Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interviews Patrice Washington. Patrice is a Transformational Speaker, Host, and founder of Redefining Wealth. Named by SUCCESS Magazine as one of the Top 25 Influential Leaders in Personal Development. Consistently called on by top national media outlets such as Good Morning America, CNBC, Cosmopolitan, Women's Health, NBC, Essence Magazine, and more, Patrice is where personal development, spiritual growth, and personal finance success converge to create a roadmap for your ultimate success.
As the founder of Redefining Wealth, Patrice has built a thriving international community of purpose-driven individuals committed to creating a powerful life, weaving together the aspects of their careers, home, health, and personal finances. Through wise teachings and intuitive guidance, Patrice creates a safe environment for Purpose Chasers to dig deeper in exploring and understanding the obstacles prohibiting them from progressing. She empowers her international community to look at life through a lens of abundance and opportunity instead of lack and scarcity.
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Speaker 1 (01:37):
Be an Excuse. That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
People get in their fifties, they getting their sixties, and
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don't think they can have a relationship, don't think they
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what does the plan mean? Plan P for prepare, al
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for prepare Al for learn, A for adjust, In for
Navigate twenty twenty four, I will start my Don't let
Age be an Excuse series. There are people who are
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fifty and sixty years old who are thrown into towel.
Don't let that be you in twenty twenty four. Let's
take that towle and throw it back at somebody who's
telling you to stop dreaming. You need to stop listening
to these wrong people. My guests know about setting goals.
My next guests, she's on the call. She knows about
setting the goals. I've known her for over two decades.
If you are a preacher in church, everybody needs a
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good deacon. Everybody needs a good deacon. Well, my guess
is my deacon for this. She is not a deacon really,
but she preaches the gospel of success. Cceess for Treass,
a transformational speaker, host and founder of Redefining Wealth, named
by Success Magazine, is one of the top twenty five
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influential influential leaders in personal development, consistently called on by
top national media outletas Just Good Morning America, CNBC, Cosmopolitan,
Women's Health, NBC, Essence Magazine, and more. Patucers where personal development,
spiritual growth, and personal finance success converged and create a
roadmap for your ultimate success. Please welcome to the Money
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Making Conversations master Class, Patrise, Washington.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How you doing, Patrese?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Hey, I'm well. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh with great First of all, it was First of all,
thank you for taking the time to come on the show.
It's the month of the month, it's the end of
the year, the fourth quarter, and a lot of people
don't understand that. Really in the fourth quarter when you
start preparing for the first quarter the next year.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Oh? Yeah, If you wait until January first to start
thinking about what you want your twenty twenty four to
look like, you're already behind and ready behind.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And that's really is it. I'm just asking you basic
questions here. You know, I interviewed by twenty minutes here,
so I kind of can slow it down and just
you know, we're not in a five minutes set register go.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Mood mode here.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
You know, when you're talking about success, and I've watched
a lot of your videos. I'm a fan of yours.
I've seen your TV many times. Washington, What is success?
Can you put it in a lane or because does
it mean so many things to so many different people.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think that success is ultimately an individual journey, because
what success looks like to me now in my forties
is not what success looks like to me in my
twenties when I initially met you. Right, So, every year,
as my life has evolved, as you are exposed to
new things, as you are exposed to new concepts, new people,
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new perspectives, new perceptions, your definition of success may evolve.
And that's okay, And that's why I love what you
said about you're never too old to dream. You're never
too old to dream a new dream and to set
some new goals. But the main thing is you're you're
going to never hit the things that you don't prepare for,
right if you don't prepare for it, if you don't
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plan for it, and if you don't have a clear
vision for what you desire out of your life in
these next twelve months, you're going to get to December
thirty first, twenty twenty four and say, what the heck
just happened? Just like there's people listening right now who
are like, my god, where did the year go? Nowhere
it went because you didn't define where you wanted it
to go and at least start with an initial blueprint
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at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
When you say blueprint, Patrice, what does that look like?
What is you know?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Men, women with old people in the sixties, who oh,
you know. I'm in my sixties. So I know that
there are people out there always those places that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Go I do.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't walk like that, I know, I don't talk
like that. I know I don't look like that because
I'm not under the idea that my life is in it.
There are people walking around here and look like their
life by the way they walk, the way they talk,
you know, and because they have not prepared for.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Success.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And that's why I brought you on the show to
talk about because it is you and I have been
on the journey. I've seen you you know before, you know,
just turning twenty, you know, and I see you now
and I've charged your growthroughs in years as you go.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Can you talk to us.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
About twenty period for you, thirty period for you and
now the forties talk about those three different lanes and
take your time.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
As you talk.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I would like to say, you know, I think
for many of us in our twenties, we don't really
have a clear understanding of what the blueprint is. And
let me take a step back and say what the
blueprint is When we think about a building. For example,
there's so much building going on right now in Atlanta,
you know where we are. There's a new building, a
new construction, a new something every day that's going up.
