September 22, 2023 • 22 mins
On today's show, we talked about avoiding plans, Fred taught us what Paperclipping is, and Kaelin gave us the Entertainment Report!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Calen, you and I are the same in some ways.
A lot of ways, I'm like this too. My therapist
was asking me, like, well, why don't you find yourself,
Like why don't you go on more dates? Like well,
because then I go through the whole thing. I'm like, Well,
Sunday through Thursday, I have to be in my house
at like seven ish because if i'm not, then the
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winding down process doesn't start. And like if I'm out,
and most people they don't. They can't if they have
like a normal job, they can't go out until six
thirty seven anyway, So now I'm out till now. The
dinner or whatever is going till nine, and then if
there's some you know, extracurricular activities going on, then we're
you know, at least nine fifteen at nine twenty two,
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you know what I'm saying something like that, And then
I got to wind down and go to sleep, and
then we have to wake up at four something and
then go do so I don't know, and then I
pay for it the next day. It's not worth it.
So then then there's Friday. Well Friday is kind of
like I don't know what I'm going to feel like
on Friday, you know, and then so Saturday would be
the day for a date.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Really, but then if.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I say to someone like on Monday Saturday, let's go
on a date, Well, now I got to do that
all week. I got I'm committed and I don't have
a commitment problem with people. But what if Saturday comes along?
That's seven six days away, this is five days away.
What if I don't want to do it? What if
I no longer want to do the thing? And you
were talking about your Instagram lives that you do, Kaylin,
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and you're like, well, I don't tease them, because what
if the day comes and I don't feel like, you know,
what if I don't want to do it, I've committed
to it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It gives me anxiety to put something way out there
that's elective, because dating is elective. It's not like I'm
putting out there going to see my sister or something,
you know, Like that's different. But what if Saturday comes
along and I'm like, you know, I don't really have
the words.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't have the words for this social outing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Because you're a whole different person on Monday versus Saturday,
Like my whole personality changes by day.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I agree, when I think it's a good idea on
Monday may not be a good idea by Saturday exactly.
So then I kind of like to say, like what
you in tonight? But that doesn't go over very well.
People are offended by that. It's like, what do you
mean what am I doing tonight? You think I wouldn't
have any plans tonight. I'm like, I don't look at
it that way, right, you know, I just I'm just
curious what you like we're doing tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You think i'd be available tomorrow? It's like, real, are you?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And then there are some people who believe in this
whole concept that you're not supposed to be available after
Wednesday because if if I ask you out post Wednesday
and you don't have plans yet, then you're going to
look like you didn't have plans, like you weren't in demand.
That's a real thing I've heard before. I've read this
place before, like the women are supposed to decline dates
post Wednesday for the weekend because you're in demand, ladies,
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And you would never be available to anyone after Wednesday,
because because of course you've already been asked out.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, I can see how that would work in a
woman's favor as far as like, you know, I'm a
woman in demand, you're the man, right, you're coming from
me type thing.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm not going to be available at the drop of
a pin. But I always say this.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
If we're already talking, we've established that we've hung out
already and I'm interested, Like, I think it's a apropriate
and fine to ask, like, what are you doing tonight tomorrow?
Like that's fine, now it was our first date. What
are you doing tomorrow? I'd be like, sir, no, you
got you gotta wait a week for this.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
What.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I just recently had someone do this to me and
I was and honestly it turned me off. I was like, wait,
what you like, what are you talking about? Like, because
I met this person on a Thursday, and I'm like,
squat this weekend. Oh no, I have other dates this weekend.
I don't even know if it's true.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That part is weird. They tell you like they have
other dates or other Well, but that's.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
What you're in, that's what That's what by saying that
you're not available to a guy you just met late
in the week, isn't that what you're implying that is,
I don't I don't have time for you because there
are other people that want to go out with me.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
What are you implying then I could be busy with
my friends.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Maybe I'm gonna do this, maybe I got an event
at work, Like, I don't think it necessarily means I'm
going on a date. And that's weird they tell you
that. That is weirdo energy to me. If they're telling you.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That, girls like, yeah, I got another date, Like why
you're well, no, I met this person in person, but
nonetheless told her to cancel the day. You should cancel
the day. She wouldn't do that, so that's okay. But
then I'm kind of turned off because I'm like, oh
so I got to wait till you figure out if
you like the other guy first, Like, oh no, that's okay.
And granted, this other guy had asked her out prior
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to me even meeting her, but of course I think
I'm better than him, so I think you should cancel.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I thought that was a good move. I was proud
of you for that whole scene.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Or at least I project. I don't think I'm better
than anyone else, but I'm like I'm I you should.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You should. I'm standing right here.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You should say no to the other person go out
with me, and said And at least I maybe it
comes off cocky, but at the same time, it's not
what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
When you ask someone I like, I have another date?
What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Be like okay, no, we should all feel that way
about ourselves. We're the best option. Hello, it's right here.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, But sometimes I think people they they I've never
once been like, hey, you want to go out tonight
or tomorrow and if the woman is like yeah, I've
never once thought like, nobody wants this chick never minds
like yeah, I just I just want to see any
body else wanted to over there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I've never once thought them, yeah, you can't play ladies.
