July 10, 2023 • 37 mins
Jana hangs out with Kit Hoover from Access Hollywood to help prepare her for life with 3 kids! Kit shares the harsh truths and surprises that come with the 3rd child!
If you’re anxious about being in your 40s, Kit has some inspirational words that will totally change your perspective! It’s the best decade of your life!
And, we hear about Kit’s major fumble when she talked to Brad Pitt on the red carpet!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So welcome to wind Down. It's me and Kitty Gat.
Kitty Gat, So what you got going on there?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Girl? Dude? Is it just me?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Or Summer's the most stressful thing ever? I mean, I
don't know what I think. I'm on the like the
verge already of a mental breakdown. It usually doesn't happen
this early, so.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
To explain and talk to me. I mean, I have
my thoughts as well, but talk.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I just I love being busy.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I thrive on that.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But I think at least during the school year, I
get it, like time. I'm just such an introvert and
I need such time on my own that at least
during the school year, I've got while they're in school
to get work done, to get laundry done, to do whatever,
and then we can be crazy in the afternoons.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
That's fine, But now it's like go go, go, go go.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I just I literally lost it the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I felt terrible what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Emmy was like, you know, we've got the new puppy,
and she had him and then she gave him to
Ramsey and then no one could find the dog, and
she's like sitting there trying to explain to me the
whole thing, and I just was like, just find the dog.
But I yelled at her and I felt terrible. But
I looked at Nick and I was like, mental breakdown.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
He's like, it's coming earlier this year. Yeah, I just
don't do summer as well. I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
First question, did you find the dog?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, he was in the house. He was lost, running
around getting hit by a car. That's why I was
screaming at her. But apparently Ramsey did do what she
was supposed to and brought him in.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So does it not get easier than when the kids
get older because they've got friends to play with?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So you would think, so I thought, and for a
short time it kind of did. The problem is is like,
for instance, right now, I think I have five boys
at my house that I just threatened out of my
kitchen and like one you cannot speak, you can't do anything.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
You know, any had friends, you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Know, it's just like they're all at my house all
the time, or it's driving them, like they just make
all the plans like I need you driving here and
driving here and driving here, and it's just it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
It's just it literally is enough to like, yeah, Mike.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I feel like so many people can relate to that, though, And.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
How do I say this.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In my situation, it's a little different because our summer
schedule's week on, week off. Now, last year I made
the mistake of and you you warned me against it, you,
but I I have you know, normally I don't go
a week ever without seeing the kids. In our parenting plan,
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it's always every Wednesday and every other Friday Saturday. And
so with summer, I remember, it's stressing me out so bad,
like I'm going to go a week without seeing my kids,
Like this is going to be awful. So I decided
that we could have the kids just come to my
house while he's working on my non weeks so I
can at least see the kids. Well, then when I
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had my week, I didn't have any help, so it's
like I never really got a break. And then I
felt that kind of what you were feeling, just like,
and they're littles too, so it's even so that adds
its own element of hard. And so this year I
was like, Nope, you can't, even though I want them,
I want to see them but I also know the
(03:31):
importance of that break because if not like, yes, you're
I'm going to have that mental crack.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, and even if you have help in that week,
especially with the littles, it don't you're still coming mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So it's like, I don't think people fully understand that.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's like, because you know, so many people are like, well,
you're fortunate to have help because there's been there's been
summers where I've had a nanny or I've had help
or whatever. It's like, but if they're in the house,
it doesn't really matter because they're just constantly coming up
to you and constantly needing something.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
One million percent, Yeah, because I would have someone help
on his weeks. But yeah, I'm like, well, I might
as well not even have this person here because they're
coming to ask me questions twenty four to seven. So
and that's the same thing with kind of summer. Now
it's Jace is so he has to be so active.
Like even when I brought him on set, like Jolie
was the best set kid. She just like would just
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sit there in color and watch Jace. He was there
for five minutes, He's like.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I bored. I want to go home or can we
go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So I'm like, oh man, So that's another reason why too,
where the set time got cut a little short because
so now in summer I'm like, all right, on my weeks,
like we have to be doing something because he's just
very like wants to be like active and going. But
then I'm like, all right, for that week I can't work.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I will say, you're very good at like delegating your
time with that, and I think that because I mean,
i mean you're very like, I know, like, okay, you
have the kids in the summer, like at this time
we can talk about work or whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm not good at that and I need to get
better at that. So then I just get stressed.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know, I should be working when I'm doing something
with the kids or I'm working, I'm like, I should
be doing something with the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
And then it's just good.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, I mean I think that's also the same. I
mean when I was packing, studying lines and then finishing
my book and then I had the kids there, I'm like,
I feel so guilty because I have them. You know,
I put the TV on for them. But then they're
asking me questions and I'm like, I just need one hour,
Like I will play with you, swim with you. I
just need one hour. And it's like it's the It's
(05:37):
funny because when you ask for one hour, it's the
hardest hour to get. But then they'll play with by
themselves for an hour when I don't ask them for that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, that's the piece.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm like, this is infuriating you guys just played for
an hour by yourself when and I was like, and
I usually just let them when I like see them,
I'm like, all right, this is this is great, but
then I'm doing something else. But when I want to
work for one hour, then it's like my mom my, ma, mama.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I will say that gets a little easier as
they're older, Like, I mean, I have now threatened the
six boys in my house than Ammy. I'm like, you know,
it's it's a little bit better. Luckily, ramseason camp too,
so that's a little helpful.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But I mean I might as well just add a
baby on top of all this.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, totally fine, six kids, but don't let us work
during the summer.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now, I think what I'm gonna have to do is uh?
I think I'm gonna have to hire help.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, I think you will for sure. I mean it's
like you're definitely gonna have the baby obviously full time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Obviously, yes, you know the other ta Can you imagine
if I'm like, hey, Mike, here you go take the baby?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Hey pretty well? Am I taking the baby for a week?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There you go?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Has these?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Do you want any want to have these?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Uncle Mike?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I want to you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The other day though, and I go, wait, I didn't
have as a mental breakdown last summer.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I was like, because we had fifty to fifty last summer.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Was like, you want to go back to that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I was just gonna say, what is something that you
can do? Like can you do that? I know you
said you want to get better at it? So is
it a Catherine like take a take thirty like I
don't know, an hour, thirty minutes like this is this
is mom's time, like mom needs from this time to
this time, and then you just like put your head
in Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So I don't do great with just like thirty minutes
or an hour. My biggest thing, So yesterday I asked
for it. I said I need everybody out so Nick
took the puppy. They went to the farm and just
stayed there all day because the puppy's also an element.
And then Kateen came home from football but then immediately
went with his friends, and then Andy was out and
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Ramsey was at camp. And so I do feel more
refreshed today because I had that like nine to three,
which sounds terrible, but like I just need, like I
need a chunk of time one day and then I
think I'm better the rest the other days.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right, good, So that's a since there's still so
much summer left, that's a good little goal to go.
But then also I think just to say too, just
to have your back. Oh, emails pop up all the time, right,
so it's it's socially like things come up, so you
need you need more than the hour, So I get that.
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But we can do Friday at the pool like we
talked about when I get back.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Which will be helpful because then we'll be face to face, right,
And then like one night. I used to do this
a lot when I worked in an office, and then
you know whatever, I one day I was like, Okay,
I'm not going to stress.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I'm just going to make sure that my emails nothing's urgent.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And then at night and I know that my pupil
looks white email, but like sometimes then I can get.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Quiet and then I just like do a bunch of
work when everybody's in bed.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Hey you do you do you? And whatever works for you.
So anyway, cheers the summer, Cheers the summer.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think again, a lot of moms can relate to that.
And I think, you know, you just got to find
that time. If it's one day, ask for whatever, like
you got this. We are going to take a break
and then we are going to get Kit Hoover on.
