Ryan Bourgeois; Monica Castro; Anna Devere; Morgana Rae; Phil Cowley

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Her first daughter, Rio, wasborn with unique challenges. She was
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Upon a Coconut. Today, we'refeaturing Monica Cashto She's mother of two daughters.
Her first daughter, Rio, wasborn with unique challenges, born completely
blind with Down syndrome. Now,instead of allowing these challenges to define her
daughter's life, Monica decided to useher knowledge and expertise in ABA that's applied

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behavior analysis to help Rio and otherchildren like her thrive. With over two
decades of experience, Monica is aBoard certified behavior analyst, and her passion
for her work goes far beyond justher credentials. It's rooted in her personal
experiences. She's committed to making apositive impact on the lives of children and
adults with disabilities. Originally hailing fromHudson County, New Jersey, Monica's journey

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has taken her to the vibrant cityof Miami, Florida, where she's established
herself as a prominent figure in thefield of applied behavior analysis. Monica provides
services to families in both South Floridaand Hudson County, New Jersey. Now.
Down syndrome, also called trisomy twentyone, is the most common chromosomal
condition in the United States. Now. A chromosomal condition, also called genetic

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condition, happens when there's a problemin one or more chromosomes. And chromosomes
are the structures that hold genes,and genes are part of your body's cells
that store instructions for the way yourbody grows and works. Now, genes
are passed from parents to children.About one in seven hundred babies, that's
less than one percent, is bornwith Down syndrome. Many children with Down

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syndrome lead healthy lives, active lives. They can go to school, participate
in activities, and enjoy being socialwith others. Now, each person has
twenty three pairs of chromosomes or fortysix in all. So for each pair,
you get one chromosome from your motherand one from your father. Babies
with Down syndrome have an extra copyof chromosome twenty one, and this extra

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copy changes the way the brain andbody developed. Welcoming out to the show,
chatting disability inclusion, demystifying stigmas,balancing her life with medical complexities is
the amazing Monica Cashio, Welcome tothe show, superstar. Hi, thank
you so much for having me.Thank you so much for joining us.
So you are quite the unique momand influencer and ABA specialist. Can you

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tell us more about yourself and yourjourney from Hudson County over here in New
Jersey to becoming a prominent specialist inthe field of applied behavior analysis all the
way in Miami, Florida. SureSo. I was born in Union City,
Hendson County, New Jersey, andI lived there till about my early
twenties. Then I went to undergradin Wheeling, West Virginia for four years,

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and there I had my first professionaljob in a group home, an
adult care group home, where Iworked with individuals adults with developmental disabilities,
and that's where I fell in lovewith behavior analysis. After that, I
said, oh, this is acareer for me. I really enjoy this.
I loved working with the adults.I stayed there. I've never worked

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anywhere else. Well, you know, dabbled on a little side things here
and there, but mainly that's alwaysbeen what I've done. Then I went
on to get my master's in Appliedbehavior analysis and became a behavior analyst.
I moved to Miami for my master'sprogram. In Miami, That's what I
did. I worked. I workedas direct care, I worked in schools,
I worked in group homes. Iworked in other people's companies doing ABA.

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And that's what I did until Ihad my first daughter. And as
a my first daughter was born withDown syndrome, but also a condition called
bilateral micropythalmia, which means microphthalmia meanssmall eyes, so her eyes didn't develop
in utero. Some people have thisand can see or can see a little

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bit. She is completely blind.She does not have any vision. So
she has eyes, but they're verysmall. However, she wears a lens.
It's called a conformer. It's likea hard crylic type shell that they
place in her eyes so that hersockets grow appropriately with her face. And
I always say that like this wasmeant to be, Like there was no

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better mom on that day to havethis baby. Well, because that was
very work. Oh God never givesyou more than you can't handle. And
you prepared your entire life for this. And with over two decades of experience
as a board certified behavior analyst,you know you were inspired to specialize in
this kind of work working with childrenwith disabilities even before having real So that

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speaks volumes. And what I alsolike to kind of point out here is
what was your inspiration to even startworking with children with disabilities? Like,
what drove you to that? Ithink I was always interested in psychology,
I was always interested in helping andit just, you know, the universe
aligned and that was a job thatwas available. I said, Oh,