We shouldn't play games like that.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't think it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like if you it's mighty actually and you're actually free
go out.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Just be genuine like you're honest, answer like why do
you want to start off an interaction train? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well hold on with all you guys are in long
term relationships and things have really changed down there with.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
All of you just in his defense, but I do.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I don't know that there should be I think everything
is so situational.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I don't know either. It needs to be a rule
that fits everything. I hear what we're all saying now.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I hear.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
The only thing I'm saying is that I'm on soft
girl TikTok. Right now, that's my soft girl emma, feminine,
feminem and energy.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I wonder how is soft girl TikTok killing?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Here we go?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Here we go?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Basically, my algorithm is telling me that I have a
lot of masculine energy, which I know I do, like
I pick it up from my mother, just like the
way that I am Like my mom is very alpha
for sure, So I know I am too. And now
I'm trying to be my feminim I can't say that word.
My feminim era means your feminine.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I'm trying to lead with.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What does it have to do with TikTok? Well, that's
my algorithm.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I'm all these videos algorithm, I was.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Gonna say, and so then you so all this stuff
is coming up on our Instagram that says like that
you should be more feminine.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, and living in your feminine soft girl era. So
like not to be a hard ass blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But what falls into.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That is is kind of like the whole like no,
you're worth thing as a woman, which like I know
we all do here, and I'm not saying we don't.
We all do no matter what you choose, you I know,
you know, you work, You're worth. What I'm trying to
say is that, like you can't be so available to
what they're trying to say to men, because it's not
like a bad thing. I don't think you sit there
and go like wow, like nobody wants you if you're
if you're free tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's not what I'm saying is that we're supposed to
come off and portray ourselves as not available at the
drop of a pin type thing that's supposed to put
you in your soft girl era.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I don't agree with that because, like I don't know,
this girl had been like yeah great, let's go, like okay, cool,
I wouldn't have thought two things about I just would
have been excited the momentums moving forward, Like I was
excited to meet her, and now I'm excited to go
out with her.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You're not gonna make me.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Wait ten days because I don't know I'm ten Like already,
I'm turned off by that. What the hell are you
doing for ten days that you can you know what
I mean? This coming from the same guy that doesn't
actually want to commit to something ten days from now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
On ten days, I don't know, I might be I
might be in uh, you know, Barbados. I don't know,
tex I always go to Barbados. Everyone knows that every
ten days I'm there.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Ten days is kind of insane. But if it's like,
I don't know, four or five days, like you wouldn't
I don't think you would say no just because she says.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I just think it's silly that you'd rather go home
and sit at your house pretending to be in demand
than go out with someone because because you because you,
because you've projected onto them that they won't value you.
That doesn't I mean that honestly, that's more in your
head than it is in most other people's.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, maybe there are guys out there that are
like I couldn't get plan A, I couldn't get planned B.
So yeah, you're planned C. I don't know. Maybe, But
I guess I don't look at it that way. I'm
just a guy who doesn't plan well social outings because
I'm a moody guy. I'm a moody guy, and I
don't always, you know, sometimes I don't want to. I
(08:08):
don't know. Maybe maybe I want to go out tonight.
Maybe I don't. I haven't decided. But for me to say,
for me to say Wednesday, that Friday at eight o'clock,
I'm going to meet you for a date seems worlds away,
and I understand that's a turnoff for a lot of people.
But I can also tell you that if I say
to you tonight, hey, wait you tonight, let's go to dinner,
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that is not intended to be me saying that you
weren't a priority. That's just me saying I'm in the
mood to go out. Are you free? That's it? You
are you or aren't you? But if you tell me
no and then go sit on your couch and drink
wine because you're trying to send a message, I'm turned off.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, especially if I find out.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You're assuming that she's sending a message. But sometimes people
just want to be by themselves. Drinking wine after a
long week. That's not a diss towards anybody, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
For you to for me to ask a woman out
to her face and for her to say maybe next
weekend says to me, you're trying to send me. You're
telling me because I'm like, what about brunch? What about
you know? What about? What about coffee? What about? This
doesn't have to be dinner. You don't have anything, you
can't do anything for eight days. I'm like, okay, well
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this is how it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
But what does she tells you?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean, I'm sure I know the answer to this.
So she goes, I'm out of town for the week.
Obviously you're like, oh, that's different, okay, but she.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Didn't say that. She's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I got a date on Saturday, and then I don't know,
maybe next weekend. And then so automatically I'm like, okay,
so we're gonna so now I gotta sit around wait
to see how your date goes and maybe next weekend.
