January 26, 2025 • 29 mins
Portland General Electric and the Oregon Clean Fuels Program have created a website called Oregoin Electric to answer your questions about owning an electric vehicle. Radon is a colorless and ordorless gas that could be in your home, but there's a way to detect it. The deadline to get REAL ID is only a few months away, and you don't want to wait. Another cat in Oregon got bird flu, there are precautions you can take with your pets.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome Local Voices. I'm brad Ford. This week, Portland General
Electric wants to answer your questions about what it's like
to own an electric vehicle. Radon is an invisible gas
that can potentially cause cancer and could be in your home.
We'll tell you how to detect it. The deadline to
get real ideas coming up will tell you what it
means and how to get a real ID license. Plus
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another Oregon cat gets bird flu why it's different from
the first case, and how to protect your pets. Have
you wondered what it's like owning and driving an electric vehicle?
Portland General Electric has a website that'll help answer your questions.
It's called oregoan Electric and was made possible by the
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Oregon Clean Fuels Program. Joining us on Local Voices is
an Eke stressa with Portland General Electric. Aneke. What is
the goal of the Oregon Electric website?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The purpose of the site on an Electric site is
to provide Orgoning's with the one stop shop when researching
how to transitions to that's. It highlights the use TV
market rebate and on using in new vehicles, as well
as state or utility rebate programs.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
For how was driving an EV different from driving a
gas vehicle.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
UH.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
In many cases it's not cars or cars, right, They
both drive pretty similar accelerator gas pedal eves tend to
be a little bit quicker off the line the silent
uh because they have no engine. They also have something
called re kindtive braking, which allows e to charge itself.
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It's battery when when under breaking.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So I've heard about range anxiety, and I suppose that that's,
you know, the concern about running out of battery power
when you're on your trip. Is range anxiety something to
be concerned about.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It depends on the person. I think. For someone who's
doing road trips quite often, then yes it can be.
But for the normal person sin as myself, who only drives,
you know, fifty two hundred miles a week, it's not
that big of a deal. Most new unis go over
two hundred fifty miles on a charge, and so you
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really only charge it once every couple of days, a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What's it like finding a charger away from home or
away from your apartment.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's definitely getting easier. Apple Maps, Google Maps, they all
and a bunch of different apps have the chargers built in,
so when you're planning a route, it will actually include
stops you put in your make a model.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So how long does it take to charge?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It depends on the vehicle. It's like normal gas cards.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
If your truck has a bigger guess tank than your
small car, then it takes longer. For level two, which
is what people have usually at home, it can take
any or from eight to ten hours, but new modern
vehicles can charge on fast chargers within ten to thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, so you mentioned level two in the fast chargers.
One of the different type of chargers is there, just
like the bait? What's Level one? Is that the one
where you just plug it into the wall, right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, so your your level one is one hundred twenty
volt so basically the same thing you plug in your
phone for. And then level two is something like a
dryer out at two hundred and forty volt, usually typically ordwired.
And then level three or DC fast charging is something
you can't install at home and usually something you see
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on the roads of bigger chargers that are closed like
a gas station experience.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So do the different chargers work with all vehicles?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Mostly the different those three different types have their own adapters,
and most vehicles can take all of them. As of
twenty twenty five, a lot of bars are to what
they call the Tesla Adapter style, so that new US
can really use utilize the Tesla supercharging network.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So how do you deal with long mile edged road trips?
You talked about, you know, having your car and driving
it around the metro and two hundred miles is adequate
go home recharge and you're good, But say you take
a trip to Montana, how do you deal with that for.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Longer road trips? I try to plan ahead as much
as possible, you know, just making sure I have a
route mapped out, including stops. I have a kid, so
we need to solve regardless. But really just making sure
that you know, you're paying attention to the battery life
as you would pay attention to the gas or as
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you're driving, and then just making sure the map is
correctly and then you have a little bit more charge
than you expect you need when getting to next destination.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So are more charging stations coming to Oregon?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, PG and other utilities are helping argue manufacturers come
into Oregon. We have some of the most charges of
any state behind Dalifourni, and Washington, and it's just increasing
and increasing. You'll see them more often and in more places.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So what about people living in apartments? What options do
they have as far as getting a charger or charging
electric vehicle?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes, so the DC fast charging as we mentioned for
level three, those are great options for people living apartments
because it gives enough charge for about legally use depending
on the average user. But more and more important of
things are also adding charging options as well. If you're
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a level one outlet, you can get plenty of charge
for the week just by charging every night. Utilities are
also trying to incentivize multi faily thus owners to put
in charging as we as they install new parking spots.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So looking at the life of the vehicle, not not
just how far can I go on one battery? But
how long do the batteries last? Do they ever need
to be replaced?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Great question? They do so like your engine typical batteries. Actually,
the newer batteries can last you three hundreds of five
hundred thousand miles. They're becoming more and more reliable. Studies
that said the battery will outlast the body of the
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car most likely. But you're seeing already some million mile teslas,
a million mile ni leafs, so they're it's already, it's
already out there, and they're getting more and more liable,
and the cost to replace them is getting keeper as well.