Do you remember her cat?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You've been with me when I've been around her before.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I's much to say. I thought, yeah, I thought I had.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So I was just with her back in when we
were promoting the Mario Lopez movie. She's on Access Hollywood
and Access Daily weekdays on NBC, but she's been a
host for a really long time. She was on Fox
News ESPN funny enough, our baby Mama isn't here, obviously,
but Kit was also on MTVS. She was the first
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season of MTV's Road Roles. So that's crazy, I know,
so funny.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But let's take a break and then get her on.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Congratulations, sayank you. Last time I saw you, I had
no idea this was coming. First of all, I have three.
How excited are you? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's I was so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because you know, my bestie up there, Catherine, she's got three,
and I'm now I'm just like, I just need to
talk to moms that have three, because I just need
to understand what And also I'm kind of worried about,
you know, is the age gap too much or so
I'm curious what's your age gap?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And so first of all, how old are your other two?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So, well, when he's born, my son will be my
son will be turning five, and my daughter will be
turning eight.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Perfect. I think that's great. So mine are there's a
four and five year age gap between. My daughters are
twenty one twenty and then my son's sixteen. And the
third though, Danna, you're just gonna it's like they're they're
like the pet, you know what I mean. I was
such a nerd and such a dork. I stood outside
her preschool class and just walked three hours like a lunatic.
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And then by the third literally He drove himself to
school at like age seven, like I just got I honestly,
I can't find him. He is so self sufficient. He
does his laundry, he makes his breakfast. Really for a
third little guy, it's so funny, it really is.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
What about the pregnancy, Like, how are you feeling this time?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I actually feel okay, I think, and just uh, you know,
I'm older, so I'll be my due dates on my
fortieth birthday. So I think that kind of makes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Me a little like, you know, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I didn't think I could get you know, like I
didn't think i'd get get pregnant. I just didn't think
I could.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So it's just it's all just like wow, it's really
just sinking in, like this is really happening.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So I got access Hollywood at age forty. I'm going
to be fifty three in July. Janna, You're gonna love
your forties so much. And then the fifties I'm just
obsessed with sort of everything comes into focus. You know
where you're going, you know what you want to do.
It is one of the best decades ever. I always
say to age like gratefully, like, now you're gonna have
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three little chickens, right, unbelievable career. I just I'm so
happy for you. I just wonder, I will say. With
my third pregnancy, though, some stuff was a little more interesting,
Like I had something going on down there that I
call the bloomin onion. I don't know what happened, but
there was a lot of pressure. And I had my
girlfriend meet me at Grand Central station and like look
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under there, and she was like, oh, Nelly, I don't
And my doctor was like, don't look below the belt,
just say stay up here. So things are a little
different as you get a little older with each pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
How old were you with your third, so.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Let's help me do the math here. So I was
thirty eight maybe so about the same as you it was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, I agree, I've got a hernia, I've got
a large fibroid. I've got I mean like I've just
got I'm like I look down the other day and
I'm like, holy swollen good.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I thought are like stretch marks, which I didn't
get with the first two. I just think my body
was like here we go. I do think maybe I
bounced back quicker or maybe I just was so focused
on the other two and now this baby. Oh this
was funny. Were you lucky enough to have a night
nurse with your first two?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So what we did is we did like two nights
a week just to get a little sleep.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But my fiance is like, no night nurse. I'm like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like you don't like it's so I was like, it's
so good for both of us to get sleep, Like
even if it's just one night a week, like for
the first month.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Tell him to slow his role because with my first
two we had no money. Oh there was no night nurse.
And I remember I got mestitis and I was just like,
this is exhausting. And I remember thinking, oh my goodness,
like I don't know how people do this. So with
the third the same thing. I got mistitus. The breastfeeding
thing was tough for me, and by that point I
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didn't care and I was like, I need a night nurse.
And I'm not kidding Janet, like a fourteen year old
somebody that I I showed to put my door, that's
what I felt like. I didn't do any background check.
I was like, nice to meet you, here's the baby,
and it changed my life, like and the same thing.
We did it two nights a week and it just
allowed you to catch up. So for any mom if
they're lucky enough. I know it's expensive and I couldn't
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do it my first two, but holy cow, that's a
game changer. That's why fancy celebs can have all these
babies because I'm like, oh my goodness, if I had
a night nurse, I would have had seventeen.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, but yeah, they're so expensive. But again, it's that's
what I was trying to tell Alan. I'm like, babe,
it's worth it, Like for you, you are going to
be exhausted and then like that'll then affect just everything
else the next day. So you know, like we just
let's just let's just signure try it a better person.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's also did you have any postpartum with your other.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I didn't know, luckily.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I mean I had the random like I remember
my ex walked in.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was just crying and I was like, I don't
even know why I'm crying, but it's just coming.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Out, you know what. I think it's the sleep deprivation
for a lot of us, right with those first who
it's like, oh my god, it's just ground Paul Day right,
just living for icemom. We used to live for nap
time and when there was two naps, it was like yes,
and then they go to one nap and then of course,
wait till the teenagers like, oh, Nelly, it gets so fun.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, Kat Scotts, she's got a teenager.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And then well, I guess Emmy as hell old out.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
She's eleven, so she's a preteen. Caden's sporteen, which I mean,
he's great. I feel like boys, I don't know, they're
not too crazy, not too hard, but I mean this
year is like he's living his best life.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
He's the most.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Social, like you go everywhere, wants to do everything, which
I love.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
But I'm just like, I can't keep up with him.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's great. So Kat, tell me what you have, what
ages and what sex?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Fourteen year old boy, eleven year old girl, seven year
old girl?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Okay, so that's yeah. Boys I think are effortless. They're
just on the move and so fun. I feel like
my son's like a golden retriever, you know what I mean,
on the move. Wait till you get both of you
and your daughters get teenagers. I thought, oh my gosh,
Campbell and Hayes are never going to turn on me, like,
never go through that phase. Boom, was I wrong? They're
going to go through it all. My best advice for
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both of y'all with middle school. I don't know why
they saved me, but middle school girls they're just they
can be nasty. There's a lot of like movement which
I don't really remember as much in school, but maybe
I'm just you know, waxing poetic and remembering it like
it was all great. But I stayed home on Friday
nights with my husband. I never asked my daughters if
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they had planned. I just felt like Friday, when I
picked them up from middle school, I wanted to come
home and let them have like a safe haven. So
never asked they had plans. I always made like a
fun dinner and we'd just put a movie on and
not even ask like do you want to watch? Just
make it so if they were home, it was effortlessly
fun and it turned out to be great because that way,
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if they were ditched at school or if somebody was mean,
Friday night just evolved. You know, it was just a
fun family thing. So it was a really nice thing.
Looking back. They both told me they didn't know that
I was doing that by design. They're like, MOhm, that
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Never ask if they have plans, because if they don't,
they already feel bad about it, you know what I mean.
I just was of like, we're awesome. Like I just
would pick them up, you know, go make our ice
cream sundays, whip up a dinner. We'd put on Farris
Fielder's Day Off or some silly movie and just made
it like an effortless thing. And then sometimes they'd have
friends over or not. But middle school girls are very funky.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, that's already started for fifth grade for my daughter. Yes,
this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you know they have phone when where my daughter
has a phone, and so I you know, I go
through it and stuff, and I'm just like, I'm not
ready for middle school.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
If this is what's going to be, like, well.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Think about it like when we were younger. And again
I know I sound eighty seven, but like you never
looked at pictures of yourself, right, I mean Schmer just
did this in her stand up and it's so true,
like you maybe had like one picture a year that
or maybe two. If your friends developed now they're constantly
looking comparing, know where everybody's going. I would hate that.
I think I was oblivious to who was doing what it's.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Been knowing where everyone's going that has just been the hardest.