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that looks interesting. It was alevel, an entry level position. I
said, I'm going to try that. I applied, I got it,
and I went and when I went, I just love being in the home
with these adults. I was ableto help them lead a normal life,
as normal as possible life. Whenyou fulfilled a purpose, I mean you
have come full circle. And forthose listening, it's important to point out

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some of the factors that can affectyour risk of having a baby with Down
syndrome. So your age when youget pregnant, right, your risk of
having a baby with Down syndrome increasesas you get older, especially if you
are age thirty five or older beinga carrier of a certain type of Down
syndrome. So if you or yourpartner are a carrier and you can go
get genetic testing for this of onetype of Down syndrome, you carry a

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gene change for the condition, butyou don't actually have the condition. You
can pass the gene change to yourbaby, but it's rare, so you
definitely have to be proactive and youknow, making sure that you're getting the
right testing and already having a babywith Down syndrome. So if you if
you already have a baby with Downsyndrome, you your risk for having another
is higher, which leads me tomy next question. So, your daughter

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Rio the unique challenges that you justdescribed. She was born blind with Down
syndrome. You were not made awareof her diagnosis and this was a surprise
to you. So how has yourpersonal experience with Rio influenced your dedication to
helping children like her thrive? Yeah, well, you know it was a
surprise. I'vegnosed this, I wasnot aware. There's a long story behind

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that, but it's a beautiful story. But it was I didn't want to
know the gender, so I askedI did have testing domb, but I
said, I don't want to knowthe gender. They gave me the results.
I folded it, I put itin a purse. I never looked
at that purse. Well, therewas more information in that That paper told
me her gender and it also saidlike ninety five percent chance of Down syndrome.
Now, yes, the person whoyou know, my doctor, did

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say, you know, you shouldlook at this because but she kind of
was really nonchalant about it. LikeI was like, oh, it's fine,
you know what I mean, LikeI didn't. I didn't. I
don't know. It was very strange. It was all meant to be.
So then it was all meant tobe. It was all meant to be.
So I did have those results actually, and I looked at them like
a year later, and I waslike, wow, that's nuts. But
so that's how that happened. Butyeah, so when she was born,

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you know, I'm not gonna lie. That first year was hard for me.
Even though everything I know I hadto recover, it was hard for
me. I struggled bad postpartum,that first year postpartum depression. But I
made it, and you know,it was like something clicked. That was
like the moment that I really realizedthat I did have all the tools,
that there was no one better forthe job. I was like empowered,

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you know what I mean. Idid a lot of work, a lot
of therapy, and then I wasable to like, oh wait, I
can, I can. This baby'sgonna thrive, you know, like I
have all the tools, I knowwhat to do. Like how amazing is
that? So I just focused onthat and then I just we just started
teaching her and teaching her from verylittle. She was just she's always learning,
she loves to learn. She's easy, you know, she's so easy

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to teach. And then because ofthat, I was like, wait a
minute, I know how to dothese things. You know, why am
I working for everybody else building theirbusinesses? Like I can? I can
do this for other children. Sothen I was like it was an even
bigger connection to the to the familiesthat I serve, and I was like,
no, I'm gonna do it,and I get to do it my
way now and with the experience thatI have. So then I said Oh,

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I'm gonna open up my own business. And that's how Real's Place came.
What a beautiful story. Now,wow, I got chills. Can
you elaborate on you teach essential lifeskills? Right? So? Can you
elaborate on the essential life skills youfocus on teaching to children with this ability
is sure? And it's all reallyindividualized, right? So every child is

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different. I can you know,just for example, I do all of
Rio's teaching, you know, andsomeone like Rio, who is blind,
I have to teach her pretty mucheverything because she cannot see. So there's
no learning by watching how a lotof little kids learn from modeling your behavior.
She can't do that. So anythingfeeding herself, going to the restroom,

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pulling down pants, putting on ashirt, saying hello to someone,
greeting someone, waiting everything. Ihave to do everything. How to get
on the bus in the morning,we have a procedure. How to get
out of the bus, we havea procedure. How to put her seatbelts
on, we have a procedure.Everything has a procedure, like a step

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by step way that I teach herthe same way every day. Anybody who
works with her teaches her the sameway. That's so that it comes in
clear, there's no mistake, seamless. I love it. Now, in
addition to working with children, you'realso dedicated to empowering the families so they
could navigate the complexities of raising childrenwith disabilities. Now, how do you

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offer that kind of support and guidancefor these families? You go to their
home? What's your process? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I go
into a home, I get aclient, I will go into their home.
I meet with a family personally.Because I have my experience, I
connect. I can connect with them. I know what they've been through.

