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When you function us back, we're gonna smile at you.
And when you knock us down.
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We're gonna get up. And on the way up, we're
gonna bite a knee cap off Horid haroun me head.
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Of a mile.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Let's give them the keys for the Hall of Fame,
but not tonight.
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Tonight they on the Stanley hun Steve ozonn.
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Come in kids by Heaven heavy bother me, Lie.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
I got one question for you, Michigan Nations. Who's got
it better than Nest right center field?
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That's got carry of God?
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Number five hundred head history for the kill camerero to
Jos before highs. This is game be over.
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Let's put the cap to pick a scar Brod Wicks win.
Speaker 9 (02:04):
By the way, did you see Jajing McCarthy posted after
the Lions lost to McCarthy and the Vikings where he
said kneecaps still intact. Let me tell you, young man,
you better be careful. Okay, it's one flipping game. You
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weren't great, You were good enough. Your team was really good,
specifically your two Lions, and you caught a team at
the right time since they played below their capability. There's
nothing wrong with a little humility in life. And he
will get his soon. Like It's not that I root
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against him. I thought he was a really good player
at Michigan. I don't think it was a heisman Trophy candidate.
I don't think it was a Johnny Uniis Award winner.
I don't think it was a Peyton Manning Award winner.
I thought he was a really good team member. Right,
that was a really good team. You can't deny that
they won the national championship. They relied on a running
game and a mediocre passing game. I don't think he's
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got a strong arm. I don't think he'll be a
really good quarterback in the NFL. But he's a tough kid.
He seems to be a bright kid. Even though that
was a really stupid thing to do, people are going
to remember that. Players will remember that. They won't tell
you that, but they will remember that. Hey, just before
the break, somebody had texted us, do you think Jerry
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Jones makes a trade or do you think he sells
off ceed Lamb. Well, here's what they've done. They're trading
for Logan Wilson, the linebacker for Cincinnati. What that takes
I don't know, but the Cowboys. According to Adam Schefter,
the Cowboys are finalizing a trade to acquire middle linebacker
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Logan Wilson. Jerry Jones told the media last night that
the Cowboys have made a trade ahead of Tuesday's trade deadline.
It's expected to be Wilson for the Bengals, who were
seeking get this a sixth round draft pick. Now he
has lost snaps to Barreck Carter. He was a captain
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for Cincinnati. He has Let's see, he's got two years
left on his contract because he signed in twenty twenty three.
He signed a four year, thirty six million dollar extension,
so two years left after this season. That's a good trade.
How good is Logan Wilson going to be? He's been
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good in the past, but you're getting a guy for
more than one year and you're giving up a six
round draft pick. He's not the equivalent to Trey Hendrickson.
Let's see if Cincinnati who again, they weren't necessarily playing him,
so you don't necessarily have to move heaven and earth
to get him, and Cincinnati's willing to take certain things,
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but get him for a six round draft pick. Pretty
damn good. Our phone number on the Meyer hotline is
eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three.
You can text the program sports Radio to twenty one thousand.
I don't know if you saw what did anybody hear?
What tom Izzo had to say. Yes, after the last
night's going I loved it. Yeah, queue that up when
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you can.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Yeah, I would. We'll come back with that in the
next segment.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Yeah. It's a good thing to tell people, because this
is a perfect example where you can read a box
score and you can look at it and say, hey,
you know, Michigan State pulled away from Colgate eighty to
sixty nine. Hey they put four in double figures. Hey,
they grabbed forty seven rebounds. Hey they had nineteen offensive rebounds. Hey,
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Jackson Kohler had himself a double double. And what is
tom Izzo looking at? Right, He's not looking at the
stuff that you and I look at in a box score.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
Nothing you just mentioned. I'll tell you that he's.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
Watched the entire thing in front of his eyes and
recognize his team led by three at the break, and
his team on the night shot a miserable forty one
point seven percent and they were six of twenty one
from deep. See, this is what happens. And I'm guilty
of it too. By the way, we see a win
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and we look for all the positive stats because you
don't want to be a hater, right, you can only
be a hater if your team loses. Well, that's not
necessarily true. Even if your team wins, as long as
it's the Lions or a football team, then you can
start looking at all the negatives. But Tom Milo was
sitting here watching his team go six for twenty one
and going this, this is a joke. We should be
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blowing Colgate out. I don't know where Colgate. I don't
know where the Raiders of Colgate are going to be
predicted to finish in the Patriot League. But generally speaking,
you would think the twenty second ranked team in America
would beat them by more than eleven points.
Speaker 12 (07:02):
It feels like a first round March Madness matchup where
you don't even really watch it. You watch the eight
to nine seed game, You're not watching the fifteen versus
the two.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
That's what it felt like.
Speaker 9 (07:14):
Well, considering their schedule, and this is what I've always
loved and respected about Michigan State. They every team has
to play some mid major teams, all right, But what
Michigan State does really well is they take care of
their own. Okay, they're gonna play Detroit Mercy, they're gonna
play Oakland. It's big paydays for those two schools. Good
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for them, right, help them stay alive. They're not worried
about losing to them. They're not gonna lose to Detroit.
They're not gonna lose to Oakland. It's as simple as that.
But unlike some college football teams, Alabama lost to Florida
State to start the year, which turns out to be
a really ugly loss, a really bad loss. But what
Michigan State does is they play that tune up, that
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warm up before they get in this case Arkansas, who's
ranked fourteenth, and a couple of games later they get
a top ten Kentucky team. I think Kentucky's like eighth
in the country. And a little bit later on they're
gonna play North Carolina, they're gonna play Duke love that
absolutely love it. Does it really matter if you're gonna
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if you lose to Arkansas in the second game of
the season, if it toughens you up, if it makes
the film study a little bit more effective, So when
you play Oregon on January twentieth, then it's worth it, right,
as long as you're not getting your doors blown off.
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Not to mention the fact that it's a really good
selling point I'm in Trent Beally's living room and I say,
here's what you are gonna do. You're gonna play Arkansas,
You're gonna play Kentucky, You're gonna play Duke. You're gonna
play North Carolina in addition to the Big ten teams. Great,
sign me up. I love playing big teams. I want
to prove to everybody that I'm as good as anybody
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blue chip wise for some of those blue blood schools,
and of course three of those schools are considered blue bloods, Duke,
North Carolina and Kentucky. Kansas would be the other phone
number on the Meyer Hotlines eight sixty six, eight three,
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one thousand, we'll get to the final results of the
pole question from yesterday. Well, let me reiterate the pole
question for today, the Mitch Lions wellth poll question. It's
trade deadline day four pm this afternoon, so Billy, you'll
be on the air with a huge show keeping you
updated on what the Lions are doing or not doing,
and what other teams may be doing. But we ask you,
what do the lines need to address today? By four
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Speaker 6 (11:00):
I didn't think we played very well, so a lot
of work to do, and we're going to get our
ass embarrassed on Saturday, and maybe that's good.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
It's good to have that pressure on us. I love
the genuine honesty from Tom is Now. Some of it
I believe is for a fact, because I don't think
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his team's very often get their ass handed to them
and get embarrassed. But sometimes there are early messages that
need to be sent. Love the honesty. His honesty is
a little different than let's say, dan Quinn. Did you
hear dan Quinn yesterday with Washington?
