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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with
another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now
as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted
to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had
the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey,
don't worry, though, I got you. New episodes coming your
way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,
(00:24):
in between time, let's rewind and play back some of
my favorite interviews from season one. This week, I'll bring
you Louisiana's very own mister Lsu, mister Honey Badger himself,
my guy, my dog, Tyron, Matthew.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Appreciate you coming off for my podcast, Off the Edge
with your Boy, And you know, I just want to
ask you things straight off the rip. You know, I'm
gonna say thank you for the illustrious Honey Badger. I'm
gonna say You've got so many nicknames. I don't know
where to start. You know, we call you five, we
call you honey Badger, tiring. You know what I'm saying,
T T five Like I'm just variations here, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But three time pro bowler, a man with over thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Interceptions career because he just had a two piece, because
like before the season, I think he was at twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We talked about that joint then.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I know you had a two piece and you had
one before that for the Tuddy against the Patriots. With me,
you're sitting at thirty two Tuddies.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, often, you know, thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Two interceptions anyways, a few of them for Toddies. I
appreciate you just being on the podcast with me, Bro.
I appreciate you just taking a little bit of your time.
I know you're busy over the North Shore. You know,
the man with the legend that went to Saint from
New Orleans lives forty five minutes out.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
My first question is why you live so far away
from home.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You came home and you decided to move across the water.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
To be honest, Bro, I don't have a problem with
living on the South Shore, but you know, I think
the north Shore man. I got three kids, so you know,
I think that like the idea of like, uh, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Having like the big backyard, big front yard, you.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Know what I mean, nice pool, you know you can
do that.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I feel like on the north Shore a little bit
more than you could.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay, I say, I said, come on, come on, this
Kenner need be a Kenner. Bruh.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You could have been a Gabriel and everybody else's big houses, right.
You could have old mettery, you know, with that old money.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Wherever Drew Liveing and Peyton and the man is in them,
I'm sure you could have been right in that neighborhood
somewhere in Garden District or Lower Lower Garden District or
whatever that is down down in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Nah. I mean that's probably true.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
But to be honest, though, Bro, I like, I like
taking in that drive, like to work and like from work.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's crazy. So uh that's.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Your decompression time.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, man, you know what I mean. So then it's
a little bit of a long time to so h.
I appreciate that, Bro.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Your your my my cause my cleats Week thirteen.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
In the NFL, everybody gets to put, you know, their
own foundation, somebody else's foundation, support somebody else's foundation. Like
I went to Saint Jude Children's Hospital just because I
love the phenomenal work that they do. I went to
go to Memphis this offseason. I was like, Bro, I
was like, I walked around the campus. I was like,
this is like, why don't I do more with this?
You know what I'm saying, Like, why don't I do
more for somebody else? But you know your organization and
(03:16):
what is it? What does it mean or was it
represent for you?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, my my organization.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I started my foundation, man I wanted to say probably
like eight nine years ago. And uh, you know, the
real inspiration for me was was always my grandmother, you
know what I mean, because you know, in my mind,
in my eyes really man like, she was like the
first person that I saw that like was always like
(03:42):
in the service mod you know what I mean, like
just willing to help people like and my grandmother didn't
have much, but you know, whatever she did have, you
know what I mean, she was.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Willing to share.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And when when I got drafted to Arizona, man like,
it was a good It was a good situation for
me because I was around a good I was around
a group of football players, like guys that's probably going
to the Hall of Fame. But those dudes was like
off the field too, you know what I mean, Like, uh,
you know Kalais Campbell and you know Larry Fitzgerald, Patrick Peterson,
(04:13):
I think fits and Kalai is like one man in
the year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So like, uh, those guys were like heavy in the community.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Like for me as a rookie, you know what I mean.
So I soaked up a lot of that game. And uh,
you know, I always told myself like, man, once I
get to like my second contract, like once I'm straight
and secure, you know, I do much more you know
in the community. Uh. So it's kind of worked out
like that for me. But this year, Manu, I chose
(04:40):
to represent. Every year, I choose to present my foundation. Uh,
but this year was a little different because, uh, you know,
lately I partnered with you know, son of the Saint
uh organization you know from New Orleans, based in New Orleans,
and they got a lot to do with uh you know,
black young black kids who uh may needed like a
(05:02):
father figure, you know, maybe they need a mentor, you know,
a role model to look up to. So uh, you
know that that was kind of personal for me. So
it's been cool working with them and uh.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Shout out Sonny. Yeah whatever Sonny's last name is, I've
never known, but I.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Don't think I know it. Neither brow you say that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Hey, it''ve been dealing with with son of a.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Saint for and I feel bad now eight nine years.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah man, but now it's been cool to work with them, bro,
and uh just meet you know a lot of the kids.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You know, Uh, you know that they've been a big
blessing too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, man, Son of a saying that that's the last
time I normally since I've been in New Orleans, I
take one of these young bucks under my wing while
they're in high school, you know what I'm saying, like
a big toor mentee program, and once they get off
to college, I sent them on their way. Last last
kid I saw it was, you know, mentoring. Uh, Trey Hand,
his dad was norm Hand played for the Saints back
in the gap.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Whatever got him from son of a Saint. Trey Hand
never let Bro.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He just like inserted himself to the family boy in
college University of Arkansas, Monticello, Monticello, whatever it is. I'm
still talking to him almost weekly. I'm like, hey, man,
are you supposed to graduates a fly already? Bro?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I should have a new mintee already.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
He's like, nah, Bro, I'm family. You know what I'm saying,
but that's just that part of New Orleans, bro is
just the community feel is always there, you know, the
family feel. I try and tell people like when they
come here and aren't from here or don't know nothing
about New Orleans, I was like, if anything, the strongest
part of that about this fan base is it feels
like a real family, Like they when you hurting, they hurting.
You know, they tell you straight up on the streets
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like hey, when we win, you know, when we win,
it's good in the city. And when the Saints lose,
crime goes up. Black Air Force energy comes out.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Quick right right, speaking of being Look.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Why do we call you five?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
You?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You was like seven the l s U when it
was a prime number was thirty two in Arizona and
in Houston, knas city for show with thirty Yeah, hey
you for show thirty two? Here where five come from?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And wild like.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
So so five, so so five. I don't think I've
ever really told the story. So five actually comes from,
uh it has. It has a lot to do with
my grandmother. So most if you ask any most people
and you ask me, hey, what time is from, most
people will probably say the seven War War, and they're
right right, because there's like a catch, you know, like
(07:28):
like my first couple of years on Earth, I live
twenty nine thirty Orleans Avenue, which is the fifth Ward.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Now, the people that know me, they know that.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So that's kind of like where a five come from,
you know, because I'm like a seventh Ward dude. But
everybody know, like, man, he might really be from the
fifth Wark. That's where grandma. That's where Grandma lived.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So people say, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's where the five come from. And that's actually where
my jersey number come from two so uh you know
to plus two and so uh yeah, man, that's like,
uh what is that like a history lesson?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Man?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Man, and here and here, I'm like, yeah, that boy
really from the seventh line, and say, you know, right right,
defense dinner, you take us out to the seventh Ward,
you know, you take the whole defense to the seventh Ward.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm like, man, he's just showing love to his people's
from the fifth.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Ward, right Man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
In the locker room like, I'm like, T, you don't
be answer to the T. I'm like, five, turn right around.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I mean, we we talked about the locker room too,
but you was like earlier this season, Bro, you had
one interception and you were like, man, I was like
I gotta turn, I gotta pick up my pants.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But like I ain't never not let the team interceptions.