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Without a blueprint, no one knows what to do without
that finance, that that foundational idea of well, how many
rooms is it, how many floors is it? How many
doors will we need to purchase, how many windows do
we need? What does the heating and cooling look like?
When we think about our own lives. If we dream
a new dreams and we have a vision for our lives,
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right Rashan, we still have to take a step back
and say what are the different elements and pieces that
are required in order to make this come to life.
So when you think about what the vision is for
twenty twenty four, the blueprint is essentially the roadmap for
how I'm going to get there, because that roadmap is
what's going to determine what are my monthly goals or
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what are my quarterly goals, what are my daily objectives.
What should be on my calendar. Everything on my calendar
should be taking me one step closer every day to
getting to know that finish line of whatever this vision is.
So for me in my twenties, my blueprint was what
did my mama say?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Or what your friends say, or what your like, your parents,
your teachers. That's I always tell people. You know, you've
driven by what other people think you should be.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, I think early in my life success looked like
to me earning external validation. As long as my mentors,
people like you were clapping, I was like, well, for
Shan said that's good. That's what I'm going to do.
For Shan seems to be pleased, right, or any of
these people who I considered mentors or like my parents, grandparents,
you know, pastors. So for many of us, we have
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maybe passed success in things, but we can't always say
that it was authentic to who we really were. It
just was this is what people said we should do,
so we did it. And so for me, that's what
success looked like and the goals that I set. While
I'm proud of the things I've accomplished, I can't always
say that I went after them for the right reason,
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right right. And then I would say in my thirties,
as I you know, came a mom and some of
the things that matter to me started to shift, and
I started to learn myself more and build my own voice.
Then it started to become a bit more you know,
about what I really wanted, Like, hum, I can see
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myself doing these things? What is my purpose? What do
I see my life vision really being? Who are the
people that I want to serve? What are the experiences
I would like to have? So then success stopped looking
so much like what what do my mentors applaud me for?
And it became like what do I want to clap
for myself for? Right? Like my annual goal is going
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to have more fun. It's going to have more joy.
It's going to be about more things that make me
personally fulfilled, not just financially fulfilled. Because you know, my
background is financial psychology, and so a lot of people
now will make all these big money goals and financial
goals and work goals, and then they leave out making
sure that they're clear about what they want to create
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and the other parts of their life. And then when
those things fall by the wayside, you're gonna waste the
money anyway, trying to pick up the pieces, You're not
really even gonna enjoy the things that you achieved. So
for me in my thirties, it became being clear that
my goals couldn't just be about working money. I needed
to have some personal goals about what I wanted my
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relationships to look like. What does my faith look like
at this season? What does my mental and physical well
being look like? As I pursue those things? And now
in my forties, now in my forties, what I really
lean towards is just making sure that everything is integrated,
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that as I look at my life, I just make
sure that I have an awareness of what I call
the six pillars of wealth, so that as I'm setting goals,
I'm not like burning myself out trying to chase money
or trying to chase things. It really is about successless
like for me in this season of my life, making
sure that I'm living a purposeful, meaningful life. To me,
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I'm not looking for external information to validate that I'm
leaning on my internal intuition. Does this feel good to Patrese?
For me, that's what success looks like now.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Co congratulations on that because it was well spoken. I'm
speaking with Patrice Washington, Success Magazine named as one of
the top twenty five influential leaders and personal development. You know,
you can know from somebody this for a long time.
But as social media allows you to stay connected, and
how the website social media give us the contact information.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It's that Patrice Washington dot com slash results.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
That's it when you go there to be able to
find everything, because when you come back, I want to
talk about the pillars of success that I you know,
it's almost like a mantra. I's heard it so many years,
seen the little Steve Harveys talk show that you sitting
down and the infamous naety day Framework've Harvey made it
famous using that with his relationship book, and we all
know jobs. I just did a big old series about
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ninety day probation neary period.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We're going to talk about her dainty days.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But more importantly, Patrice, your goal that coming on this
show today is to accomplish what.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Hello, this is Rashawn McDonald, host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
Please remember that as you celebrate the holidays with your friends,
family and coworkers, that you don't forget to count your blessings.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Happy Holidays, and keep winning.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations masterclass hosted by
Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I really want to help more people get results. I
think that the last few years we've just been tossed
to and fro and it's simply because we don't have
a framework and a blueprint, and I want to break
it down step by step.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Giving advice and then watching people not follow that advice.