It costs a lot quite an engine, so it's it's
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kind of a similar experience, but it is getting cheaper
as the technology grows.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, that's that's interesting about the million mile vehicles. I
know when EV's first came out, probably with the Prius,
I guess is where I heard it. But they're like,
you know, ten years they need to be replaced, but
the technology is improving, and so that's getting longer.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Absolutely. Yeah, you know, not every individual EV will last
that long, but it is getting better, and you're seeing
more and more high usage vehicles and you're getting more
and more reliable. And this is what we call the
state of charge. So how much charge your battery can
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hold is improving as well, similar to kind of like
your your phone and where you know, after you charge
it so many times the data charge goes down, but
it's getting it's improving for.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Batteries. Sure, so does cold or hot weather have an
effect on battery life?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It wouldn't say it has a effect upon battery life,
but it does have an effect on the charge itself.
So in cold weather, when you're using a lot more
equipment such as the heater, the froster, your battery range
is going to go down. And similar with hot weather
when you're using the AC. But it's similar to you,
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you know, a gascar where there's a there's a temperature
that makes it the most efficient, which is usually you know,
sixty to seventy degrees. And the same with gas bar vehicles,
right because in cold weather, again, your gas my lige
is typically lower, and so it is in hot weather.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So what types of questions should I ask to learn
about different models of evs before I make a purchase?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I would say, similar to what you do normal any
car research. You know how bit of a car I need?
You know what kind of efficiency can I live with
in terms of range, really kind of understand your daily
needs because you'd be surprised how much you actually drive
for I mean, how you might actually drive and how
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much rank you And then just ask the normal questions.
You need all wheel drive? You get by with two
wheel drive? What is the point of the cars of
your plumbing carr car et cetera. Then understand your charging needs.
Can I charge the car home? Do I have somewhere
to charge it? If not, we're the closest charging stations.
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And then you can also check out your local utilities
website for discount or chargers install that home.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
There are a couple of different types of evs, right,
there's the hybrid or a plug in hybrid or electric.
Explain the difference between those.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, so you're regular hybrid uses a gas an electric
engine and you never have to charge it. A plug
in hybrid use the same concept that you have, charge
the battery and it can go quite a distance on
just the battery alone, and but usually not as far
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as a full ect vehicle, so you'll eventually have to
use the gas power engine as well. And then your
full electric or what we call battery electric vehicle is
doesn't use any sort of gas at all, and those
are typically cleaner, quieter, and can go a lot longer
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on a on a charge the battery.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So what about buying an older EV? A used EV?
Is that something that people do and and what do
you want to look for in doing that? I would
imagine the battery batteries ability to maintain a charge or
how much charge the charging capacity.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yes, you're absolutely correct. People are buying especially or easy,
especially since there are for there were federal rebates and
state rebates. Pretty use evs status charge. As you mentioned,
it's a great thing to look at and the general
overall health are making sure it was damaged and battery damage,
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taking mechanics make sure everything that's okay is always great.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So are there issues finding EV repair shops? I mean,
you know there's gas power shops all over the place,
but is it is it difficult to find an EV
repair shop?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's a great question. Evs don't require as much repair
per se. It's usually if something goes wrong, it's usually
replacing a battery. One of the great things about EV's
is that there's less moving parts, so there's less maintenance
versus a gas bar, where there's an oil change, there's
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the time bell, there's a number of different things where EV's.
I've had one for a four years and the only
thing I've replaced the winter vapors and the winter liber fluids,
which in total has cost me fifty dollars. So it's
been pretty great and I think we will probably see
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more dedicated battery shop, but we probably won't need as
many either.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So if you get an older EV, say and the
and the battery is not holding charge anymore, maybe you
get an EV for say four thousand dollars. Is it
realistic to say, well, let's just put a new battery
in it and then I've got a pretty decent EV.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, you could do that, or you could just run
into the ground before you have to do it. They're
doing a great job of recycling batteries. If if you
want to put a new battery, you would definitely get
a lot a longer life than it. It's just a
little costly to do so because it's like replacing it.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I imagine it depends on the battery. But what like eight
ten thousand dollars something like that is what I've seen.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, yeah, it definitely depends on the battery size and
the battery and individual vehicle. But older Nissans were getting
down to like five six thousand. But it's probably for
some older Tesla's it's probably around the eight thousand ten
thousand range.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And from what I've read, it's not something that the
you know, home garage mechanic can do because of the
voltage involved. It really is something you need to take
into a shop.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Unfortunately. Yeah, it's a bit it's a bit dangerous to
do on your own. It's it's highly recommended to have a.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So what's it like driving an EV? I mean, I know,
the gas car, you've got the engine, you've got the noise.
If you're driving an EV, is it is I would
imagine it's quieter.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's definitely quieter. That acceleration is great off the line,
but also funny enough, some evs have pumped in noise.
It doesn't sound like a gas car.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, I've heard that, but I.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Think BMW did something with on Zimmer. So a lot
of the bmwevs have probably theoretical noise. I haven't actually
hear there in one, but it just we there's a
lot of pool up, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, when driving through parking lots. Before they had the
noise associated with a car, you wouldn't really realize if
you're walking through a parking lot that there's one coming
up behind you. And so that's kind of why they
added the noise. I mean, some of them kind of
have a music sound or they make some kind of
a sound when they're traveling at slow speeds.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I think there is general regulation. I think you
mentioned the Prius before. That was one of the things
that started. We're like one hundred and twenty five miles
per hour or something like that. Cars had to make
noise that people could hear them coming because there was
a risk of getting hip. It is really quiet vehicles.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So if people want to learn more about pges Orgo
and Electric, is there a website they can go to.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, it's just orgoanelectric dot com, oh R E G
o I N electric dot com and it's a great
resource for all things evs and learning more.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I mean thanks for joining us on local voices. That's
Nickue Shressa with Portland General Electric in their website or
Ago and Electric. It's a terrific resource to learn more
about electric vehicles, and it's made possible by the Oregon
Clean Fuels Program. Portand General Electric will be at the
Oregon International Auto Show February twentieth through the twenty third
and they'll have an EV ride and drive so you
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can do a test drive for free. Again. The OReGO
and Electric website is o R E G o I
N Electric dot com. Viering in Health Authority want you
to check your home for radon. It's a dangerous gas
and you wouldn't know it's in your home. Brett Sherry
is the program manager for oaha's Healthy Homes and Schools Unit.