Then you then you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Had that two piece right and like you like you're
right on time now, Like where did that come from?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And what you see for the rest of these last
five games five?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
To be honest, Bro, Man, I just see uh and
not just me, Bro, but I see all us like, uh,
like just doing whatever it take to win, Bro.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And I mean you know how it.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Is on the defense side of the ball, Like you know,
the more the more you can take the ball away, bro,
and uh, you know, especially like in you know, late
November December, you know, going into the playoffs, like you
want to you want to be able to you know,
take the ball away and kind of help that, you know,
help you build momentum bro, and confidence. So I think defensively, Bro,
(09:28):
like that's like the model for I mean even you
like if somebody asked, Hey, do you want to just
sack the quarterback or do you want to sack and
take the ball from him? I want the whole I
want the hat trick. You know what I'm saying, like
the fumble animal recovery.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You know, need it?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, Bro?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
So uh man, just I just see all of us
manager's just just playing way more uh you know, aggressive,
you know, hungrier, you know, just trying to do whatever
it takes.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Bro. Right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
See See that's like when you have to an interception game.
They were like, oh it's vintage Tyre Matthews.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I was like vintage boy eating what vintage said, like
he oh what, what's what's up with this vintage part?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know how I get, Bro, when you get over thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Bro, you know, man, I hear you, but I don't
if I don't see no slow down, I don't hear you.
I'm over here looking like man. If they always if
they're already quick to be like he older, all right,
we'll tell some of these young boys to start out
working them. You know what I'm saying, Like that makes
everybody else elevate, if you know, if you know what
you're doing, Shoot, make them young.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Put the young bucks pressure on one time. We gotta
make we gotta make.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Them step up too, for sure, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Tell me about the leadership in the dB room, because
you know me, you know what I'm saying, Like w's loud,
I'm overly loud and active in the team. And then
you bring up your leadership, you know, to to the
to the dbs, which I've always said, dvs in every
every team ever, just I swear they don't like each other,
like in my mind, like D line, you're always gonna
be like the closest knit right, Like any team I've
(11:01):
ever been on, the D line hangs out together. Right,
we hang out every Thursday, win, lose a draw. You know,
if the even if the defense don't hang out, the
defensive line is gonna hang out.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well you know how it is on the back end,
brows on the island. Yeah, but too, bro, A lot
of us we're supposed to play like offense.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We just we just weren't good enough.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So I don't know if you you know, I don't
know if we got a living in that d but
you know, and you know what I mean, we think
it's all you know, that that prime time syndrome, you
know what I mean? Uh, But nah, Bro, I think
I think we got a good dB room, right, you know,
we got some dudes that could that could really play
you know I think for me, bro, uh, you know
(11:44):
every day knowing like I got like a young dB room.
It's just being consistent, like showing those dudes with a
consistent pro look like you know, in meetings, you know
obviously on the field, just just trying to take care
of my and it's the right way, knowing that even
if those do not necessarily asking me for advice, a
(12:06):
lot of them are watching me right right. So I
mean that's how some people learn too. They don't necessarily
communicate with you. They they can watch what you do
and watch how you act, and you know what I mean,
like it can kind of shape their perspective or you know,
their direction. So I just try to be like a
like a sound person for one, bro, like.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
A sound of mine. Uh. I try to try to
tell them the truth, you know what I mean all the.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Time, keeping shoot shooting buck at all times for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And Bro, you do you do it as.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Such like a calm demeanor, Bro, like you so level
in the room, Like I'd be like, I'm like, Bro,
I don't know how to shake, because you know me,
I'll be out there shaking the room up. I'm come,
I'm come to like no this is what we're doing,
this how we're doing it, This is what we're going
to do. This is where we're going. Like it's a response,
you'll be like, man, that ain't right. The boys just
be like he's saying that.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
You mean this? Yeah for sure, bro?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And you know, like I said, I think a lot
of that got to do with like you know, each
and other day that they're gonna get the same time,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Like, so they could come on.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That consistency, which is crazy, brocause like when you came
in to leave, Bro, you had vets, like you know,
Pat p was your dog from LSU, you know, over
over at the Cardinals. But you know, I feel like
you could relate so much more to these guys because
you know, like, yeah, I was the first rounder.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You were you know, you were coming from LSU.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You were that guy. And then you face some adversity
over LSU. You know what I'm saying, You had obstions
to overcome. They try to hit you with that like
troubled the troubled youth syndrome or something. So you fell
a couple of rounds into the draft, right, But Bro,
your your story about you being consistent just like elevating
your play every year. Like I feel like some of
(13:47):
these guys don't really know what you've done and what
you've accomplished, bro. So like when you're cool, call them
to me and I'm like, bro, these like these boys
are taking it for what it is, Like this is
tyring now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm like, bro, if you tell them the.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Real like how you started off, everybody was really accounted
you out, but you was just too cold to be
counted out, right, Like I feel like that would be
that would hit home for some of these knuckleheads.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, I'm like, bro, like y'all don't know what you
got in this room right here, and you bro, you
so humble like you don't even mention it. I'm like,
just like he used to war number seven LSU like
he was that guy like you can there's only one
of them, Like there's a playmaker in the work.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Number seven. You know you come into the league.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
He was punk returner doing like playing playing that little
you know that roam around boys out there getting really
active like they know you from Kansas City years.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm like, bro, like look at his body of work.
That's what I'm saying, Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You gotta tell him like I like, I'm like, I
tell him like it used to be so even consistent.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Bro, It's crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I just I mean, like I said, Bro, I don't really.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know, I don't try to be nothing special, you know,
you know I definitely don't try to uh force anything.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know, body, you know what I mean? And so
uh man, some dudes come.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Around earlier, right, like you know, you may you know,
we may sign a dude with tomorrow, right and he
may gravitate towards me and ask me like, you know, man.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
How you did it? Right?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like like how you how you stuck around so long?
