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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She's a fresh show. It's Kiki's court. Thanks. You guys
are the jury eight five, five, five, nine, one one
three five All rise the honorable Kinki Lee take it away.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, let's get into the courtroom. The gabble has been hit,
it says Kiki. My name is Dean. I'm a sophomore
at a religious university in the South. Since moving away
to school, my roommate was very helpful with getting me
adjusted to a new city. He introduced me to a
lot of people and one girl that I had the
biggest crush on. I would go to her job and
get coffee just to try to start a conversation with her,
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and I told my roommate how much I liked her. Well,
one night, I got the usual text from my roommate
to give me the heads up that he had that
he had company over. So I hung out in another
friend's room for a few hours. But when I finally
went back to the room, I was shocked to see
the girl that I was crushing on making the walk
of shame from our front door. I was so mad
in the moment, but I kept my mouth closed, so
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as payback, I took a photo of my roommate's liquor
stash and sent it to our ra Keep in mind
we live on a dry campus. My roommate end up
getting kicked out of school, damn, because it wasn't his
first time being caught with liquor.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I told him that the girl must have sent the photo.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I didn't mean for it to go this far, but
he betrayed me first.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
College over a girl.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yes, that he introduced you too.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I mean that's too far. Bruh, way too far. You
can't do it. Kick, What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, dean, I mean this in the nicest way, but
something is wrong upstairs. Okay, we gotta get you fixed,
because if you take it this far with your roommate
over a girl that doesn't want you or you don't
have a chance with, that's insane. You got this man
kicked out of school because you were upset that he
smashed a girl before.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You could what It wasn't even like I don't know
they were dating. The other two were datd The Dean's
the dude who got the dude kicked out? Yeah, the dude,
the dude, the dude. Every times say dude. So it
wasn't even Maybe if Dean had been dating the girl
and then she cheated with this guy, and maybe there's
some revenge to be had there. But even then, getting
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someone kicked out of school, that could have lifelong repercussions
for somebody, because then you try and go to apply
another school, or that somebody asked you why you didn't
graduate while I kicked out? You know, you could have
lost money. It probably did lose money in the deal.
I mean, that's that's a major thing to do over
a girl that you may have had zero chance with
exactly now.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean your homemade I mean, your roommate is kind
of you know, it's a little grimy. I told you
I liked this girl. You saw me trying to pursue her.
Maybe I don't have as much game as you. That's
not it's right, But it's a lot of other girls
on the campus that you could have, you know, kicked
it with.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Why you have to go get the girl that I like?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I understand you being upset, But in that moment to
be that vindictive where you took a photo and snitched
this man out and now he's kicked out of school,
you're still not even admitting to that that you did it.
You're telling him that you know the girl may have
sent the photo.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, but I want to be clear. The guy who
got the roommate kicked out had no claim to this girl, right.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, he just liked her, Like you know, you tell
me like he I like this person and then I
go date them.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, but unfortunately, like you can't. You can't claim people
like that like you. I do think it's messed up
when you say to a good friend like hey, I'm
interested in this person, they go pursue them. But you
also got to remember there's another person involved here, so
like you don't get to just you know, own people.
I've had that one happen before too, where it's like,
well you can't you can't go out with her because
of so and so. It's like, well she can make
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that decision, not you.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But isn't there some type of bro code you should
a bye bye?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's if that's if someone hooked up with someone else before,
Like if one of my friends is hooked up with
somebody before or dated, especially dated, then I need to
not or or I need to make sure that my
boy's okay with it, you know, to a certain extent.
If I intend to be friends with this guy anymore,
I will give it to Dean.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
There is some sort of bro code that says, you know,
if if Dean said to his friend, I like this
girl their that friend gotta give.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It some time Dean to to make his move to
see if Dean could to could could get this girl now.
But maybe maybe the other guy said to the girl, Hey,
my roommate likes you or whatever, and she's like, I
don't like him back. You know. Maybe maybe maybe he
said something to her and she's like, he has no show,
he has a chance.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
That boy gotta think his friend gotta tell Dean, or
Dean gotta find out for himself. You can't just say
if that girl knows I don't like Dean and be like,
all right, I'm in You gotta leg it's not that serious.