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I've had a diagnosis. I knowexactly where you've been. I've been there.
So I think that that's a benefitfor me to connect with them,
and they know that they can trustme, they can rely on me.
I know what to do. SoI think that gives them. I hope
it gives them like some solace,like some comfort. I'm in good hands,
you know. Oh yeah, youare definitely the comfort zone because now
you are the real mom in theroom often guiding these moms who are scared

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and afraid and clueless, and soyou are doing God's work. So let's
talk about disability awareness and inclusion.So how do you approach demystifying stigmas surrounding
disabilities and what steps can individuals taketo contribute to a more inclusive society.
I think number one, we allhave to start with challenging like our own
internalized ableism and how we feel andreally facing that and learning about it.

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That's number one. I know Ihad to do that. Number two is
I don't. I have to bevery firm in where I take her.
I take her wherever right we're gonnago, even though it might be uncomfortable
because maybe you know, for example, to a movie. We have to
work on going to a movie,because she's not going to just go to

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a movie and enjoy a movie.Blind people watch movies. It has nothing
to do with being blind. It'swith can she sit? Will she start
making noises? Is that going tobother the other people around? So I
had to work on that, youknow. So obviously I want her to
enjoy the movie. That's number one. I'm taking her to a movie because
she wants to, But then Ihave to expose her. The more that

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I keep exposing real to everything andnot thinking about it, not worried about
what is everybody going to say,are other people gonna feel uncomfortable? You
know I can't. I would havethought of that before, and I had
to work on that, you know, But now I say, no,
here we are, this is whowe are. You know, you welcome
us. And when I made thatdecision because I had to work on that,

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and when I made on that decisionthat I was gonna doesn't matter.
We're going anywhere and everywhere we wantto go, you want to go,
and you get to experience all ofit. I think that just her.
I know, it's just one person, but that's one person's presence in this
environment that maybe all these people thathappened to be there, it's the first
time they see it. Yeah,yeah, that's true. I mean you

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just have to do the world mapthat you have to do the work now.
Balancing life with medical complexities is verychallenging. Without a doubt, you
are a warrior, a super mama. I admire you and I'm so inspired
by you and your story. Buthow do you balance your own family and
at the same time you have anotherdaughter, So how do you make sure
that everyone gets what they need?And it's no easy feet. Yeah,

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I mean I have to say thatI'm blessed that Real's medical complications have been
slim, and I thank God everyday that she hasn't had some of the
medical issues that other children with Downsyndrome can have. So but with that
said, we have a lot ofappointments, a lot of eye doctors,
a lot of speech a lot ofOT all these different therapies. You know
we're going I do it because I'mnot alone. I'm lucky. I'm blessed

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to have a lot of support.My mother, you know, her nanny
that has been with her since threemonths old, her amazing school. She
goes to a amazing school for theblind. That is just I've been with
them since she was three months oldand they're everything to me. I love
them and I'm not alone. Ihave a huge support team, and not

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everybody gets that, and I knowI'm blessed for that, but I think
I've just it's like, you know, when you accept something, this is
my life. Yeah, that's okay. You are amazing. Thank you so
much. We are out of time. I just want to thank you for
coming on, for being so transparent, for being so opened, and really
just being an incredible warrior to themost incredible little girl. Thank you,

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Zen, I appreciate this. Thisis really nice. Thank you. That
was our Hydration with Heart segment broughtto you by Once Upon a Coconut.
Do check out the incredible Monica Castroon the gram at Rio's Place ABA,
or you can check out her websiteat Rio's Place dot com. You're listening
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We're featuring Ryan Bourgeois fn PC,and that means an esthetic nurse practitioner.
He's founder of Bougie Aesthetics and heprides himself on natural facial balancing.

