March 26, 2024 • 20 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are back with a new episode of Move the Sticks. Throughout the show, Bucky Brooks gives a breakdown of his full first round 2024 NFL Mock Draft 3.0 (2:08). Find out which quarterbacks will go in the first round, which position group is the deepest and if there are any surprise players that will sneak into the first round.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky
with you. It is Bucky mock Draft Day.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We are going to go through Buck's latest mock Buck.
How you doing, man? Restless nights, no sleep? What we got?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look, a lot of time and energy and thought devoted
to these mock drafts because DJ, like you, I don't
like dealing with all the criticism and the fans. I
want to make sure that I give everybody exactly what
they want. It's look, it's your birthday. You should get
the birthday gift that you want. So I'm gonna try
and accommodate thirty two fan bases their favorite needs when
it comes to round one of this draft.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
That's great, man, I don't even I don't even care
anymore though about the feedback I've gotten over it. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I used to.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I used to, But you know what, in some weird way,
it helps me. I do read a good bit of it,
especially on the first mock draft, because on the first
mock draft, the local fansship. The local fans will let
you know, hey, you know what this player played better
at this position than you think he did. And I'll
be like, you know what, I haven't watched a ton
of this team this year, so maybe I'm holding on
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to an older, preconceived idea. Let me go watch a
little bit of that existing player, you know what. Okay,
that maybe that that tackle is a little bit better
than I thought he was coming out, and he played
okay last year. Maybe they don't go in that direction.
So the feedback does help a little bit. I don't
I don't pretend that it doesn't. But and then I
just kind of laugh at the mean stuff because going better,
what we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
What do we do? Yeah, now I get that. It's look,
it's a lot of fun. Let's let's go back and
remind everybody. So mock drafts are what we call educated guesses.
It's not necessarily how we view the players, but it's
how we think teams view the players, either based on
conversations or based on just kind of following some of
the break crumbs that we've kind of picked up along
the way during the prejeft process. So mock drafts are
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what we think teams think about these players.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You want to know what we really think.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Check out DJ's top fifty, check out my top fives.
That's my true assessment, our true assessments. How we value
these players, and how we ranked these players.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No doubt. All Right, with much anticipation here, let's get
this and cranked up. Not a lot of surprise here.
Let's start with the first pick, Chicago Bears. Get us
through the first five picks here, Buck, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Chicago Bears at number one, they look, they telegraphed it.
Kayla Williams comes off the board. He is the face
of the franchise in the Winnie City. We'll go to
the Washington Commanders at two. They'll take Jaydon Daniels from LSU.
At three, New England Patriots they take the quarterback of
the future and JJ McCarthy from Michigan Arizona comes off
the board. At four, we're taking Marvin Harrison Junior from
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Ohio State, and then the la Charges take Joe at
Offensive Taco from Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's the top five of this mock draft. Yeah, there
you go and Buck the New Trades. So we're looking
at that. I think the one that jumps out to
everybody as they're hearing this, JJ McCarthy as the as
the third pick and the third quarterback goes to the
New England Patriots. Hey, a Michigan quarterback to the Patriots?
What do you know, Bucky?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I mean. So, so here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So if you're the Craft and you're sitting here and
you're just thinking about just coming off of watching the Dynasty,
you're thinking, man, we had this great thing for twenty years.
We had a quarterback from Michigan who had great intangibles,
had a winning pedigree, had all of this stuff. Wasn't
necessarily built like the prototype was kind of skinny when
he came out, But man, he became the greatest quarterback
that our franchise and maybe the league has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, if you go and you listen to Jim Harbaugh
say that JJ McCarthy is.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
The greatest quarterback at the university that Tom Brady played at.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Why wouldn't you kick the tires on him?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
And I think when you kick the tires and investigate
JJ McCarthy thoroughly talk about a player that's what twenty
eight to one, twenty seven and one during his time, Yeah,
Michigan won a national title. He's a guy that is very,
very comfortable checking his ego at the door, because remember,
highly decorated recruit goes to Michigan knowing that he's going
to hand the ball way more than he's gonna throw it,
but he's willing to sacrifice that. I just think if
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you're retrun, you're trying to recreate the team friendly environment
in New England, he might be the right guy to
do it, and you have an opportunity to red shirt
him behind Jacoby Brissett. I think this might be the
right play for the New England Patriers as they reboot
their franchise.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I think it makes sense. I also think you
have a defensive head coach whill appreciate the the run
the ball, protect the football, a way of playing offense.
And I think that's something that JJ McCarthy's done. That's
something he's very comfortable with. All Right, let's get to
let's get to pick six through ten here.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Okay, six through ten, New York Giants taking the league
neighbors wide receiver from LSU Tennessee Titans, Olu Fashanu offensive
taco from Pennas State. The Atlanta Falcons take the first
defensive playoff the board. Dallas Turner Edge defended from Alabama,
Chicago Bears Rome Adunze wide receiver from Washington, and at
ten the mighty New York Jets take Brock Bowers tied
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in from Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yep. I think there's some interesting things in there. Roma
Dunza again, I think that makes sense for Chicago. I
know people can look on the defensive side of the ball.
