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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Buns and Banter, a podcast by work Busties
for work Busties. Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Ali. We're
both morning show hosts for iHeartMedia. We're both millennials, and
we're both trying to figure out how to build the
lives we dream about, dating, marriage, career, career, and being
a mom.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How to get through a week without crying. Welcome to
Buns and Banter. We're glad you're here. There it is.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think we start our podcast the same way every week,
and it delights me.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh the collective sigh.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, and waiting all week for this. Oh that's the carry.
Under would start to the NFL theme, right, Ben, We're
no week Sunday night, not good light, not good Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
If this doesn't work out, if we're not rolling in bookoo,
but pardon me and radio in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I will wear diamond dfringe watch out carry if it
gets us that kind of dope.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Woman show coming at you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh all right, speaking of speaking of ladies, let's let's
talk about this.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know I didn't really even give you any context
to what I wanted to ask, but I mean this
is bunsan banter. We are a two women show, and
we've never.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Really talked about periods. Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And I learned something I found fascinating and very affirmational.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh great on TikTok. Wonderful. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I'm interested to know if you are familiar with the
louteal phase and the follicular phase, the luteal phase.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, the luteal luteal. I think it's luteal. You know this,
I have.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I feel like such a bad woman never having learned
about this.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I know that like one of them is shortly before, yeah,
and one of them the luteal is before, and then
their one is like kind of and after.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, or is it between? It's like, so, I mean
this is per TikTok. I didn't even like web mday this.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The luteal is like the.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Four to five days ahead, like kind of that week
before you start your cycle, and then the follicular times
so right, and then the follicular is like right after
you're done, okay, And I'm so I saw this one
girl I got served her TikTok and she did this
facial transformation and she's like, I'm not using any filters
(02:34):
I'm not using any TikTok ai changes none of that.
This is literally my face in the luteal phase and
then gave like a time lapse all the way to
follicular and literally you can see like the bloating and
shininess and tiredness disappear over the course of a week,
like you physically change before your period. And the reason
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I got served this is because there's there's a dude
on TikTok that was asking out of curiosity. He goes,
I feel really dumb that maybe I should know this,
He goes, but I just asked a girl out and
she said I can't I'm in my luteal phase. And
he thought it meant like mercury's and retrograde. And I'm like,
looking through the comments, I'm like, I don't know what
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this is. And it made me feel so much better,
because can I tell you how I feel and how
I think I physically look A week before Mother Nature
pops into.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Life is horrible. Yeah, I had myself talked into a
what's this one? Thyroid?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yes, a thyroid condition my face. I was like, what
is going on with my face? Now? I might not
I might actually have a thyroid condition, because I don't
really if we're getting where are we going there? We're
getting close, we go everywhere here, close and personal. I
have an IUD, so I never like get a period.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh that's interesting. I wonder if you still get some
of the like effects. Couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I just was like, put it in, set it, forget it.
I'm good for seven years. I'll see you in seven years.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Amazing. I don't want to have to deal with any
of this because they're so lucky.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, I just I thought, you know what, this is
a Bunsen banter?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Do do do?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The more you know, the more you know, because I
had no idea. And then you're like, so the follicular
phase is when this girl on TikTok's like, oh my god,
ask me.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Out all you want.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I am glowing, I am energized, I am skinny like after,
but right after you have to be fully done. And
then she's like, I feel like I've shut a skin
and my like personal best is shining at least for
the next two and a half weeks. And then you
launch back in you know why you put more on
your period? No, because everything's like swollen and sloughing. And
coming off in there and it pushes on your intestines.
(04:50):
Oh my god, rooting and tooting and pooping during your periods.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm so fast.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
All O male listeners, gentlemen, come back, come back.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We're gonna talk too.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We got to talk about me pooping in a tackle box.
You can handle us talking about berriads. I think you
and I had very different health classes.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Public school versus Coutholic school. Oh yeah, I didn't know
any of this, and I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You know, the last time I felt really terrible about
myself when we shot our most recent pictures at Zigler. Oh,
remember I told you, I was like, I mean, right,
the dealership's gorgeous, everyone around me. I was like, I
felt like shit, luteal face.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's because I was in the luteal phase. You can
see it, Okay, yeah, the lute face.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And have you ever been in a do you take
pictures of the sunset or like the sky or anything,
and like then you look back at them and it's
never as good as it is in person, right, And
that's us. We take pictures of ourselves and we look
at them and they're just not as good as we
are because we are sunsets and moons and stars, and
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our beauty and our essence cannot be captured with a
freaking iPhone. Oh my god, So well remember that because
it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Do us justice.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That would have really helped me because I cried in
a Target changing room earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know what I did.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
It's just after I learned about this ludial follicular phase,
I went fucking Jean's shop. Oh Annie, are you kidding me?
