April 25, 2024 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
But this last place I went to seemed to see it,
even though they didn't know a lot about wrestling, but
their knowledge of wrestling was respectful. So I'm really hopeful,
really nervous, and really disappointed right now, all at the
same time. And I don't know what to say. Ladies
(00:23):
and gentlemen, are you ready shuts about to hit the fan?
Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays in Wrestling with Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Everyone, It's Thursday or whatever day you're listening to us.
It is unsanctioned Thursdays. The name of the show doesn't change,
and the host stone either with me as Jeff Di
I'm Freddie Prince Junior. Or let's start the show, all right, Jeff,
I've promised an update, a weekly update on my wrestling promotion,
and here we go. I'm actually going to read a
(00:58):
text from and I might have all right, all right, okay,
so I have good news and bad news.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So the first place I went to, although I already
thought they were going to pass because it had been
a while, the first place I went to passed, and
I don't want to like bury them and put their
name out there. So that's super disappointed. I'm legit just
read that, you guys and reacting to this right now,
so bear with me. So that's super disappointing and frustrating.
(01:27):
Although I will say, in hindsight, and I may have
even said this last week, they didn't ask a lot
of the questions that you would get from someone who
was excited about wrestling. They were much more basic and
respectful questions. So maybe they were just being polite in
taking the meeting. I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it
because I'm disappointed. The second place I went to, they
(01:48):
asked a ton of questions, very very specific questions. The
text said, without saying too much, that they are leaning
towards saying yes. So that's very much good news. I
have another meeting after we record this, just a couple
hours after we record this, actually, which is the third
of six. I haven't booked the final two, so right
(02:11):
now it's the third of four, but we potentially have
six places that we're going with it, and I'm really
I haven't been nervous about the other two places, but
I'm really nervous about this place. It's a bigger studio,
so it's a harder sell. The smaller places have been
the ones that have given me more love. As far
as wanting to wanting to hear the pitch, but I'm super,
super nervous. I just don't want to. I don't want
(02:33):
to screw it up. There's always a chance that you're
in there with somebody who hates wrestling, and it's like
you're not gonna convince him, and you know it, right,
and then you just kind of like it's got to
be like doing a corporate gig, Jeff, where you're just like,
these jokes aren't gonna hit no matter what I do.
I'm just gonna get through it and go home. Yeah,
I know what I'm dealing with now. You know, you
(02:54):
see that person looking at you like, oh, wrestling.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You go, oh no, oh dude.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's tough and it's happened before. I've tried to help
other people with shows, and the studios just aren't. They
don't respect it enough, you know, they don't. They respect
that it can make money, but they don't respect it
as an art form. And so it's it's it's tough.
And I've beaten the drums so much in so many
(03:18):
of these rooms, Like it's it's the literal blood, sweat,
and tears on an actual canvas. How can you not
see this? And they just don't always see it. But
this last place I went to seemed to see it,
even though they didn't know a lot about wrestling, but
their knowledge of wrestling was respectful. So I'm really hopeful,
really nervous, and really disappointed right now, all at the
(03:39):
same time. And I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's like Ted Turner, like in his book he was
talking about like when he was telling TBS that he
was going to bring wrestling to the network, like they
all looked at him like he was crazy, and he's
TBS like like he it is Turner Broadcasting, and they
still were all looking at him like he's an idiot
for wanting wrestling on the on the on the network,
(04:04):
and they were like, you're gonna lose credibility. And there's
a whole chapter like dedicated to like him being convinced
that wrestling is something people will watch and like and
it's cool and yeah, man, it's gotta be. He's very hard.
It's an uphill battle trying to convince these people it is.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's easier when you're a billionaire to fight that fight
like Ted Turner. But I'm doing my damnedest, sir, I'm
doing my damnedest. All right, I'm gonna forget about all
this somehow, and let's talk ae W Dynasty first and foremost.
I want to talk about the Will Ospray and Brian
(04:41):
Danielson match, all right. First things first, he did the
move that he did does on Instagram. I don't know
if you've seen the Instagram algorithm where will Osprey flips
off the top turn buckle when someone's trying to flip
him and lands on his feet and they make his
hair turn into like the anime hair and like he's
glowing gold. It's like the coolest edit anyone's ever done.