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Impressively, he was voted top medicalaesthetic practice in Fort Worth, Texas.
He joins me today to chat latestnon surgical procedures, his most requested beauty
treatment, and the latest trends anduses for carboxy therapy for skin rejuvenation.
Welcoming now to the show is theamazing Ryan Bourgeois. Welcome to the show,
superstar. Thank you Zan so much, appreciate it for this time.

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All right, let's dive right in. So a little known secret that you
dabbled in TV as an actor insoap operas. And I heard that you
were a medical consultant for days ofour lives in General Hospital, collaborating on
scenes with directors and actors to bringbelievability. What made you transition into medicine
and what inspired you to become anaesthetic nurse practitioner. So, at first

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I was a registered nurse and Iwanted to go out to Hollywood to chase
that pipe dream of being an actor. My mother said that you need to
have a contingency plan before you,you know, break upon that gold.
So I said. I said,Okay, got my orient, moved directly
out to LA and hit the groundrunning. I was on General Hospital from

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two thousand and two to two thousandand nine. I've always been in mess.
I've got eighteen years of emergency medicineas my background, five years of
esthetics. So but yeah, that'sin that I used my nursing background to
help me get into the industry.It's a beautiful mesh of art and science
and you're living out your dream.You went where there is no path.

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My during you left the great Bigtrail very proud. So you were voted
top medical aesthetic practice in Fort Worth. Can you share some key elements that
contribute to your success and how youapproach natural I know you're all about facial
balancing in your practice. Yeah,I like my patients to look as natural
as possible. I don't follow thetrends of everybody putting a bunch of filler

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in the so I don't feel likefiller is the answer. I feel like
bioresuvenation is the answer. With typesof treatments like sculpture or radias or even
the carboxing that PRP. I likestuff like that, so, uh,
truth be told, that's what's in. I have sculptured in my face.
I've got radis in my face,and that's why I'm forty six years old

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and look as natural as possible.I don't have hardly any filler. I
just feel like you're, like Isaid, you're not treating faciality. You
know what I mean with the bioregeneration. You're using college stimulation in order
to combat facial agent because you loseat the age of twenty. You know,
you start losing one percent per years, So if you're forty years old,

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you've already lost twenty percent in yourcollagen. Not to mention you know
the bony changes that you're going tohave and how you know you have maxillary
recession, you have mandibular recession,ramis recession, and there's ways that I
go about treating that to try toprotect the bone per se as you get
older. Well, you look fantastic, so I'll take your word for it.
I'll take your word for that.So what are some of the latest

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and most innovative non surgical procedures inthe field of esthetics and how have these
procedures evolved over the years. I'mcurious to know the benefits they offer compared
to surgical options. I work handin hand with local plastic surgeons. I
have dinner with the plastic surgeon thiseat. And the reason I do that
is because the treatments that I provide, I want to make sure that down

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the road when they do decide tohave that facelift that I don't hinder his
job. So the way that Itake my approach is, for one,
I like to inject the sculpture downon the bone periosteo level in order to
create that collagen fiberan matrix in orderto protect the bone. And it's to
be told that sculpture is more ofa fibroplasia, so it's more fibrotic tissue.

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To me, you want something that'sfibrotic. It's sticky, it's adherent,
it's going to keep the face niceand lifted at the surface level.
I like to use radis. RADSis also a college just stimulator, but
it's a different type of college stimulator. And the fact that it's not only
type one collagen, is type threecollagen. There's also last last thing which
keeps your skin to stretch. There'spretty of bly cans involved which actually pull

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water provide hydration to the face,and that's how Radis gives you that beautiful
gin and glow that you get.So those are the kind of approaches that
I like to take. I likemixing it with PRP. You know,
that's your blood, it's your growthfactors. I actually have a treatment to
that I do is called easy gel. I take your blood, I spin
it, I activate it, andthen I heat it up and I turn

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your blood into a filler and thenI inject your blood back into your face.
And over time you're going to releasethose growth factors. And when you
put those types of things together,you know the plasma, the sculptra,
the radis, the birarigenitive treatments,that is, treating facial aging. Combo
therapies are so important, and Ithink people practitioners and estheticians overlook, you