And and then you know, other guys, it may take
him a while, you know what I mean, to come
around and you know, ask like those real questions.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I always I've always talked about it on this podcast
or whatever, like it just brings me back to you,
of course, like that business side of football, even like
you though you play for the home team now, like
I remember, we we copped you, you know, we copt
you off free agency?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What does that free agency feel like? You know what
I'm saying, like, what does what does that feel like?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
In terms of being at a team, and like when
you came to us from from can't see, Like, Bro,
you they didn't even offer you Like did that add
a chip on your shoulder? Like how did it make
you feel? How are you like, you know, how did
that change your mindset? And if it did at all?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Man?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
To be honest, bro, I think for some dudes, freegency
is right, Like, I mean, it's probably like one of
the best moments of their life, you know. Uh, you
know a lot of them going to you know, sign
you know pretty good, you know contracts, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And I think for other players it's different.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You know, for me, for example, right, and I mean
we was kind of talking about it earlier right in
the show. I've always felt h a responsibility to like
the communities I played in, and so.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You know, most players don't.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Do it right, right, Like most guys aren't invested outside
of the defensive meeting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Going home and like like nothing else exists.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know, all these all these schools out here, all
these people that you could like touch effect, be around,
learn your community, do all this like anyways.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But you know, uh, not for me, Like it was
tough because like I didn't know I was going to
the Saints. I didn't know, like I didn't know the
situation that was like waiting for me, right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
So you know when you when you like have those
type of you know, uh moments like where man, you're like,
damn you like, bro, I just sacrificed three yearss like
I gave everything I could, you know, to whatever organization,
right and so and then it's.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Time for you to move on, right.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And for some players it's easy to move on, you
know what I mean, like they don't really care. And
I think for other players, which is a small percentage,
like like they wear that, you know what I mean,
and so uh. But the blessing in my situation was,
you know, even though it took me a while, you know,
to kind of get over you know, damn, I an'tbody
(18:00):
be a chief no more. And you know, I got
kids that you know, like love the chiefs and you know,
and you know, I got a family, like you know
what I mean, like like this this is our home
right and you know, now you got to pick up
and move. So it's a lot of those type of
you know, conversations and you know issues.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You gotta kind of iron out.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
But but the blessing for me was, man, like, you know,
like I got a chance to come back home. You know,
I got a chance to come back to the crib. So,
you know, as bad as it kind of stunk for me,
like damn, you know, I ain't gonna be a part
of that no more, but you know, you never know
that what God got waiting on you.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So to the crew we go.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That was a blessing for me, bro. But but some dudes, man, like,
they don't have that, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Know, we signed you and then I was like, all right, cool,
and then you didn't show up to the training camp
and I was.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Like, hey, what what the hell did happen? They're like
and he was like, yeah, he said, he's having some family.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
She's like, you just had to get your mind right
from that, Like I never asked, and I've always wondered,
like right, like, I was like, man, he come home.
You got to make sure. You got to make sure
everybody everybody knows he here for business and not pleasure.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Right, And man, that was that was important for me. Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
You know, you know, I've been in the league long enough.
You know, I've done a lot of good things, right,
and you know, I felt like I had kind of
earned that grace right to be able to take that
time right because you see dudes that don't take the
time right. And then after a while, you like, now
what happened to him? Like like why why? Why is
(19:34):
it like that with him?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And it could be you know, him getting in trouble,
It could be it could be a bunch of different.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
And so for me, man, you you try to avoid
that because you know when you when you lock in
on the football season, like that that's important, you know
what I'm saying, Like like that's what's putting food on
the table, Like that's what's allowing with your kids to
travel the world and right, so like you won't be
all in right, like you on half of your mind
(20:01):
to be on football and then the other half you
worrying about all these different things that that's kind of
going on outside of it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So but yeah, bro, like like like that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I was like I've been waiting. I was like we
talked that, Like I was like you're like, man, I'm
good now. I was like, good now, what the hell
that means?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like all right, and then we got to see you've
been locked in forever from them, and you know, the
second year with the team, you know, three interceptions in.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'm like, Bro, he's gonna finish with six. I don't care.
I'm calling it bro.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So that being said, Bro, everything that you you know
you've done, city, city, community, community with your foundation, team
up with son of son of a saint leads you
to you know, now being told you know you're the
Saints Walter Payton Man of the Year. Uh, you know
Canada in for New Orleans? Like how does that make
you feel? Just feel different than anywhere else? Does it
feel different because it's hometown and you you like you
(20:53):
really got the key to the city, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Bro, seven seven war five man.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Because you know, really, Bro, like that that's that's that's
why I did it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know that that's why you do the right things.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
That's that's why you know, you try to get your
life on track. It wasn't for like people that didn't
know me, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
you don't try to put together a successful life or
a successful career for people that don't know you, right,
You want people that do know you to be proud
of you, you know what I mean. And so like
(21:27):
like I say that to say, bro, like my motivation
has always been New Orleans, right, and like trying to
make my people proud, and you know, trying to make
my family proud.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And you know, like my grandmother not here no more,
but like I knew she would be you know, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
So for me, bro, Man, it's just a full circle
moment because it's like damn like.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Like all of because because a lot of times, bro.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Like early on in my career, right, like, uh, when
I was quote unquote uh a different person you know,
was always the same person, right, I was.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Just a eighteen nineteen year old who you know got.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
In trouble, right, and they just hit you with that
troubled youth he said, like, hell he's trouble, come on, right,
One incidence doesn't make you trouble, right.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But you know, early on in the league, bro, like you,
especially me, I missed out on what I feel like
it is a lot of fun because I was so
focused on a game, right, Like I wanted to have
a successful career. So man, I ain't start going on
vacations to like my fourth year in the league. You
know what I'm saying, Like in all season none none,
bro like and but but that was like the level
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of sacrifice like that I that I had right and
so but you don't feel that when you're doing it right.
You're like, damn, all my teammates going up there in
the Bahamans date they this way, like they having a
ball and here you is just so focused on not
messing it up. And so you know, it was some
moments early on in my career like damn, bro, like
(23:01):
it don't even feel like I'm in the league because
you know, I'm so serious right, like, like I'm just
trying to do the right thing. So so it's good
to look back on that, bro and be like, damn,
you made the right decision, Like you was doing the
right things.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Like right, like all that paid off.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So what was what was that transition? Though?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Like was that was that you adding on like meditating?
Was that you like you know, guys, guys in locker room,
we have doctor doctor Chambliss or whatever, you know, a
therapy coach and like, and I always say that because
I know there's a stigma around athletes or even black
men in general, you know, not wanting to go to therapy.
And I'm like, bro, like go talk it out. I
try to tell you know, my young books. Now, I'm like, hey, man,
(23:41):
talk to somebody sooner rather than later. Like I didn't
even think about talking to a therapist or having therapy
sessions or even somebody you can bounce ideas off until
I was like eight years in and you you.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Try it out, You're like, this ain't bad. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I won't see you every week, but I see you sometimes.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Right right, man? I loved actually were just talking about it.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
You know. Last last year for training camp, I think
I missed like six practices, like three of those days.
