January 17, 2024 • 42 mins
Sophia is back, and she is answering your questions!
After a health scare, Sophia reveals she is learning to prioritize her health and working on not putting herself last. She admits this election year has made her anxious, and there have been a few sleepless nights . . . she details how she is coping with that, and she also gives tips on how to talk to someone with opposing political views.
Plus, Sophia shares her favorite coffee order and the most requested dish she loves to make when hosting an event!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, It's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. Hello friends,
Welcome back to work in progress. I cannot believe it
is the middle of January. Time doesn't exist, or I
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guess perhaps does, but feels melty and crazy and weird.
It's been so nice to ease into the new year
with all of you. I'm still really reeling in a
good way from last week's incredible conversation with Ava Duvernet.
I have loved getting your feedback and hearing about how
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you all felt so inspired by her. She really is
just one in a million, and I have to say
thank you. She said that the minute we shared about
the movie and talked about Seat sixteen, which, for those
of you who might have missed last week seeks Seat
sixteen dot com is where you can log on and
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buy a ticket to Origin for a teenager, and it
also comes with a free year of masterclass. Ava Duvernet
is teaching a class on directing on Masterclass, and so
it's really such an amazing way to pay it forward
for a young person, especially because young people are the
ones most affected by these crazy book bands happening around
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the country. And I really do believe, as she said,
that we can't triumph unless we learn the truth of
our history. And it's why Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast is
so important. It's why the film that Ava made about
that book origin is so moving and special. And the
thank you comes in because she said that when we
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shared about seat sixteen dot com on the podcast and
on Instagram, that the orders for tickets for teenagers across
the country came pouring in faster and in greater numbers
than she had seen from so many other things. So
I just have to thank you all. I always say
that the folks who signed up to go on this
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advocacy journey with me on social media and joined me
here on the podcast, y'all are like first responders to me.
You're the people who show up, who always speak up,
who are really encouraged to support one another in the
world around you. So I just really want to say thanks.
It's moving to me, it's moving to her, it's moving
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to the folks involved in the movie, and I just
cannot wait to hear what y'all think. Since it's coming
out this Friday. I can't believe it. It's so exciting,
the nineteenth that's almost here, So please gather yourselves, gather
your friends, take five people to the movie theaters with you,
because what happens is movies like this that have limited
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theatrical releases around the country. When they have big first weekends,
that's another week that these films stay in theaters. And
I know you guys have heard me say this on
repeat for the last week, but I really do think
this is one of the most important movies ever made.
So that's my gratitude, that's my PSA, that's my promos.
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Let's all take up the fact that we can kind
of be the studio for this movie. We can. We
can groundswell it and take our loved ones and our
friends and our families to see this and hopefully do
something really special for such a beautiful piece of art.
Now this week, you've probably noticed that it's just me
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talking to you. There is nobody here with me, and
that's because the really cool overlap of having this podcast
and then doing Drama Queens with my One Tree Hill
girlies is that we get a lot of feedback now
on two shows, and a lot of you have said, hey,
we really wish that Sophia would do Q and as
on work in progress like the gals do on Drama Queens,
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and we thought, okay, let's give it a shot. So,
as we are halfway through the first month of this
new year, and I think we're all trying to figure
out what twenty twenty four is going to look like,
we thought it might be a nice time to check in.
So with no further ado, let's jump into the questions
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that y'all sent. The first one that comes in on
our list from c Rosenbauer, I actually think is perfect
when we reference twenty twenty four. The question is how
are you taking care of yourself during this election year
when anxiety runs high? Ugh, that's hard. I gotta be honest.
I find that I'm struggling to sleep well. I think
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seeing what's happening out there in the world, you know,
seeing me, and I don't want to be all doom
and gloom. To be clear, I'm going to interject on
myself and say there will be some uplifting things shared today.
But like Avias says, you really have to be honest
about where you're coming from. If you want to triumph,
we have to really pay attention, you know, and we
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got to take people at face value when they tell
us who they are and what their plans are. We
really do have to listen. And it is very scary
to me that the GOP has a front runner who
is echoing the language of Adolf Hitler, who is saying
horrific things about immigrants. That runs down the line in
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that party. And you know, you've got the governor of Texas,
Greg Abbott, talking about how he'd be shooting immigrants if
the federal government wouldn't prosecute him and his border agents
for murder. I mean, this is like wild stuff we're
talking about, you guys. You know, these are the moments
I think when people in our generation and in all
these you know, peer groups that we're all in, say like, well,
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how did everything happen in the nineteen thirties, you know,
how did the Third Reich come into power? How did
nobody say anything like this really does feel like our
moment where we have to say things, where we have
to get very clear on what's happening and what we're seeing,
and it's up to us to say we won't tolerate that.
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You know, I think strong men and I don't mean
that as a compliment, not like men who are strong.
I mean strong men like dictators and terrible people. When
they watch a lack of pushback to the sort of
dangerous power that they try to grab, it emboldens them
to go further. And I think the twenty sixteen election
emboldened a lot of really horrible things in our country.
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And for me, the way I try to sort of
stand in the face of these hard truths and also
not be totally petrified is to remind myself that we
can have differences of opinion, we can have different beliefs
about how we can achieve certain policies and create pathways
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to opportunity for people to move forward. But what we
cannot do is allow for options of harm and hate
for other people to ever be on the table. And
for me, I really think that if we can be
together a little more, if we can have conversations like this,
if we can ask each other good questions, will be
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reminded that we're a lot more similar than we are different,
and that people who are indicted and who've been convicted
of crimes, and who are doing really terrible things to
try to grab power and use that power to hurt
other people, they just need to not be options. And
so I say that maybe that doesn't sound like the
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perfect utopia answer you want. I know it doesn't feel
like that to me, But I believe if we're ever
going to get to a point where we build a utopia,
if we're ever going to get to a point where
we actually see a country that meets its founding ideals
for all of us, not just for some, I really
believe we have to be a little pragmatic and look
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at what our options are and figure out how to build,
you know, building that world we want to see. It's
not like AI rendering a three D model of a house.
It's like you got to build the legos. You have
to use the pieces you have, and you have to
artfully build them into something better. And so we have
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to figure out who our best options are, and we've
got to make sure that the better option always gets elected,
and then that we the people hold them to account.
And I know maybe that's not the shiny answer everybody wants,
but it is the way forward, I think, and certainly
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something I've had to learn in the last you know,
twenty years of volunteering and working in these spaces and
being on campaigns, whether they're you know, small local ones
or big national ones really seeing that the system works
if we work it. But that democracy is a verb.
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It's not just like a thing that someone's going to
do for us out there in the ether. We really
have to apply pressure and remind people that we're watching.
But that makes me feel excited for us. That makes
me feel inspired because it means that we have collective power.
