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The following is opaid podcast. iHeartRadio'shosting of this podcast constitutes neither an endorsement
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Sam's. We have such an incredibleshow lined up for you today and our
Hydration with Heart segment brought to youby Once Upon a Coconut. We're featuring
Trish Barillas, a seasoned Latina lifecoach with over eighteen years of experience.
Her focus is on supporting individuals dealingwith anxiety, navigating breakups, and advancing
careers. She's also the author ofthe first ever insta book, A Face

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of Anxiety, which chronicles her personaljourney living with generalized anxiety disorder. She's
here to chat happiness, overcoming anxiety, and the power of words and manifestation.
In our Going Deep segment, we'refeaturing doctor Suzanne Kilmer, founding director
of Laser and Skin Surgery Medical Group. She's the clinical professor at the Department

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of Dermatology at the University of CaliforniaDavis School of Medicine. She joins me
to chat laser's skin rejuvenation and thebenefits of cobbon die oxide therapy for the
skin. In our Fintech TV CEOexclusive, live from the iconic New York
Stock Exchange, We're featuring Armando Pantoja, a social media influencer, speaker,

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investor, and software engineer. He'sa respected thought leader in the cryptocurrency space,
and he's joined by his dear friendRobert Crok, a financial educator and
founder of the multi million dollar companySilly Bands. I know you've heard of
them. They joined me at theNew York Stock Exchange to chat bitcoin,
blockchain, artificial intelligence, and willalso get insight on their upcoming new crypto

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podcast. In America's Favorite Pharmacist segmentbrought to you by Bioptimizers dot Com or
chatting with the amazing Phil Calli,He's joined by model, celebrity, real
estate agent and Instagram star Rudy Bundini. Rudy has modeled for Nike, Armani,
Versachi, Calvin Klein. That's justto name a few. He's been

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on a ton of billboards. Today, he's going to join me to chat
men's health, mental wellness, andwhy men are costing the healthcare system one
and a half times more than usscals. In our Hydration with Hard segment
brought to you by One Spot ofCoconut, you definitely are gonna want to
stick around. We're featuring Trish Burrilla'slife coach, dealing with anxiety, chatting
happiness, manifestation, and overcoming yourfears Stay tuned. You're listening to a

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Sam's up next in our Hydration withHeart segment brought to you by Once Upon
a Coconut. We're featuring Trish Burillas, a seasoned Latina life coach with over
eighteen years of experience. She focuseson supporting individuals dealing with anxiety, navigating
breakups, and advancing their careers.She's also the author of the first ever

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INSTA book, A Face of Anxiety, which chronicles her personal journey living with
GAD general anxiety disorder and panic disorder. Of course, they go hand in
glove. Today we're chatting all aboutovercoming anxiety and finding a path to happiness.
We'll also discuss the power of wordsand manifestation. Welcome to the show,

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Superstar, Thank you, thank youfor having me, Thank you so
much for coming on. So Trish, can you share with us your journey
and what inspired you to become alife coach focusing on anxiety, breakups,
and career advancement. So, mywhole life, I've always been fascinated by
the human condition, human behavior,and I didn't realize that most of my

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life I had been coaching. It'ssomething that came very natural. So I
studied psychology for my BA and thenonce I was able to really navigate what
my trajectory was going to be,someone that I had gone to to pick
my path was a life coach,and within probably the last ten minutes of
our session, he then said tome, I think you should look into

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this, And within a week Isigned up at NYU. And it was
that fast and that simple talk aboutthere are no coincidences. You're exactly where
you're supposed to be at all time, and I truly believe in that.
And positive emotions when you feel positive, have been linked with better health,
longer life, and of course greaterwell being in so many numerous scientific studies.

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On the other hand, chronic angerand worry and hostility increase the risk
of developing heart disease because people reactto these feelings with raised blood pressure.
I know, of course I do, and of course stiffening of blood vessels,
and that's a big no no.So it isn't easy to maintain a
healthy, positive and emotional state allthe time, and harnessing the power of
happiness and mindfulness and inner strength iseasy for me, but it could be

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a daunting and crueless task for many. So let's talk about that. Dealing
with anxiety. So in your experience, what is the most common misconceptions about
anxiety and how do you address themwith your clients. The most common misconceptions
is that it's a choice that peopleare choosing to have this type of suffering,

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that they are choosing not to justbreathe through it, find the right
meditation, relax a bit more.There are we're all connected by different DNA.
We don't know maybe what the reasonis and like what the sources that
started our journey with anxiety and ordepression, et cetera. So it's not

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a choice. We can be wired, whether it's genetics, whether it's severe
trauma, whether it is due todrug use. There's just so many factors
of why we might be wired acertain way. But with my clients,
I don't focus on the why.I focus on how can we move forward

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and how can we get them toa place where they accept and can live
a fulfilled life. Now you're instantbook A Face of Anxiety is a very
powerful narrative of your personal battle withanxiety disorder and panic disorder. What motivated
you to share your stories so openly. I had left a job, a
very cushy corporate office expensive plus plus, and I wasn't happy, which is