I had only seen it in that context. I had
(05:02):
never seen the match that he did that in, so
to see him do that flip, land it and walk
off so cool and so smooth, to where I literally
saw the aura glowing off him and the super Saiyan
hair and the music that d from Dragon ball Z
that I saw it when it happened live. I dorked
(05:23):
out so hard for this match. I was also cooking
dinner for my family, made a little panchetta diced pancetta
in a pan. Then I chopped up some redicio and
some en dive, which are just like some bitter greens,
and I threw those in there and just let the
heat from the panchetta kind of steam them. And then
I threw all that shit onto some pennapasta and it
(05:44):
was like an awesome sauceless sauce, if that makes any sense. Anyway,
while I'm doing that, Will Osprey is putting on the
sickest match, not that I've ever seen, okay, but that
I can remember seeing in a really, really long time.
(06:15):
Brian Danielson is the friggin man. He sells so hard.
Both these guys sold really hard, but will Osprey has
the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand.
And I don't even want to talk about what's next
for him just yet, because I thought this match was
so special and you could tell it men a lot
to both men because it it looked flawless to me.
(06:37):
I haven't like watched it twice or or analyzed it,
but it looked like a flawless match. Did you? Was
this your match of the night?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Easily? And but also I want to let the our
listeners since you're here it unsanctioned, you know, try to
give you a little peek behind the curtain. You know,
all Week are a great producer that I very often
reference that's off camera. Alex and Freddie are in We're
all in a text thread. And you know, I watch wrest.
I cram watch wrestling. You know, I'll watch it like
(07:05):
on a Sunday night, the whole week or whatever, like
if I can, I'll watch Friday and then I'll watch,
you know, like the last stuff, sometimes even right before
this podcast. But I love wrestling just as much, but
my calendar is stupid and annoying, so sometimes I'll have
to ignore all their texts. I'm like, all right, I don't
want to know this stuff. Or sometimes I'll use it
to cheat, like oh what will I want to watch?
Because they're they're they're very into it, they're very on
(07:28):
the on the pulse. But you, my friend, have become
quite the will Osprey fan, like and I've watched it
happen in the last few weeks. Like you you're very
very If you ran a federation, will Osprey would be
your champ. Right now.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'm man crushed on him so hard. I think he's amazing.
I told you, I think he's Tom Hardy, but in
a wrestler's boxy.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's so awesome. I think he was taller, he'd be
the greatest wrestler of all. Like I think about him
and MJF, like if they were just like six seven
or something, they would be like the biggest stars in
wrestling maybe ever.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Jeff, imagine when those two go on the mic against
one another. It's gonna be amazing, you know what. I'm
just like yo. If I know they give their guys
breaks to heal up, which is awesome, But if Max
doesn't come back soon, I can't wait. I cannot wait
for I don't know who you even how you even
book it, because when when MJF comes back, there's he's
(08:27):
gonna want the world championship. That's Swerve Strickland. Congrats to
Swerve Strickland on a great match with Samoa Joe and
becoming the first African American AEW world champion. She said
he wanted to do on this show. If you haven't
heard that episode, go back and listen to it. The
guy is awesome and we love Swerve, but I don't
know who MJF goes after is it Ausprey? Is it?
(08:47):
Is it Swerve? Is it Adam Copeland? Does he become
the next T and T chand like there's three legit
dudes that he could go after that I would be
way interested in the story. Or does he deal with
Adam Cole first? Because it looks like Adam Cole is
healthy and it's going to be back wrestling again.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know what they're gonna do, but I gotta say,
MJF get back to work. We miss you, buddy. And
also they've never needed you more over there, it is
weird that you can't just have There's been very rare
overlap where WWE n a W are just on fire.
There's times where it's felt like, oh, WWE is really
losing to ae W, and then out of nowhere, a
(09:26):
WWE shoots up and starts doing better stuff and it
seems like AEW's lagging, and then out of nowhere, Vince McMahon,
you know, gets caught doing a bunch of naughty things
and now ae w' is back and then see them punkly,
you know, and and the the footage that they're they're
doing desperate things over at ae W almost like they're
kind of panicking a little because WWE is back in
(09:48):
the forefront with Vince being gone, but it always seems
like it's a ping pong back and forth of who's
up and who's down. So get back, get back to work. MJF.
