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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A twenty six year old man.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He went to Reddit to ask if he was the
bad guy after his fiance found out that the engagement
ring that he gave her, Speaking of engagements, see there
is that. There's a method to my man as there
really is. We got there and this story is not
about Benjamin by the way. It could be, but it's not,
I don't think so. His fiance found out that the
diamond he gave her was not real. It was Moysonite,
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a moistnite diamond. So he explained that he recently graduated
and couldn't afford a real diamond, so he chose, I
guess a lookalike jem that's way more affordable but shines bright.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So he didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I guess he was going to get around to telling
her that he essentially bought her a fake diamond, but
he just kind of never got around to him. All
the excitement about the ring and about being engaged in
whatever else, Well, here comes the drama. While shopping for
wedding bands, the jeweler revealed the ring's true identity and
his fiance was not impressed, stormed out, ditched the ring,
locked herself in the bedroom, and he's been sleeping on
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the couch ever since. He says he didn't mean to
deceive her. He wanted to make her feel special. But
now he's wondering if the truth delay cost him more
than a comfy bed. I'd be wondering if I'm marrying
the right person. Right, you're worried about if she's mad
at you. I'd be worried if I marry the right person.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's pretty dramatic now.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It would be one thing if he proposed to her,
gave her this huge ring and then said it, told
her this is one hundred percent real, like I spent
thousands and millions of dollars on it. I spent tens
of thousands of dollars on this thing. He used to
be so grateful to me for this. That would be
one thing. But I don't think he did that. I
think he gave her the ring and he didn't tell
her that it wasn't real, and she was so excited
about it, Like why would you sort of shoot yourself
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in the foot like that, like immediately like here here
is this gesture, we're getting engaged in, this beautiful ring, by.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The way, fake. I don't think anybody would do that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean not right then again, I mean, he didn't
lie and say it was real, He just didn't tell
her that it wasn't. And what difference does it make
he proposed to her. It's a symbol, right, So what
would you guys do in this situation if roles were reversed?
Because obviously you guys, many of you are the ones
receiving the rings hopefully well not you, Kiki, But no,
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you're not wrong. Yeah, I mean would you okay? Would
you truly be okay with a fake ring from Big
Tim over no ring? No?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
No, no?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
At this point, absolutely, my ring must be real because
I've waited this long.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And part of his reasoning is money, right.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It has to be real. It has to be what
I like at this point.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now, if we were just if we were being Ham
and his girlfriend and you know, young whatever, sure, whatever
you give me, I'm happy. We'll we'll upgrade later. But
now it's too far in the game. But however, if
I was in this situation, I would be question if
I want to marry you after you reacted like that
over a Moy's not ring.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
They're still there's still a ring, yeah, Phill Diamond. Well,
and the thing is like in Big Tim's case. If
in fact he's been telling you all this time, for seven,
eight years ever long it's bepent that he's waiting to
save up to get you there, then he can't give
you a fake ring after all that. Absolutely not, he can't.
He has to give you a very nice ring. If
he's been saving for all this time and that's the
only reason that he hasn't proposed to you, then the
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ring better be legit.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
But if you're young and you don't have a lot
of money and it's starting out in life, and you're
really in love and intent on getting married, and that's
what you could afford, and that's what you give the person,
then so long as you don't lie about it, so authenticity,
I guess I don't see the problem, right.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, No, I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I am somebody who actually is married for two years
now technically I.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
She's actually married, not the fraudulent marriage we thought all
the time. I was like, I know, no one really
believes it, but you're telling me it's real.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Okay, yeah, okay, I pretty much ctificate around all the time.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I mean I was there right right, you got your
diploma and then your marriage certificate I carry about.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I was present for the fake wedding. I thought
it was weird that you had your college diploma in
your hand when you got married.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But you know you're proud.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Of well, I got things approved of you all the time,
so whip them both out. But I honestly feel that
And this could just be me speaking now that I'm
on the other side of this, but like.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
A lot of the stuff doesn't matter, and.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I promise you it doesn't. Like I don't people do
the whole you know, big ring. You know, we're in
tons of debt thing, they do the big wedding. We're
in tons of debt, We're in tons of debt.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
They do a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
And now that I'm on the other side of it,
and I look at it and I'm like, very happy
that I didn't do a Yahoo wedding because I wanted
a Yahoo house, like when I like, yeah, who backyard,
So I knew like where my priorities stood. And I
think a lot of people forget that when it comes
to marriage, Like, yes, the ring and the wedding and
all that, it should be special and beautiful, and I agree,
and it should be what you want I'm not shaming
you for wanting what you want, but when you look
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at the other side of things, like, honey, this economy
and the way that things are with housing, and just
the bigger picture of marriage, because when you get married,
you're gonna combine your life together, so like are we
going to upgrade our home? Our cars are we're gonna
have children? Like these things to me are more important
and cost a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's Polina sounds like this.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
This woman would rather this twenty six year old man
go into debt, yes on a who can't afford for
something that looks the same as what she wound up receiving.