This is a very casual thing. And and the girl
chose another guy, or they chose each other.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Whatever. You don't go getting people kicked out of college
for that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, no, you should absolutely not do that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But I do think that there's some type of bro
code that was crossed here, because if I tell, you know, Caitln,
I really like Omrion girl, that's my dream man. And
then she end up with amar I'm gonna look at
her sideways whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Mm hm, well you, but you should also look at
omar on sideways forever in this scenario because he chose
her and that right, so they chose each other. So
it's not it's not all her fault that the dude
liked another girl, which you know, of course that would
never happen because O Marion is gonna walk in here
and fall in love with you and that you know
they would never Caitlyn would never do that to you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No, say, she would never do that because there's some
type of girl code there.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Right, Yeah, I would never do I would never do that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
She would never look up with to Marian.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You hear that, yes, But I'm just saying so in
this I give Dean a little bit of credit that
you know, the roommate did cross the borough code. However,
you cannot get people kicked out of school because you're
upset over a girl.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, does anyone disagree with this? Eight five
five five nine one three five A text so far,
way too far. You altered someone's life for a hookup. Gross,
I didn't even get my college roommate booted for taking
and sending photos of me sleeping. God, oh my god,
especially don't even know. It's a real mess.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Well, you just saw her leaving, you know what I'm saying.
Who knows what they did? You don't even know what
they did. They could have had a nice talk and
she fell as Now, now now that's exactly what happened.
You know better than that, Okay, he said.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He sent him the little courtesy text that you send
your roommate. Hey, I got company, and when he saw
his dream girl leaving the room, he decided to send them.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
This has happened to everybody. I feel like everybody's been
in a situation where they liked somebody and their and
their friend got with them. You know, whether it's uh,
you know, I don't know. I can remember in college
I liked the girl and then almost exact same scenario happened.
Like I walk out of my fraternity room, you know,
at whatever time on a Saturday morning, and out comes
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the girl I like, out of another room, and it's like,
I mean, it sucks, but I don't. You don't own
these people like that. Everyone's it's free, will you know,
like she chose him, and I don't. I don't think
that the question would be did the other guy go
out and pursue the girl simply because his friend wanted her?
That's now that's messed up. But if two people choose
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each other and it's not the way you wanted to go,
it doesn't mean you could sabotage their whole life.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, you can't. But do you?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm to look confused about this bro code thing with you,
So you where's your code friend?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But you can't look if I went to you and
be like, yo, I really like Sally and.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Then Sally, Sally is fine to She's very nice.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I like her a lot, and I tell you that,
and then you go and hook up with Sally without
ever you know, without ever saying, without ever telling talking
to me or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's crossing bro code. But the thing is, if you
sit to me, I like Sally, and then I don't
do anything really and Sally, and Sally expresses interest in me,
you have to know. You know that I like her,
but I don't. You's got to be said that. But
so long as I'm not out, you're pursuing this woman
aggressively after you told me that you wanted to get
with her. I shot up to me whether she likes
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me better than you, but you got to say something,
so I just I just can't get with a girl
because you've you've essentially pete on her already.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
No, I'm just saying, but like if Sally, if you.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I meant that uh metaphor.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
But there's still code there if if she said something
to like, if she starts pursuing you, you got to
be like, yo, you know my friend likes you, or
mentally in your mind, be like, I can't do this
right now because he.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Likes I've had that happen too before. You walk into
a bar and you know a guy in the groups
like I like her. It's like, okay, but first of all,
you've never spoken to her, know anything about her. Well,
that's kind of the same.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I mean that's a random bart like I don't want
to It's not like it's not like where the bro
code comes in for me, is if you actually had
something with someone, then I need to be careful.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
How I How I again, you look up with somebody
one time where you just say I like her, not
I I can't see that person. But you don't own anybody.
You can't just be. You can't just do that. You
can't be. Oh, I like all these girls, so that
my friends can't come with any of them. You can't
do that.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Friend is telling you, I like this girl. You got
to give him some time to try to pursue this girl.
You also don't get your boy kicked out of college either.
I mean, come on, Ashley, how are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Good?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
How are you good morning? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
How I handle this?
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Dean might be crazy? See, I agree with me. He
Dean is totally crazy. And it was a casual hook up.
It takes two to tango. You couldn't do something petty
like I don't know, with a girl he likes, or
a sister or something. But to get him kicked out
of college, that's a little too far. That's that's beyond petty.