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It oversees the Oregon Radon Awareness Program. Brett what is radon? So?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Radon is a naturally occurring radioactive gas that comes up
out of the ground. It's a problem because it could
build up to dangerous levels in our homes. And the
main health concern with radon exposure is lung cancer. So
radon is the second leading cause of lung cancer, second
to cigarette smoking. It's actually the leading cause of lung
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cancer in non smokers.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Are there certain geographic areas where raydon is more likely
to occur? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Raydon is a natural part of the environment, so it's everywhere.
You can find it in varying concentrations all around the world.
It's formed by the breakdown of uranium in soil, and
most soil and rock has some level of uranium in it.
Some types of rock have more higher concentrations than others,
so for example, granite soil, so granitic soils have higher
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concentrations of uranium which tend to break down into radon gas.
So it does vary by geography depending where you are.
But the interesting part is you never really know. You
can't really base a decision about a radon potential in
an area on the surrounding test results, so you actually
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might be the only house on the block that has
high radon levels. Very it's kind of hit or.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Miss what's involved in learning whether radon is in a home.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So the best thing to do is go out and
test your house for radon. It's relatively inexpensive to do.
There are home test kits available that you can purchase.
They're around twenty dollars and you can do the test yourself.
You send that test to the laboratory and they'll send
you the results. So radon is measured in pico quiris
per liter, and the Environmental Protection Agency recommends that anything
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that's for picocuri's per leader or greater that homeowners take
some steps to reduce those concentrations. The World Health Organization
has a more conservative number of two point seven picocuris
per leader. There's really no healthy exposure to radon. The
lower the better, but we're never going to get to zero.
The outdoor concentration on average in the United States is
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point four picocurris per leader. So basically the EPA's action
level is ten times what you'd be exposed to in
the outdoor air.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So if radon's found in a home, what needs to
be done?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And luckily, this is a problem that has a pretty
simple fix. If you find out you have elevated radon
levels in your home, you can contact a radon mitigation
company and they can come out and install a radon
mitigation system, which essentially basically pulls the air from underneath
your home and vents it up above the roofline. So
any of that radon gas that's coming up and bumps
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into your foundation or your cross space, these systems draw
that air out and vents it up above your roofline,
so it basically bypasses your house.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Does the Oregon Health Authority have a place where people
can learn more? We do.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You can find a lot of information on radon on
our website at www dot Healthorregon dot org slash radon.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Anything else you'd like to add, just kind.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Of a simple message, right, protect your family, protect your pets,
protect yourself, test your home for radon, and breathe a
little easier.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's Brettsherry, program manager for oah's Healthy Homes and Schools Unit.
It oversees the organ Radon Awareness Program. It monitors which
areas of the state have the potential for high RADON
levels and identify as regions where educational outreach efforts need
to be focused. The program is offering a free radon
test kit to residents whose homes are in ZIP codes
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with fewer than twenty radon test results. Residents can learn
more about the free Radon Test Kit program and how
to apply at healthregon dot org. Forwards. Radon free test
kits are available while supplies last. If you planned to
fly after May seventh, you probably need real ID and
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the Oregon DMV doesn't want people waiting until the last
minute to apply. Chris krab is with the Oregon DMV. Chris,
what is real ID?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Real IDEA is a state issued driver's license Instruction permitter
ID card that meets federal security standards set by the
real ID Act of two thousand and five. So the
purpose of real IDA is to make US identity documents
more consistent and secure.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So what do we need it for? Is flying? The
only thing that we would use it for?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
So starting May seventh, the federal government's going to require
every air traveler eighteen years in older to present a
real ID or an acceptable alternative, which includes a passport
or a passport card or a military ID. And that's
to board a flight within the US or to access
certain federal facilities. Those include like new your power plants
and military bases. But flying is really the big one.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Here, so it's involved in getting real ID. How do
we do it?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's actually pretty simple. You have to do it at
a DMV office. You can make an appointment at DMVTU
dot gov or walk into any location. The key here
is that you're going to be bringing in original documents
that prove your identity, your date of birth, your state address,
and your lawful status in the US. You also have
to provide a Social Security number. You don't have to
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bring in your card, but you will have to provide
your number or proof that you are not eligible for one.
So we really encourage people to go on to DMV
to you dot organ dot gov because we have a handy,
useful online documents guide that will help you create a
checklist of what to bring. There's really nothing more frustrating
than getting to a DMV office and being told you
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don't have the right documents, So we encourage people to
do that first. Once you've gathered your documents, you can
make an appointment to get a real ID appointment online
or you can walk into any DMV without an appointment.