And I'm like, that's so true. Like you felt left
out if you were at school and someone was leading
you out. You didn't know what people were doing on
the weekends and in the summer. But now everyone knows,
and everyone's feelings are hurt, and I'm just like, it's
a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's a lot. And again, my girls had social media
way early in phones. I just sort of, you know,
I kind of I never took it away or whatever.
And then I had a deal when they were teenagers.
I said, look, here's the deal. I'm not checking your
phone unless you give me a reason too. But if
I feel like there's a need, I'm gonna get it.
Has you know, who knows what in the world. Sometimes
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they're they're going through but it's uh, well, guys, I'll
be here for you for that, guys. Patience.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm just gonna be like every year, I'm gonna be like, okay,
am I on track?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Help me?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But I always tell my girls too, I'm like, look,
your looks are your least interesting thing about you? Like
be kind, funny, aren't be like it's just you know
this day and age, I think for both of you,
just leading by example and laughing. I just god, they're
so serious nowadays, So yeah, they really are. I just
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like humor for girls and a little bit of self deprecation,
Like if you can laugh at yourself, you win, And
I mean that in a healthy way. So yeah, I
kind of it's a good thing for girls too.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Switching gears to the interviewing side of things. By the way,
you are one of my favorite people to ever be
with an in an interview or just like you're just
your energy, all of it, Like I just I love you.
Has it been because you've obviously done a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Is there.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Something that you're like, I would love to do this
that I haven't done, Like would you want to have
your own show? Or I know right now you're with Mario.
Is there some like what are you like? This would
be awesome?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
First of all, thank you for that, Dana. I appreciate that.
I love interviewing people. I've never you know, I started
in the Winnebago in TV, So for me, it was
never about fame or looks or trying to do this.
I really just like connecting with people. And I think
my dream thing now would be, which is why this
is so great, is do sort of a podcast with
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just straight interviews with women over forty fifty sixty kicking
ass because I feel like it used to be as
a woman you were dead in the water no matter
what you did after thirty. I was just talking to
Halle Berry about this and I'll like, you know what,
and now she just did an MMA movie and nobody
looks finer than her, and it's less about looks and
more about an attitude. So I just think it's fascinating
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what women are doing. You're having your third baby at
thirty nine or a right doing you turn forty, hitting
the fourth level and your life is about to totally
open up for you and Kat I don't know how
you feel about that too, but I just I feel
this resurgence, which is great for us and our daughters.
And I mean, I'm gonna be fifty three and it
feels like I honestly feel like I haven't even gotten started.
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For everything that I want to do, I think there's great, positive, fun,
raw stories to tell. So I love that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh you would be amazing. I would listen to your
podcast and Harpy, It'd be so good.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I want to make it like The hen House, where
like we get together with a big group find out,
like what do we really want to know? Like I'm
interviewing Janet Kramer, what do we want to know? When
I get all the questions from everybody, right, and then
we just dive in.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Is it hard for you though?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like I remember when you interviewed me and my ax,
Like is it hard for you to hold back on
certain things you want to ask?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yes, I'm always for me. There's a couple of things.
I'm not a gotcha person, and I feel like everybody's
got a story that they can share what they want
to share. So like when you were on with your ex,
I just wanted to be careful, right, there's human hearts involved,
and especially if there's kids involved, and so I'm just
(22:22):
never one I care about the person more than I
do about the interview or the TV show or get
in a moment, oh my gosh. And for y'all, I'm
terrible on the red carpet because if you're talking to me,
I'm never gonna not talk to you. And they're saying
brad Ted's coming up behind you or whatever, like I can't.
I just want to be present with whoever I am
because I wouldn't want that to be me that somebody
like ditches to go to a bigger person. So in
(22:44):
red carpet they're like, you're too long with Like, like
whoever I'm with, I can't. I'm like, I don't want
to make them feel bad because I'd be that person,
you know. And I also I feel like if somebody,
especially when I'm live, if somebody says something natural protector like,
I just want to jump in and make sure they're okay.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So you're and you're great with that because there's so
many like you know, which outlet's going to go try
and like dig it in to get the story, and
you were so respectful. I think that's why I've always
just loved loved you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
On that note, have there been any certain celebrities that
have just been outright rude to you?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And let me think, let me think, I love these questions.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You know what, I know, same, same, same, and I
want to give you an honest answer. The funny thing
with me, and this is with friendships and everything, I
sort of always forget if anybody's bad, and I just
sort of my add I'm just like onto the next
like squirrel, So I forget a lot too. I'm going
to think about somebody as I'm thinking about that. A
funny one though, y'all, is I was on the red
carpet with Mario for that I think it was the
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Golden Globes, and I really wanted to interview Brad Pitt.
I was like, I was set for him, but at
the time that Brad Pitt came up I was interviewing,
I forgot who it was and said Brad Pitt went
to Mario and Mario did a great interview with him. So, y'all.
Then I started drinking champagne on the red carpet. So
it's wrapped and I go to leave and I bump
right into Brad like this, and I panic and I say, hey,
(24:19):
Brad kit Pit here, I'm like, and he said what
he stops and he's like maiden or married, and I
said maiden and I was like, And then I followed
up with and I love architecture and a lot of children,
and my producer's like, what are you doing? And then
the paparazzi started snapping pictures of us and I am
smiling like the cat he wait, the canary right there
(24:41):
like y And then his people were like, we got
to get you away from this lunatic. So it was
one of the funniest Like I just sort of geeked out.
I don't know what happened, and I went full kit pit. Okay,
let me think. I'm trying to think of who's been
who's been rude. I don't want say this is rude,
but it was the first the only person when we
were live that moved where they wanted to sit. And
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keep in mind, on our show, we've had George Clooney,
Julia Roberts, Matthew McConaughey, like all these big names, and
Ariana Grande back in the day was the only one
that didn't like her angle. And I want to say,
at the time, I think she was on the Disney Show,
like she didn't really hit where she is yet. And
she was also just so young, like I mean, I
(25:25):
wouldn't know which side I've got it, you know, but
she was the one that like needed certain things which
I just found interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's like being on Regis and uh, well now Mark
or sorry Kelly and Mark and being like can I
take can I take your ce Kelly?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I always say it, it's like the sit and what well, Jenna?
What about for you? On the opposite end, who's been rude?
With the interviews You've had to navigate and you've had
to You've been so raw and vulnerable and real, which
I always appreciate as an interviewer or just somebody. That's
that's why so many people love you too, and your
music translates. Who's been kind of do she to you?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I would say it's more reporters. Like there's a certain
reporter that I have a really hard time with because
something had happened and I even sent her proof of
something like this is not true. Why would you run
the story? AND's she goes, well, you can post about
it on your story and then I'll run that. I
go all you care about is the drama?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, I literally just sent you proof of something and
you're still going to run this other story. How could
you do that?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And so that was just like, oh my god, they
don't care.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So it was a publication that I was so I
try to really steer away from that publication now.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Like again, it goes back to like the middle school
like that people just.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Want the drama.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, but I would say, I mean, I'd have to
think back to but normally. And Kat is also like
my day day manager. She's pretty like good, you know.
And I also, like, I'm very open about things. So
I get you asking the question because I've been open,
so I don't fault someone for bringing up something.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I've put it out there, so it's now mine to
then go, Okay, I've kind of moved on. I'm not
going to talk about it or I'm just going to
give a little snippet just because I get the question,
you know, so let me now how to figure out how?
And I think that's what I had to learn, is
how now I have to answer things.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Well, you're become so great at it, and again, never
stop being raw and real. I think that's kind of
all we have. And keep good people like Kat in
your corner. I think that's it too, right. For sure,
many people are around you, but it's the business has
become so crazy and when I started it was very different,
and coming from sports was different because athletes are a
(27:48):
different perspective of what you're trying to get. By the way,
I look so sporty that you know.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It looks so cute on a run after this.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
So I was like, Okay, let me just do it.
But I was so excited to talk to you. But
so your athletes are different than celebrities, and musicians are different.