And that's why when I think about, like what does
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utopia look like? When I think about these big, beautiful
terms like collective liberation, we have to exercise our power
to get there. So I quell the anxiety by being
honest about what's happening and reminding myself how powerful we
are and committing to showing up to use that power.
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So I really do hope that you all, despite how
overwhelming I know things can feel, sometimes are bolstered by
the reminder that together, I think we've got this. Also,
I will say, if you need a place to start,
you can text the word voter voter to two six
seven nine seven. It is the really simple text bot
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that we built for I am a voter. It will
not overtext you, it will not give your number to
anyone else. But what it will do is take a
little bit of information from you, like your zip code,
and make sure you have your up to date voter registration,
you're polling locations, all of the things that you need
to make sure are current so that you can exercise
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your voice and you can exercise your power. So that
would be my step one. And yeah, knowing that I'm
in this with all of you definitely makes it a
little bit easier. Lindsay wants to know how do you
balance productivity and rest? Okay, real talk. I think this
is something that we all are struggling with. I do
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not know a single person that feels like they have
nailed the productivity and rest kind of seesaw balance. There
are so many things that beg for our attention, so
many people that we care about and want to, you know,
be in touch with and be in community with, and
things going on in the world, and you know, we're
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still in a pandemic, and we are watching horrific things
happen around the world, like from trying to do your
own personal to do list to looking at what's happening
out there. I think things just feel overwhelming. But one
of the things that really has been kind of like
a light bulb for me recently was hearing that rest
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is not a reward for productivity. Rest exists for rest,
and I thought, oh boy, like I do need to
kind of recalibrate the way I think about those terms
in action, because if I'm constantly marching through my to
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do list and often not getting to the bottom, and
by often I mean like not ever. If when I'm resting,
I'm just thinking, Okay, well, once I'm recharged, I'll be
able to be productive again, that's not really rest, is it.
Like if I'm sitting there feeling guilty that I'm not
doing all the things, but I'm not doing all the
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things because I'm exhausted. That doesn't feel great. So what
I'm really trying to do instead of think about how
to balance them, is how to let them be two
separate things. Let rest be for rest and tap into
the fact that I feel more easily productive when I
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am rested. I think having a pretty intense personal pandemic
health scare last summer really clarified the need for a
better relationship with, you know, rest in my own body
for myself, and I know a lot of us have
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been there, you know, these last couple of years, especially,
so I think that is sort of the beginning, at
least for me, is not to rest as a reward
for productivity, but really to look at them as two
separate ingredients in my life, two separate you know, boxes,
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and maybe detach them from each other a little bit
feels like a start. Lindsay, if you have an answer,
please feel free to send it to us, or if
anybody has an answer. Honestly, if you have good tips
for how you all do this, we'd love to hear
about it from you. Maybe we can talk about those
at the top of our next Q. And A Georgia
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wants to know what is the best lesson you learned
from twenty twenty three? Oh boy, well, that really relates
to Lindsay's question. Health is the most important thing, you know,
and that maybe that sounds cliche. Everybody talks about it,
you know. You hear people go like health as wealth,
but it really is true. If you are not healthy,
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nothing else really works. And I think your health can
really indicate the sort of quality of so many other
things in your life. And for me, having to get
really still and take care of myself when I got
so sick over the summer really also came you know
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now in hindsight, it's like everything is clear in hindsight, right,
You can kind of understand the meaning of things that
in real time you don't have the bandwidth or even
perhaps capability to explore. But I think there was something
sort of spiritual about a lot of things in my
life coalescing around the same time and and really pointing
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me in the direction that you cannot continue to put
yourself last on your list of importance, and you cannot
just keep your head down and keep working and keep
doing the work and keep showing up for other people
and other things stop. You know, what do you need?
How can you learn to better take care of yourself?
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How can you really listen to what your heart, mind,
and body are trying to say to you? And that's
a big lesson. And I think it's something that people
work on their whole lives. I know it's certainly something
that I feel like I've worked on for a long time.
I feel like I've been you know, curious and honest
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and introspective and all those things. But really it really
kind of cracked open in twenty twenty three, and I
saw that for so many people in my life, and
even people who I don't know, but that I know of,
and I don't think that's an accident. I think there's
something in the air right now where we're all really
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sort of coming home to ourselves. And maybe that's because
we lost millions of people around the world, you know,
to a disease over the last three years. Maybe it's
because we're more connected than ever and really seeing what's
going on in the world around us in new ways.
I don't really know what the answer is, but I
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know that I had it happen to me, and I
watched it happen to a lot of other people, and
so I think I think really taking stock and really
learning to care for myself was it was a big
lesson this year. We'll be back in just a minute,
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but here's a word from our sponsors. This is a
sweet question. Really wants to know would you ever consider
writing book? And then said something very sweet. You have
so much knowledge to pass on. That's very kind. I
feel like I am always learning. I often feel like
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I go up a rung on the ladder of knowledge
in my life and then realize maybe I didn't never
know anything before. So I don't know. I don't know
that I necessarily feel like I have a lot of
knowledge to pass on. What I do think I have
is a willingness to listen and to learn and to share.
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You know, sometimes I think we want to make everything
look so clean and glossy on the Internet that we
don't really dig underneath. And some of my favorite people
and certainly favorite writers, really have used their lives to
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encourage conversation for all of us about our lives, for
all of us, about the things that are universal, the
things that we share. You know, I'm thinking about women
like Maggie Smith and Glennon Doyle and Krista Tippett does
that on her podcast on being. There's so many people
who remind me of those sorts of depths. I got
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to I got to actually be the voice of an
audiobook last year, a book about Mary Oliver, Wild and Precious,
and it was so special to me because Mary Oliver
is one of my favorite writers, and she reminds me,
you know, to show up with my full self, and
she reminds me to be really clear in my willingness
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to inspect and then to learn, and because I'm learning
to change my mind, and yeah, maybe that's something, Maybe
that's something I should write about soon. I guess we'll see.
Elise asks what music have you been listening to lately? Oh? My,
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I went through a sort of classic jazz holiday phase.
I really love dipping into Louis Armstrong and Frank Sinatra
and all the kind of greats over the holiday season.
There's just something about vintage holiday music that makes me
so happy. So it's funny mid January to see that
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all my music listening apps are still trying to tell
me to listen to old Christmas music like Eartha Kit Christmas.
It's kind of great. But I have actually been listening
to a lot of podcasts lately, and then at night,
like if I have background music on, I've been doing
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a lot of Teddy Swims radio. I just think he's
so wildly talented. He's one of those people who started
posting amazing videos early endemic days. They kind of hit
my radar and I went, who is this person? And yeah,
he's on repeat in my house a lot lately. I
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want to know what you guys are listening to. If
you're listening to this not in your car, and so
you can safely pick up your phone and send us
a message. Hit us up and let us know what
you're listening to. Maybe we'll make a playlist. This is
a great question from Claire. How often do you get
out in nature? Are you a forest or ocean lover? Okay,
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I love to be out in nature. I don't get
out in it as often as I would like. I'm
actually trying to institute a better habit of walking in
the mornings. My friend Libby has this incredible platform called
This Morning Walk, and she really really inspires me, and
so I made it out on a beautiful walk this morning.