The amount of failure I set myself up for? Yeah,
it wasn't It was not good, And honestly, I'm not
I don't want to call out anyone specific but universal threads.
(06:33):
I don't believe that you have proper lady sizing, because
there is no way I was the size that you
were telling Oh it was terrible, But I picked out
my typical size, the next size up, and I literally
like wouldn't even reach to my belly button. And I'm
like sobbing in this Target dressing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Room, don't. I don't know if this is an actual thing.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I haven't researched this, but it seems to me that
in times when like, because you know, everything that we
keep hearing is like the economy and like we might
be in a recession and like everything's kind of pointing
to that. And I think that the textile industry, in
the clothing industry, is the first thing that like the
first thing that gets messed up with that like cuts
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corners and likes to sizing gets all weird and there's
no U continuity not continuity.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What am I?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
What am I thinking of? Like no consistency? Yeah, like
there's no consistency over that. I think that they just it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, it hurts my well being, Yeah, it really does.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I was really excited.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was like, you know what, I'm going to be
more of an adult this fall and winter. Yeah, I'm
gonna wear jeans absolutely not Yeah, get ready for schmidty
and leggings round billion because I felt so terrible about myself.
Oh it sucks, you guys, it's so hard to be
a woman.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Sucks walking into a store and not knowing what size
you're gonna be in, and like trying clothes on in
the store is such a triggering, over stimulating experience. Yeah,
and having to like grab the size that you think
you are and like maybe you grab the one higher
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and then trying those on in like the internal battle
that we fight with that and then having to go
back because those two sizes still aren't the same. Yeah,
so now, okay, this is the one that fits. Gotta
buy this because we got to have clothes to go
on our bodies. And then you want to and then
you go to another store to buy a different pair
(08:35):
of pants and you grab the size that you are,
and that one's wrong, and it's like, is this something
that guys struggle with too? Like you are a different
or are you like I'm a thirty four wherever I am?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Because like my husband will send me out, like he'll
if I'm going to a.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Store or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He will literally be able to look at me and go, oh,
you know what, I do have a hole in my
favorite pair of jeans? Can you grab me another like
medium one? And then just gives me his measurements like
I don't know how men are, like thirty two, I'm
a thirty two, twenty eight or whatever. Yeah, never a problem.
He literally doesn't even have to try them on. They
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fit him across the board every time. Does not matter
the brand, does not matter what kind of pant it is.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So I don't know if it's if it's an issue
for dudes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But let me tell you, I will never be changing
in a public changing room outside of my follicular phase.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Again, it was terrible. Did you go to the Target?
Oh in Rockford?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Is there one in Rockford?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So I went to the twenty eighth Street. One twenty
eighth Street, okay, which has like very skinny fit women.
They readed the changing rooms? Oh did they? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Okay, you know, because it wasn't great. No, half of
them weren't operational. Yes, and that doesn't make me feel
good either.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
In the lighting, I'm sorry if you want us to
buy clothes and you just put good lights in there,
and like skinny mirrors, like yeah, to do is like
tip the mirrors down a little bit because I don't
care what size I'm buying. If I feel like I
look good in the mirror, I'm buying that shit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean, I'm talking like.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
A three degree tilt is really all you need, so minuscule,
but it will, in a soft light.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Make all the difference. I will buy all the things
if I feel like I look good in them.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You know, we were just talking about like the economic downturn.
Here is your here's your chance. You would turn this
entire world's economy around if you just let us look
good in the things that we're gonna buy, and we're
gonna buy them.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, we gotta we gotta help Taylor swift out. She can't,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Like she can't hold the carry the economy past this tour.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
We're running out of time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm glad that I could impart some of that knowledge.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I was blown away.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I went down a weird Benstrel cycle TikTok black hole yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So there you go. Always learning, We're always learning. I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The female body never ceases to have something to share in,
something to learn.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Like now we need to like snap and be like
and welcome back to our gentleman audience, thank you for joining.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, we should say that in the beginning, we should
tell him like you can fast forward to this part.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So I got to recap the weekend, the wag weekend.
Pardon you.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I was so committed to hear. I was like stalking
your social It was.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So much fun. Oh good, it was so much fun.