That's really vindictive and crazy. And usually when people get
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kicked out of college sometimes you can't get rolled in
another college.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, that's that's really drastic.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
But he really messed up his life over a casual
hooked up.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, I just this whole I don't know. Our
definition of bro code differs.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
I think if you were either dating that person, yes,
or you know it was mutual that both of you
liked each other and then he stole you from her. No,
Bean might need to.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Do it like Steeler. There's gotta be a little more
to it for bro code to come into play, because
I don't think I also don't think it's cool for
you to be getting revenge on me because a girl
likes me better than you. That's then on top of.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
That, it's even more psychiatic because you know own I
took that you did it, you're gonna blame it on
the girls, so now you're going to cash.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
This guy is weak all around. He's not even taking
responsibility for his own revenge. That's that's why I don't
have a lot of sympathy for this meda. This dude
sounds like a little bee. He sounds like a little
like a little bee. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Sound like he needs some medical profession.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He might need that because we got layers here. First
of all, this dude the girl didn't like him. He
believes that he's entitled to another human being, which he
is not. And then on top of all that, he
went and did something very spiteful to the person who
technically won the girl in what seems like a very
casual sort of courtship, and on top of that, he
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won't even own the fact that he did it. Yeah,
at least say I did it. So this guy's a
bee on like four times four times a b oh god,
So I don't have any respect for this guy. At
least be like, yeah, I did that. You crossed me,
Like I told you I liked her, You went after
her anyway, I got you kicked out of school, Like
I'm you know, I mean, at least be a boss
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about it. Make responsibility, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yes, yes, but we all know how it feels when
you see your friend take somebody you like.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But that sucks, and a lot of things in life suck.
It doesn't mean you get retribution. People make each other
feel bad sometimes, like you don't know, you don't get
everything you want, Like it's just I mean, I'm sorry,
Like your crush doesn't automatically like you just because they're
your crush, And just because they're your crush doesn't mean
that you you get to prevent anyone you know from
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being with them. Well, according to your bro code, you
get whatever you want for it. I would argue there's
gonna be a little history. Rubio was constantly trying to
get with the girls. Hey, Kassie, I'm making that episode.
Hey Kassie, good morning.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Hey what did you What do you think? What do
you want to say?
Speaker 8 (12:39):
So?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean it kind of sounds like they both maybe
don't have the best friendship, like if he's been caught
with like liquor on the drag campus and stuff like that.
But I mean, but what if he like genuinely didn't
know that he was going to get kicked out of school,
Like what if he didn't get kicked out, and you
know he still lives there. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I still don't. I don't like them. I don't
like I mean, it sucks. We've all been there where
we like someone who didn't like us back and maybe
like someone that we know. But we don't own people,
and you don't get to just sabotage people's lives because
you didn't get with the one girl.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But like she said, he didn't meant for him to
get kicked out. What did you think was gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Just wanted to get him in trouble?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right, Cassie, thank you for listening. Have a great day.
Glad you called. Hey, Johnny, Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Brett A just want to say I love the show.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Thank you to you guys every morning. Thank you. We
love you too. Now you have an argument here that
bro co doesn't apply here, which I would agree with.
Now why what?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (13:38):
I don't think because it's not like they were going
on dates and stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
It wasn't too mutual yet.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
I mean his friend maybe should have been more open
with him about it. And but like, yo, you know
that girl came over. I kind of you know, we
did the dirty, right, But I don't think you should
have got him kicked out.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
That's across the line.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Definitely, they would have probably pursued his sister or something,
you know, maybe even that way.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
But like Johnny, if you were could come to me
and say you like some girl and I end up
hooking up with her, you wouldn't get mad.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That that's okay.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Oh I get mad, but I wouldn't try to get
you kicked out.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I'm just saying there's code there, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
There's a bro code there that I shouldn't pursue this
girl because I know you like her, well.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Johnny said the cody is he gonna get.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
With your sister?
Speaker 9 (14:29):
Definitely not be you know, knarking on him.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I don't like this. Did this dude? And then
he won't even take credit for his own set, exactly
own up to.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
It, tell him like, yeah, bro, that was my bad.
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's week. It's weak all around. Hey, Johnny, thank you,
have a great day.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Hey you true can't wait to see you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Alaa man, Yes, sir, Johnny, Hey, Alex.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Hey, good morning.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
How are you guys? Wait a minute, and why are good?