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 9 (11:51):
Okay, dan Quinn falls on the sword of having Jayden
Daniels in the game late. Look after that drive, we
were going to take guys out. Somebody brought up a
really good point yesterday. I was watching one of the players,
Oh you know, it's Troy Aikman. Was Troy Aikman and
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Marcus Spears, and they were saying, look, you take your
players out when you're winning. When you're losing, those players
are the ones who want to stay in to help
make it more of a game, and we don't look
at it like that. I was in a group chat
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yesterday when somebody said, there's no Sunday, there's no reason
for him to be in the game. In other words,
you raised the white flag. I think there was seven
minutes to go when he got energy somewhere in that
neighborhood and they were down by a bunch of Seattle.
They weren't coming back. In all honesty, I mean, everybody
had to admit Seattle was clearly the better team. Sam
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Donald was had a hell of a game.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Seattle's good.
Speaker 9 (12:58):
I don't know if you'd say Sam Donald was about
quarterback in the game, but if you looked at his numbers,
you would say that. You wouldn't say it if you
didn't like Sam Donald and you were believed in Jaden Daniels,
who should have been the first overall pick and was
the offensive rookie of the year and all these other things.
Whereas Sam Donald's been a bust. It's hard to get
rid of the label. What do I always say, It's
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hard to change people's minds, good or bad. Oh, that's okay.
I love this guy, even though he's turned out to
be somebody I never thought he was. Now I'm starting
to come around to it. Guy who plays really bad
at the beginning of his career. This guy's terrible, he
sees ghosts. This guy's a buss. This guy was drafted
way too right. I mean seriously, Yeah, name me an
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athlete who still hasn't or who took so long to
change people's minds about the type of player there. Nobody
said it better than Baker Mayfield earlier this year. I'm
still the same guy. This is what he tried to commit.
I'm still the same guy I was when Cleveland drafted me.
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I'm just winning. That's the difference. Sam Donald. Is he
the same guy. Look, it's not like I don't think
players can get better. Of course they can. Coaching matters.
But everybody last year said, well, Kevin O'Connell is some
type of quarterback whisperer. He's the second coming to Bill Walsh.
So that's the reason Sam Donald was better. Now he's
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in Seattle with a defensive minded Mike McDaniel. Anybody out
there saying Sam Donald is maybe the reason Sam Donald's better,
or he's still going to give credit to Kevin O'Connell,
who couldn't fix Carson Wentz and so far hasn't really
made a huge difference with JJ McCarthy. I'm just asking,
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but it's hard to shake that, right, It's really tough
to shake it. Dan Quinn said, look, that's one hundred
percent on me. He's going to take the fall. That's fine.
What did Wentz say after I ripped Minnesota in the
National Football League? Do you remember what Carson Wentz said?
Nobody forced me to stay in the game. I wanted
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to stay in the game. And now he's out for
the year with the left elbow right the left eight
labor because he got punished so severely. I wanted to
stay and he I don't know if he was falling
on the sword, but he's the one who took that
proverbial bullet for his team. Dan Quinn's doing the same thing.
If dan Quinn went up to Jaden Daniels and said, hey,
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I'm look, we're not coming back to win this game.
I'm out, He's like, you know what, Jaden Daniels would
probably say to him, Hey man, you gotta believe I
want to stay in the game. You're not taking me out.
Why is it when I get pissed off the trek
Scoubel is allowed to be taken out of a game,
and I want to see him fight for a seventh
inning for crying out loud, okay, because I want him
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to keep battling. But in football, we're gonna go sorry,
you're not coming back. Get him out of the game.
Why do we have different rules when it comes to
those sports. I wonder, Oh, you can get hurt if
you're a quarterback. Yeah, you can get hurt, right, you
get hurt if you're in the pocket. You can hurt
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if you roll out of the pocket. One of the
things we love about Jaden Daniels and quarterbacks like Jaden
Daniels is that their mobility allows them to make plays
out of the pocket and then possible injuries happen. It's
part of the reason I say all the time, I
don't mind mobile quarterbacks. I want my flipping quarterback to
throw the football. I don't want them running the football
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on occasion. Yeah I need a first down, Baker, go
way to go. You just picked up sixteen Josh Allen. Great,
But when I see guys like John Elway get helicopters
in the Super Bowl because he's diving for a first down.
It scares the hell out of me. When I see
Jayden Daniels do what he did the other day, it
scares the hell out of me. And saying, well, just
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take him out of the game isn't the easiest answer.
It's the most convenient one, but it's not something every
coach goes. Can't You can't play the game thinking on
every play this guy's going to get hurt. I can't
run that play. Why not because Trent could get hurt
on that play? No kidding, tell me something I don't know.
Every single play somebody could get hurt. So why many
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times you're holding your breath? Why does nobody say that
about Lineman Alt? Joe Alt, the captain for the Chargers.
He's out for the year with a broken ankle. You
know why. Somebody rolled up behind him. He's blocking on
the left side, doing a good job of stock blocking
his guy. Somebody comes barreling in from behind, rolls his ankle,
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breaks it. He's out for the year. Why was Joe
Alt in the game? That's football, man, And we've got
a coach who's now been forced to say listen, and
by the way, there's no fracture for Jaden Daniels, the
xctually came back. There's no fracture. Oh my god, how
dare you? Why do you have your guys in the
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game late? At what point? And I thought it was
weird too, But at what point do we look at
it and say, all right, the game's over? Like, do
you get up and leave? I'm leaving? Oh my gosh,
why because I don't think they're coming back. You got
a full quarter left. We've seen stranger things happen. Didn't
you see Cincinnati play Chicago the other day? There were
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three touchdowns score in the final two minutes. I just
get a feeling for them. I'm leaving. Okay, see you
later if you did that with your player. But that
guy's still sitting there. What the hell's going on here? Lord?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Management?
Speaker 9 (18:47):
It's so many battles within the mindset of sports. It
kind of drives me crazy sometimes. Let's get to the
final results of the pole question. The pole question from
yesterday was a simple yes or no response. That's all
we're looking for. Was that the best World series between
the Blue Jays and the Dodgers you've ever seen? Yes
or no?
Speaker 12 (19:07):
Pretty close? Fifty two percent say, yes, it was forty
eight percent.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
No, all right, good love it. It was a hell
of a series, man, A lot of fun to watch.
How about the Daily Wager? I think it was awful.
Speaker 12 (19:20):
I had the Cowboys minus three. That's bread made no
sense to me. I thought the Cowboys would blow out
the Cardinals. Well, we thought they would score, right, Yeah,
I thought they'd score points. Yeah, even if it's a shootout.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I agreed one hundred percent with you, because yeah, I
mean I didn't think it would be a shootout because
I didn't think Arizona could score with them. But I
sure as hell thought Dallas would score more than seventeen points, didn't.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
You, Yeah, Oh for sure. That was the whole logic. Yeah.
