tumor and mine, luckily,
was a men in geoma, which is benign. So we
both had brain surgery from the same surgeon in the
same hospital, doctor Black at Cedars.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It was crazy, and.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
You know, when COVID hit, both my parents got COVID
in the beginning, one with stage warbrain cancer, the other
one with type one diabetes. They're in two different hospitals.
I think my parents are going to die. It was terrifying,
but we beat that too, So I always say, God
just keeps giving us all these miracles. So I'm so
grateful and all I see is miracles, and maybe because
(15:18):
that's all I see, that's all I get now because
then last summer, I was diagnosed with type one diabetes
and it rocked me. I was so terrified because even
though I had experience with type one diabetes with my dad,
I also had experience with type one diabetes and I
(15:38):
saw the worst of it and I was like, oh
my God, my husband's gonna have to babysit me for
the rest of my life. I can't go on a
hike ever again. I can't do anything again alone. I
was so hard got through that. And if you don't
know COVID, the studies all are showing high prevalence of
(16:01):
diabetes diagnosis after getting COVID. I mean, I saw a
statistic like forty plus percent of people who got COVID
got diabetes. So I'm hoping this is temporary, but got
the diabetes dealt with that, and then I started having
all these pains. And by the way, funny enough, right
(16:22):
after I was diagnosed, Brian Herslinger, the director who directed
us in our movie, our Christmas movie, called me just
maybe three four weeks after and he's like, I want
to offer you the lead role in this movie. And
I was like, I can't, and my husband was like,
you have to. I go, Kevin, I can't even figure
(16:42):
out how to do these shots every day.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Still.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I can't go do a movie and then do a
lead like that's a lot. I remember how much she
worked and how hard it was. He's like, I'll be
with you, we'll do it. And so I confided in
Brian and they took such good care of me luckily,
and I was able to do it. And I had
a huge breakthrough with the diabetes on the set, which
was crazy cool. But that's for another time. So that
(17:07):
was another little miracle, not a little, a big one actually.
And then in the fall I started having these like
abdominal pains. I was having really bad abdominal pain. I
had diarrhea for a month and a half. But I
did all the things. I did the stool tests, I
went to the hospital. They did a cat scan. They
said everything was fine. So thereafter pain would come and go,
(17:30):
but not It wasn't a lot. It was just a
couple of times I had real bad pain, and every
time I said something, they were like, well, we did
a scan, everything's fine, there's nothing else we can do.
Your blood work's perfect. I was like, but something's wrong,
and I kept asking anybody would listen to me, what
is this throbbing I'm feeling in my upper left I
was also feeling stuff in the lower right, but I
(17:52):
had a large fibroid that was pushing my rectum into
a whole other stratosphere. Apparently all my organs were all
moved around. Because even though I'm not carrying my baby
right now, I have a surrogate, I had a baby.
If I show you the picture, you guys would die.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
It was huge. And so.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I ended up at a birthday party for Anastasia Sword
December twenty seventh. This woman comes up to me and
she's like, I have this new company called Pernuvo. When
we do full body MRIs, you need to come in.
And she was very aggressive with me, and I was like, okay, okay,
I've been trying to reach your show and your producer
haven't heard back, and she's like, you got to come in.
(18:36):
So we scheduled them. I think it was January sixteenth.
My husband and I went in. We did them, and
the next day we found out that they found a
mass on my pancreas, and I was like, okay, I'm done.
Everything we know about pancreas cancer, I'm done. And I
was in absolute shock because I have a baby coming
(18:59):
and I'm like, how could you finally bless me with
a baby, and now you're gonna take me before I
even get to meet her. The next morning, after the
AMRII confirmed it, I was guttural crying. I have like
my church icons on my mantle and my fireplace in
my bedroom, and I just was looking at it and
I'm like, I can't believe this is happening. So another
(19:22):
miracle occurred. So I had surgery. Pathology came back, everything's clear.