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why I love that we're doing thissurrounding happiness. And I always knew I
was going to coach. I hadalways coached for as a side hustle,
and it just I woke up oneday I decided going to change things and
find my happiness. And whilst Iwas in Hawaii on a trip with a
group of friends, somebody mentioned thatthey had an idea of writing a book

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on Instagram, but they couldn't figureout anything to write about. So they
said I should do it, andthat I should do it about anxiety,
which I was very shameful about myexperience. I didn't want people in my
corporate world to realize the struggle.But finally, after some convincing and after

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some you know, earthing in Hawaii, I just said, sure, let's
do it. And I didn't thinkit was going to stick. I just
started writing kind of a Cliffnoe versionof my life and then it kind of
took off, and then I realizedpeople needed to hear a story and it
just happened to be mine at thetime. It's a beautiful one now overcoming

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anxiety. So what are some effectivestrategies that you recommend for individuals struggling with
anxiety to find their path to happiness. My favorite strategy is really about the
what is versus the what if,So we're always in the what if thinking.
Anxiety lives in the past and thefuture. It doesn't reside in the
present. So the more present onecan get, the more grounded they feel.

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So the what is is what areyou actually dealing with in your current
reality today versus the what if?Well, what if this happens? What
if that happens? However, it'snot happening, So we're just not used
to living in the moment and reallysticking to the fact of our situation.
So we can train the brain tostick to the fact and not to the

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story or to the what if.It can really help in getting yourself grounded
mentally. I love that you justsaid that be in the moment. That's
what everybody is missing now, thepower of words and manifestation. Let's chat
that. So can you elaborate onhow the power of words can influence our
mindset and help us in manifesting ourgoals. Most of the anxiety, well,

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underneath anxiety is fear, So whatdo we fear? And anxiety is
going to generally go to what youhold the most weight on, whether it's
your mental stability, your family,your children, your job, and your
power of thought. Thoughts have somuch weight, and we don't realize what
we say to ourselves. And generally, given a fifty to fifty scenario,

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if you don't know the actual outcomeof any one thing, people will go
to the negative. It's more comfortablethere. They will say, well,
it's not going to work out becauseoh, well this happened, da da
da. It's always something that's notheld in the positive. But if it's
a fifty to fifty, why can'twe think about it in the positive?

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Why does it always have to besomething that holds us back versus kind of
put us forward. And when itcomes to your thoughts and the power of
words, you're either moving towards yourmental and physical health or your moving away
from it. But there's a choice, and I think that's what we forget,
is that we have a choice toadvocate for ourselves, and we don't

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do that enough. Very true,very wise. And it's also about connectivity
and human connection. And this leadsme to talk about breakups. So breakups
can be a significant source of anxiety. What advice would you give to someone
trying to heal and move forward?I love this question breakups. I feel
is really breaking through your next elementof life. It puts you into that

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next chapter. There needs to bea learning that happens, and if you
don't, then we'll repeat patterns.One thing that I can say is people
always think that closure comes from theother person. Oh, I just want
to meet to get closure. Ijust want to talk to it closure.
But in reality, to me,that means that you're still searching for something
to be fixed or solvable, andclosure comes from oneself. You give yourself

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the closure. And once you goto the acceptance of a breakup, which
is generally the hardest part, iscan I accept this breakup and move on
from it? That is more ofthe healthy way to look at it versus
I need closure. What did Ido researching everything about the other person?
Because it's a lesson for us.We're not supposed to be fixing someone else.

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do you think they are so successful? Well, I think that's an easy
question. It's because it tastes justlike taking a straw and sticking into an
actual coconut. My father has afarm in Guatemala. We cut them down
with machetes. So something that isso simple and that can taste just like
the real thing, how could itnot do well? Right? I agree?

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Yeah, I agree, And Ilove coconut water because if it's truly
proprietary health benefits. You know,you have potassium and calcium and magnesium.
Those are all electrolytes that play suchan important role in helping maintain your heart
health and your liver and your kidneyfunctions, your digestive functions. So I
always give it to my daughter.The chocolate flavor tastes exactly like you.

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Who but it's not so it tasteslike you, and she thinks that she's
drinking something very naughty. But Ilove hydrating and it's really really beneficial for
my skin and the taste. You'reright, the taste is absolutely incredible.
As an anxious, hydration is key. I've always been told that I'm not
hydrated enough so for me to alwayshave it on hand, and my husband

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and I have to fight over whousually gets the last one. But I
find that I can get so muchmore out of it if I have a
can versus drinking, you know,four more glasses of water, which doesn't
feel good to me in the momentto drink that much liquid. So the
Once Upon a Coconut just hits itright nail on the head when it comes

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to how I need to hydrate better. That's exactly what it's for. The
amount of potassium in one can youcouldn't even get in three bananas, and
you would have to intake so muchmore calories and sugar, so it's a
great replacement. Well, we areofficially out of time, my dear,
Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for having me.
It was a pleasure chatting with you. That was our Hydration with Heart