Fred has to be a horrible heart rble wing man
if he doesn't agree with bur code. No again, I
do agree with bro code. What I don't agree with
is you don't get to stay claim on humans like
I'm sorry. And again, if it's a matter of I
like that girl.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
That's not seeking claim on somebody, I like that girl,
don't talk to her, don't don't approach.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You're arguing you should. He was just telling her I
like this girl. Okay. The friend should have been like, well,
by the way, I understand that we don't know how
much time transpired here either, For all we know and Alex,
I want to hear what you have to say. But
for all we know, this has been this was weeks
and months in the making. We don't know this. This
may not have been as simple as I like her
and then his friend goes me too. And then, by
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the way, I have a right to like a girl too,
and the girl has a right to choose, and if
she chooses, I mean that that can't come in the
way of our friendship.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know, friend.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, if I tell you I like the girl on
Tuesday and then two months from now you messing with
her on a Wednesday, I'm still going to be mad.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That is not fair. She's been a good wigman and
hyped you up, you know. Okay, So anyone that Rufio says,
any girl he says he likes, I can never in
my life speak to her.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
And he prosus me not saying that. I'm just saying
that there is a timeframe. Yes, there's a time frame.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah I'm not. If I'm not. If I don't got
the game to land the girl, and that's known, then
what's the timeframe? Right? Because now you agree with what
if we don't know how long? We don't know how
long this pursuit has been going on. It's a timeframe.
Maybe he's had plenty of time to shoot his shot
and this girl just isn't interested. That's not my fault. Okay,
and again I've been on both sides of this, so
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I you know again, I can't fault my friends. If
a girl likes one of my friends better I could.
I can fault my friend if at the exact same time,
I go I like that girl, and then he immediately
goes and tries to get with her.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
But what I can't fault my friend for is if
I say I like that girl, I try, she's not interested,
and she chooses my friend, which may have happened here.
We don't know the timeframe. Alex, what did you want
to say? Good morning? I'm sorry, no, good morning.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I just wanted to let you guys know that back
in high school I had a friend.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
And I say had because they are no longer in
my life.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
But I told him, I'm like, hey, man, I'm very
interested in this girl, Like, is there any way you
could possibly keep.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
It in your pants?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Knowing you as the player, but you know, me having
no game.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
I told him, I'm like, hey, well, she's taking a
pity date on me, to which I ended up finding
out that she canceled, and coincidentally enough, my friend canceled
the hang.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Out that day.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
I got.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Yeah, she ended up posting a snapchat of herself past
dressed in the room that looked awfully too familiar.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh wow, she posted a sexy shot from this room.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, did you get revenge?
Speaker 10 (17:54):
That was like a public advertisement that she was already
taken or what. But I took it as I took
it as a war shot. So what ended up happening
was I actually I got with this guy's mom.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That is one way to handle that American pie. Yeah, exactly. Wow.
And did you find out? No?
Speaker 10 (18:21):
I mean if if anybody were to find out, they
would probably find out about it on the radio today.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Wow. Okay, well that is one way to get revenge.
Thank you, alex Epic. Have a good day. See this
text here. Fred doesn't understand other people's feelings. I'm wrong again.
You can't just point people out and go that one,
that one that won, that one off limits for the
rest of your life. But he didn't say that, what
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are you talking about? That exactly what he said. And
then when he was defied. Yeah, he got a guy
kicked out of college and changed the trajectory of his life.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's exactly what he mean. And that's what I would do.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And that is not right.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, it's not right. But it seems like he was
pursuing her. That's the friends.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He was going to her coffee shop, right, Yeah, you're
trying to get her.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
He was stalking this girl. I'm just all I'm saying
is other. There's another person involved here. It's the girl,
and she has a she has free will.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But you have my friend cannot do that just because
of our relationship.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Have you ever had a friend in your friend group
who likes everybody all the time? Oh? Yes, And what
are you supposed to do about that? Just everybody they
point out and like, whether they're liked back or not,
you just can't that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
But he has like everybody, he liked this one girl.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
If you are if you're my boy, and you're like,
I'm so into this girl, yes, I am not pursuing
that person. I'm not like and you're trying, and you're trying,
and there's a chance I might never because but at
the same time, there are so many variables here. That
we don't know about. And again you just pointed out
this duty is stalking this woman at work. I mean
he has no chance. Oh my god, he never had
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a chance. You want, He's never had a chance, Okay,
and then on time up of that, he goes out
and does a B thing and won't even take credit
for being the b I'm sorry. I don't like it.