And I thought even if it was a.
Speaker 12 (19:48):
Shootout, it'd be a thirty eight to thirty game or
something like that, you know, and Dallas would just cover
the three. But not so tonight, though. I'll take the
Wings and the Knights the goal nights. That is over
six goals. That's a late one, by the way, ten o'clock.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to
stay up for all three periods, but I like the
over six goals and wings at Nights.
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Tully More Tuesday. Some players that could be moved at
the trade deadline. The deadline is at four o'clock. The
big names are the ones we always gravitate toward. Trey Hendrickson,
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for example, where does he fit well Philadelphia? Addressed with
Jinglen Phillips, It probably narrows it down Sam, But Cisco lost,
They've lost their two starting defensive ends. They feel like
they're still in it and they they take on the
Rams next week or this coming week. Maybe the Colts
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fits him too. Jayalen Waddle's another name that's been talked about.
Breece Hall. I mean the Jets would have the first
overall pick. I believe they could always address that situation.
I keep hearing Rieke Woolan cornerback for the Seahawks. Fourth
year guy, big guy. He's got great speed. He's six',
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four eleven picks thirty pass breakups in his. Career he
hasn't been a great. Tackler can you fix? That how
easily is that to? Fix it's a great. QUESTION i
think you can fix, it all. RIGHT i would love
to see that type of, move all. Right when you
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hear names Like Chris olave from The, saints not, necessarily you,
know de trade doesn't need a wide, receiver so those
are big, names but you don't you bypass. Those Alante,
taylor a cornerback From New, orleans wouldn't be a bad.
Opportunity either he's got, speed he can play inside or.
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Outside might be a little bit of a surprise for The.
Saints they're not going, anywhere depends on the offer that
you would, get but possibly so With phillips out because
he's been Traded. Philadelphia when you get you, Know Trey
hendrickson is going to be really tough to trade. For
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and good edge rushers are hard to, find all. Right
they're you're looking for somebody who's got a reasonable contract
and the guy who is. Productive you can do. That
you can do that with a guy Like Jermaine. Johnson
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he's the edge rusher for The jet. Now he missed
all but two games a year, ago all, right had
to sit earlier this, year last, year it was a
it was an achilles, injury which always scares the hell
out of. You this year he's missed a couple of
games because of an, ankle but when he's, healthy he's very.
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Productive seven and a half, sacks sixteen. PRESSURES a couple
of years, ago could he be? Traded? Absolutely what would it?
Take great? Question not quite? Sure does he? Fit for
sure he, fits and you've got some familiarity there at
least with the. Coach maybe not with the general manager as,
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much but with the. Coach so that would BE i
think a guy you could talk, to or a guy
you could talk or an organization you could talk to
and possibly get and then like As i've mentioned, before Arden,
KEY i think is a really attractive piece at six,'
five with, his length has. A history he's a guy
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WHO can. I, know again injuries have played, a part
but he fits a perfect Mold for detroit on his,
chase speed how he can set. The edge even though
his numbers were not great to start. The year he
could be a perfect situational guy For. The lions you
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don't need him. Every down you're not going to play
him ninety one percent of the snaps like You Do.
Aiden hutchinson we said, that earlier we, said, this Well, today's.
Tuesday Yesterday aiden hutchinson ninety two percent of the snaps of,
this year eighty one percent, last year ninety one percent the,
year before eighty four percent the year before of games
in which. He, played okay you can get a, serviceable
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CORNER and i think you'll be able to get a serviceable.
Edge player the question is how do you handle offensive?
Line needs that's the. Big question what are you going?
To do because you can Get A cam taylor Brit
from cincinnati to help, your secondary you need guys who
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can help you help your offensive line. Right now and
those guys are tough to. Come by and That's why
i've brought up a couple. Of names i've Brought Up
evan neil. For example he's a guy who is a
guard and. A tackle i don't care if he was
a high. Draft pick that doesn't. Really, matter okay he
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was number seven pick overall in twenty, twenty two but
he has not been able to gain the starting, role
consistently which is something you don't necessarily need. Here either
he's a, spot starter which is what you would do
first three years With. The giants he was really. Good
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lately there's. A reason there's a reason, he's available not
just because the teams not, very good but because they find.
Him expendable and that's what we always got to keep.
In mind here you're getting a player that a bad team.
Finds expendable so just trading for trade sake doesn't make.
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Any sense think about it for. A moment you just
beat the hell out of a bad team their. BEST
player i had a coach once say to me when
we were an underdog to a really. Good team he
started going around, and saying do you think this person
you know our best players could play on? That team or, are,
like yeah yeah, HE could i could blah blah blah.
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Blah blah some of you start to. Look wrong maybe
we're not as bad as. We thought so you look
at another player, Another Team, arden key, for EXAMPLE who
i think is a. Good player what he's Art Over
aiden hutchinson Or Al KaDee muhammad who's. Been, productive no
but he's a, situational guy and you. Trade, accordingly now
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a Guy Like trey hendrickson again i'll use the, extreme
here would come in and he would be that guy
and make your starter the, serviceable guy which makes you
even that, much, Stronger right but a lot depends on
what you got to. Give Up the pistons were winners
last Night, against memphis and they reminded you of Last
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Year's detroit lions until They. Played washington they, were physical they,
Were tough they protect. The Rim isaiah stewart was. REALLY
good i actually WAS the i thought he was the
best player on, the floor which.
Speaker 12 (28:52):
Is crazy by, THE way i don't disagree, with you
but that is crazy that.
Speaker 9 (28:55):
That, happened yeah twenty six points and. Fourteen rebounds YOU
and i love. Our teams sometimes emotion gets the best,
of us, especially you and, that's okay there's nothing wrong.
With that but sometimes it pours over into coaches. AS. Well,
(29:18):
jb BICKERSTAFF who i like, a lot said This About
isaiah stewart after the game. Last night go ahead and.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
Play, THIS yeah, i mean it's, his heart gets, his
courage it's, his determination it's, his grit it's, you know
his love Of The, detroit pistons the City. Of detroit
he plays, for them he plays for, his teammates and
he was on an.
Speaker 11 (29:42):
Album, night.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Okay you heard the. Word great that makes, everybody, go,
yes yes THAT'S why i. LOVE him i love him
because he's not going to. BACK down i love him
because when he, gets ejected he goes like this With
The detroit. YEAH yeah i love him because other people
describe him. AS tough i love him because other people
describe him, with grit that he loves, the city that
(30:07):
he loves.
Speaker 12 (30:07):
The organization he adds To the piston's reputation of being a.
Tough team, you, KNOW.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yeah i way too. Cynical HERE but i don't. NEED
to i don't need to be told Every Time isaiah stewart.
PLAYS well i don't need to be told that sorry
phone ring that, he is that he loves, the organization loves.
THE city i don't know WHY that's i don't know why.