Now again, if he said to her, oh, you should
be so grateful to me because this is so real
and so expensive, Well, that's a lie. That's awful, you know,
that would if you're passing it off it's something that
it's not. But it's the symbol, right, And I know
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it's easy for me to say because I don't think
I could probably I probably couldn't get away with that,
you know, giving somebody a fake ring. But I also
I've also said, for as long as you've done this
show that I don't think anybody should be spending money
on a ring that they don't have, because to your point,
it's like, why am I spending Why am I going
to go into debt and pay interest on a ring
that I can't afford? So that to keep up with
the Jones, That's what it is, so that you can
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brag to your friends about how basically how broke I am,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And then and then and it's going to hold us.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
If it's going to hold us back from paying bills
or upgrading our home or having a home or whatever,
well then that it defeats the purpose, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I feel like these things, like, again, they don't matter
as much as we think they are.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean, you're entitled to want what you want.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I'm not trying to take them away from anybody, but
I'm telling you, like, these things are expensive and it's
not worth it to post on Instagram so that my
little friend from high school that I don't even talk
to anymore can see my ring. I see this happen
in real life all the time, and I'm like, this
is goofy my hot take.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Jason Mikel Mchanna proposes with a moist and nite ring.
Would you accept it is? What?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is it actually a diamond?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay, it's like chemically a diamond, but it's not like
it's not a natural diamond.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I don't care.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Would take an onion ring, get a ring? I don't,
I don't care. I would not care. And imagine how
stupid you look, because now that he's broke, you're gonna
have to go ask somebody for money to pay for
your mortgage. But you know you out here begging for money,
but you got this big a ring on your.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Fingers that happens every day, every day.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, that's crazy, Louren asked. The question, is witholding lying?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think so sometimes.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, he knew what he was doing. He definitely
knew what he was Easy.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You give someone a ring that looks like a traditional
diamond ring, you you're clearly passing it off for tradition.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You're passing it off for being real.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Because if you hand me an engagement ring that looks
like every other engagement ring that looks like a diamond,
I guess I'm assuming it's a diamond, But I guess
I also don't know why it matters.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I feel like it only matters to people who don't
have one, Like people with the rings don't never think
about like, you know, I want to.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's a ring real like who cares well.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And the other thing is like many many years ago,
before lab grown diamonds were a thing, it did if
you had a huge monster diamond, it did mean someone
spent a ton of money. Now it doesn't necessarily mean
that anymore. Like a big honker diamond that's lab grown
in is a quarter of the price of you know
what I mean, So like like you can go get
you a j Lo ring, you know it looks like
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that for a quarter of the price, which still is expensive.
You're still spending money on it, but it doesn't necessarily know.
Twenty years ago, if you had a four carrot ring,
somebody spent six figures on that. Now, if you have
a four carret ring, it doesn't necessarily mean that. So
I guess I don't know why we're that. I debate
this all the time, Like if I actually ever did
get married, it would help to have a girlfriend first.
But if I did, like, would I spend all the
money on a re honker ring that I always intended
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I would do? When someone else can go spend a
quarter or less of it and have the same look
for less money, and everyone thinks.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's the same. Nobody would know, So that's so I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know what I would do, because you could argue, well,
if you go buy the real thing, it holds its
value and it's worth more. Well, who's you might not
be selling it? Like why you're only selling it if
we get divorced. So I don't know that I want
to help you in a divorce. So I'm going to
get you a fake as ring, I guess because that way,
if you leave me, then you don't have as much
money and I can keep my money. I don't know,
but that used to be the thing, like if you
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had a huge, huge ring, Oh man, that guy loves you.
That was he spent all his money on that. Well,
now it doesn't necessarily mean that.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Because that's still happening, Like do people show off their rings,
Like I don't know. If I like, if you had
a Mois and I ring, I wouldn't be like, that's
Mois Then I.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What is not a lab grown diamond. It's not that's
what someone is.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Section and there's three different kinds lab grown, the regular.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Smike say more. I think it's a whole different jem.
It's a whole different thing.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Gymstone, although a lab created one, okay, but not.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
A diamond technically, I would want to know, and I
also want to know.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I would want to know.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
And I'd also rather have like an heirloom that's smaller.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Than like a Mois and Night ring. So I guess
I'm a weirdo, but.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
I do feel like if I'm going to wear something
on me, I should know the facts about it and
what's going on with it. But I wouldn't want someone
to overextend and spend money they don't have.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I guess I don't know how you do that, Like
someone texted you have a conversation ahead of time about
what's realistic. Because if I give you a ring again,
I'm not going to propose to you. You're so excited,
you're happy, Oh it's so beautiful, and then go by
the way fake, No, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
You don't feel me out before, like, hey, what do
you think of those Mois and Night rings? If I'm
like new, then you know, yeah, but don't do it.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
When you're on the dock.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
On one knee, you know, overlooking the ocean.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
The dog.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, you're on a do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Here do you picture it that?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh, my hater says, this is why Fred is single. Well,
what what are you even talking about? This is a
this is a moron who has said for the last
year that they will never listen to us again, and
they text us every day.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Oh oh she's trapped in the carpet.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, thank you for your patronage. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, you could put your fingers in your ears with
something tells me to people in the carpool would appreciate
it if you weren't in the carpool anymore. Let's see
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