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segment, brought to you by OnceUpon a Coconut. That was the incredible
Trish Barrillas, Firecracker, Latina lifecoach, helping you pave the way to
happiness and overcome anxieties and of coursediscover the best version of yourself. Head
directly to her website at Trishburillas dotcom, or check her out on the
Grab at Tea Berrillas or at Faceof Anxiety. You're listening to a moment

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of Zen right here on seven toten wo R, the Voice of New
York iHeartRadio. We'll be right backafter this. A moment of Zen is
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the voice of New York iHeartRadio.I'm your host, zen Zam's up next
in our Going Deep segment brought toyou by CO two lift. We're featuring
adopter Suzanne Kilner, Founding director ofLaser and Skin Surgery Medical Group and clinical
professor at the Department of Dermatology atthe University of California Davis School of Medicine.

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Doctor Kilmer was a principal investigator inseveral hundred clinical trials for laser skin
resurfacing, laser hair removal, pulseddye, and fractional lasers for wrinkles and
scars. She lectures annually at nationaland international dermatology meetings. She's served on
the board of directors for ASDs andAsLMS, and has received multiple awards and

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presidential citations for her contributions to thefield of dermatology. Now understanding how the
treatment work requires knowledge about lasers andtheir effects on the skin, That is
doctor Kilmer's entire ethos. Simply put, lasers are powerful, narrow spectrum light
beams in dermatology. Carbon dioxide laser, otherwise known as a CO two laser,

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is invisible far infrared light with alength of ten thousand, six hundred
nanometers generated from carbon dioxide water molecules. Selectively and highly absorbed. Light of
such a wavelength now the epidermist,the top mostly of the skin, is
sensitive to CO two laser beams,and when CO two laser hits the skin,
the energy heats up and vaporizes epidermalwater moleculars and with them, the

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epidermal cells. Now in the handsof the skilled laser dermatologists like doctor Kilmer,
CO two lasers can strip off theepidermists with minimal damage to underlying tissues.
The CO two laser is and ablade of laser because it removes the
skin's superficial layers. Today she joinsme to chat laser's skin rejuvenation and the
benefits of carbon dioxide therapy for theskin. Welcoming now to the show is

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doctor Susanne Kilmer. Welcome to theshow, superstar. Thank you such a
pleasure to be here. I reallyappreciate the opportunity to talk about what I
really love. This is right upyour awe. You are the expert,
my dear, So let's talk yourbackground and contribution. So, doctor Kilmer,
could you share with us your journeyin dermatology and what inspired you to
specialize in laser and skin retrivenation.Absolutely, I'm actually very lucky I got

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into it way in the beginning oflasers, and there and Ben Stun laser
work in the early sixties, butthere was an accident in the lab and
then it started. Lasers started poppingup again in the eighties. And back
then it was to treat birthmark,so nothing cosmetic. And then we were
looking at treating tattoos, again notreally cosmetic. And I had trained under
somebody at EC Davis, doctor RonaldWheland, who knew a lot about it,

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but he said, if you wantto learn more, you want to
be at the forefront, you gotto go trade with Rox Anderson. And
Rox Anderson runs well the labs ofphoto Medicine at Harvard, and he is
the inventor of innumerable things everything's thatyou have, you know, laser here
and will cool sculpting, tattoo removal, birthmarks, and then of course fracture

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surfacing and fully ablade of resurfacing.And so with him I was able to
start right from the beginning. Ibecame his right hand person, and then
when I moved back to Sacramento,we stayed in contact. We're still friends
to this day. And through allthis learning that I got back when I
used when I was his fellow.I spent every day at lunch and I
would write notes on a napkin,and like everything that he explained that was

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actually really complicated, he could makesimple. And so I had this benefit
of really understanding everything about laser physicsfrom the get go and then slowly adding
in more lasers over time. Soit's really been very lucky in my privilege
to be where I got where Istarted, and to stay in it as

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much as I have because I reallyreally love the field. So I'm happy
to be here to share any informationanybody wants. Yeah, it's all about
mentorship, and you seem to havehad the right ones, determination and knowledge,
and of course knowledge is power,and you have turned that into your
own, you know brand. Atthis point now having been recognized multiple and
I mean multiple awards and presidential citations, what do you consider your most significant

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contribution to the field of dermatology.I love figuring out ideas, but I
think what I am probably myself mostproud of is just the mentoring, the
teaching, like the passing on theknowledge, because that's what Rocksannerson did for
me. He gave me the startand then let me really understand it.
And most of my words are forinnovation, of course, but then you

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have to do something with that andyou have to hand it off to others.
So I think the teaching and thementoring is what I'm the most proud
of. Beautiful and for those listening, unless you've been living under a rock
for the past few years, you'reprobably aware of the number of fields that
laser therapy is being used in,including skincare. By precisely removing the dead

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skin and redundant skin, layer bylayer, laser skin resurfacing helps make your
skin appear younger and healthier, andthat's the Wattom line. The best thing
about this procedure is that it caneither be performed on its own or with
other cosmetic surgeries what we call combotherapy, and that's extremely important to note
as well. Now that said,for our audience unfamiliar with laser resurfacing,

