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anytime search for the Fred Show on demand. Waiting by
the phone, Why did somebody get ghosted? It's next? That
was traumatic, the most traumatic waiting by the phone ever.
I don't know if it is. Yeah, maybe, oh it is? Okay, goodness.

(01:07):
You're the curator of the Waiting by the Phones, so
you would know fun fact headlines and the entertainmer report
this hour what's in their key?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well that was the perfect transition because I am talking
the bachelorette, which is I think a llah what you.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Were the most shocking rose ceremony ever?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Exactly talking that, And also we all have to stop
posting where we are if we're out of town, That's
what I'm going to say, or.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
That we're out of town at all. Right, I am
very much in my home right now with a bow
and arrow is what you got to say to avoid Yeah,
I know what this is about.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Ever been left waiting by the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's the Fred Show. Hey Ross, good morning, welcome to
the show. How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Good morning? What's going on with this woman? Kelly? We
got to know how you met, about any dates you've
been on, and then where things are now, because you
know you think you're being ghosted, which is why you've
called waiting by the phone. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, I don't know, it's a it's a strange one. Yeah,
we I met this girl Kelly.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
She's cool.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
We you know, we did the whole dating app thing
and you know, a message and like conversation was good,
Like I thought it was going well, and she did
give me your number, and I figured, you know, I
asked because you know, those messages get lost and different,
you know people, and so I was like, all right,
let's let's take this off the app.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Let's message. So she gave me your number. We talked
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
We you know, we're texting, and we were planning a
first date, and then just ghosted.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So you never went on the date, like you guys
ever even met, No, but like we.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Were planning it and everything seemed fine. And I mean,
I don't know, like if she wasn't interested, why would
she give me your number?

Speaker 7 (02:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Interesting? Interesting, So you guys, Yeah, that is weird that
you would get to that point and then just the
person would just disappear. It's like, why why would they
even bother to communicate with you or write to your point,
exchange numbers or whatever. Why would you do that if
you have no intention of meeting somebody exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, So I'm just like, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, that's strange, and I would want to know what
happened too, So let's play a song. Come back into
the second. Ross, we'll call Kelly. You'll be on the
phone at the same time, and the hope is that
we can straighten this out and then set you up
on another date that we paid for. So good. Yeah, sure, Hey, Ross, Yeah,
all right, welcome back. Let's call Kelly. You met on
one of the dating apps. You got her number on
the app, you switched to text, and you guys were

(03:21):
planning a date, talking about where to go and when,
and then she disappeared and you have not heard a
word from her. Sense, so you have her number, but
now she's ignoring you. I mean, she shouldn't want to
see you. Why did she give you her number? That's weird, exactly.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, And like I said, the conversation was cool, like
there was never I look back at all the texts
and everything.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Don't think I said anything wrong. So I start planning
a date and did not go on it. It's strange.
All right, Let's call Kelly now, good luck?

Speaker 8 (03:45):
Ross, Thanks, Hello hisus Kelly.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Y Hey, Kelly, good morning. My name is Fred. I'm
calling from the Fred Show, The More Radio Show. The
whole crew is here. And I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now and I
would need your permission to continue with the call. Can
which that for just a second? Would you mind? Sorry?

Speaker 7 (04:09):
What is this about?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'll take it as a yes. So we're calling on
behalf of a dude named Ross. I guess you matched
with this guy on a dating app, and then you
exchange numbers and we're talking about a date. Do you
remember this whole process?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I do. Okay, Well what happened because Ross reached
out to us and said that you guys, I guess
matched and we're chatting and then he got your number
and then you were on text talking about a date.
You were planning a date, and then you disappeared. So
you kind of ghosted him before you ever met, it
seems like, and he's curious and we're all curious kind
of as to why what happened.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Okay, yeah, so basically, yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:47):
I mean, he seemed like a great guy to me,
but after.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
A few days, I just I realized he's just a lot.
Like there's no other way to put it.

Speaker 9 (04:58):
He's just too much for me.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Mean, how can you know that via text? Like I
can see if you met someone and their personality was
over the top or you know, you weren't vibing, there
was no in person chemistry, but how do you know
he's too much over text? Totally totally.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
So yeah, so I I did.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Give him my number because you know, he you know,
it's it's just much easier to communicate off the app.
And I literally, like the first night after I gave
him my number, I looked at my phone and I
saw he was calling me like around nine pm, and
I was like, that's a little that's a little bit much.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
So we led with a phone call, which.