Both are perfectly acceptable. So once you get there, the
DMV is going to accept and scan your submitted documents
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and then you'll get a temporary paper card and then
your real ID card will usually arrive in the mail
in about twenty days. That temporary paper card will not
work to get on an airplane, and so you want
to build in enough time before the May seventh deadline.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So what is a concern about if people wait too long?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, so after May seventh, well on and after May seventh,
you will need either a real ID or a passport
or another federally accepted ID. So to get that it
takes a little bit of time. And so after DMV
accepts your documents, your real ID card will arrive in
the mail in about twenty days. But that temporary idea
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that you get at the DMV is not valid to
get on an airplane. TSA won't accept it, and demand
increases it could take longer to get that card. You
also have to build in time to make sure that
you have the right documents. For example, if you bring
in your birth certificate from the hospital with your footprints
on it, it's very cute, but it's not an official
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birth certificate, so then you have to order an official
one from the state, which will take time. We also
anticipate a big run on applications for passports with the
state department because a lot of people are choosing to
get a passport rather than a real ID, and so
you just want to make sure that you have enough
time in case any of those glitches come into play.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So at this point, how many Oregonians have applied for
and received real ID?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
As of December thirty first, one point two million people
have chosen to upgrade to a real ID in Oregon.
That's only about thirty two percent of the state, and
that sounds low nationally, though we join a majority of
twenty states that have an adoption rate that's lower than
thirty nine percent, so this is not something that's uncommon.
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We've had got forty seven percent, or one point seven
million people have chosen to get a standard issue credential.
And what that means is that the real ID in
the upper right hand corner has a star, and that's
your proof that you have a real ID. The non
real idea or the standard has a little quote that
says not for real ID act. And so those people
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probably already have a passport or they don't plan on
air travel, and for their decision, they decided they didn't
need one. The remaining people have a credential that has
not yet come up for renewal, so we really want
to reach them and make sure that they're aware that
they're going to need one by May seventh.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So if you're not up for renewal, can you come
in at any time and apply for the real ID.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You can renew your credential up to a year in advance,
So if my deadline is April of next year, I
could come in right now and get an upgrade to
a real ID.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Does it cost more to get real ID?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It does.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It costs an additional thirty dollars, and that is when
you upgrade, and then every time you renew your credential,
so you'll have to pay that thirty dollars fee each time,
which is why some people are choosing to wait until
their ID comes up for renewal, they don't want to
pay that in advance.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Right, So you mentioned it takes right now about twenty
days after you make the application to get the real
ID that you can use to go onto a plane.
If there's a big crush of people, say in April,
trying to apply and they need to fly in May
or whatever, do you anticipate then that if there's a
big crush of people that average of twenty days, will
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that become longer?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, that is definitely. I mean, we hope not ideally
we would keep it to twenty days, but yeah, as
more people, as the demand increases, it will probably take longer. Again,
like I mentioned, you might have to get a different document,
something that's official, which will take longer. Every one of
those actions could push the timeline out. The good news
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is that in twenty twenty four, the legislature authorized DMV
to hire twenty six staff to work in field offices
exclusively for real ID transactions. And we've hired and trained
all those people. So what that's done is open many
more appointments slots up to accommodate customers' needs for both
real ID, and then they're taking away the work that
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would be done for people who have other needs, and
so that's been very helpful.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So it sounds like the key takeaway is if you're
planning to fly later this year, especially if it's going
to be close to May, you really need to make
that application for real ID now unless you have a
passport or one of the other ways to be able
to get on a plane.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Absolutely, you've got it right there, Brad.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Chris, thanks for joining us on Local Voices. It's Chris
krab Or the DMV and details and the real ID program.
The deadline to have real ID for a flight is
May seventh. You can learn more about the documents you
need and the process of getting real ID the Oregon
Department of Motor Vehicles website and Oregon kitten was euthanized
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after coming down with avian influenza following exposure to wild birds,
but officials don't think the risk has increased. The kitten
was a full time outdoor cat that lived next to
a wildlife refuge exposed to wild waterfowl. State veterinarian Ryan
Schultz says the cat's young age and small size made
it more susceptible to severe respiratory symptoms from bird flu.
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I don't have.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Any reason to believe the risk is any different today
than it was a year ago in terms of exposure
to wild waterfowl.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
While new reports of cats contracting bird flu from raw
pet food or concerning, doctor Schulz says the cases are
not related.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Raw food, raw dairy products, raw meat right now is
a risk.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
We know.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
That's a fairly new recent risk. In terms of this one,
It's always been a risk that's there. I think that
it's just these cases kind of coincided and appear to
be kind of stacking on top of each other when
they're really not.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Schol says. The cats vet first diagnosed the animal with pneumonia.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Kind of got a little suspicious based on some exposure.
It lived right on the edge of a wildlife refuge.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Doctor Schul says, the risk of pets contracting bird flu
from wild waterfowl it's the same as it's always been,
but we're hearing about it and testing for it now
more frequently.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Wild felids, wild canids, you know, the coyotes, the foxes,
the bobcats, links all those. We've been finding them dying
with this virus since the very beginning we've known that
they're susceptible. Oregon actually had the first case of even
influenza detective and the domestic cat all the way back
in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Schultz says it is a sad reminder of the ongoing
danger to small pets.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
There absolutely is a risk two cats who have uncontrolled
access to waterfowl, especially wild waterfowl, that could be infected
by this virus. This case, there were full time outdoor
cats that were living right next to wildlife refuge.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
He says pet owners should be cautious. Don't feed animals
under cook meat or raw milk, keep them away from
wild birds, poultry, and cattle, and don't let them eat
birds or other wild animals. Thanks for listening to Local Voices,
I'm Brad Bord. You can hear past episodes on the
iHeartRadio app under the podcast tab. Local Voices is a
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public affairs presentation from iHeartRadio.