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I am definitely I would say I am first a
forest lover. I love the mountains and lakes and forests
and you know, big incredible trees. One of my favorite
things to do actually when I'm out in the woods
is to just record the sound of the wind in
the trees. I have so many random videos on my
phone of just the sounds that leaves make in the wind.
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I'm obsessed. But I would say that the ocean is
a close second for me. I just think there's something
really healing about it. I also really like being reminded
of how small we are. You know, there's something really
cool to realize you're part of this really vast and
kind of unknowable space. It's probably why I like space
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so much. I've been obsessed with all things you know,
NASA and outer space since I was a little kid,
and I cry watching like every single space movie that's
ever been made. So I don't know, I don't know
what that says necessarily, but I do know that I
really appreciate being reminded about how sort of big and
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beautiful and incredible the natural world is. And it's definitely
on my whether we call it a resolution or intentionless
this year, to be out in it more and more
and more. Marin asks, what are your new ventures for
twenty twenty four. Well, besides doing Q and as with
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all of you here on work in progress, I'm really
really looking forward to the twenty sixth of January a
film I did called Junction, which was written and directed
and starred in by my lovely friend Brian Greenberg, who
many of you probably know as Jake Tagalski from One
Tree Hill. Brian is such an incredible performer and creative
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and thinker, and he wrote this beautiful movie about the
opioid crisis and family and addiction and love and how
hard this all can be and it's really breathtaking, and
I'm so excited to be in the movie, and I'm
just so excited for you all to see it. So
that feels really fun. And then there's a couple of
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things in the works that I'm not really allowed to
talk about, but I can say I think you're all
going to be so excited when I can. So twenty
twenty four is definitely shaping up to be a very
good year. Lindsay asks, what is something you are looking
forward to? Oh, my goodness, I'm looking forward to a
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lot this year, and I think most immediately, I think
most immediately, I'm really looking forward to my whole industry
being able to get back to work. You know, it's
hard going through these movements, in these milestone years of
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labor history and advocacy, Like it's really tough to watch
a lot of people struggle and have to go through
these you know, periods of job and security, and it's
really exciting to start to think about all of us
being able to get back on sets together and to
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be reunited with you know, our crews and our casts.
That all just feels timely. And so after a season
of you know, some hibernating and some restorative health work
and those things I really feel motivated and excited to
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go back to. You know, I always joked like my
day job work, and that feels nice. It feels really
really good to be looking forward to getting back on
a set. Tailor asks how did you get involved in politics?
And what are important issues to you? You know, those
things are really tied together. It's why I when I
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talk about you know, acting, producing, directing, those things like
that that I talk about as my day job, because
no matter what sort of politics and advocacy really feel
like a full time calling for me. You know, it's
the stuff I'm working on on my lunch breaks and
on my days off. I think what the AHA moment
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was for me was realizing that my day job provides
such an incredible megaphone to audiences of people. And you know,
people show up to watch TV and see movies because
they care about people's stories. And politics is just the
policy that's made based on our stories, based on what
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we need, based on the human condition, and so to
be able to activate an audience, sure on a TV show,
but also around early childhood education, you know, access to
resources for kids, clean air, and water these things that
should be rights for all of us really feels like
a no brainer. And for me, all of those issues
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also feel really tied together. And I've definitely had people
say to me through my career, Oh, you have to
pick a lane, Oh you have to pick an issue,
But I don't agree with that. I think that some
people do really well when they work on one thing
and focus on one thing, and I think some of
us are really meant to draw the parallels between groups
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of issues for people, especially if you have the privilege
like I do of talking to large groups of humans.
You know, if I get to talk to a couple
million people every day online, I can't assume all of
those people are going to care about one issue. But
if I can highlight how a group of issues intersect
and inspire people in that audience to each get involved
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in an issue, I feel like that's the coolest thing
that I could be doing with my time that is
not work, but is about calling. And so that was
really it for me. Hallie asks, how do you handle
interacting with people who have different views? Ooh, this is
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getting spicier and spicier, isn't it. But that comes back
to this idea of advocacy as well. We are so
much more alike than we think we are, And I
think if I've learned anything over the years, it is
to push back ferociously on elected officials who are making
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decisions with their views that hurt people, who are weaponizing
their opinions to hurt people. But I think in terms
of you and me, in terms of all of us
out there in the world, the best way to interact
with someone who has a different view is just to
ask them about it, and if they've got a talking
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point that you might know to be untrue, say well,
where'd you hear that? Or what made you think that?
You know, to really begin to interact with someone, to
have a conversation, but have it in a way that
feels human, I think is how you can build a
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lot of bridges. And I think we also have to
be really clear on who we ask to do those things.
You know, we cannot put the most work in terms
of bridge building on the people who are the most
harmed or the most at risk in society. That's when
a lot of the rest of us need to figure
out how we can use our own privilege and our
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own power to to kind of stand up for other
folks who maybe don't have as much. I think that's
really important. But I always come to tell me about
who you are, tell me about your family, tell me
what you care about, and I bet I'll be able
to point out that we actually believe a lot more
of the same things than you might think. And I
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think that's a really good place to begin. And now
a word from our sponsors who make this show possible.
Ash asks what do you do when you feel stuck
or unmotivated? Don't we all? I think that goes back
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to the question about rest. I've started to ask myself
not just what should you be doing right now, but
do you need to rest? Are you tired? Do you
need ten minutes to sit and stare at the wall?
Did you sleep well last night? You know, check in,
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check in on how you're actually doing. And then I think,
you know, especially for someone like me who has a
little bit of task paralysis, you know, really common ADHD thing,
figuring out how to plug into my my more motivated side,
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the part of me that when I get started on
something that I love, I could just do it all day.
I think is really about taking the pressure off a
little bit you know, rather than looking at a to
do list and going I just have so much to
do and I'm so exhausted, and I don't know how
I'm going to get all this done, and I just
don't even know where to start. Is saying well, what
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are three things I could do today? What are three
things I could do in the next hour? Off this
whole list, and I think just taking a little bit
of the pressure off to get everything done while also
trying to just get moving. Just get one foot in
front of the other for a couple of steps, and suddenly,
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before you know it, you've got momentum that I think
is a really good way to get unstuck. If there's
anybody at home listening who happens to be, you know,
on mental health worker or expert, and you have tips
on getting unstock rounmotivated, also drop those in a little
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note to us. We would love to hear your studied
tips and tricks. Let the work in progress people know. Well,
this is a fun shift. Susan asks what is your
favorite dish that you cook when you're hosting? Oh my goodness,
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I love to host. I love to have people over
and gather folks around a table to break bread and
talk and laugh. It's really one of my favorite things
to do. And a couple months ago I started making
this really bomb chicken and couscous dish that honestly is
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so good. People request it now and it's become something
that I do probably every ten to fourteen days in
my house, and so that at current is my favorite
thing to serve, To cook and serve when I'm hosting.