Now you're both with the celebrity.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I don't know, but Cat Katherine, you we were before
the show. We were talking about the view and so Kay,
I know you wanted to ask her a question about that.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
So curious how that was, because it just every time
I watch it, I'm like, I can't keep up, Like
there's so much fighting, there's so many different Like how
was that co hosting of.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You, Kat Jannet? Let me tell you so. First of all,
I had just had my first baby. So this is
twenty years ago and I was on with Barbara star
Joy in Meredith Okay, so like the ogs and I'm
so young, and I think they thought I'm from Atlanta.
I think they thought, Okay, here comes this like conservative Republican,
(28:44):
which I don't even know what I was at the time,
but I think they wanted me in a box. I
was scared to death, y'all. The funniest thing was I
agree with everybody. Yep, yes, Starr. You were in the backup,
see Barbara were like. I was like, I am not
doing this, and so I had my parents watch because
they had made me an offer, and my dad was like, no,
they are going this isn't your fact. I'm not a
(29:07):
naturally conflict person. I don't enjoy fighting or you know,
all that kind of stuff. So they were wonderful with
me on, but I didn't get into it. You know what,
Donald Trump came on, isn't that hysterical? And I just
remember Meredith and I pulling his hair. That was oh.
And Sharon Stone came on, who I just love and
(29:28):
I'll never forget. And I hope if she hears this,
this is out a respect, not disrespect. I'm backstage and
right before she walks out, she goes like this and
then walks Nobra on and I thought, well you go,
and I thought she looked fabulous.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well you can't have you know, hard titties on uh
National TV.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Like oh I love her love, oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, yeah, I always because I I'll sometimes turn the
view on and a part of me always have I've
one of my little goals or future things as I'd
love to be on a round table.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I just think it'd be so much fun.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
But that's the one round table that I just feel
like i'd get eaten alive at because I almost feel
like if you don't agree with their stuff, you're just
gonna get yelled at and hated, and I that piece
I just don't like. I'm like, can we just agree
to disagree and be kind when we do that?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yes, one hundred percent. And on that, I mean you've
seen kind of the younger person in the seat. It's
funny for me to y'all because I was always like
the young one, like they brought me around twice for
each time to go on that. And now I'm like,
oh wait, I'm not that would be the young Like
I'm the old bird in the seat, like that's how
much time go by, which just cracks me up. But
(30:42):
you're right, that is one. Now the talk is different
because that's a great pan. I love that small guaranteee friendship.
What's in the zeitgeys that kind of thing. But yeah,
but the view is Wow, They've got a great group
around there and a good table. But for me, it
was not a good fit. What's funny with life is
when it came around the second time and they were
(31:03):
interested in me. Now I'd had no I'm pregnant with
my second daughter. The same time, ESPN came to me
about hosting this two hour live sports show seven to
nine in the morning called Cold Pizza, y'all. At this point,
I had never been teleprompter. I'd never done live TV.
I love sports, but I don't know it like my
husband does. Why I thought this was a good idea.
(31:26):
I'm just dumb enough to like leap without looking that.
I'm like, oh, I'll try this. So it was new baby.
I went to work after three weeks, Danna Kat, I'd
never like live TV is a nuanced thing, like you
got to know your thing. You got to know prompter,
you got to know that opening music would start and
sweat would go down my back. I did not know
(31:47):
what I was doing, and the joke was they thought
i'd get better a little quicker. It took a long
time for me. I think it was like six months,
and I was like, okay, I kind of know what
I'm doing, but two Hours Live was crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, I mean again, look at you now, you're absolutely
crushing it, and you know you're I really hope you
do the podcast too, because it is it's inspiring people
to go because I know there's things that you know,
maybe Kat want to do, my Chris and are their
co hosts that just had a baby, like, there's things
that we all want to do, but we feel, well,
I'm forty, it's never it's probably not going to happen now,
(32:21):
and it's you know, you're you're proving that wrong and
you're going to have people come on that that also
proved that wrong. So I think I would keyes do
the podcast one thousand percent. And what's funny, So at
age forty, the joke was, at the time of my life,
I had three kids, our house had just burned down,
which is a whole other side thing.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And so the joke is that I said to my
agents like, hold all calls, I'm gonna I'm going to
take a personal beat. But the reality Cat and Jane,
nobody was calling, nobody was looking for me, like nothing,
And then randomly I got this call for Access Hollywood,
and I only took it and moms can relate to
this to get away for the kids and like a
free trip to California we had, you know. So I
(33:01):
was like, I was like, I don't even care, just
take me to California for the interview. I went in
like this baseball had no makeup. I had strap throat actually,
and I was like, and everybody was real fancy in
this audition and like I was like, I had my
shoes that I just got it PJ Max, and I
had tanned myself, so my legs were real slippery, and
I botched the audition. And then afterwards they brought me
(33:23):
in and talked to me for a couple hours and
then I was like, wait, do y'all like like, are
you interested in me? And so the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I love that. Well, we have someone that wants to
say hi to you too, because you were her former boss.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Hannah wakeo, man, this better for you. Hannah was my
actually my second assistant, right because crazy Nadine Nadini left
and Hannah came and changed my life. Yeah for three years. Yeah,
Winkelman is such a star. And I remember she was
dating the cutest boy way back when. Now her husband
(33:59):
and they're baby. I'm obsessed with Hannah. All I was
thinking is how happy your mom must be. She's very excited.
She comes out to La about every three weeks like
she can't and Kat and Jane and I will be realistic.
Not everybody has like a cute baby. He is literally
a super mid I cannot get enough. I want to
(34:19):
eat up that little face.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Chris had said that he was like, I think the
only person who thinks he's cuter than you might be
Kit Hoover.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I'm like, not everybody's got that. Wait, Hannah, and look
and now you're EP and you're doing so great at
work and have such a great life. I'm so happy
for you. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
It's so good to see you. I'm so happy you're
still doing well. And the kids and how about the kids,
Camberlin Hayes. I was just telling them that you're EP
of this podcast and I was going to get to
see you, and they were like, oh my gosh. She
was so nice at all the ihearts been used and
all that.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
It's crazy, Hannah.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
It's been a while ride, but a fun fact Kit
introduced me to Amy Sugarman, who oh.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
All the pod go and you know what I always
say about hand drive and commitment. She was always the
hardest worker, up for anything and for anybody getting in
whatever business you are, Like, Hannah, you couldn't have predicted
this would be your trajectory, so I think it's so awesome.
Thank you. It's so good to see you. Baby. Is
he close? He's napping? Wake him up. I'm kidding, don't
(35:24):
wake a baby. I know we'll have to come visit
you and the Access crew. Please do, Hannah, you won't recognize.
It's all new people. I'm last man standing. We love
Bob and Weave.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thank you so much and I'll hopefully see you when
the baby's out.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Thanks Jana, listen, good luck with everything. I hope you
feel good, get a lot of foot massages and just
enjoy third is so much fun. Okay, thanks guys, Thanks
Thanks Janna, Thanks kat Y, nice to meet you, and
bye bye, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I love her so much. Like my cheeks hurt from smiling.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Her energy is amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I just she just is so and that's how
she is too in just interviews too, and just how
she is every time I see. She's always kind, she's
always nice.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I mean, do you remember her now when we went
to do the Mario thing.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, I mean the fact that she couldn't even really
think about who is rude to her because she just
like moves on from it. I'm like, I'm gonna be
that way, like not even remember.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Anyone that's rude to me. Like I love that. It's
such a good quality, so true.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
But yeah, I just I love her so much, and
I think, yeah, because I sometimes think that we go, oh,
it's too late, but it's never too late.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah, oh no, yeah, never loving I love it.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, since I can't have my big fortieth blowout, we're
going to have a mad fifty.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
So that's good because I honestly can't afford my fortieth
birthday party anymore with the new house.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
So I think it's because you're having anything under.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
A little bit above.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I can't do it all and then plan a wedding
and have the wedding expense there was there We go,
oh man, all right, well we will see you next week.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So welcome to wind Down. It's me and Kitty Gat.