And then apparently I was supposed to keep chasing. I
was supposed to keep asking yes over and over again,
and I'm like, no, I gave you three options. You
said no to all three, told me next weekend balls
in your court? Now, yeah, you know what I mean? Like,
you would you respect me if I just kept asking
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over and over again go out with me? One?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Go out? You already know? You know?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So at what point are we talking about the your
perception of my value?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
If a guy's asking you out all the time, aren't
you like this guy's needy or something?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, yeah, you're think yeah all the time, and I'm
saying clearly I'm saying no at that point.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So yeah, Like I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And you could argue she didn't want to go out
with me, Well then just say don't give me your number,
you know in that case, Hey Ryan, Ray, how are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Hey man? You planned dates two weeks in advance? How
you do that?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I just I was just gonna suggest that if you
did that, then she'll be thinking, oh man, this this
guy bus. You ain't got lots of plans all the.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Time two weeks month.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I appreciate it, but yeah, I don't even know if
a woman would commit to sign she might two weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Thank you, Ryan, Have a good day. Yeah or something. Yeah,
he's a girl. There you go.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Here's a text. No games in dating. You're too old
for that. If someone is meant to progress, everyone pulls this.
That's another thing. I was talking to a friend of
mine that night, and it's like, if she liked you, she.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Would have figured it out. But maybe she did.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But instead it was like, this girl is young, but
this girl's really young, by the way, like midwe he's young,
and so yeah, and someone's like, she's not interested. I'm like,
I don't, maybe not. I guess not. I don't know
that matter to me. But I mean I would much
rather somebody just honestly, I'd rather be ghosted. I'd rather
somebody does not respond to me than than to hang
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me out there for weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I don't, right, Why don't you find another date until
next week?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I didn't. Don't you worried about?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You think you think I went home and just said
around no, yes, So I didn't do that marking off
the days in this calendar on four more days.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Calendar.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
He's got a big circle of it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
She probably maybe she's not interested. I don't know, I
guess not. It's easy enough to just say I'm seeing
someone you know, I don't know. There's a lot of
ways to get someone to stop asking or to say
that you don't want to go out with them without
saying I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Out with you. This proves my theory.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
This is a text that girls think that guys are
more complicated than they actually are, so we make things
complicated because we think you are more complicated. In the end,
we need to drop all the silly expectations and be honest.
I agree, Trust me, most guys are not thinking as
far into it as as you are. And I don't
mean it to make that a male female thing because
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I obviously have thought about this dynamic for ten days now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I didn't get my way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But I think most people in the moment are just
they're just trying to get what they want. They just
they just you know, they're just going with it right
now and not thinking about, well, you know, if she
tells me no then or if she's I better say
no because I need to look into man and I
have plans, and men want me and women want me
and all this stuff. It's like, you know, what, if
you meet the right person, all that goes out the
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window anyway, right, like if you're more excited, but then bye,
we're not married.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Hey, Kiki, we're not married. That's right. Single.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Maybe I have a new term for you guys today,
just in case, because I want to keep you up
to date all the time on all the different dating terminology.
It's very important. Do you believe any of you? Have
you ever been or are you being paper clipped?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
This is when an X reaches out just after you
got over them in order to then disappear again.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's called paper clipping.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's toxic because they mean to keep you on the
back burner and unbalanced. This is according to a clinical psychologist,
it's when someone has enough emotional intelligence to know what
they're doing, but they also have high manipulative tendencies and
a disregard for how the behaviors are affecting others. The
red flags of paper clipping being treated as if you're disposable,
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a lack of concern for your well being, having no
end goal in sight, sporadic, random and non meaningful conference.
This sounds like me, but except I don't have no
I don't have a lack. There's nothing sinister about it,
you know, I don't. I don't reach out to people
that i've I mean, but this is like, I think
this is people you had like a full on relationship with.
(14:04):
I think that's kind of messed up. If you had
a full on relationship and then the person gets over you,
but you're still hanging around, like there's real emotional baggage
that's still sort of lingering there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think that's messed up.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
If it's just casual, you just ignore the person, right,
If it's just casual and you hear from someone you
don't want to talk to, you just ignore them. I
was trying to tell someone this the other day. This
is this girl, she's young, mid twenties, feels like she
got screwed over by this guy, and she's, you know,
posting all these thirst traps and trying to come up
with all these different ways to, you know, do what
to say to him in response when he reaches out
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again for sex or whatever. And I'm like, I got
an idea. Don't say a word, nothing, nothing, nothing nothing
drive And I know this for a I know this
is a guy who's been dating for twenty years. Nothing
drives someone more crazy than when you do not respond
to them. Yes, no words are all the words. And
I'm trying to tell her, but I want to tell him,
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and I'm gonna do this. I'm going to like it's
it's so transparent.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Sounds like me.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I will fight till there's no fight left in me.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
But like they say that no response is a response,
and that actually from what I've heard from TikTok is,
you know it's my bible, they say that men respond
better to no response, like that'll make you go more
crazy as opposed to get exactly getting a long paragraph
that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Like if I if I'm seeing somebody and it doesn't
you know, that person's not happy with me, and then
all of a sudden she starts posting swimsuit photos or whatever.
I'm like, oh, not that I want to get to anyone.
I'm not trying to get to anyone. It's not it's
not sinister, it's not a purpose. But like then I know, like, oh,
I see what you're doing here, Like I see what's
going on. You know you have an upper hand in
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that way, even if you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And then but it's like sometimes you just got to
you just say nothing. Yes, works like a charm and.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It drives people crazy. So this paper clipping thing just
you don't allow it to happen. I guess you just
you just don't respond and then and then it's like
you can start blocking people. But I think when you
block people that also says something that old that I
think you don't block, you don't do anything. You just
don't say anything.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And keep living life like they never existed.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, it drives me nut's when it happens to me.