I was like like in a uh it was like
a wellness therapy uh you know center, right, So like
I'm always down for that, Like I still I still
got my therapist, you know that I talked to.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
What the hell is a wellness therapy therapy?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
SHT?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Like like it's like a resort, Like man, it's like,
uh is a car wash for the mind?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, bro, basically, but it's like different things like obviously
you know any therapist session, right, people, Most people think
of therapy and they thinking like, oh man, I got
to sit in front of somebody and telling my whole
life story.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And and they're trying to find the root to all
my problems, like don't solve me.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
You know a lot of people don't like doing that.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't really like doing it, but I know when
I have to do it, it's kind of cool to
release that. But the place I went to, man, it's like, man,
you go for walks on the lake, you know you uh,
they got like horse therapy, you know what I mean,
Like it's just you on a horse and you you know,
rubbing the horse.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Man. It's crazy, bro, But it's like it's therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You and you and you and you and your z
you know.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
So yeah, bro, But but but but my transition broke
was it was serious, bro, because obviously you you do
the therapy, you know part of it. But you know,
I had started really getting into like yoga, you know
what I'm saying, and like meditation right and you know
a lot of people that I work with now was
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on them. I credit them too, man, because I had
like a good kind of supports, Like I said.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Bro, I had Larry and LEAs and pat.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
So it's like I had I had all their resources, right,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So, shoot, you probably even had Darnell Dockett big strolls,
big stroll.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like you need something, you need some muscle therapy.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Bro, But that was any of that dude, doctors was
that thing was trying to take me out, buy me
Jordan's you.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Know what I'm saying. You wanted me to enjoy myself.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know yeah team jump Man jump and shout out
Jordan Jordan brand.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I love it, bro, Like like I said, I just
like I like to talk about.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just you know that mental health and wellness too, because
in this game, bro, we give so much to it.
Like you give and give and give and give and
realize you depleted without knowing that you depleted.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Like why am I edgy? Why am I irritable?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Why am I? You know?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
My body hurts, my mind hurts, and everything, like you know,
my family still wants to to cuddle and lay down.
You're like, bro, don't touch me. Why you know what
I'm saying? Like, or you know, all all I do
is is deal with football and then I'm out in public.
I'm dealing with fans. So you know you you don't
even really know your real self. So sometimes it's cool
to just decompress and figure out who you are. And
(26:50):
sometimes you need other people to help you with that,
you know, again just to bounce ideas off. So I
just I just love trying to break that stigma of
like we don't need to talk to people, you know
what I'm saying, Like, as human beings, we're social, people's
supposed to community, We're supposed to communicate. My wife, my
wife is definitely gonna use that against me on this episode.
She was like, so we're supposed to communicate.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Just not right. I'm like, I do just what you
want all my interfelings, come on, relax, take it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Easy, right, disclaimer right now. But uh all right, let's
let's get off that heavy and get into something like
you know, coming from coming from New Orleans, I want
to know what your what your favorite restaurant is out here?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
My favorite restaurant, bro? Yeah, I don't even think it's
a restaurant, bro.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What you mean?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean like, because you know, someplace to sell food,
but it's like should they be selling food?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Should they be selling food?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
But the food decent though, you know, Like so it's like,
you know, but nah, so they got a.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Store called a Red Rooster, and like I said, I
don't think it's.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
A like the like the hot sauce.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, okay, so but the catch is it's like Ronald
Cording from the Magnolian.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So you know, but they got the best hot sized
sandwich in the world.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Bro, But come in coming anywhere to to New Orleans
and everybody pushing hot sausage.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Didn't hit right from me. It didn't hit right for
me for a long time. They're like they're like, hey,
lead bod.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Bro, I love them. I love hot saage.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I think I love them too, bro, because I don't
eat them as much now since I've been back home,
right because like you can get them whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Right right.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But it's like, Bro, when I was living in Arizona.
In Kansas City, we had I couldn't wait to get out.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You know what I'm saying, Hey, you know of from Arizona.
So that's what I'm saying. That hot sausage was not
on no platelet. You can get Charriso.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You get your trees burrito up in that thing, five eggs.
You know, sometimes put fried squad. You know, Pico and
some chariso. You ain't getting no hot sausage?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
What no out here?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm like, like you a hot sausage? Why are you
always forcing this issue?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Feil no?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I would like turkey sausage please.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Right now, I need to know what other slang comes
from New Orleans. Bootkoo's really from back rouge, but like
it could be for New Orleans, like it could.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I feel like I was.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I feel like I was saying boot coo when I
was in the first grade, which is which is just
I think back on just moments like that.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And I'm like, like, is that really you.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Was using that word in the first grade? Just so
so young, too young to be so ignorant.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Just mean more, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Land?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, I ain't started using land up until I got
to New Orleans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
laniah definitely a New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
French word for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Or you know you have a birthday, like bro I
you know, I just turned eighteen. Everywhere else in the
world except New Orleans. Boys be out here, I just
made eighteen.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I just made eighteen. Just that, just made thirty one, just.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Made thirty eight, and I'm like, bro, why is that
an accomplishment to make thirty one? Like, okay, that's take
your blessings. I just made groceries. What you mean That's
probably the biggest transition when you come to New Orleans,
something like, yeah, I just made groceries.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
How you make groceries?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
A lot of your words are like in the rooms
spot you know, it shouldn't be that word.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Switching that join up.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So I'm like, g Night for show, gotta be the
different slang word like gin. I've heard you know, g
Phaso's forces, you know the ones whatever, But g Night's
New Orleans Bookoo, were gonna say New Orleans. You know
we're gonna we're gonna throw made.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I made eighteen. I made groceries. That's just don't don't
add up? Still add up out here.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And they got more. It's like a million of those words, Bro.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You got you get that New Orleans and them boys
started to start rattling off, and you be like, I
don't think I'm falling this conversation more. As we went
around way, we'd make we have make we had make
some food real quick, make some groceries. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
legit don't turn. I'll be like, bro, where did we
go with this? And how did we get here?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Who?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Who?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Who made y'all to speak like this?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
To be honest, Bro, I think it all goes back
to the gumbo saying. It's just like you just got
a bunch of different people, bro, from like a bunch
of different places, and you know, like they're all trying
to talk the same language, but they speak different languages.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
And these are the words we end up with.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Right, you know, Boo boo boo, the French creole something
a native American Spanish somewhere all the dip that into
a big bowl of gumbo.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Which is New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
All right, Well, anyway, Bro, I'm gonna get you out
of there. I was trying to keep it at thirty,
but I'm always going over that's my part. I A right, Hey,
I appreciate you tapping in, bro with with your boy
on off the edge like so, I love I love
having a podcast just to talk to my boys because
I always get like, you know, the producer sitting the
cheat sheet of you boy, You're like, no, I knew
he was a three time Pro Bowl and nah, I
knew all this.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He's super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But I get to I could to learn like things
I didn't know about, you know, like like I know
what your middle name is.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying, Like I can there, Ran,
I'm like, oh, divine, divine, the tyrant, divine, Matthew, the coldest.
I appreciate you tapping in.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Boy man, I appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So there you have it. It's a wrap.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I just want to say a huge thank you to
all my awesome listeners for rocking with me. I've got
a whole locker room full of my favorite interviews from
season one coming your way.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But before I go, you know the drill. Come on now.
Make sure to.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Drop us a five star rating or review and hit
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you get your podcasts. You can also catch us on
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
Till next time, I'm out.