To me, you want to do everything you can to
get KAYLEB Williams playing at a very high level, adding
Roma Donzey to Keenan Allen, DJ Moore. Hey, now we're
playing with some We're playing with fun weapons here as
well as a tight end position with Cole Comet, as
well as bringing over Gerald Everett. So I like that
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for them more offense why not? And then the one
that stands out to me the Jets Bowers, is that
a reaction buck to some of the things they able
to ge accomplished in free agency?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, look, man, I think it's a reaction to everyone
being on their win now mandate. If you're if you're
Roberts Slither, you're Joe Douglas, you know what it is.
You got to win right now? And I want to
go to Aaron Broders. I want to make them very
very comfortable. You add Mike Williams, you have Gary.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wilson, but you need to have someone that can control
the middle of the field. Brock Bawers would give them that.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And I know the last few years when we've seen
tight ends taken early in the draft, it hasn't worked out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
To me. This is different though. This is a very
experienced quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Who knows how to put those touches in the hands
of the right playmakers. Brock Bauers will get They would
get the return on the investment with brock Bowers early.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He commands the middle of the field.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I just like this pick, and I think they're willing
to gamble on the older offensive line holding up.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yep, and that's going to be it. That's going to
be the gamble that they take there. And hope that
some of the young guys that they've drafted over the
last couple of years who've been developing that if need be,
could step in and play some of their mid to
later round picks as well. So that'll be part of
that strategy. If this is the direction that they go,
all right, Buck, we're gonna take a quick break. We're
gonna get back. We're going to jump in here. We'll
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get through the rest of this mock draft again. It's
Bucky's Mock Draft three point zero. You can find that
on NFL dot com. That's where all the goodies is,
where Bucky explains each and every one of these picks.
So we'll be right back and we'll finish this bad
boy up. All right, Buck, let's get eleven through fifteen here,
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we have no trades again. So we've got the Minnesota
Vikings sticking and picking at eleven. It looks like a
quarterback sitting there for him.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It is sitting there, look, and I don't know if
they would be willing to get I know Kevin O'Connor
would be sitting there anxious, trying to get up to
make sure you got the quarterback that he wanted. But
the Minnesota Vikings take Drake May, quarterback from North Carolina
at eleven. Denver Broncos followed up with Jared verse As
defended from Florida State. Las Vegas Raiders take Talase Fuaga,
offensive tackle from Oregon State. The New Orleans Saints go
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with JC Latham, offensive taker from Alabama, and the Indianapolis
coach take Quinyon Mitchell cornerback from Toledo.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, let's start first of all here in Minnesota Drake May.
First of all, I know people will ask the question,
so why is Drake May there at eleven? And then
why does this make sense to fit here with the
Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Okay, so a couple of different things we know without trades,
if we just go through the thing, I'm saying, Yeah,
if you're to Minnesota Vikings, you may gamble and say, hey,
we want to move up and go get them, But
let's just say it plays out the way it is.
He's just naturally he's there. It makes sense one Josh McCown,
Kevin O'Connor. They love these kind of quarterbacks. You think
about high IQ, really good in tangibles, athleticism out du Wazu.
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Does he need some polishing and refining, absolutely, But you
have Sam Darneld in place where he doesn't necessarily have
to jump on the field right away. And because this
business is a relationship business, the fact that Josh McCown
knows him from his high school days, he knows the kid,
he knows how he's wired. I think that helps in
the developmental process. To me, this makes perfect sense for
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the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So stylistically, playstyle, maybe build ability situation in college. Is
there anybody that Drake May that you would compare to?
If you're going to gamble on the on the best
it can be? Is there anybody reminds you of?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He reminds me a lot of the conversation that we
used to have about Justin Herbert when Justin Herbert was
at Oregon, because remember, at Oregon, Justin Herbert wasn't the
one that we talked about in the pros. It was
a lot of him and in ho and soft shoeing
on what Justin Herbert was going to be. But when
you look at the build, you look at the athleticision,
you look at the athletic background that Justin Herbert had,
you can say the same thing about Drake May. To me,
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they're very similar in terms of attributes. If I'm Kevin
O'Connell and I am Josh McCown, I'm willing to gamble
on the flashes that Drake May's displayed. Going back to
his first season as a starter, he was terrific. He
was electric at North Carolina. He now he has some
pros that he was playing around the National Football League.
He's playing with pros, So I think, justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison,
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they elevate Drake May's game until he's able to elevate
the next generational playmaxs that would be around in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'll confess I was trying to lead the witness here.
Was there another one another quarterback that remind you? I
thought you would say Josh Allen. I thought, I mean,
it is potentially Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So look the thing about like Josh Allen, I don't
know if Drake is as rugged as Josh Allen is,
like in terms of the runner.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Now, I can see the talent in those things.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But then again, Josh Allen didn't really reveal those superhero powers.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Josh Allen was better that he was better the year
before when they had some better players than the talent
dropped off at Wyoming. His play kind of fell apart.