It drives me crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh gosh, okay, what does because it's like wait a minute,
Well no, it's like wait a minute. But on the
flip side, if I don't know why, sometimes people do
it and then you don't know necessary because again I
think this term is about Okay, you were in a relationship,
there was high emotion, you break up, that takes a
while to get over. You get over, and then this
person just keeps appearing. Now that's manipulative because it's like,
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you know what you're doing there if it's casual and
it just kind of you pop in and out because
that's always been the nature of the relationship. Then sometimes
when someone doesn't respond, you're like, well, wait a minute,
what did I do? You know what I mean, like,
what did I do to you? Like we didn't have
it was informal, So now all of a sudden, why
am I not worthy? But anyway, all this, all this
means is when you don't respond, people start thinking and
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then you have the control.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's right. Yeah, I heard fewer words. It's not more worse.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So you want control, man, that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Uh No, I don't want to feel like I don't
have control though, if that makes sense, Okay, I don't
need control. I just I don't like the unknown, you
know what I mean, Like, I don't. I don't like
it when I mean, you're this way, So I think
it's the anxiety. Are you this way? When you like
if someone If you reach out to someone and they
don't respond to you in a period of time, you're like,
why why don't they respond to me?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, which is why I always respond no matter what.
I don't believe in not responding to people.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
But that's just me. Yeah, I like words.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That's what I'm saying though, is it's not a control thing.
It's it's just where do I stand? Even if it's
not good. I guess I'd rather know where I stand. Yeah,
but then you don't give me that. It's like Caitlin's
entertainer report is on.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
The Fresh Show, Kith and Jenner wasn't trying to fire
shots at Kim Kardashian when she said that Kim was
calculated and always had been with her move to fame,
and I think like no one was surprised.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I mean, I think that's pretty open. Kim has always
said I.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Wanted to be famous, I want wanted to be in
the magazines, like she was thirsty, let's just call a
spatus bata.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
But when Kaitlyn said.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
It, people thought, you know that they that Caitlyn.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Was coming for her.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And it's really that her comments in the promo were
really just a big, bigger part of a smaller part
of a bigger conversation.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
So here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Caitlyn's featured in the trailer for that upcoming DOCU series
House of Kardashian, which it's a British show. I can't
even speak today. I don't know if we can even
watch it. I'm looking, but it dives deep into the
family's rise to fame, and in the first look, which
came out last week, Caitlyn says that the quote was
kimberly calculated from the beginning, how do I become famous?
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And while it seems like a dig I'm hearing that
the calculated.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Word wasn't the best choice.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But it's already been related to Kim that she didn't
mean it as a diss and it's.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Part of a bigger conversation.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You know how with trailers they try to make things
look more salacious than they actually are, and they have spoken,
they're on good terms. Kim understands a bad at when
she sees one, and for the first time.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I mean, this is a series that the Kardashians don't.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Have control over the editing, so it may not go
their way. But she didn't mean it that way. And
I honestly thought she was just stating a fact, because
that is very true. You know, she wanted to be famous.
That's just a fact. The CEO of Adidas, this is interesting.
I don't know how to say Beyorn Golden. I don't
know that's his name, bjo r n Bejorn. He spoke
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about Kanye West, saying the rapper and producer is not
a bad person. So I don't know why he felt
the need to say this. But remember Adidas cut their
ties with him after he made very very anti Semitic remarks.
So this dude, this Adida's dude, was on a podcast
and he said, when you work with third parties, that
can happen. It's part of the game. That can happen
with an athlete and entertainer. It's part of the business.
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I think Kanye is one of the most creative people
in the world, which is true both in music and
I would call street culture.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
He's extremely creative.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
But then he was like asked specifically about those comments,
and he said, I don't think he met what he said,
and I don't think he's a bad person.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It just came across that way.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
That's kind of what I have an issue with because
he repeatedly said it, and you know, doubled down. So
I don't even know why you would cut ties with
someone if you don't, I don't know. It was like,
it was a very interesting thing to say.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I feel like he's just trying to say face because
I know they've lost it.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
They've lost a ton of money since he Yeah, of course,
and like I don't know any.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Other Adidas besides me, honestly, Yea, he's trying to help
the business.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
It's also not a good look for a German to
be like talking about anti semin Semitism in a way
that's like not, you know, fully against it.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I don't know. I just feel like I don't know
why he touched that, but he did.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
And I mean I don't I don't know that Kanye
is a bad person either. I just think he definitely
met it at the time, whatever the hell he was saying.
Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and Stephen Colbert have canceled a
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Calen, you and I are the same in some ways.
