Should Trump have Agreed to the Debates with No Negotiation?

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Okay, it's on Trump versus Biden. We're gonna have at least two presidential
debates. One CNN will be moderating. It'll be Fake Tapper, Jake Tapper
and Dana Bash. As I saidin my opening monologue, these are two
anti Trump assassins. They're gonna goout. They're gonna be gunning for Trump.

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So it'll be essentially three on one. That will be on Thursday,
June twenty seventh, at nine pmEastern. And then there'll be a second
debate on ABC NEU September tenth,and that will of course most likely be
moderated, I assume by Stephie Stephanopolis, but they haven't announced the moderators yet.

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Trump has now offered a third debateor challenged Biden to a third debate
on Fox News. Biden's people havesaid absolutely not, no way. So
Biden wants two and done. Trumpwants as many debates as possible. He
is supremely confident. What do youmake of Trump's decision to accept Biden's challenge

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on CNN and ABC? Good move, bad move? Heidi in drake it,
Thanks for holding Heidi, and welcome, Hi Jeff, how are you
doing very good. How are you, Heidi good? I just have one
one piece of advice to Trump.All you have to do is walk in,
sit down and say no, no, Joey, thanks for inviting me

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here. But what's your favorite icecream? He's not to remember a single
answer after that, So you're sayinghe should be playing he should be playing
some mind games with with Biden onthat debate stage. Minke game shoe what's
your favorite ice cream? Maybe likeblah blah blah. He won't remember a
single answer what they gave him.He'll be totally distracted. That's all I

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in about an hour and a half. So anyway, okay, so

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let me ask you, what doyou make of this debate? Trump now
wants Biden to stand for the wholeninety minutes. Trump, in fact,
wants a two hour debate. Biden'speople are pushing for a one hour debate.
Listen now to Trump saying, look, let's debate, no problem.

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But the longer the debate, thebetter. And yes, I want Biden
to stand roll cut five, Mike, I think the president can stand up
for two hours. I think weshould go two hours. Yeah, I
think we should go too. Okay, let me turn. It'stant he wants
to sit down. You know,he wants to do things like he wants

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to sit down. I think adebate should be standing up. I agree.
I agree, don't let Biden sitdown. Obviously he wants to sit
down because the guy can't do adebate for and by the way, don't
give him an hour at a minimum, it's got to be ninety minutes minimum.
But I agree with Trump. Itshould be a two hour debate.
Look, if he's not going todo three debates, and again I don't

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want to you know, get technicalhere, but you know, since the
TV h which is what Kennedy Nixonin nineteen sixty, so since we've been
doing televised debates for over now,you know, what is it, sixty
plus years, we've always had threepresidential TV debates. Three Now Biden can't

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do three, so he only wantsto do two. Well, if you're
only going to do two, andone is on June twenty seven, and
why so early because of early voting, that's number one and number two.
I think it's quite obvious. IfBiden gets destroyed, I mean decapitated,
just eviscerated, then his handlers stillhave time before because remember the conventions in

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August for the Democrats, they stillhave time then to throw Joey under the
bus, to throw him overboard andreplace him with either a you know,
Kamala or Newsom or whoever. Sothat's why they want June twenty seven.
It's obvious, but it's got tobe Now, if for only going to
do two, then it should betwo hours. I mean, come on,

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I mean, we got the border. We've got crime, we've got
energy, we've got healthcare, we'vegot education, we've got foreign policy.
I could go on and on andon. The country's got serious problems,
serious crises, serious issues to discuss. Don't tell me one hour is enough

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or ninety minutes is enough. Anyway, it should be two hours, minimum,
ninety minutes. And Biden wants tosit for most of it. No,
no, no, no, youbetter stand. Now. If Trump
concedes even on this and says,okay, if Biden wants to sit,
let him sit, because that's theBiden campaign is pushing for that, then

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Trump should stand the entire debate.In other words, show the contrast.
He's sitting, I'm standing, hecan't stand. I can. I mean,
judge for yourself. It's pretty obvious. Ronnie in Stoughton. Thanks for
holding, Ronnie, and welcome.Good morning, Jeff, Hi Ronnie.