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could you explain what it is andhow it benefits the skin. Absolutely,
when we say laser is surfacing,we're really talking about anything that we do
to the top of the skin.So in fully, the blade of laser
is surfacing is done with describing earlier, you take that whole top off and
when you do that, the skinrepopulates for cells that are deeper in the
skin, like down the hair follicle, the add NEXL structures, and those

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cells aren't just damaged. So thatis probably the best thing we can do
to improve health for the skin becausewe allow newer, younger, better cells
to repopulate, and we actually decreaseour incidence for skin cancers. There's a
lot of other great side effects besidesjust the cosmetic benefit. The health benefits
huge. Now, the other thingwe can do is, because that's a

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big deal procedure and wound care everythingyou're hiding a solid week. The other
thing we can do, and Rocksand Diana Ranstein came up with this,
is poke thousands of tiny holes intothe skin. And we can do that
in a variety of different ways bydifferent lasers with different energies, different densities,
different spot sizes. So you canpick how big the holes are that
you poke into the skin, whichcan create channels, and those channels will

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then allow delivery of products into theskin or just allow healing. Even if
you didn't put anything on top todeliver in If you just poke the holes,
the skin does what it does whichis heal and the skin's really smart.
So by poking those holes, eventhough you didn't take the whole top
off, it'll turn darker areas,light lighter areas, give it some pigment

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back, like I for some reasonyou've lost pigment. It will even it
out. So if you have scarsthat are rough, and it could be
a surgical scar, it could bea burn scar, it could be scar,
you know, a traumatic scar,you can then remodel the skin and
improve the look of that skin andthe function of that skin. It's all
about cell manipulation. And of courseyou have a big laser beam at you

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at your disfolial, so of courseyou are going to get the effect that
you want now in your prapped ishow do you determine when laser resurfacing is
the preferred treatment compared to other availableoptions? And curious to know how do
you combine this with CO two lift. Sure, well, the first thing
is is a conversation because no matterwhat you use after, what you're doing

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at that time determines the expense tothe patient, the pain, the downtime
wound care. So a fully abladeof procedure is sort of the max of
all that max benefit, but themost downtime it's uncomfortable. We give them
drugs, we get them through afine, but their wound care is significant
as well, and so other things. If we do fractional lasers, it'll

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be a shorter time. There arelasers that don't even really break the skin,
that can go through the skin andtreat things, which is another whole
different array of things that we canoffer. But then once we've created this
wound, how can we have itheal the best? So Number one,
actually before we even make the wound, we prep the skin, and so
we do things like maybe lighten ifyou're a darker skin, maybe we don't

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want you to pigment as much.There's like hydroqinone, retine, things that
we can do to prep the skinand get you ready. Now, I'm
going to do a procedure and thenI'm going to take care of that procedure
after. So from that point on, depending on if it's a fully ablade
off, I've got to be verycareful, right because I've taken off that
whole barrier of skin, so I'vegot to let some of that come back

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before i can put too much ontopically because I don't want to irritate you.
Something like the carboxy lift can actuallyenhance healing, so it can make
it an oxygen rich environment that canpromote healing. But I also have to
be careful with what is present therebecause I don't want to irritate that brand
new skin that's there. So fora carboxy lift, you can do that

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right after a regular fraxle, oryou could do that after you know some
things. But if I have afully ablitted procedure, I might just want
to let you heal in a littlebit, make sure that you get some
barrier function back and so that youdon't react to too much, and then
we can do the things that caninhale as more healing. So there's a

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lot of things that we can doto the heal's healing, and I think
anything that we can edge or ourmaterial to make that downtime less, the
wound care less, pay less,you know, shorten the whole wound care
time. That's a benefit without adoubt. I've had many procedures that involve
dermatology procedures and the co twol ofpro is a medical monotherapy, is extremely

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effective. I mean it's even greatfor severely dry skin or itchy skin,
but for the beeding healing of wounds, it increases blood flows. So I
love that. Now, when decidingbetween fully ablade of and fraction and fractionated
treatments, what factors do you consider? Are there specific skin types or conditions
that respond better to one over theother. I mean, in your experience,

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who would you say is the idealcandidate for fully a blade of treatment
and who is better suited for fractionatedtreatment? So fully ablade of Caucasian lots
of sun damage, less of precancers, or they have a lot of
wrinkling because again they don't have themelon in their skin to prevent that,
you know, the race from gettingin. So anybody who's got a lot

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of sun damage and you really wantto erase that, but it's also willing
to go through the downtime. Sowhenever you have fractionated you're not only shortening
the downtime, but you're also decreasingthe injury to that epidermal dermal adjunction,
the date adjunction. And for pigmentedskin types, so the darker your skin,

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so types maybe three, but alsofour, five, and for sure
five and six, which are thedarker skin types. If you can just
poke holes through that date junction insteadof completely disrupted, you're going to get
much faster healing, with much lessdowntime and much less post inflammatory hyperpigmentation.
So and then as we have darkerskin types, we might decrease our density