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know, combo therapy. They liketo stick to monotherapies. But carboxy therapy,
if we're going to circle back tothis, it's interesting to me because
it was the number one of thenumber top three Google searches for Q three
of twenty twenty is Q four oftwenty twenty three. So carboxy therapy,
as you know better than anyone,uses carbon dioxide to stimulate blood and lymph

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circulation to the area being treated andimprove of course circulation and elasticity and fine
lines and wrinkles. But the oldway to administer carboxy therapy was by subdermal
injection of CO two with a thinhigh godge needle. Right, but this
application caused some pain and tons ofdiscomfort and left minor bruisics. So what

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is the new improved method and whatis COO two lift carboxy therapy jump.
So, yeah, the CO twolift. It's a topical form providing the
carbon dioxide that's going to lead tothe beasodilation and the rust of the rush
of oxygen nutrients blood to the surfaceto help with the healing. It's amazing.

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How I first got into it wasI'm very skeptical with anything. I
had a patient that came to mefor actually some facial work and she had
a soiatic lesion on her leg andshe said, do you know what this
is? I said, it lookslike psoriasis or the egzima. I've came
across this mask that we're doing allthe face. I'm seeing good results and

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it's used for actually the issue thatyou have. I would love as an
experiment put it on you and seewhat happens. And within one treatment she
had a ninety percent improvement. Andthat was I couldn't believe it. And
I mean, I can provide themfor as an afters for you. I
just I was blown away. Isaid, okay, and then I started

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diving into this, going what reallyis this and how does it work so
well? And you know, wehave we offer free brueize treatments here at
Bougie and like so we use aeleutronic ultrive, use a laser that to
to to to kind of stimulate thebruise and to help heal it a lot

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faster. On one of the cases, we did that and then we put
the CO two masks on top ofit, and the actual bruise came out
of the skin and onto the mask. Wow, pictures of that too,
it was And then I yeah,so the mask the part where she had
the bruise on her cheetah and themask was purple. So you're using the
laser to break up the bruise,you know, to blast it, open

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it up, and then you're usingthat Coe of two mask, you know,
to to rush that oxygen rich bloodto the area, which in turn
let it to come out of theskin. It was crazy. Yeah,
that's fantastic that. I mean,it's all science because what you just said
is the exact science behind carbon dioxidetherapy. It increases the present of wound

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repair factors and growth factors to yourpoint, which then helps cells turnover faster,
reducing the appearance of aging and scarsand stretch marks and so much more.
In this case, you know,reducing the appearance of the bruise,
but stimulating collagen back to your pointthat you made at the beginning, and
elastin production promotes elasticity and helps retainhydration, and to my understanding, this
product does that. But then italso improves local metabolism and elimination of waste

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products, which then helps the bodyto heal localized damage such as scars or
acne and hyperfigmentation. Now, canyou share with us your most requested beauty
treatment at Bougie and what makes thisparticular treatment so popular among your clients.
It's the bioregenitive treatments, for sure. It's the sculpture and the radias that
people come in, you know,requesting a lot of people come in and

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they just they see the befores andafters. I've got well over eight hundred
on Instagram, and they they trust, so they come in and they just
I'll ask them what they're looking for. What bothers you You look in the
mirror, do you feel like you'reyou feel like you're sad, you feel
like you're mad, you feel likeyou're you know, and a lot of
the people do I don't see Idon't see the person I see in the
mirror. I feel a lot youngerthan what I look. So when they

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come and see me, I usethose bioregititive treatments and it's usually not a
one and done. It's, likeI said, the way that I do
it sculpture down on the bone forthat architectural support radius to the surface to
help, you know, rejuvenate thatskin. But those are that's definitely the

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most requested, uh, but theyusually we're the practitioner, right Our job
is to assess diagnosi and to treat. So it's it's it's not like you
come in here and there's a miniyou and go, well, I want
lips and don't want cheeks and don'twant chins or whatever it may be.
It's about treating facial agent. It'sas you age and you get certain ages,
you know, there's there's you know, when you get about mid thirties,

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every generation that comes in, it'salmost identical to the complaince that they have.
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Next, in our Discover your Potentialsegment, brought to you by body Line,
We're joined by our news contributor,podcaster and host, Anna Devere.
She is joined by MORGANA. Ray, twenty time number one international best selling
author of Financial Alchemy, twelve monthsof magic and manifestation. She's been a
seven figure spiritual life and business coachfor over thirty years. Morgana's fans call