What's up people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with
another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now
as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted
to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had
the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey,
don't worry, though, I got you. New episodes coming your
way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,
(00:24):
in between time, let's rewind and play back some of
my favorite interviews from season one. This week, I'll bring
you Louisiana's very own mister Lsu, mister Honey Badger himself,
my guy, my dog, Tyron, Matthew.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Appreciate you coming off for my podcast, Off the Edge
with your Boy, And you know, I just want to
ask you things straight off the rip. You know, I'm
gonna say thank you for the illustrious Honey Badger. I'm
gonna say You've got so many nicknames. I don't know
where to start. You know, we call you five, we
call you honey Badger, tiring. You know what I'm saying,
T T five Like I'm just variations here, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But three time pro bowler, a man with over thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Interceptions career because he just had a two piece, because
like before the season, I think he was at twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We talked about that joint then.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I know you had a two piece and you had
one before that for the Tuddy against the Patriots. With me,
you're sitting at thirty two Tuddies.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, often, you know, thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Two interceptions anyways, a few of them for Toddies. I
appreciate you just being on the podcast with me, Bro.
I appreciate you just taking a little bit of your time.
I know you're busy over the North Shore. You know,
the man with the legend that went to Saint from
New Orleans lives forty five minutes out.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
My first question is why you live so far away
from home.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You came home and you decided to move across the water.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
To be honest, Bro, I don't have a problem with
living on the South Shore, but you know, I think
the north Shore man. I got three kids, so you know,
I think that like the idea of like, uh, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Having like the big backyard, big front yard, you.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Know what I mean, nice pool, you know you can
do that.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I feel like on the north Shore a little bit
more than you could.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay, I say, I said, come on, come on, this
Kenner need be a Kenner. Bruh.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You could have been a Gabriel and everybody else's big houses, right.
You could have old mettery, you know, with that old money.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Wherever Drew Liveing and Peyton and the man is in them,
I'm sure you could have been right in that neighborhood
somewhere in Garden District or Lower Lower Garden District or
whatever that is down down in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Nah. I mean that's probably true.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
But to be honest, though, Bro, I like, I like
taking in that drive, like to work and like from work.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's crazy. So uh that's.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Your decompression time.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, man, you know what I mean. So then it's
a little bit of a long time to so h.
I appreciate that, Bro.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Your your my my cause my cleats Week thirteen.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
In the NFL, everybody gets to put, you know, their
own foundation, somebody else's foundation, support somebody else's foundation. Like
I went to Saint Jude Children's Hospital just because I
love the phenomenal work that they do. I went to
go to Memphis this offseason. I was like, Bro, I
was like, I walked around the campus. I was like,
this is like, why don't I do more with this?
You know what I'm saying, Like, why don't I do
more for somebody else? But you know your organization and
(03:16):
what is it? What does it mean or was it
represent for you?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, my my organization.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I started my foundation, man I wanted to say probably
like eight nine years ago. And uh, you know, the
real inspiration for me was was always my grandmother, you
know what I mean, because you know, in my mind,
in my eyes really man like, she was like the
first person that I saw that like was always like
(03:42):
in the service mod you know what I mean, like
just willing to help people like and my grandmother didn't
have much, but you know, whatever she did have, you
know what I mean, she was.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Willing to share.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And when when I got drafted to Arizona, man like,
it was a good It was a good situation for
me because I was around a good I was around
a group of football players, like guys that's probably going
to the Hall of Fame. But those dudes was like
off the field too, you know what I mean, Like, uh,
you know Kalais Campbell and you know Larry Fitzgerald, Patrick Peterson,
(04:13):
I think fits and Kalai is like one man in
the year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So like, uh, those guys were like heavy in the community.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Like for me as a rookie, you know what I mean.
So I soaked up a lot of that game. And uh,
you know, I always told myself like, man, once I
get to like my second contract, like once I'm straight
and secure, you know, I do much more you know
in the community. Uh. So it's kind of worked out
like that for me. But this year, Manu, I chose
(04:40):
to represent. Every year, I choose to present my foundation. Uh,
but this year was a little different because, uh, you know,
lately I partnered with you know, son of the Saint
uh organization you know from New Orleans, based in New Orleans,
and they got a lot to do with uh you know,
black young black kids who uh may needed like a
(05:02):
father figure, you know, maybe they need a mentor, you know,
a role model to look up to. So uh, you
know that that was kind of personal for me. So
it's been cool working with them and uh.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Shout out Sonny. Yeah whatever Sonny's last name is, I've
never known, but I.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Don't think I know it. Neither brow you say that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Hey, it''ve been dealing with with son of a.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Saint for and I feel bad now eight nine years.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah man, but now it's been cool to work with them, bro,
and uh just meet you know a lot of the kids.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You know, Uh, you know that they've been a big
blessing too.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, man, Son of a saying that that's the last
time I normally since I've been in New Orleans, I
take one of these young bucks under my wing while
they're in high school, you know what I'm saying, like
a big toor mentee program, and once they get off
to college, I sent them on their way. Last last
kid I saw it was, you know, mentoring. Uh, Trey Hand,
his dad was norm Hand played for the Saints back
in the gap.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Whatever got him from son of a Saint. Trey Hand
never let Bro.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He just like inserted himself to the family boy in
college University of Arkansas, Monticello, Monticello, whatever it is. I'm
still talking to him almost weekly. I'm like, hey, man,
are you supposed to graduates a fly already? Bro?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I should have a new mintee already.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
He's like, nah, Bro, I'm family. You know what I'm saying,
but that's just that part of New Orleans, bro is
just the community feel is always there, you know, the
family feel. I try and tell people like when they
come here and aren't from here or don't know nothing
about New Orleans, I was like, if anything, the strongest
part of that about this fan base is it feels
like a real family, Like they when you hurting, they hurting.
You know, they tell you straight up on the streets
(06:35):
like hey, when we win, you know, when we win,
it's good in the city. And when the Saints lose,
crime goes up. Black Air Force energy comes out.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Quick right right, speaking of being Look.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Why do we call you five?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
You?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You was like seven the l s U when it
was a prime number was thirty two in Arizona and
in Houston, knas city for show with thirty Yeah, hey
you for show thirty two? Here where five come from?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And wild like.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
So so five, so so five. I don't think I've
ever really told the story. So five actually comes from,
uh it has. It has a lot to do with
my grandmother. So most if you ask any most people
and you ask me, hey, what time is from, most
people will probably say the seven War War, and they're
right right, because there's like a catch, you know, like
(07:28):
like my first couple of years on Earth, I live
twenty nine thirty Orleans Avenue, which is the fifth Ward.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Now, the people that know me, they know that.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So that's kind of like where a five come from,
you know, because I'm like a seventh Ward dude. But
everybody know, like, man, he might really be from the
fifth Wark. That's where grandma. That's where Grandma lived.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So people say, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's where the five come from. And that's actually where
my jersey number come from two so uh you know
to plus two and so uh yeah, man, that's like,
uh what is that like a history lesson?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Man?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Man, and here and here, I'm like, yeah, that boy
really from the seventh line, and say, you know, right right,
defense dinner, you take us out to the seventh Ward,
you know, you take the whole defense to the seventh Ward.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm like, man, he's just showing love to his people's
from the fifth.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Ward, right Man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
In the locker room like, I'm like, T, you don't
be answer to the T. I'm like, five, turn right around.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I mean, we we talked about the locker room too,
but you was like earlier this season, Bro, you had
one interception and you were like, man, I was like
I gotta turn, I gotta pick up my pants.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But like I ain't never not let the team interceptions.