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So just the quick thing, Imean, the President of the United States
is the toughest job in the world, and you want someone in the White
House that is going to make thosedifficult decisions, go against the crazy leaders
of the world. Okay, it'son Trump versus Biden. Two debates minimum

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first, one CNN, Second one, ABC News. Let's go right back
to Ronnie in Stoughton. Ronnie,you were making, I think the obvious
point, but a very good one, that the job of the President of
the United States, the leader ofthe free world, is one of the
most difficult and important jobs, ifnot the most difficult and important job,

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in the entire planet. Please Ronniepick up where you left off. Hello
Ronnie, did we did we losecontact with Ronnie? Okay, let's see
if we can reconnect with Ronnie Din Middleborough. D thank you for holding

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and welcome. Good morning, Jack. How are you. I'm good?
How are you D? I amfine, Thank you. I went to
your rally. I thought it wasfabulous. Thank you, Thank you,
d D. If you were advisingTrump, what would you tell him.
Would you have told him to takethis deal or would you have told him
to renegotiate for better terms. Hecan do whatever he wants with this,

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because I think he's going to prevailas long as he sticks on point.
I mean, all the American peoplehave to remember. I think he had
a speaker earlier, Anthony. Hewas spot on. This was the most
important job in the world. Soas you're watching this, you're you are
an employer. You're looking at anemployee. You don't care about their wife,

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you don't care about their family.You're you're looking at an employee who's
going to do the best job.And you have an opportunity to reflect on
who's done the job between the twoof them, and who did the better
job. So forget Trump's here,forget the why, forget the families,
forget all that. Look at thejob he did, Look at the job

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Biden's done, the four job he'sdone, and then decide who do you
want to employ. I want toread to you a text message that I
got and I want to get yourreaction d because it's on a similar line
that you're that you're talking about rightnow. It's from seven eight one.

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You can text us seven zero fourseven zero seven zero four seven zero.
This is from seven eight one.Jeff Trump should just stick to the issues
during the debates, if they happenat all, and not make it personal,
or he'll be accused of bashing theelderly. In other words, if

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he sticks to the issues, hewill win, and win big. But
if he goes on the attack orgets personal or starts to insult Biden because
Biden is so frail. Remember Roberther said he wouldn't press charges against him
for mishandling classified documents because Biden isso old and so frail and has such

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a bad memory that no jury wouldconvict him because they take pity on the
guy. So that Trump almost riskscoming across as bashing an elderly guy,
you know, abusing the elderly.What do you think of that? D?
That just he should stick to theissues, exactly what you're saying,
and if he does, there's nothingBiden can do to stop him. That's

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exactly right. He needs to comein presidential I mean picture he's sitting there
with his grandfather. How would hetreat him? What would he say?
He needs just to stick to thepoint, do the job, you know,
stick to what his job is goingto be about, what he intends

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to do as much as he can, as much as they will give him
an opportunity to take out the personality, and just stick with what he's going
to do as president as much ashe can get out as possible. He's
going to prevail. How can henot? D Thank you very much for
that call, Ronnie in Stolton.Thanks for holding, Ronnie, and welcome.

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You couldn't get off me fast enough. But the previous collar captured my
points eloquently. And if I may, I just like to add one more
thing. He really can influence thosevoters that maybe that are in the middle,
that maybe haven't had their mind madeup yet, and tie it to
local issues like the ones who we'refacing in still In right now. They

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built a high school, they builtthe library, and we ended up absorbing
all that cost. And now theywant to build another school because they have
an influx of students. I wonderwhere those are coming from. And guess
what they're saying now. They wantto add another ten percent to our taxes.
So in the past three years,our taxes what I've gone up by
twenty percent. They did the samething with the sanitation department again, they

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said, oh, we're upside down, so now we have to reduce the
services and charge more. So thisis how he could really tie it to
everyday life and show that the politicsthat we have right now are failing the
American people. Ronnie, I'm justcurious when the moderators and they will they're

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going to hammer him. CNN they'regoing to go for his throat, and
he may want to talk about exactlywhat you're talking about, and I agree
with you, not one hundred onethousand percent. He should be talking about
illegal immigration, the border invasion,how it's destroying America, costing us so
much money, the economy, inflation, crime, Ukraine. I mean literally,