Welcome Local Voices. I'm brad Ford. This week, Portland General
Electric wants to answer your questions about what it's like
to own an electric vehicle. Radon is an invisible gas
that can potentially cause cancer and could be in your home.
We'll tell you how to detect it. The deadline to
get real ideas coming up will tell you what it
means and how to get a real ID license. Plus
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another Oregon cat gets bird flu why it's different from
the first case, and how to protect your pets. Have
you wondered what it's like owning and driving an electric vehicle?
Portland General Electric has a website that'll help answer your questions.
It's called oregoan Electric and was made possible by the
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Oregon Clean Fuels Program. Joining us on Local Voices is
an Eke stressa with Portland General Electric. Aneke. What is
the goal of the Oregon Electric website?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The purpose of the site on an Electric site is
to provide Orgoning's with the one stop shop when researching
how to transitions to that's. It highlights the use TV
market rebate and on using in new vehicles, as well
as state or utility rebate programs.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
For how was driving an EV different from driving a
gas vehicle.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
UH.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
In many cases it's not cars or cars, right, They
both drive pretty similar accelerator gas pedal eves tend to
be a little bit quicker off the line the silent
uh because they have no engine. They also have something
called re kindtive braking, which allows e to charge itself.
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It's battery when when under breaking.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So I've heard about range anxiety, and I suppose that that's,
you know, the concern about running out of battery power
when you're on your trip. Is range anxiety something to
be concerned about.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It depends on the person. I think. For someone who's
doing road trips quite often, then yes it can be.
But for the normal person sin as myself, who only drives,
you know, fifty two hundred miles a week, it's not
that big of a deal. Most new unis go over
two hundred fifty miles on a charge, and so you
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really only charge it once every couple of days, a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What's it like finding a charger away from home or
away from your apartment.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's definitely getting easier. Apple Maps, Google Maps, they all
and a bunch of different apps have the chargers built in,
so when you're planning a route, it will actually include
stops you put in your make a model.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So how long does it take to charge?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It depends on the vehicle. It's like normal gas cards.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
If your truck has a bigger guess tank than your
small car, then it takes longer. For level two, which
is what people have usually at home, it can take
any or from eight to ten hours, but new modern
vehicles can charge on fast chargers within ten to thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, so you mentioned level two in the fast chargers.
One of the different type of chargers is there, just
like the bait? What's Level one? Is that the one
where you just plug it into the wall, right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, so your your level one is one hundred twenty
volt so basically the same thing you plug in your
phone for. And then level two is something like a
dryer out at two hundred and forty volt, usually typically ordwired.
And then level three or DC fast charging is something
you can't install at home and usually something you see
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on the roads of bigger chargers that are closed like
a gas station experience.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So do the different chargers work with all vehicles?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Mostly the different those three different types have their own adapters,
and most vehicles can take all of them. As of
twenty twenty five, a lot of bars are to what
they call the Tesla Adapter style, so that new US
can really use utilize the Tesla supercharging network.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So how do you deal with long mile edged road trips?
You talked about, you know, having your car and driving
it around the metro and two hundred miles is adequate
go home recharge and you're good, But say you take
a trip to Montana, how do you deal with that for.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Longer road trips? I try to plan ahead as much
as possible, you know, just making sure I have a
route mapped out, including stops. I have a kid, so
we need to solve regardless. But really just making sure
that you know, you're paying attention to the battery life
as you would pay attention to the gas or as
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you're driving, and then just making sure the map is
correctly and then you have a little bit more charge
than you expect you need when getting to next destination.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So are more charging stations coming to Oregon?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, PG and other utilities are helping argue manufacturers come
into Oregon. We have some of the most charges of
any state behind Dalifourni, and Washington, and it's just increasing
and increasing. You'll see them more often and in more places.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So what about people living in apartments? What options do
they have as far as getting a charger or charging
electric vehicle?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes, so the DC fast charging as we mentioned for
level three, those are great options for people living apartments
because it gives enough charge for about legally use depending
on the average user. But more and more important of
things are also adding charging options as well. If you're
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a level one outlet, you can get plenty of charge
for the week just by charging every night. Utilities are
also trying to incentivize multi faily thus owners to put
in charging as we as they install new parking spots.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So looking at the life of the vehicle, not not
just how far can I go on one battery? But
how long do the batteries last? Do they ever need
to be replaced?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Great question? They do so like your engine typical batteries. Actually,
the newer batteries can last you three hundreds of five
hundred thousand miles. They're becoming more and more reliable. Studies
that said the battery will outlast the body of the
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car most likely. But you're seeing already some million mile teslas,
a million mile ni leafs, so they're it's already, it's
already out there, and they're getting more and more liable,
and the cost to replace them is getting keeper as well.
It costs a lot quite an engine, so it's it's
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kind of a similar experience, but it is getting cheaper
as the technology grows.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, that's that's interesting about the million mile vehicles. I
know when EV's first came out, probably with the Prius,
I guess is where I heard it. But they're like,
you know, ten years they need to be replaced, but
the technology is improving, and so that's getting longer.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Absolutely. Yeah, you know, not every individual EV will last
that long, but it is getting better, and you're seeing
more and more high usage vehicles and you're getting more
and more reliable. And this is what we call the
state of charge. So how much charge your battery can
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hold is improving as well, similar to kind of like
your your phone and where you know, after you charge
it so many times the data charge goes down, but
it's getting it's improving for.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Batteries. Sure, so does cold or hot weather have an
effect on battery life?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It wouldn't say it has a effect upon battery life,
but it does have an effect on the charge itself.
