Texans Falter Against The Lions, Honeymoon Over, Gordy In-Studio and GBU

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Teams series,
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
A Team, What's Up Houston? It is a Monday edition
of the A Team Sports Talk seven ninety wex and
AC with you until six o'clock tonight. Rockets basketball. Following
that is they'll take on the Wizards. But it's all
about what happened across town last night on Sunday Night Football,

(00:37):
A dominant first half, followed by how should I say
this lightly? Should I quote myself on Twitter? Or should
I clean it up a little bit? I mean, it
is the only radio exclusive hour of our show, So
in order for me to say that the Texans got
blue balls in the second half last night, I think
it's perfectly fine because that's what happened. They did not

(00:58):
score in the second half, the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Like like squ I don't even.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Know the word, what's the what's the verb that would
be appropriate? Ground to a halt? I guess, and the defense,
which somehow turned the ball over five times last night
against Jared Goff, had to take an l overall because
the Texans couldn't hang on to a what twenty three

(01:24):
to seven halftime lead. Just the most Houston sports loss
ever as far as football goes, at least. I don't
even want to say the most Texans loss ever, because
the Oilers gave us plenty of heartache. But that game
last night, you had the best team in football in
my opinion, on the Ropes and you just couldn't finish
it off.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And that's what it comes down to. The reasons are many,
but what.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It comes down to is you couldn't finish off beating
the best team in football in your house on the
same day. Where by the way, the Chiefs, I mean,
are you serious right now?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, they could finish off a team that had a
big lead on them, just like the Lions. That's what
good teams do. They did the same thing Texans. Yeah,
they know to blame, and unfortunately the blame is the
same as always. It's not the other team doing it
to them, it's them doing it to themselves. A gift
five times over from Jared Goff. Although some analysis is necessary,
it's pretty hard to score points off turnover when it's

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the last play of the half. But we can pile
on and act like they should have scored points off
of that turnover. Also, it's fine if you'd like to.
I mean, you're right. There are countless reasons, for full
hours of reasons why the Texans are just six and four,
not seven and three or maybe even eight and two.
Why they still sit atop a lackluster division that has
predicted accumulated zero wins. Over the weekend, they maintained the

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same spot they held before, their spot that they are
now very accustomed to, and the postseason is looking more
and more likely for a fourth seed as the fourth
best of the four division winners, and a very likely
Saturday afternoon playoff game, as per usual here at NRG Stateway,
it depends. I had a conversation about where they might

(03:02):
stack up and what other teams might be hosting games
that might play into it, and probably have some thoughts
about that, But they've got seven more games to go.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
The next one is not for another week.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Until tonight found out for certain, ninety minutes before game,
as we told you we would on Friday, what the
status of Nico Collins would be, despite the fact that
they activated him from injured reserve only to have him
inactive for the game, so they needed to clear the
roster spot in order to do that. They did that
over the course of the week with other moves, but

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he was merely on the sidelines in streets and not
participating for the Texans. Those that did good enough to
help the Texans to score on nearly every possession of
the first half, score twenty three points, a few too
many field goals. Really nice drive to close out the half.
Really the nice way to close out the half defensively,
the third of the three first half interceptions to close

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out the first half, and then so it could be
on consecutive passes which turned into three consecutive passes the
Texans open up the second half. Granted the lines didn't
score on the play, but opening the second half up
with the CJ strad interception just lit a fire of
I can't believe this is gonna really happen.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
I know there's another twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Minutes to go in the half, but they didn't have
to say, look, we know what we're like in the
second half, and if you don't know what we're like,
let us show you. Outscored nineteen to nothing in the
second half. They're running four straight games without scoring in
the second half of via the end zone only Cayumi
fairbarn Field goals over each of their last four games
in the second half, just five of those, just fifteen points.

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They've been dominated in the second half of their games.
They've scored eighty two points in the second quarter. They've
scored eighty two points in the second half total, and
it was all on display in their beautiful candy red
uniforms that saw nothing but fan excitement and celebrations and
end zone dances after interceptions in the first half, two

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more interceptions of golf in the second and a half,
but not nearly enough points off of them. That's probably
the point that Tamiko Maryan's lamented the most turnovers are great,
you just have to turn them into points. The complimentary
football angle of it was not on the kind of
display they needed to put a really good team away.
You held the lines, so to speak, to just twenty
six points. You kept them off the board, but one

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drive in the first half. You maintained that lead again
into the fourth quarter. All these games that I mentioned
where they haven't scored a touchdown on the fourth quarter
four straight games, They've had the lead in the fourth
quarter in all four of those games. And this was
the second time in those four games. When you look
back and say, man, how much of that second half
for the Texans trailing zero point zero seconds for the

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second time in four weeks. They never trailed in the
second half of a game they lost with the Packers
taking the lead from defeat, they were trailing when their
field goal went in with zero seconds left. Last night,
a twenty three to twenty three game turned into a
two one six twenty three loss just after the clock
hits zero.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's just an inordinate amount of frustration, particularly with that
division by the way, uh Detroit and Green Bay beating
you on a last second field goal.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Minnesota completely just whitewashed you.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, there's three good teams of that division, of one
team that's falling apart. You beat that team, you lost
to the other.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's I mean, and when you you and I were
texting about this last night, you know, during the first
half when things were going well, and you said it,
they're a good football team, and you've been saying that,
and their record has indicated that, even with the frustrating losses.
Now all of a sudden mounting I have to ask
that question today, Are the Texans a good football team?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, you guys can weigh in on that. I have
an answer. I'm pretty sure you guys know me well
enough to know what my answer is. Seven one three,
two one two, five, seven nine. You're welcome to join
us throughout the afternoon. I mentioned that same spot, they said,
and they're six and four. There are four teams in
the eight FC that I have more than six wins. The
team right behind them who will play this year, the
Baltimore Ravens. The team right ahead of them, the Pittsburgh

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Steelers quite obviously with seven and one of the two
teams that sits at the top of the AFC is
a team they have beaten this year, the Buffalo Bills,
who are now eight and two. Texans are obviously undefeated
in their embarrassing division, so the possibly grab three wins there.
Two of those three remaining games are over the next
three weeks. After Monday Night's game against the Cowboys, They've

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got two division games to follow. Who knows the starting
quarterbacks for those games for those teams based on how
they have played their football and their five to one record
in the conference. All these games we've referenced, they're gonna
play their last NFC game this Monday Night. The first
four we're all inside the NFC North, which almost assuredly
produces three playoff teams in the NFC. They lost those

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three games. I don't think they're gonna lose a fourth
game to an NFC team. Their touchdown favorites currently for
next Monday Night's game against another team who has quarterback
question marks as they ended into their game. But the
wait is to get where you want to go. At
least from a standing standpoint, it's still so remarkably easy.

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I know they've lost a game to a Jets team
who did prove once and for all they are not good,
and the Texans should be embarrassed by not losing to them,
but playing the way they did against them and playing
the way they have in the second half regardless of
the results. They've got to recognize that they are capable,
it seems like, of playing better football, or we have

(08:28):
to realize they're not capable. This explosive offense. That that
explosive offense. This what are we kidding.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Ourselves at this point?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Ten games in they scored forty one points against the Patriots.
They've had zero other explosive offensive performances.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
This year.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
The best output was their opener against the Colts.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
The other eight games.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
If you kick out the Patriots game and you move
on from the first game, what explosive offense? And yes,
there is a made your major difference in the results,
which you probably can't ignore anymore. Five games with Nico
Collins and five games without CJ. Stroud managed to perform
pretty well yesterday despite some very uncharacteristic, well blocked awful

(09:17):
throws that he made in the game yesterday. But the
pressure rate against him against the Lions was just like
it's been for the first four games that Nico Collins smithed.
Five games with him, five games without him. There's no
better relationship between that and how often he has been pressured.
And they did make an offensive line change, as was
reported last week, we can grade that out as well.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, there's lots to get to, lots of Monday morning
quarterbacking or in this case, Monday afternoon quarterbacking to get
to on a day where you can pick basically any element.
I will not I'm not gonna put the defense into
that category. I think the defense did a shob last night.
I mean, you can you can nitpick a lot of things.
But if you're forcing five, I'll say it fine, four

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with an asterisk.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Turn on an.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Asterisk from a turnover? Standpoint, it's an asterisk from How
do you score points off that turnover? You can't unless
he scores on the play. Yeah, but how many times?
I mean even Collinsworth said it on the broadcast last night.
If it's like the last play of a half, it's
a hail Mary, that kind of thing. I don't know
how much they should count those as interceptions even though
it's clearly the other team catching the ball. So by definition, yeah,
it's like players who've never played in majors before. I

(10:26):
don't know how we can characterize them as rookies because
they haven't played in the majors before. What else is there?
There is nothing else? Did you throw the other the ball?
Did the other team catch it? There's nothing else, nothing else.
Winning Rookie of the Year row and show hey, like
they haven't played major League baseball before. Is this hard
to understand their rookies? It's it's as clear as day.