Does that frustrate you?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It can be frustrating. But something that I have leaned
into is that my job is to plant the seeds
and give people games. They pick it up, they pick
it up, that's on them. But I'm always going to
share freely. That's just who I am.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You know, because of the fact that we go through life.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, Patresa, it's really fun talking to you from
a standpoint because of the fact that you're younger than me,
but we also have had a journey together in a
period and so we you know, being that I'm older,
I know exactly how what you think. When you said
in your twenties, I always tell people you between the
ages of eighteen and twenty four and that little window
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right there, you're kind of like fearless, you know, But
then all of a sudden, people start shaping you while
you're doing that, you should be doing this, and then
you let those people, like you were saying, those people
start diving into your mindset, then they can offer you
all to your true dreams. And I say this to you, now,
between you the age of eighteen and twenty four, are
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you doing now what you wanted to do between the
ages of your age of eight that period between eighteen
and twenty four.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
The only thing I would say that it's similar is
that I always knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur,
like one thing that I was always clear on. And
this is really just because I had a hard working,
you know, Beliegian mom. You know, I'm from Generation American,
and my mom worked so far away from home that
she couldn't attend any of my school stuff. And I
used to just say to myself, even in elementary school
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and middle school, when I grow up, I just want
to be an entrepreneur so I can control more of
my time. I want to be a present mother and
so the only thing that's spot on it is that
I was really clear pretty much my whole life that
I wanted to really be an entrepreneur and create my
own lane. And so that's still the same, but the
way that I'm doing it is not the same, not
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at all.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You know, It's really interesting because you know, I'm a
type of person where it looks like I do work hard.
I work hard, and I and some people that I
don't sleep enough, but I enjoy my life. Patrice, and
I remember Cicily was asking you. Cicely is my wife.
She was asking me. She said, we was going to
the airport. And I've said this on the radio before.
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She said, when do you get tired? When are you tired?
And I looked at her. I'm tired now, I said,
I'm tired right now. You know so, And I say
that because of the fact that when you're pursuing your dreams,
are you living your life, whether you're an athlete or
a person, they're They're doctors who are doing surgery who
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are tired. They are people who are but knowing. But
I do know I need to sleep. I do know
there's a moment that when I do stop. But I
know why I am in the moment, Patrice. I can
be tired, I can be, but what I'm not going
to be is frustrated. What I'm not going to do
is give up. What I'm not going to be is
let somebody tell me I cannot achieve something if I've
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set goals and proper planning in place. And when I
listen to you, and I do listen to you, you
talk about you know how to avoid burnout and pursue
your goals with intentions and abundant mindset.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What exactly does that mean?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Because I may be too extreme and I may be
the extreme person because I can get away with three
four hours of sleep at night and people look at me,
go really, brother, really and no call I'm a no
coffee guy and I still do it like that. And
so being that I am an extreme and I may
be that a plus plus type person, what is the
person that your policies, that your practice of who you
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are trying to reach and mold to be successful.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So one of the things that I believe too is
because I'm gonna be honest with you, I be tired
to Rashan, you know, we are doing one of the
things that really light us up. But I believe that
when people are not doing what is authentically aligned with
who they are designed to be in the world, really
their soul is exhausted. And I think sol exhaustion is
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way worse than physical like being physically tired, when you
are running away from the things that you're supposed to
do because you refuse to set up a plan, because
you refuse to prioritize, because you refuse a set boundaries
until other people know. That's why you exhausted. Like, that's different.
That's not the same as just oh I need a nap.
I just want to be clear. But in the people
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that I you know, coach and what I do. One
of the things we're going to talk about at results
not resolution is the three step system that I use
to set goals. And I started to develop this two
decades ago. And the way that I avoid burnout is
because I don't treat all goals equally. So when I
say that I have a vision, I've learned to break
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it down into three types of action steps. The first
type of action step I call her safe goals. What
are the safe goals? What are the easy things that
I can do to get to the vision I say
I have, right, So let's say, rishond, what's a twenty
twenty four goal that you have.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Twenty four doing goals is I can easily say make
more money, but I think the plan better. I want
to plan better, and my short term goals make them reachable.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Perfect? So if the vision is for twenty twenty four
to plan better, and let's say there's some specific events,
that responds right. Okay? So the safe goals four that
are order a new planner, use a different calendaring system,
like or research different calendaring systems, use a different planner.
What are just the things that you could do that
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are easy to do, you just won't sit down and
do it. Those are safe goals. Now. The thing is,
we don't want to have a million safe goals because
if you just do the easy stuff, you never really
accomplish anything big. So we want to get some of
those things out the way so we can stop making
those an excuse.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The next level would be support goals. Okay, who do
you need on your team or in your life to
support you with planning better? Maybe you need a new
executive assistant, or maybe you need a different ADM in
person on your team. Maybe you need a coach of
some kind. Maybe you need like who can support you
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in getting there, who already knows what to do and
they can help you do it sooner, quicker, faster. So
now the thing is, we don't want to have a
million support goals because people use well I called so
and so and they didn't call me back, So that
means you just dropped the whole. Yes, yes, you can't
use people as escape go but you do need support.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
If people use that all that, well, you know what,
she didn't call me back, I said, I just threw
my hands up, went whatever, you know, and then they
come around and complain the whatever excuse for not achieving
your goal is real popular. And because you you was
funny when you were saying, if you're telling us the
truth at the same time you said Rishan January, people
set resolutions February, they forget them and forget And that's
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why I was just saying about myself. I want to
set goals. I want to plan goals that are reachable,
because usually people set goals that are not reachable.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You know, in other words, if you say you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Lose five pounds versus thirty pounds, you probably you're probably
gonna get to that five pounds, which will incentivize you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
To go to another five pounds. Right.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
And so if you say in January, my dudes, is
a resolution, I'm gonna lose thirty pounds. Okay, come February
you might have just lost five pounds. All you know is, wow,
I never get you that thirty. So what I'm saying,
and I'm telling the listeners, and is that set a
reasonable goal. Five pounds is a lot of weight. It's
a lot of weight to lose and keep it off.