Kitty Gat, So what you got going on there?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Girl? Dude? Is it just me?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Or Summer's the most stressful thing ever? I mean, I
don't know what I think. I'm on the like the
verge already of a mental breakdown. It usually doesn't happen
this early, so.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
To explain and talk to me. I mean, I have
my thoughts as well, but talk.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I just I love being busy.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I thrive on that.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But I think at least during the school year, I
get it, like time. I'm just such an introvert and
I need such time on my own that at least
during the school year, I've got while they're in school
to get work done, to get laundry done, to do whatever,
and then we can be crazy in the afternoons.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
That's fine, But now it's like go go, go, go go.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I just I literally lost it the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I felt terrible what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Emmy was like, you know, we've got the new puppy,
and she had him and then she gave him to
Ramsey and then no one could find the dog, and
she's like sitting there trying to explain to me the
whole thing, and I just was like, just find the dog.
But I yelled at her and I felt terrible. But
I looked at Nick and I was like, mental breakdown.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
He's like, it's coming earlier this year. Yeah, I just
don't do summer as well. I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
First question, did you find the dog?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, he was in the house. He was lost, running
around getting hit by a car. That's why I was
screaming at her. But apparently Ramsey did do what she
was supposed to and brought him in.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So does it not get easier than when the kids
get older because they've got friends to play with?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So you would think, so I thought, and for a
short time it kind of did. The problem is is like,
for instance, right now, I think I have five boys
at my house that I just threatened out of my
kitchen and like one you cannot speak, you can't do anything.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
You know, any had friends, you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Know, it's just like they're all at my house all
the time, or it's driving them, like they just make
all the plans like I need you driving here and
driving here and driving here, and it's just it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
It's just it literally is enough to like, yeah, Mike.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I feel like so many people can relate to that, though, And.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
How do I say this.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In my situation, it's a little different because our summer
schedule's week on, week off. Now, last year I made
the mistake of and you you warned me against it, you,
but I I have you know, normally I don't go
a week ever without seeing the kids. In our parenting plan,
(02:49):
it's always every Wednesday and every other Friday Saturday. And
so with summer, I remember, it's stressing me out so bad,
like I'm going to go a week without seeing my kids,
Like this is going to be awful. So I decided
that we could have the kids just come to my
house while he's working on my non weeks so I
can at least see the kids. Well, then when I
(03:10):
had my week, I didn't have any help, so it's
like I never really got a break. And then I
felt that kind of what you were feeling, just like,
and they're littles too, so it's even so that adds
its own element of hard. And so this year I
was like, Nope, you can't, even though I want them,
I want to see them but I also know the
(03:31):
importance of that break because if not like, yes, you're
I'm going to have that mental crack.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, and even if you have help in that week,
especially with the littles, it don't you're still coming mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So it's like, I don't think people fully understand that.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's like, because you know, so many people are like, well,
you're fortunate to have help because there's been there's been
summers where I've had a nanny or I've had help
or whatever. It's like, but if they're in the house,
it doesn't really matter because they're just constantly coming up
to you and constantly needing something.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
One million percent, Yeah, because I would have someone help
on his weeks. But yeah, I'm like, well, I might
as well not even have this person here because they're
coming to ask me questions twenty four to seven. So
and that's the same thing with kind of summer. Now
it's Jace is so he has to be so active.
Like even when I brought him on set, like Jolie
was the best set kid. She just like would just
(04:24):
sit there in color and watch Jace. He was there
for five minutes, He's like.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I bored. I want to go home or can we
go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So I'm like, oh man, So that's another reason why too,
where the set time got cut a little short because
so now in summer I'm like, all right, on my weeks,
like we have to be doing something because he's just
very like wants to be like active and going. But
then I'm like, all right, for that week I can't work.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I will say, you're very good at like delegating your
time with that, and I think that because I mean,
i mean you're very like, I know, like, okay, you
have the kids in the summer, like at this time
we can talk about work or whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm not good at that and I need to get
better at that. So then I just get stressed.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know, I should be working when I'm doing something
with the kids or I'm working, I'm like, I should
be doing something with the kids.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
And then it's just good.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, I mean I think that's also the same. I
mean when I was packing, studying lines and then finishing
my book and then I had the kids there, I'm like,
I feel so guilty because I have them. You know,
I put the TV on for them. But then they're
asking me questions and I'm like, I just need one hour,
Like I will play with you, swim with you. I
just need one hour. And it's like it's the It's
(05:37):
funny because when you ask for one hour, it's the
hardest hour to get. But then they'll play with by
themselves for an hour when I don't ask them for that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, that's the piece.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm like, this is infuriating you guys just played for
an hour by yourself when and I was like, and
I usually just let them when I like see them,
I'm like, all right, this is this is great, but
then I'm doing something else. But when I want to
work for one hour, then it's like my mom my, ma, mama.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I will say that gets a little easier as
they're older, Like, I mean, I have now threatened the
six boys in my house than Ammy. I'm like, you know,
it's it's a little bit better. Luckily, ramseason camp too,
so that's a little helpful.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But I mean I might as well just add a
baby on top of all this.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, totally fine, six kids, but don't let us work
during the summer.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now, I think what I'm gonna have to do is uh?
I think I'm gonna have to hire help.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, I think you will for sure. I mean it's
like you're definitely gonna have the baby obviously full time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Obviously, yes, you know the other ta Can you imagine
if I'm like, hey, Mike, here you go take the baby?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Hey pretty well? Am I taking the baby for a week?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There you go?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Has these?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Do you want any want to have these?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Uncle Mike?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I want to you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The other day though, and I go, wait, I didn't
have as a mental breakdown last summer.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I was like, because we had fifty to fifty last summer.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Was like, you want to go back to that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I was just gonna say, what is something that you
can do? Like can you do that? I know you
said you want to get better at it? So is
it a Catherine like take a take thirty like I
don't know, an hour, thirty minutes like this is this
is mom's time, like mom needs from this time to
this time, and then you just like put your head
in Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So I don't do great with just like thirty minutes
or an hour. My biggest thing, So yesterday I asked
for it. I said I need everybody out so Nick
took the puppy. They went to the farm and just
stayed there all day because the puppy's also an element.
And then Kateen came home from football but then immediately
went with his friends, and then Andy was out and
(07:50):
Ramsey was at camp. And so I do feel more
refreshed today because I had that like nine to three,
which sounds terrible, but like I just need, like I
need a chunk of time one day and then I
think I'm better the rest the other days.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right, good, So that's a since there's still so
much summer left, that's a good little goal to go.
But then also I think just to say too, just
to have your back. Oh, emails pop up all the time, right,
so it's it's socially like things come up, so you
need you need more than the hour, So I get that.
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But we can do Friday at the pool like we
talked about when I get back.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Which will be helpful because then we'll be face to face, right,
And then like one night. I used to do this
a lot when I worked in an office, and then
you know whatever, I one day I was like, Okay,
I'm not going to stress.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I'm just going to make sure that my emails nothing's urgent.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And then at night and I know that my pupil
looks white email, but like sometimes then I can get.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Quiet and then I just like do a bunch of
work when everybody's in bed.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Hey you do you do you? And whatever works for you.
So anyway, cheers the summer, Cheers the summer.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think again, a lot of moms can relate to that.
And I think, you know, you just got to find
that time. If it's one day, ask for whatever, like
you got this. We are going to take a break
and then we are going to get Kit Hoover on.