I was trying to remember who coached Josh Allen when
he came into the league. Oh yeah, the team with
the sixth pick, Brian Daball. I would just to me,
I would say, if Drake May is there with the
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sixth pick. I do not think he will be there
with the seventh pick. That's my that's the New York
You think the New York Giants take him, you think
they take take him. I think they would take him.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The only thing and I wrestled with that part of
the only reason why I wrestled. Ownership loves Daniel Jones
so much that they were willing to commit that money
to him. Are they ready to move off of him?
After look, two years ago he leads them to the player.
We can say whatever about the numbers, whatever, but after
that season they're willing to pay him forty million annally?
Will ownership be okay moving off of Daniel Jones? That
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was my hesitancy in giving him to the New York
Giants at they pick.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, no's that's a fair point. It's a fair point.
But we'll see how this all unfolds. And again buck
that new trades in these so this is just as
they fall, who's there, you stick and pick. That's what
we end up with. You ended up with Quenyon Mitchell
as the as a number one corner. I think I
did that in my last mock as well, just in
terms of him being the first corner to come off
the board, buck Ace to postseason. Nobody's done it better
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than Quenyon Mitchell has.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Nobody's done it. You got a chance to see him
live and in person at the Senior Bowl. If you
go through we talk about a series of checklists where
you want to just see him. Check off outstanding regular
season he did that, Senior Bowl terrific, combine performance was outstanding.
Has the prototypical measurements and dimensions fast as all get out,
long rangy and the one thing we know about Chris
Ballad he loves the prototypes. He loves the athletic freaks.
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He wants to bring them in and just have a
collection freeze so they can develop. He goes to the
end coach because I think, look, Chris Ballat falls in
love with him after not being able to get le
Jerry Snead on a trade Quenya and Mitchell becomes a
nice consolation prize for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So I was talking to one of my buddies, a
personnel executive, the other day, and I said, this is
a fun this is a fun assignment for your scouts.
Would be asked all the scouts for the players in
your area, that had straight a's and the way I
explained that as straight A's fall tape, All Star Game, Combine, Interview,
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Pro Day, who got a's in all those areas. Who
are the straight A players?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They might not be, they might not be a pick.
It might be somebody who's a third round interior alignment.
But man, he played really good. He was solid at
the All Star Game. He was the same guy when
we watched him work out at the Combine. He had
a great interview and did what he needed to do
in an individual workout or a pro day like those
guys that have the the just the consistent line there, Buck,
I think you can hit rate goes way up.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I mean just and that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean, look, part of the process is really just
eliminating all the stuff. And when you go and you
eliminate all the I mean, he is as solid as
they come as a prospect. I mean, and you get
over the Toledo thing. He dominated Matt competition. We had
a chance to see him play against whatever was supposed
to be the best of the best at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Didn't bet an eye at it Roses.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Look, his level of play really went up a notch
and then you see him at the combine. Why wouldn't
you fall in love with this kind of prospect, this
kind of player I know people love and a door
at Sauce Gardner. I see similar traits in Quinna and
Mitchell in terms of a guy that kind of comes
out of nowhere to be the number one corner on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The boardin no doubt. All right, let's whip through here
the rest of this mock draft. We are at pick
number sixteen, Bucks, so take us sixteen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Seattle Seahawks take Troy Fatanu offensive guard tackle from Washington
reunis with his offensive coordinator. Jacksonville Jaguars take Terry and
Arnold cornerback from Atlanta to versatility is a selling point.
Cincinnati Bengals Brian Thomas junior wie received from LSU. The
Los Angeles Rams Byron Murphy defensive tackle from Texas. The
Pittsburgh Steelers take Amarus Minim's offensive tackle from Georgia.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, the fun one for me there Byron Murphy obviously
Aaron Donald. He retires. They hit a home run last
year with Kobe Turner and the job that he did
as an interior rusher man. You'd have two dynamic, quick
dudes in there with him and Murphy teaming up.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, you just think about it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
In the way they played at three four, there's another
spot where you can have Murphy and the sensation of
rookie playing together. I love that, and I love the
possibility that the Rams could go that route.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
All right, let's get twenty one through twenty five. A
couple of these guys I want to ask you about.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Go ahead, Miami Dolphins Jackson Powers Johnson center guard from Oregon,
Philippi Eagles, kool Aid McKinstry corner from Alabama. Minnesota Vikings
take Cooper Dejen dB from Iowa. Dallas Cowboys, Graham Barton,
offensive lineman from Duke, and the Green Bay Pack is
at twenty five. Peyton Wilson, linebacker from n C State.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
There you go, all right. Kool Aid McKinstry ran in
the with a foot injury. I should add ran in
the high four fours. I think four four to seven
was a time that came through from his pro day.
He's been someone that's been camped out kind of in
this area of these mock drafts. Maybe a little bit lower.
This is probably one of the higher spots that I've
seen him go. But give me the fit, the reasoning.
They're kool aid to Philly.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, so here here's my reason.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
My restionale is Vic Fangio has so much success with
passer ten early in his career that I think he
goes back to the will he fishes in the same pond.