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And so if you set more reasonable goals and she
said safe, that's a safe goal. I know because I
should teach aerobics when I was in college, so I
know what people will do. My classes will pack the
first two weeks. The last two weeks it was empty.
Because people do that, They set a goal at the
top of them up and then they'll disappear and they'll disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And that's all you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You're saying, Rashan, and anybody who's listening, set safe goals
and reasonable expectations.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, And I mean so that's a great example. Though,
So if it's about losing by right. It might be
to the safe goal is to go toward three different
types of gyms in your neighborhood to see which one
is more aligned with like what feels good for you.
Everybody don't want to be in the gym with a
bunch of muscle men. I just want to go to
a little pilates class. But like, go toward take a
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free class, do the console, see what works for you.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
The other thing could be I'm gonna get some que
workout clothes so I feel inspired. The thing is a
safe goal is I'm going to put my workout clothes
on the edge of my bed and I wake up
in the morning, I just roll into that workout clothes.
Like you have to set it up in a way
that supports you well. Can't have these expectations of yourself
to do a lot of things you haven't done all
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at once.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And I'm gonna take you to the next level on
this workout. Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
See, I'm not a person. I don't run. You know,
I got the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I walk on my trip on a treadmill.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Though you are you been walking on that treadmill the
whole time. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm walking. You know I'm walking. You know I'm walking.
I'm walking, y'all.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
If the if I ball bear weights, I'm doing twenty pounds. Okay,
I'm curling twenty pounds. See, what you're not going to
do to me is create additional work in my life.
And so knowing that I'm not going down there trying
to pick up forty and fifty curl forty and fifty pounds,
I'm probably gonna go down there. And guess what all
you're trying to do as you get older is keep
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your muscles stretched. Keep them stretched so when you walk,
and then take that knee and bend it to your chest.
So it's amazing people don't understand this, and I want to.
I went to the hospital and that because my knee
was bothering me. So I thought I thought I had
to have surgery. You gotta go. No, we're gonna send
you to therapy, physical therapy. And when I went to
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the physical therapy, the guy was telling me just bend
my knee towards my chest. I said, hold up, hold up,
my knee is hurting. He said, you're hurting. You're hurting
because you're not stretching your muscles. And because I started
bending my knee, the pain went away.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The pain went away.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
It was me. And that's that's a beautiful example, though,
of a support goal. When you when you went to
the doctor, you went to go get the support you
needed to get the problem fixed. You didn't sit up
there on web and be trying to diagnose yourself. Right,
because I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Telling something, Patrie, I would have never thought bending my
knee to stop pain.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I stretched my need to stop paying.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I just knew this guy, go, well, we're gonna have
to do some a c L you know, go in
there and scope it out. Gotta go No, he said,
the problem with most people just like you, You over exercise,
but you don't stretch. Stretching is the key to success.
And when I when I talk about success and that,
when I saw you on social media, I just knew
I had to bring you back into my life on
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this show just to talk.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
About your program, just talk about you.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And if you don't mind, missus Washington love to have
you on this show at least once a quarter.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I would love to come back. Are you kidding? It
would be my honor.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
We'll tell everybody what you're trying to do next week
so we can get lined up and the work because
they caught my eye. And if anybody's listening, this is
betweset Washington. She's a success coach and she's there to
change your life. She's not trying to force you to
change your life, but put plans in place. So tell
them about their event so we can wrap this up.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
So I would love to invite you out. If you
are tired of just thinking and wishing that something will
change for you in this next year, I would love
to invite you to results, not resolutions. It's my two
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at like tangible steps that you can use to create
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blueprint for how you can get there. And it will
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action plan for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Wow, that's a ruse question.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We're gonna bring up back in the first quarter to
tell us how this went, and we're gonna talk about
it early part. See, I know you catch me early
to get them right at the end. Okay, so this
is the end. We at the end, at four quarters
the end. We go catch them in the first quarter
for Trees, and with the second quarter and third quarter
and hopefully we have a group that wants to finish
strong instead of some stragglers.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Okay, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
For coming on Money making Conversations with Trees and you'd
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Okay, happy holidays to you. Thank you so much, appreciate it.