Then you then you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Had that two piece right and like you like you're
right on time now, Like where did that come from?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And what you see for the rest of these last
five games five?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
To be honest, Bro, Man, I just see uh and
not just me, Bro, but I see all us like, uh,
like just doing whatever it take to win, Bro.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And I mean you know how it.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Is on the defense side of the ball, Like you know,
the more the more you can take the ball away, bro,
and uh, you know, especially like in you know, late
November December, you know, going into the playoffs, like you
want to you want to be able to you know,
take the ball away and kind of help that, you know,
help you build momentum bro, and confidence. So I think defensively, Bro,
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like that's like the model for I mean even you
like if somebody asked, Hey, do you want to just
sack the quarterback or do you want to sack and
take the ball from him? I want the whole I
want the hat trick. You know what I'm saying, like
the fumble animal recovery.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You know, need it?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, Bro?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
So uh man, just I just see all of us
manager's just just playing way more uh you know, aggressive,
you know, hungrier, you know, just trying to do whatever
it takes.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Bro. Right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
See See that's like when you have to an interception game.
They were like, oh it's vintage Tyre Matthews.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I was like vintage boy eating what vintage said, like
he oh what, what's what's up with this vintage part?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know how I get, Bro, when you get over thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Bro, you know, man, I hear you, but I don't
if I don't see no slow down, I don't hear you.
I'm over here looking like man. If they always if
they're already quick to be like he older, all right,
we'll tell some of these young boys to start out
working them. You know what I'm saying, Like that makes
everybody else elevate, if you know, if you know what
you're doing, Shoot, make them young.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Put the young bucks pressure on one time. We gotta
make we gotta make.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Them step up too, for sure, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Tell me about the leadership in the dB room, because
you know me, you know what I'm saying, Like w's loud,
I'm overly loud and active in the team. And then
you bring up your leadership, you know, to to the
to the dbs, which I've always said, dvs in every
every team ever, just I swear they don't like each other,
like in my mind, like D line, you're always gonna
be like the closest knit right, Like any team I've
(11:01):
ever been on, the D line hangs out together. Right,
we hang out every Thursday, win, lose a draw. You know,
if the even if the defense don't hang out, the
defensive line is gonna hang out.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well you know how it is on the back end,
brows on the island. Yeah, but too, bro, A lot
of us we're supposed to play like offense.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We just we just weren't good enough.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So I don't know if you you know, I don't
know if we got a living in that d but
you know, and you know what I mean, we think
it's all you know, that that prime time syndrome, you
know what I mean? Uh, But nah, Bro, I think
I think we got a good dB room, right, you know,
we got some dudes that could that could really play
you know I think for me, bro, uh, you know
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every day knowing like I got like a young dB room.
It's just being consistent, like showing those dudes with a
consistent pro look like you know, in meetings, you know
obviously on the field, just just trying to take care
of my and it's the right way, knowing that even
if those do not necessarily asking me for advice, a
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lot of them are watching me right right. So I
mean that's how some people learn too. They don't necessarily
communicate with you. They they can watch what you do
and watch how you act, and you know what I mean,
like it can kind of shape their perspective or you know,
their direction. So I just try to be like a
like a sound person for one, bro, like.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
A sound of mine. Uh. I try to try to
tell them the truth, you know what I mean all the.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Time, keeping shoot shooting buck at all times for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And Bro, you do you do it as.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Such like a calm demeanor, Bro, like you so level
in the room, Like I'd be like, I'm like, Bro,
I don't know how to shake, because you know me,
I'll be out there shaking the room up. I'm come,
I'm come to like no this is what we're doing,
this how we're doing it, This is what we're going
to do. This is where we're going. Like it's a response,
you'll be like, man, that ain't right. The boys just
be like he's saying that.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
You mean this? Yeah for sure, bro?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And you know, like I said, I think a lot
of that got to do with like you know, each
and other day that they're gonna get the same time,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Like, so they could come on.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That consistency, which is crazy, brocause like when you came
in to leave, Bro, you had vets, like you know,
Pat p was your dog from LSU, you know, over
over at the Cardinals. But you know, I feel like
you could relate so much more to these guys because
you know, like, yeah, I was the first rounder.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You were you know, you were coming from LSU.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You were that guy. And then you face some adversity
over LSU. You know what I'm saying, You had obstions
to overcome. They try to hit you with that like
troubled the troubled youth syndrome or something. So you fell
a couple of rounds into the draft, right, But Bro,
your your story about you being consistent just like elevating
your play every year. Like I feel like some of
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these guys don't really know what you've done and what
you've accomplished, bro. So like when you're cool, call them
to me and I'm like, bro, these like these boys
are taking it for what it is, Like this is
tyring now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm like, bro, if you tell them the.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Real like how you started off, everybody was really accounted
you out, but you was just too cold to be
counted out, right, Like I feel like that would be
that would hit home for some of these knuckleheads.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, I'm like, bro, like y'all don't know what you
got in this room right here, and you bro, you
so humble like you don't even mention it. I'm like,
just like he used to war number seven LSU like
he was that guy like you can there's only one
of them, Like there's a playmaker in the work.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Number seven. You know you come into the league.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
He was punk returner doing like playing playing that little
you know that roam around boys out there getting really
active like they know you from Kansas City years.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm like, bro, like look at his body of work.
That's what I'm saying, Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You gotta tell him like I like, I'm like, I
tell him like it used to be so even consistent.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Bro, It's crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I just I mean, like I said, Bro, I don't really.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know, I don't try to be nothing special, you know,
you know I definitely don't try to uh force anything.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know, body, you know what I mean? And so
uh man, some dudes come.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Around earlier, right, like you know, you may you know,
we may sign a dude with tomorrow, right and he
may gravitate towards me and ask me like, you know, man.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
How you did it? Right?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like like how you how you stuck around so long?