Do you remember her cat?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You've been with me when I've been around her before.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I's much to say. I thought, yeah, I thought I had.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So I was just with her back in when we
were promoting the Mario Lopez movie. She's on Access Hollywood
and Access Daily weekdays on NBC, but she's been a
host for a really long time. She was on Fox
News ESPN funny enough, our baby Mama isn't here, obviously,
but Kit was also on MTVS. She was the first
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season of MTV's Road Roles. So that's crazy, I know,
so funny.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But let's take a break and then get her on.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Congratulations, sayank you. Last time I saw you, I had
no idea this was coming. First of all, I have three.
How excited are you? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's I was so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because you know, my bestie up there, Catherine, she's got three,
and I'm now I'm just like, I just need to
talk to moms that have three, because I just need
to understand what And also I'm kind of worried about,
you know, is the age gap too much or so
I'm curious what's your age gap?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And so first of all, how old are your other two?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So, well, when he's born, my son will be my
son will be turning five, and my daughter will be
turning eight.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Perfect. I think that's great. So mine are there's a
four and five year age gap between. My daughters are
twenty one twenty and then my son's sixteen. And the
third though, Danna, you're just gonna it's like they're they're
like the pet, you know what I mean. I was
such a nerd and such a dork. I stood outside
her preschool class and just walked three hours like a lunatic.
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And then by the third literally He drove himself to
school at like age seven, like I just got I honestly,
I can't find him. He is so self sufficient. He
does his laundry, he makes his breakfast. Really for a
third little guy, it's so funny, it really is.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
What about the pregnancy, Like, how are you feeling this time?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I actually feel okay, I think, and just uh, you know,
I'm older, so I'll be my due dates on my
fortieth birthday. So I think that kind of makes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Me a little like, you know, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I didn't think I could get you know, like I
didn't think i'd get get pregnant. I just didn't think
I could.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So it's just it's all just like wow, it's really
just sinking in, like this is really happening.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So I got access Hollywood at age forty. I'm going
to be fifty three in July. Janna, You're gonna love
your forties so much. And then the fifties I'm just
obsessed with sort of everything comes into focus. You know
where you're going, you know what you want to do.
It is one of the best decades ever. I always
say to age like gratefully, like, now you're gonna have
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three little chickens, right, unbelievable career. I just I'm so
happy for you. I just wonder, I will say. With
my third pregnancy, though, some stuff was a little more interesting,
Like I had something going on down there that I
call the bloomin onion. I don't know what happened, but
there was a lot of pressure. And I had my
girlfriend meet me at Grand Central station and like look
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under there, and she was like, oh, Nelly, I don't
And my doctor was like, don't look below the belt,
just say stay up here. So things are a little
different as you get a little older with each pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
How old were you with your third, so.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Let's help me do the math here. So I was
thirty eight maybe so about the same as you it was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, I agree, I've got a hernia, I've got
a large fibroid. I've got I mean like I've just
got I'm like I look down the other day and
I'm like, holy swollen good.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I thought are like stretch marks, which I didn't
get with the first two. I just think my body
was like here we go. I do think maybe I
bounced back quicker or maybe I just was so focused
on the other two and now this baby. Oh this
was funny. Were you lucky enough to have a night
nurse with your first two?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So what we did is we did like two nights
a week just to get a little sleep.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But my fiance is like, no night nurse. I'm like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like you don't like it's so I was like, it's
so good for both of us to get sleep, Like
even if it's just one night a week, like for
the first month.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Tell him to slow his role because with my first
two we had no money. Oh there was no night nurse.
And I remember I got mestitis and I was just like,
this is exhausting. And I remember thinking, oh my goodness,
like I don't know how people do this. So with
the third the same thing. I got mistitus. The breastfeeding
thing was tough for me, and by that point I
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didn't care and I was like, I need a night nurse.
And I'm not kidding Janet, like a fourteen year old
somebody that I I showed to put my door, that's
what I felt like. I didn't do any background check.
I was like, nice to meet you, here's the baby,
and it changed my life, like and the same thing.
We did it two nights a week and it just
allowed you to catch up. So for any mom if
they're lucky enough. I know it's expensive and I couldn't
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do it my first two, but holy cow, that's a
game changer. That's why fancy celebs can have all these
babies because I'm like, oh my goodness, if I had
a night nurse, I would have had seventeen.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, but yeah, they're so expensive. But again, it's that's
what I was trying to tell Alan. I'm like, babe,
it's worth it, Like for you, you are going to
be exhausted and then like that'll then affect just everything
else the next day. So you know, like we just
let's just let's just signure try it a better person.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's also did you have any postpartum with your other.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I didn't know, luckily.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I mean I had the random like I remember
my ex walked in.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was just crying and I was like, I don't
even know why I'm crying, but it's just coming.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Out, you know what. I think it's the sleep deprivation
for a lot of us, right with those first who
it's like, oh my god, it's just ground Paul Day right,
just living for icemom. We used to live for nap
time and when there was two naps, it was like yes,
and then they go to one nap and then of course,
wait till the teenagers like, oh, Nelly, it gets so fun.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, Kat Scotts, she's got a teenager.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And then well, I guess Emmy as hell old out.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
She's eleven, so she's a preteen. Caden's sporteen, which I mean,
he's great. I feel like boys, I don't know, they're
not too crazy, not too hard, but I mean this
year is like he's living his best life.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
He's the most.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Social, like you go everywhere, wants to do everything, which
I love.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
But I'm just like, I can't keep up with him.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's great. So Kat, tell me what you have, what
ages and what sex?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Fourteen year old boy, eleven year old girl, seven year
old girl?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Okay, so that's yeah. Boys I think are effortless. They're
just on the move and so fun. I feel like
my son's like a golden retriever, you know what I mean,
on the move. Wait till you get both of you
and your daughters get teenagers. I thought, oh my gosh,
Campbell and Hayes are never going to turn on me, like,
never go through that phase. Boom, was I wrong? They're
going to go through it all. My best advice for
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both of y'all with middle school. I don't know why
they saved me, but middle school girls they're just they
can be nasty. There's a lot of like movement which
I don't really remember as much in school, but maybe
I'm just you know, waxing poetic and remembering it like
it was all great. But I stayed home on Friday
nights with my husband. I never asked my daughters if
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they had planned. I just felt like Friday, when I
picked them up from middle school, I wanted to come
home and let them have like a safe haven. So
never asked they had plans. I always made like a
fun dinner and we'd just put a movie on and
not even ask like do you want to watch? Just
make it so if they were home, it was effortlessly
fun and it turned out to be great because that way,
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if they were ditched at school or if somebody was mean,
Friday night just evolved. You know, it was just a
fun family thing. So it was a really nice thing.
Looking back. They both told me they didn't know that
I was doing that by design. They're like, MOhm, that
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Never ask if they have plans, because if they don't,
they already feel bad about it, you know what I mean.
I just was of like, we're awesome. Like I just
would pick them up, you know, go make our ice
cream sundays, whip up a dinner. We'd put on Farris
Fielder's Day Off or some silly movie and just made
it like an effortless thing. And then sometimes they'd have
friends over or not. But middle school girls are very funky.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, that's already started for fifth grade for my daughter. Yes,
this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you know they have phone when where my daughter
has a phone, and so I you know, I go
through it and stuff, and I'm just like, I'm not
ready for middle school.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
If this is what's going to be, like, well.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Think about it like when we were younger. And again
I know I sound eighty seven, but like you never
looked at pictures of yourself, right, I mean Schmer just
did this in her stand up and it's so true,
like you maybe had like one picture a year that
or maybe two. If your friends developed now they're constantly
looking comparing, know where everybody's going. I would hate that.
I think I was oblivious to who was doing what it's.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Been knowing where everyone's going that has just been the hardest.
And I'm like, that's so true. Like you felt left
out if you were at school and someone was leading
you out. You didn't know what people were doing on
the weekends and in the summer. But now everyone knows,
and everyone's feelings are hurt, and I'm just like, it's
a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's a lot. And again, my girls had social media
way early in phones. I just sort of, you know,
I kind of I never took it away or whatever.