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so that there is us of aninjury through that dee junction. Well,
you're definitely the expert, and withthat we are out of time. But
I want to thank you so muchfor coming on. You were such a
pleasure to chat with, filled withknowledge and just so interesting. Thank you
so much. I really appreciate it. And that was our going Deep segment
brought to you by CEO too Liftdot com. That was the incredible doctor

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Suzanne Kilmer, founding director of Laserand Skin Surgery Medical Group, which is
also a clinical professor at the Departmentof Dermatology, University of California David School
of Medicine. You could head directlyto their website at skin Lasers dot com
or check them out on the gramat Laser and Skin CA. You're listening
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ten wor the voice of New YorkiHeartRadio. I'm your host Zen. Sam's
up next in our Fintech TV CEOexclusive, live from the iconic New York
Stock Exchange, We're featuring Armando Pantoja, a social media influencer, speaker,
investor, and software engineer. He'sa respected thought leader in the cryptocurrency space,

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and he's joined by his dear friendRobert Prope, a financial edge cater
and founder of the multi million dollarcompany Silly Bands. I know you've heard
of them. They joined me atthe New York Stock Exchange to chat bitcoin
blockchain and we'll also get insight ontheir upcoming new crypto podcast, Granting Dentalen
and Welcome to fintech Tovy at NewYork Stock Exchange. I'm excited to be

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here. Thank you be having it. Yes, definitely very fun. Day
two for me here on the NewYork Stock Exchange, so quite a difference
than my normal schedule. So thisis gonna be awesome. Welcome. So
let's dive right in. So youboth have these fearless outlooks on bitcoins future,
and I'd like to know where eachof you predict its price is going

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to be one year from today.Robert, you go first, I'll go
first. All right, we hadthis discussion last week. He's a little
more conservative than I am. Andso my take on this with the upcoming
bitcoins body tapp approvals, the bitcoinhaving coming up April eighteenth of twenty two,
twenty four, I believe by theend of next year, bitcoin will

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be between eighty thousand and one hundredand twenty five thousand per coin. Wow,
Okay, I'm putting it out there. Put them out. I'm good
with it. I'm good with it. Put it out in the book.
So there you go. Well,Wanda, will you. I'm a little
bit more conservative than Robert, andbecause I believe that every year, if
you look at history, when abig cooin having occurs, does a four
to six month delay on the hypecycle starting. So I think by the

(30:27):
in the next year, we'll bebetween fifty and eighty five thousand. But
if you extend it into twenty twentyfive, I think we can reswear in
fifteen thousand. Okay, Well,and we have a steak dinner bend out
there that's right here, so we'regood. Well, we have a beguinnion
to yang over here. And thisis why they're going to make a great
podcast host. Now, it's importantto note that predicting the price of midcoin

(30:49):
or any cryptocurrency is highly speculative,and market trends, global economic factors,
financial and fancements, and regulatory changesall play significant ruled and determining its price.
All Right, Robert now, whatimpact do you anticipate the black Rocks,
bigcoin and ethery ETFs will have onthe financial markets? This is a

(31:14):
big one. This is a bigone. So my take on it is
I think that it will affect thegold market more than it will the stock
market. And I also believe thatso many people that have been sitting in
treasury bills and high yield savings accounts, I feel that they will free up
some of that cash to get inon this gold rush with the new ETFs
and bitcoin. So I think thatthe stock market won't be affected as much

(31:37):
as the t bills, gold andhigh yield savings accounts as Bitcoin grows and
grows and grows, because this adoptionis going to be massive and very very
quick, and so that is whyI believe that's the effects on the market.
Okay, yeah, fair enough,I like that. Now. Indeed,
Black Rocks involvement signifies major endorsement fromthe traditional financial sector. The introduction

(32:04):
of exchange traded funds by such asignificant player will definitely increase the legitimacy and
accessibility of cryptocurrencies, and the impactcould include increased investment from both retail and
institutional investors and potentially more stability inthe crypto market. Nowlet's the bar,
let's check crypto currency. Okay,So bitcoin is the largest and most popular

(32:27):
cryptocurrency wide market cap and was createdby the very famous Tatoshi Nakamoto back in
two thousand and nine. Okay,so Bitcoin's market cap right now hovers at
four hundred and fifty eight billion dollars. Coming in second, we have Ethereum
with a market cap of two hundredand sixteen billion, and then we have
Teather with a market cap of sixtysix billion. Now, could you each

(32:52):
share your top three cryptocurrency pick forvigue reasons behind your choices, considering a
course technology and market trends. Robert, you go first. Sure, yes,
put me on the spot first.Every single time. I love it.
So I say number one for meis bitcoin. Obviously it's the granddaddy
of them all. It's a safehaven. There is so much great news

(33:14):
and adoption right now with all ofthe spot bitcoin etf So, bitcoin is
definitely number one and a key factorhere. And the key kind of metric
is only twenty two percent of UShousehold's own bitcoin right now. So when
you think about it from that perspective, we're still very early. I bought
my first bitcoin at seven dollars,so that was a very long time ago.