(30:35):
That's necessary does anybody else? Do That lucas, Raymond scores oh,
my god he loves wearing the wing. Wheel. SWEATER man,
i mean he just loves. The city He's, FROM sweden
i know he still loves. THE city i, don't well
maybe it's maybe IT'S on i.
Speaker 12 (30:53):
DON'T know i don't know who asked, the question but,
YOU know, i mean what's he SUPPOSED. To jb bickerstaf's
just answer the question he's supposed. To do what's he supposed?
To say if someone, asks you What Does isaiah stuart
mean to?
Speaker 9 (31:05):
The, city, no no nobody asked. Him that they didn't
ask him what he means to the City. Of, detroit
honestly What Does isaiah stewart mean to the City?
Speaker 8 (31:14):
OF detroit i agree. With you i'm just trying to.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
Ask him what they asked him about is how about
the Play Of isaiah stewart and how important that is to? Your,
team well he loves, the city he plays. With, great, Okay,
Great no. I'M serious i mean, It's great you're great
that he plays. That way there's a lot of different
things you. Can say this is not one of those
situations where somebody's ripping on your teammate or your player
(31:39):
and you stand your ground and. Defend, them OKAY.
Speaker 12 (31:43):
But I guess i just don't look so deeply. Into
IT BUT i I know i. Get, point yeah THAT'S
why i said. Full disclosure way too literal and ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
That even have to go. THAT far i don't KNOW
why i.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Do that.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
But he was fantastic. Last night we can leave it
at he adds strength and power and. Rim protection and
he's added this to. His game it doesn't have to be. The,
grit okay he loves, the city he Loves. The, pistons
yeah it. HOPES so i mean he's making millions. Of,
dollars yeah, NO kidding, i mean, my goodness did You
(32:21):
See matt lufflur is viewed as this. Incredible coach we
get this up and down feeling with Certain coaches kevin O'Connell. And,
minnesota boy when you get your ass kicked By, the
chargers you're not, so smart? Are you and then suddenly
you Win, in detroit, and hey you, know what you're
(32:41):
a pretty, Good Coach. Dan, campbell oh now you've lost
to some pretty good teams on. Your schedule you lose
to the best teams on, Your Schedule green Bay And,
kansas city and we still don't know what they are
because we know what Grant Who green bay has, lost
to we Know Who kansas city's. Lost it and then
you Lose, to minnesota who you thought they were going,
to win SO Did i and suddenly people are. Questioning
(33:04):
him this is the, coaching. Profession Right matt lafleur was
seen as, this prodigy this. Brilliant, guy yep he went
for it on fourth and eight From the panthers thirteen
yard line with eleven.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Minutes left that's, So, bad sol.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
You, know, That right, you're okay. ALL right i.
Speaker 12 (33:24):
Didn't watch IT because i was At the, lions GAME
but i did see It. On, twitter Yes he farry
scrutinized play.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
And rightfully so that's, you know when people Talk About
dan campbell going forward on, fourth down they love to
use the STATISTIC and i can't help but wonder how
much it matters on, third down like theyir third. Down,
suck okay it's down like twelve percentage points from a.
Year ago they went from being TOP five i believe
(33:55):
in that category to, twenty second twenty third. This.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Year yeah, not, good right not good.
Speaker 9 (34:01):
AT all i wonder how much third down affects a
player's mind when they know they're going forward on. FOURTH
down a lot OF times i don't know the answer.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
To, that yeah that's a. Fair QUESTION something.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I wonder like they if it's third down, and six
well we don't, get six but we do. Get four
we know we're going, Forward anyway so what difference does?
IT make i doubt they feel. THAT way i just
those are random THOUGHTS that i have every once in.
A while so everybody makes a huge deal out. Of
that oh, MY gosh i. Can't believe, you Know the
lions go for it on fourth at Least When dan
(34:35):
campbell goes forward on, fourth down it's A smart you
could understand Why When matt lafleur's got eleven minutes to
go in a, close game he's at his own thirteen
and he goes ford on fourth down. And eight that's
a dumb decision that does not put your team in
(34:56):
a very good spot, at all and it Makes you
i'm sure People In green bay probably wonder. This too if,
you win you kind of gloss. That OVER but i
said this to. Somebody yesterday give me the best team
In The National. Football league somebody said to me Yesterday.
(35:16):
THE patriots, I, said okay they've lost To the raiders And.
THE steelers i know they've won four in a row
or six in a row or whatever, it is but
they lost To the raiders And, the steelers and nobody
feels Like the steelers are all that good.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Right now, they're solid but, you know losing To the.
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Raiders speak so, you Know the steelers are five, and
three same as, Your TEAM so i take. The reverse
i'm not trying to Be a lions, Fan here i'm
trying to take somebody. The, opposite no you're just trying
to be realistic. About, it, Yeah, right indianapolis we think they're.
Really good they deserve. To, be well if you're going
to Say the lions lost to the best team on,
Their schedule indianapolis lost to the best team, on Theirs,
(35:56):
the rams and then they just got. Blown, out yeah.
WASN'T points i guess it wasn't, a blowout but They.
In Pittsburgh, WHO again i take you back to our,
earlier argument not a.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Great team wasn't it.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Pretty much a two score game the whole, game though
for the, most part and then they came back at
the end and made it. Look close, but, yeah No
the steelers rolled.
Speaker 9 (36:16):
Over them so then you Debate. The, bills okay well
they lost To, the patriots who we already told you
who they, lost to and they lost To, the falcons
who were blown out thirty to Nothing. By, carolina yikes
that's a hard one to try and come to, grips
with don't YOU think i mean, that's yes when you're
trying to when you're trying to rationalize who's good, who's
not then that's a.
Speaker 12 (36:37):
Serious, Problem, NO shep i think this is an awesome
discussion because it goes to show how competitive the.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
League, is yeah Any given sunday to The.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
pH we've, Known, that yes and we still don't Absorb. At,
philadelphia okay they're the, world champs they're making moves good.
For them they lost to The. Flipping, Giants, Okay no.
I'M serious i mean these are THINGS that i shake
my Head At. Green bay i've already told you about
some of. Their. Losses, Tampa well tampa Lost. To detroit
(37:09):
they lost To. The eagles could you Argue that tampa's
lost to the two best teams on? Their schedule sure,
You could which brings you TO The. La rams they
lost To, the eagles they gave up a. Huge lead
they also lost To, the niners who what had? Backups
(37:32):
everywhere remember YOU and i were talking. ABOUT it i
think it Was Your.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
Daily wager yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
It Was mac jones suddenly is Picking the rams apart
with guys we don't know who are their. Wide receivers
they're the equivalent To the lion's Secondary. Against, tampa folks
my point is that for every team you, look at
for every belief you have in a, certain team somebody
could come back, and say hold on, A, second denver
(38:00):
you lost To, the colts who just lost To, the
steelers and you lost to in back to, at games
they lost To, the colts and they, lost, to Oh,
the chargers who at one point lost what three games in.
A row there are.