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Speaker 1 (01:37):
Be an Excuse. That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
People get in their fifties, they getting their sixties, and
they just basically shut it down. Don't think they can
start a business, don't think they can go back to school,
don't think they can have a relationship, don't think they
can do anything because they've allowed age to win, because
they've fallen victim to stereotypes. People tell you too old
while you're working, while you're dreaming. Age should never be
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an excuse. If you set goals, If you have a plan, plan,
what does the plan mean? Plan P for prepare, al
for learn, A for adjust, in for navigate again P
for prepare Al for learn, A for adjust, In for
Navigate twenty twenty four, I will start my Don't let
Age be an Excuse series. There are people who are
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fifty and sixty years old who are thrown into towel.
Don't let that be you in twenty twenty four. Let's
take that towle and throw it back at somebody who's
telling you to stop dreaming. You need to stop listening
to these wrong people. My guests know about setting goals.
My next guests, she's on the call. She knows about
setting the goals. I've known her for over two decades.
If you are a preacher in church, everybody needs a
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good deacon. Everybody needs a good deacon. Well, my guess
is my deacon for this. She is not a deacon really,
but she preaches the gospel of success. Cceess for Treass,
a transformational speaker, host and founder of Redefining Wealth, named
by Success Magazine, is one of the top twenty five
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influential influential leaders in personal development, consistently called on by
top national media outletas Just Good Morning America, CNBC, Cosmopolitan,
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roadmap for your ultimate success. Please welcome to the Money
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Making Conversations master Class, Patrise, Washington.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How you doing, Patrese?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Hey, I'm well. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh with great First of all, it was First of all,
thank you for taking the time to come on the show.
It's the month of the month, it's the end of
the year, the fourth quarter, and a lot of people
don't understand that. Really in the fourth quarter when you
start preparing for the first quarter the next year.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Oh? Yeah, If you wait until January first to start
thinking about what you want your twenty twenty four to
look like, you're already behind and ready behind.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And that's really is it. I'm just asking you basic
questions here. You know, I interviewed by twenty minutes here,
so I kind of can slow it down and just
you know, we're not in a five minutes set register go.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Mood mode here.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
You know, when you're talking about success, and I've watched
a lot of your videos. I'm a fan of yours.
I've seen your TV many times. Washington, What is success?
Can you put it in a lane or because does
it mean so many things to so many different people.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think that success is ultimately an individual journey, because
what success looks like to me now in my forties
is not what success looks like to me in my
twenties when I initially met you. Right, So, every year,
as my life has evolved, as you are exposed to
new things, as you are exposed to new concepts, new people,
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new perspectives, new perceptions, your definition of success may evolve.
And that's okay, And that's why I love what you
said about you're never too old to dream. You're never
too old to dream a new dream and to set
some new goals. But the main thing is you're you're
going to never hit the things that you don't prepare for,
right if you don't prepare for it, if you don't
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plan for it, and if you don't have a clear
vision for what you desire out of your life in
these next twelve months, you're going to get to December
thirty first, twenty twenty four and say, what the heck
just happened? Just like there's people listening right now who
are like, my god, where did the year go? Nowhere
it went because you didn't define where you wanted it
to go and at least start with an initial blueprint
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at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
When you say blueprint, Patrice, what does that look like?
What is you know?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Men, women with old people in the sixties, who oh,
you know. I'm in my sixties. So I know that
there are people out there always those places that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Go I do.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't walk like that, I know, I don't talk
like that. I know I don't look like that because
I'm not under the idea that my life is in it.
There are people walking around here and look like their
life by the way they walk, the way they talk,
you know, and because they have not prepared for.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Success.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And that's why I brought you on the show to
talk about because it is you and I have been
on the journey. I've seen you you know before, you know,
just turning twenty, you know, and I see you now
and I've charged your growthroughs in years as you go.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Can you talk to us.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
About twenty period for you, thirty period for you and
now the forties talk about those three different lanes and
take your time.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
As you talk.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I would like to say, you know, I think
for many of us in our twenties, we don't really
have a clear understanding of what the blueprint is. And
let me take a step back and say what the
blueprint is When we think about a building. For example,
there's so much building going on right now in Atlanta,
you know where we are. There's a new building, a
new construction, a new something every day that's going up.
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Without a blueprint, no one knows what to do without
that finance, that that foundational idea of well, how many
rooms is it, how many floors is it? How many
doors will we need to purchase, how many windows do
we need? What does the heating and cooling look like?
When we think about our own lives. If we dream
a new dreams and we have a vision for our lives,
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right Rashan, we still have to take a step back
and say what are the different elements and pieces that
are required in order to make this come to life.
So when you think about what the vision is for
twenty twenty four, the blueprint is essentially the roadmap for
how I'm going to get there, because that roadmap is
what's going to determine what are my monthly goals or
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what are my quarterly goals, what are my daily objectives.
What should be on my calendar. Everything on my calendar
should be taking me one step closer every day to
getting to know that finish line of whatever this vision is.