I love all the food and drink questions. You guys,
you know me, You know that that is my love language.
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Caitlin asks, what is your go to coffee order? I
either do an Americano just like you know, a classic
pulled black coffee, or I do an almond milk latte.
I just love. Yeah, I love a good latte. One
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of my friends recently got me on oat milk flat whites.
But sometimes I just want like a bigger cup of coffee.
I'm one of those people A'll nurse a cup of
coffee for two hours. I just like to have it around,
So I tend to go for a slightly larger option.
And Cassie asks, what is your morning routine and what
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do you do for self care? Ugh? I dream of
being a person with a morning routine. You guys, It's
truly one of those things that I think is so
grown up and so cool. I think because I went
from you know, I was in high school, I was
in college for three years, and then I went straight
onto the set of One Trio, where every day, the
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hours are different every day, the call times are different
every day, the sets are different every day, the dialogue
you're doing is different. I've never been able to have
a morning routine because I spent you know, a decade
doing that for a show, and then jumped onto Partners
and jumped onto PD. Everything has been, you know, this
sort of whirlwind. I didn't get any slow down time
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until the pandemic hit and then starting in the fall
of twenty twenty one, we were shooting up in Toronto.
So I'm really coming to terms with the fact that
because I'm so used to set hours and set timing
and getting my call sheet at night and then figuring
out what i have to do the next morning, I've
never created a morning routine. And I just think it
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sounds so cool, like the idea that you could get
up at the same time every day and have these
things that you do for yourself. I realize the irony
of being an adult woman who you know, pays a
mortgage and like produces television, saying it sounds so grown
up to me when people have morning routines, but it
really does you guys. Maybe that's one of the things
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I should work on as an intention for the new year.
This is sort of hitting me in this moment. Do
you all have morning routines? And if so, what are they?
Will you please DM them to us or put those Actually,
I'm realizing this in real time. We should do that
as a question box on our socials because I would
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love to know how you guys build your morning routines
and also how do you stick to them, because let's
be realistic, like the days that I don't have to
get up, you know, and start on zooms at eight am,
or jump onto early podcasts or be on set at
four in the morning, like I'm snoozing. Someone just sent
me a Mel Robbin's clip about why you're not supposed
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to snooze, and it blew my mind and I was like,
we're at row I'm going to have to change that
habit real quick. So I would actually love to know
I'm going to I'm going to turn this podcast on
all of you and tell you that I would really
love to know how you build your morning routines and
how do you actually stick to them. I think I'm
also one of those overly ambitious people who when I
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say I'm going to do something like that, I make
a list of thirty things I have to do in
the morning, and that's just not realistic. So will y'all
tell me what your routines are and how you've actually
managed to make them doable. I would really love that. Oh, Jessica,
you're sweet. Jessica asked, how is your health? I've been
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worried about you. Yeah, the end of the middle of
last year into this fall was really hard. You guys,
it's a wild thing when and it shouldn't seem so shocking, right.
You know, we're in a global pandemic. We've lost millions
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of people, and we have millions more people who have been,
you know, dramatically affected, and some of whom are are
now disabled because of these illnesses. I'm incredibly lucky that
my experience with post viral syndrome resolved itself. I mean
I still check in regularly at the doctor, like I
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get monitored and I will, you know, for a full
year just to be sure of that. But I truly,
when I tell you, thank my lucky stars that after
three really scary months, I kind of came out of
the valley that I was in that I worried might
be permanent. It's it's a really sobering experience. It's a
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really humbling experience to get sick like that. And you know,
it was also overlapping with like a pretty gnarly time
in my life. None of it was easy, But I
will say, and maybe this is just because I have
to figure out what things mean in order to sort
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of understand them. When I look back, I definitely think
there was I definitely think there was a big lesson
in all of that. And I think learning to slow
down and learning to really listen to myself and my
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body my heart changed my life in a good way.
And I think I've I've known that stuff, right, Like
you can kind of point at your temple and be
like I know this up here, but like do I
know it in here? Do I know it in my chest?
Do I know it in my body? You know? Have
I carried what I intellectually know into my knowing into
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my bones. And this was a really big season of
integrating knowledge into knowing for me, And so I really appreciate,
you know, that people were concerned that people check in.
I'm trying to figure out, you know how, and if
I want to talk about that more. It's a weird
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thing to be a public health advocate and then to
go through your own personal version of a public health
crisis and be like, do I want to sort of like,
for lack of a better term, violate my own like
hip hop protections. Do I want to really talk about
everything I experienced being sick? Does that feel personal and sacred?
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I don't totally have the answer yet. I feel like
by now, you guys probably know that it takes me
a while to really process things. And once I've figured
them out and I feel like I understand them, almost
like once I've written the whole chapter, then I can
let other people read it that kind of energy. I'm
still kind of writing it all down figuratively. But I
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do really appreciate that people were checking in, and I did.
I did feel really blessed that I was. I like,
we went from summer, we literally transitioned into the beginning
of fall. It was early September and I got cleared
to travel, and it was right before this family trip
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to Italy that we'd been working on for years and
organizing this family reunion, and we had, you know, over
fifty people, five generations of our family in one place.
And the fact that I did not have to miss that, like,
let me tell you what, people use that phrase, like
you know, your angels were looking out for you, however
you want to say it. I really really felt lucky
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that all of that kind of happened on the calendar
in that way, and that I got to be there
with my family and my parents. It was very special.
So thank you so much for checking in and for
your concern. And I'm okay, it sounds cheesy, but like
I really do think everything happens for a reason, and
so I will take it. I will take it. All
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of the lessons and all of the learning. Let's see,
And this is actually kind of a great last question, Megan,
What a simple but profound thing. Megan asks, how are you?
I am? I am growing and grateful and learning a
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lot about patience, I think, and that's that's really good.
I'm happy and thank God healthy, and I do not
take any of that for granted, and I will say
I wish that for all of you, you know, happiness
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and health, and I hope that if you're going through
growing seasons that you can see that they're going to
take you to even better places. I believe it, and
I certainly think all of you who show up, you know,
for this show about curiosity tells me you're all special
and kind and curious humans, and those are my favorite
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kind of people. So thank you for being here, thank
you for your great questions, and we will do more
and more of these. I really I love getting to
build this community in this podcast with all of you,
So thanks for letting us know you wanted us to
do this, and we'll keep it rolling. Have a great week,
you guys,
Hi everyone, It's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. Hello friends,
Welcome back to work in progress. I cannot believe it
is the middle of January. Time doesn't exist, or I
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guess perhaps does, but feels melty and crazy and weird.