They took the tail of my pancreas, my spleen, seventeen
lymph nodes, and the fibroid all out. It was like
a nine or ten hour surgery or something, and I'm
doing great and I am grateful. Is literally I should
(19:44):
tattoo it on my frigg and forehead at this point, because,
like I said, I just keep getting miracles, and then
my new miracle comes this summer, and so I'm so
excited to meet my new miracle and I actually get
to live and enjoy her.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I mean, what a story you don't have.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
It's a tattoo gratitude because it like beams out of
your sweet little face, such a light. That's incredible, and
your little girls do this summer.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, that's it. It's just wonderful.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Because you guys tried IVF right for how many years?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
We?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I mean I started kind of the IVF journey almost
ten years ago. I was working on Doctor Drus show
and I was going to I was doing it as
a segment kind of, and I was like, I have
to do it anyway. So we started back then, and
then we did like artificial insemination. We we tried everything,
and then when I got the brain tumor, my neurosurgeon said,
(20:39):
you can't get pregnant because when you get pregnant, as
you know, things grow and there's still some brain tumor
in there. He couldn't get out. It was in a
really dangerous area, and so yeah, I was like, Okay,
I have to get a surrogate. And then that journey
took a couple of years because we found one it
didn't work because her lining wood and grow to the
(21:01):
final stage as you know, for the embryo to really
be safe and to take So then we had to
find another surrogate who is now my current surrogate. And
then by the time you find someone, it takes a
year through all the tests and the blood work and
the paperwork and this is and the that's so it's
a journey.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
That process is exhausting too, Like the surrogate search, I've
had a few friends that have had heartbreaking stories around that.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
So yeah, I'm really grateful again for like people who share,
and Kim Kardashian is someone who obviously shares everything, and
she shared her team with me, but she also shared
her advice because I said, how like, am I supposed
to tell her what to eat? Am I? Like Maria,
I was so chill with everybody, and I just realized,
like you know, especially a lot of us women, we
(21:49):
love to control things, were scared. We want to make
sure everything's perfect. And when I watched how she walked
through her surrogacy journeys. She was very chill about everything,
and that was such a great example for me to follow.
So my surrogate was so awesome. She was like, I
want to do whatever you would do if you were pregnant.
I almost fell off my chair. I was like, I
(22:10):
love you, thank you. I was like, well, I think
the basic things is I would eat.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Like please, don't smoke or drink.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, I mean those are obvious.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
She's a mom of two and she's like, I mean
her and her family, they are family.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Now.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I love them so much. A lot of people don't
have relationships with their surrogates, and I know that from
our surrogate agent. She's like, you guys have like a
very special thing. I'm like, when people are in our world,
their family, like that's just it. But they're obviously giving
us the greatest gift ever. But I said, I would
just like eat organic and I would stay away from
sugar because obviously we have a lot of sugar issues
(22:46):
in our family. And I would stay away from caffeine.
That's what I would do. I go, but listen, if
you have a craving, you eat it. Because if I
had a craving. I would eat it, so don't you
don't have to be crazy about it, because I want
you to be calm so that the baby's calm. And
so I sent her I have a thrive market. I
(23:07):
do like a meat, fish, poultry, whatever delivery, so it's
all organic. I sent her some organic skin stuff from
Juice Beauty that I loved, and then what else, sent
her some supplements that my doulah friend, Lorie Bregman told
me about. And we've just been really it's just been
(23:27):
about communicating.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
The baby's kicking.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Oh my god. She every time she hears your voice notes,
she goes crazy. And it's been such a beautiful journey.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Did you know that you were having a girl? Did
you do like a gender reveal to find out?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
I knew, we knew what we implanted.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
That's always so sweet.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
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Speaker 2 (25:05):
I gotta say, I'm I'm so envious of your outlook
and I and I wish I could take like a
percentage of it because I was in therapy the other
day and we were trying to do em dr around.