I don't like it. I don't I don't feel bad
for this stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I don't
She's a fresh show. It's Kiki's court. Thanks. You guys
are the jury eight five, five, five, nine, one one
three five All rise the honorable Kinki Lee take it away.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, let's get into the courtroom. The gabble has been hit,
it says Kiki. My name is Dean. I'm a sophomore
at a religious university in the South. Since moving away
to school, my roommate was very helpful with getting me
adjusted to a new city. He introduced me to a
lot of people and one girl that I had the
biggest crush on. I would go to her job and
get coffee just to try to start a conversation with her,
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and I told my roommate how much I liked her. Well,
one night, I got the usual text from my roommate
to give me the heads up that he had that
he had company over. So I hung out in another
friend's room for a few hours. But when I finally
went back to the room, I was shocked to see
the girl that I was crushing on making the walk
of shame from our front door. I was so mad
in the moment, but I kept my mouth closed, so
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as payback, I took a photo of my roommate's liquor
stash and sent it to our ra Keep in mind
we live on a dry campus. My roommate end up
getting kicked out of school, damn, because it wasn't his
first time being caught with liquor.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I told him that the girl must have sent the photo.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I didn't mean for it to go this far, but
he betrayed me first.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
College over a girl.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yes, that he introduced you too.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I mean that's too far. Bruh, way too far. You
can't do it. Kick, What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, dean, I mean this in the nicest way, but
something is wrong upstairs. Okay, we gotta get you fixed,
because if you take it this far with your roommate
over a girl that doesn't want you or you don't
have a chance with, that's insane. You got this man
kicked out of school because you were upset that he
smashed a girl before.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You could what It wasn't even like I don't know
they were dating. The other two were datd The Dean's
the dude who got the dude kicked out? Yeah, the dude,
the dude, the dude. Every times say dude. So it
wasn't even Maybe if Dean had been dating the girl
and then she cheated with this guy, and maybe there's
some revenge to be had there. But even then, getting
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someone kicked out of school, that could have lifelong repercussions
for somebody, because then you try and go to apply
another school, or that somebody asked you why you didn't
graduate while I kicked out? You know, you could have
lost money. It probably did lose money in the deal.
I mean, that's that's a major thing to do over
a girl that you may have had zero chance with
exactly now.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean your homemade I mean, your roommate is kind
of you know, it's a little grimy. I told you
I liked this girl. You saw me trying to pursue her.
Maybe I don't have as much game as you. That's
not it's right, But it's a lot of other girls
on the campus that you could have, you know, kicked
it with.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Why you have to go get the girl that I like?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I understand you being upset, But in that moment to
be that vindictive where you took a photo and snitched
this man out and now he's kicked out of school,
you're still not even admitting to that that you did it.
You're telling him that you know the girl may have
sent the photo.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, but I want to be clear. The guy who
got the roommate kicked out had no claim to this girl, right.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, he just liked her, Like you know, you tell
me like he I like this person and then I
go date them.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, but unfortunately, like you can't. You can't claim people
like that like you. I do think it's messed up
when you say to a good friend like hey, I'm
interested in this person, they go pursue them. But you
also got to remember there's another person involved here, so
like you don't get to just you know, own people.
I've had that one happen before too, where it's like,
well you can't you can't go out with her because
of so and so. It's like, well she can make
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that decision, not you.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But isn't there some type of bro code you should
a bye bye?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's if that's if someone hooked up with someone else before,
Like if one of my friends is hooked up with
somebody before or dated, especially dated, then I need to
not or or I need to make sure that my
boy's okay with it, you know, to a certain extent.
If I intend to be friends with this guy anymore,
I will give it to Dean.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
There is some sort of bro code that says, you know,
if if Dean said to his friend, I like this
girl their that friend gotta give.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It some time Dean to to make his move to
see if Dean could to could could get this girl now.
But maybe maybe the other guy said to the girl, Hey,
my roommate likes you or whatever, and she's like, I
don't like him back. You know. Maybe maybe maybe he
said something to her and she's like, he has no show,
he has a chance.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
That boy gotta think his friend gotta tell Dean, or
Dean gotta find out for himself. You can't just say
if that girl knows I don't like Dean and be like,
all right, I'm in You gotta leg it's not that serious.