Coolis McKinstry being a guy high IQ has been tasked
with playing a bunch of different techniques, a bunch of
different responsibilities throughout his time. I just think it's the
right fit as not necessarily about getting maybe the splashy
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player that picked. I think Vic Fangio might be comfortable
with kool Ai McKinstry, what he's able to do, and
the fact that he's pretty solid when it comes to tackling,
being physical on the perimeter.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
There you go. Peyton Wilson, we had this conversation. I
actually tweet this out the other day as well, which
was if he's clean, if he passed physicals. I know
he's a little bit older, but just as a player
on the tape that you see buck, I thought Peyton
Wilson is a first round pick just as a player,
and we had this conversation the other day. We're saying, yeah,
but I mean, we're not doctors. So if you're if
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we assume at least a few of these thirty two
teams are going to be okay with his injury history,
then maybe that shouldn't be a shock if he found
his way in here.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
DJ.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I just think, like if we just based the evaluation
off the tape, there's no way that you can deny
Peyton Wilson being a first round pick. It is red
as you see linebackers do what he's been able to
do throughout his career. He's a tackling machine. He has
significant sack production. He's always a round the ball, as
evidenced by his forced pombos and fumble recoveries. He picks
off passes in coverage. He plays with a high motor.
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He has a little nastiness and a little that crazy
guy that you like from your defensive leader.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
As a wrestler.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I mean you put him in the middle of
that defense surrounded by other first round players. I mean
I think he goes and gets it and gets it
at a high level. I just think the Green Bay
Packers will fall in love with Peyton Wilson throughout this process.
I could see him replacing Devandre Campbell as an inside linebreaker,
as they didn't sign to resign the veteran, as they.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Let the veteran go.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, there you go. Peyton Wilson makes his way
into the first round. Take us home, here Bock, Take
us twenty six through thirty two.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Here go Tampa Bay Buckingers.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Layatu Latu edge defended from UCLA goes to the temp Bucks,
Arizona Cardinals, Darius Robinson edge defendant from Missouri. The Buffalo
Bills take Johnny Newton, defensive tackle from Illinois. Detroit Lions
Chop Robinson, edge defendant from Penn State. The Baltimore Ravens.
Tyler Goyden falls to them offensive tackle from Oklahoma. San
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Francisco forty nine ers, Nate Wiggins corn back from Clemson,
and the Kansas City Chiefs Kamaray Lassiter, cornerback from Georgia.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, I want to ask you about the very
last guy here, because this is an interesting one with
Kamari Lassiter where I loved his tape and I had
him I think in one of the early mocks and
maybe even maybe even the first two. I had him
going in the first round. Now Buck he gets to uh,
he gets a chance to run at his pro day
and he ended up running like I think four six
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lad or four six two somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It was.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
He did not get under four to six. How you
know is it? Is it a situation now with the
GPS stuff that you can find the numbers you need
to be able to still keep him in that area.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Look, DJ, I think you hit me to the game
on that. How teams are relying less on the forty
time and more on the GPS stuff because you can
get all this stuff from Catapult and a Zebra technology.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You can get all the stuff that you need end game.
Can you do it?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The other thing that I've referenced, like I've I've been
told about people around the Chiefs that this de the
se Spagnulo institutes is one that requires a lot of
i IQ guys that are there. And when you think
about what Kirby Smart asked his dbs to do and
how they have to bounce around and play multiple positions,
and how they have to see it and do it,
I know people get the misnomer that this is a
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man demand team, but they do a lot of little
subtle tricks in games in the back end. To me,
I think Kamari Last and it really fits what it
fits the profile. And so even though they move on
from le Jerry Snead, I think they get another young
guy to throw in the mix. And I don't know
if you can argue there's been a better team developing
young dbs getting them to play early.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Did the cant see the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think they gamble on what they've seen on tape
from Kamary Last as opposed to what to stop watchman reveal.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, McDuffie can play anywhere. You know McDuffie, I think that.
I think even you know Snead is the player he
was and the money he just got. I think McDuffie
was the best player in their secondary. So naturally you
have you have. I think if you take last year,
he probably going to see the majority of his work
inside and that would allow McDuffie to play more outside.
But again, mcduffy can play anywhere on you wanted to play.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They just have a really good second here man.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They have so many young guys and the thing about
their second that they've done it in the last two
to three year they've been able to take all these guys,
but the common and nominated when you talk to them,
guys like high football intelligence and great workers, and I
just think lastly it will fit in.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, well, there you go. This was a this is
a quicker episode today, but we wanted to make sure
we got this one in. I'm taking off to head
to the Big twelve Combine, which we will have on
NFL Network on Thursday. Buck, you're going to be covering
the LSU Pro Day that is on Wednesday, as well
as the eur alma Mater North Carolina Drake May that
is going to be on Thursday as well. So we've
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got lots of stuff coming your way here from these
big combines, these big quarterback pro days as well as
the Big twelve Combine, so be on the lookout for that.