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There's nothing to debate, all.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Right, But there is a lot to debate as we
get to uh huh, going over every bit of last
night's twenty six, twenty three loss to the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety back to Adam
Clinton had Adam Wexler the eighteen.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
On Sports Talk seven ninety so.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Earlier today on Sports Talk seven ninety, a certain radio host,
his name Rhyme's with Schmatt mamis he He said, somebody
texted him and asked him the following question, is the
Texans honeymoon over? I'm raising my hand. You can't see
me because I'm on TV right now. I'm that guy.
I'm gonna give you the peak behind the curtain. I'm

(11:39):
the guy that sent him that text, and I can
tell you the answer right now. Yes, it's absolutely over.
You had your nice little you.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Know, it's so great, it's so new, it's so fresh
and fun.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
All of last season, right and it looked like it
was going to carry right over into this year.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Early on, you had some wins that were signature.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I guess if you want to talk about the Texans
taking that next step, and you look like that's what
they were gonna do. And then things started happening, and
they keep happening, and then injuries set in, which is
a part of any NFL season. But it's like you
said in the first segment, wex they beat themselves more
often than not when they lose. And it's not to
take any credit away from the other team that has

(12:19):
now given them four losses, but when you're shooting yourself
in the foot with penalties, which I think buy and large,
they've cleaned up way better than they used to have,
you know, earlier in the year. But the offensive line
protection and yeah, I said it last night. I think
what was interesting about, you know, just my interaction with
Texans fandom last night on this topic is that after

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the game, I said, I would honestly can fire or
I would honestly consider firing Nick Cassario.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
And a lot of people are like, what does Nick
Cassario have to do with any of this?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And I'm like, well, he's the general manager, first of all,
so he puts the team on the field, including the
one in front of CJ that has just been horrible
for the most part at blocking for him for the
better part of the season. But also I can't not
think about his comments on the trade deadline when I
see what happened last night. At times, it's not the

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only reason the offensive line probably did as good a
job protecting CJ as it has in what three weeks.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Definitely, even though the pressure it was pretty high, it
was a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well didn't have a sacked at least, I mean changed.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
They sacked him four times, nearly all of them the
one that he fumbled on. I would say that that
is a straight up pressure right out of the gate.
That was more like what they've seen over the last
several weeks. And it wasn't because of miss assignment or miscommunication.
Somebody just got beat so badly, and in this case
it was Tunsil. That's a you just can't have that

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often in a game. It shouldn't even happen once if
you're a good offensive line, especially when you're not facing
an elite pass rusher on the edge and the person
he was facing is not an elite pass rusher on
the edge.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
But it did happen, and the.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Other sacks, for the most part, were probably related to
who they have as their outlets right now, who they
have running routes, how they're setting up their protection schemes.
You're not very often seeing five guys running routes. You're
usually seeing three sometimes four, and none of them are
Collins or Digs at current time. Most of the time
it's Hutchinson, Metchi and Tank Dell, and hopefully next week

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that will change with Collins return. But it's pretty easy
from my perch and anybody that's at the game sitting
up where we do, to see sometimes guys are open,
and even in this game there were a lot more
instances than there have been in the past. But on
the plays where he was sacked, either he thought he
could spin away from somebody and he just made it worse,

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or he really didn't feel comfortable throwing it into the
window where somebody wasn't winning their one on one and
two three four seconds go by and ultimately it ends
in a sack and do a great job of getting
rid of the football at that point either. But yeah,
by and large, from a pass protection standpoint against a
average at best defense overall, certainly from a pass rushing

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standpoint there, far from elite. Yeah, they did a good
enough job for CJ too have had a much more
successful day than a couple of touchdown drives, a trio
field goal drives, and an entirely waste of time offensive
second half whin it's scoringy points.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Okay, so let's get into what you know some of.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
The we'll get it continue with Nick Cassaro. He's he's
the man in charge of putting the roster together, and
you said he should be fired.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Absolutely, because this offensive line is just it. It's not
so much so I'm not just like Willie Nelly. Okay,
fire the GM because they lost this big primetime game.
I mean, it's the consistency I've had about the offensive
line since the offseason. And again I love people like, well,
they paid this guy, well, they signed this guy, Like

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I just make convince me that you are as serious
about protecting CJ Stroud and not just that but letting
him go to work. Did CJ make mistakes last night,
like you know, underthrowing Tank Dell for example. Yeah, And
I don't think that was necessarily on the offensive line.
The guy was wide open. If he flings it in there,
it's a touchdown. It's not even close. But he loft

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at it. For whatever reason, that's on CJ. That's not
on the offensive line. It's not because he was under
duress or under pressure or anything like that. But for
the consistency of twenty twenty four. If you're gonna look
back and say, Okay, what was the worst part of
the Texans year, what was the worst area of concern?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
What was it's it's not even close.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, there's no discussion necessary.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, the guy it's in charge of that is Nick Cassario,
So it's I mean, I don't want to come off
as sounding too simplistic, but how are you going to
I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
A new GM would come into an unbelievable position. Yeah,
three other part of the team is either awesome or
fine at the very worst. That's true, but he has
had issues clearly. I don't think there was a whole
lot of importance placed on building the offensive line prior
to them landing their superstar quarterback. And the probably should

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have been a little bit difficult to do when one
of those two drafts did not include a top pick
or a second round pick. So there's some shortfalls or
some issues. You did make some trades, was helped you
get some of those back, and then you ultimately use
them to get two superstars, and there's clearly nothing wrong
with that. You used one pick in the first round
that is a player that not only should be a starter,

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that should be a plus starter. That should be a
player playing to be in the top you know, five
to ten at his position, and then when he's not,
you move on to the next guy, and every team
finds their new guy. And when you were fifth best
at the offensive line at that spot, and then a
couple years later, year eleventh or twelve, but you've had
the one of the five worst left guard spots for

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every year, well all two years CJ's been here, but
truly every year that Nick's been here. It really only
matters the last two. But effort could have been put
into that prior to just those past two years. And
again the effort was it just was very poorly evaluated
because the effort came when you took Kenyan Green and
you did not have CJ.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Strout.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
You drafted an interior alignment in the top half of
the first round that wasn't even on that day a
sure thing. It was a questionable move the day they
made it for who they got, not even for how
they got him. That's also questionable. Why not just draft
at thirteen when too far less likely to fail players
were still on the board. There are always positions of need.