I was like, I have such a fear of death
and like dying that like I'm like things aren't going
to work out and I'm gonna die, and I'm like,
it's just such a crappy outlook on things. But I
(25:27):
don't know if it's because it's got it's gotten worse,
says I've become a mom. But it's like I don't know.
I just I'm always like like I've seen like those
scans and we've we've Catherine and I have done things,
and like I'm gonna find something and then I'm gonna
because any time I have something, like I was having
a little health thing and I was like, I'm dying.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I'm dying. And I'm like, why do I go straight
to that, like to that fear instead of going to
you know, everything will be okay and you know there's miracles,
And I don't know, I just have like the hardest
time with that piece. It's like, even when I'm on
a freaking plane.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I love you for your honesty. I think that's why
your audience loves you too. You know, it's it's a
practice like anything else. So I'd ask you, what is
your fear of dying? What are you most afraid of?
Are you afraid of the pain? Are you afraid of
not being here for your kids? Are you afraid of
not being here at all? Like?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
What are your biggest fears?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
She's like, all of the.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
F Yeah, no, it's it's it's my kids, like not
being able to like you know me, and then like,
I believe in heaven, I believe in all the things.
But I'm like, but then you're just gone.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And so this is like I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
But it's okay. I It's just so.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I was extreme opposite when I got diagnosed with a
brain tumor. I was so burnt out and so unhappy.
I had dealt with so much workplace toxicity and so
much shit, and my mom was in the throes of
her brain cancer, and I was like, okay, is this
my get out of Joe free? Card? Am I out?
(27:05):
I'm like cool, If this is it, I'm done. And
I said to the kinesiologist I worked with at the time,
I said, I don't care if I die, and he
was like, I go, but I don't know if I
believe myself, I said, but I don't. I don't care,
and he goes, mmm, he did the like the testing.
He was Yep, you're telling the truth. He goes, but
(27:27):
that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
We need to fix that, and so he cares if
you die, So that's good.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
So the whole thought was, Okay, well, there are things
that I have to change in my life and adjustments
I have to make, and I did those. When this happened,
I was terrified of dying because I was like, I
have a baby coming. So when you're a mom, it's
natural to be terrified of dying because you you're a
(27:55):
mama bear, you have a baby. So I wouldn't, you know,
shame yourself for that. That's a real emotion and you
shouldn't be mad at yourself for thinking those things. But
what I would say is some tools that I use
that help. And in the moments of like listen, it
was like Kevin and I were just like, what the
f excuse my language, everybody, but that applies there. We're like,
(28:19):
what the frig? Like, Wow, how is this happening? How
am I about to die? This is crazy? And at
some point I was like, Okay, I've learned so many
things on my show, so many experts have come on
every day. I'm going to start applying some of these
things because one of the things when I was praying
to God was like, how could you do this? How
(28:40):
could you take me before I get to meet my baby?
Doesn't make sense? And then I just kept saying, it
doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense, and I realized
it doesn't make sense. I know that this happens. I've
heard horrible stories, but I don't think that's my story.
And it started just kind of coming naturally out, and
I go, wait, I don't know the end of the story,
So why am I going to catastrophize. That's not gonna
(29:02):
help me. It's not gonna help my body, and it's
not gonna help anybody around me. So I was like, Okay.
Another tip I learned from a hypnotherapist. Her name is
Ida Kendall. She said, choose wonder over worry. So when
you're in those really dark, scary places, shift into this.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I did it.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I was getting lots of bad news from the doctors.
It was really really scary, and I said at some
point I was like, okay, I'm done with this. Then
I go, I wonder what it's going to be like
when the doctor calls me with good news. Next, I
wonder what it's going to be like when I find
an amazing surgeon and he performs the best possible surgery
and I'm healthy and safe. After I wonder what it's
(29:45):
going to be like when I recover really well and
I can look back on this and say, I'm okay.
I just kept doing that, you guys, and it kept working.