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you name it, Iran, theMiddle East, the world is on
fire. But they're gonna want totalk about January six. They're gonna go
on about Stormy Daniels, they're gonnago on about Egene Carroll. They're gonna
call him a rapist, they're gonnacall him a felon. They're gonna come
after him over and over and overagain. They're not gonna let him talk

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about all these issues. In otherwords, they're there to run interference for
Biden. That's why Biden said,I'm only giving you five networks. It's
got to be these five CNN,ABC, NBC, CBS, or Telemundo.
That's it. I'm not gonna doit on any other network because they

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know they're there to be his protectors, his defenders, and really his attackers.
So if you're Trump, it's like, you know, like the Colisseum,
the Roman Colisseum. You're not up. It's not one on one,
it's at least three on one.More likely they're going to give Biden the
questions ahead of time. They'll probablyhave an ear piece, somebody's feeding him

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the answers. It's going to berigged against Trump. Six ways to Sunday.
So if you're advising Trump, howdo you navigate all of that and
still talk to exactly what you're talkingabout? Ronnie, Well, it's kind
of This is what I'm trying tostay here, is that you should be

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able to handle the Putin of theworld, the end of the world.
This is his chance to come outand look presidential and show the world that
he can handle the job. Now, one more thing, with all these
trials and whatnot, the more theyaccuse him of, the higher his bull
numbers go. The American people isstarting to see through this. So if

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they go after him, I thinkit's going to work in his favor.
I'm interesting, Ah, interesting,interesting, Ronnie, Thank you very very
much for that call. Six oneseven two, six, six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number, okay, very very quickly. So this is
now Trump and he was asked specifically, well, hold on, I mean

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it's gonna be CNN. Man,it's gonna be ABC. The moderators are,
they're looking to take your head off. It's going to be attack Trump
from the second to debate begins.Listen to Trump's response, He's saying,
I'm not worried, I'm not anyand listen to what he's saying. He
goes, the whole media is againstme. So what, man, what

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difference does it make if I goon this network or that network or the
other network. It's gonna be thesame. In the end, roll cut
five a mike. I'd be willingto take anybody. You know, what
difference does it make. I'd bewilling to take anybody. But you know,

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the commiss and got caught cheating withme. You know that, Yeah,
turned down my sound remember so,yeah, that was in the twenty
twenty debate. They were playing withhis mic as well at the time.
But now I see this is myfear. Now it's agreed in the rules
that they could turn down his mic, and they have essentially control of his

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mic. Now in theory, theycan only turn it off to be fair
after his allotted time is over.So say, you know whatever, he
gets two minutes, Biden gets twominutes, So Trump finishes his two minutes.
Then they're going to turn him off. And when Biden speaks, they
want to make sure that Trump can'ttalk over Biden because they want to put

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a tape on his mouth. Myfear, and you tell me if I'm
right or wrong. I think they'regoing to turn his mic off all night.
In fact, I could see themgoing after him about January sixth and
him saying, you know, somethinglike what many of you are suggesting.
I don't want to talk about thepast. People are worried about the econ
me inflation, the border crime.That's what I'm focused on. And they're

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gonna say no, no, no, you're dodging the question, and then
turn his mic off, and thenthey're gonna browbeat him. You know,
the Commission came out saying you're responsible, you're an insurrectionist, you're a terrorist,
and they're just gonna browbeat him andbrowbeat him and keep turning his mic
off, and then the clips they'regonna get from that, that's what they're

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gonna play on the media, whereit's either Jake Tapper or Dana Bash just
ripping and tearing into Trump, andTrump not able to say anything because his
mic has been cut off. Somy fear is that this is an ambush,
that they've laid the perfect ambush forhim, and that's why CNN was

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so quick. Obviously they coordinated withthe Biden team. That's why Biden makes
the offer, He challenges Trump.Trump takes debit immediately, and then within
minutes they come out and say,oh, CNN has agreed to host a
debate. What a co chazam,what a coincidence. They're gonna try to

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make Trump look like a monster,paint him as a wild man. Six
one seven two six six sixty eightsixty eight is the number. Okay,
absolutely brilliant text. Brilliant text.I want to share it with all of
you and you tell me what youthink. By the way, the text
line seven zero four seven zero sevenzero four seven zero. This is from

