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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Order of a fresh show it all right, honorable, take
it over.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, let's get in the courtroom. The gavel has
been hit. It says, hey, ki ki, am I wrong
for not lying to my brother about what really happened
at his fiance's bachelor party. My brother is getting married
in July. However, he just called off the wedding because
I told him the truth about what really happened at
my future sister in law's bachelorette party, and now I
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feel bad. A week ago, I attended the bachelorette party,
and although I helped plan the evening, I was not
a part of the team that hired the strippers. Her
sister decided to surprise the bride with two exotic dancers,
one male and one female. As you can imagine, you know, yeah, yeah,
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as you can imagine, the party got wild, so wild
that the night ended with my sister in law hooking
up with the female exotic dancer. The woman actually spent
the night with us at the Airbnb, and I saw
her do the walk of shame the next morning from
my sister in law's bedroom. Well, my brother texts me
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and asked me how did the night go?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Various various different answers. Yeah, different, different for different folks.
This evening, I told him.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
She said, I told him the truth, and he lost it.
He called off the wedding, and now I feel like
a terrible person, and my entire family is mad at
me for telling him.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Was I wrong? No?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I mean there are one hundred layers of issues here.
We had a lot of things going on. But judge, Kiky,
what say you? I mean, it's your it's your thing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm a girl's girl until it comes to my brothers.
Not gonna lie, you know what I'm saying. Hey, I
we those are my brothers. So if I'm a part
of your bridal party, you want to be a freak,
you need to let me go home because I'm snitching.
I'm sorry, especially if he asked me. If he didn't
ask me, I still would have told him. But hey,
the point that he asked me, how the night went? Hey,
I think you should know that you're marrying a little
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freak before you know. And look, you could be into
what you're into. Some couples are into it together. But
I need to at least tell my brother and then
however he reacts is how he reacts. Now, I hate
that he called the wetting off. We then bought these
bridesmaids dresses and Dames Bridle, all this stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I can't live. I shouldn't have to live with that.
You can't, I shouldn't. Don't do that. Like that's sloppy.
If you're gonna do something like that, don't do that
in front of a sibling.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, like there's familial obligation. Yeah, Kalyn, I was sorry.
I didn't mean to cull you off.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I would probably give them the opportunity to tell my brother,
oh four, That's the only thing I would have done differently.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh so you'd say, like, look, I give you a week,
like you'd handle this.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I can't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I shouldn't have to live with that. Last rested up,
like you need to go. You got you had a week.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, craah, times up. You let the ladies spend the
night you didn't like you. This is so sloppy on
so many levels. And I know some people say what
happens at a bachelor right weekend or a bachelor stays there.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Not when it's my brother. No, sorry, I'm here for
three five.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I guess the question really is, was this woman
obligated to keep this secret? Right?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's apt she's a member of the bridal party, she's
at the bachelorette park. Sloppy there, you're doing this in
front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
In front of everybody, because you know how I feel
about it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know how I feel if you are truly self
aware enough to recognize it that you cheated and it
was a one time deal and they were extenuating circuit
extenuating circumstances and you screwed up and you were drunk
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm not saying these are excuses.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You get to live with that, But I'm saying if
you mess up one time then and no one else
knows about it but you and the other person, and
you're never gonna see the other person again, and then I, honestly.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I think you have to live with that.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I don't think you go ruin somebody else's life because
you betrayed them.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But if you're gonna be sloppy.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Enough to do it in front of a bunch of
other people, then I don't know why it's to them
to have to keep your secret. That is not cool
to do to your friends. No, you know, like if
I had a friend who was just openly cheating on
his wife and I'm around for this and I'm friends
with both of them, I would say something.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I'd be like, we can't.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm not doing this with you, Like I don't need
to be culpable, because here's the problem, Like I don't
know what the rules are and I don't know what
the thing is. And then someday she can find out
that that I knew that you were doing this, and
now I'm as bad as you are almost now, Like,
don't put me in that spot.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I have been on Bachelor at parties where there have
been let's say, a stripper or two, and we were
somewhere and the bride to be gets a dance that
the future husband.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Would not be happy with.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Right now, there's no cheating, no nothing, but we know that,
like the husband.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Would not be happy. I'm not talking about that again.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You never tell then, you know, No, you keep those
videos on your phone and you girls laugh in a
group chat and it never makes it topic the video.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
There's no video. No, we have video. I have a video, yeah,
and I will never show it, never, never.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, but if you actually sleep with somebody that. I mean, hey, right,
and the way she probably did, she probably thought like, oh,
it's a woman, maybe he won't be mad, right, you know,
it's not a big deal because it's a one.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No he said it was a big deal. No, cheating
is cheating sucks. Cheating is cheering even quiet?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Oh yeah, no, I mean I once you cheat in
front of me, like I'm telling everyone, like.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Everyone everyone involved. Oh wow, I'll keep that in mind.