Speaker 10 (05:39):
For a lot of people these days, yeah, stranger, you know,
Like I don't so I answered, I don't even know why,
and he was like, you know, just calling this sacod night, which.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Okay, I I thought was odd and I'm guessing about
your laps is also using it's odd, Like it was
odd for him to call me in the first place, right,
let alone at nine pm just to say good night,
and like at this point we're still strangers.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
But you know, I let it go and I was like,
maybe he's just super excited for Saturday, Like I'll chalk
it up to that. And so yeah, So but then
he proceeded to call me every.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Single night to say good night until.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Friday, until the day before the date.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean he wanted to make you had a good night,
you know, like he did you know, he wanted to.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
Nine o'clock phone call is so scary.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Especially from a stranger.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Like jury at five nights in a row, Like that's
really extra.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
So I honestly the fifth time I let it go
to voicemail and I blocked him because I was just like, oh, this.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Is the foot we're getting off, you know, like this
is not right.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
There's nobody in my life who wants me to have
that good of a night, like under any circumstances.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
I kind of love it, and I only say.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That nightly phone call from someone you've never met.

Speaker 9 (06:57):
Well, he didn't go bad yet with the date didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
So my only thing is like I think maybe he
was excited, but also like, we we don't call enough anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I feel like in you're first dating, I don't think
we call enough.

Speaker 9 (07:08):
My husband, who I married, You did not.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Call your husband who you're married to is supposed to
be yes, Okay, I wanted to be clear on which
husband we were talking about. The one that you're married today. Okay, yeah,
so you know you did. When did this happen?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I have a married woman and her husband still feel
like when we first started dating, he did not call,
and I.

Speaker 9 (07:29):
Didn't like that. If you would have called prior to
the day, I think that'd be actually.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Kind of cute. Okay, so it was too much communication
for you too early on? It was like, what did
it feel like a little clingy maybe?

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Or yeah, it felt like yeah, over the top.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Cleany, Yeah, let me bring Ross in because the should
be no surprise you that Ross is on the call.
He wanted to see if we were having a good morning.
So Ross, you get your phone number, and you just
think like, okay, that's that's my cue to start calling,
because I think a lot of people in this day
and age, they want to even a text before they called,
before you call, even if you know them, like hey

(08:02):
you free, can we chat? You know, because people are
busy or they don't like to talk on the phone
as much anymore. But you didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
No, I mean, damn sorry if I was interested, Like
I mean, I got.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
To say, we've heard so much worse, like this is
not the worst thing you could not have answered the phone, Kelly.
I suppose if you didn't want to talk to him,
you could have just let her go to voicemail and
maybe established a boundary that way. But the dude, it's
hard for me not to see his side because it
might have been too much. But but how many men

(08:32):
on the dating apps, myself included, have done too little.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
I mean that's fair, But like, I think.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
There's definitely a lot of middle ground between calling five
times in a row and not calling at all, Like
one one call would.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Have been okay, this to be like.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean, I suppose Kelly, you could have said, hey,
you know, I'm not a phone talker or not answered
the phone, and I think after maybe a couple of
times of you not answering the phone, hopefully he would
have gotten it. It's not as though he was calling
you over and over and over and over again, right
like in a single setting until you picked up. You know,
he was calling you at the end of the day.
Like I understand why that's not for everybody, but I mean,

(09:13):
we've heard so much worse.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
It'll be, you know, you know, women always talk about
all I want a gentleman. I want someone, you know,
I want a man who's gonna who's gonna be proactive
and do more and make and so I'm doing that,
I'm calling and that's a turnoff, Then all right, cool,
I'll find someone that will, like, come.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
On, I just I mean listen, Like I I guess
I appreciate like the sentiment, but like being a gentleman
doesn't mean you call someone you just met late at
night multiple days in a row, you know, like again
one instance that would have been fine, but like five
times is not.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Cool for me.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Like, especially like you don't know what it's like as
a woman to just like receive calls from you know,
it's just like it instantly puts you in this like scary.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'll tell you what, Like I don't know what. Yeah, yeah,
I'm scary, I think might. I mean, I'm not here
to tell you how to feel. But I've had people
before say, like when I get their phone number before
I meet him, Hey do you want to do you
want to chat? And they're like, no, I'd rather wait
till we meet, like I'd rather or hey, I'm not
going to give you my number, like I'd rather just
meet and and and then if I'm comfortable with the date,

(10:19):
then I'll give you my number and then we can
go from there. I just think if this is something
that was important to you, or you were bothered by it.
I think if you had said something to him like hey,
I'd rather not talk till the date, or I'm not
a big phone talker, or let's just chat on Friday
or whatever, and then he keeps calling, well, then he's
then I think he's he's gone. You know, he's broken
a boundary. But you didn't say that, So I think