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nine to one seven. Jeff,you may have made this point already,
but I agree how dangerous this isfor Trump on at least two levels.
The first if with all of thehelp CNN and ABC give Biden, which
will include hectoring and canceling Trump andBiden survives, it will be peru as

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a big win for Biden. So, in other words, his first point
is, I think it's dangerous forTrump in these debates because CNN and ABC
are going to help him so muchthat all Biden has to do is survive,
and people are going to say,Wow, he's not that demented,
he's not that far mentally gone.It's not as bad as everybody's making it

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out to be. So just survivingfor Biden will be seen by the media
and they will manufacture it into thisincredible victory, sort of a John F.
Kennedy over Nixon in nineteen sixty.But he says, here's the second
danger. But if Biden is sodebilitated, in other words, he falls
on his face, and the contrastwith an energetic Trump is so obvious.

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It will give the Democrat Party theimprimeter or the impromoter to replace Biden with
whomever is waiting in the wings.Remember this is all about manufacturing reality.
So think about it. Why wouldBiden's handlers want a debate this early?

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The first one, I understand there'searly voting, but in most states,
early voting only begins in early September. In fact, I believe by September
tenth, only about one million Americanswill be eligible to early vote. So
why this early? Never ever inAmerican history have we had a televised debate

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this early in the election cycle.Usually the election is really you know,
it's really considered, you know,an official election cycle after Labor Day,
I know, all things, youhave the conventions in the summer, and
but you know, usually it's LaborDay is the official kickoff of the president.
So we're going to have a debateon June twenty seventh. And to

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be honest, Trump is still notgoing to be the nominee. I mean,
he's the presumptive nominee, but untilthe convention in Milwaukee in July,
technically he's not the official nominee.And neither is Biden, neither is the
Beatle. So why why so early? I think clearly clearly one of the

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reasons is this is an insurance policy. You throw Biden out there, and
even with CNN doing everything they canto prop him up, and if Trump
still annihilates him, which is verypossible, then the Democrats are going to
turn around to the media, tothe powerbrokers in the party, to each

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other and say, look, wegot to throw him overboard. I know
he wants to be king. Iknow doctor Jill wants him to be king.
I know Biden doesn't want to gogo anywhere, but at this point,
we've got no choice. Look athim. I mean, he he
got you know, he got destroyedon television on CNN. So that will

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maybe set up the pretext to overthrowhim and replace him with either Kamala or
Gavin Newsom. In fact, that'sTrump's theory. Listen now to Trump saying,
look, I'll tell you why theypushed the first debate so early.
I don't think Biden's going to makeit to the convention, so they want
me to clawbor them to just knockthis guy into the third row, or

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is in boxing terms, knock himinto tomorrow, and then when I clean
his clock, they're going to turnaround and say we got to go with
somebody else. Listen now to Trumpsaying Biden will not make it to the
Democrat convention. Roll cut four,Mike, do you think if his inmity

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increases they will dump him mister presidentat the convention, replace him with Kamala
or Gavin or something like that.I do, I do I don't think
they'll have a choice. Will itbe Gavin, will it be Kamala or
somebody else? I don't know.I mean, Gavin's a terrible governor.
Gavin Newscombe, he's a terrible governor. I think he does a terrible job.

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I have things out in California,and you know, it's so beautiful.
Everything, the weather is the best, everything is so good. But
he just says a terrible job.So you don't notice how he's calling him
Gavin Uscombe, so you could tellhe's almost half he's almost half preparing himself,

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pivoting. Half of his brain isalready. Nah, it's not going
to be Biden. Either I'm takingon Kamala or I'm going to take on
as he calls him, Gavin Uscomb. He knew them from California. So
it's almost like, let me letme take on Biden, finish him off,
and then I'll finish off whoever theyput up next against me. Agree,

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disagree? Randy in New Hampshire,Thanks for holding Randy, and welcome.
Good morning, Jeff. How areyou today? Very good? How
are you, Randy? I'm doingfantastic. You've had some callings today that
have just hit it out of thepark in my view. Okay, Randy,