This is a very casual thing. And and the girl
chose another guy, or they chose each other.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Whatever. You don't go getting people kicked out of college
for that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, no, you should absolutely not do that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But I do think that there's some type of bro
code that was crossed here, because if I tell, you know, Caitln,
I really like Omrion girl, that's my dream man. And
then she end up with amar I'm gonna look at
her sideways whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Mm hm, well you, but you should also look at
omar on sideways forever in this scenario because he chose
her and that right, so they chose each other. So
it's not it's not all her fault that the dude
liked another girl, which you know, of course that would
never happen because O Marion is gonna walk in here
and fall in love with you and that you know
they would never Caitlyn would never do that to you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No, say, she would never do that because there's some
type of girl code there.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Right, Yeah, I would never do I would never do that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
She would never look up with to Marian.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You hear that, yes, But I'm just saying so in
this I give Dean a little bit of credit that
you know, the roommate did cross the borough code. However,
you cannot get people kicked out of school because you're
upset over a girl.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, does anyone disagree with this? Eight five
five five nine one three five A text so far,
way too far. You altered someone's life for a hookup. Gross,
I didn't even get my college roommate booted for taking
and sending photos of me sleeping. God, oh my god,
especially don't even know. It's a real mess.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Well, you just saw her leaving, you know what I'm saying.
Who knows what they did? You don't even know what
they did. They could have had a nice talk and
she fell as Now, now now that's exactly what happened.
You know better than that, Okay, he said.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He sent him the little courtesy text that you send
your roommate. Hey, I got company, and when he saw
his dream girl leaving the room, he decided to send them.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
This has happened to everybody. I feel like everybody's been
in a situation where they liked somebody and their and
their friend got with them. You know, whether it's uh,
you know, I don't know. I can remember in college
I liked the girl and then almost exact same scenario happened.
Like I walk out of my fraternity room, you know,
at whatever time on a Saturday morning, and out comes
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the girl I like, out of another room, and it's like,
I mean, it sucks, but I don't. You don't own
these people like that. Everyone's it's free, will you know,
like she chose him, and I don't. I don't think
that the question would be did the other guy go
out and pursue the girl simply because his friend wanted her?
That's now that's messed up. But if two people choose
(07:08):
each other and it's not the way you wanted to go,
it doesn't mean you could sabotage their whole life.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, you can't. But do you?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm to look confused about this bro code thing with you,
So you where's your code friend?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But you can't look if I went to you and
be like, yo, I really like Sally and.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Then Sally, Sally is fine to She's very nice.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I like her a lot, and I tell you that,
and then you go and hook up with Sally without
ever you know, without ever saying, without ever telling talking
to me or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's crossing bro code. But the thing is, if you
sit to me, I like Sally, and then I don't
do anything really and Sally, and Sally expresses interest in me,
you have to know. You know that I like her,
but I don't. You's got to be said that. But
so long as I'm not out, you're pursuing this woman
aggressively after you told me that you wanted to get
with her. I shot up to me whether she likes
(08:06):
me better than you, but you got to say something,
so I just I just can't get with a girl
because you've you've essentially pete on her already.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
No, I'm just saying, but like if Sally, if you.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I meant that uh metaphor.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
But there's still code there if if she said something
to like, if she starts pursuing you, you got to
be like, yo, you know my friend likes you, or
mentally in your mind, be like, I can't do this
right now because he.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Likes I've had that happen too before. You walk into
a bar and you know a guy in the groups
like I like her. It's like, okay, but first of all,
you've never spoken to her, know anything about her. Well,
that's kind of the same.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I mean that's a random bart like I don't want
to It's not like it's not like where the bro
code comes in for me, is if you actually had
something with someone, then I need to be careful.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
How I How I again, you look up with somebody
one time where you just say I like her, not
I I can't see that person. But you don't own anybody.
You can't just be. You can't just do that. You
can't be. Oh, I like all these girls, so that
my friends can't come with any of them. You can't
do that.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Friend is telling you, I like this girl. You got
to give him some time to try to pursue this girl.
You also don't get your boy kicked out of college either.
I mean, come on, Ashley, how are you doing? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Good?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
How are you good morning? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
How I handle this?
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Dean might be crazy? See, I agree with me. He
Dean is totally crazy. And it was a casual hook up.
It takes two to tango. You couldn't do something petty
like I don't know, with a girl he likes, or
a sister or something. But to get him kicked out
of college, that's a little too far. That's that's beyond petty.