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her the money Goddess because of themany documented stories of clients making unexpected incomes
of five to six and even sevenfigures within hours of changing the relationship with
money. Morgana has guided tens ofthousands of entrepreneurs, artists, healers,
and humanitarians to heal the rift betweenheart, spirit and money to save the

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world as only they can. Soundslike a fairy tale. Today they're here
chat all about her book, Improvingyour Relationship with Money and becoming a money
Magnet. Welcoming down to the showis my dear cost Ada deaverean superstar Morgana
Ray. Welcome stunners. OOO,what a cool conversation. I'm ready to
dive into this right Morgana, Welcometo the show. Thank you for having

(32:57):
me. All right, So let'schat about your book, Financial Alchemies.
So this workbook combines ancient wisdom andmodern technologies to bridge the gap between material
and spiritual prosperity, so people cancreate a new, loving relationship with money
that supports of course, enrichment.So you talk a lot about the relationship
between love and money, and mostpeople would love to have the secret behind

(33:20):
becoming a money magnet. So canyou explain why you focus on teaching people
how to make money fall in lovewith them. I found, because I've
been coaching for three decades and many, many thousands of clients, what has
been my observation is when you're doingeverything you're supposed to be doing and you're
not getting the results you desire,whether it's in money, love, or

(33:42):
health, but primarily in money,you are actually protecting yourself from what you
want, and you have very goodreason to do so. And if you're
doing the right stuff over and overagain and nothing is changing, there's something
you're protecting yourself from. So Ibelieve change happens at the speed of safety.
After having tried every modality and mindsetthat I could find in the two

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thousands, in the late you know, nineteen hundreds, and nothing was working
for me personally. What I failedwas if I made money a person,
it made money more real for me. And what I discovered was the relationship
with money that I had starting outwas like a really terrible boyfriend. Who

(34:28):
would tell me that I'm not goodenough, that I was the best,
that he was the best I wouldever get, and I should be super
grateful. But it was like hewas stepping out on me all the time,
just rejecting me, cheating on me, and it was soul crushing.
So if you've ever had that kindof relationship, you know what I'm talking

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about. And if money is gettingin the way, where the lack of
money is getting in the way ofwhat you want to be, do or
have, that's one side of theequation. Or if you have a lot
of money but it's causing all thisdrama and it's getting in the way of
love. In any of these scenarios, money is sort of like a monster
who is causing trouble in your life, and so we have a really healthy

(35:14):
inclination to push the monster away withoutany conscious awareness of it. So it's
all about taming the monster. It'sall about taming the monster and keeping the
monster streamlined. So I have I'mgoing to lead it Insueana's next question.
So, Financial Alchemy has clearly beenwell received, with tons of five star
reviews stating how your book has changedtheir lives and to what you alluded to

(35:36):
change their income and drastically improve therelationship with money. And you see this
concept of making money fall in lovewith you worked for you immediately. So
what changed for you based on moregod as advice, So creating a relationship
with money like it's a real personlike it helped me pinpoint like what was

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missing and what I needed more ofand what that was was somebody that had
my back and somebody that loved mecompletely. So again, thinking about it
like a relationship, I'm really changingmy relationship with myself. But you know,
like cognitive behavioral therapy will show youthe solution, you're coming up with
it, so you're more engaged withit, You're you're buying in more's.

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It really attracted new things overnight andhelped me face really big challenges. So
that was a breakthrough. It's abig, big breakthrough and a tenant relationship
with money is certainly nothing new.In fact, according to the Mind over
Money survey by Capital I and theDecision Lab, seventy seven percent of Americans
report feeling anxious about their financial situation, and this anxiety spills over into all

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parts of life, with forty threepercent of respondent saying that they feel fatigued,
forty two percent find it difficult toconcentrate at work, forty one percent
have trouble sleeping, and twenty fivepercent said financial stress affects the relationlationships.
To Morgana's points, so we're gone. It sounds like the majority of Americans
could benefit from your book. Whatexactly is financial alchemy and what are the