So in cold weather, when you're using a lot more
equipment such as the heater, the froster, your battery range
is going to go down. And similar with hot weather
when you're using the AC. But it's similar to you,
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you know, a gascar where there's a there's a temperature
that makes it the most efficient, which is usually you know,
sixty to seventy degrees. And the same with gas bar vehicles,
right because in cold weather, again, your gas my lige
is typically lower, and so it is in hot weather.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So what types of questions should I ask to learn
about different models of evs before I make a purchase?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I would say, similar to what you do normal any
car research. You know how bit of a car I need?
You know what kind of efficiency can I live with
in terms of range, really kind of understand your daily
needs because you'd be surprised how much you actually drive
for I mean, how you might actually drive and how
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much rank you And then just ask the normal questions.
You need all wheel drive? You get by with two
wheel drive? What is the point of the cars of
your plumbing carr car et cetera. Then understand your charging needs.
Can I charge the car home? Do I have somewhere
to charge it? If not, we're the closest charging stations.
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And then you can also check out your local utilities
website for discount or chargers install that home.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
There are a couple of different types of evs, right,
there's the hybrid or a plug in hybrid or electric.
Explain the difference between those.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, so you're regular hybrid uses a gas an electric
engine and you never have to charge it. A plug
in hybrid use the same concept that you have, charge
the battery and it can go quite a distance on
just the battery alone, and but usually not as far
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as a full ect vehicle, so you'll eventually have to
use the gas power engine as well. And then your
full electric or what we call battery electric vehicle is
doesn't use any sort of gas at all, and those
are typically cleaner, quieter, and can go a lot longer
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on a on a charge the battery.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So what about buying an older EV? A used EV?
Is that something that people do and and what do
you want to look for in doing that? I would
imagine the battery batteries ability to maintain a charge or
how much charge the charging capacity.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yes, you're absolutely correct. People are buying especially or easy,
especially since there are for there were federal rebates and
state rebates. Pretty use evs status charge. As you mentioned,
it's a great thing to look at and the general
overall health are making sure it was damaged and battery damage,
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taking mechanics make sure everything that's okay is always great.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So are there issues finding EV repair shops? I mean,
you know there's gas power shops all over the place,
but is it is it difficult to find an EV
repair shop?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's a great question. Evs don't require as much repair
per se. It's usually if something goes wrong, it's usually
replacing a battery. One of the great things about EV's
is that there's less moving parts, so there's less maintenance
versus a gas bar, where there's an oil change, there's
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the time bell, there's a number of different things where EV's.
I've had one for a four years and the only
thing I've replaced the winter vapors and the winter liber fluids,
which in total has cost me fifty dollars. So it's
been pretty great and I think we will probably see
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more dedicated battery shop, but we probably won't need as
many either.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So if you get an older EV, say and the
and the battery is not holding charge anymore, maybe you
get an EV for say four thousand dollars. Is it
realistic to say, well, let's just put a new battery
in it and then I've got a pretty decent EV.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, you could do that, or you could just run
into the ground before you have to do it. They're
doing a great job of recycling batteries. If if you
want to put a new battery, you would definitely get
a lot a longer life than it. It's just a
little costly to do so because it's like replacing it.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I imagine it depends on the battery. But what like eight
ten thousand dollars something like that is what I've seen.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, yeah, it definitely depends on the battery size and
the battery and individual vehicle. But older Nissans were getting
down to like five six thousand. But it's probably for
some older Tesla's it's probably around the eight thousand ten
thousand range.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And from what I've read, it's not something that the
you know, home garage mechanic can do because of the
voltage involved. It really is something you need to take
into a shop.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Unfortunately. Yeah, it's a bit it's a bit dangerous to
do on your own. It's it's highly recommended to have a.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So what's it like driving an EV? I mean, I know,
the gas car, you've got the engine, you've got the noise.
If you're driving an EV, is it is I would
imagine it's quieter.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's definitely quieter. That acceleration is great off the line,
but also funny enough, some evs have pumped in noise.
It doesn't sound like a gas car.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, I've heard that, but I.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Think BMW did something with on Zimmer. So a lot
of the bmwevs have probably theoretical noise. I haven't actually
hear there in one, but it just we there's a
lot of pool up, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, when driving through parking lots. Before they had the
noise associated with a car, you wouldn't really realize if
you're walking through a parking lot that there's one coming
up behind you. And so that's kind of why they
added the noise. I mean, some of them kind of
have a music sound or they make some kind of
a sound when they're traveling at slow speeds.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I think there is general regulation. I think you
mentioned the Prius before. That was one of the things
that started. We're like one hundred and twenty five miles
per hour or something like that. Cars had to make
noise that people could hear them coming because there was
a risk of getting hip. It is really quiet vehicles.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So if people want to learn more about pges Orgo
and Electric, is there a website they can go to.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, it's just orgoanelectric dot com, oh R E G
o I N electric dot com and it's a great
resource for all things evs and learning more.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I mean thanks for joining us on local voices. That's
Nickue Shressa with Portland General Electric in their website or
Ago and Electric. It's a terrific resource to learn more
about electric vehicles, and it's made possible by the Oregon
Clean Fuels Program. Portand General Electric will be at the
Oregon International Auto Show February twentieth through the twenty third
and they'll have an EV ride and drive so you
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can do a test drive for free. Again. The OReGO
and Electric website is o R E G o I
N Electric dot com. Viering in Health Authority want you
to check your home for radon. It's a dangerous gas
and you wouldn't know it's in your home. Brett Sherry
is the program manager for oaha's Healthy Homes and Schools Unit.