A lot of ways, I'm like this too. My therapist
was asking me, like, well, why don't you find yourself,
Like why don't you go on more dates? Like well,
because then I go through the whole thing. I'm like, Well,
Sunday through Thursday, I have to be in my house
at like seven ish because if i'm not, then the
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winding down process doesn't start. And like if I'm out,
and most people they don't. They can't if they have
like a normal job, they can't go out until six
thirty seven anyway, So now I'm out till now. The
dinner or whatever is going till nine, and then if
there's some you know, extracurricular activities going on, then we're
you know, at least nine fifteen at nine twenty two,
(00:43):
you know what I'm saying something like that, And then
I got to wind down and go to sleep, and
then we have to wake up at four something and
then go do so I don't know, and then I
pay for it the next day. It's not worth it.
So then then there's Friday. Well Friday is kind of
like I don't know what I'm going to feel like
on Friday, you know, and then so Saturday would be
the day for a date.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Really, but then if.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I say to someone like on Monday Saturday, let's go
on a date, Well, now I got to do that
all week. I got I'm committed and I don't have
a commitment problem with people. But what if Saturday comes along?
That's seven six days away, this is five days away.
What if I don't want to do it? What if
I no longer want to do the thing? And you
were talking about your Instagram lives that you do, Kaylin,
(01:25):
and you're like, well, I don't tease them, because what
if the day comes and I don't feel like, you know,
what if I don't want to do it, I've committed
to it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It gives me anxiety to put something way out there
that's elective, because dating is elective. It's not like I'm
putting out there going to see my sister or something,
you know, Like that's different. But what if Saturday comes
along and I'm like, you know, I don't really have
the words.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't have the words for this social outing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Because you're a whole different person on Monday versus Saturday,
Like my whole personality changes by day.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I agree, when I think it's a good idea on
Monday may not be a good idea by Saturday exactly.
So then I kind of like to say, like what
you in tonight? But that doesn't go over very well.
People are offended by that. It's like, what do you
mean what am I doing tonight? You think I wouldn't
have any plans tonight. I'm like, I don't look at
it that way, right, you know, I just I'm just
curious what you like we're doing tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You think i'd be available tomorrow? It's like, real, are you?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And then there are some people who believe in this
whole concept that you're not supposed to be available after
Wednesday because if if I ask you out post Wednesday
and you don't have plans yet, then you're going to
look like you didn't have plans, like you weren't in demand.
That's a real thing I've heard before. I've read this
place before, like the women are supposed to decline dates
post Wednesday for the weekend because you're in demand, ladies,
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And you would never be available to anyone after Wednesday,
because because of course you've already been asked out.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, I can see how that would work in a
woman's favor as far as like, you know, I'm a
woman in demand, you're the man, right, you're coming from
me type thing.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm not going to be available at the drop of
a pin. But I always say this.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
If we're already talking, we've established that we've hung out
already and I'm interested, Like, I think it's a apropriate
and fine to ask, like, what are you doing tonight tomorrow?
Like that's fine, now it was our first date. What
are you doing tomorrow? I'd be like, sir, no, you
got you gotta wait a week for this.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
What.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I just recently had someone do this to me and
I was and honestly it turned me off. I was like, wait,
what you like, what are you talking about? Like, because
I met this person on a Thursday, and I'm like,
squat this weekend. Oh no, I have other dates this weekend.
I don't even know if it's true.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That part is weird. They tell you like they have
other dates or other Well, but that's.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
What you're in, that's what That's what by saying that
you're not available to a guy you just met late
in the week, isn't that what you're implying that is,
I don't I don't have time for you because there
are other people that want to go out with me.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
What are you implying then I could be busy with
my friends.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Maybe I'm gonna do this, maybe I got an event
at work, Like, I don't think it necessarily means I'm
going on a date. And that's weird they tell you
that. That is weirdo energy to me. If they're telling you.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That, girls like, yeah, I got another date, Like why
you're well, no, I met this person in person, but
nonetheless told her to cancel the day. You should cancel
the day. She wouldn't do that, so that's okay. But
then I'm kind of turned off because I'm like, oh
so I got to wait till you figure out if
you like the other guy first, Like, oh no, that's okay.
And granted, this other guy had asked her out prior
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to me even meeting her, but of course I think
I'm better than him, so I think you should cancel.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I thought that was a good move. I was proud
of you for that whole scene.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Or at least I project. I don't think I'm better
than anyone else, but I'm like I'm I you should.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You should. I'm standing right here.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You should say no to the other person go out
with me, and said And at least I maybe it
comes off cocky, but at the same time, it's not
what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
When you ask someone I like, I have another date?
What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Be like okay, no, we should all feel that way
about ourselves. We're the best option. Hello, it's right here.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, But sometimes I think people they they I've never
once been like, hey, you want to go out tonight
or tomorrow and if the woman is like yeah, I've
never once thought like, nobody wants this chick never minds
like yeah, I just I just want to see any
body else wanted to over there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I've never once thought them, yeah, you can't play ladies.