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You always need safeties. You always need de tackles, you
don't always have to take them there. But both Kyle
Hamilton and Jordan Davis are likely to have really really
good careers for where they were drafted one and for
where they play. It doesn't matter where they were drafted.
Either they're good or they're not. And then the paying
players part of it is, well, you have to look
at the alternatives, and I just don't like the way

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that he looked at the alternatives. He felt like that
an issue on the interior, even with Kenyan Green, so
he went out and orchestrated a trade for a former
New England Patriot interior alignment Shaq Mason very serviceable. As
best years were in New England, his most recent years
were in Tampa and they weren't nearly as good. And
his years here have also not been very good. He's
just a veteran and I think people just look past it,

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and they shouldn't. He's been bad. He's a bad interior alignment.
He's a blow average pass blocker, he's a blow average
run blocker. So that's two for two on attempting to
fix the problem or be prepared to protect an elite
quarterback and failing in both instances, your tackles probably you
could get away with for even longer. But man, have
you sunk a lot of money into two tackles who

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I don't think we can say halfway through this season
nine games for some teams, ten for others, a little
more than halfway through the season. That Titus Howard certainly,
I'm not sure what PFS has him. PFF has him today.
He's definitely one of the seventeenth through thirty second best
right tackles in the NFL, and that's being nice and
Laramie Tunsel's probably a lot closer to that than he

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ever has been in his career. He just is not
dominating pass brought pass rushers like he has in the past.
He's still probably above average, But all these years where
he's been above average as a pass protector, he's been
below average as a run blocker. And that still holds true.
So as he tails a little bit as a pass
blocker and you get the same below average run blocking, well,

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how good is he? And yeah, you've spent a ton
a ton of money. The amount of money they spent
should have solved the problem, but it's only if you
spent it on the right players and three players who
have all been given extensions by this GM. Those two
tackles in Jack Mason, they don't make up sixty percent
of a really good line. They make up sixty percent
of one of the league's worst.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, and what it came down to is that you
didn't You didn't find a way to win a game
that you led by sixteenth a half and you didn't
score in the second half, and any number of things
that went into that or what Demiko was asked about
after the game, for example, and this is this is
what he had to say about winning these types of games,
not only against that kind of opponent, but with big leads.

Speaker 8 (20:53):
The approach each week is to go win the game,
no matter how it looks. You know, we don't set
out to win an ugly game, but in this league,
every game comes down to you called that final possession,
So you have to find a way to gut those
out and win. We haven't been on the winning side,
you know of those games, as you know, Green Bay

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to New York and now Detroit. So we didn't make
the plays to win the game. Like however, you win,
you got to find a way and to play to
win games. You gotta have guys have to step up
and make plays, and that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And it's specifically wex not happening in the second half,
which is what I wanted to get to. Next segment,
we'll hear from Joe Mixon. But also just if you
want to start like tearing away layers of you know,
play calling, decision making, and believe me, Bobby Slow is
getting a lot of heat so that all of that
is fair game.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
In the very next segment, the A t on Sports
Talk seven ninety back to Adam Clinton had Adam.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
Wexler the on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It is the A team Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Bottom half of the first of four hours here on
a Monday edition of the program, Texan's losing a heartbreaker
second sort of loss in the division to the NFC
North this year. They lost on a last second field goal.
See I don't like the way wex puts it. He
takes what's already bad and he makes you feel even
worse about it. He says they didn't trail on the

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second half, and then when the clock expires they lose,
and that's just like taking the knife and just well
that's a game when he kicks.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Are last play of the game, provided you have the
you know, the official score working for you.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
But reminding us that they didn't trail the whole half
on top of.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
That, well, that's the thing. Like Joe Mixon even said it.
You know, we've got to play to win instead of
playing not to lose. And you said it in a
similar fashion when you open up the show. They couldn't
hang on to their second half. Let I mean, it's if,
even though this isn't what happened, it's as if they
left the field at halftime, went in there, you know,
ate their uncrustables, grab some fluids. And Dimiko said, look,

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we're up by sixteen.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
We're good.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
If you guys can just hang on, I think we
have enough. I think twenty three is enough to beat
the most explosive offense in the NFL, the highest scoring
team in the league. I think we're good. Just keep
it there, just hang on. Twenty three that's a good number.
That's a little bit higher than our season average for
a game. So you guys killed it. Let's see if
we can hang on. I know he didn't say that,

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and I know they weren't thinking that, but it is
what happened in yesterday's game. To get out scored nineteen
by nineteen points in any half is pretty remarkable. That's
pretty lopsided. And then get out scored at nineteen points
in your home building of a game you led by
sixteen points, which means you severely outplayed the other team,
whoever they are, to the tune of leading by two

(23:52):
touchdowns and two two point conversions, which luckily Dan Campbell
decided to work into his how do we get back
into this game scoring filosophy? Texans are actually pretty good
and we're very good against the run. When they called
for a run on their two point play, it kept
them from adding more to their total. It really would
have changed things the rest of the way. A lot
of coaches do it. Maybe I shouldn't just lean on

(24:12):
Campbell because the Demico has done the same thing chasing
points so early in the game. Based on I can
turn it into this kind of game, a two score game.
I can get us within aid it's a one score game,
not even saying it's right or wrong. Sometimes I might
consider going with a different look to get that two
point play successful, and at that point in the game
the Texas were doing such a good job, especially on

(24:34):
the interior with their run defense, I probably would have
done something else. Nonetheless, nineteen points for the other team,
none for yours. The two turnovers you had in the
second half, you didn't have any in the first half.
Both of them were in my opinion, I do think
there was probably, at least according to CJ, he just
didn't really recognize the coverage that the Lions and Carlton

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Davis were in on the first play of the second half.
But he also threw the ball to the wrong place,
not the wrong person, the wrong place, left it inside.
It made it that much easier for Davis to not
only make a play on the ball, but actually pick
it off and have enough control of it that it
was not overturned by replay. And I don't think it
should have, but it was awfully close. Might not have
been turned into an interception had the official in the

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field said it wasn't an interception.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
The other interception.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
You name the type of poor throw and we'd say yes, yes,
and yes. Did he put too much air under it
to tank in the end zone, Yes, did he throw
too far inside and not lead him Yes? Did he
throw it too late. Yes, again, it's every single one
of the things there. He had been forced out of
the pocket to his right, but he was able to
plant his feet and could have fired the throw in there.

(25:40):
Tank was opened so fast on that play because they
just left him. It happens every now and then in games.
Happened to the Texans a couple times too. I'mna ros
Saint Brown the last reception of the game. I think
he just read the play and was open immediately. They
gained the necessary yardige on third down, and that essentially
what one of the game. Tek just ran into a
spot where the cornerback felt like his zone was to

(26:02):
move up on the receiver they had much closer to
CJ that was coming out in the flat left and
wide open. Those are the plays with this personnel, the
quarterback mainly, you succeed nine times out of nine, and
now it's nine times out of ten. And unfortunately that
one prevented you from taking a thirty to thirteen lead

(26:22):
almost midway through the third quarter. And you saw what
happened after that.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, okay, the interception on the sideline that you were
talking about, is that his worst throw he's ever thrown,
and then the second one might be his second one.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
I would probably just I don't know if it's the worst,
but I would even reverse them from just yesterday. The
mistouchdown to Tank is virtually impossible for a quarterback with
his talent that's been on display for his whole career.
They don't ever miss those. He like I just said,
it was late, It was not thrown the right way
as in how much air was under it versus firing
it in there. And he didn't lead him at all.

(26:57):
I mean, there was more than enough sideline cushion for
him to continue his path talking about Tank his route path,
but instead he basically as soon as the ball was
let go, he had to stop. It was so poorly
thrown he couldn't even make a play on the ball.
He couldn't even prevent the Davis again from making a
second interception of the game, jarring the ball loose getting
a hand in there. That's how poorly thrown it was.

(27:18):
For the path that Tank was on, I think it
was much worse. The other one's kind of a mistake,
like any one of the golf mistakes that Stroud interception
early first to play, those were much more like, like
why would you make that throw? You can't. You know
you can't do that. You know you can't put the
ball right there. Quarterbacks make those mistakes, even the good ones.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, let's talk a little bit about the play calling
in the second half, because, believe me, a lot of
people were like, Okay, well, if you're gonna fire Nick Cassario,
then he can.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Take Bobby slock with him.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I'm it's becoming increasingly clear. I think, at least as
things are going, and I guess things could change that.
I don't think he's gonna be a hot commodity on
the coaching market this offseason.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
A lot of things keep up like.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
This doesn't mean he's gonna be back.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
That's true. That's a very good point.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Just might not be for the reasons we thought this
was Joe Mixon though, on the fact that well, basically
in the second half and uh, the way things went
over the course of the entire game, he knows, like
everybody else in that locker room, the Texans should have
won this game.