We want to make sure we got Bucky's latest mock
draft in here before all that took place. All right,
We've got one more episode which we will recap these
pro days that will be coming up. We'll lift some
of the best sound from the broadcast, uh to fill
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you in on what happened there. So be on the
lookout for that a little bit later this week. Until then,
we appreciate you and we'll see you next time. Right here,
I move the stacks
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky
with you. It is Bucky mock Draft Day.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We are going to go through Buck's latest mock Buck.
How you doing, man? Restless nights, no sleep? What we got?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look, a lot of time and energy and thought devoted
to these mock drafts because DJ, like you, I don't
like dealing with all the criticism and the fans. I
want to make sure that I give everybody exactly what
they want. It's look, it's your birthday. You should get
the birthday gift that you want. So I'm gonna try
and accommodate thirty two fan bases their favorite needs when
it comes to round one of this draft.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
That's great, man, I don't even I don't even care
anymore though about the feedback I've gotten over it. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I used to.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I used to, But you know what, in some weird way,
it helps me. I do read a good bit of it,
especially on the first mock draft, because on the first
mock draft, the local fansship. The local fans will let
you know, hey, you know what this player played better
at this position than you think he did. And I'll
be like, you know what, I haven't watched a ton
of this team this year, so maybe I'm holding on
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to an older, preconceived idea. Let me go watch a
little bit of that existing player, you know what. Okay,
that maybe that that tackle is a little bit better
than I thought he was coming out, and he played
okay last year. Maybe they don't go in that direction.
So the feedback does help a little bit. I don't
I don't pretend that it doesn't. But and then I
just kind of laugh at the mean stuff because going better,
what we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
What do we do? Yeah, now I get that. It's look,
it's a lot of fun. Let's let's go back and
remind everybody. So mock drafts are what we call educated guesses.
It's not necessarily how we view the players, but it's
how we think teams view the players, either based on
conversations or based on just kind of following some of
the break crumbs that we've kind of picked up along
the way during the prejeft process. So mock drafts are
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what we think teams think about these players.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You want to know what we really think.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Check out DJ's top fifty, check out my top fives.
That's my true assessment, our true assessments. How we value
these players, and how we ranked these players.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No doubt. All Right, with much anticipation here, let's get
this and cranked up. Not a lot of surprise here.
Let's start with the first pick, Chicago Bears. Get us
through the first five picks here, Buck, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Chicago Bears at number one, they look, they telegraphed it.
Kayla Williams comes off the board. He is the face
of the franchise in the Winnie City. We'll go to
the Washington Commanders at two. They'll take Jaydon Daniels from LSU.
At three, New England Patriots they take the quarterback of
the future and JJ McCarthy from Michigan Arizona comes off
the board. At four, we're taking Marvin Harrison Junior from
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Ohio State, and then the la Charges take Joe at
Offensive Taco from Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's the top five of this mock draft. Yeah, there
you go and Buck the New Trades. So we're looking
at that. I think the one that jumps out to
everybody as they're hearing this, JJ McCarthy as the as
the third pick and the third quarterback goes to the
New England Patriots. Hey, a Michigan quarterback to the Patriots?
What do you know, Bucky?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I mean. So, so here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So if you're the Craft and you're sitting here and
you're just thinking about just coming off of watching the Dynasty,
you're thinking, man, we had this great thing for twenty years.
We had a quarterback from Michigan who had great intangibles,
had a winning pedigree, had all of this stuff. Wasn't
necessarily built like the prototype was kind of skinny when
he came out, But man, he became the greatest quarterback
that our franchise and maybe the league has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, if you go and you listen to Jim Harbaugh
say that JJ McCarthy is.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
The greatest quarterback at the university that Tom Brady played at.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Why wouldn't you kick the tires on him?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
And I think when you kick the tires and investigate
JJ McCarthy thoroughly talk about a player that's what twenty
eight to one, twenty seven and one during his time, Yeah,
Michigan won a national title. He's a guy that is very,
very comfortable checking his ego at the door, because remember,
highly decorated recruit goes to Michigan knowing that he's going
to hand the ball way more than he's gonna throw it,
but he's willing to sacrifice that. I just think if
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you're retrun, you're trying to recreate the team friendly environment
in New England, he might be the right guy to
do it, and you have an opportunity to red shirt
him behind Jacoby Brissett. I think this might be the
right play for the New England Patriers as they reboot
their franchise.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, I think it makes sense. I also think you
have a defensive head coach whill appreciate the the run
the ball, protect the football, a way of playing offense.
And I think that's something that JJ McCarthy's done. That's
something he's very comfortable with. All Right, let's get to
let's get to pick six through ten here.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Okay, six through ten, New York Giants taking the league
neighbors wide receiver from LSU Tennessee Titans, Olu Fashanu offensive
taco from Pennas State. The Atlanta Falcons take the first
defensive playoff the board. Dallas Turner Edge defended from Alabama,
Chicago Bears Rome Adunze wide receiver from Washington, and at
ten the mighty New York Jets take Brock Bowers tied
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in from Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yep. I think there's some interesting things in there. Roma
Dunza again, I think that makes sense for Chicago. I
know people can look on the defensive side of the ball.