We shouldn't play games like that.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't think it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like if you it's mighty actually and you're actually free
go out.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Just be genuine like you're honest, answer like why do
you want to start off an interaction train? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well hold on with all you guys are in long
term relationships and things have really changed down there with.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
All of you just in his defense, but I do.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I don't know that there should be I think everything
is so situational.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I don't know either. It needs to be a rule
that fits everything. I hear what we're all saying now.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I hear.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
The only thing I'm saying is that I'm on soft
girl TikTok. Right now, that's my soft girl emma, feminine,
feminem and energy.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I wonder how is soft girl TikTok killing?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Here we go?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Here we go?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Basically, my algorithm is telling me that I have a
lot of masculine energy, which I know I do, like
I pick it up from my mother, just like the
way that I am Like my mom is very alpha
for sure, So I know I am too. And now
I'm trying to be my feminim I can't say that word.
My feminim era means your feminine.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I'm trying to lead with.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What does it have to do with TikTok? Well, that's
my algorithm.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I'm all these videos algorithm, I was.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Gonna say, and so then you so all this stuff
is coming up on our Instagram that says like that
you should be more feminine.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes, and living in your feminine soft girl era. So
like not to be a hard ass blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But what falls into.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That is is kind of like the whole like no,
you're worth thing as a woman, which like I know
we all do here, and I'm not saying we don't.
We all do no matter what you choose, you I know,
you know, you work, You're worth. What I'm trying to
say is that, like you can't be so available to
what they're trying to say to men, because it's not
like a bad thing. I don't think you sit there
and go like wow, like nobody wants you if you're
if you're free tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's not what I'm saying is that we're supposed to
come off and portray ourselves as not available at the
drop of a pin type thing that's supposed to put
you in your soft girl era.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I don't agree with that because, like I don't know,
this girl had been like yeah great, let's go, like okay, cool,
I wouldn't have thought two things about I just would
have been excited the momentums moving forward, Like I was
excited to meet her, and now I'm excited to go
out with her.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You're not gonna make me.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Wait ten days because I don't know I'm ten Like already,
I'm turned off by that. What the hell are you
doing for ten days that you can you know what
I mean? This coming from the same guy that doesn't
actually want to commit to something ten days from now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
On ten days, I don't know, I might be I
might be in uh, you know, Barbados. I don't know,
tex I always go to Barbados. Everyone knows that every
ten days I'm there.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Ten days is kind of insane. But if it's like,
I don't know, four or five days, like you wouldn't
I don't think you would say no just because she says.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I just think it's silly that you'd rather go home
and sit at your house pretending to be in demand
than go out with someone because because you because you,
because you've projected onto them that they won't value you.
That doesn't I mean that honestly, that's more in your
head than it is in most other people's.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, maybe there are guys out there that are
like I couldn't get plan A, I couldn't get planned B.
So yeah, you're planned C. I don't know. Maybe, But
I guess I don't look at it that way. I'm
just a guy who doesn't plan well social outings because
I'm a moody guy. I'm a moody guy, and I
don't always, you know, sometimes I don't want to. I
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don't know. Maybe maybe I want to go out tonight.
Maybe I don't. I haven't decided. But for me to say,
for me to say Wednesday, that Friday at eight o'clock,
I'm going to meet you for a date seems worlds away,
and I understand that's a turnoff for a lot of people.
But I can also tell you that if I say
to you tonight, hey, wait you tonight, let's go to dinner,
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that is not intended to be me saying that you
weren't a priority. That's just me saying I'm in the
mood to go out. Are you free? That's it? You
are you or aren't you? But if you tell me
no and then go sit on your couch and drink
wine because you're trying to send a message, I'm turned off.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, especially if I find out.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You're assuming that she's sending a message. But sometimes people
just want to be by themselves. Drinking wine after a
long week. That's not a diss towards anybody, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
For you to for me to ask a woman out
to her face and for her to say maybe next
weekend says to me, you're trying to send me. You're
telling me because I'm like, what about brunch? What about
you know? What about? What about coffee? What about? This
doesn't have to be dinner. You don't have anything, you
can't do anything for eight days. I'm like, okay, well
(09:12):
this is how it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
But what does she tells you?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean, I'm sure I know the answer to this.
So she goes, I'm out of town for the week.
Obviously you're like, oh, that's different, okay, but she.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Didn't say that. She's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I got a date on Saturday, and then I don't know,
maybe next weekend. And then so automatically I'm like, okay,
so we're gonna so now I gotta sit around wait
to see how your date goes and maybe next weekend.
And then apparently I was supposed to keep chasing. I
was supposed to keep asking yes over and over again,
and I'm like, no, I gave you three options. You
said no to all three, told me next weekend balls
in your court? Now, yeah, you know what I mean? Like,
you would you respect me if I just kept asking
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over and over again go out with me? One?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Go out? You already know? You know?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So at what point are we talking about the your
perception of my value?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
If a guy's asking you out all the time, aren't
you like this guy's needy or something?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, yeah, you're think yeah all the time, and I'm
saying clearly I'm saying no at that point.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So yeah, Like I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And you could argue she didn't want to go out
with me, Well then just say don't give me your number,
you know in that case, Hey Ryan, Ray, how are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Hey man? You planned dates two weeks in advance? How
you do that?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I just I was just gonna suggest that if you
did that, then she'll be thinking, oh man, this this
guy bus. You ain't got lots of plans all the.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Time two weeks month.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I appreciate it, but yeah, I don't even know if
a woman would commit to sign she might two weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Thank you, Ryan, Have a good day. Yeah or something. Yeah,
he's a girl. There you go.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Here's a text. No games in dating. You're too old
for that. If someone is meant to progress, everyone pulls this.