Speaker 10 (28:19):
There's no excuse. You know, that's that's a game that
we should have had. We did have and you know,
obviously it's slip, but you know it ain't gonna get
no easier, and I'm gonna take it, you know, we
take it all upon myself to make sure our guys,
you know, is ready. You know what I'm saying, that
we finished these games. We gotta stop playing to you know,

(28:40):
to to lose. We gotta stop playing and not lose,
you know what I'm saying, and go play to win,
you know what I'm saying. And so I just feel
like I feel like we got to just take initiative,
own it, own our work, and look at each other
in the mirror. It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Long time Houston sports will know probably the most clear
example of playing not to lose, and that would be
the Cougars in the the NCAA Final back in nineteen
eighty three, the or actually I guess that was the
eighty two game, the one way back against NC State.

(29:17):
They were playing not to lose in the second half
a large part of that game.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
You hear that, You hear that phrase A lot tony
way to make your free throws, I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
All right.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So what's the equivalent of making your free throws in
last night's game?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Though?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Because is it not okay?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
But also is it not like when you get down
to what second and thirty. I realize sometimes you got
to get out of the shadow of your own end zone,
so things like that, But that was not one of
those cases. I didn't like the play call where you're
running on that play, I mean, try to get some
of those chunks of yards. But there were a lot
of play calls in the second half, not the least

(29:56):
of which was the long field goal attempt that was
missed by Fairbairn that I think everybody who's second guessing
today when they look back at a frustrating and very
very close loss like this one. Yeah, the two plays
in front of that tank.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Dell just caught a pass for nine yards on second
and eight to put the ball at the forty six
yard line, So you're not really in field goal range yet,
but you're close. You probably wouldn't attempt a field goal there.
You hand it off to Mixon on first and second
down against four and two yards, and you get down
to the forty yard line, which now in the NFL
you're in field goal range. You just watched the other

(30:29):
kicker make a fifty eight yarder. And Kaymie has been
outstanding this year from fifty yards and much longer than
that throughout this season. And that's the nature of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I again, I don't have enough time, and I really
don't want to spend the effort, but I probably should.
There's no way there are the same football as they've
had for the last however many years.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Stand look the same.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's well, the kicking balls are it's ridiculous. I mean,
I don't mean it as it's a bad addition, a
bad change to the NFL game. I don't mind the
kickers are making every kick from fifty yards every kick.
It's relative little sarcasm there, but it's not two years ago.
This wasn't happening. There's no guys, bionic foots weren't just

(31:11):
created in a lab. The kickers are not all on
performance enhancing drugs, and that none of them are getting suspended.
The only thing that can change is the football. I
don't think there's any question at all based on the
results that it has. Nonetheless, the third down play was
a pass play. They tried to get enough yards for

(31:32):
the first down. They ran the ball on first and
second down. We don't have enough time here today, tomorrow
and Wednesday show to talk about that and though we
have thirty plus segments to do so. How often they
like to run the ball on first and second down?
But they did try to get they didn't just can
we bleed more time off? Can we force them to
use all of their timeouts? They didn't use any of

(31:55):
their timeouts until they got to that point in time.
There's also pass interference and absolutely blatant. How could all
seven officials, at least the four who were focused solely
on that, How could they all miss it? But they
all did. Yeah, it's a shame. It's not the reason
they lost. They made their own mistakes. They made their

(32:15):
all those things. Yes, this is just one more play
that certainly changes what could happen the rest of the week.
And all of a sudden, you have first down, they
have to burn their timeouts, You're definitely going to be closer.
Everything about it likely changes the outcome of the game.
But nonetheless, they kicked a fifty eight yard field will
because the first two plays netted them six yards. Those

(32:35):
were actually successful runs. You realize Joe Mixon ran twenty
five times for forty six yards. I couldn't help myself
on that one. I did have to look that up.
What's the fewest number of yards gained with a running
back who had at least twenty five carries in a game? Well,
it's the fewest yards gained by a running back with
at least twenty five carries in a game in eleven
years in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
And I went all the.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Way back to when the Texas became a franchise, and
there's only two others that have been worse in that time.
Not that he's bad player, clearly is trying to outrun
the Lions to the edges all evening long, very very unsuccessful.
Trying to run up the middle, also unsuccessful. He had

(33:18):
to run the ball some in that game, just didn't
necessarily have to do it with the plays and at
the times he did it, knowing how little they succeed
on that over the course of the year. Was not
just a last night issue. So you've picked one series
of downs, the last possession and the play calling. There
that a bunch of other possessions. We can pick any
one of those too. I bet you we'll find fault

(33:38):
with it, because there was.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
That should be fun and we'll hear from CJ. Stroud
as we wind down the two o'clock hour.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Next The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Back to Adam Clinton had Adam Wexler The eighteen on.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It is the A Team Sports Talk seven ninety. Wex
and AC with you on a Monday edition of the
program following a twenty six to twenty three last second
heartbreaker of a loss. By the way, it's not just
that he made the kick, it's the way the kick
went through.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Both of the last two kicks verrely snuck through, didn't
even check the upright, but did fly by very much
like Pete Mitchell, a little fly by on both of
the uprights. Plenty of people there were happy, We're forty
eight minutes in. And I didn't even mention it last
night while I was there on social media and haven't
mentioned it yet today. They have had plenty of opposing

(34:37):
teams fans at their games the last two years and
certainly over the last four years. I don't know that
there were a lot more of them yesterday. It visually
looked like it on the way in, and certainly after
the game it felt like it. But I can tell
you for certain they were much louder, They were much
more into the game. There were multiple Detroit Pro Detroit
Lions chance taking place during the game at NRG Stadium

(34:59):
because of how many opposing teams fans were there. It's
definitely a combination of people who moved their tickets and
sold them to people here. Plenty of people I'm sure
from Detroit, and I did notice a few for sure
talking to them. They came from Detroit. It's November in Detroit.
Maybe it's more fun to be in Houston in November
if you're from Detroit, especially to go see your team play.

(35:20):
So there was a combination of both of those. Plenty
of Barry Sanders and even Billy Simms jerseys and other
assorted Lions greats. Didn't see any Calvin Johnson's, but I'm
sure they were there somewhere. They were super loud, super
into the game. Didn't overtake the stadium by any means,
but it was another game. It happened in the Bills
game this year. It's happened in previous games other years,

(35:42):
where when field goals are attempted, if you close your
eyes and listen, you have no idea because if the
Texans make a field goal, it sounds the same as
when the bills ort. In this case, the Lions made
a field goal both of those last two kicks. Was happy,
the crowd was excited for the two baits makes because

(36:05):
the Lions fans were at least enough in volume both
literal personal volume and voice volume, sounded.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Like it was their game.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Nothing alike about that.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I mean I thought, and I look, I wasn't in
the stadium, so you had a much better like just
on top of things view just from a visual standpoint,
let alone the audio, because I mean you could see
the it stood out with.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
All the red in there.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
If you were wearing blue last night, particularly light blue
like the Lions fans were wearing, they.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Probably could have been more red from Texans fans. But
I think with the constant release, like between last year
and this year, how many uniforms did they expect people
to buy.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
From.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
You've bought your whatever alternative or the regular jersey or
a white one. I don't know that you're going to
buy another one so you can comply with, Hey, it's
a redout, it's a battle red night. I mean you
probably they have a red T shirt or something like that.
But there definitely was the Texans fans were there, they
just weren't all in red. And like any game at home,

(37:09):
before the game starts, the fans that come into the
building early are the non tailgating, visiting fans, so you
can you kind of get an idea of how many
of them there are because they're the only ones in
there early, and you can definitely hear them because I'll
be in the middle of, you know, checking on how
incredibly bad my fantasy team is doing most nights, not
last night, but I can hear when the other team

(37:30):
hits the field, and it's not because the crowd is
booing them thirty minutes, forty five minutes, whatever time they
first initially come out on the field. You hear the
cheers for that many fans that are out there. Multiple
players in the Texans locker room, Joe Mixon was one
of them, said it was a playoff like atmosphere. I
get what they're saying, and I think there's an element
of that there, But you don't have any playoff games

(37:53):
where both teams fans can be heard as loudly and
clearly as you did in last night's game. It was
a playoff atmosphere in the quality of teams that were playing,
and it was Sunday night, it was prime time, and
the roof was open and all the hooplah that goes
with it, participation with your phones and the light show. Yeah,
that had playoff atmosphere to it. That's what a playoff

(38:15):
game at home, if they ever get a night game
at home, will be like for the Texans, except you're
never going to have that many road fans at it.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I hope, well, I would hope not for a playoff
game especially, but we shall see. We talked about plays
in the second half, any one of which you could
choose from, but CJ. Stroud took all the blame in
this one after the game, talking about, you know why
they lost this game and just basically trying to take
all the responsibility on his shoulders.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
This is what that sounded like. Following the game.