It's been so nice to ease into the new year
with all of you. I'm still really reeling in a
good way from last week's incredible conversation with Ava Duvernet.
I have loved getting your feedback and hearing about how
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you all felt so inspired by her. She really is
just one in a million, and I have to say
thank you. She said that the minute we shared about
the movie and talked about Seat sixteen, which, for those
of you who might have missed last week seeks Seat
sixteen dot com is where you can log on and
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buy a ticket to Origin for a teenager, and it
also comes with a free year of masterclass. Ava Duvernet
is teaching a class on directing on Masterclass, and so
it's really such an amazing way to pay it forward
for a young person, especially because young people are the
ones most affected by these crazy book bands happening around
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the country. And I really do believe, as she said,
that we can't triumph unless we learn the truth of
our history. And it's why Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast is
so important. It's why the film that Ava made about
that book origin is so moving and special. And the
thank you comes in because she said that when we
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shared about seat sixteen dot com on the podcast and
on Instagram, that the orders for tickets for teenagers across
the country came pouring in faster and in greater numbers
than she had seen from so many other things. So
I just have to thank you all. I always say
that the folks who signed up to go on this
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advocacy journey with me on social media and joined me
here on the podcast, y'all are like first responders to me.
You're the people who show up, who always speak up,
who are really encouraged to support one another in the
world around you. So I just really want to say thanks.
It's moving to me, it's moving to her, it's moving
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to the folks involved in the movie, and I just
cannot wait to hear what y'all think. Since it's coming
out this Friday. I can't believe it. It's so exciting,
the nineteenth that's almost here, So please gather yourselves, gather
your friends, take five people to the movie theaters with you,
because what happens is movies like this that have limited
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theatrical releases around the country. When they have big first weekends,
that's another week that these films stay in theaters. And
I know you guys have heard me say this on
repeat for the last week, but I really do think
this is one of the most important movies ever made.
So that's my gratitude, that's my PSA, that's my promos.
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Let's all take up the fact that we can kind
of be the studio for this movie. We can. We
can groundswell it and take our loved ones and our
friends and our families to see this and hopefully do
something really special for such a beautiful piece of art.
Now this week, you've probably noticed that it's just me
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talking to you. There is nobody here with me, and
that's because the really cool overlap of having this podcast
and then doing Drama Queens with my One Tree Hill
girlies is that we get a lot of feedback now
on two shows, and a lot of you have said, hey,
we really wish that Sophia would do Q and as
on work in progress like the gals do on Drama Queens,
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and we thought, okay, let's give it a shot. So,
as we are halfway through the first month of this
new year, and I think we're all trying to figure
out what twenty twenty four is going to look like,
we thought it might be a nice time to check in.
So with no further ado, let's jump into the questions
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that y'all sent. The first one that comes in on
our list from c Rosenbauer, I actually think is perfect
when we reference twenty twenty four. The question is how
are you taking care of yourself during this election year
when anxiety runs high? Ugh, that's hard. I gotta be honest.
I find that I'm struggling to sleep well. I think
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seeing what's happening out there in the world, you know,
seeing me, and I don't want to be all doom
and gloom. To be clear, I'm going to interject on
myself and say there will be some uplifting things shared today.
But like Avias says, you really have to be honest
about where you're coming from. If you want to triumph,
we have to really pay attention, you know, and we
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got to take people at face value when they tell
us who they are and what their plans are. We
really do have to listen. And it is very scary
to me that the GOP has a front runner who
is echoing the language of Adolf Hitler, who is saying
horrific things about immigrants. That runs down the line in
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that party. And you know, you've got the governor of Texas,
Greg Abbott, talking about how he'd be shooting immigrants if
the federal government wouldn't prosecute him and his border agents
for murder. I mean, this is like wild stuff we're
talking about, you guys. You know, these are the moments
I think when people in our generation and in all
these you know, peer groups that we're all in, say like, well,
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how did everything happen in the nineteen thirties, you know,
how did the Third Reich come into power? How did
nobody say anything like this really does feel like our
moment where we have to say things, where we have
to get very clear on what's happening and what we're seeing,
and it's up to us to say we won't tolerate that.
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You know, I think strong men and I don't mean
that as a compliment, not like men who are strong.
I mean strong men like dictators and terrible people. When
they watch a lack of pushback to the sort of
dangerous power that they try to grab, it emboldens them
to go further. And I think the twenty sixteen election
emboldened a lot of really horrible things in our country.
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And for me, the way I try to sort of
stand in the face of these hard truths and also
not be totally petrified is to remind myself that we
can have differences of opinion, we can have different beliefs
about how we can achieve certain policies and create pathways
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to opportunity for people to move forward. But what we
cannot do is allow for options of harm and hate
for other people to ever be on the table. And
for me, I really think that if we can be
together a little more, if we can have conversations like this,
if we can ask each other good questions, will be
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reminded that we're a lot more similar than we are different,
and that people who are indicted and who've been convicted
of crimes, and who are doing really terrible things to
try to grab power and use that power to hurt
other people, they just need to not be options. And
so I say that maybe that doesn't sound like the
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perfect utopia answer you want. I know it doesn't feel
like that to me, But I believe if we're ever
going to get to a point where we build a utopia,
if we're ever going to get to a point where
we actually see a country that meets its founding ideals
for all of us, not just for some, I really
believe we have to be a little pragmatic and look
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at what our options are and figure out how to build,
you know, building that world we want to see. It's
not like AI rendering a three D model of a house.
It's like you got to build the legos. You have
to use the pieces you have, and you have to
artfully build them into something better. And so we have
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to figure out who our best options are, and we've
got to make sure that the better option always gets elected,
and then that we the people hold them to account.
And I know maybe that's not the shiny answer everybody wants,
but it is the way forward, I think, and certainly
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something I've had to learn in the last you know,
twenty years of volunteering and working in these spaces and
being on campaigns, whether they're you know, small local ones
or big national ones really seeing that the system works
if we work it. But that democracy is a verb.
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It's not just like a thing that someone's going to
do for us out there in the ether. We really
have to apply pressure and remind people that we're watching.
But that makes me feel excited for us. That makes
me feel inspired because it means that we have collective power.
And that's why when I think about, like what does
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utopia look like? When I think about these big, beautiful
terms like collective liberation, we have to exercise our power
to get there. So I quell the anxiety by being
honest about what's happening and reminding myself how powerful we
are and committing to showing up to use that power.