Not even not even just people.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Involved, everybody, No, especially if you everyone's being told, but
if you're that stupid and blatant to do it like
in front of your friends. And I'm sure there were
some of her own family there, like you're just dominant.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Layer and that's just inconsiderate and none cool. But family
is another thing, Like that's what doing Like how comfortable
do you think you are?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Here?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I think that's another valuable lesson about in laws,
right because at the end of the day, I love
my sister in law down, you know, I love her
like a sister. But when if it come down, that's
my brother, you know, my brother.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, and that's the thing. Why are you making me
have to live with this too? So now I get
to betray my sibling too. Right now, I know I
didn't do it, But if I saw it and know
about it, and then ten years from now it comes out.
Oh and by the way, Fred, he was there, he
saw it. Really, you let me do all this life
with this individual who did this terrible thing to me
and you didn't say anything. Now you could argue, Look,
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I wanted to stay out of it, like I honestly
it's none of my business, Like this is between you two.
I don't know, but I don't think that would fly.
I don't think that would fly. So I'm not willing
to lose my familial relationship over your indiscretion. No, I
am not not happening, hey, Robin, Hi Hi.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think that the flip side to this is if
the tables were turned, Like she's really not going to
be mad if she thought, you know what I mean,
Like if her if her brother was at his bachelor
party and he went home with either sex and male
or female and the same thing happened, you were going
to say that she wouldn't call off the wedding and
be completely but her about it too, Like that's the part.
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She's only mad because she got caught, not because she's
not looking at it from the perspective if he would
have done it, what would I have done?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, you would not have that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean we're not even talking about that because right right,
But of course if it had been the other way
around and she'd walk, then it would have been understanding.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So I'm with Kaitlin, either you tell or I'm going
to tell for you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I liked that that that's the plan that I think
it works well because it's like, look, I'm giving you
the option to do this your way.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The only time that backfires is if you're somehow involved
and then they decided to change the story up because
I've heard about this happening where they get a little
crafty with the story and then somehow winds up in
your face and you're like, now, wait a minute, holdout
a second, because they're you know, they want to get
you out of the picture because so somehow it was
your fault and then you wind up I've heard of
this happening before. That's the only problem with letting somebody
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with giving them the ultimatum, Hey, you either have to
tell the truth I will, because sometimes it winds up
where like you now it's your word against somebody else, right, Frank, Ye, so.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Drunk and lit, you know, giving me drinks and next thing,
you know, and he didn't stop us.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
You know, he knew that lady was in the room
with me and he didn't stop it then.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And now you can't go out with my sister anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Right, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there is it. Yeah
to do, Thank you so much, have a good day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But I think that my biggest takeaway from this segment
is Jason may or may not be invited to my
bachelor bar.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
I also don't know if a bachelor party is for me.
I don't know if I give that vibe, but I'm not.
I also want to know, like, did did the stripper
turn this lady out? Or was this something she does
all the time, bigger like a poem.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
There's part of me going did she pay extra for that?
Or was she so hot that the stripper was like, no,
I'm into this, I'm staying because that's a that's a compliment.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well yes, and what do you always say? You don't
know people's situations, like is this thing?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
But don't put me in that position? But don't put
me in that position if you're advertiser. Weren't in an
open relationship such that if I see something, I don't
have to live with that guilt or don't. But like
you're right, if I witness something like if I walk
into a restaurant and see someone I know with someone else,
or if I witness something and I don't have the context,
I'm probably staying out of that.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But I was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'm part of a group of people. I watched it happen.
I'm privy to it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I can look the other way if I don't know,
you know, but I don't think I can look the
other way if I'm there.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Ashley, Hi, good morning. Hey, so Kiki's court. What do
you think?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
So I feel like it would be like probably brushed
back because it's female and female, so that's considered, you know,
quote Potter, And that's probably why the family is probably
like who cares? Like why would you say something like
it's just a girl with a girl, but like it's cheating,
so cheating who you did it was?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And she would bother me just the same. I mean
a guy would probably bother me slightly more, but they'd
both bother me. I'd be like, oh, really, so you
can just hook up with whoever you want, you know, like, no,
you can't.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
She like the stigma is definitely Like if it was
a guy, it would be no question to ask, Like
the sister is not a jerk, Like, yeah, the wedding
is off and oh, well she cheated with a guy.