Speaker 11 (38:43):
We're not going to point figures or you know, I won.
I pointed myself and then two, you know, we got
to just move on firmnations to understand we just took
one of the best football team and best NFL teams too,
you know the wire, but we really should have, you know,
put them away after the first so it's really on
on offense.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
You gotta be better, I gotta be better.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
What I heard there was the exact opposite of what
Demiko said, and I'm glad CJ said it correctly. We
should have put them away. Not these games come down
to the last series. These games come down to the
last possession. They don't have to. The Buffalo shouldn't have either.
You played the Jets two weeks ago, roughly, and it
was a one possession game, and you were leading in

(39:26):
the fourth quarter, and then you weren't, and then you
scored late to make it a one possession game, and
it needed an on side kick. You'd call it a
come down to the last possession game if you want.
I think had nine one score games this year. Okay, Well,
who did the Jets play this week? Was that a
one score game? What about the other times this year
when the Jets, for instance, and I could name any team.
The Bills were not in a one score game this week.

(39:47):
They won easily. The Chargers were not in a one
score game this week. They won easily. Granted every game
is not like that. I believe the Ravens were in
a one point game. That's a one score game. But
you don't have to just kind of fall into that,
and I don't. I think that's really what Demiko meant.
But he's also to give him a little grace. He's
calling it like he sees it for his team. They

(40:09):
got blown out by Minnesota, they blew out the Patriots.
That's twenty percent of their season. The other eighty percent
close one score, come down to the end games.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean, listen when when you're looking at the
it's the exact same season that's happening with the Kansas
City Chiefs in which they're squeaking out all of their games.
And again that's the Chiefs, two time defending champs, all
that good stuff. What they're doing is historic.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
It's literally like winning this many close games in a
row or things that the league's never seen before.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
But if you want to sit there and pick on that,
which I am, I'm just going to like, there's no
way they're going to keep this up.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
They can't.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, but all they have to do is win three
in a row. Now they could whatever they do the
rest of the season, win three games, They're going to
the playoffs. They're winning their division. Okay, so let's say
we get the one seed. All we have to do
is win two home games and win the Super Bowl.
They don't have to win them all, and they don't
have to all be close. They have been so far.
But they're also why are they Why did they win
this game Sunday? They made the last play It happened

(41:10):
to be when their special teams shank it. They blocked it,
and I mean every player they had on that side
of the line could have blocked it. It looked like about
eight guys got through. So it's incredible what they've done.
And you know, they made a kick against Cincinnati. They
made a play against Tampa. They got the ball first
and went down and scored a touchdown in overtime. They're
making it happen.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's not luck now they're they're well, they're making their
own luck if you want to call it luck. But yeah,
it's been excruciating to see how the Texans have lost
a lot of these games. And we will continue to
discuss when our number two begins here on a Monday
edition of The A Team. It's Sports Talk seven ninety
and I'll be next on Space City Home Network.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named at him talking your teams.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A team.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Straight up three o'clock here on Sports Talk seven ninety
and Space City Home Network.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
It is the A team. He is Adam Wexler. I'm
Adam Clanton.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
The Texans fell last night to the Detroit Lions in
what is increasingly becoming very frustrating second halves for your Texans.
They did not score in last night's game. They had
a sixteen point lead. The Lions scored nineteen unanswered, and
the last three of which came as time it expired.

(42:35):
And I gotta tell you, if you're you know, asking
if the honeymoon is over and that kind of thing
with the Houston Texans, I can certainly see where the
bloom is off the rose or whatever whatever catchphrases you
want to apply to this Texans team. That was the
kind of win though, where if you get it, it
feels like you have quieted down some of the growing

(42:56):
whispers about maybe you're not this, you're not that.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Instead you took those whispers.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Maybe they're like a murmur, and now it's like a
dull roar, if not an out and out like megaphone. Hey,
this team has absolute serious problems, especially when it comes
to executing in the second half, and especially when it
comes to the offensive side of the ball, because I
tell you wex any team that forces five turnovers just
should not be an l at the end of that game.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
A couple weeks ago, when they were a plus three
in that same NFC North in a game against the
Green Bay Packers, spent a little time watch of the
research team technically, spend a little time going back and
back and back season after season after season. When you're
plus three, you don't lose very often, do you. I
really didn't think they did. They'd won fifteen consecutive games

(43:46):
going back better than a decade of the last time
they were a plus three in the turnover game and lost.
And now they've done it twice in a month span.
Where a plus three against the Packers, three turnover for
the Texans, three takeaways. They didn't give the ball away
at all. Last night, they were a plus three at halftime.

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They had taken the ball away three times on three
Jared Goff interceptions, and they had not turned it over
at all. Second half both teams through two interceptions, so
the margin remained the same and some of the interceptions,
like the interception at the end of the first half
was followed by an interception by CJ. The interception by
CJ was followed by an interception by Jared Goff. They
had plenty of opportunities to make those interceptions matter, you know.

(44:29):
The one at the end of the first half obviously
is not going to matter a whole lot, and then
the one where I still think that's there's two rules
that at the goal line I think they're really missing badly,
and they are the rules. You know, Kamari Lasker makes
a spectacular play and nobody touches him, and he never
makes an attempt to go forward. He didn't run backwards.

(44:50):
He didn't pick the ball off of the five and
then run and reverse and.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
Put his knee down.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
He dove to catch the ball and a sliver of
the grass catches his elbow as he's over the goal line,
but the ball isn't. So the Texans take over at
the half yard line on a play that I can't
believe they wouldn't want that if they redid that rule,
I would think it s seems like a touchback. And
the other play what didn't happen in last night's game.

(45:15):
We talk about it all the time. It's happened. Happened
in the one of our college football Game of the
Weeks two weeks ago Ohio State and Penn State. Will
Howard kept the ball on a quarterback keeper, ran around
the left side all the way down the sideline is
about to go into the end zone. It gets punched
out and threw the end zone and out of bounds.
So clearly you should give the ball to the other
team and give them twenty yards. That's what they do.
Those two rules I think would need to be adjusted.

(45:37):
But that interception and the one at the end of
the half, I mean, yeah, the Texans should have hauled
off and had a seventy yard drive and kicked a
field are a ninety nine yard drive and put a
touchdown on the board, so you could say, yep, converted
that turnover into points. Job well done. A little bit
much to ask they did their job. You said that
in the first hour, and I don't really see how

(45:57):
you could refute that. Expecting a team as strong as
Detroit to be dominated for sixty minutes defensively by any
defense is crazy. They dominated the Lions for thirty minutes
and they played well enough in the second thirty minutes
to win that game easily. Defensively, just what they did,

(46:18):
forcing two more turnovers, making their drives difficult. Could have
done without the two long Laporta receptions, one on Henry
Toatoa and one on Eric Murray. Those were two plays
you remember last week, Ross Saint Brown was going to
get his, and eventually he almost did.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
At the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Came a little bit shy of a over under which
we were paying attention to here via Stone cold locks.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
But I wasn't quote unquote worried about him.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
I didn't think he's going to torch the Texans for
nine catches, one hundred and fifty yards and a couple
of scores. And even though Laporta didn't do that either,
he had his best game of the year. He was
the matchup I thought they would have the most difficulty with.
They probably caught a break when he went into the
medical tent for ten minutes and they came out and
said he had shoulder injury. Normally, when players are questionable