(10:43):
it's hard for me to to not think maybe he's
just trying, which I feel like women do say all
the time, I wish the guy would try harder, except
in this case, you wish he hadn't tried hard, which
is kind of tough for a guy to know when
he's not supposed to try hard.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
I just didn't want to be I didn't want him
to misconstrue me as being rude, you know, and like
I wanted us to start off on the right foot
and like give him the benefit of the doubt. But
I also like, if I'm going to date someone, I
want them to like know without asking that calling somebody
five nights in a row when we're essentially strangers? Is

(11:17):
too much like that should just be something that way,
you should know so you.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Didn't want to be concerned as rude, so you just
go see come on right?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I see aspects of both sides here. But look,
I'll ask the question, Kelly, do you want to you know,
hit reset here? Maybe and Ross won't call you until
the date. You guys can go on the date and
see if it works out. I mean, I think I
see where his intentions were, and I also think I
see why you were hoping he would sort of get

(11:45):
the drift. But do you want to try or no?

Speaker 6 (11:48):
I think that we're too far gone at this point.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Too far gone.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
You want a man that don't talk to her at all?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I understand, but he didn't talk enough. I bet
it's probably not going to be great. So he needs
to talk the right amount, but not.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
Only talk when I talk to you.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, understood, understood? Yeah I got him. Hey, Ross, Look,
I don't think you're a bad guy. I think, you know,
maybe we got to read the room a little bit here,
but I can also see the mixed messager or I
can see why you were where you were thinking, and
you were trying, and I'm sorry I didn't work out,
but I wish you guys both the best of luck.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Calin's entertainment report he's on the Bread Show.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Oh, Tory Lanez just got himself into more legal trouble,
this time during a deposition tied to Meg the Stallion's
ongoing defamation case against a blogger. While he was being
questioned under oath, Tory and his lawyer reportedly caused a
big old scene. He was swearing, walked out, and his
lawyer was accused of coaching him on what to say.
The judge wasn't having any of it and ruled both

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of them in contempt of court.

Speaker 9 (12:45):
The penalty Tory now owes twenty g's and his lawyer
owes five.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Tory's already serving ten years for shooting Meg the Stallion
back in twenty twenty, but this adds another mess that
he has to deal with in his civil case. As
you now know, Taylor Frankie All from the Secret Lives
of Mormon Wives is the new bachelorette, and spoiler alert,
it looks like she's embracing the title already making out
with some of the guys, which I would expect nothing

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less do your thing girl. There are photos of her
making out with one of the suitors named Casey during
filming in Vegas. She's in a black robe and she's
kind of all over him. They're making out in what
appears to be a hotel casino. He literally picks her
up at one point. And of course she is also
now currently on the newest season, season three of Hulu's

(13:34):
The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She was the one
who kind of started it all with the soft swinging scandal.
I guess we're calling it soft swinging mom talk mom
talk at all?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Tis sure now, because you know they're all vying to
be the most famous, you know, of the group, and
then this is obviously a huge platform, right.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I was surprised they all picked Remember at the
end of last season, I know you're about to embark
on the new one, that they all kind of picked
Taylor over to me, who was like, Marshall, Marshall, marsha,
I don't want her to be the star. And wait
till you hear what their demand. There's two people not
coming back, what their demands were in their contracts and
why they had to leave the show. Guys, come on

(14:13):
one of them didn't even want more money. She asks
for other things and you will get a little treat
when you watch that. It's really good three seasons out now.
So if you're looking for something corny.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Kind of freak me out. It was especially that I'm
sorry with the husband's really freak me out. There's just
something very strange. I don't know what's going on, but
they all they all have the same sort of like
claymation characteristic, like like they're a little robotic.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, and to do all the like soft swinging and
all the like naughty things.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
But they're all doing it sober.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Like that's another level, you know, because a lot of
them drink.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm just saying, I mean, I'm a soft swinger when
i'm drinking, but when I'm sober, I'm absolutely not to
be a situation with zero anything.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
And then you just start soft swinging with your friends,
like when.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You crack a beer and I hear it crack, I'm like,
that's the sound of soft swinging. That is it's going
to be a tight you No.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
I don't know, and crazier to me.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
On Sunday, rookie quarterback Shadora Sanders made his NFL debut
for the Browns. His dad said he cried stepping in
when the starter was sidelined by a concussion, but while
he was on the field, his house was broken into
during the game.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
Still unclear whether anything was stolen.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I don't know suspects or anything, but he's now at
least the sixth NFL player known to have some home.
They're home targeted while they were playing because people know
they're not home now. In similar news, the homes of
the Real Housewives of Beverly hillstars Kathy Hilton, Paris' mom
and Sutton's track, both very rich women, were burglarized Saturday

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while they were.