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I know you can't hear yourself onthe air, but you sound like
a robot right now. So there'sa technical problem on our end. Randy.
Can you are you still there?Randy? Is that better? No,
Randy, you still sound like you'rea C three po or out of
Star Wars. We're gonna try tofix it. We're gonna come back to
you. Okay, hold on,Randy, it's not you. It's us

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UFO in Brookton. Thanks for holdingUFO and welcome. Yes, Jack,
I have three points to go aheadof Trump shooting. Insist that you sit
down when you're not speaking, youstand up when you're speaking. Biden will
run out of energy. You needpeople to lift them out of the chair
after the first ten minutes. Mysecond point is right out of the gun,

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Trump needs to start nailing Biden leftand right. I would walk right
over to Biden and say, hey, Joe, let's be fair. Take
the teleprompter off, turn it off, pull that ear piece out of your
ear it it's feeding you the answers. Now let's have a real discussion.
You get them tough like that,you throw them off balance. And the
rest is a piece of cake.What's your opinion, Well, UFO,

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look, I agree with you.If there's any kind of a semblance of
a real debate, I think Trump'sgoing to knock them out. I don't
see Biden surviving the debate, andI wouldn't be surprised if there's a stampede
by the media. I think theNew York Times is going to lead to
stampede, to be honest, andthey're all going to follow, and then

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they're going to throw out some Democratssurrogates. They're gonna say, he's got
to go. He just can't,he doesn't have it. He's gonna lose.
He got, you know, hegot, he got, He got
embarrassed by Trump on national television.We still have time. We got another
six weeks. It's either going tobe Kamala or Newsome or somebody we can
throw in at the convention. Soif it's a real debate, that's what's

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gonna happen. My fear, UFO, is I think we're underestimating Biden.
And I don't mean his cognitive abilities. I'm talking about the people behind Biden.
We underestimated him in twenty twenty.He stole the election. He stole
it right underneath our nose. Heessentially robbed us of a red wave in

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the twenty twenty two midterms. They'vewaged this law fair against Trump, which
is boomeranging against them. Yes,but look, it's tied him in court
and he's one conviction away from goingto jail. You know, there's many
people texting into the show. Idon't know you feel about this UFO,
but they're saying, Jeff, Idon't know why we're talking about the debate.

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That judge is gonna put Trump injail. That jury when this ridiculous
record keeping book record keeping trial,the so called hush money case, that
jury and that judge, those thatcorrupt Democrat hack is gonna put Trump behind
bars. We're not going to havea debate on June twenty seventh. So

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what I'm saying, By the way, Biden is taunting him, I hear
your free on Mondays. So Bidenis taunting him, Sorry Wednesdays, I
hear your free on Wednesdays. Oh, by the way, his own son
is about to go to trial.So if I were Joe Biden, you
know people in glass you know peoplein glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

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But the point is he's taunting Trump, He's getting under Trump's He wants Trump
to explode, to get angry,and Trump has a bad temper. We
all know that it's his Achilles heel. So I think we're underestimating Biden's people.
And what they're looking at is theywant to portray Trump as a wild
man. And if they keep gettingunder his skin, and they keep taunting

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them, and CNN keeps attacking them, and they keep turning off his mic,
look, I can tell you this, UFO. The most frustrating thing
for me in the world is whenI'm being attacked and my mic is cut
and I can't defend myself. I'mtelling you, my temperature rises, the
steam starts coming out of my ear. I mean, I start getting upset.

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It's very upsetting. It's very frustrating. So I think that Trump,
if he's got a flaw, Ithink he's a little cocky. I think,
look, they stole it from you, and when a guy he steals
it from you, you better makesure he never steals it from you again.

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And I know Biden is a buffoon, but the people behind him are
pros. And look, nobody saidBiden would last, you know, three
and a half four years. Herehe is. He's still standing. So
if I was Trump, I wouldhave negotiated a much better deal. I

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don't want to leave anything to chance. And the one thing I never want
to lose control of is the mic, because if you lose control of that
Mike, you lose control of thedebate. And that's the one concession I
never would have made, UFO,what say you, I and some of

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the things you said, I agreeand some I disagree. Trump's been negotiating
his whole life. I'm sure he'sgot a lot of stuff up his sleeve
there that he can turn to.The Other thing is he needs to not
spend time answering these stupid questions onJanuary sixth and all that stuff. I
would just ignore them and get tomy point. Hey, look the economy's

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down. Hey look, housing pricesare through the roof. You know,
I would just nail them left andright like a boxer, like in a
movie rocket You're nailing them left andright. He's going to have to do
that, I agree. Look,UFO, he's got to be very You're
right, he's got to be verydisciplined, very focused, very restrained,
and if he does, this couldbe one of the greatest debate victories ever.