(47:03):
to return and they're not gonna return, they sit on
the bench, they go back to the locker room. They
don't have their helmet. He stood on the sideline with
all the other offense reserves, waiting to check into the game,
waiting to get subbed in the entire rest of the
second half. And I kept looking over there and I'm like,
why is he not going back in? Is he faking
them out? Is this gamesmanship? Because he never re entered

(47:24):
the game, And I thought that hampered their offense a
little bit, not enough for them not to win. But
they haven't turned the corner. They haven't made more of
these opportunities like you're bringing up and you keep we
haven't really addressed it. The honeymoon phase, the honeymoon with who,
the honeymoon with the team, the honeymoon that they've turned

(47:44):
it over. They used to be unwatchable and not trying,
and now they are. They've got Demiko, they drafted CJ.
They won this regime. So you're saying the front office
with Nick and the head coach with Tamiko.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Yes, So not the play.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Ubble with the quarterback, because you have to.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
If the honeymoon's over with CJ.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Stroud, then I'd prefer to not talk about the football
team the way the fans are talking about it. Then
look I am excited beyond belief. Yeah, what we're getting
on our show, what we're getting on social media, especially
on game day. I love that they're in. Finally they are.
Some of the stuff people say it's just absolutely ludicrous.
So I love it even more because it's total nonsense.

(48:25):
But they care, and they're watching, and they're locked in
and it's their day, it's their week. Everything about what
they're doing revolves around what happens to their football team.
That's what it should be like, and we are there.
I don't know that the honeymoon is over for what
they think this team should be, and I think this
season might just be showing them they're they're not.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I think when I say the honeymoon is over and
you start talking about the CJ. Stroud aspect of that,
because it's cumulative, it's not just one thing. What you're
talking about is some of the mistakes he is making
that don't have anything to do with the offensive line,
but there's a million others where you know, one thing
we didn't mention the entire first hour is just how

(49:10):
many not just drops, key drops like in the end zone.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Or or anywhere else. But yeah, that would probably be
the most.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Important could have done with a replay of the CAD's
stover not catch. I could never They didn't even show
one replay, and it was on the opposite side of
the field from both ourselves and the TV cameras. Did
the dB get his hand in there? I couldn't tell.
I couldn't hit him in the belly. It hit him
where it was supposed to. But I don't know if because.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
He acted like the defender got his hand in there
made that play.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Robert Woods play in the end zone wasn't ideal, but
it was probably a catch you'd like to see made.
Dell sliding towards the out of bounds line inside the
twenty had to catch hit him right in the belly.
He makes that catch more often than not. Those those
plays have got to be made, and I don't want to.
I don't think I'm not ready to separate CJ's poor

(50:02):
play from the offensive line, even if he gets the
chance to stand back in there and then makes a
poor throw like he made the Nico Collins throw five
weeks ago, five games ago, in an absolutely gorgeous pocket,
and that's why he was able to pose afterwards.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
He had a great pocket.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
He threw a seventy five yard touchdown pass and he
had that pocket on occasion yesterday. It probably been four
weeks since he's had one, and yet there were still
mistakes made because there eventually and it's happened. It happened
weeks ago. It catches up to every quarterback like do
I really have this time? How am I gonna get
five more plays like this? Or do I have to

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be perfect on this play? You're supposed to be so
good that you can overcome it, and right now he's not.
But there's always a cumulative effect of how often he
doesn't feel comfortable back there, especially versus last year. There's
a big difference. To me, he did make more throwing
mistakes without the actual play. We're talking about forcing it,
but I still think the other plays lead to it.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, Look, honeymoon is such a blanket statement when it
comes to this football team. It is not a Texans
honeymoon because that that ended, like I don't know, like.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
You went on they this was an awesome honeymoon. This
was probably a multi stop, multi island resort, maybe adults only,
that you went to for three to four weeks, and
then the flight back was I mean, I wish we
didn't have to stop here. I wish we didn't have
mechanical trouble. And then you got back to the house.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
It wasn't a direct flight, which wasn't.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Somebody who was staying back home while you guys went
on the honeymoon. Was supposed to take care of the
food from the party three days before the wedding, and
yet there it was left on the counter. Your cake
that's supposed to be in the freezer so you can
eat it in a year, which sounds awesome, it's just
sitting on the counter. Answer all over, this is what
you came back to. Where are all my very very

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necessary kitchen gifts that I need to open? They're not here.
I mean, the honeymoon's over. Bills, You gotta pay bills.
I mean, now look, I mean before now I had
this house all to myself. Now now he's here all
the time. Yeah, now she's here idle time. Telly moves over.
I mean, this could go on for a long long time.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I do think there are some elements to that, but
for the most part, I think, you know, if if
there were people out there that were like, hey, just
hang on a second, wait, till you get some film
on this kid, it's going to be a lot tougher.
Or wait until you play a first place schedule, or
wait until this line that we know is not great
doesn't block the way it's supposed to, or all three

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of those things I just said, and many other things
all coming into play at the exact same time as
you're playing the best team in football.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
The worst news is their first play schedule that they're
playing this year has not come into play. They haven't
played those two teams yet. They play Kansas City because
they finished first, They play Baltimore because they finished first,
they haven't those games haven't even been played yet.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
And they haven't played the Dolphins yet, whichever version of
that team it is.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
But yes, and all the other teams would be on
their schedule no matter where they finished.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
And it's gonna get it's gonna get softer. Well I
think he's gonna get softer starting this week. I'm not
putting it.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Can we just say it today or do we have
to wait three weeks? The nine and four Texans have
four more games to go. Well, I'm not can't you
after all this negativity, this wet blanket that I draped
over this entire television and radio production. Yeah, can I
rip it off and drive the room and say, yeah,
the nine and four Texans have four games to go.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
No, because they were They should have beaten the Jets
and they didn't. The Jets were coming off a five
game losing streak. They were down as low as they've been.
Sound familiar Cowboys fans. I'm not putting a w in
the I'm not putting, you know, one in the win
column for the Texans automatically going into next week, although
we probably should because they have a lot of problems
up there in Dallas.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
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Speaker 1 (53:54):
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Sports Talk seven nights.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
You know, it's a good news, bad news situation about
the Houston Texans. Uh. The AFC South is an absolute
cesspool and that is baked into your likely division championship.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
For years to come.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Yeah that's but here is.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Shane Steichen announced today after some stellar work from Joe Flacco,
he will remain their starting quarterback. Jared Goff thinks Joe
Joe Flacco doesn't turn the ball over enough. Joe only
had four turnovers.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Do you feel like and I was watching this last
night and the Texans, I mean, say what you will
about how they lost that game, and I think the
offense gets I don't know, one hundred and ten percent
of the blame sounds about right. That defense exposed him
for what I've always kind of thought he is, which
is just a guy. I know that he had Joe Flacco. No, well,

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I know Jill Flacco is just a guy. Jared Goff,
He's not just a guy. I might be in the
minority when it comes to him. I've never I've just
always thought he's all right. I don't think he you
know why, because for all the high praise he got
in that Super Bowl season, I mean, they dropped him

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like a bad habit as soon as they could to
get a real quarterback in Matthew Stafford, who had been
languishing in Detroit for years. There's a lot of irony,
you know, in that situation.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
And he went to the Super Bowl in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Started the Super Bowl I've ever watched.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
It was just they didn't do anything. It was awful,
very very winnable game. The next two they went to
thirteen and three. That year They won nine games each
of the following two seasons with him as the starter.
He missed one game in one of those two seasons.
He was just noticeably worse back to back seasons with
the passer rating of one hundred two Pro Bowl appearances.
Second of those two seasons they went to the Super Bowl.