So for me in my twenties, my blueprint was what
did my mama say?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Or what your friends say, or what your like, your parents,
your teachers. That's I always tell people. You know, you've
driven by what other people think you should be.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, I think early in my life success looked like
to me earning external validation. As long as my mentors,
people like you were clapping, I was like, well, for
Shan said that's good. That's what I'm going to do.
For Shan seems to be pleased, right, or any of
these people who I considered mentors or like my parents, grandparents,
you know, pastors. So for many of us, we have
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maybe passed success in things, but we can't always say
that it was authentic to who we really were. It
just was this is what people said we should do,
so we did it. And so for me, that's what
success looked like and the goals that I set. While
I'm proud of the things I've accomplished, I can't always
say that I went after them for the right reason,
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right right. And then I would say in my thirties,
as I you know, came a mom and some of
the things that matter to me started to shift, and
I started to learn myself more and build my own voice.
Then it started to become a bit more you know,
about what I really wanted, Like, hum, I can see
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myself doing these things? What is my purpose? What do
I see my life vision really being? Who are the
people that I want to serve? What are the experiences
I would like to have? So then success stopped looking
so much like what what do my mentors applaud me for?
And it became like what do I want to clap
for myself for? Right? Like my annual goal is going
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to have more fun. It's going to have more joy.
It's going to be about more things that make me
personally fulfilled, not just financially fulfilled. Because you know, my
background is financial psychology, and so a lot of people
now will make all these big money goals and financial
goals and work goals, and then they leave out making
sure that they're clear about what they want to create
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and the other parts of their life. And then when
those things fall by the wayside, you're gonna waste the
money anyway, trying to pick up the pieces, You're not
really even gonna enjoy the things that you achieved. So
for me in my thirties, it became being clear that
my goals couldn't just be about working money. I needed
to have some personal goals about what I wanted my
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relationships to look like. What does my faith look like
at this season? What does my mental and physical well
being look like? As I pursue those things? And now
in my forties, now in my forties, what I really
lean towards is just making sure that everything is integrated,
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that as I look at my life, I just make
sure that I have an awareness of what I call
the six pillars of wealth, so that as I'm setting goals,
I'm not like burning myself out trying to chase money
or trying to chase things. It really is about successless
like for me in this season of my life, making
sure that I'm living a purposeful, meaningful life. To me,
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I'm not looking for external information to validate that I'm
leaning on my internal intuition. Does this feel good to Patrese?
For me, that's what success looks like now.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Co congratulations on that because it was well spoken. I'm
speaking with Patrice Washington, Success Magazine named as one of
the top twenty five influential leaders and personal development. You know,
you can know from somebody this for a long time.
But as social media allows you to stay connected, and
how the website social media give us the contact information.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It's that Patrice Washington dot com slash results.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
That's it when you go there to be able to
find everything, because when you come back, I want to
talk about the pillars of success that I you know,
it's almost like a mantra. I's heard it so many years,
seen the little Steve Harveys talk show that you sitting
down and the infamous naety day Framework've Harvey made it
famous using that with his relationship book, and we all
know jobs. I just did a big old series about
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ninety day probation neary period.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We're going to talk about her dainty days.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But more importantly, Patrice, your goal that coming on this
show today is to accomplish what.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Hello, this is Rashawn McDonald, host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
Please remember that as you celebrate the holidays with your friends,
family and coworkers, that you don't forget to count your blessings.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Happy Holidays, and keep winning.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations masterclass hosted by
Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I really want to help more people get results. I
think that the last few years we've just been tossed
to and fro and it's simply because we don't have
a framework and a blueprint, and I want to break
it down step by step.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Giving advice and then watching people not follow that advice.
Does that frustrate you?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It can be frustrating. But something that I have leaned
into is that my job is to plant the seeds
and give people games. They pick it up, they pick
it up, that's on them. But I'm always going to
share freely. That's just who I am.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You know, because of the fact that we go through life.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, Patresa, it's really fun talking to you from
a standpoint because of the fact that you're younger than me,
but we also have had a journey together in a
period and so we you know, being that I'm older,
I know exactly how what you think. When you said
in your twenties, I always tell people you between the
ages of eighteen and twenty four and that little window
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right there, you're kind of like fearless, you know, But
then all of a sudden, people start shaping you while
you're doing that, you should be doing this, and then
you let those people, like you were saying, those people
start diving into your mindset, then they can offer you
all to your true dreams. And I say this to you, now,
between you the age of eighteen and twenty four, are
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you doing now what you wanted to do between the
ages of your age of eight that period between eighteen
and twenty four.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
The only thing I would say that it's similar is
that I always knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur,
like one thing that I was always clear on. And
this is really just because I had a hard working,
you know, Beliegian mom. You know, I'm from Generation American,
and my mom worked so far away from home that
she couldn't attend any of my school stuff. And I
used to just say to myself, even in elementary school
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and middle school, when I grow up, I just want
to be an entrepreneur so I can control more of
my time. I want to be a present mother and
so the only thing that's spot on it is that
I was really clear pretty much my whole life that
I wanted to really be an entrepreneur and create my
own lane. And so that's still the same, but the
way that I'm doing it is not the same, not
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at all.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You know, It's really interesting because you know, I'm a
type of person where it looks like I do work hard.