Literally the doctor would call me right after and he'd
have good news. And so choosing wonder over worry is
a tool. And then also, like I think, being prepared
(30:11):
right so you can also put things into place so
you feel like you have done everything you can. We
can't control anything. God can take us any second in
any kind of way. And we know now that life
is even more precious after COVID because COVID's taking people
still with heart attacks and vascular strokes and all kinds
of things. It's wreaked havoc on our bodies. So healthy
(30:34):
people are now unhealthy, like people left and right are
having things that were totally normal healthy people. So it's
more precious than ever, which is probably as a sensitive
person what you're feeling too. But put the things in
place that need to be in place, so you know
you've done everything you can. I called my best friend,
who's secretly hiding next to me right now. She's in
(30:55):
town visiting me, and I said, I have to change
my trust and I have to include my baby in here.
We didn't even think of that. I said, would you
take care of her if something happened to me and
if something happened to Kevin too. Obviously f're on a
plane like we were flying to live with Kelly and
Ryan to announce the baby. And she was like, yeah,
(31:16):
of course, Okay, that made me feel better. I knew
I had somebody that I loved and trusted that would
take on that responsibility. I'm like, you'll have plenty to
do it with everything's going to be written down. But okay,
that helps, And so you can do things like that
to help you feel a little better. But I think
(31:37):
ultimately we have to surrender that to the higher power.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
So all we can do is live our best lives
and not on the phony living my best life bullshit.
Live the best possible life you can every single day.
Surround yourself with good people, take care of your health,
have it as high a consideration as your career and
everything else. Listen to your body when it makes noises.
We listen to our cars when it makes noises, and
(32:05):
we go to the mechanic and we're like, oh, when
I drive, I hit the accelerator, it makes this noise,
and when I hit the break it does that.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
With our bodies.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
We don't do even that with the doctor. We don't
even say that we get there. We forget because we
don't keep a pain journal. Keep a pain journal so
you can go in and say, oh, well, actually there's
been a pattern here. So we have to listen to
our bodies, and we have to take care of ourselves,
and we have to really find ways to cope with
our fears. And meditation is a really great one, Doctor
(32:33):
jo Despens. I can't say enough great things about how
much that's helped me and saved me and changed my life.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, Steps you have your podcast Heel Squad that you
are doing. Now, who's a guest that you've enjoyed interviewing
the most? And who are you who would you love
to have on?
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I mean, there's so many people I want to have on.
I mean, gosh, like how cool would it be to
have Oprah sitting over here someday? That'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Heka, it's Jana Kramer on your list.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Janna, you've been on my show?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I have, and I love it the best.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
I think.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
For me, I every time I do an interview, I'm like,
that was that was the best show ever. Because all
of the guests that we curate are the best at
what they do in the world and health and wellness
life improvement in general. And I love learning and I
love growing. So for me, this show is just my crack.
And I tell people all the time, I'm like, listen,
(33:38):
not because I want more downloads or anything. It's like,
because you're going to learn things that are going to
help you in your life every single day, because I'm
a psycho about getting takeaway and I'm really psycho about
bringing in amazing people that are going to transform and
change our lives. And so it's your accountability partner every
single day to keep you on that health track, because
no one else is telling you your health is that important.
(34:00):
And right we grow up, you know you're going to
have a baby.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
What do we do?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
We tell babies not babies, but at some point they
become small children, We're like, get good grades, do amazing
in school, achieve win, go to college, get you know,
get a huge job, make a lot of money. Then
we transition to get married and have kids. Health crickets.
(34:30):
No one's telling us about our health until we're sick
and we're in a problem, and then you haven't done
the work to learn. What my mission is here on
this show is to teach you as the coach. You
have a team, You're going to figure out how to
use your players. We have Western medicine. If you don't
know what they're good at and what they're not good at,
(34:51):
you might use them in the incorrect place on your team.
So we have to understand what is at our f tips,
what is available to help us in these health crises
and in these health conditions and situations, and understanding that
it starts with an autoimmune condition. Oh, I have hashi motos.