Speaker 9 (15:44):
At bravocon So.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Cops say that around two pm, Sutton's dog walker called
nine one one said the kitchen window was broken.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
Even crazier is Rick Hilton.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like Rick Hilton called nine one one and said that
there were three dudes inside the family home. Cops came,
but they had already escaped. And so it is very
much giving. I know that you guys are away and
I'm going to try to break in your home, So
I guess we can't post nothing nowhere. I mean, I
don't have much to see you, but It's a good
thing to remember if.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
You're thinking about rabbit my house. Just once you know
I'm in my I'm in my house in my underwear
with a BB gun right now.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Paulina's got the straps at my apartment exactly, so I am.

Speaker 9 (16:24):
Don't you dare, don't even think about it.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
Nope.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
But still there's nothing in their stake.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
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The only vertical Only the vertical measure changes, I guess,
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if they did. Like the older you get.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
My stomach could figure out the same method.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I be great, I know. Could I have the same
stomach that I had when I was twenty to twenty
one years old. That would be amazing. Also, blue eyed
people have higher alcohol tolerance, which I don't know if
that's try blue eyes tonight. Yeah, I'm out of practice
these days.

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Speaker 2 (18:07):
Like a're writing in our diaries, except we say him aloud.
We call him blogs Jason Brown.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yes, I need an explanation, Go okay, thank you, dear blog.
So if anyone that is listening that lives with a
significant other, maybe they have a hobby or something that
is just a tad bit annoying. So my boyfriend Mike
last night decided that he is a coin counter now
he bought a coin counting machine, and so we have

(18:35):
like bags of change, because you know, like when you
have like changing your popula, we throw it in like
a receptacle whatever. Well, the receptacle keep getting gets filled
and filled, so we dump it in these bags. So
there's just bags of coins in the closet. So he
decides that he now, where's.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
He getting all these coins? Where's he getting all the
cash for the points?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Well, he pays a lot of stuff in cash till
he still use That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
I think you own your own business. I don't even
think he has a debit card, like I think, like
it's all like cash. So so we're paying in cash.
Hand me the money I'll deal with. He's really old school,
like he doesn't like using a card for anything, Like
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Speaker 2 (19:11):
I just like that.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
He's like that too.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
We call them sonic, Like why are you walking around
with all them coins in your past?

Speaker 9 (19:18):
It's always coins?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
So we've all these changes.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
So he purchased this like coin counter slash like organizer things.
So you're just like it's this like black machine that
you plug in the wall and you dump coins in
the top of it, and it counts it and sorts
it into like all these different little compartments and whatever.
And so he decided he was going to do it,
and where are we going to do it. We're going

(19:44):
to do it at the foot of the bed, and
we're going to start last night.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Okay, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
A great place. The bedroom is a great place night
to make a lot of noise with your coins.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
So it's seven o'clock he starts doing this. Now I'm
talking about hours. There were hours of this, and and
I'm just sitting there and I'm listening, and it's great, right,
he's here's a hobby. I guess, now, great, we love that.
But then it starts getting to the point where I'm
trying to go to bed. So I'm laying in bed.
The dogs are scared because there's this loud machine. So
they're freaking out, jumping on off the bed, growling at it,

(20:16):
trying to like trying to attack it, blah blah blah.
So I'm trying to like settle them down. I get
into bed, like full on, like get into bed, put
the covers on, turn the TV on. I'm laying there like, bro,
I'm going to bed like it's time by have at
three o'clock wake up and going to bed, and He's
just like handful, handful, handful.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Place to do this. I'm like, brill room, the kitchen,
any other the front porch, anywhere else but where we're at.
So finally it was nine thirty and I sat up
and I just looked at him, and he's like, what's wrong.
I was like nothing, and so then he just like
he looked at the dog and he was like, all right,

(20:55):
I think we can stop for tonight.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I was like, yeah, okay, thank you. I just want
to know where he's getting all these he's from.

Speaker 9 (21:00):
Ye give you cash. What is the point of sorting that?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
I haven't heard the plan After we sort so that
I don't know, we.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Go to the bank with all this and then you
get cash that us either spend or put in the
banks where there's a lot of steps.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
But like now I have a bag of quarters, I
have a bag of nickels, I have a bag of pennies.
So now we're walking into the bank with the sort
of bags for them just to dump it in their
own machine and to count it.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
Probably so I don't know. Maybe it's just a hobby,
which is fine.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
We love a hobby. But nothing that's that loud at
nine thirty. I just imagine handfuls of coins dropping into
a machine for hours.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
Why didn't you just tell him?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm wait till he learns about bitcoin, Wait till he
learns about apple pey right, wait, wait till out because
I think.

Speaker 9 (21:48):
He writes checks.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
He has a check book I don't even have.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, he's a shocks and coins.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah. God, so that was my night last yet night.
I'm in the bedroom, that's exactly. And I saw the
video on your TikTok and I need to understand. But
I but I think I do understand because I've met
I've met Mike the Mechanics, So I think I think
I know