(33:37):
So to me, bitcoin is kindof a old hat, so it's
always dollar cost averaging in. Butto somebody new, the big thing here
is to educate, to get themto understand you're not too late. Bitcoin
has a finite amount of you know, number of bitcoin available, and so
it's just a great safe haven andlong term investment. And I tell everyone

(33:59):
that listens to me that I believethey should be in bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
Maybe have five ten percent of theirinvestable portfolio in the crypto space. So
that's number one. Number two wouldbe Ethereum for me because of its strength
in building and deploying smart contracts.Again, it's an older blue chip platform
and so many people are building aroundEthereum, so I think Ethereum definitely is

(34:22):
a good long term hold. Inmy second holding, and then number three,
and it's been on a big runright now, is chain Length.
I love chain length. There's massadoption and it's the most widely used protocol
to build on, and I thinkchain link could see two three hundred dollars
price points in the next three tofour years, so chain Link would be
my number three. Those are mygo for it. So I want to

(34:44):
agree with Robert on the course too, is I think that Bigcoin hasn't reached
anywhere near mass adoption yet. Well, like you said, twenty two percent
of households own bitcoin, and Ithink that bitcoin also has a great advantage
from being recognition Right now, ifwe go out to the streets and we
ask anybody name one crypto currency,in ninety ninety five percent of people will
be able to say crypto. Youknow, I'm sorry, bigcoin, right

(35:05):
So when the next Bitcoin Moore onehappens and the ones that happened after that,
I think people will flock to bigcoinbecause that's the top of month,
so I think that's going to causethat price to go up. So that's
my number one big Coin, that'smy number one crypto. Two is Ethereum.
And the reason why I think ethereumhas a lot of potentials because you're
able to build on top of thatblockchain with Dallas NFT smart contracts, and

(35:27):
every time one of those new technologiesof new protocols are built, you have
to you have to use Ethereum totransfer those tokens and transfer those assets.
That creates a higher demand for ethereum, and it creates more use cases for
Ethereum. So e theorem is numbertwo, and I think, I think
eventually, and I'm gonna go outa little winning mirror, I think Ethereum
will eventually, in the next fiveto ten years be the number one crypto

(35:51):
past bigcoin. I think Ethereum willbe the number one crypto eventually, and
almost in twenty seventeen, the Theeumwas very close to what we call flipping
bigcoin and being number one. Istill think it has the potential to do
that. My last one is XRP, and the reason why is because XRP
has been We all know about thelawsuits with the SEC but I think that
the price of XRP is artificially toolow for what the utility of it is

(36:15):
and what the potential of it is. So when I see an opportunity like
that, that's a great investment opportunitybecause once those those artificial barriers are a
waste, which I think it willbe in the next year year and a
half, the price can truly riseto what the true value is. And
right now I think xrp's true valueshould be between ten and fifteen dollars.

(36:36):
I think with the next bulld onewe could see twenty twenty five dollars.
That's some deep insight coming from asoftware engineer's background. Will you do what
you do best for a reason?Armando? Now, Robert tell us about
the themcoming podcast with Armando. Whatwill you be talking about? Yeah,
so we're super excited about the podcast, and it's really a match made in

(36:57):
heaven because we both have long historiesin cryptocurrency and a lot of back knowledge
of what's going on. We're notnew to crypto. Neither of us started
at the height of the bull run, and so we've seen all the ups
and downs and so right now mypodcast, Rich Habits Podcast is one of
the top business and finance podcasts inthe United States. But what we don't

(37:17):
cover a lot in the Rich HabitsPodcast is cryptocurrency. So with everything that's
developing right now between the blockchain,crypto, web three, NFTs AI,
that is such an important sector andit's a very big sector, we felt
that it deserved a podcast specifically forthose topics, and due to our backgrounds,

(37:39):
we just thought it was a perfecttime for us to do this in
this kind of interphase where we're comingout of the crypto winter, we're getting
back into a bull market, andit's just really perfect timing because people need
to be educated and help them withthe fear factor, that constant worry about
crypto being such a scam or youknow too much Volatiley right, well,

(38:01):
I got my dose of education hereon Flockchain Cryptocrinty in the last fifteen minutes.
I thank you gentlemen for coming on. I can't wait to hear this
podcast. It's gonna be brilliant becauseyou have now merged all the disruptive emerging
industries together and there's two expert handlingthis, and you guys came here today
and made a big flack. Ican't imagine where you going to do a

(38:22):
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(39:07):
America's Favorite Pharmacist segment, brought toyou by byoptimizers dot com. We're chatting
with the amazing Phil Calli. He'sjoined by model and celebrity, real estate
agent and Instagram celebrity Rudy Boundini.Now Rudy has modeled for Nike, Armani,
Versachi, and Calvin Klein. That'sjust to name a few. He's
walked numerous runways, shot of manycampaigns, been on over a dozen magazines