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It oversees the Oregon Radon Awareness Program. Brett what is radon? So?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Radon is a naturally occurring radioactive gas that comes up
out of the ground. It's a problem because it could
build up to dangerous levels in our homes. And the
main health concern with radon exposure is lung cancer. So
radon is the second leading cause of lung cancer, second
to cigarette smoking. It's actually the leading cause of lung
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cancer in non smokers.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Are there certain geographic areas where raydon is more likely
to occur? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Raydon is a natural part of the environment, so it's everywhere.
You can find it in varying concentrations all around the world.
It's formed by the breakdown of uranium in soil, and
most soil and rock has some level of uranium in it.
Some types of rock have more higher concentrations than others,
so for example, granite soil, so granitic soils have higher
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concentrations of uranium which tend to break down into radon gas.
So it does vary by geography depending where you are.
But the interesting part is you never really know. You
can't really base a decision about a radon potential in
an area on the surrounding test results, so you actually
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might be the only house on the block that has
high radon levels. Very it's kind of hit or.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Miss what's involved in learning whether radon is in a home.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So the best thing to do is go out and
test your house for radon. It's relatively inexpensive to do.
There are home test kits available that you can purchase.
They're around twenty dollars and you can do the test yourself.
You send that test to the laboratory and they'll send
you the results. So radon is measured in pico quiris
per liter, and the Environmental Protection Agency recommends that anything
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that's for picocuri's per leader or greater that homeowners take
some steps to reduce those concentrations. The World Health Organization
has a more conservative number of two point seven picocuris
per leader. There's really no healthy exposure to radon. The
lower the better, but we're never going to get to zero.
The outdoor concentration on average in the United States is
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point four picocurris per leader. So basically the EPA's action
level is ten times what you'd be exposed to in
the outdoor air.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So if radon's found in a home, what needs to
be done?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And luckily, this is a problem that has a pretty
simple fix. If you find out you have elevated radon
levels in your home, you can contact a radon mitigation
company and they can come out and install a radon
mitigation system, which essentially basically pulls the air from underneath
your home and vents it up above the roofline. So
any of that radon gas that's coming up and bumps
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into your foundation or your cross space, these systems draw
that air out and vents it up above your roofline,
so it basically bypasses your house.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Does the Oregon Health Authority have a place where people
can learn more? We do.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You can find a lot of information on radon on
our website at www dot Healthorregon dot org slash radon.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Anything else you'd like to add, just kind.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Of a simple message, right, protect your family, protect your pets,
protect yourself, test your home for radon, and breathe a
little easier.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's Brettsherry, program manager for oah's Healthy Homes and Schools Unit.
It oversees the organ Radon Awareness Program. It monitors which
areas of the state have the potential for high RADON
levels and identify as regions where educational outreach efforts need
to be focused. The program is offering a free radon
test kit to residents whose homes are in ZIP codes
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with fewer than twenty radon test results. Residents can learn
more about the free Radon Test Kit program and how
to apply at healthregon dot org. Forwards. Radon free test
kits are available while supplies last. If you planned to
fly after May seventh, you probably need real ID and
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the Oregon DMV doesn't want people waiting until the last
minute to apply. Chris krab is with the Oregon DMV. Chris,
what is real ID?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Real IDEA is a state issued driver's license Instruction permitter
ID card that meets federal security standards set by the
real ID Act of two thousand and five. So the
purpose of real IDA is to make US identity documents
more consistent and secure.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So what do we need it for? Is flying? The
only thing that we would use it for?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
So starting May seventh, the federal government's going to require
every air traveler eighteen years in older to present a
real ID or an acceptable alternative, which includes a passport
or a passport card or a military ID. And that's
to board a flight within the US or to access
certain federal facilities. Those include like new your power plants
and military bases. But flying is really the big one.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Here, so it's involved in getting real ID. How do
we do it?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's actually pretty simple. You have to do it at
a DMV office. You can make an appointment at DMVTU
dot gov or walk into any location. The key here
is that you're going to be bringing in original documents
that prove your identity, your date of birth, your state address,
and your lawful status in the US. You also have
to provide a Social Security number. You don't have to
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bring in your card, but you will have to provide
your number or proof that you are not eligible for one.
So we really encourage people to go on to DMV
to you dot organ dot gov because we have a handy,
useful online documents guide that will help you create a
checklist of what to bring. There's really nothing more frustrating
than getting to a DMV office and being told you
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don't have the right documents, So we encourage people to
do that first. Once you've gathered your documents, you can
make an appointment to get a real ID appointment online
or you can walk into any DMV without an appointment.