To me, you want to do everything you can to
get KAYLEB Williams playing at a very high level, adding
Roma Donzey to Keenan Allen, DJ Moore. Hey, now we're
playing with some We're playing with fun weapons here as
well as a tight end position with Cole Comet, as
well as bringing over Gerald Everett. So I like that
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for them more offense why not? And then the one
that stands out to me the Jets Bowers, is that
a reaction buck to some of the things they able
to ge accomplished in free agency?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, look, man, I think it's a reaction to everyone
being on their win now mandate. If you're if you're
Roberts Slither, you're Joe Douglas, you know what it is.
You got to win right now? And I want to
go to Aaron Broders. I want to make them very
very comfortable. You add Mike Williams, you have Gary.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wilson, but you need to have someone that can control
the middle of the field. Brock Bawers would give them that.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And I know the last few years when we've seen
tight ends taken early in the draft, it hasn't worked out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
To me. This is different though. This is a very
experienced quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Who knows how to put those touches in the hands
of the right playmakers. Brock Bauers will get They would
get the return on the investment with brock Bowers early.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He commands the middle of the field.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I just like this pick, and I think they're willing
to gamble on the older offensive line holding up.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yep, and that's going to be it. That's going to
be the gamble that they take there. And hope that
some of the young guys that they've drafted over the
last couple of years who've been developing that if need be,
could step in and play some of their mid to
later round picks as well. So that'll be part of
that strategy. If this is the direction that they go,
all right, Buck, we're gonna take a quick break. We're
gonna get back. We're going to jump in here. We'll
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get through the rest of this mock draft again. It's
Bucky's Mock Draft three point zero. You can find that
on NFL dot com. That's where all the goodies is,
where Bucky explains each and every one of these picks.
So we'll be right back and we'll finish this bad
boy up. All right, Buck, let's get eleven through fifteen here,
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we have no trades again. So we've got the Minnesota
Vikings sticking and picking at eleven. It looks like a
quarterback sitting there for him.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It is sitting there, look, and I don't know if
they would be willing to get I know Kevin O'Connor
would be sitting there anxious, trying to get up to
make sure you got the quarterback that he wanted. But
the Minnesota Vikings take Drake May, quarterback from North Carolina
at eleven. Denver Broncos followed up with Jared verse As
defended from Florida State. Las Vegas Raiders take Talase Fuaga,
offensive tackle from Oregon State. The New Orleans Saints go
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with JC Latham, offensive taker from Alabama, and the Indianapolis
coach take Quinyon Mitchell cornerback from Toledo.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, let's start first of all here in Minnesota Drake May.
First of all, I know people will ask the question,
so why is Drake May there at eleven? And then
why does this make sense to fit here with the
Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Okay, so a couple of different things we know without trades,
if we just go through the thing, I'm saying, Yeah,
if you're to Minnesota Vikings, you may gamble and say, hey,
we want to move up and go get them, But
let's just say it plays out the way it is.
He's just naturally he's there. It makes sense one Josh McCown,
Kevin O'Connor. They love these kind of quarterbacks. You think
about high IQ, really good in tangibles, athleticism out du Wazu.
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Does he need some polishing and refining, absolutely, But you
have Sam Darneld in place where he doesn't necessarily have
to jump on the field right away. And because this
business is a relationship business, the fact that Josh McCown
knows him from his high school days, he knows the kid,
he knows how he's wired. I think that helps in
the developmental process. To me, this makes perfect sense for
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the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So stylistically, playstyle, maybe build ability situation in college. Is
there anybody that Drake May that you would compare to?
If you're going to gamble on the on the best
it can be? Is there anybody reminds you of?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He reminds me a lot of the conversation that we
used to have about Justin Herbert when Justin Herbert was
at Oregon, because remember, at Oregon, Justin Herbert wasn't the
one that we talked about in the pros. It was
a lot of him and in ho and soft shoeing
on what Justin Herbert was going to be. But when
you look at the build, you look at the athleticision,
you look at the athletic background that Justin Herbert had,
you can say the same thing about Drake May. To me,
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they're very similar in terms of attributes. If I'm Kevin
O'Connell and I am Josh McCown, I'm willing to gamble
on the flashes that Drake May's displayed. Going back to
his first season as a starter, he was terrific. He
was electric at North Carolina. He now he has some
pros that he was playing around the National Football League.
He's playing with pros, So I think, justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison,
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they elevate Drake May's game until he's able to elevate
the next generational playmaxs that would be around in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'll confess I was trying to lead the witness here.
Was there another one another quarterback that remind you? I
thought you would say Josh Allen. I thought, I mean,
it is potentially Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So look the thing about like Josh Allen, I don't
know if Drake is as rugged as Josh Allen is,
like in terms of the runner.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Now, I can see the talent in those things.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But then again, Josh Allen didn't really reveal those superhero powers.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Josh Allen was better that he was better the year
before when they had some better players than the talent
dropped off at Wyoming. His play kind of fell apart.