Speaker 12 (38:19):
Warts everywhere there's no clear cut front runner in, either Conference.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Right and If You're roger goodell and you're the executives,
on television you absolutely love. That stuff and you know
before you start, to, Go, well seattle. They're, unbelievable yeah
well they Lost To san francisco at the beginning of
the year and you.
Speaker 12 (38:39):
Trust, them well you talked about this a little. BIT
earlier i still Don't Trust. SAM darnold i don't know why.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
They also lost To. The bucks With the lions beat
handily with a backup at every single position in. The
secondary the, point, is folks this is the beauty With
The National football league is right now there's a lot
yet to be decided and a lot of things we
just don't. Know yet it's, fun stuff. All right thank
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you for your contributions to the. Show today we. Appreciate it.
As always we're back with it, tomorrow morning six o'clock
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(02:24):
weren't great, You were good enough. Your team was really good,
specifically your two Lions, and you caught a team at
the right time since they played below their capability. There's
nothing wrong with a little humility in life. And he
will get his soon. Like It's not that I root
(02:47):
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at Michigan. I don't think it was a heisman Trophy candidate.
I don't think it was a Johnny Uniis Award winner.
I don't think it was a Peyton Manning Award winner.
I thought he was a really good team member. Right,
that was a really good team. You can't deny that
they won the national championship. They relied on a running
game and a mediocre passing game. I don't think he's
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got a strong arm. I don't think he'll be a
really good quarterback in the NFL. But he's a tough kid.
He seems to be a bright kid. Even though that
was a really stupid thing to do, people are going
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you that, but they will remember that. Hey, just before
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(03:29):
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off ceed Lamb. Well, here's what they've done. They're trading
for Logan Wilson, the linebacker for Cincinnati. What that takes
I don't know, but the Cowboys. According to Adam Schefter,
the Cowboys are finalizing a trade to acquire middle linebacker
(03:52):
Logan Wilson. Jerry Jones told the media last night that
the Cowboys have made a trade ahead of Tuesday's trade deadline.
It's expected to be Wilson for the Bengals, who were
seeking get this a sixth round draft pick. Now he
has lost snaps to Barreck Carter. He was a captain
(04:14):
for Cincinnati. He has Let's see, he's got two years
left on his contract because he signed in twenty twenty three.
He signed a four year, thirty six million dollar extension,
so two years left after this season. That's a good trade.
How good is Logan Wilson going to be? He's been
(04:35):
good in the past, but you're getting a guy for
more than one year and you're giving up a six
round draft pick. He's not the equivalent to Trey Hendrickson.
Let's see if Cincinnati who again, they weren't necessarily playing him,
so you don't necessarily have to move heaven and earth
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I don't know if you saw what did anybody hear?
What tom Izzo had to say. Yes, after the last
night's going I loved it. Yeah, queue that up when
(05:20):
you can.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Yeah, I would. We'll come back with that in the
next segment.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Yeah. It's a good thing to tell people, because this
is a perfect example where you can read a box
score and you can look at it and say, hey,
you know, Michigan State pulled away from Colgate eighty to
sixty nine. Hey they put four in double figures. Hey,
they grabbed forty seven rebounds. Hey they had nineteen offensive rebounds. Hey,
(05:43):
Jackson Kohler had himself a double double. And what is
tom Izzo looking at? Right, He's not looking at the
stuff that you and I look at in a box score.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
Nothing you just mentioned. I'll tell you that he's.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
Watched the entire thing in front of his eyes and
recognize his team led by three at the break, and
his team on the night shot a miserable forty one
point seven percent and they were six of twenty one
from deep. See, this is what happens. And I'm guilty
of it too. By the way, we see a win
(06:22):
and we look for all the positive stats because you
don't want to be a hater, right, you can only
be a hater if your team loses. Well, that's not
necessarily true. Even if your team wins, as long as
it's the Lions or a football team, then you can
start looking at all the negatives. But Tom Milo was
sitting here watching his team go six for twenty one
and going this, this is a joke. We should be
(06:43):
blowing Colgate out. I don't know where Colgate. I don't
know where the Raiders of Colgate are going to be
predicted to finish in the Patriot League. But generally speaking,
you would think the twenty second ranked team in America
would beat them by more than eleven points.
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It feels like a first round March Madness matchup where
you don't even really watch it. You watch the eight
to nine seed game, You're not watching the fifteen versus
the two.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
That's what it felt like.
Speaker 9 (07:14):
Well, considering their schedule, and this is what I've always
loved and respected about Michigan State. They every team has
to play some mid major teams, all right, But what
Michigan State does really well is they take care of
their own. Okay, they're gonna play Detroit Mercy, they're gonna
play Oakland. It's big paydays for those two schools. Good
(07:37):
for them, right, help them stay alive. They're not worried
about losing to them. They're not gonna lose to Detroit.
They're not gonna lose to Oakland. It's as simple as that.
But unlike some college football teams, Alabama lost to Florida
State to start the year, which turns out to be
a really ugly loss, a really bad loss. But what
Michigan State does is they play that tune up, that
(07:59):
warm up before they get in this case Arkansas, who's
ranked fourteenth, and a couple of games later they get
a top ten Kentucky team. I think Kentucky's like eighth
in the country. And a little bit later on they're
gonna play North Carolina, they're gonna play Duke love that
absolutely love it. Does it really matter if you're gonna
(08:20):
if you lose to Arkansas in the second game of
the season, if it toughens you up, if it makes
the film study a little bit more effective, So when
you play Oregon on January twentieth, then it's worth it, right,
as long as you're not getting your doors blown off.
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Not to mention the fact that it's a really good
selling point I'm in Trent Beally's living room and I say,
here's what you are gonna do. You're gonna play Arkansas,
You're gonna play Kentucky, You're gonna play Duke. You're gonna
play North Carolina in addition to the Big ten teams. Great,
sign me up. I love playing big teams. I want
to prove to everybody that I'm as good as anybody
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I didn't think we played very well, so a lot
of work to do, and we're going to get our
ass embarrassed on Saturday, and maybe that's good.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
It's good to have that pressure on us. I love
the genuine honesty from Tom is Now. Some of it
I believe is for a fact, because I don't think
(11:28):
his team's very often get their ass handed to them
and get embarrassed. But sometimes there are early messages that
need to be sent. Love the honesty. His honesty is
a little different than let's say, dan Quinn. Did you
hear dan Quinn yesterday with Washington?
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 9 (11:51):
Okay, dan Quinn falls on the sword of having Jayden
Daniels in the game late. Look after that drive, we
were going to take guys out. Somebody brought up a
really good point yesterday. I was watching one of the players,
Oh you know, it's Troy Aikman. Was Troy Aikman and
(12:12):
Marcus Spears, and they were saying, look, you take your
players out when you're winning. When you're losing, those players
are the ones who want to stay in to help
make it more of a game, and we don't look
at it like that. I was in a group chat
(12:33):
yesterday when somebody said, there's no Sunday, there's no reason
for him to be in the game. In other words,
you raised the white flag. I think there was seven
minutes to go when he got energy somewhere in that
neighborhood and they were down by a bunch of Seattle.