We need you bad over there. And as a guy
that watches both of these wrestling things, you know we
need you.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
The good news is Tony's willing to invest in this business,
and it's a young, young business and you have to
give your company time to fail before it succeeds if
you can't afford it. And he's one of the few
people on earth that actually has that luxury where he
can fail and learn from mistakes and get on the
job training, which he has to get and he has
(10:28):
been for the last five years, six years now, but
it's less than ten years, so until he reaches double digits.
It's a young, young show with the stars they have,
I mean the four, the three that we named just Swerve,
Will and MJF. Like just those three alone, I mean,
imagine imagine the stories and the matches that they can
(10:49):
that they can pull off together. So they have the talent.
Now it's up to them to tell some long term
stories and make people not just go wow, that's a
great match or a five star match or whatever people say,
but a reason to care about the match itself. Like,
give give those men a reason to fight, and they'll
(11:09):
be the ones on the on the on the high
road while WW starts to go down, or hopefully both
can be great at the same time. But yeah, man,
I freakin I love wrestling. The Rock kind of stole
it from every podcast out there that saying wrestling's cool
again by saying wrestling's cool again. But that was a
move that The Rock would make, so we can't get
too mad at the Rock. But Jeff anything, any final thoughts,
(11:32):
any final words on Unsanctioned? Do you want to tell
the people where you're going to be this weekend? Do
you want to just say f you to the people?
I don't know what you want to.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Do, Ah, I just want to say I love wrestling,
and I love that you guys are with us each week.
It's been very exciting and very fun to hear the comments,
read the tweets. We love you guys, Keep watching wrestling,
keep listening to us, and and we'll keep We'll keep
doing this.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And WWE we trust your storytelling. Aw come on, man,
give it to me. Give me that freaking give swerve
a freaking story and make it great. I'm Freddy Prince Junior.
That's jeff I. This was on Sanctioned Thursdays Poops. This
has been a production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. For
(12:16):
more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
But this last place I went to seemed to see it,
even though they didn't know a lot about wrestling, but
their knowledge of wrestling was respectful. So I'm really hopeful,
really nervous, and really disappointed right now, all at the
same time. And I don't know what to say. Ladies
(00:23):
and gentlemen, are you ready shuts about to hit the fan?
Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays in Wrestling with Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Everyone, It's Thursday or whatever day you're listening to us.
It is unsanctioned Thursdays. The name of the show doesn't change,
and the host stone either with me as Jeff Di
I'm Freddie Prince Junior. Or let's start the show, all right, Jeff,
I've promised an update, a weekly update on my wrestling promotion,
and here we go. I'm actually going to read a
(00:58):
text from and I might have all right, all right, okay,
so I have good news and bad news.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So the first place I went to, although I already
thought they were going to pass because it had been
a while, the first place I went to passed, and
I don't want to like bury them and put their
name out there. So that's super disappointed. I'm legit just
read that, you guys and reacting to this right now,
so bear with me. So that's super disappointing and frustrating.
(01:27):
Although I will say, in hindsight, and I may have
even said this last week, they didn't ask a lot
of the questions that you would get from someone who
was excited about wrestling. They were much more basic and
respectful questions. So maybe they were just being polite in
taking the meeting. I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it
because I'm disappointed. The second place I went to, they
(01:48):
asked a ton of questions, very very specific questions. The
text said, without saying too much, that they are leaning
towards saying yes. So that's very much good news. I
have another meeting after we record this, just a couple
hours after we record this, actually, which is the third
of six. I haven't booked the final two, so right
(02:11):
now it's the third of four, but we potentially have
six places that we're going with it, and I'm really
I haven't been nervous about the other two places, but
I'm really nervous about this place. It's a bigger studio,
so it's a harder sell. The smaller places have been
the ones that have given me more love. As far
as wanting to wanting to hear the pitch, but I'm super,
super nervous. I just don't want to. I don't want
(02:33):
to screw it up. There's always a chance that you're
in there with somebody who hates wrestling, and it's like
you're not gonna convince him, and you know it, right,
and then you just kind of like it's got to
be like doing a corporate gig, Jeff, where you're just like,
these jokes aren't gonna hit no matter what I do.