(39:31):
and counting, and of course somany billboards. Today, they join me
to chat Men's Health, Men's wellnessand why men cost the healthcare system one
and a half times more than usladies do. Welcoming now to the show,
my dear friends Rudy Boundini and PhilCalli welcome, superstars. Well,
hey, thank you so much.I'm excited to be here. Thank you

(39:53):
very much for having me. Allright, let's dive right in. Phil,
we talked about this just the otherday. Men life expectancy is five
years shorter than women's, the costto the medical system is one and a
half times more, and twelve percentof all men are in fair to poor
health. What do you think isthe greatest contributor to this crisis? Well,

(40:15):
if it's just wanted to be supereasy to fix, but I think
that there are multiple contributors to it, and I think the biggest one that's
come out over the last few yearsis mental health issues. If you start
looking at the fact that men aresubstantially more addicted to both alcohol and drugs
and still smoke at a higher ratethan women, and then if you throw
in the fact that the suicide ratesof men are climbing, especially in the

(40:36):
later years of their lives, itcreates this chasm of potential issues and I
think it starts young because I thinkearly on in life we're told that if
you get sick or if you're hurt, you just rub a little dirt in
it and keep going instead of gosee a doctor when it's easy to take
care of. So I think thesocietal pressures on men to be tough when
they're younger are now showing up asus dying earlier when we're older. When

(41:00):
you put it like that, that'sexactly why this is happening, And the
greatest contributor to the crisis of men'shealth is weak demand for health care services
because men are more resistant to seekingmedical help compared to women, and the
reluctance of men to see doctors leadsto a higher cost burden on the healthcare
system estimated at over one hundred billiondollars, So it does have a ripple

(41:23):
effect now, Rudy, a Yalestudy shows women are thirty three percent more
likely to see a doctor twice aslikely to be treated for a chronic disease.
Men have always been more resistant toseeing doctors, which is attributed to
more than one hundred billion dollars,Like I just said, in excess cost
to the healthcare system. Have youever waited too long to see a doctor?

(41:46):
And why? And what do youthink it's about men that makes them
so resistive to care? Well?I remember in my earlier ages, I
had a broken hand and I waited. We're a week in the hand was
turning blue when I went and seea doctor because I was just having this

(42:06):
toughit of mentality. And also thesocial expectation around masculinity is often discouragement or
seeking help. And uh, well, Phil said it, well, put
some dirt on it and keep going. So I haven't been an exception from
this fact. So I have alsodealt with the same issue. And although

(42:30):
I know it's not logical, butthis is kind of like a tread that
as we grow up, the adoptedbased on the social expectation of men.
Now, Phil, suicide rates arefour times higher in men. Why do
you think these numbers are getting worse? And how do we fix this?
I think it's that isolation of masculinity. And I think that there's not probably

(42:52):
a better way to put it thanisolation of masculine and masculinity. When you're
happy, you be, you're aroundeverybody else. But the second you start
feeling anxious or alone, you isolateyourself. And it has a lot to
do with how our hormones work.Men's hormones are mostly testosterone. In order
to make estrogen, we have toconvert it, and estrogen is the primary

(43:13):
way that we get oxytocin. Oxytocinis the reason why that we connect as
human beings. So in men's case, especially elderly men, your testosterone starts
to drop, so you don't haveas much need to connect with people.
Well, that leads to isolation.Isolation, especially with anxiety and depression,
that leads to violent acts that takepeople way too young. I mean,
we look at people like Robin Williams, who anybody would have spent time with.

(43:37):
He felled alone, he felt scared, and he did him and he
took his own life. And Ithink a lot of it has to do
with that men have a tendency toisolate when they should be gathering people around
them. The increasing suicide rates amongmen are definitely attributed to a complex interplay
of factors. You know, wehave mental health stigma, lack of access

(43:58):
to mental health care, and societypressure to conform to traditional masculine norms.
Like you both just set it onyour own and to address this crisis,
I mean several measures, of courseneed to be taken, and this this
includes what we're doing promoting mental healthawareness, reducing stigmas surrounding men's health,
and improving access. I think thisis a critical one. Improving access to

(44:22):
mental health care services and providing targetedsupport programs for men struggling with mental health
issues, because that's the root ofit all. Now, Rudy, as
a model and influencer constantly in thepublic eye, what do you struggle with
the most and how do you maintaina healthy balance? Well, definitely maintain
maintaining and balancing public expectations and personalwellbeing has been a struggle even for me

(44:45):
personally to find this balance. Ipersonally preauthorize mental health and I establish some
boundaries and emphasize on genuine connection withmy audience. Also at this same time,
in my personal level, I surroundmyself with the supportive network of people
to kind of navigate the pressure ofbeing the model. And there's controversies surrounding

(45:09):
testosterone treatment for instance, Mainly youknow it revolves around potential side effects right
now, because we know that toomuch testosterone could lead to cardiovascular risks and
prostate cancer, and it's important toweigh the benefits and risks of such treatments
on an individual basis and under theguidance of healthcare professionals. But you're always

(45:30):
about your body. How hard isit to navigate what's healthy and not healthy
for you? Really when it comesto your appearance and your physique. The
side effect of using testosterone, evenin earlier ages includes a lot of risk
and also the concerning factors of healthissues, and also in long term because

(45:55):
then it would be hard for thebody to itself produce. But I am
not talking about using it logically andunder control and advice of a doctor.
Just I'm more talking about abuse andmisabuse of testosterone for performance enhancement. That
raised us also ethical questions. Yes, and I'm glad you said that,

(46:17):
because abuse of testosterone is really atthe core of all of these issues.
Now, phil hormones have been provento play a role in anxiety and depression.
As testosterone drops, men's health alsodrops. What is it about testosterone
treatment that creates such a controversy,because now we just went from one to
the other, And what are somenatural ways to keep testosterone levels more stable?