They weren't coming back. In all honesty, I mean, everybody
had to admit Seattle was clearly the better team. Sam
(12:54):
Donald was had a hell of a game.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Seattle's good.
Speaker 9 (12:58):
I don't know if you'd say Sam Donald was about
quarterback in the game, but if you looked at his numbers,
you would say that. You wouldn't say it if you
didn't like Sam Donald and you were believed in Jaden Daniels,
who should have been the first overall pick and was
the offensive rookie of the year and all these other things.
Whereas Sam Donald's been a bust. It's hard to get
rid of the label. What do I always say, It's
(13:19):
hard to change people's minds, good or bad. Oh, that's okay.
I love this guy, even though he's turned out to
be somebody I never thought he was. Now I'm starting
to come around to it. Guy who plays really bad
at the beginning of his career. This guy's terrible, he
sees ghosts. This guy's a buss. This guy was drafted
way too right. I mean seriously, Yeah, name me an
(13:43):
athlete who still hasn't or who took so long to
change people's minds about the type of player there. Nobody
said it better than Baker Mayfield earlier this year. I'm
still the same guy. This is what he tried to commit.
I'm still the same guy I was when Cleveland drafted me.
(14:04):
I'm just winning. That's the difference. Sam Donald. Is he
the same guy. Look, it's not like I don't think
players can get better. Of course they can. Coaching matters.
But everybody last year said, well, Kevin O'Connell is some
type of quarterback whisperer. He's the second coming to Bill Walsh.
So that's the reason Sam Donald was better. Now he's
(14:29):
in Seattle with a defensive minded Mike McDaniel. Anybody out
there saying Sam Donald is maybe the reason Sam Donald's better,
or he's still going to give credit to Kevin O'Connell,
who couldn't fix Carson Wentz and so far hasn't really
made a huge difference with JJ McCarthy. I'm just asking,
(14:55):
but it's hard to shake that, right, It's really tough
to shake it. Dan Quinn said, look, that's one hundred
percent on me. He's going to take the fall. That's fine.
What did Wentz say after I ripped Minnesota in the
National Football League? Do you remember what Carson Wentz said?
Nobody forced me to stay in the game. I wanted
(15:17):
to stay in the game. And now he's out for
the year with the left elbow right the left eight
labor because he got punished so severely. I wanted to
stay and he I don't know if he was falling
on the sword, but he's the one who took that
proverbial bullet for his team. Dan Quinn's doing the same thing.
If dan Quinn went up to Jaden Daniels and said, hey,
(15:38):
I'm look, we're not coming back to win this game.
I'm out, He's like, you know what, Jaden Daniels would
probably say to him, Hey man, you gotta believe I
want to stay in the game. You're not taking me out.
Why is it when I get pissed off the trek
Scoubel is allowed to be taken out of a game,
and I want to see him fight for a seventh
inning for crying out loud, okay, because I want him
(16:04):
to keep battling. But in football, we're gonna go sorry,
you're not coming back. Get him out of the game.
Why do we have different rules when it comes to
those sports. I wonder, Oh, you can get hurt if
you're a quarterback. Yeah, you can get hurt, right, you
get hurt if you're in the pocket. You can hurt
(16:24):
if you roll out of the pocket. One of the
things we love about Jaden Daniels and quarterbacks like Jaden
Daniels is that their mobility allows them to make plays
out of the pocket and then possible injuries happen. It's
part of the reason I say all the time, I
don't mind mobile quarterbacks. I want my flipping quarterback to
throw the football. I don't want them running the football
(16:44):
on occasion. Yeah I need a first down, Baker, go
way to go. You just picked up sixteen Josh Allen. Great,
But when I see guys like John Elway get helicopters
in the Super Bowl because he's diving for a first down.
It scares the hell out of me. When I see
Jayden Daniels do what he did the other day, it
scares the hell out of me. And saying, well, just
(17:05):
take him out of the game isn't the easiest answer.
It's the most convenient one, but it's not something every
coach goes. Can't You can't play the game thinking on
every play this guy's going to get hurt. I can't
run that play. Why not because Trent could get hurt
on that play? No kidding, tell me something I don't know.
Every single play somebody could get hurt. So why many
(17:27):
times you're holding your breath? Why does nobody say that
about Lineman Alt? Joe Alt, the captain for the Chargers.
He's out for the year with a broken ankle. You
know why. Somebody rolled up behind him. He's blocking on
the left side, doing a good job of stock blocking
his guy. Somebody comes barreling in from behind, rolls his ankle,
(17:49):
breaks it. He's out for the year. Why was Joe
Alt in the game? That's football, man, And we've got
a coach who's now been forced to say listen, and
by the way, there's no fracture for Jaden Daniels, the
xctually came back. There's no fracture. Oh my god, how
dare you? Why do you have your guys in the
(18:10):
game late? At what point? And I thought it was
weird too, But at what point do we look at
it and say, all right, the game's over? Like, do
you get up and leave? I'm leaving? Oh my gosh,
why because I don't think they're coming back. You got
a full quarter left. We've seen stranger things happen. Didn't
you see Cincinnati play Chicago the other day? There were
(18:32):
three touchdowns score in the final two minutes. I just
get a feeling for them. I'm leaving. Okay, see you
later if you did that with your player. But that
guy's still sitting there. What the hell's going on here? Lord?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Management?
Speaker 9 (18:47):
It's so many battles within the mindset of sports. It
kind of drives me crazy sometimes. Let's get to the
final results of the pole question. The pole question from
yesterday was a simple yes or no response. That's all
we're looking for. Was that the best World series between
the Blue Jays and the Dodgers you've ever seen? Yes
or no?
Speaker 12 (19:07):
Pretty close? Fifty two percent say, yes, it was forty
eight percent.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
No, all right, good love it. It was a hell
of a series, man, A lot of fun to watch.
How about the Daily Wager? I think it was awful.
Speaker 12 (19:20):
I had the Cowboys minus three. That's bread made no
sense to me. I thought the Cowboys would blow out
the Cardinals. Well, we thought they would score, right, Yeah,
I thought they'd score points. Yeah, even if it's a shootout.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I agreed one hundred percent with you, because yeah, I
mean I didn't think it would be a shootout because
I didn't think Arizona could score with them. But I
sure as hell thought Dallas would score more than seventeen points, didn't.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
You, Yeah, Oh for sure. That was the whole logic. Yeah.
And I thought even if it was a.
Speaker 12 (19:48):
Shootout, it'd be a thirty eight to thirty game or
something like that, you know, and Dallas would just cover
the three. But not so tonight, though. I'll take the
Wings and the Knights the goal nights. That is over
six goals. That's a late one, by the way, ten o'clock.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to
stay up for all three periods, but I like the
over six goals and wings at Nights.
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Tully More Tuesday. Some players that could be moved at
the trade deadline. The deadline is at four o'clock. The
big names are the ones we always gravitate toward. Trey Hendrickson,
(21:52):
for example, where does he fit well Philadelphia? Addressed with
Jinglen Phillips, It probably narrows it down Sam, But Cisco lost,
They've lost their two starting defensive ends. They feel like
they're still in it and they they take on the
Rams next week or this coming week. Maybe the Colts
(22:12):
fits him too. Jayalen Waddle's another name that's been talked about.