I'm just gonna get through it and go home. Yeah,
I know what I'm dealing with now. You know, you
(02:54):
see that person looking at you like, oh, wrestling.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You go, oh no, oh dude.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's tough and it's happened before. I've tried to help
other people with shows, and the studios just aren't. They
don't respect it enough, you know, they don't. They respect
that it can make money, but they don't respect it
as an art form. And so it's it's it's tough.
And I've beaten the drums so much in so many
(03:18):
of these rooms, Like it's it's the literal blood, sweat,
and tears on an actual canvas. How can you not
see this? And they just don't always see it. But
this last place I went to seemed to see it,
even though they didn't know a lot about wrestling, but
their knowledge of wrestling was respectful. So I'm really hopeful,
really nervous, and really disappointed right now, all at the
(03:39):
same time. And I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's like Ted Turner, like in his book he was
talking about like when he was telling TBS that he
was going to bring wrestling to the network, like they
all looked at him like he was crazy, and he's
TBS like like he it is Turner Broadcasting, and they
still were all looking at him like he's an idiot
for wanting wrestling on the on the on the network,
(04:04):
and they were like, you're gonna lose credibility. And there's
a whole chapter like dedicated to like him being convinced
that wrestling is something people will watch and like and
it's cool and yeah, man, it's gotta be. He's very hard.
It's an uphill battle trying to convince these people it is.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's easier when you're a billionaire to fight that fight
like Ted Turner. But I'm doing my damnedest, sir, I'm
doing my damnedest. All right, I'm gonna forget about all
this somehow, and let's talk ae W Dynasty first and foremost.
I want to talk about the Will Ospray and Brian
(04:41):
Danielson match, all right. First things first, he did the
move that he did does on Instagram. I don't know
if you've seen the Instagram algorithm where will Osprey flips
off the top turn buckle when someone's trying to flip
him and lands on his feet and they make his
hair turn into like the anime hair and like he's
glowing gold. It's like the coolest edit anyone's ever done.
I had only seen it in that context. I had
(05:02):
never seen the match that he did that in, so
to see him do that flip, land it and walk
off so cool and so smooth, to where I literally
saw the aura glowing off him and the super Saiyan
hair and the music that d from Dragon ball Z
that I saw it when it happened live. I dorked
(05:23):
out so hard for this match. I was also cooking
dinner for my family, made a little panchetta diced pancetta
in a pan. Then I chopped up some redicio and
some en dive, which are just like some bitter greens,
and I threw those in there and just let the
heat from the panchetta kind of steam them. And then
I threw all that shit onto some pennapasta and it
(05:44):
was like an awesome sauceless sauce, if that makes any sense. Anyway,
while I'm doing that, Will Osprey is putting on the
sickest match, not that I've ever seen, okay, but that
I can remember seeing in a really, really long time.
(06:15):
Brian Danielson is the friggin man. He sells so hard.
Both these guys sold really hard, but will Osprey has
the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand.
And I don't even want to talk about what's next
for him just yet, because I thought this match was
so special and you could tell it men a lot
to both men because it it looked flawless to me.
(06:37):
I haven't like watched it twice or or analyzed it,
but it looked like a flawless match. Did you? Was
this your match of the night?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Easily? And but also I want to let the our
listeners since you're here it unsanctioned, you know, try to
give you a little peek behind the curtain. You know,
all Week are a great producer that I very often
reference that's off camera. Alex and Freddie are in We're
all in a text thread. And you know, I watch wrest.
I cram watch wrestling. You know, I'll watch it like
(07:05):
on a Sunday night, the whole week or whatever, like
if I can, I'll watch Friday and then I'll watch,
you know, like the last stuff, sometimes even right before
this podcast. But I love wrestling just as much, but
my calendar is stupid and annoying, so sometimes I'll have
to ignore all their texts. I'm like, all right, I don't
want to know this stuff. Or sometimes I'll use it
to cheat, like oh what will I want to watch?