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The two years that followed significant major drop off and
passer rating. Completion percentage was roughly the same, but his
touchdowns went way down, his interception rate went up. He's
just not the same player. And they found an alternative,
even with all the money they had to eat, that
made some sense, and it took some time in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
His first year in Detroit was awful, well that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Like, but then there was talent, and when he was
playing with more talent in Saint Louis at the beginning,
or with the Rams at the beginning of his career,
and then now here, like just a guy is a
little bit too harsh.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Okay, how long would you have to name guys until
you got to him.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
In the top ten? You know who he is.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
He's Matt Shobb. He's just right there in the middle.
He's good enough to win you games, but he's not
the reason you're winning the games. More often than that,
he's got to be surrounded with a lot of talent.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
No offense to the Shober, I think Jared Goff's better
than Mat Shop.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
I think most would.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Agree, but not significantly if he is. I mean now,
I mean, there's no way to answer these questions. I
would much prefer to have Jared Goff leading my team
than Matt Shop.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I mean, You're right, they're probably not a tremendous difference.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
So Jared Goff was playing on those Texans.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Teams, there's no difference. I mean, they shouldn't. They wouldn't
be worse in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
The problem is his best season he got hurt, so
Timeout Shop.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I think Jared Goff would would manage himself okay. With
Andre Johnson as a target and Arian Foster in his
back hand, he could manage all right, as you as
people like if they're talking down to quarterbacks or up quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
The news manage.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
The word manage has to be used because that's all
we want to call them, even though I think it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I just feel like like CJ.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Stroud is a game manager. So is Pat Mahomes. They
all manage the game. I think it's total nonsense.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
But they're a different game manager than Brad Johnson.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
If you're lazy and you don't know anything about football,
you can fall back on that term. Yeah, he's a
game manager. What does that mean? Well, tell us what
he does, tell us what he doesn't do. It's kind
of like what happened to brock party.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
But didn't you feel like last night?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
And I realized he threw multiple touchdowns, but I still
felt like they won that game in spite of his performance.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Yes, for the first time in probably two years.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
But that is a huge compliment to the Texans defense.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
He did things like the interception that Bullock had. I
was like, what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
By the way, Nick Caseario full credit for that. If
I'm going to kill him for not addressing the offensive
line properly his late round. I mean him and Lassier
were badasses last night.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah, Lastyer got two picks on the cash cussed by
his teammate. We talked to Jimmy Wardaff again, although I
did not ask him about that. I mean, he would
not have expected a player to be where he was
in that manner. If not for Piney Sewell and Lasser
was trying to make a play and he was also
trying to avoid getting flattened by one of the league's
premier lineman run blocking down the field or blocking for

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a play down the field, and when he spun away
from him, he kind of exposed himself to a noted
reckless sounds harsh, but I do think it's accurate. Jimmy
Ward is a reckless hitter.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
So since we're on this topic, what was the worst
own violence play him? Are tightest Howard stripping the ball
from and what was he doing?

Speaker 4 (59:11):
He was trying to keep him up by grabbing onto
him to the football. Well, he he did not grab
onto his arms like I think he realized he intended to.
But once he had already put his arms out there
and started to pull, all he had was leather and
the pig skin and as the fumble which he then
landed on.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Oh great, so he gets no points. It's not a turnover, Brownie.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Well, if he wasn't there two other linemen that had
missed their blocks were right there to get on it.
That was That was the play where Larimie Tounsel got
just absolute But he didn't even lay a hand on
the edge rusher off the blind side, and so CJ
had to slide back away from him, which he avoided.
But by that point in the play, Titus Howard had
lost his man and stopped. He had no longer continued
the play once his man has passed him. The play's

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not over. Your quarterback's not down. This quarterback, like most
good ones, are trying to extend the player, trying to
find an opening. He was able to step up into
the pocket last night, for the first time in three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
He didn't have happy feet either.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
This was another instance where he at least was able
to find room within a so called pocket. I don't
know what you'd call that. It wasn't really a pocket anymore.
But there was a place to go, and he tried
to go there, but then Titus's man was now there
because Titus had let him get by him where he
thought his quarterback would be out of trouble, and he
just he You know when you can see a player

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who thinks the play is over, he kind of just
the energy went out of his body until he realized, oh,
they're about to wrap up my quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
It's just not it's not good enough. That's what I
keep coming back to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
With the offensive line, it looked better than it did,
but that's the bar was so low.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I think they can certainly win games offensively with the
lineup they had in yesterday's game, but we also have
to recognize against whom they were playing, and it turned
out there wasn't a nose at Aias Smith. I don't
know if the fact that he would have been on
a team that doesn't have a buye had a lot
to do with it. There were two players that got
traded at the deadline from a team who'd had their
by or from a team that had not had their

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by to a team that had, which meant there was
no buy in their future. Preston Smith was the other,
Zadarias Smith. He was there for enough of the week.
He did not practice throughout the week, But everything he
said and everything they said leading up to it, which
is why we talked about it the way we did
on Friday, was great. The Texas is going to be
the first team he's on the field against. It all
looked like he would be out there for it, and

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Nico Collins had that in common. I mean, clearly was
a little. He wasn't coming off with an injury. He's
perfectly healthy. He just played a billion snaps each week
for the Browns the weeks prior to this, So they
caught a break and it really just didn't seem like
it had a whole lot of impact there, like the
break they didn't catch the week before, when Hassan Redick
was that much more ready to play. It was his
second game back, but now on a little bit closer

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to normal rep load.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Well, and again catching a break, although it's at this
point it's not really they did catch a break because
the rest of the division is so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
It's just so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Yeah, I don't really see anything happening in their favor.
The Texans already take care, taking care of their four
games against the NFC North, and the other teams haven't,
and they're on the horizon as well. With you know,
Minnesota played Jacksonville last week. Mac Jones is embarrassingly bad,
and so is that team with or without Trevor Lawrence.
And they somehow managed to not get blown out one
by saying somehow, I mean because Sam Donald threw too

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many interceptions and one of them was it at the
goal line. So that's the somehow Minnesota didn't blow them
off the field, it was still easy to win with
their billion mistakes. Three times in the game, Sam Donald
targeted Justin Jefferson and the pass was caught by the Jaguars,
and they still won twelve to seven, rather easily. Colts
lost of the Bills by ten. Four turnovers for Flacco

(01:02:43):
and Will Levis early in the game touchdown drive.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
First drive of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Basically they shut her down on offense after that, and
the Chargers beat them easily. The Vikings have another game
inside the division this week, which is they're licking their
chops every time they leave. So Southcoming, you know, put
up a graphic every week of the title of it
says that you see on Space City Home Network or
Texans lead AFC South. I have not had to ask

(01:03:09):
for help on how to retitle that. I know how
to update the standing of the division. I just slide
over to the L column and just add one to
it each week that they don't have an off week.
And that's what happened this week. The Texans, they had
it all in front of them to have a pseudo
four game lead, a seven and three Texans team would
have had five more wins than two of the teams

(01:03:30):
in their division would have had three more team wins
over the only team in the division they've played twice,
whom they've swept. With seven games to go, all they
had to do was basically score in the second half.
That's basically it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Oh, and there were so many opportunities. And you know,
going back to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
He pulled to Darnold himself Stroud, he threw an interception
in the end zone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
How about he throws it as Dan Campbell is saying, hey,
we got to force a turnover. I knew he was
gonna throw a pick as soon as I heard him
start saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
I mean, it was like, well he's he's manifesting it
as a coach that says, what's for real? And well
some are some are I love Dan, How are we
gonna win this game? We got to fix the turnover game.
We gave him the ball three times. That's how that
we have to force turnovers. It's just theyd unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
And then they didn't say we.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Have to stop giving it away because they didn't stop
doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
No, no, they did not. And yeah, Jared Goff played easily.
His worst game of the year and doesn't matter still one.
That's how I feel about like every Chiefs game this year.
They look terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
That's how I feel almost every single time they play.
But no matter what, it could be worse right here
in the state. Yeah, the Cowboys h CJ. Stroud, Michael
Parsons doing a little jawing in the preseason. Michah Parsons
is still talking and you're gonna hear from him. Not
great up there in Dallas. Well, really Arlington, and we'll

(01:04:47):
dive into this upcoming week's matchup.

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Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
They witnessed a murder yesterday and Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Thankfully the murder included a victory.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Oh that would have been bad. We'll get to that
a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
But first of all, we want to get to you
guys seven one three two one two five seven nineties
telephone number seven one three two one two five seven
ninety for the first time. To get today, we go
out to the phone lines. Katie is the area. Pat
is the caller. What's up Pat?