Breece Hall. I mean the Jets would have the first
overall pick. I believe they could always address that situation.
I keep hearing Rieke Woolan cornerback for the Seahawks. Fourth
year guy, big guy. He's got great speed. He's six',
(22:32):
four eleven picks thirty pass breakups in his. Career he
hasn't been a great. Tackler can you fix? That how
easily is that to? Fix it's a great. QUESTION i
think you can fix, it all. RIGHT i would love
to see that type of, move all. Right when you
(22:53):
hear names Like Chris olave from The, saints not, necessarily you,
know de trade doesn't need a wide, receiver so those
are big, names but you don't you bypass. Those Alante,
taylor a cornerback From New, orleans wouldn't be a bad.
Opportunity either he's got, speed he can play inside or.
(23:17):
Outside might be a little bit of a surprise for The.
Saints they're not going, anywhere depends on the offer that
you would, get but possibly so With phillips out because
he's been Traded. Philadelphia when you get you, Know Trey
hendrickson is going to be really tough to trade. For
(23:38):
and good edge rushers are hard to, find all. Right
they're you're looking for somebody who's got a reasonable contract
and the guy who is. Productive you can do. That
you can do that with a guy Like Jermaine. Johnson
(23:58):
he's the edge rusher for The jet. Now he missed
all but two games a year, ago all, right had
to sit earlier this, year last, year it was a
it was an achilles, injury which always scares the hell
out of. You this year he's missed a couple of
games because of an, ankle but when he's, healthy he's very.
(24:21):
Productive seven and a half, sacks sixteen. PRESSURES a couple
of years, ago could he be? Traded? Absolutely what would it?
Take great? Question not quite? Sure does he? Fit for
sure he, fits and you've got some familiarity there at
least with the. Coach maybe not with the general manager as,
(24:43):
much but with the. Coach so that would BE i
think a guy you could talk, to or a guy
you could talk or an organization you could talk to
and possibly get and then like As i've mentioned, before Arden,
KEY i think is a really attractive piece at six,'
five with, his length has. A history he's a guy
(25:08):
WHO can. I, know again injuries have played, a part
but he fits a perfect Mold for detroit on his,
chase speed how he can set. The edge even though
his numbers were not great to start. The year he
could be a perfect situational guy For. The lions you
(25:31):
don't need him. Every down you're not going to play
him ninety one percent of the snaps like You Do.
Aiden hutchinson we said, that earlier we, said, this Well, today's.
Tuesday Yesterday aiden hutchinson ninety two percent of the snaps of,
this year eighty one percent, last year ninety one percent the,
year before eighty four percent the year before of games
in which. He, played okay you can get a, serviceable
(25:53):
CORNER and i think you'll be able to get a serviceable.
Edge player the question is how do you handle offensive?
Line needs that's the. Big question what are you going?
To do because you can Get A cam taylor Brit
from cincinnati to help, your secondary you need guys who
(26:14):
can help you help your offensive line. Right now and
those guys are tough to. Come by and That's why
i've brought up a couple. Of names i've Brought Up
evan neil. For example he's a guy who is a
guard and. A tackle i don't care if he was
a high. Draft pick that doesn't. Really, matter okay he
(26:35):
was number seven pick overall in twenty, twenty two but
he has not been able to gain the starting, role
consistently which is something you don't necessarily need. Here either
he's a, spot starter which is what you would do
first three years With. The giants he was really. Good
(27:00):
lately there's. A reason there's a reason, he's available not
just because the teams not, very good but because they find.
Him expendable and that's what we always got to keep.
In mind here you're getting a player that a bad team.
Finds expendable so just trading for trade sake doesn't make.
(27:24):
Any sense think about it for. A moment you just
beat the hell out of a bad team their. BEST
player i had a coach once say to me when
we were an underdog to a really. Good team he
started going around, and saying do you think this person
you know our best players could play on? That team or, are,
like yeah yeah, HE could i could blah blah blah.
(27:48):
Blah blah some of you start to. Look wrong maybe
we're not as bad as. We thought so you look
at another player, Another Team, arden key, for EXAMPLE who
i think is a. Good player what he's Art Over
aiden hutchinson Or Al KaDee muhammad who's. Been, productive no
but he's a, situational guy and you. Trade, accordingly now
(28:11):
a Guy Like trey hendrickson again i'll use the, extreme
here would come in and he would be that guy
and make your starter the, serviceable guy which makes you
even that, much, Stronger right but a lot depends on
what you got to. Give Up the pistons were winners
last Night, against memphis and they reminded you of Last
(28:37):
Year's detroit lions until They. Played washington they, were physical they,
Were tough they protect. The Rim isaiah stewart was. REALLY
good i actually WAS the i thought he was the
best player on, the floor which.
Speaker 12 (28:52):
Is crazy by, THE way i don't disagree, with you
but that is crazy that.
Speaker 9 (28:55):
That, happened yeah twenty six points and. Fourteen rebounds YOU
and i love. Our teams sometimes emotion gets the best,
of us, especially you and, that's okay there's nothing wrong.
With that but sometimes it pours over into coaches. AS. Well,
(29:18):
jb BICKERSTAFF who i like, a lot said This About
isaiah stewart after the game. Last night go ahead and.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
Play, THIS yeah, i mean it's, his heart gets, his
courage it's, his determination it's, his grit it's, you know
his love Of The, detroit pistons the City. Of detroit
he plays, for them he plays for, his teammates and
he was on an.
Speaker 11 (29:42):
Album, night.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Okay you heard the. Word great that makes, everybody, go,
yes yes THAT'S why i. LOVE him i love him
because he's not going to. BACK down i love him
because when he, gets ejected he goes like this With
The detroit. YEAH yeah i love him because other people
describe him. AS tough i love him because other people
describe him, with grit that he loves, the city that
(30:07):
he loves.
Speaker 12 (30:07):
The organization he adds To the piston's reputation of being a.
Tough team, you, KNOW.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yeah i way too. Cynical HERE but i don't. NEED
to i don't need to be told Every Time isaiah stewart.
PLAYS well i don't need to be told that sorry
phone ring that, he is that he loves, the organization loves.
THE city i don't know WHY that's i don't know why.
(30:35):
That's necessary does anybody else? Do That lucas, Raymond scores oh,
my god he loves wearing the wing. Wheel. SWEATER man,
i mean he just loves. The city He's, FROM sweden
i know he still loves. THE city i, don't well
maybe it's maybe IT'S on i.
Speaker 12 (30:53):
DON'T know i don't know who asked, the question but,
YOU know, i mean what's he SUPPOSED. To jb bickerstaf's
just answer the question he's supposed. To do what's he supposed?
To say if someone, asks you What Does isaiah stuart
mean to?
Speaker 9 (31:05):
The, city, no no nobody asked. Him that they didn't
ask him what he means to the City. Of, detroit
honestly What Does isaiah stewart mean to the City?