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But CNN is in Biden's corner,and I'm telling you this is where
Topper and Dana Bash are going toearn their money because they're directly coordinating with
the entire Democratic Party and the entireBiden campaign. So, yeah, you
want to get your points out,I hear you, But watch. I
mean, I'm telling you watch.They're not going to let them rip on

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inflation or rip on the border orrip on crime. They're going to keep
interrupting him and saying, but you'renot answering the question about January six,
and then turn his mic off forten seconds. I say, by why
I want you to answer about Januarysix, And then when he tries to
rebut they just keep so, theyfluster him, they block him. Think
boxing match. But the ref andthe judges are in the tank for Joe

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Biden. That's that's a tall order. I'm not saying it can't be done,
but that's a tall order. That'swhy again, if I was negotiating
this, I would have said nomoderators or neutral moderators or chiefs at a
minimum, I pick one of themoderators instead. The way I see it,

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he gave Biden the store because he'sso supremely confident that he just wants
him in the ring. Just gethim in the ring and I will kill
him. I hope he's right.It's a risk, it's a calculated risk.
We're gonna find out. June twentyseven, UFO, thank you very
much for that call. Okay,I think we got Randy back. Randy

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in New Hampshire. Thanks for holdingRandy and welcome. How's this? Can
you hear me? Yes, No, it wasn't you. It was on
our end, so please go ahead, Randy. No worries. Listen,
I'll keep it short. I thinkTrump handled this brilliantly in my view.
You know, he's not showing anyweakness. Let them make all the rules,

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big deal. You know, atthe end of the day, we
don't have to worry about losing supportersfor Trump that are already on his team.
Listen. Twenty twenty. Yeah,it was up in the air.
People didn't know how good they hadit. Now they know how good they
had it, and they know whatis a mistake. All we have to

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do is not win the debate.We just need to win a few rounds,
land some punches, because, let'sface it, I mean the liberal
viewers that are going to be watchingCNN, those that we need to influence,
they're all all that, right,But we just need to hit him
with the economy. We need tohim with the border, we need to
hit them with what they are goingto lose. All this is we're already

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so far ahead. We just needto gain additional voters. I don't think
we stand to lose any and rightnow, all Trump is going to be
talking about between now and the twentyseventh of June is how he is letting
them set the stage for this debate. He's going to tell his audience what
they're going to do ahead of time. People who watch this are already going

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to be prepared op se. They'veviewed it as Mike up Sea look at
that question. Look at how Biden'sgetting the softballs, and look at how
Trump is getting the hard balls.I don't think that this can go badly
for Trump. Right Let me askyou this because again you're making very very
good points, by the way,as did UFO Randy. Let me ask
you this because I think this isI think a key question that needs to

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be answered, because I think you'reright. If you're in for Trump,
you're in for Trump, and Ithink you're right. I think many independents
now realize they never had it sogood. They're like, we had no
idea how good we had ito.We want those years back. But I
think that's already baked in the cake. Randy. If you're going to vote
for Biden because you hate Trump,you're going to vote for Biden. If

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you're going to vote for Trump,you're going to vote for Trump. So
the question is who is who isTrump appealing to? I know who Biden
is appealing to. He wants toappeal to disaffected Democrats, disillusioned voters,
try to somehow scare them about Trumpwin them back. But who is Trump

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appealing to at this point? Tome? Are there any undecideds left?
Are there any real swing voters left? I think pretty much everybody knows who
they're going to vote for. Soif you're Trump, you always want to
have a strategy, and you're like, Okay, well, I really want
to win this group of voters.So who does he need to win in