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steps? If you're going to changesomething, you need to know where you're
beginning. So the very first stepis to get really, really honest about
what is not right in the relationshipyou. Just like you are never going
to be happily married to the badboy who cheats on you, You're not
going to have a good relationship withmoney if your current relationship with money is

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a monster. So alchemy is thetransmutation of lead into gold and in our
purposes, your most leading human experience. If you have a victim experience in
your life, if you have hadtrauma, if you have anxiety. Right
now, congratulations, you're already ninetypercent of the way in step number one,

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which is to uncover what is notworking in your relationship with money.
So there are six steps, andthe first one is to all cover the
root cause. And here's here's thesecret. The root cause to your money
drama or your negative relationship with moneyis never actually about money. It's about

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what money represents. That's why weget so tense and tied up and freaked
out about money is because money representspower. Do we have power to make
choices in our life? It representslove and I loved and I wanted.
It represents worse out its value.It's so full circle when you describe it

(38:34):
and break it down like that,And I'm curious to know did you follow
these steps and what did you findchallenging? I did you know? The
workbook's really clear, and I lovegoals and I like tweaking it. But
the big breakthrough for me was realizingI hadn't conquered that money monster. So
it was even last week that Irealized. Watching the movie The Sound of
Freedom about human trafficking, and youknow that story where a child's taken into

(38:59):
the jung, well, I wasvibing so hard on that feeling of hopelessness
because I'm somewhere out of victim mentality, still lurking, and the main bad
guy had this scorpion tattoo and Imade the correlation like, that's my feeling,
that hopelessness, and I realized theworst relationship in my life was with
the scorpio. I mean, Ihate to get all astrological here, but

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in my mind, I put thetwo together and I realized I still have
more digging to do, and thatrelationship did trigger me and the feeling like
I'm completely hopeless no matter what Ido, and that relates to money and
just feeling powerless, like no matterhow hard I try, I'm not going
to conquer it. So it's deepstuff, deep work, deep work.
But the fact that you can identifyit, and the fact that you can

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respond accordingly, equipped with the knowledgeand even financial alchemy to take you to
the next level and get you throughis really you've conquered half the battle.
So Morgan of financial alchemy takes youone step further, is what I'm hearing.
It's a total life transformation process.It's because you talk extensively about enhancing
your ability to track only what youwant while really discarding the rest, and

(40:07):
a manifestation system that's irresistible to successso to speak. Right, but many
would say this is similar to thelaw of attraction, So for those that
are listening that aren't familiar to thelaw of attraction is a philosophy where positive
thoughts bring positive results into a person'slife, while negative thoughts, of course,
bring negative outcomes. So Margota,how does financial alchemy take the law

(40:29):
of attraction to extraordinary new heights andhow is it different? Well, I
have had the worst thing in mylife that ever happened to be happened to
me at the happiest moment of mylife when I was sixteen. I was
in love straight a student, hitby a car, in a coma for
a week, and had a traumaticbrain injury that just dragged me through health

(40:49):
for a bunch of years. WhenI was young. I've also had some
of the happiest things in my lifehappened when I was in the depths of
despair. So I believe there's somuch more nuance yond like attracts. Like.
What we want to do is useall of our experiences and not be
afraid of those dark places, butactually use them and transform them because they
are sources of power and energy.So step one is we go down into

(41:15):
that underworld and fine everything that wedon't want in our life experience personally and
globally, and we use that andwe build up the energy. And now
we're getting into neuraliinguistic programming and neuroplasticitybecause when you light up all those neurons,
then we can change things. Thatstep on is uncover the root cause,

(41:37):
the powerlessness, the hopelessness. Thatis like the flag saying this is
where it is. Yes. Andyou also talk a lot about creating and
finding what you call your money honeyand ridding yourself of your money monster.
We talked about that earlier, soAna, can you tell us more about
what this means and reveal who yourmoney honey is. I picked somebody that

(42:00):
had my back and was a completecowboy for whatever reason. It's it was
Sam Elliott. Okay did you knowSam? Oh my gosh, don't and
he's taken please forgive me catrins.But I was literally had pictures of him
on my phone. It's something abouthim having my back. He always plays
the strongest character. He's always likehe's got the integrity and I needed that.