But because it's the girl of those families, like why
would you say something like makeing her feel bad and
it's still the same thing, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think people don't give the witnesses enough credit in
these situations, Like if you are going to be I
said this earlier, if you were sloppy enough to do
all this in front of me, then now you've involved
me and now it's on my character.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So how about this.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
If you want to be shady, then don't be shady,
but don't don't do in front of me because it
shouldn't infringe upon my values.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Your bad decisions.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Shady in private?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, thank you, Ashley, Yes, I have a good day. Guy,
shady in private. That's add that to the constitution.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Add that they should have ended the party like oh,
we're going to bed now, everybody go home, and then
have the exotic dancers come after the sister left, but
like doing it in front of her face and then
not expecting her to tell her brother is great.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Plus I wonder if she was that sister who like,
you've heard me talking about this before. But I can
see it from a mile away if I'm out, you know,
on a summer afternoon, I'm on the patio and I
see the bechelorette group approaching. I can, I can, I am,
I have a gift. I can see the group and
I can tell you, well, the bride's usually wearing something
different and the rest of them are wearing some god
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awful matching T shirts or something. But or so, you know,
just whatever, I can tell you which which ones are
supposed to be there and which ones were there out
of obligation, because it's like all the girls from like,
you know, they all went to whatever college together, and
they're a on a sorority and they all kind of
look the same. And then over here is the girl
in the birkenstocks with the backpack, and you know, and
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and she has nothing. One of these kids is not
like the other. That's the sister of the groom, yes,
you know, or something like. That's a person who was
obligated to be included, and and and so you don't
have the same bond with that person that you have
with the rest of them. So don't be messing around
because that person knows you guys nothing law.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's what I mean, that's your law. And you you
were Colin have a bachelor party.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So I was just gonna say, it's very telling, and
I'm appreciative of it, but I also wonder. I love
the guy, but I was not a I was not
in the we I was. I officiated the wedding. I
was not a groomsman. I think if I hadn't officiated
the wedding, then I probably would have been forced into
the wedding party, which I would have declined because I
didn't know the guy that well.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Like I didn't deserve to be up there. I don't decline.
I don't like I don't like that tradition.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I don't like the tradition where if I have if
I have as deep of a relationship with with with
the groom as all the other guys that were supposed
to stand up there, then I should stand up there.
But if it's one guy doesn't get to go up
there because I have to because I'm the brother. That's
not cool. I wouldn't like that. That's not fair. It's
not fair to him. It's not fair to me. Wow, Like,
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why should I take the spot of somebody who.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Was like his boy?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like, for example, I've got I don't know. I don't
really know who would stand up with me if I
got married. But I can tell you right now, if
I had to inject a sibling in there, that's one
last person who was really important to me who's not
standing up there. And that's not fairy. You have both, yeah,
because at some point you're not going to have forty
people standing up there.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I don't see why not.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, it's a respect thing. I think you couldn't say
no to that. I don't think it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But anyway, I was not invited to it. I was
not invited to the bachelor party. Oh, I was not invited,
and I will say I had no business being there
for the same reason. But again, maybe he was respecting
my ability to play dumb because I don't know what
happened there.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I wasn't there. That's now I wonder what he was
up to. But it was it was all that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It was people that he'd known since he was a
child like, Yeah, I mean these are like deep A
couple of guys. He toured the road with a a
in a metal band like you know when, all over
the country for years with these guys like these are
like deep relationships. They deserve to stand up there. I didn't.
I didn't RICO, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Hey bro'? Hey man, what do you want to say?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
So the thing is, so I.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Wanted to say, I don't think my sister would tell
me if that happened in front of her. I'm kind
of basing it off of our birthdays. It's just last
year I got my birth my sister a real expensive camera.
It was like five hoard bucks. And this year she
got me a pizza cutter. I'm like, bro, bro, wait,
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what is going about? You a pizza cu She got
you a pizza cutter.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So now you're thinking, my wife probably should have on
me at the bachelorette party and I never know how
we get here. Yeah, she likes you so little that
she got you a pizza cutter, so god knows what
else she's harboring. You know what, rec I pick it
up with what you hear? You you get me a
pizza cutter. What are you hiding?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
I mean, I thought, you know, there's just because for
her birthday. I kind of you know, I think I
I'm like, man, tan't get that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But I don't think you.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Would have like, yeah, I don't think she would tell
me and.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Man, that's how you know what. I'm gonna go back
and stay. Look at what of my friends gifted me.
You give me a pizza cutter. You don't care about me,
You are aware that I.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Thank you, Rico, have a good day. I mean, it
just makes a lot of sense to me. Wow, you
know