I was trying to remember who coached Josh Allen when
he came into the league. Oh yeah, the team with
the sixth pick, Brian Daball. I would just to me,
I would say, if Drake May is there with the
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sixth pick. I do not think he will be there
with the seventh pick. That's my that's the New York
You think the New York Giants take him, you think
they take take him. I think they would take him.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The only thing and I wrestled with that part of
the only reason why I wrestled. Ownership loves Daniel Jones
so much that they were willing to commit that money
to him. Are they ready to move off of him?
After look, two years ago he leads them to the player.
We can say whatever about the numbers, whatever, but after
that season they're willing to pay him forty million annally?
Will ownership be okay moving off of Daniel Jones? That
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was my hesitancy in giving him to the New York
Giants at they pick.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, no's that's a fair point. It's a fair point.
But we'll see how this all unfolds. And again buck
that new trades in these so this is just as
they fall, who's there, you stick and pick. That's what
we end up with. You ended up with Quenyon Mitchell
as the as a number one corner. I think I
did that in my last mock as well, just in
terms of him being the first corner to come off
the board, buck Ace to postseason. Nobody's done it better
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than Quenyon Mitchell has.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Nobody's done it. You got a chance to see him
live and in person at the Senior Bowl. If you
go through we talk about a series of checklists where
you want to just see him. Check off outstanding regular
season he did that, Senior Bowl terrific, combine performance was outstanding.
Has the prototypical measurements and dimensions fast as all get out,
long rangy and the one thing we know about Chris
Ballad he loves the prototypes. He loves the athletic freaks.
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He wants to bring them in and just have a
collection freeze so they can develop. He goes to the
end coach because I think, look, Chris Ballat falls in
love with him after not being able to get le
Jerry Snead on a trade Quenya and Mitchell becomes a
nice consolation prize for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So I was talking to one of my buddies, a
personnel executive, the other day, and I said, this is
a fun this is a fun assignment for your scouts.
Would be asked all the scouts for the players in
your area, that had straight a's and the way I
explained that as straight A's fall tape, All Star Game, Combine, Interview,
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Pro Day, who got a's in all those areas. Who
are the straight A players?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They might not be, they might not be a pick.
It might be somebody who's a third round interior alignment.
But man, he played really good. He was solid at
the All Star Game. He was the same guy when
we watched him work out at the Combine. He had
a great interview and did what he needed to do
in an individual workout or a pro day like those
guys that have the the just the consistent line there, Buck,
I think you can hit rate goes way up.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I mean just and that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean, look, part of the process is really just
eliminating all the stuff. And when you go and you
eliminate all the I mean, he is as solid as
they come as a prospect. I mean, and you get
over the Toledo thing. He dominated Matt competition. We had
a chance to see him play against whatever was supposed
to be the best of the best at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Didn't bet an eye at it Roses.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Look, his level of play really went up a notch
and then you see him at the combine. Why wouldn't
you fall in love with this kind of prospect, this
kind of player I know people love and a door
at Sauce Gardner. I see similar traits in Quinna and
Mitchell in terms of a guy that kind of comes
out of nowhere to be the number one corner on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The boardin no doubt. All right, let's whip through here
the rest of this mock draft. We are at pick
number sixteen, Bucks, so take us sixteen to twenty.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Seattle Seahawks take Troy Fatanu offensive guard tackle from Washington
reunis with his offensive coordinator. Jacksonville Jaguars take Terry and
Arnold cornerback from Atlanta to versatility is a selling point.
Cincinnati Bengals Brian Thomas junior wie received from LSU. The
Los Angeles Rams Byron Murphy defensive tackle from Texas. The
Pittsburgh Steelers take Amarus Minim's offensive tackle from Georgia.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, the fun one for me there Byron Murphy obviously
Aaron Donald. He retires. They hit a home run last
year with Kobe Turner and the job that he did
as an interior rusher man. You'd have two dynamic, quick
dudes in there with him and Murphy teaming up.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, you just think about it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
In the way they played at three four, there's another
spot where you can have Murphy and the sensation of
rookie playing together. I love that, and I love the
possibility that the Rams could go that route.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
All right, let's get twenty one through twenty five. A
couple of these guys I want to ask you about.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Go ahead, Miami Dolphins Jackson Powers Johnson center guard from Oregon,
Philippi Eagles, kool Aid McKinstry corner from Alabama. Minnesota Vikings
take Cooper Dejen dB from Iowa. Dallas Cowboys, Graham Barton,
offensive lineman from Duke, and the Green Bay Pack is
at twenty five. Peyton Wilson, linebacker from n C State.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
There you go, all right. Kool Aid McKinstry ran in
the with a foot injury. I should add ran in
the high four fours. I think four four to seven
was a time that came through from his pro day.
He's been someone that's been camped out kind of in
this area of these mock drafts. Maybe a little bit lower.
This is probably one of the higher spots that I've
seen him go. But give me the fit, the reasoning.
They're kool aid to Philly.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Okay, so here here's my reason.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
My restionale is Vic Fangio has so much success with
passer ten early in his career that I think he
goes back to the will he fishes in the same pond.