Both are perfectly acceptable. So once you get there, the
DMV is going to accept and scan your submitted documents
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and then you'll get a temporary paper card and then
your real ID card will usually arrive in the mail
in about twenty days. That temporary paper card will not
work to get on an airplane, and so you want
to build in enough time before the May seventh deadline.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So what is a concern about if people wait too long?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, so after May seventh, well on and after May seventh,
you will need either a real ID or a passport
or another federally accepted ID. So to get that it
takes a little bit of time. And so after DMV
accepts your documents, your real ID card will arrive in
the mail in about twenty days. But that temporary idea
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that you get at the DMV is not valid to
get on an airplane. TSA won't accept it, and demand
increases it could take longer to get that card. You
also have to build in time to make sure that
you have the right documents. For example, if you bring
in your birth certificate from the hospital with your footprints
on it, it's very cute, but it's not an official
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birth certificate, so then you have to order an official
one from the state, which will take time. We also
anticipate a big run on applications for passports with the
state department because a lot of people are choosing to
get a passport rather than a real ID, and so
you just want to make sure that you have enough
time in case any of those glitches come into play.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So at this point, how many Oregonians have applied for
and received real ID?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
As of December thirty first, one point two million people
have chosen to upgrade to a real ID in Oregon.
That's only about thirty two percent of the state, and
that sounds low nationally, though we join a majority of
twenty states that have an adoption rate that's lower than
thirty nine percent, so this is not something that's uncommon.
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We've had got forty seven percent, or one point seven
million people have chosen to get a standard issue credential.
And what that means is that the real ID in
the upper right hand corner has a star, and that's
your proof that you have a real ID. The non
real idea or the standard has a little quote that
says not for real ID act. And so those people
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probably already have a passport or they don't plan on
air travel, and for their decision, they decided they didn't
need one. The remaining people have a credential that has
not yet come up for renewal, so we really want
to reach them and make sure that they're aware that
they're going to need one by May seventh.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So if you're not up for renewal, can you come
in at any time and apply for the real ID.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You can renew your credential up to a year in advance,
So if my deadline is April of next year, I
could come in right now and get an upgrade to
a real ID.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Does it cost more to get real ID?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It does.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It costs an additional thirty dollars, and that is when
you upgrade, and then every time you renew your credential,
so you'll have to pay that thirty dollars fee each time,
which is why some people are choosing to wait until
their ID comes up for renewal, they don't want to
pay that in advance.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Right, So you mentioned it takes right now about twenty
days after you make the application to get the real
ID that you can use to go onto a plane.
If there's a big crush of people, say in April,
trying to apply and they need to fly in May
or whatever, do you anticipate then that if there's a
big crush of people that average of twenty days, will
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that become longer?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, that is definitely. I mean, we hope not ideally
we would keep it to twenty days, but yeah, as
more people, as the demand increases, it will probably take longer. Again,
like I mentioned, you might have to get a different document,
something that's official, which will take longer. Every one of
those actions could push the timeline out. The good news
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is that in twenty twenty four, the legislature authorized DMV
to hire twenty six staff to work in field offices
exclusively for real ID transactions. And we've hired and trained
all those people. So what that's done is open many
more appointments slots up to accommodate customers' needs for both
real ID, and then they're taking away the work that
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would be done for people who have other needs, and
so that's been very helpful.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So it sounds like the key takeaway is if you're
planning to fly later this year, especially if it's going
to be close to May, you really need to make
that application for real ID now unless you have a
passport or one of the other ways to be able
to get on a plane.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Absolutely, you've got it right there, Brad.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Chris, thanks for joining us on Local Voices. It's Chris
krab Or the DMV and details and the real ID program.
The deadline to have real ID for a flight is
May seventh. You can learn more about the documents you
need and the process of getting real ID the Oregon
Department of Motor Vehicles website and Oregon kitten was euthanized
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after coming down with avian influenza following exposure to wild birds,
but officials don't think the risk has increased. The kitten
was a full time outdoor cat that lived next to
a wildlife refuge exposed to wild waterfowl. State veterinarian Ryan
Schultz says the cat's young age and small size made
it more susceptible to severe respiratory symptoms from bird flu.
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I don't have.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Any reason to believe the risk is any different today
than it was a year ago in terms of exposure
to wild waterfowl.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
While new reports of cats contracting bird flu from raw
pet food or concerning, doctor Schulz says the cases are
not related.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Raw food, raw dairy products, raw meat right now is
a risk.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
We know.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
That's a fairly new recent risk. In terms of this one,
It's always been a risk that's there. I think that
it's just these cases kind of coincided and appear to
be kind of stacking on top of each other when
they're really not.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Schol says. The cats vet first diagnosed the animal with pneumonia.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Kind of got a little suspicious based on some exposure.
It lived right on the edge of a wildlife refuge.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Doctor Schul says, the risk of pets contracting bird flu
from wild waterfowl it's the same as it's always been,
but we're hearing about it and testing for it now
more frequently.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Wild felids, wild canids, you know, the coyotes, the foxes,
the bobcats, links all those. We've been finding them dying
with this virus since the very beginning we've known that
they're susceptible. Oregon actually had the first case of even
influenza detective and the domestic cat all the way back
in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Schultz says it is a sad reminder of the ongoing
danger to small pets.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
There absolutely is a risk two cats who have uncontrolled
access to waterfowl, especially wild waterfowl, that could be infected
by this virus. This case, there were full time outdoor
cats that were living right next to wildlife refuge.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
He says pet owners should be cautious. Don't feed animals
under cook meat or raw milk, keep them away from
wild birds, poultry, and cattle, and don't let them eat
birds or other wild animals. Thanks for listening to Local Voices,
I'm Brad Bord. You can hear past episodes on the
iHeartRadio app under the podcast tab. Local Voices is a
(29:19):
public affairs presentation from iHeartRadio.
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