That's really vindictive and crazy. And usually when people get
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kicked out of college sometimes you can't get rolled in
another college.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, that's that's really drastic.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
But he really messed up his life over a casual
hooked up.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, I just this whole I don't know. Our
definition of bro code differs.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
I think if you were either dating that person, yes,
or you know it was mutual that both of you
liked each other and then he stole you from her. No,
Bean might need to.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Do it like Steeler. There's gotta be a little more
to it for bro code to come into play, because
I don't think I also don't think it's cool for
you to be getting revenge on me because a girl
likes me better than you. That's then on top of.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
That, it's even more psychiatic because you know own I
took that you did it, you're gonna blame it on
the girls, so now you're going to cash.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
This guy is weak all around. He's not even taking
responsibility for his own revenge. That's that's why I don't
have a lot of sympathy for this meda. This dude
sounds like a little bee. He sounds like a little
like a little bee. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Sound like he needs some medical profession.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He might need that because we got layers here. First
of all, this dude the girl didn't like him. He
believes that he's entitled to another human being, which he
is not. And then on top of all that, he
went and did something very spiteful to the person who
technically won the girl in what seems like a very
casual sort of courtship, and on top of that, he
(11:24):
won't even own the fact that he did it. Yeah,
at least say I did it. So this guy's a
bee on like four times four times a b oh god,
So I don't have any respect for this guy. At
least be like, yeah, I did that. You crossed me,
Like I told you I liked her, You went after
her anyway, I got you kicked out of school, Like
I'm you know, I mean, at least be a boss
(11:45):
about it. Make responsibility, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yes, yes, but we all know how it feels when
you see your friend take somebody you like.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But that sucks, and a lot of things in life suck.
It doesn't mean you get retribution. People make each other
feel bad sometimes, like you don't know, you don't get
everything you want, Like it's just I mean, I'm sorry,
Like your crush doesn't automatically like you just because they're
your crush, And just because they're your crush doesn't mean
that you you get to prevent anyone you know from
(12:14):
being with them. Well, according to your bro code, you
get whatever you want for it. I would argue there's
gonna be a little history. Rubio was constantly trying to
get with the girls. Hey, Kassie, I'm making that episode.
Hey Kassie, good morning.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Hey what did you What do you think? What do
you want to say?
Speaker 8 (12:39):
So?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean it kind of sounds like they both maybe
don't have the best friendship, like if he's been caught
with like liquor on the drag campus and stuff like that.
But I mean, but what if he like genuinely didn't
know that he was going to get kicked out of school,
Like what if he didn't get kicked out, and you
know he still lives there. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I still don't. I don't like them. I don't
like I mean, it sucks. We've all been there where
we like someone who didn't like us back and maybe
like someone that we know. But we don't own people,
and you don't get to just sabotage people's lives because
you didn't get with the one girl.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But like she said, he didn't meant for him to
get kicked out. What did you think was gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Just wanted to get him in trouble?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right, Cassie, thank you for listening. Have a great day.
Glad you called. Hey, Johnny, Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Brett A just want to say I love the show.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Thank you to you guys every morning. Thank you. We
love you too. Now you have an argument here that
bro co doesn't apply here, which I would agree with.
Now why what?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (13:38):
I don't think because it's not like they were going
on dates and stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
It wasn't too mutual yet.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
I mean his friend maybe should have been more open
with him about it. And but like, yo, you know
that girl came over. I kind of you know, we
did the dirty, right, But I don't think you should
have got him kicked out.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
That's across the line.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Definitely, they would have probably pursued his sister or something,
you know, maybe even that way.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
But like Johnny, if you were could come to me
and say you like some girl and I end up
hooking up with her, you wouldn't get mad.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That that's okay.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Oh I get mad, but I wouldn't try to get
you kicked out.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I'm just saying there's code there, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
There's a bro code there that I shouldn't pursue this
girl because I know you like her, well.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Johnny said the cody is he gonna get.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
With your sister?
Speaker 9 (14:29):
Definitely not be you know, knarking on him.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, I don't like this. Did this dude? And then
he won't even take credit for his own set, exactly
own up to.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
It, tell him like, yeah, bro, that was my bad.
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's week. It's weak all around. Hey, Johnny, thank you,
have a great day.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Hey you true can't wait to see you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Alaa man, Yes, sir, Johnny, Hey, Alex.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Hey, good morning.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
How are you guys? Wait a minute, and why are good?