And then I had a deal when they were teenagers.
I said, look, here's the deal. I'm not checking your
phone unless you give me a reason too. But if
I feel like there's a need, I'm gonna get it.
Has you know, who knows what in the world. Sometimes
(19:03):
they're they're going through but it's uh, well, guys, I'll
be here for you for that, guys. Patience.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm just gonna be like every year, I'm gonna be like, okay,
am I on track?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Help me?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But I always tell my girls too, I'm like, look,
your looks are your least interesting thing about you? Like
be kind, funny, aren't be like it's just you know
this day and age, I think for both of you,
just leading by example and laughing. I just god, they're
so serious nowadays, So yeah, they really are. I just
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like humor for girls and a little bit of self deprecation,
Like if you can laugh at yourself, you win, And
I mean that in a healthy way. So yeah, I
kind of it's a good thing for girls too.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Switching gears to the interviewing side of things. By the way,
you are one of my favorite people to ever be
with an in an interview or just like you're just
your energy, all of it, Like I just I love you.
Has it been because you've obviously done a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Is there.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Something that you're like, I would love to do this
that I haven't done, Like would you want to have
your own show? Or I know right now you're with Mario.
Is there some like what are you like? This would
be awesome?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
First of all, thank you for that, Dana. I appreciate that.
I love interviewing people. I've never you know, I started
in the Winnebago in TV, So for me, it was
never about fame or looks or trying to do this.
I really just like connecting with people. And I think
my dream thing now would be, which is why this
is so great, is do sort of a podcast with
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just straight interviews with women over forty fifty sixty kicking
ass because I feel like it used to be as
a woman you were dead in the water no matter
what you did after thirty. I was just talking to
Halle Berry about this and I'll like, you know what,
and now she just did an MMA movie and nobody
looks finer than her, and it's less about looks and
more about an attitude. So I just think it's fascinating
(21:09):
what women are doing. You're having your third baby at
thirty nine or a right doing you turn forty, hitting
the fourth level and your life is about to totally
open up for you and Kat I don't know how
you feel about that too, but I just I feel
this resurgence, which is great for us and our daughters.
And I mean, I'm gonna be fifty three and it
feels like I honestly feel like I haven't even gotten started.
(21:29):
For everything that I want to do, I think there's great, positive, fun,
raw stories to tell. So I love that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh you would be amazing. I would listen to your
podcast and Harpy, It'd be so good.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I want to make it like The hen House, where
like we get together with a big group find out,
like what do we really want to know? Like I'm
interviewing Janet Kramer, what do we want to know? When
I get all the questions from everybody, right, and then
we just dive in.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Is it hard for you though?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like I remember when you interviewed me and my ax,
Like is it hard for you to hold back on
certain things you want to ask?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yes, I'm always for me. There's a couple of things.
I'm not a gotcha person, and I feel like everybody's
got a story that they can share what they want
to share. So like when you were on with your ex,
I just wanted to be careful, right, there's human hearts involved,
and especially if there's kids involved, and so I'm just
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never one I care about the person more than I
do about the interview or the TV show or get
in a moment, oh my gosh. And for y'all, I'm
terrible on the red carpet because if you're talking to me,
I'm never gonna not talk to you. And they're saying
brad Ted's coming up behind you or whatever, like I can't.
I just want to be present with whoever I am
because I wouldn't want that to be me that somebody
like ditches to go to a bigger person. So in
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red carpet they're like, you're too long with Like, like
whoever I'm with, I can't. I'm like, I don't want
to make them feel bad because I'd be that person,
you know. And I also I feel like if somebody,
especially when I'm live, if somebody says something natural protector like,
I just want to jump in and make sure they're okay.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So you're and you're great with that because there's so
many like you know, which outlet's going to go try
and like dig it in to get the story, and
you were so respectful. I think that's why I've always
just loved loved you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
On that note, have there been any certain celebrities that
have just been outright rude to you?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And let me think, let me think, I love these questions.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You know what, I know, same, same, same, and I
want to give you an honest answer. The funny thing
with me, and this is with friendships and everything, I
sort of always forget if anybody's bad, and I just
sort of my add I'm just like onto the next
like squirrel, So I forget a lot too. I'm going
to think about somebody as I'm thinking about that. A
funny one though, y'all, is I was on the red
carpet with Mario for that I think it was the
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Golden Globes, and I really wanted to interview Brad Pitt.
I was like, I was set for him, but at
the time that Brad Pitt came up I was interviewing,
I forgot who it was and said Brad Pitt went
to Mario and Mario did a great interview with him. So, y'all.
Then I started drinking champagne on the red carpet. So
it's wrapped and I go to leave and I bump
right into Brad like this, and I panic and I say, hey,
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Brad kit Pit here, I'm like, and he said what
he stops and he's like maiden or married, and I
said maiden and I was like, And then I followed
up with and I love architecture and a lot of children,
and my producer's like, what are you doing? And then
the paparazzi started snapping pictures of us and I am
smiling like the cat he wait, the canary right there
(24:41):
like y And then his people were like, we got
to get you away from this lunatic. So it was
one of the funniest Like I just sort of geeked out.
I don't know what happened, and I went full kit pit. Okay,
let me think. I'm trying to think of who's been
who's been rude. I don't want say this is rude,
but it was the first the only person when we
were live that moved where they wanted to sit. And
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keep in mind, on our show, we've had George Clooney,
Julia Roberts, Matthew McConaughey, like all these big names, and
Ariana Grande back in the day was the only one
that didn't like her angle. And I want to say,
at the time, I think she was on the Disney Show,
like she didn't really hit where she is yet. And
she was also just so young, like I mean, I
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wouldn't know which side I've got it, you know, but
she was the one that like needed certain things which
I just found interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's like being on Regis and uh, well now Mark
or sorry Kelly and Mark and being like can I
take can I take your ce Kelly?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I always say it, it's like the sit and what well, Jenna?
What about for you? On the opposite end, who's been rude?
With the interviews You've had to navigate and you've had
to You've been so raw and vulnerable and real, which
I always appreciate as an interviewer or just somebody. That's
that's why so many people love you too, and your
music translates. Who's been kind of do she to you?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I would say it's more reporters. Like there's a certain
reporter that I have a really hard time with because
something had happened and I even sent her proof of
something like this is not true. Why would you run
the story? AND's she goes, well, you can post about
it on your story and then I'll run that. I
go all you care about is the drama?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, I literally just sent you proof of something and
you're still going to run this other story. How could
you do that?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And so that was just like, oh my god, they
don't care.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So it was a publication that I was so I
try to really steer away from that publication now.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Like again, it goes back to like the middle school
like that people just.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Want the drama.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, but I would say, I mean, I'd have to
think back to but normally. And Kat is also like
my day day manager. She's pretty like good, you know.
And I also, like, I'm very open about things. So
I get you asking the question because I've been open,
so I don't fault someone for bringing up something.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I've put it out there, so it's now mine to
then go, Okay, I've kind of moved on. I'm not
going to talk about it or I'm just going to
give a little snippet just because I get the question,
you know, so let me now how to figure out how?
And I think that's what I had to learn, is
how now I have to answer things.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Well, you're become so great at it, and again, never
stop being raw and real. I think that's kind of
all we have. And keep good people like Kat in
your corner. I think that's it too, right. For sure,
many people are around you, but it's the business has
become so crazy and when I started it was very different,
and coming from sports was different because athletes are a
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different perspective of what you're trying to get. By the way,
I look so sporty that you know.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It looks so cute on a run after this.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
So I was like, Okay, let me just do it.
But I was so excited to talk to you. But
so your athletes are different than celebrities, and musicians are different.