Speaker 8 (31:14):
OF detroit i agree. With you i'm just trying to.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
Ask him what they asked him about is how about
the Play Of isaiah stewart and how important that is to? Your,
team well he loves, the city he plays. With, great, Okay,
Great no. I'M serious i mean, It's great you're great
that he plays. That way there's a lot of different
things you. Can say this is not one of those
situations where somebody's ripping on your teammate or your player
(31:39):
and you stand your ground and. Defend, them OKAY.
Speaker 12 (31:43):
But I guess i just don't look so deeply. Into
IT BUT i I know i. Get, point yeah THAT'S
why i said. Full disclosure way too literal and ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
That even have to go. THAT far i don't KNOW
why i.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Do that.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
But he was fantastic. Last night we can leave it
at he adds strength and power and. Rim protection and
he's added this to. His game it doesn't have to be. The,
grit okay he loves, the city he Loves. The, pistons
yeah it. HOPES so i mean he's making millions. Of,
dollars yeah, NO kidding, i mean, my goodness did You
(32:21):
See matt lufflur is viewed as this. Incredible coach we
get this up and down feeling with Certain coaches kevin O'Connell. And,
minnesota boy when you get your ass kicked By, the
chargers you're not, so smart? Are you and then suddenly
you Win, in detroit, and hey you, know what you're
(32:41):
a pretty, Good Coach. Dan, campbell oh now you've lost
to some pretty good teams on. Your schedule you lose
to the best teams on, Your Schedule green Bay And,
kansas city and we still don't know what they are
because we know what Grant Who green bay has, lost
to we Know Who kansas city's. Lost it and then
you Lose, to minnesota who you thought they were going,
to win SO Did i and suddenly people are. Questioning
(33:04):
him this is the, coaching. Profession Right matt lafleur was
seen as, this prodigy this. Brilliant, guy yep he went
for it on fourth and eight From the panthers thirteen
yard line with eleven.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Minutes left that's, So, bad sol.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
You, know, That right, you're okay. ALL right i.
Speaker 12 (33:24):
Didn't watch IT because i was At the, lions GAME
but i did see It. On, twitter Yes he farry
scrutinized play.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
And rightfully so that's, you know when people Talk About
dan campbell going forward on, fourth down they love to
use the STATISTIC and i can't help but wonder how
much it matters on, third down like theyir third. Down,
suck okay it's down like twelve percentage points from a.
Year ago they went from being TOP five i believe
(33:55):
in that category to, twenty second twenty third. This.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Year yeah, not, good right not good.
Speaker 9 (34:01):
AT all i wonder how much third down affects a
player's mind when they know they're going forward on. FOURTH
down a lot OF times i don't know the answer.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
To, that yeah that's a. Fair QUESTION something.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I wonder like they if it's third down, and six
well we don't, get six but we do. Get four
we know we're going, Forward anyway so what difference does?
IT make i doubt they feel. THAT way i just
those are random THOUGHTS that i have every once in.
A while so everybody makes a huge deal out. Of
that oh, MY gosh i. Can't believe, you Know the
lions go for it on fourth at Least When dan
(34:35):
campbell goes forward on, fourth down it's A smart you
could understand Why When matt lafleur's got eleven minutes to
go in a, close game he's at his own thirteen
and he goes ford on fourth down. And eight that's
a dumb decision that does not put your team in
(34:56):
a very good spot, at all and it Makes you
i'm sure People In green bay probably wonder. This too if,
you win you kind of gloss. That OVER but i
said this to. Somebody yesterday give me the best team
In The National. Football league somebody said to me Yesterday.
(35:16):
THE patriots, I, said okay they've lost To the raiders And.
THE steelers i know they've won four in a row
or six in a row or whatever, it is but
they lost To the raiders And, the steelers and nobody
feels Like the steelers are all that good.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Right now, they're solid but, you know losing To the.
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Raiders speak so, you Know the steelers are five, and
three same as, Your TEAM so i take. The reverse
i'm not trying to Be a lions, Fan here i'm
trying to take somebody. The, opposite no you're just trying
to be realistic. About, it, Yeah, right indianapolis we think they're.
Really good they deserve. To, be well if you're going
to Say the lions lost to the best team on,
Their schedule indianapolis lost to the best team, on Theirs,
(35:56):
the rams and then they just got. Blown, out yeah.
WASN'T points i guess it wasn't, a blowout but They.
In Pittsburgh, WHO again i take you back to our,
earlier argument not a.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Great team wasn't it.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Pretty much a two score game the whole, game though
for the, most part and then they came back at
the end and made it. Look close, but, yeah No
the steelers rolled.
Speaker 9 (36:16):
Over them so then you Debate. The, bills okay well
they lost To, the patriots who we already told you
who they, lost to and they lost To, the falcons
who were blown out thirty to Nothing. By, carolina yikes
that's a hard one to try and come to, grips
with don't YOU think i mean, that's yes when you're
trying to when you're trying to rationalize who's good, who's
not then that's a.
Speaker 12 (36:37):
Serious, Problem, NO shep i think this is an awesome
discussion because it goes to show how competitive the.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
League, is yeah Any given sunday to The.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
pH we've, Known, that yes and we still don't Absorb. At,
philadelphia okay they're the, world champs they're making moves good.
For them they lost to The. Flipping, Giants, Okay no.
I'M serious i mean these are THINGS that i shake
my Head At. Green bay i've already told you about
some of. Their. Losses, Tampa well tampa Lost. To detroit
(37:09):
they lost To. The eagles could you Argue that tampa's
lost to the two best teams on? Their schedule sure,
You could which brings you TO The. La rams they
lost To, the eagles they gave up a. Huge lead
they also lost To, the niners who what had? Backups
(37:32):
everywhere remember YOU and i were talking. ABOUT it i
think it Was Your.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
Daily wager yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
It Was mac jones suddenly is Picking the rams apart
with guys we don't know who are their. Wide receivers
they're the equivalent To the lion's Secondary. Against, tampa folks
my point is that for every team you, look at
for every belief you have in a, certain team somebody
could come back, and say hold on, A, second denver
(38:00):
you lost To, the colts who just lost To, the
steelers and you lost to in back to, at games
they lost To, the colts and they, lost, to Oh,
the chargers who at one point lost what three games in.
A row there are.
Speaker 12 (38:19):
Warts everywhere there's no clear cut front runner in, either Conference.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Right and If You're roger goodell and you're the executives,
on television you absolutely love. That stuff and you know
before you start, to, Go, well seattle. They're, unbelievable yeah
well they Lost To san francisco at the beginning of
the year and you.
Speaker 12 (38:39):
Trust, them well you talked about this a little. BIT
earlier i still Don't Trust. SAM darnold i don't know why.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
They also lost To. The bucks With the lions beat
handily with a backup at every single position in. The
secondary the, point, is folks this is the beauty With
The National football league is right now there's a lot
yet to be decided and a lot of things we
just don't. Know yet it's, fun stuff. All right thank
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