Because they're they're they're very into it, they're very on
(07:28):
the on the pulse. But you, my friend, have become
quite the will Osprey fan, like and I've watched it
happen in the last few weeks. Like you you're very
very If you ran a federation, will Osprey would be
your champ. Right now.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I'm man crushed on him so hard. I think he's amazing.
I told you, I think he's Tom Hardy, but in
a wrestler's boxy.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's so awesome. I think he was taller, he'd be
the greatest wrestler of all. Like I think about him
and MJF, like if they were just like six seven
or something, they would be like the biggest stars in
wrestling maybe ever.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Jeff, imagine when those two go on the mic against
one another. It's gonna be amazing, you know what. I'm
just like yo. If I know they give their guys
breaks to heal up, which is awesome, But if Max
doesn't come back soon, I can't wait. I cannot wait
for I don't know who you even how you even
book it, because when when MJF comes back, there's he's
(08:27):
gonna want the world championship. That's Swerve Strickland. Congrats to
Swerve Strickland on a great match with Samoa Joe and
becoming the first African American AEW world champion. She said
he wanted to do on this show. If you haven't
heard that episode, go back and listen to it. The
guy is awesome and we love Swerve, but I don't
know who MJF goes after is it Ausprey? Is it?
(08:47):
Is it Swerve? Is it Adam Copeland? Does he become
the next T and T chand like there's three legit
dudes that he could go after that I would be
way interested in the story. Or does he deal with
Adam Cole first? Because it looks like Adam Cole is
healthy and it's going to be back wrestling again.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know what they're gonna do, but I gotta say,
MJF get back to work. We miss you, buddy. And
also they've never needed you more over there, it is
weird that you can't just have There's been very rare
overlap where WWE n a W are just on fire.
There's times where it's felt like, oh, WWE is really
losing to ae W, and then out of nowhere, a
(09:26):
WWE shoots up and starts doing better stuff and it
seems like AEW's lagging, and then out of nowhere, Vince McMahon,
you know, gets caught doing a bunch of naughty things
and now ae w' is back and then see them punkly,
you know, and and the the footage that they're they're
doing desperate things over at ae W almost like they're
kind of panicking a little because WWE is back in
(09:48):
the forefront with Vince being gone, but it always seems
like it's a ping pong back and forth of who's
up and who's down. So get back, get back to work. MJF.
We need you bad over there. And as a guy
that watches both of these wrestling things, you know we
need you.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
The good news is Tony's willing to invest in this business,
and it's a young, young business and you have to
give your company time to fail before it succeeds if
you can't afford it. And he's one of the few
people on earth that actually has that luxury where he
can fail and learn from mistakes and get on the
job training, which he has to get and he has
(10:28):
been for the last five years, six years now, but
it's less than ten years, so until he reaches double digits.
It's a young, young show with the stars they have,
I mean the four, the three that we named just Swerve,
Will and MJF. Like just those three alone, I mean,
imagine imagine the stories and the matches that they can
(10:49):
that they can pull off together. So they have the talent.
Now it's up to them to tell some long term
stories and make people not just go wow, that's a
great match or a five star match or whatever people say,
but a reason to care about the match itself. Like,
give give those men a reason to fight, and they'll
(11:09):
be the ones on the on the on the high
road while WW starts to go down, or hopefully both
can be great at the same time. But yeah, man,
I freakin I love wrestling. The Rock kind of stole
it from every podcast out there that saying wrestling's cool
again by saying wrestling's cool again. But that was a
move that The Rock would make, so we can't get
too mad at the Rock. But Jeff anything, any final thoughts,
(11:32):
any final words on Unsanctioned? Do you want to tell
the people where you're going to be this weekend? Do
you want to just say f you to the people?
I don't know what you want to.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Do, Ah, I just want to say I love wrestling,
and I love that you guys are with us each week.
It's been very exciting and very fun to hear the comments,
read the tweets. We love you guys, Keep watching wrestling,
keep listening to us, and and we'll keep We'll keep
doing this.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And WWE we trust your storytelling. Aw come on, man,
give it to me. Give me that freaking give swerve
a freaking story and make it great. I'm Freddy Prince Junior.
That's jeff I. This was on Sanctioned Thursdays Poops. This
has been a production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. For
(12:16):
more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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