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So I really do hope that you all, despite how
overwhelming I know things can feel, sometimes are bolstered by
the reminder that together, I think we've got this. Also,
I will say, if you need a place to start,
you can text the word voter voter to two six
seven nine seven. It is the really simple text bot
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that we built for I am a voter. It will
not overtext you, it will not give your number to
anyone else. But what it will do is take a
little bit of information from you, like your zip code,
and make sure you have your up to date voter registration,
you're polling locations, all of the things that you need
to make sure are current so that you can exercise
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your voice and you can exercise your power. So that
would be my step one. And yeah, knowing that I'm
in this with all of you definitely makes it a
little bit easier. Lindsay wants to know how do you
balance productivity and rest? Okay, real talk. I think this
is something that we all are struggling with. I do
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not know a single person that feels like they have
nailed the productivity and rest kind of seesaw balance. There
are so many things that beg for our attention, so
many people that we care about and want to, you know,
be in touch with and be in community with, and
things going on in the world, and you know, we're
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still in a pandemic, and we are watching horrific things
happen around the world, like from trying to do your
own personal to do list to looking at what's happening
out there. I think things just feel overwhelming. But one
of the things that really has been kind of like
a light bulb for me recently was hearing that rest
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is not a reward for productivity. Rest exists for rest,
and I thought, oh boy, like I do need to
kind of recalibrate the way I think about those terms
in action, because if I'm constantly marching through my to
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do list and often not getting to the bottom, and
by often I mean like not ever. If when I'm resting,
I'm just thinking, Okay, well, once I'm recharged, I'll be
able to be productive again, that's not really rest, is it.
Like if I'm sitting there feeling guilty that I'm not
doing all the things, but I'm not doing all the
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things because I'm exhausted. That doesn't feel great. So what
I'm really trying to do instead of think about how
to balance them, is how to let them be two
separate things. Let rest be for rest and tap into
the fact that I feel more easily productive when I
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am rested. I think having a pretty intense personal pandemic
health scare last summer really clarified the need for a
better relationship with, you know, rest in my own body
for myself, and I know a lot of us have
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been there, you know, these last couple of years, especially,
so I think that is sort of the beginning, at
least for me, is not to rest as a reward
for productivity, but really to look at them as two
separate ingredients in my life, two separate you know, boxes,
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and maybe detach them from each other a little bit
feels like a start. Lindsay, if you have an answer,
please feel free to send it to us, or if
anybody has an answer. Honestly, if you have good tips
for how you all do this, we'd love to hear
about it from you. Maybe we can talk about those
at the top of our next Q. And A Georgia
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wants to know what is the best lesson you learned
from twenty twenty three? Oh boy, well, that really relates
to Lindsay's question. Health is the most important thing, you know,
and that maybe that sounds cliche. Everybody talks about it,
you know. You hear people go like health as wealth,
but it really is true. If you are not healthy,
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nothing else really works. And I think your health can
really indicate the sort of quality of so many other
things in your life. And for me, having to get
really still and take care of myself when I got
so sick over the summer really also came you know
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now in hindsight, it's like everything is clear in hindsight, right,
You can kind of understand the meaning of things that
in real time you don't have the bandwidth or even
perhaps capability to explore. But I think there was something
sort of spiritual about a lot of things in my
life coalescing around the same time and and really pointing
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me in the direction that you cannot continue to put
yourself last on your list of importance, and you cannot
just keep your head down and keep working and keep
doing the work and keep showing up for other people
and other things stop. You know, what do you need?
How can you learn to better take care of yourself?
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How can you really listen to what your heart, mind,
and body are trying to say to you? And that's
a big lesson. And I think it's something that people
work on their whole lives. I know it's certainly something
that I feel like I've worked on for a long time.
I feel like I've been you know, curious and honest
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and introspective and all those things. But really it really
kind of cracked open in twenty twenty three, and I
saw that for so many people in my life, and
even people who I don't know, but that I know of,
and I don't think that's an accident. I think there's
something in the air right now where we're all really
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sort of coming home to ourselves. And maybe that's because
we lost millions of people around the world, you know,
to a disease over the last three years. Maybe it's
because we're more connected than ever and really seeing what's
going on in the world around us in new ways.
I don't really know what the answer is, but I
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know that I had it happen to me, and I
watched it happen to a lot of other people, and
so I think I think really taking stock and really
learning to care for myself was it was a big
lesson this year. We'll be back in just a minute,
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but here's a word from our sponsors. This is a
sweet question. Really wants to know would you ever consider
writing book? And then said something very sweet. You have
so much knowledge to pass on. That's very kind. I
feel like I am always learning. I often feel like
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I go up a rung on the ladder of knowledge
in my life and then realize maybe I didn't never
know anything before. So I don't know. I don't know
that I necessarily feel like I have a lot of
knowledge to pass on. What I do think I have
is a willingness to listen and to learn and to share.
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You know, sometimes I think we want to make everything
look so clean and glossy on the Internet that we
don't really dig underneath. And some of my favorite people
and certainly favorite writers, really have used their lives to
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encourage conversation for all of us about our lives, for
all of us, about the things that are universal, the
things that we share. You know, I'm thinking about women
like Maggie Smith and Glennon Doyle and Krista Tippett does
that on her podcast on being. There's so many people
who remind me of those sorts of depths. I got
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to I got to actually be the voice of an
audiobook last year, a book about Mary Oliver, Wild and Precious,
and it was so special to me because Mary Oliver
is one of my favorite writers, and she reminds me,
you know, to show up with my full self, and
she reminds me to be really clear in my willingness
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to inspect and then to learn, and because I'm learning
to change my mind, and yeah, maybe that's something, Maybe
that's something I should write about soon. I guess we'll see.
Elise asks what music have you been listening to lately? Oh? My,
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I went through a sort of classic jazz holiday phase.
I really love dipping into Louis Armstrong and Frank Sinatra
and all the kind of greats over the holiday season.
There's just something about vintage holiday music that makes me
so happy. So it's funny mid January to see that
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all my music listening apps are still trying to tell
me to listen to old Christmas music like Eartha Kit Christmas.
It's kind of great. But I have actually been listening
to a lot of podcasts lately, and then at night,
like if I have background music on, I've been doing
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a lot of Teddy Swims radio. I just think he's
so wildly talented. He's one of those people who started
posting amazing videos early endemic days. They kind of hit
my radar and I went, who is this person? And yeah,
he's on repeat in my house a lot lately. I
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want to know what you guys are listening to. If
you're listening to this not in your car, and so
you can safely pick up your phone and send us
a message. Hit us up and let us know what
you're listening to. Maybe we'll make a playlist. This is
a great question from Claire. How often do you get
out in nature? Are you a forest or ocean lover? Okay,
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I love to be out in nature. I don't get
out in it as often as I would like. I'm
actually trying to institute a better habit of walking in
the mornings. My friend Libby has this incredible platform called
This Morning Walk, and she really really inspires me, and
so I made it out on a beautiful walk this morning.