They did so well, they played so well. I was
a little bit nervous and a little bit anxious, and
again very new to like watching a significant other play
sports at a high level. M yeah, one of the
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and other girlfriends and wives also go as well. And
by the end of the weekend I had one of
the wives put her arm around me and say, you
really came out of your shell this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh my god by the end of it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It didn't start this way, but by the end of it,
I was yelling at referees. I was yeah, I was
yelling at other players, and I was yelling at their fans.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We found a new Oh I am proud. What what
was it?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Maybe sort of misdirected anger and rage. Yes, it's been
a really, really shitty past couple of months, and I
finally had an outlet and it was like I couldn't
control myself in some of those moments.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And then I was feeling bad because I was like,
maybe I shouldn't stand with the other family members, wives
and girlfriends because maybe this is embarrassing for them to
like be associated with. But then they like were doing
it too, so I was like, oh, no, I'm in
good company.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Can I can we get an example of like what
an Ali Mackie yell sounds like, did you like hurl
some insults?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I did?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
WHOA, I'm like pretty much turned on right now by you.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I did well, Like at one point, Yimmy, he didn't
start this fight, but like he's very much like he
won't start it, but he will end it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh hell hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And the other the other teams were just like there
were a couple of them, two teams specifically, they were
really chippy and they were getting some calls from the
refs that like we weren't getting. So I was, you know,
I'm a libra, I'm the scales, I'm balance and I'm fairness,
and when every day I get a whiff of injustice,
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I am on high alert. So like and then like
you start watching closely and you can sort of tell
which of the players are.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Like talking shit.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And I could tell that this one guy had just
been in his year year and in his ear and
I and I'm like, I hope he's not holding back
for my sake. So finally, like this guy just he
started some shit with him and I was like.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh here we here, we fucking go.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Like the gloves come off, the sticksdrops, like they get
all like locked up, and the helmet comes off, and
like I couldn't it just it came out and I
was like, end it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh that's so good.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And they were all like, oh no, he's like gonna
get a penalty, and I was like kick his ass,
like I wanted it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So bad and it felt Did it feel so good
like a full release?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, it felt really good. It felt really good. And
he did get a penalty, and at one point he did.
This wasn't the same game, but in one of the
games he did get invited to leave the game.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I mean invited is not forced out.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
And that one wasn't his fault, that one wasn't his fault,
that one was unfair, and those refs were bad.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Those refs were so bad.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And they ended up they ended up losing to the
team that won it all oh only by two. So
I guess, you know, if you're gonna lose to a team,
you want to lose to the team that like wins
the whole thing. That's hard, though, But I just like
did not like the team that won it. I didn't
like them, and I didn't like their fans, and I
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didn't think that they deserved it, and I thought that
they were getting a lot of help from the refs
that number one they shouldn't have got and number one
and number two they didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Need certified wags. And I love listening to you right now,
and I just.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I had this moment at the games where I turned
to one of the wives who's also a mom, who's like,
kids like play lacrosse and okay, yeah, you know, and
I was like, I I don't understand how you guys
do this and watch your kids and you don't completely
lose your shit because this is my partner. But if
this was something that came out of me, like this
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is my flesh and blood, I would kill someone. Not
act that doesn't hold up in a court of whys.
That's hyperbole, I promise, But like, I don't know how
you watch will at football get I just get infuriated.
I was telling my mom this and she was like, well,
that's why we always had special drinks, and I was.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Like, oh, yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Our coworker had a water polo daughter and he was like,
I've got to tell you there is no other sport,
especially with women, that will piss you off more than
watching what other girls will do.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
To try to drown your kids.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, he said it was terrible, Like there were times
where like girls will file their toenails to a point
so that they can like scratch you and stuffew. He
said it was unreal and he would be in the
stands like watching these water polo matches. He's like, I
was a complete monster, like the human in me was gone,
and the things I would yell, we they don't want
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like water shoes in there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't think so ooh, that's it's insane.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And he's like, man, when it's your kid, like, ooh boy,
it is just a different monster. Yeah, but you're getting
good practice in because it ends.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Am I Or that's a really good one.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Am I Just getting more comfortable so that I, like,
I say, more off the wall things.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Either or I'm gonna sit next to you and absolutely
hg you on.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I started I started.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The weekend like kind of off by myself, like sitting
by myself, being very quiet, and like I ended the
weekend with these ladies being like.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Who is this chick? So, and they like love you. Well,
I felt kind of bad about it.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And I still I'm not like anxiety, but I have
like game anxiety where I'm like I don't know if
they're gonna invite me to sit with them anymore, and
like they're super cool, I'm sure they will, but also
it would be in bounds for them to tell me
to just shut up.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'd make T shirts that had like the arrow that
was like I'm with her, book them up, Like that's
what I would do. I'd be super stoked if you were,
because lacrosse is is a crazy intense sport.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It is it is, and you know it just it
was a great, great, great weekend. Can't say as much
about Utica New York though. Oh yeah, it's just like
a very uh does the rust belt mean anything to you?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Kind of sort of like it just like there.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Wasn't a lot going on, yeah, Utica, okay, and the
things that were going on in Utica made you kind
of look twice and walk a little bit faster.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Not too.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You know, depress any of our Utica listeners. But really,
the only thing I know about Utica New York is
things I've learned from the office.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's what we were kind of thinking too.