Fred has to be a horrible heart rble wing man
if he doesn't agree with bur code. No again, I
do agree with bro code. What I don't agree with
is you don't get to stay claim on humans like
I'm sorry. And again, if it's a matter of I
like that girl.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
That's not seeking claim on somebody, I like that girl,
don't talk to her, don't don't approach.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You're arguing you should. He was just telling her I
like this girl. Okay. The friend should have been like, well,
by the way, I understand that we don't know how
much time transpired here either, For all we know and Alex,
I want to hear what you have to say. But
for all we know, this has been this was weeks
and months in the making. We don't know this. This
may not have been as simple as I like her
and then his friend goes me too. And then, by
(15:40):
the way, I have a right to like a girl too,
and the girl has a right to choose, and if
she chooses, I mean that that can't come in the
way of our friendship.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know, friend.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, if I tell you I like the girl on
Tuesday and then two months from now you messing with
her on a Wednesday, I'm still going to be mad.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That is not fair. She's been a good wigman and
hyped you up, you know. Okay, So anyone that Rufio says,
any girl he says he likes, I can never in
my life speak to her.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
And he prosus me not saying that. I'm just saying
that there is a timeframe. Yes, there's a time frame.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah I'm not. If I'm not. If I don't got
the game to land the girl, and that's known, then
what's the timeframe? Right? Because now you agree with what
if we don't know how long? We don't know how
long this pursuit has been going on. It's a timeframe.
Maybe he's had plenty of time to shoot his shot
and this girl just isn't interested. That's not my fault. Okay,
and again I've been on both sides of this, so
(16:36):
I you know again, I can't fault my friends. If
a girl likes one of my friends better I could.
I can fault my friend if at the exact same time,
I go I like that girl, and then he immediately
goes and tries to get with her.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
But what I can't fault my friend for is if
I say I like that girl, I try, she's not interested,
and she chooses my friend, which may have happened here.
We don't know the timeframe. Alex, what did you want
to say? Good morning? I'm sorry, no, good morning.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I just wanted to let you guys know that back
in high school I had a friend.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
And I say had because they are no longer in
my life.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
But I told him, I'm like, hey, man, I'm very
interested in this girl, Like, is there any way you
could possibly keep.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
It in your pants?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Knowing you as the player, but you know, me having
no game.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
I told him, I'm like, hey, well, she's taking a
pity date on me, to which I ended up finding
out that she canceled, and coincidentally enough, my friend canceled
the hang.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Out that day.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
I got.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Yeah, she ended up posting a snapchat of herself past
dressed in the room that looked awfully too familiar.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh wow, she posted a sexy shot from this room.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, did you get revenge?
Speaker 10 (17:54):
That was like a public advertisement that she was already
taken or what. But I took it as I took
it as a war shot. So what ended up happening
was I actually I got with this guy's mom.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That is one way to handle that American pie. Yeah, exactly. Wow.
And did you find out? No?
Speaker 10 (18:21):
I mean if if anybody were to find out, they
would probably find out about it on the radio today.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Wow. Okay, well that is one way to get revenge.
Thank you, alex Epic. Have a good day. See this
text here. Fred doesn't understand other people's feelings. I'm wrong again.
You can't just point people out and go that one,
that one that won, that one off limits for the
rest of your life. But he didn't say that, what
(18:46):
are you talking about? That exactly what he said. And
then when he was defied. Yeah, he got a guy
kicked out of college and changed the trajectory of his life.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That's exactly what he mean. And that's what I would do.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And that is not right.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, it's not right. But it seems like he was
pursuing her. That's the friends.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He was going to her coffee shop, right, Yeah, you're
trying to get her.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
He was stalking this girl. I'm just all I'm saying
is other. There's another person involved here. It's the girl,
and she has a she has free will.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But you have my friend cannot do that just because
of our relationship.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Have you ever had a friend in your friend group
who likes everybody all the time? Oh? Yes, And what
are you supposed to do about that? Just everybody they
point out and like, whether they're liked back or not,
you just can't that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
But he has like everybody, he liked this one girl.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
If you are if you're my boy, and you're like,
I'm so into this girl, yes, I am not pursuing
that person. I'm not like and you're trying, and you're trying,
and there's a chance I might never because but at
the same time, there are so many variables here. That
we don't know about. And again you just pointed out
this duty is stalking this woman at work. I mean
he has no chance. Oh my god, he never had
(19:56):
a chance. You want, He's never had a chance, Okay,
and then on time up of that, he goes out
and does a B thing and won't even take credit
for being the b I'm sorry. I don't like it.
I don't like it. I don't I don't feel bad
for this stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I don't
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