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I am definitely I would say I am first a
forest lover. I love the mountains and lakes and forests
and you know, big incredible trees. One of my favorite
things to do actually when I'm out in the woods
is to just record the sound of the wind in
the trees. I have so many random videos on my
phone of just the sounds that leaves make in the wind.
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I'm obsessed. But I would say that the ocean is
a close second for me. I just think there's something
really healing about it. I also really like being reminded
of how small we are. You know, there's something really
cool to realize you're part of this really vast and
kind of unknowable space. It's probably why I like space
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so much. I've been obsessed with all things you know,
NASA and outer space since I was a little kid,
and I cry watching like every single space movie that's
ever been made. So I don't know, I don't know
what that says necessarily, but I do know that I
really appreciate being reminded about how sort of big and
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beautiful and incredible the natural world is. And it's definitely
on my whether we call it a resolution or intentionless
this year, to be out in it more and more
and more. Marin asks, what are your new ventures for
twenty twenty four. Well, besides doing Q and as with
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all of you here on work in progress, I'm really
really looking forward to the twenty sixth of January a
film I did called Junction, which was written and directed
and starred in by my lovely friend Brian Greenberg, who
many of you probably know as Jake Tagalski from One
Tree Hill. Brian is such an incredible performer and creative
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and thinker, and he wrote this beautiful movie about the
opioid crisis and family and addiction and love and how
hard this all can be and it's really breathtaking, and
I'm so excited to be in the movie, and I'm
just so excited for you all to see it. So
that feels really fun. And then there's a couple of
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things in the works that I'm not really allowed to
talk about, but I can say I think you're all
going to be so excited when I can. So twenty
twenty four is definitely shaping up to be a very
good year. Lindsay asks, what is something you are looking
forward to? Oh, my goodness, I'm looking forward to a
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lot this year, and I think most immediately, I think
most immediately, I'm really looking forward to my whole industry
being able to get back to work. You know, it's
hard going through these movements, in these milestone years of
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labor history and advocacy, Like it's really tough to watch
a lot of people struggle and have to go through
these you know, periods of job and security, and it's
really exciting to start to think about all of us
being able to get back on sets together and to
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be reunited with you know, our crews and our casts.
That all just feels timely. And so after a season
of you know, some hibernating and some restorative health work
and those things I really feel motivated and excited to
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go back to. You know, I always joked like my
day job work, and that feels nice. It feels really
really good to be looking forward to getting back on
a set. Tailor asks how did you get involved in politics?
And what are important issues to you? You know, those
things are really tied together. It's why I when I
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talk about you know, acting, producing, directing, those things like
that that I talk about as my day job, because
no matter what sort of politics and advocacy really feel
like a full time calling for me. You know, it's
the stuff I'm working on on my lunch breaks and
on my days off. I think what the AHA moment
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was for me was realizing that my day job provides
such an incredible megaphone to audiences of people. And you know,
people show up to watch TV and see movies because
they care about people's stories. And politics is just the
policy that's made based on our stories, based on what
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we need, based on the human condition, and so to
be able to activate an audience, sure on a TV show,
but also around early childhood education, you know, access to
resources for kids, clean air, and water these things that
should be rights for all of us really feels like
a no brainer. And for me, all of those issues
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also feel really tied together. And I've definitely had people
say to me through my career, Oh, you have to
pick a lane, Oh you have to pick an issue,
But I don't agree with that. I think that some
people do really well when they work on one thing
and focus on one thing, and I think some of
us are really meant to draw the parallels between groups
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of issues for people, especially if you have the privilege
like I do of talking to large groups of humans.
You know, if I get to talk to a couple
million people every day online, I can't assume all of
those people are going to care about one issue. But
if I can highlight how a group of issues intersect
and inspire people in that audience to each get involved
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in an issue, I feel like that's the coolest thing
that I could be doing with my time that is
not work, but is about calling. And so that was
really it for me. Hallie asks, how do you handle
interacting with people who have different views? Ooh, this is
(27:24):
getting spicier and spicier, isn't it. But that comes back
to this idea of advocacy as well. We are so
much more alike than we think we are, And I
think if I've learned anything over the years, it is
to push back ferociously on elected officials who are making
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decisions with their views that hurt people, who are weaponizing
their opinions to hurt people. But I think in terms
of you and me, in terms of all of us
out there in the world, the best way to interact
with someone who has a different view is just to
ask them about it, and if they've got a talking
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point that you might know to be untrue, say well,
where'd you hear that? Or what made you think that?
You know, to really begin to interact with someone, to
have a conversation, but have it in a way that
feels human, I think is how you can build a
(28:29):
lot of bridges. And I think we also have to
be really clear on who we ask to do those things.
You know, we cannot put the most work in terms
of bridge building on the people who are the most
harmed or the most at risk in society. That's when
a lot of the rest of us need to figure
out how we can use our own privilege and our
(28:50):
own power to to kind of stand up for other
folks who maybe don't have as much. I think that's
really important. But I always come to tell me about
who you are, tell me about your family, tell me
what you care about, and I bet I'll be able
to point out that we actually believe a lot more
of the same things than you might think. And I
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think that's a really good place to begin. And now
a word from our sponsors who make this show possible.
Ash asks what do you do when you feel stuck
or unmotivated? Don't we all? I think that goes back
(29:37):
to the question about rest. I've started to ask myself
not just what should you be doing right now, but
do you need to rest? Are you tired? Do you
need ten minutes to sit and stare at the wall?
Did you sleep well last night? You know, check in,
(29:59):
check in on how you're actually doing. And then I think,
you know, especially for someone like me who has a
little bit of task paralysis, you know, really common ADHD thing,
figuring out how to plug into my my more motivated side,
(30:24):
the part of me that when I get started on
something that I love, I could just do it all day.
I think is really about taking the pressure off a
little bit you know, rather than looking at a to
do list and going I just have so much to
do and I'm so exhausted, and I don't know how
I'm going to get all this done, and I just
don't even know where to start. Is saying well, what
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are three things I could do today? What are three
things I could do in the next hour? Off this
whole list, and I think just taking a little bit
of the pressure off to get everything done while also
trying to just get moving. Just get one foot in
front of the other for a couple of steps, and suddenly,
(31:06):
before you know it, you've got momentum that I think
is a really good way to get unstuck. If there's
anybody at home listening who happens to be, you know,
on mental health worker or expert, and you have tips
on getting unstock rounmotivated, also drop those in a little
(31:26):
note to us. We would love to hear your studied
tips and tricks. Let the work in progress people know. Well,
this is a fun shift. Susan asks what is your
favorite dish that you cook when you're hosting? Oh my goodness,
(31:48):
I love to host. I love to have people over
and gather folks around a table to break bread and
talk and laugh. It's really one of my favorite things
to do. And a couple months ago I started making
this really bomb chicken and couscous dish that honestly is
(32:11):
so good. People request it now and it's become something
that I do probably every ten to fourteen days in
my house, and so that at current is my favorite
thing to serve, To cook and serve when I'm hosting.