Coolis McKinstry being a guy high IQ has been tasked
with playing a bunch of different techniques, a bunch of
different responsibilities throughout his time. I just think it's the
right fit as not necessarily about getting maybe the splashy
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player that picked. I think Vic Fangio might be comfortable
with kool Ai McKinstry, what he's able to do, and
the fact that he's pretty solid when it comes to tackling,
being physical on the perimeter.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
There you go. Peyton Wilson, we had this conversation. I
actually tweet this out the other day as well, which
was if he's clean, if he passed physicals. I know
he's a little bit older, but just as a player
on the tape that you see buck, I thought Peyton
Wilson is a first round pick just as a player,
and we had this conversation the other day. We're saying, yeah,
but I mean, we're not doctors. So if you're if
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we assume at least a few of these thirty two
teams are going to be okay with his injury history,
then maybe that shouldn't be a shock if he found
his way in here.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
DJ.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I just think, like if we just based the evaluation
off the tape, there's no way that you can deny
Peyton Wilson being a first round pick. It is red
as you see linebackers do what he's been able to
do throughout his career. He's a tackling machine. He has
significant sack production. He's always a round the ball, as
evidenced by his forced pombos and fumble recoveries. He picks
off passes in coverage. He plays with a high motor.
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He has a little nastiness and a little that crazy
guy that you like from your defensive leader.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
As a wrestler.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I mean you put him in the middle of
that defense surrounded by other first round players. I mean
I think he goes and gets it and gets it
at a high level. I just think the Green Bay
Packers will fall in love with Peyton Wilson throughout this process.
I could see him replacing Devandre Campbell as an inside linebreaker,
as they didn't sign to resign the veteran, as they.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Let the veteran go.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, there you go. Peyton Wilson makes his way
into the first round. Take us home, here Bock, Take
us twenty six through thirty two.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Here go Tampa Bay Buckingers.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Layatu Latu edge defended from UCLA goes to the temp Bucks,
Arizona Cardinals, Darius Robinson edge defendant from Missouri. The Buffalo
Bills take Johnny Newton, defensive tackle from Illinois. Detroit Lions
Chop Robinson, edge defendant from Penn State. The Baltimore Ravens.
Tyler Goyden falls to them offensive tackle from Oklahoma. San
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Francisco forty nine ers, Nate Wiggins corn back from Clemson,
and the Kansas City Chiefs Kamaray Lassiter, cornerback from Georgia.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, I want to ask you about the very
last guy here, because this is an interesting one with
Kamari Lassiter where I loved his tape and I had
him I think in one of the early mocks and
maybe even maybe even the first two. I had him
going in the first round. Now Buck he gets to uh,
he gets a chance to run at his pro day
and he ended up running like I think four six
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lad or four six two somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It was.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
He did not get under four to six. How you
know is it? Is it a situation now with the
GPS stuff that you can find the numbers you need
to be able to still keep him in that area.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Look, DJ, I think you hit me to the game
on that. How teams are relying less on the forty
time and more on the GPS stuff because you can
get all this stuff from Catapult and a Zebra technology.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You can get all the stuff that you need end game.
Can you do it?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The other thing that I've referenced, like I've I've been
told about people around the Chiefs that this de the
se Spagnulo institutes is one that requires a lot of
i IQ guys that are there. And when you think
about what Kirby Smart asked his dbs to do and
how they have to bounce around and play multiple positions,
and how they have to see it and do it,
I know people get the misnomer that this is a
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man demand team, but they do a lot of little
subtle tricks in games in the back end. To me,
I think Kamari Last and it really fits what it
fits the profile. And so even though they move on
from le Jerry Snead, I think they get another young
guy to throw in the mix. And I don't know
if you can argue there's been a better team developing
young dbs getting them to play early.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Did the cant see the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think they gamble on what they've seen on tape
from Kamary Last as opposed to what to stop watchman reveal.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, McDuffie can play anywhere. You know McDuffie, I think that.
I think even you know Snead is the player he
was and the money he just got. I think McDuffie
was the best player in their secondary. So naturally you
have you have. I think if you take last year,
he probably going to see the majority of his work
inside and that would allow McDuffie to play more outside.
But again, mcduffy can play anywhere on you wanted to play.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They just have a really good second here man.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They have so many young guys and the thing about
their second that they've done it in the last two
to three year they've been able to take all these guys,
but the common and nominated when you talk to them,
guys like high football intelligence and great workers, and I
just think lastly it will fit in.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, well, there you go. This was a this is
a quicker episode today, but we wanted to make sure
we got this one in. I'm taking off to head
to the Big twelve Combine, which we will have on
NFL Network on Thursday. Buck, you're going to be covering
the LSU Pro Day that is on Wednesday, as well
as the eur alma Mater North Carolina Drake May that
is going to be on Thursday as well. So we've
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got lots of stuff coming your way here from these
big combines, these big quarterback pro days as well as
the Big twelve Combine, so be on the lookout for that.
We want to make sure we got Bucky's latest mock
draft in here before all that took place. All right,
We've got one more episode which we will recap these
pro days that will be coming up. We'll lift some
of the best sound from the broadcast, uh to fill
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you in on what happened there. So be on the
lookout for that a little bit later this week. Until then,
we appreciate you and we'll see you next time. Right here,
I move the stacks
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