That's another thing. I was talking to a friend of
mine that night, and it's like, if she liked you, she.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Would have figured it out. But maybe she did.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But instead it was like, this girl is young, but
this girl's really young, by the way, like midwe he's young,
and so yeah, and someone's like, she's not interested. I'm like,
I don't, maybe not. I guess not. I don't know
that matter to me. But I mean I would much
rather somebody just honestly, I'd rather be ghosted. I'd rather
somebody does not respond to me than than to hang
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me out there for weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I don't, right, Why don't you find another date until
next week?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I didn't. Don't you worried about?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You think you think I went home and just said
around no, yes, So I didn't do that marking off
the days in this calendar on four more days.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Calendar.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
He's got a big circle of it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
She probably maybe she's not interested. I don't know, I
guess not. It's easy enough to just say I'm seeing
someone you know, I don't know. There's a lot of
ways to get someone to stop asking or to say
that you don't want to go out with them without
saying I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Out with you. This proves my theory.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
This is a text that girls think that guys are
more complicated than they actually are, so we make things
complicated because we think you are more complicated. In the end,
we need to drop all the silly expectations and be honest.
I agree, Trust me, most guys are not thinking as
far into it as as you are. And I don't
mean it to make that a male female thing because
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I obviously have thought about this dynamic for ten days now.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I didn't get my way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But I think most people in the moment are just
they're just trying to get what they want. They just
they just you know, they're just going with it right
now and not thinking about, well, you know, if she
tells me no then or if she's I better say
no because I need to look into man and I
have plans, and men want me and women want me
and all this stuff. It's like, you know, what, if
you meet the right person, all that goes out the
(12:52):
window anyway, right, like if you're more excited, but then bye,
we're not married.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Hey, Kiki, we're not married. That's right. Single.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Maybe I have a new term for you guys today,
just in case, because I want to keep you up
to date all the time on all the different dating terminology.
It's very important. Do you believe any of you? Have
you ever been or are you being paper clipped?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
This is when an X reaches out just after you
got over them in order to then disappear again.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's called paper clipping.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's toxic because they mean to keep you on the
back burner and unbalanced. This is according to a clinical psychologist,
it's when someone has enough emotional intelligence to know what
they're doing, but they also have high manipulative tendencies and
a disregard for how the behaviors are affecting others. The
red flags of paper clipping being treated as if you're disposable,
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a lack of concern for your well being, having no
end goal in sight, sporadic, random and non meaningful conference.
This sounds like me, but except I don't have no
I don't have a lack. There's nothing sinister about it,
you know, I don't. I don't reach out to people
that i've I mean, but this is like, I think
this is people you had like a full on relationship with.
(14:04):
I think that's kind of messed up. If you had
a full on relationship and then the person gets over you,
but you're still hanging around, like there's real emotional baggage
that's still sort of lingering there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think that's messed up.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
If it's just casual, you just ignore the person, right,
If it's just casual and you hear from someone you
don't want to talk to, you just ignore them. I
was trying to tell someone this the other day. This
is this girl, she's young, mid twenties, feels like she
got screwed over by this guy, and she's, you know,
posting all these thirst traps and trying to come up
with all these different ways to, you know, do what
to say to him in response when he reaches out
(14:35):
again for sex or whatever. And I'm like, I got
an idea. Don't say a word, nothing, nothing, nothing nothing
drive And I know this for a I know this
is a guy who's been dating for twenty years. Nothing
drives someone more crazy than when you do not respond
to them. Yes, no words are all the words. And
I'm trying to tell her, but I want to tell him,
(14:56):
and I'm gonna do this. I'm going to like it's
it's so transparent.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Sounds like me.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I will fight till there's no fight left in me.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
But like they say that no response is a response,
and that actually from what I've heard from TikTok is,
you know it's my bible, they say that men respond
better to no response, like that'll make you go more
crazy as opposed to get exactly getting a long paragraph
that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Like if I if I'm seeing somebody and it doesn't
you know, that person's not happy with me, and then
all of a sudden she starts posting swimsuit photos or whatever.
I'm like, oh, not that I want to get to anyone.
I'm not trying to get to anyone. It's not it's
not sinister, it's not a purpose. But like then I know, like, oh,
I see what you're doing here, Like I see what's
going on. You know you have an upper hand in
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that way, even if you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And then but it's like sometimes you just got to
you just say nothing. Yes, works like a charm and.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It drives people crazy. So this paper clipping thing just
you don't allow it to happen. I guess you just
you just don't respond and then and then it's like
you can start blocking people. But I think when you
block people that also says something that old that I
think you don't block, you don't do anything. You just
don't say anything.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And keep living life like they never existed.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, it drives me nut's when it happens to me.