I work hard, and I and some people that I
don't sleep enough, but I enjoy my life. Patrice, and
I remember Cicily was asking you. Cicely is my wife.
She was asking me. She said, we was going to
the airport. And I've said this on the radio before.
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She said, when do you get tired? When are you tired?
And I looked at her. I'm tired now, I said,
I'm tired right now. You know so, And I say
that because of the fact that when you're pursuing your dreams,
are you living your life, whether you're an athlete or
a person, they're They're doctors who are doing surgery who
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are tired. They are people who are but knowing. But
I do know I need to sleep. I do know
there's a moment that when I do stop. But I
know why I am in the moment, Patrice. I can
be tired, I can be, but what I'm not going
to be is frustrated. What I'm not going to do
is give up. What I'm not going to be is
let somebody tell me I cannot achieve something if I've
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set goals and proper planning in place. And when I
listen to you, and I do listen to you, you
talk about you know how to avoid burnout and pursue
your goals with intentions and abundant mindset.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
What exactly does that mean?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Because I may be too extreme and I may be
the extreme person because I can get away with three
four hours of sleep at night and people look at me,
go really, brother, really and no call I'm a no
coffee guy and I still do it like that. And
so being that I am an extreme and I may
be that a plus plus type person, what is the
person that your policies, that your practice of who you
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are trying to reach and mold to be successful.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So one of the things that I believe too is
because I'm gonna be honest with you, I be tired
to Rashan, you know, we are doing one of the
things that really light us up. But I believe that
when people are not doing what is authentically aligned with
who they are designed to be in the world, really
their soul is exhausted. And I think sol exhaustion is
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way worse than physical like being physically tired, when you
are running away from the things that you're supposed to
do because you refuse to set up a plan, because
you refuse to prioritize, because you refuse a set boundaries
until other people know. That's why you exhausted. Like, that's different.
That's not the same as just oh I need a nap.
I just want to be clear. But in the people
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that I you know, coach and what I do. One
of the things we're going to talk about at results
not resolution is the three step system that I use
to set goals. And I started to develop this two
decades ago. And the way that I avoid burnout is
because I don't treat all goals equally. So when I
say that I have a vision, I've learned to break
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it down into three types of action steps. The first
type of action step I call her safe goals. What
are the safe goals? What are the easy things that
I can do to get to the vision I say
I have, right, So let's say, rishond, what's a twenty
twenty four goal that you have.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Twenty four doing goals is I can easily say make
more money, but I think the plan better. I want
to plan better, and my short term goals make them reachable.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Perfect? So if the vision is for twenty twenty four
to plan better, and let's say there's some specific events,
that responds right. Okay? So the safe goals four that
are order a new planner, use a different calendaring system,
like or research different calendaring systems, use a different planner.
What are just the things that you could do that
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are easy to do, you just won't sit down and
do it. Those are safe goals. Now. The thing is,
we don't want to have a million safe goals because
if you just do the easy stuff, you never really
accomplish anything big. So we want to get some of
those things out the way so we can stop making
those an excuse.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The next level would be support goals. Okay, who do
you need on your team or in your life to
support you with planning better? Maybe you need a new
executive assistant, or maybe you need a different ADM in
person on your team. Maybe you need a coach of
some kind. Maybe you need like who can support you
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in getting there, who already knows what to do and
they can help you do it sooner, quicker, faster. So
now the thing is, we don't want to have a
million support goals because people use well I called so
and so and they didn't call me back, So that
means you just dropped the whole. Yes, yes, you can't
use people as escape go but you do need support.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
If people use that all that, well, you know what,
she didn't call me back, I said, I just threw
my hands up, went whatever, you know, and then they
come around and complain the whatever excuse for not achieving
your goal is real popular. And because you you was
funny when you were saying, if you're telling us the
truth at the same time you said Rishan January, people
set resolutions February, they forget them and forget And that's
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why I was just saying about myself. I want to
set goals. I want to plan goals that are reachable,
because usually people set goals that are not reachable.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You know, in other words, if you say you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Lose five pounds versus thirty pounds, you probably you're probably
gonna get to that five pounds, which will incentivize you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
To go to another five pounds. Right.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
And so if you say in January, my dudes, is
a resolution, I'm gonna lose thirty pounds. Okay, come February
you might have just lost five pounds. All you know is, wow,
I never get you that thirty. So what I'm saying,
and I'm telling the listeners, and is that set a
reasonable goal. Five pounds is a lot of weight. It's
a lot of weight to lose and keep it off.
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And so if you set more reasonable goals and she
said safe, that's a safe goal. I know because I
should teach aerobics when I was in college, so I
know what people will do. My classes will pack the
first two weeks. The last two weeks it was empty.