(42:23):
I didn't have support as a child. Unfortunately I grew up failing like
I had to fend for myself.I needed that archetype and I would te
Morgana says, talk to him asif he's a passenger in the car.
I mean, I made this wholescenario. He sits, you know,
shotguns so he can just stare atme and that juicy feeling that did the

(42:44):
trick, that did the trick nowso good. Yeah, it's it's quite
interesting because it's a unique and areally receptive way to approach a difficult subject
right when we're talking about it.So, but according to Household Halts Survey,
this is interesting. Almost forty percentof American adults report that they struggle
to make ends meet each month,and that's an increase from like thirty four

(43:04):
thirty five percent in twenty twenty twoand about twenty six to twenty seven percent
in twenty twenty one. It's allcorrelated, right, So your mood,
your money, you're trying to makemeet, You're you're not manifesting what you
should be as a result of beingstuck interrupt mentally and emotionally. So,
Morgana, do you think some peopleare destined to struggle with money? And
how long does it take to stopthe spiral if anybody is destined. I

(43:28):
started out that way where everything Idid didn't work, And what you just
shared about the statistics and the insecurityis really important and really serious. It
makes the world feel unsafe for allof us, and that's the place to
start by giving it personhood and rejectingthe monster and making space for this new
Sam Elliott honey who loves you.What it does is it calls forth.

(43:53):
It relaxes you. It gives youaccess to your frontal lobe and your genius
zone so that you can relate tothe same circumstances. But you see new
opportunities that you didn't see before.You are more resourceful, you are more
creative, and that's when weird thingshappen. How long it takes, that's

(44:14):
fun. I received a letter froma woman named Lynn Swanson who listened to
me, slayed her money monster,met her money honey, who looked like
John Travolta from Saturday Night Fever.And when she asks what he wanted her
to do, because the final stepis always takes some kind of concrete,
miserable action, because we have bodies, so we need to use the action

(44:37):
that's magical. It lets us knowthe change is real. The action he
wanted her to take made no sense. It was simply to transfer money from
one bank account to another. Andthis is a woman with lots of drama
stress, she couldn't make payroll,and this is the solution, but she
agrees to do it. She getsin the car, turns on the radio
and the Beg's are playing from SaturdayNight Fever. That's the first kind of

(45:00):
choke. And then she transfers themoney from one bank account to another,
gets the deposit slip, goes toStarbucks to pick up coffee for her office,
and while she's standing in line,she's checking her phone and she gets
an email from a client that theyhad invoiced that morning who was paying all
of it, a big tens ofthousands of dollars invoice that very day that

(45:22):
would more than pay for her payrolland pay off her debts. And she
looked at the difference in the timestampbetween the bank deposit and the email and
it was two minutes. Wow,so we just need to dial it it
a little bit more. There yougo. This just happened very fast.
Wow, this is incredible. Ilove the session. We are out of

(45:43):
time officially. I know we couldtalk forever, but we've officially gone over
Thank you so much both for comingon. MORGANA. You're very insightful,
incredible, amazing speaker. And Anna, you just you just know how to
react to everything and ask all theright questions. Thank you, Thank you,
Morgana, thank you for having me. That was our Discover Your Potential
segment brought to you by Bodyline.That was co host Anna Devere and MORGANA.

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Ray, twenty time number one internationalbest selling author of Financial Alchemy,
twelve Months of Magic and Manifestation.Be sure to pick up a copy of
Financial Alchemy so you can make moneyfall in love with you today. Check
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the end of that when that songstarted to play, the house would go
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(48:38):
stuff to take, or we gothrough them today. Help you be educated
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everything we need with it. Now, magnesium is essential in producing gabba gamma,
buteric acid is one of the mostimportant neurotransmitters that we have, and
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brain it's okay, you can startto go to sleep now. But when

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we have not enough magnesium, especiallywhen we take it in forms that are
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anything else, magnesium and really fiftypercent of us don't have enough magnesium.
Second thing you can reach for isall the products that have PM in them.
Now, PM products have one ingredient, They look different, but they're
the same thing. Every one ofthem has difen hydromeni inum. Now,
all the pylonal PM, your ibuprofand PM, all of them have a
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(50:07):
it blocks both the H one andH two receptors. Now, histamine
is one of those things that makesus alert, get up and go.
It's the fight or flight thing,and it's so we can get out of
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