And and then you know, other guys, it may take
him a while, you know what I mean, to come
around and you know, ask like those real questions.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I always I've always talked about it on this podcast
or whatever, like it just brings me back to you,
of course, like that business side of football, even like
you though you play for the home team now, like
I remember, we we copped you, you know, we copt
you off free agency?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What does that free agency feel like? You know what
I'm saying, like, what does what does that feel like?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
In terms of being at a team, and like when
you came to us from from can't see, Like, Bro,
you they didn't even offer you Like did that add
a chip on your shoulder? Like how did it make
you feel? How are you like, you know, how did
that change your mindset? And if it did at all?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Man?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
To be honest, bro, I think for some dudes, freegency
is right, Like, I mean, it's probably like one of
the best moments of their life, you know. Uh, you
know a lot of them going to you know, sign
you know pretty good, you know contracts, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And I think for other players it's different.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You know, for me, for example, right, and I mean
we was kind of talking about it earlier right in
the show. I've always felt h a responsibility to like
the communities I played in, and so.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You know, most players don't.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Do it right, right, Like most guys aren't invested outside
of the defensive meeting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Going home and like like nothing else exists.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know, all these all these schools out here, all
these people that you could like touch effect, be around,
learn your community, do all this like anyways.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But you know, uh, not for me, Like it was
tough because like I didn't know I was going to
the Saints. I didn't know, like I didn't know the
situation that was like waiting for me, right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
So you know when you when you like have those
type of you know, uh moments like where man, you're like,
damn you like, bro, I just sacrificed three yearss like
I gave everything I could, you know, to whatever organization,
right and so and then it's.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Time for you to move on, right.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And for some players it's easy to move on, you
know what I mean, like they don't really care. And
I think for other players, which is a small percentage,
like like they wear that, you know what I mean,
and so uh. But the blessing in my situation was,
you know, even though it took me a while, you know,
to kind of get over you know, damn, I an'tbody
(18:00):
be a chief no more. And you know, I got
kids that you know, like love the chiefs and you know,
and you know, I got a family, like you know
what I mean, like like this this is our home
right and you know, now you got to pick up
and move. So it's a lot of those type of
you know, conversations and you know issues.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You gotta kind of iron out.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
But but the blessing for me was, man, like, you know,
like I got a chance to come back home. You know,
I got a chance to come back to the crib. So,
you know, as bad as it kind of stunk for me,
like damn, you know, I ain't gonna be a part
of that no more, but you know, you never know
that what God got waiting on you.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So to the crew we go.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That was a blessing for me, bro. But but some dudes, man, like,
they don't have that, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Know, we signed you and then I was like, all right, cool,
and then you didn't show up to the training camp
and I was.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Like, hey, what what the hell did happen? They're like
and he was like, yeah, he said, he's having some family.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
She's like, you just had to get your mind right
from that, Like I never asked, and I've always wondered,
like right, like, I was like, man, he come home.
You got to make sure. You got to make sure
everybody everybody knows he here for business and not pleasure.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Right, And man, that was that was important for me. Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
You know, you know, I've been in the league long enough.
You know, I've done a lot of good things, right,
and you know, I felt like I had kind of
earned that grace right to be able to take that
time right because you see dudes that don't take the
time right. And then after a while, you like, now
what happened to him? Like like why why? Why is
(19:34):
it like that with him?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And it could be you know, him getting in trouble,
It could be it could be a bunch of different.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
And so for me, man, you you try to avoid
that because you know when you when you lock in
on the football season, like that that's important, you know
what I'm saying, Like like that's what's putting food on
the table, Like that's what's allowing with your kids to
travel the world and right, so like you won't be
all in right, like you on half of your mind
(20:01):
to be on football and then the other half you
worrying about all these different things that that's kind of
going on outside of it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So but yeah, bro, like like like that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I was like I've been waiting. I was like we
talked that, Like I was like you're like, man, I'm
good now. I was like, good now, what the hell
that means?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like all right, and then we got to see you've
been locked in forever from them, and you know, the
second year with the team, you know, three interceptions in.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'm like, Bro, he's gonna finish with six. I don't care.
I'm calling it bro.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So that being said, Bro, everything that you you know
you've done, city, city, community, community with your foundation, team
up with son of son of a saint leads you
to you know, now being told you know you're the
Saints Walter Payton Man of the Year. Uh, you know
Canada in for New Orleans? Like how does that make
you feel? Just feel different than anywhere else? Does it
feel different because it's hometown and you you like you
(20:53):
really got the key to the city, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Bro, seven seven war five man.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Because you know, really, Bro, like that that's that's that's
why I did it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know that that's why you do the right things.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
That's that's why you know, you try to get your
life on track. It wasn't for like people that didn't
know me, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
you don't try to put together a successful life or
a successful career for people that don't know you, right,
You want people that do know you to be proud
of you, you know what I mean. And so like
(21:27):
like I say that to say, bro, like my motivation
has always been New Orleans, right, and like trying to
make my people proud, and you know, trying to make
my family proud.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And you know, like my grandmother not here no more,
but like I knew she would be you know, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
So for me, bro, Man, it's just a full circle
moment because it's like damn like.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Like all of because because a lot of times, bro.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Like early on in my career, right, like, uh, when
I was quote unquote uh a different person you know,
was always the same person, right, I was.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Just a eighteen nineteen year old who you know got.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
In trouble, right, and they just hit you with that
troubled youth he said, like, hell he's trouble, come on, right,
One incidence doesn't make you trouble, right.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But you know, early on in the league, bro, like you,
especially me, I missed out on what I feel like
it is a lot of fun because I was so
focused on a game, right, Like I wanted to have
a successful career. So man, I ain't start going on
vacations to like my fourth year in the league. You
know what I'm saying, Like in all season none none,
bro like and but but that was like the level
(22:40):
of sacrifice like that I that I had right and
so but you don't feel that when you're doing it right.
You're like, damn, all my teammates going up there in
the Bahamans date they this way, like they having a
ball and here you is just so focused on not
messing it up. And so you know, it was some
moments early on in my career like damn, bro, like
(23:01):
it don't even feel like I'm in the league because
you know, I'm so serious right, like, like I'm just
trying to do the right thing. So so it's good
to look back on that, bro and be like, damn,
you made the right decision, Like you was doing the
right things.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Like right, like all that paid off.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So what was what was that transition? Though?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Like was that was that you adding on like meditating?
Was that you like you know, guys, guys in locker room,
we have doctor doctor Chambliss or whatever, you know, a
therapy coach and like, and I always say that because
I know there's a stigma around athletes or even black
men in general, you know, not wanting to go to therapy.
And I'm like, bro, like go talk it out. I
try to tell you know, my young books. Now, I'm like, hey, man,
(23:41):
talk to somebody sooner rather than later. Like I didn't
even think about talking to a therapist or having therapy
sessions or even somebody you can bounce ideas off until
I was like eight years in and you you.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Try it out, You're like, this ain't bad. I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I won't see you every week, but I see you sometimes.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Right right, man? I loved actually were just talking about it.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
You know. Last last year for training camp, I think
I missed like six practices, like three of those days.