(46:42):
Back in the eighties, there wasthis huge push that testosterone was going
to lead to this roid rage.In fact, there used to be these
commercials where some guy would go IncredibleHulk on his whole family and like rip
everything apart, and they'd be thesemuscle bound like you'd see him on Muscle
Beach kind of guys that come out, and that created this mindset that everybody
who takes testosterone does that, AndRudy brought a huge point. Controlled Logical

(47:06):
was like completely moved. They thoughtthere were only one type. It was
going to be the Incredible Hulk,or there was going to be nobody that
could do it. And what wefind is that testosterone as we get older,
it goes down the same way thatwomen go through menopause. Men go
through menopause and our testosterone drops,and that's where you start to see suicide
rates go up. So when youwork with your doctor or your pharmacist,
when you work at Logical Doses,they keep that underneath control, so you

(47:30):
get to have your testosterone, youdon't have to see that drop, and
you still connect with people around youbefore you go straight to using testosterone.
Though there are a few tricks toit. So about a third of all
of our hormones, whether your maleor female, is actually reprocessed in our
stomach, so we put it outand then our bacteria in our gut grab
onto it, tweak it background,and put it back in. So products

(47:52):
like biooptimizers total gut Health, whichgives you pre biotic and post biotic as
well as the actual bacteria itself,will help you reabsorb some of your old
testosterone and help everything healthy, soyou don't have to get necessarily put more
in. It'll be like we'll justput a better way to filter it and
get a lot of it back.And then including magnesium and zinc, those

(48:14):
things also help you to utilize thetestosterone you have at the highest amount.
And anybody who works out as muchas Rudy does, he could tell you
pretty easily if your gut health isn'tgood, you can't lift and you can't
run, and you can't work out. And then having enough teststerone for your
zinc and your magnesium your multi vitaminsalso are essential in both of those things.

(48:35):
But I think the whole idea thatit first came up that we were
all going to turn into these monsterswith a little bit testosterone really miss the
point, and now a lot ofstudies are showing responsible low dose hues extend
out man's men's life, help withcardiac help give them more lean muscle,
and improve their quality of life withouta doubt. Now, phil, as
we know, there are structural differencesin men's brains. Men use seven times

(49:00):
more gray matter in processing as womenuse ten times more white matter. Women's
hypocampus is larger, which is responsiblefor memory and fear, and women have
higher levels of natural serotonin and oxytocin, which are the bonding hormones. How
do you think this difference affects men'shealth and what are some natural ways to

(49:20):
increase oxytocin. Oxytocin again is themost important hormone for bonding. So men
and women actually use different antidepressants thatnormally we try to push up just a
serotonin and women do really really wellon what we call the SSRIs. Men,
on the other hand, we usuallyneed to add a little bit morenau
up and efforron because structurally the amigdalais a little bit different in shape.

(49:43):
The women have a much larger hypocampus. We see these changes and so when
you go into a physician's office andyou're feeling down, they'll give you prozac,
and men are like, I justdon't like it. It's not and
it's because we often use the wrongantidepressants. So when you're going in and
you need help, make sure yougo in with the idea that I can
be different than the last person yousaw. And that's a really important point

(50:04):
to look at, because men justdon't like a lot of the antidepressants that
are given out there. When itcomes from more of a natural standpoint,
men respond well to five HTP,which is a precursor. It's an amino
acids, a precursor to making ourown serotonin, and it works really well
for men. Men actually do verywell on five htp. And then men

(50:25):
also do really well I've found byincreasing dim. Dim is a die Endel
esther fide chemical, and by usingthat it helps them keep the good amount
of estrogen around without destroying it faster. And those are a couple of easy
ways to go, but mostly youwant to make sure that you're being treated
a little different than your female counterparts. There you go, there, you

(50:47):
have it. Fill anything you'd liketo add, No, I'm just really
grateful for Rudy and for you.And this was awesome. Thank you so
much, you got it. Thatwas America's Favorite Pharmacist, brought to you
by bioptimesers dot com. That wasour newest and weekly contributor, Phil Kelly
phill is a pharmaceutical expert and aninfluencer. He goes by the handle fills

(51:07):
my pharmacist. And that was theawesome and incredible Rudy Boundini And you can
definitely check out Rudy on the Gramat Rudybundini. You can also check them
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