It drives me crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh gosh, okay, what does because it's like wait a minute,
Well no, it's like wait a minute. But on the
flip side, if I don't know why, sometimes people do
it and then you don't know necessary because again I
think this term is about Okay, you were in a relationship,
there was high emotion, you break up, that takes a
while to get over. You get over, and then this
person just keeps appearing. Now that's manipulative because it's like,
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you know what you're doing there if it's casual and
it just kind of you pop in and out because
that's always been the nature of the relationship. Then sometimes
when someone doesn't respond, you're like, well, wait a minute,
what did I do? You know what I mean, like,
what did I do to you? Like we didn't have
it was informal, So now all of a sudden, why
am I not worthy? But anyway, all this, all this
means is when you don't respond, people start thinking and
(16:54):
then you have the control.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's right. Yeah, I heard fewer words. It's not more worse.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So you want control, man, that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Uh No, I don't want to feel like I don't
have control though, if that makes sense, Okay, I don't
need control. I just I don't like the unknown, you
know what I mean, Like, I don't. I don't like
it when I mean, you're this way, So I think
it's the anxiety. Are you this way? When you like
if someone If you reach out to someone and they
don't respond to you in a period of time, you're like,
why why don't they respond to me?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, which is why I always respond no matter what.
I don't believe in not responding to people.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
But that's just me. Yeah, I like words.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That's what I'm saying though, is it's not a control thing.
It's it's just where do I stand? Even if it's
not good. I guess I'd rather know where I stand. Yeah,
but then you don't give me that. It's like Caitlin's
entertainer report is on.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
The Fresh Show, Kith and Jenner wasn't trying to fire
shots at Kim Kardashian when she said that Kim was
calculated and always had been with her move to fame,
and I think like no one was surprised.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I mean, I think that's pretty open. Kim has always
said I.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Wanted to be famous, I want wanted to be in
the magazines, like she was thirsty, let's just call a
spatus bata.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
But when Kaitlyn said.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
It, people thought, you know that they that Caitlyn.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Was coming for her.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And it's really that her comments in the promo were
really just a big, bigger part of a smaller part
of a bigger conversation.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
So here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Caitlyn's featured in the trailer for that upcoming DOCU series
House of Kardashian, which it's a British show. I can't
even speak today. I don't know if we can even
watch it. I'm looking, but it dives deep into the
family's rise to fame, and in the first look, which
came out last week, Caitlyn says that the quote was
kimberly calculated from the beginning, how do I become famous?
(18:40):
And while it seems like a dig I'm hearing that
the calculated.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Word wasn't the best choice.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
But it's already been related to Kim that she didn't
mean it as a diss and it's.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Part of a bigger conversation.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You know how with trailers they try to make things
look more salacious than they actually are, and they have spoken,
they're on good terms. Kim understands a bad at when
she sees one, and for the first time.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I mean, this is a series that the Kardashians don't.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Have control over the editing, so it may not go
their way. But she didn't mean it that way. And
I honestly thought she was just stating a fact, because
that is very true. You know, she wanted to be famous.
That's just a fact. The CEO of Adidas, this is interesting.
I don't know how to say Beyorn Golden. I don't
know that's his name, bjo r n Bejorn. He spoke
(19:26):
about Kanye West, saying the rapper and producer is not
a bad person. So I don't know why he felt
the need to say this. But remember Adidas cut their
ties with him after he made very very anti Semitic remarks.
So this dude, this Adida's dude, was on a podcast
and he said, when you work with third parties, that
can happen. It's part of the game. That can happen
with an athlete and entertainer. It's part of the business.
(19:47):
I think Kanye is one of the most creative people
in the world, which is true both in music and
I would call street culture.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
He's extremely creative.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
But then he was like asked specifically about those comments,
and he said, I don't think he met what he said,
and I don't think he's a bad person.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It just came across that way.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
That's kind of what I have an issue with because
he repeatedly said it, and you know, doubled down. So
I don't even know why you would cut ties with
someone if you don't, I don't know. It was like,
it was a very interesting thing to say.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I feel like he's just trying to say face because
I know they've lost it.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
They've lost a ton of money since he Yeah, of course,
and like I don't know any.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Other Adidas besides me, honestly, Yea, he's trying to help
the business.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
It's also not a good look for a German to
be like talking about anti semin Semitism in a way
that's like not, you know, fully against it.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I don't know. I just feel like I don't know
why he touched that, but he did.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
And I mean I don't I don't know that Kanye
is a bad person either. I just think he definitely
met it at the time, whatever the hell he was saying.
Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and Stephen Colbert have canceled a
live event as Jimmy has tested positive for COVID.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
We are seeing this everywhere. I mean, everyone is getting
sick now.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But Jimmy wrote, well, Las Vegas, I got COVID and
sadly we need to cancel this weekend's Strike for three show.
I could never live with myself if I got my
hometown friends sick. Thanks to all who purchase tickets, everyone
will get full refunds. We're going to try to reschedule
if possible. And Strike Force three is what they were
calling that podcast that they were doing for the writers' strike,
and they were also apparently going to do a live
(21:22):
event in Vegas this weekend. But Fred could have gone
and now he's going to have to skip it because
he could have done his impression of Jimmy Fallon for Jimmy,
which we need to click, so that would have been iconic.
More to check out online at Fredshow Radio dot com.
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