I have thyroid, and we think that's normal now because
(35:13):
everybody has it. And then what happens is we don't
make any changes to our behavior or our lives, and
then it becomes something else, and then all of a sudden,
now I've got cancer and I can't believe I have cancer,
and so I too.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
I did all of those things. I worked like a dog.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
I didn't pay attention, I didn't take care of myself.
And then of course I had this journey with my mom.
So the tumor that was on my pancreas was there
for a while, it just started activating and growing. And
so that was a mac truck that I couldn't stop officially,
but I'll tell you the things that I did in
this last year where I really went on this next
(35:51):
level of my health journey changed everything to the point
where I had a researcherund my show. Her name is
doctor Jewett. She researches natural care killer cells and those
are the cells that go in and kill the cancer
and all that. And she had done my blood work
in my mom's blood work seven years ago, and she
(36:11):
just did it before I had pancreas surgery. And she's like, Maria,
whatever you have done, your natural killer cells are unreal.
She's like, it's ninety seven percentile. And it was not
the case before because I was beating myself up and
not taking care of myself. And so she goes, cancer
really can't live in your body. That's why it stayed
(36:32):
in that one split at one place, she said, And
so it was well differentiated they call it. And so
I am really really devoted to my health and listen,
shit's still going to happen because forty something years of
living in a certain way. You can't just turn like
I said that mac truck around. You can just do
(36:52):
anything you can to do better now and be prepared
and make as the best choices you can in front
of you. So if you're twenty listening to the start
making those better choices, even if it's just what you're
putting in your mouth every day, eating wise, eating healthier,
and making sure you get your sleep. So your body
gives all those processes done that it needs. We don't
(37:13):
even think about why people tell us to sleep and
go to betterly, it's because the body needs to do
its job at night. There's a job that actually has
to take place. So if you don't give it its time,
it's not going to be able to do the job. Now,
imagine if you're not able to do your job or
you're getting your paycheck at the end of the week. No,
so we have to look at it in a different way.
(37:34):
And that's what I do here on this show every day.
It's my mission to help people really take their health
into the highest consideration, to understand the things that we
could be doing better without it being overwhelming, so that
we can live longer, healthier, happier lives.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Heal Squad add to podcasts.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Like why I ask you so many questions about it?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm like, I'll just go listen and I'm going to
start from scratch and just change everything that.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Another party that Anastasia had for Oprah and the whole
conversation was health, and I was telling them, Okay, we
got to get our blue light glasses. Friends, we get
to get you know, our nighttime glasses. We get to
reset our circadian rhythms. You got to eat your veggies
first every meal so that your your body has that
fiber basket. My friend's laughing at me because I was like,
I made breakfast this morning, and she was about to
(38:21):
eat the tomatoes first.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
I go, that's a fruit. You want to that's sugar.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Let's start with the spinach first.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I need a list. I need like a cheat sheet.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Can you give me like a one page cheat sheet?
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I did.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
I created a cheat sheet for them. I was like
here's the cheat sheet and I'll send it to you guys.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, we need.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Fiber baskets. Long do we need to know about that?
I want those kill ourselves.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Maria, I love you so much. I know you have
an out, so thank you for coming on wine down
and I cannot wait to hold your baby. And just
you and Kevin are just the most love. I mean,
Kevin is like such a rock for you, and just
seeing you guys together is just it's a beautiful little
love story. So thank you for letting me just watch
(39:10):
from the sidelence.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
You're the best love you love you, guys, and I
will send you the cheat sheet. I will send it
to Channa. You guys can take it and and yes,
just get started.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
We'll do.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You're the best girl.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Thank you, thank you, see y god, I love her
how we started the show. She's so grateful. I just
calm and wonderful and here we are.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
My problem is is I take all that and then
I start worrying. I'm usually good, I'm usually fine, I'm
usually not a worrier.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
But then when it's like that, then I start to
worry the health stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, I want to do that pernuvo thing. I've seen that.