Now you're both with the celebrity.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I don't know, but Cat Katherine, you we were before
the show. We were talking about the view and so Kay,
I know you wanted to ask her a question about that.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
So curious how that was, because it just every time
I watch it, I'm like, I can't keep up, Like
there's so much fighting, there's so many different Like how
was that co hosting of.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You, Kat Jannet? Let me tell you so. First of all,
I had just had my first baby. So this is
twenty years ago and I was on with Barbara star
Joy in Meredith Okay, so like the ogs and I'm
so young, and I think they thought I'm from Atlanta.
I think they thought, Okay, here comes this like conservative Republican,
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which I don't even know what I was at the time,
but I think they wanted me in a box. I
was scared to death, y'all. The funniest thing was I
agree with everybody. Yep, yes, Starr. You were in the backup,
see Barbara were like. I was like, I am not
doing this, and so I had my parents watch because
they had made me an offer, and my dad was like, no,
they are going this isn't your fact. I'm not a
(29:07):
naturally conflict person. I don't enjoy fighting or you know,
all that kind of stuff. So they were wonderful with
me on, but I didn't get into it. You know what,
Donald Trump came on, isn't that hysterical? And I just
remember Meredith and I pulling his hair. That was oh.
And Sharon Stone came on, who I just love and
(29:28):
I'll never forget. And I hope if she hears this,
this is out a respect, not disrespect. I'm backstage and
right before she walks out, she goes like this and
then walks Nobra on and I thought, well you go,
and I thought she looked fabulous.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well you can't have you know, hard titties on uh
National TV.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Like oh I love her love, oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, yeah, I always because I I'll sometimes turn the
view on and a part of me always have I've
one of my little goals or future things as I'd
love to be on a round table.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I just think it'd be so much fun.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
But that's the one round table that I just feel
like i'd get eaten alive at because I almost feel
like if you don't agree with their stuff, you're just
gonna get yelled at and hated, and I that piece
I just don't like. I'm like, can we just agree
to disagree and be kind when we do that?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yes, one hundred percent. And on that, I mean you've
seen kind of the younger person in the seat. It's
funny for me to y'all because I was always like
the young one, like they brought me around twice for
each time to go on that. And now I'm like,
oh wait, I'm not that would be the young Like
I'm the old bird in the seat, like that's how
much time go by, which just cracks me up. But
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you're right, that is one. Now the talk is different
because that's a great pan. I love that small guaranteee friendship.
What's in the zeitgeys that kind of thing. But yeah,
but the view is Wow, They've got a great group
around there and a good table. But for me, it
was not a good fit. What's funny with life is
when it came around the second time and they were
(31:03):
interested in me. Now I'd had no I'm pregnant with
my second daughter. The same time, ESPN came to me
about hosting this two hour live sports show seven to
nine in the morning called Cold Pizza, y'all. At this point,
I had never been teleprompter. I'd never done live TV.
I love sports, but I don't know it like my
husband does. Why I thought this was a good idea.
(31:26):
I'm just dumb enough to like leap without looking that.
I'm like, oh, I'll try this. So it was new baby.
I went to work after three weeks, Danna Kat, I'd
never like live TV is a nuanced thing, like you
got to know your thing. You got to know prompter,
you got to know that opening music would start and
sweat would go down my back. I did not know
(31:47):
what I was doing, and the joke was they thought
i'd get better a little quicker. It took a long
time for me. I think it was like six months,
and I was like, okay, I kind of know what
I'm doing, but two Hours Live was crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, I mean again, look at you now, you're absolutely
crushing it, and you know you're I really hope you
do the podcast too, because it is it's inspiring people
to go because I know there's things that you know,
maybe Kat want to do, my Chris and are their
co hosts that just had a baby, like, there's things
that we all want to do, but we feel, well,
I'm forty, it's never it's probably not going to happen now,
(32:21):
and it's you know, you're you're proving that wrong and
you're going to have people come on that that also
proved that wrong. So I think I would keyes do
the podcast one thousand percent. And what's funny, So at
age forty, the joke was, at the time of my life,
I had three kids, our house had just burned down,
which is a whole other side thing.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And so the joke is that I said to my
agents like, hold all calls, I'm gonna I'm going to
take a personal beat. But the reality Cat and Jane,
nobody was calling, nobody was looking for me, like nothing,
And then randomly I got this call for Access Hollywood,
and I only took it and moms can relate to
this to get away for the kids and like a
free trip to California we had, you know. So I
(33:01):
was like, I was like, I don't even care, just
take me to California for the interview. I went in
like this baseball had no makeup. I had strap throat actually,
and I was like, and everybody was real fancy in
this audition and like I was like, I had my
shoes that I just got it PJ Max, and I
had tanned myself, so my legs were real slippery, and
I botched the audition. And then afterwards they brought me
(33:23):
in and talked to me for a couple hours and
then I was like, wait, do y'all like like, are
you interested in me? And so the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I love that. Well, we have someone that wants to
say hi to you too, because you were her former boss.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Hannah wakeo, man, this better for you. Hannah was my
actually my second assistant, right because crazy Nadine Nadini left
and Hannah came and changed my life. Yeah for three years. Yeah,
Winkelman is such a star. And I remember she was
dating the cutest boy way back when. Now her husband
(33:59):
and they're baby. I'm obsessed with Hannah. All I was
thinking is how happy your mom must be. She's very excited.
She comes out to La about every three weeks like
she can't and Kat and Jane and I will be realistic.
Not everybody has like a cute baby. He is literally
a super mid I cannot get enough. I want to
(34:19):
eat up that little face.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Chris had said that he was like, I think the
only person who thinks he's cuter than you might be
Kit Hoover.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I'm like, not everybody's got that. Wait, Hannah, and look
and now you're EP and you're doing so great at
work and have such a great life. I'm so happy
for you. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
It's so good to see you. I'm so happy you're
still doing well. And the kids and how about the kids,
Camberlin Hayes. I was just telling them that you're EP
of this podcast and I was going to get to
see you, and they were like, oh my gosh. She
was so nice at all the ihearts been used and
all that.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
It's crazy, Hannah.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
It's been a while ride, but a fun fact Kit
introduced me to Amy Sugarman, who oh.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
All the pod go and you know what I always
say about hand drive and commitment. She was always the
hardest worker, up for anything and for anybody getting in
whatever business you are, Like, Hannah, you couldn't have predicted
this would be your trajectory, so I think it's so awesome.
Thank you. It's so good to see you. Baby. Is
he close? He's napping? Wake him up. I'm kidding, don't
(35:24):
wake a baby. I know we'll have to come visit
you and the Access crew. Please do, Hannah, you won't recognize.
It's all new people. I'm last man standing. We love
Bob and Weave.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thank you so much and I'll hopefully see you when
the baby's out.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Thanks Jana, listen, good luck with everything. I hope you
feel good, get a lot of foot massages and just
enjoy third is so much fun. Okay, thanks guys, Thanks
Thanks Janna, Thanks kat Y, nice to meet you, and
bye bye, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I love her so much. Like my cheeks hurt from smiling.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Her energy is amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I just she just is so and that's how
she is too in just interviews too, and just how
she is every time I see. She's always kind, she's
always nice.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I mean, do you remember her now when we went
to do the Mario thing.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, I mean the fact that she couldn't even really
think about who is rude to her because she just
like moves on from it. I'm like, I'm gonna be
that way, like not even remember.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Anyone that's rude to me. Like I love that. It's
such a good quality, so true.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
But yeah, I just I love her so much, and
I think, yeah, because I sometimes think that we go, oh,
it's too late, but it's never too late.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah, oh no, yeah, never loving I love it.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, since I can't have my big fortieth blowout, we're
going to have a mad fifty.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
So that's good because I honestly can't afford my fortieth
birthday party anymore with the new house.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
So I think it's because you're having anything under.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
A little bit above.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I can't do it all and then plan a wedding
and have the wedding expense there was there We go,
oh man, all right, well we will see you next week.
Host
Jana Kramer
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