And don't get like there were some cool spots in Utica, sure,
but then there were also some m Every town.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Has has got them walk a little faster. Yeah at
certain point, don't wait for the whole red light. Yeah. Yeah,
what a weekend. Yeah, what a weekend. What a weekend
it was.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It was so much fun, and I I can see
I want to like, I want to do it again.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Now I want to see an intense championship lax game
with Yimmy, you and the stands in the luteal phase.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And I want to film. No one wants to see it.
No one wants to see it. I do.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And his best friend also met us there because his
best friend lives in that's right in Brooklyn, and he
did end up getting his own room, so he did
not stay with it, okay, which I was like kind
of taking that a little bit personally because I was like,
he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Want to have sleepomers what's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
But then I realized, like, oh no, the only rooms
that this hotel has left are uh like queen singles,
So there would not have.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Been Yeah, there would not It wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But even we're not in anymore, yeah, trying to save money,
like we kind of made it work.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
But even his best friend was like, she is very
invested in in this game, and like very invested in
like watching you, and she got a little intense total compliment.
Are we bad people? I would take it as a
total compliment.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I'd be like, wait until you can see the
tapestry of profanity I can weave in an athletic event.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But it was like it was so many things that
I was taking in and like I am a I
wanted it all because I you know, it's just like
to see your person in like different environments. So it
was fun to see Jimmy in like a competitive sector
but like so cool. But then like his best friend
was there and like getting to see them together, I
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was like, this is like very cute because they have
been best friends since they were like very little, and
that's just a different kind of friendship. And there are
a lot of things that make sense to meet Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, it's always great, isn't it to get a glimpse
through childhood best friend eyes?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, he was super cool and I was a little
bit nervous about meeting him because I like, this person
is like very important to Jimmy, So I was like
I want to make a good impression, and like Jimmy's
worried about performing well in sports. I'm worried about performing
well socially. But then he was like super chill and
super cool and we.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Got along great.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I feel like you're very much giving me like Tay
and Travis vibes.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
No, I'm saying it. I'm saying it, oh man. But yeah,
so that was a nice shiny bright spot.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, I married the guy who played football. But we
go to the high school games early to watch the band.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah. I love that. That's okay too.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I love that he's great. Yeah, he was a percussionist.
I know who I'm married.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Drummer.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's I think he was the symbols symbols.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh does he still have them? No? No, I think
we're okay with that. Well, he could pass him down.
I don't know. He's he's lucky he found me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
See, this is like, this is very similar to like
Yimmy and I as well, because when Yimmy thinks about kids,
he thinks about like taking them to their sports and
like teaching them how to play lacrosse and like teaching
them how to play golf. And I'm like, I hope
we have a drama kid.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And he's like you would and you'd be in the
front row and you'd be the loudest one.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And I'm like, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Chris is really good, like he still loves football, like
he's been teaching well all about it. But I'm over here, like,
have you heard of my fair lady? You know what,
We're going to create beautiful humans that are just gonna
be weird and wonderful just like us, and to fly
their freak flag.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, that's the best kind. There's the mantra.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's the best kind. It'll be a little bit of
you and a little bit of Chris, oh my god,
and a lot of freak and a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah. I love this. I love it so much. But
how is flag football going? It's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He I think he likes it. I don't think it's
his thing. I don't know if he'll do it. You know,
we've done three like seasons now, and he's just such
a kind kid. He just has a hard time taking
things from people. Yeah, so he still struggles, like to
pull a flag or you know, he likes dancing with them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's it's fine, It's we didn't he didn't come from
super overly athletic parents. I mean, like I was actually
super super freaking good at softball, but like it's a
it'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I just want him to meet friends and be good.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And if I don't have to sit on the sidelines
and watch my kid not really care about a sport,
which it turns out I'm not patient enough to do
very well, that might be best case for everyone. Yeah,
we'll start other things, maybe soccer.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
He took the.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Lax camp, loved that, he really liked his lacrosse camp,
so we might give that a try in the spring.
But I'm just I'm very competitive, and I feel like
i'm a very very poor parent when it comes to
like just go out there and have fun, right Like,
but even though they're not keeping score, I am just.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just wait because I feel like Sophia will be Yeah,
I feel like she'll have that m edge.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I've been showing her a lot of Ilona mar content lately. Yeah, yeah,
breaking Sports illustrated swimsuit cover.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah that's what we want to see.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
So yeah, I think my boy will be so kind
and wonderful and probably find maybe a little sport he enjoys.
Like Sophia is going to need to bowl people over.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, she's gonna contact ones she don't want.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yes, yes, yeah, I had a female linebacker in high school. Yes,
we did varsity and she killed people.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, or so.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I could also see Sophia like just like being like,
you know what, I'm not gonna play.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I'm just gonna coach. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna coach.
She does that to my parenting too,