Kelly Rizzo did it it, Amanda Klutes did.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I really when next time I go to LA, I
will pay. That's I don't pay like I know they've
done like that. I will do like I will pay
whatever I used to do that and then place close
to ya.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I know I need another one.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I'm all.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
That's the thing like for me. I was talking to Julie.
Julie Solomon came over the other day and she was
talking about I don't know how we got into, like
her home birth or whatever, but we were chatting and
I was just like, I want all the doctors. I
want all the scans I want Like I could never
do a home birth.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh I'm at a humberth or either. My hat's off
to everyone that can. I can't. I just had a
friend that just did. And I'm right in the middle.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'm like the.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Holistic eater, organic chic, but I also have rods in
my back. So she said, we're Western medicine and modern
medicine like that that all makes sense.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
To me, and I get that.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I like know what they do well and what they
don't and yeah, and I.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
Will say this pregnancy has been like kind of a
testament to it because I've always been a clean eater,
but I've been the most clean, most dedicated in the
last five years.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And I don't crave. I mean I've had I have
had a pop tart.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
And then I might change my mind about what it's
a girl, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I feel like it's a boy if it's cause the
boys are really healthy. For me, it was salads and
cucumbers and like, oh yeah, I don't want to salad.
Oh then okay, maybe not. I don't want to say,
but I'm really thinking.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
I do think it is like the compound interest of
all the things, like I've always kind of felt that way, compound,
just the compound interest, like if you.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You know, she reminds me of the on the every meal,
every night's rest.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
It all compounds to something.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
You guys are gonna laugh at me. But so I've
recently binged ted lassa I love.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Oh yeah, I to start watching watch soccer.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I know that well because it's it's interesting because now
that we're because he's never seen it either, and I
don't I haven't brought it up to him because you know,
I'm sensitive to like you know, him not playing anymore
and all those things, and so I was like we
kept tearing watched head Lassa watched ted Lasso. So I'm like, hey,
would you want to watch and he was like, yeah,
(41:55):
let's let's just give it a shot. Well then like
two nights later we're on season Now we're on season three.
Like the last season. I'm in love with ted Lasso,
Like he's the kindest, sweetest but he's got like heart.
She kind of reminds me of like a female version
of ted Lasso. Does Alan think ted Lasso is funny? Yes,
that makes me happy because I think it's funny. But
(42:16):
I know nothing about soccer really.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, the funny thing is is, now that I know
somewhat of UK soccer, how different it is over here,
Like the things that they say. I like, I chuckle
because I'm like, oh, this is funny. Like you know,
when they were talking about the cleats, it's like, no,
they're boots, but I'm like, why do you call them boots?
They're cleats. But everything's so different over there, and so
it's like it's kind of fun to like know the
(42:39):
like and.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That the others. I haven't watched it at all is
that UK based.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It's yeah, it's about an American football coach, like football,
American football coach going to England and coaching football and incredible.
It's hilarious, but it's like hard, Like I was crying.
Alan and I were both were crying when he was
talking about like being a father and like, oh my god.
(43:02):
I mean we're both crying and it's like heart wearing
but also funny, cute and easy. Okay, yeah, it's so
not her show, but like it's so I have a
list of show and I'm like, I really want to
finish watching it.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
My D list.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
I know.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I told her a lot the last thing he told me.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, but now I need more episodes.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I know.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It's so frustrating. I know it's so good.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
It's so good, Jennifer, so good. Okay, I've never watched that.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
You would like it? What I oh?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm caught up on successions.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, okay, we're season three. Tell me any thank you?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well that was a sorry, that was a curve ball.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Sometimes I've she's just she's so happy and Ted's so happy,
but also like you know, underneath is like going through staff.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Fish.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, be a goldfish.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
Sweet if you know you know, If you know you know,
and if you don't, you're probably saying about right, and
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Bye mm hmm
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