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in your view to gain more voters? In my view, he needs to
speak to the people who fought toget into this country and make a life
for themselves, and how unfair itis that we've got people flooding over the
border right now and getting everything handedto him on a silver platter. He

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needs to appeal to the minorities.I'm interesting. I'm interesting. You're saying,
in other words, really go forthe black vote, the Hispanic vote,
whatever, the minority vote. Ifhe does that, and I guess,
you know, some suburban women reassurethem, Hey, look, I'm
not this wild man. You know, I'm not going to be throwing insults

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all the time and being on Twitterand all of these misconceptions that people have
about me. You're going to geta serious presidential Trump that's going to just
focus on your needs and your issues. Correct slowly. You had a caller
earlier that talked about the fact thatCNN is going to be controlling his demeanor.

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He's not going to have the audience, he's not going to have the
free reign that he's had in pastdebates. I think CNN keeping him discipline
is going to make him look morepresidential. Interesting. Interesting, Wow,
Okay, Randy, thank you veryvery much for that call six one seven

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two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Scott in Revere. Thanks for holding
Scott, and welcome Jeff. Ilove you. Just you away, my
friend, Thank you, Scott.What's on your mind? My friend?
Oh, Jeff? God works inmysterious ways, does he? So you're

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saying so you're saying you're not worriedat all. You think CNN is the
guy that's gonna they're going to helpdeliver Trump's victory in November. Think about
it. Think about what Biden setup Biden. There's no debate with Joe
Biden. There's no debate with JoeBiden. It's gonna be CNN versus Trump.

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That's what it's gonna be, becauseCNN is gonna tell Joe what to
say, by what, by what, tatmernor what do you call it saying?
But it's gonna be CNN versus Trump, ABC versus Trump, and Trump
hit it out of the park.And I'm telling you, if you look
at the twenty twenty debate, Trumpsaid, you vote for Joe Biden,
you'll get a third world. Whatare we in the third world? Biden

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said, Russia, Russia, Russia. When it comes to his son's laptop,
end of the lie. So allyou're gonna do is so highlight the
loss of the twenty twenty debate andhow many times Joe Biden lied with the
mediators. And then you say,all right, now prepare for this,
this foolish debate which everybody knows JoeBiden. Come on, the guys.

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You see he can't even sing tobring two sentences together. And you're gonna
tell me he's gonna debate Donald Trump, a man who is on the ball
as it gets. Lets me realistichere, It's like you like, I
believe Donald Trump is right, heknows that Joe Biden. This is a
setup for Joe Biden to get knockedout. So and I believe it's not

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gonna be Kamala, no matter.Come, he's gonna crush Kamala. Gave
me what tron. Kamala has thebrain of a peak, let's be honest.
So it'll be either Michelle Obama orthe full in California. He's the
one. One of those two willbe will be against Trump in the in
the in the presidential race. Andthat's how I look at it, Jeff,
you know, and Scott look tojust jump off of what you're saying.

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Look, Biden doesn't scare me,Kamala doesn't scare me, Newsom doesn't
scare me, and Michelle doesn't scareme. So if this is the all
the Democrats have, if this isthere, you know, bench, then
now I can see why Trump isvery confident. The only thing he's got
to lock down is the ground gameand prevent Democrats from stealing the vote.

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If he does that, he's goingto go march right back into the White
House. So and I think that'swhy Trump is supremely confident and he wants
to get Biden in that ring.Look, I'll be honest with you,
Scott. You may disagree with me. The guy of all of these four
that you mentioned, and I thinkhe'll crush all four of them. Don't
get me wrong, But at thispoint Biden is so wounded, so unpopular,

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so disliked, honestly, and theway I'll play the video on the
other side, even the way hechallenged Trump, he comes across like such
a jerk, such a nasty jerk. The guy I really want is Biden.
Again, you may disagree with me, so I'm thinking, well,

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I don't know, do we reallywant to knock him out, you know,
in June twenty. On June twenty, like you know, what is
it, six weeks or seven weeksbefore the convention? Like I'm thinking,
like I don't know, maybe youshould have had two debates in September.
In other words, get him throughthe convention and then he's all hours six
one seven two six six sixty eightsixty eight is the number. Let me

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ask you, do you think Bidenwill even make it to the convention?
Hell, will he even make itto the debate.