Because people do that, They set a goal at the
top of them up and then they'll disappear and they'll disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And that's all you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You're saying, Rashan, and anybody who's listening, set safe goals
and reasonable expectations.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, And I mean so that's a great example. Though,
So if it's about losing by right. It might be
to the safe goal is to go toward three different
types of gyms in your neighborhood to see which one
is more aligned with like what feels good for you.
Everybody don't want to be in the gym with a
bunch of muscle men. I just want to go to
a little pilates class. But like, go toward take a
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free class, do the console, see what works for you.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
The other thing could be I'm gonna get some que
workout clothes so I feel inspired. The thing is a
safe goal is I'm going to put my workout clothes
on the edge of my bed and I wake up
in the morning, I just roll into that workout clothes.
Like you have to set it up in a way
that supports you well. Can't have these expectations of yourself
to do a lot of things you haven't done all
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at once.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And I'm gonna take you to the next level on
this workout. Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
See, I'm not a person. I don't run. You know,
I got the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I walk on my trip on a treadmill.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Though you are you been walking on that treadmill the
whole time. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm walking. You know I'm walking. You know I'm walking.
I'm walking, y'all.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
If the if I ball bear weights, I'm doing twenty pounds. Okay,
I'm curling twenty pounds. See, what you're not going to
do to me is create additional work in my life.
And so knowing that I'm not going down there trying
to pick up forty and fifty curl forty and fifty pounds,
I'm probably gonna go down there. And guess what all
you're trying to do as you get older is keep
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your muscles stretched. Keep them stretched so when you walk,
and then take that knee and bend it to your chest.
So it's amazing people don't understand this, and I want to.
I went to the hospital and that because my knee
was bothering me. So I thought I thought I had
to have surgery. You gotta go. No, we're gonna send
you to therapy, physical therapy. And when I went to
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the physical therapy, the guy was telling me just bend
my knee towards my chest. I said, hold up, hold up,
my knee is hurting. He said, you're hurting. You're hurting
because you're not stretching your muscles. And because I started
bending my knee, the pain went away.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The pain went away.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
It was me. And that's that's a beautiful example, though,
of a support goal. When you when you went to
the doctor, you went to go get the support you
needed to get the problem fixed. You didn't sit up
there on web and be trying to diagnose yourself. Right,
because I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Telling something, Patrie, I would have never thought bending my
knee to stop pain.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I stretched my need to stop paying.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I just knew this guy, go, well, we're gonna have
to do some a c L you know, go in
there and scope it out. Gotta go No, he said,
the problem with most people just like you, You over exercise,
but you don't stretch. Stretching is the key to success.
And when I when I talk about success and that,
when I saw you on social media, I just knew
I had to bring you back into my life on
(24:09):
this show just to talk.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
About your program, just talk about you.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And if you don't mind, missus Washington love to have
you on this show at least once a quarter.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I would love to come back. Are you kidding? It
would be my honor.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
We'll tell everybody what you're trying to do next week
so we can get lined up and the work because
they caught my eye. And if anybody's listening, this is
betweset Washington. She's a success coach and she's there to
change your life. She's not trying to force you to
change your life, but put plans in place. So tell
them about their event so we can wrap this up.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
So I would love to invite you out. If you
are tired of just thinking and wishing that something will
change for you in this next year, I would love
to invite you to results, not resolutions. It's my two
day virtual live training next Tuesday and Wednesday, December twelfth
and thirteenth, where I'm going to show you practical steps
at like tangible steps that you can use to create
(25:06):
the vision for twenty twenty four, but then also the
blueprint for how you can get there. And it will
be authentic to you. It will be in alignment with
what you desire. And I'm going to share with you
the actual tubes and processes and strategies that I've used
in my own life for the last two decades to
do everything from write you know, five books in less
(25:26):
than seven years, launch a podcast that now has seventeen
million downloads, engage in entire community, and I don't burn
out around it, and I want to show you how
you can create what you want without the burnout. So
come on over to Patrise Washington dot com slash results
right now. The early bird tickets are still available for
just forty seven dollars and you will get access to
(25:47):
two nights of training with me. My entire community will
be in small groups, breaking out doing the work in
real time, so you can leave that session with an
action plan for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Wow, that's a ruse question.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We're gonna bring up back in the first quarter to
tell us how this went, and we're gonna talk about
it early part. See, I know you catch me early
to get them right at the end. Okay, so this
is the end. We at the end, at four quarters
the end. We go catch them in the first quarter
for Trees, and with the second quarter and third quarter
and hopefully we have a group that wants to finish
strong instead of some stragglers.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Okay, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
For coming on Money making Conversations with Trees and you'd
be safe and happy holidays.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Okay, happy holidays to you. Thank you so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
By thank you for joining us for this edition of
Money Making Conversations Master Class. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with
through Sean McDonald is produced by thirty eight to fifteen
Media Inc. More information about thirty eight to fifteen Media Inc.
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And always remember to lead with your gifts
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