I was like like in a uh it was like
a wellness therapy uh you know center, right, So like
I'm always down for that, Like I still I still
got my therapist, you know that I talked to.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
What the hell is a wellness therapy therapy?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
SHT?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Like like it's like a resort, Like man, it's like,
uh is a car wash for the mind?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, bro, basically, but it's like different things like obviously
you know any therapist session, right, people, Most people think
of therapy and they thinking like, oh man, I got
to sit in front of somebody and telling my whole
life story.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And and they're trying to find the root to all
my problems, like don't solve me.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
You know a lot of people don't like doing that.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't really like doing it, but I know when
I have to do it, it's kind of cool to
release that. But the place I went to, man, it's like, man,
you go for walks on the lake, you know you uh,
they got like horse therapy, you know what I mean,
Like it's just you on a horse and you you know,
rubbing the horse.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Man. It's crazy, bro, But it's like it's therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You and you and you and you and your z
you know.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
So yeah, bro, But but but but my transition broke
was it was serious, bro, because obviously you you do
the therapy, you know part of it. But you know,
I had started really getting into like yoga, you know
what I'm saying, and like meditation right and you know
a lot of people that I work with now was
(25:36):
on them. I credit them too, man, because I had
like a good kind of supports, Like I said.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Bro, I had Larry and LEAs and pat.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
So it's like I had I had all their resources, right,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So, shoot, you probably even had Darnell Dockett big strolls,
big stroll.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like you need something, you need some muscle therapy.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Bro, But that was any of that dude, doctors was
that thing was trying to take me out, buy me
Jordan's you.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Know what I'm saying. You wanted me to enjoy myself.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know yeah team jump Man jump and shout out
Jordan Jordan brand.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I love it, bro, Like like I said, I just
like I like to talk about.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just you know that mental health and wellness too, because
in this game, bro, we give so much to it.
Like you give and give and give and give and
realize you depleted without knowing that you depleted.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Like why am I edgy? Why am I irritable?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Why am I? You know?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
My body hurts, my mind hurts, and everything, like you know,
my family still wants to to cuddle and lay down.
You're like, bro, don't touch me. Why you know what
I'm saying? Like, or you know, all all I do
is is deal with football and then I'm out in public.
I'm dealing with fans. So you know you you don't
even really know your real self. So sometimes it's cool
to just decompress and figure out who you are. And
(26:50):
sometimes you need other people to help you with that,
you know, again just to bounce ideas off. So I
just I just love trying to break that stigma of
like we don't need to talk to people, you know
what I'm saying, Like, as human beings, we're social, people's
supposed to community, We're supposed to communicate. My wife, my
wife is definitely gonna use that against me on this episode.
She was like, so we're supposed to communicate.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Just not right. I'm like, I do just what you
want all my interfelings, come on, relax, take it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Easy, right, disclaimer right now. But uh all right, let's
let's get off that heavy and get into something like
you know, coming from coming from New Orleans, I want
to know what your what your favorite restaurant is out here?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
My favorite restaurant, bro? Yeah, I don't even think it's
a restaurant, bro.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What you mean?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean like, because you know, someplace to sell food,
but it's like should they be selling food?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Should they be selling food?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
But the food decent though, you know, Like so it's like,
you know, but nah, so they got a.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Store called a Red Rooster, and like I said, I
don't think it's.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
A like the like the hot sauce.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, okay, so but the catch is it's like Ronald
Cording from the Magnolian.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So you know, but they got the best hot sized
sandwich in the world.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Bro, But come in coming anywhere to to New Orleans
and everybody pushing hot sausage.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Didn't hit right from me. It didn't hit right for
me for a long time. They're like they're like, hey,
lead bod.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Bro, I love them. I love hot saage.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I think I love them too, bro, because I don't
eat them as much now since I've been back home,
right because like you can get them whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Right right.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But it's like, Bro, when I was living in Arizona.
In Kansas City, we had I couldn't wait to get out.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You know what I'm saying, Hey, you know of from Arizona.
So that's what I'm saying. That hot sausage was not
on no platelet. You can get Charriso.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You get your trees burrito up in that thing, five eggs.
You know, sometimes put fried squad. You know, Pico and
some chariso. You ain't getting no hot sausage?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
What no out here?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm like, like you a hot sausage? Why are you
always forcing this issue?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Feil no?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I would like turkey sausage please.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Right now, I need to know what other slang comes
from New Orleans. Bootkoo's really from back rouge, but like
it could be for New Orleans, like it could.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I feel like I was.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I feel like I was saying boot coo when I
was in the first grade, which is which is just
I think back on just moments like that.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And I'm like, like, is that really you.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Was using that word in the first grade? Just so
so young, too young to be so ignorant.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Just mean more, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Land?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, I ain't started using land up until I got
to New Orleans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
laniah definitely a New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
French word for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Or you know you have a birthday, like bro I
you know, I just turned eighteen. Everywhere else in the
world except New Orleans. Boys be out here, I just
made eighteen.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I just made eighteen. Just that, just made thirty one, just.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Made thirty eight, and I'm like, bro, why is that
an accomplishment to make thirty one? Like, okay, that's take
your blessings. I just made groceries. What you mean That's
probably the biggest transition when you come to New Orleans,
something like, yeah, I just made groceries.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
How you make groceries?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
A lot of your words are like in the rooms
spot you know, it shouldn't be that word.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Switching that join up.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So I'm like, g Night for show, gotta be the
different slang word like gin. I've heard you know, g
Phaso's forces, you know the ones whatever, But g Night's
New Orleans Bookoo, were gonna say New Orleans. You know
we're gonna we're gonna throw made.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I made eighteen. I made groceries. That's just don't don't
add up? Still add up out here.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And they got more. It's like a million of those words, Bro.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You got you get that New Orleans and them boys
started to start rattling off, and you be like, I
don't think I'm falling this conversation more. As we went
around way, we'd make we have make we had make
some food real quick, make some groceries. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
legit don't turn. I'll be like, bro, where did we
go with this? And how did we get here?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Who?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Who?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Who made y'all to speak like this?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
To be honest, Bro, I think it all goes back
to the gumbo saying. It's just like you just got
a bunch of different people, bro, from like a bunch
of different places, and you know, like they're all trying
to talk the same language, but they speak different languages.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
And these are the words we end up with.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Right, you know, Boo boo boo, the French creole something
a native American Spanish somewhere all the dip that into
a big bowl of gumbo.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Which is New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
All right, Well, anyway, Bro, I'm gonna get you out
of there. I was trying to keep it at thirty,
but I'm always going over that's my part. I A right, Hey,
I appreciate you tapping in, bro with with your boy
on off the edge like so, I love I love
having a podcast just to talk to my boys because
I always get like, you know, the producer sitting the
cheat sheet of you boy, You're like, no, I knew
he was a three time Pro Bowl and nah, I
knew all this.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He's super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But I get to I could to learn like things
I didn't know about, you know, like like I know
what your middle name is.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying, Like I can there, Ran,
I'm like, oh, divine, divine, the tyrant, divine, Matthew, the coldest.
I appreciate you tapping in.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Boy man, I appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So there you have it. It's a wrap.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I just want to say a huge thank you to
all my awesome listeners for rocking with me. I've got
a whole locker room full of my favorite interviews from
season one coming your way.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But before I go, you know the drill. Come on now.
Make sure to.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Drop us a five star rating or review and hit
that follow button on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio app or wherever
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
Till next time, I'm out.
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