I love all the food and drink questions. You guys,
you know me, You know that that is my love language.
(32:32):
Caitlin asks, what is your go to coffee order? I
either do an Americano just like you know, a classic
pulled black coffee, or I do an almond milk latte.
I just love. Yeah, I love a good latte. One
(32:54):
of my friends recently got me on oat milk flat whites.
But sometimes I just want like a bigger cup of coffee.
I'm one of those people A'll nurse a cup of
coffee for two hours. I just like to have it around,
So I tend to go for a slightly larger option.
And Cassie asks, what is your morning routine and what
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do you do for self care? Ugh? I dream of
being a person with a morning routine. You guys, It's
truly one of those things that I think is so
grown up and so cool. I think because I went
from you know, I was in high school, I was
in college for three years, and then I went straight
onto the set of One Trio, where every day, the
(33:39):
hours are different every day, the call times are different
every day, the sets are different every day, the dialogue
you're doing is different. I've never been able to have
a morning routine because I spent you know, a decade
doing that for a show, and then jumped onto Partners
and jumped onto PD. Everything has been, you know, this
sort of whirlwind. I didn't get any slow down time
(34:02):
until the pandemic hit and then starting in the fall
of twenty twenty one, we were shooting up in Toronto.
So I'm really coming to terms with the fact that
because I'm so used to set hours and set timing
and getting my call sheet at night and then figuring
out what i have to do the next morning, I've
never created a morning routine. And I just think it
(34:26):
sounds so cool, like the idea that you could get
up at the same time every day and have these
things that you do for yourself. I realize the irony
of being an adult woman who you know, pays a
mortgage and like produces television, saying it sounds so grown
up to me when people have morning routines, but it
really does you guys. Maybe that's one of the things
(34:46):
I should work on as an intention for the new year.
This is sort of hitting me in this moment. Do
you all have morning routines? And if so, what are they?
Will you please DM them to us or put those Actually,
I'm realizing this in real time. We should do that
as a question box on our socials because I would
(35:08):
love to know how you guys build your morning routines
and also how do you stick to them, because let's
be realistic, like the days that I don't have to
get up, you know, and start on zooms at eight am,
or jump onto early podcasts or be on set at
four in the morning, like I'm snoozing. Someone just sent
me a Mel Robbin's clip about why you're not supposed
(35:29):
to snooze, and it blew my mind and I was like,
we're at row I'm going to have to change that
habit real quick. So I would actually love to know
I'm going to I'm going to turn this podcast on
all of you and tell you that I would really
love to know how you build your morning routines and
how do you actually stick to them. I think I'm
also one of those overly ambitious people who when I
(35:50):
say I'm going to do something like that, I make
a list of thirty things I have to do in
the morning, and that's just not realistic. So will y'all
tell me what your routines are and how you've actually
managed to make them doable. I would really love that. Oh, Jessica,
you're sweet. Jessica asked, how is your health? I've been
(36:11):
worried about you. Yeah, the end of the middle of
last year into this fall was really hard. You guys,
it's a wild thing when and it shouldn't seem so shocking, right.
You know, we're in a global pandemic. We've lost millions
(36:31):
of people, and we have millions more people who have been,
you know, dramatically affected, and some of whom are are
now disabled because of these illnesses. I'm incredibly lucky that
my experience with post viral syndrome resolved itself. I mean
I still check in regularly at the doctor, like I
(36:53):
get monitored and I will, you know, for a full
year just to be sure of that. But I truly,
when I tell you, thank my lucky stars that after
three really scary months, I kind of came out of
the valley that I was in that I worried might
be permanent. It's it's a really sobering experience. It's a
(37:15):
really humbling experience to get sick like that. And you know,
it was also overlapping with like a pretty gnarly time
in my life. None of it was easy, But I
will say, and maybe this is just because I have
to figure out what things mean in order to sort
(37:36):
of understand them. When I look back, I definitely think
there was I definitely think there was a big lesson
in all of that. And I think learning to slow
down and learning to really listen to myself and my
(37:59):
body my heart changed my life in a good way.
And I think I've I've known that stuff, right, Like
you can kind of point at your temple and be
like I know this up here, but like do I
know it in here? Do I know it in my chest?
Do I know it in my body? You know? Have
I carried what I intellectually know into my knowing into
(38:20):
my bones. And this was a really big season of
integrating knowledge into knowing for me, And so I really appreciate,
you know, that people were concerned that people check in.
I'm trying to figure out, you know how, and if
I want to talk about that more. It's a weird
(38:41):
thing to be a public health advocate and then to
go through your own personal version of a public health
crisis and be like, do I want to sort of like,
for lack of a better term, violate my own like
hip hop protections. Do I want to really talk about
everything I experienced being sick? Does that feel personal and sacred?
(39:05):
I don't totally have the answer yet. I feel like
by now, you guys probably know that it takes me
a while to really process things. And once I've figured
them out and I feel like I understand them, almost
like once I've written the whole chapter, then I can
let other people read it that kind of energy. I'm
still kind of writing it all down figuratively. But I
(39:29):
do really appreciate that people were checking in, and I did.
I did feel really blessed that I was. I like,
we went from summer, we literally transitioned into the beginning
of fall. It was early September and I got cleared
to travel, and it was right before this family trip
(39:52):
to Italy that we'd been working on for years and
organizing this family reunion, and we had, you know, over
fifty people, five generations of our family in one place.
And the fact that I did not have to miss that, like,
let me tell you what, people use that phrase, like
you know, your angels were looking out for you, however
you want to say it. I really really felt lucky
(40:16):
that all of that kind of happened on the calendar
in that way, and that I got to be there
with my family and my parents. It was very special.
So thank you so much for checking in and for
your concern. And I'm okay, it sounds cheesy, but like
I really do think everything happens for a reason, and
so I will take it. I will take it. All
(40:40):
of the lessons and all of the learning. Let's see,
And this is actually kind of a great last question, Megan,
What a simple but profound thing. Megan asks, how are you?
I am? I am growing and grateful and learning a
(41:09):
lot about patience, I think, and that's that's really good.
I'm happy and thank God healthy, and I do not
take any of that for granted, and I will say
I wish that for all of you, you know, happiness
(41:29):
and health, and I hope that if you're going through
growing seasons that you can see that they're going to
take you to even better places. I believe it, and
I certainly think all of you who show up, you know,
for this show about curiosity tells me you're all special
and kind and curious humans, and those are my favorite
(41:51):
kind of people. So thank you for being here, thank
you for your great questions, and we will do more
and more of these. I really I love getting to
build this community in this podcast with all of you,
So thanks for letting us know you wanted us to
do this, and we'll keep it rolling. Have a great week,
you guys,
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