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Not much? Man?

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
How y'all doing good?

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
I come on now, little little energy if you if
you don't mind, I'll want to go from a nap pad.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
I'll build I'll build it up now. It's just, you know,
some of the frustrations of seeing how things are during
these games kind of blow my mind. Last night, Uh,
in our interception at the one yard line, it didn't
seem like they should have contested that because I thought
its momentum taken into the end zone, so the interception
would have been brought back to the twenty or twenty

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five or whatever it was instead of being at the one.
I thought that was a huge call because that's still
put Detroit in scoring position if we didn't move the
ball one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Hundred percent did There were two officials there to make
the call. The one that was in the end zone
immediately called it a touchback. The referee, the umpire that
was or the judge that was on the sidelines, he
came over and they had a discussion. It looked like
he wanted to overrule him, but I don't think he
did until they went to replay. It was a change
of possession automatic looksie and that's when they came back

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with They determined he was down in the field of
play before going into the end zone.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
I've described it earlier, Pat, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
I think that's a just doesn't seem like the call
that we would want the rules to dictate should be made.
In those situations. Seems like an easy fix and an
obvious one.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
Yeah, it seemed like it. But otherwise than that, let's
just go on and start winning. Let's take it. Let's
start it off of the right foot next week and
take care of Dallas and go from there. Guys, appreciate it.
Thanks for the time, See you later.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Yeah, so segue.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Next week is the game in Arlington. Hopefully the sun
will not be a factor at night for Monday Night football.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Both teams know what the sun is going to do
every time we play.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
They have three wins, they probably have a decision to
make a quarterback. Both of them ended up playing last week,
and Dak's absence Cooper Rush was extremely unsuccessful in moving
them down the field.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Early in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
They obviously missed that one touchdown pass that we alluded to,
throwing it to either Ferguson or Ceedee Lamb. Neither of
them could see the ball because it was in the sun,
which CD acknowledged after the game said he was pro
curtains which they use for other events but not Cowboys games,
to block that sun. And then they ultimately went to
Trey Lance when the game was long decided. It was
a lopsided game again at home for the Cowboys. But

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if they're looking towards the future with the expected news
at some point today or tomorrow, with a real confirmation,
not just reportedly, that Dak's season is in fact over
and that a potential season ending surgery is the reason why,
so they don't they don't have a lot to work with. Clearly,
their off season was very limited in terms of going

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outside the organization to try to fix areas of need.
They'd won a lot of regular season games three years running,
they had not looked good in the playoffs in those
same three years, and yet their off season was one
that was questioned by pretty much everybody outside the organization,
and I think inside the organization, certainly on the playing field,
in the locker room. I don't know if it was
questioned in the front office. But the Texans have that

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team against whom they're currently roughly a touchdown favorite, and
I don't think it'll probably change a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
It doesn't really matter who the Cowboys start at quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
This over under is going to be spectacular this week.
I can't wait to try and pin this one down.
I'm so mad about last night. We tied for the
first an.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
We got it all the way to week eleven before
we had found a push situation. I had taken one side,
You had taken the under once again, one twenty three
to twenty three. We weren't totally done yet because had
Bates missed his kick, goes to overtime, you have the
opportunity for a touchdown to make the over, or you

(01:10:03):
could still end in a tie to still hit the under.
Not saying I was thinking maybe an overtime safety would
get it done, but that would have kept the under
as well. But yeah, the two of us both had
that side of it. Dan taking the Texans to cover
at three and a hook got the win. So he
remains in a good place, not in the circle of
hell known as ties on the stone cold locks. But

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we'll get to that as we make our way through
the week and get you back here on Friday. The
judges are having they're not certain on what the game
of the week is for us to pick only because
of you know, like when someone's gonna win the whatever
Award for like the tenth time, where Duke's gonna go
to the finals for like the whatever number of times.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
You get fatigue.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
The committee choosing the college football game of the week
for Stone Cold Locks is acknowledging loud and clear right
here on the A team, there's a little bit of
SEC fatigue. Even though we snuck in Ohio State Penn
State a couple of weeks ago. There is an obvious
best game on the slate this weekend, and with the
SEC releasing their Bible today, do you know what the

(01:11:09):
Bible is?

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Well, I know what the Bible is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Do you know what the SEC Bible is here in
the sixteen team conference they now employed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
It's the tie breakers. We're figuring out who gets into
the championship game, and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I'm assuming Tennessee Georgia is what you're referring to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Tennessee and Georgia are playing this weekend. It most likely
will be our selection. Yeah, no, we just I mean,
this is SEC country. Are the home of the Longhorns,
We are the home of the LSU fighting omars.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
I guess after last weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
I mean, if the Big Ten wants us to pick
more of their games, maybe they should be better games.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
I'm considering one other game, even though it has far
less of a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Pro from Mexico State Texas, A and M.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Clearly who Now you've opened the door for an all
timer of a dad joke.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Well why are you waiting?

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
I mean, who do you think is gonna win? Just
say it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
I don't want to say Okay, then don't say it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
It makes me sad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Okay, So yes, probably not that game between the Aggies
and the Aggies. You said it anyway, I did, but
not in a normous dad joy. Yeah, not in a
normal kind of way. So yeah, all that's out there.
Where were you headed with this before the Micah Parsons?
Clearly we can go there. So I actually where I

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was headed with it was the nine and four comment,
And we'll get back to Micah Parsons.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Oh well, yeah, you have to win this game.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Well, in order to get to nine and four, you
obviously have to beat the Cowboys. You beat the Cowboys,
who are going nowhere, non playoff team who routinely gets
run off the field, and then you come home short
week to play the Tennessee Titans. They've won twice, they've
earned every bit of their two and seven record. Then
you play the Jaguars, who have done the very same
thing with one more loss on their record. Then you

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have the off week. Absolutely positively confirmed my feelings on this.
They're going to be nine and four. They're going to
not look as awesome as they should against the Cowboys,
but they're going to win, and I do think win
and cover. And then they're gonna win their next two
games against Tennessee and Jacksonville, and they're going to have

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a three game winning streak and they're going to be
nine to four, and they're gonna probably, I mean, I
wish I could say I know that they've clinched the
division with four games to go. It's still a possibility,
but it's not a guarantee. You have to close with
an extremely tough schedule. And I finally found a site
that I could go ahead and predict all the rest
of the games. I don't think that the teams they're

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actually chasing the Bills, the Ravens, and the Chiefs, the
other three division leaders, and the Steelers, who are technically
to division leader. They lead their division at seven to two.
You know what their record is inside the division, zero
and zero. Maybe when they start playing some of these guys,
it will change a little bit. I don't think they're
gonna be able to catch these teams, even if they
win their next three, because then they play them, which

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they have to then win. If they were going to
I don't really care at that point. Just go ahead
and win your division, maybe gets rest, get yourself a
home playoff game to open up the postseason. See who
you can avoid in that game, and so you can
line up against after that. Just start winning your game.
Take care of your business. That's what they've been missing
most of the last four weeks. Sadly, I've been putting

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out some negative, unpositive tweets. What those next?

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
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Speaker 9 (01:14:38):
So back to you it, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
So the the Texans and Cowboys, the matchup we all
thought about at the beginning of the season. When the
schedule was released this summer, we all knew it was
gonna be Cooper Rush and c J.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Stroud squaring off.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
Don't even know that now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Well, Mike McCarthy did say fifteen minutes ago apparently that
he will start but Cowboy's gonna add a third quarterback
to the team. So, I mean, the way they got
after the quarterback last night, who knows, maybe that third
quarterback will be play, you know, seeing some playing time
after you know, Trey Lance and Cooper Rusher knocked out
of the game by the Texans pass rush.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
We shall see.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
But I look, there is never a shortage of drama
surrounding the Dallas Cowboys. And back when we played that
epic exchange between c. J. Stroud and Micah Parsons this
past offseason, I mean, we were looking our chops for
this gouty Monday night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
It's gonna be up at Jerry World.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
You know there's gonna be you talk about the Lions
fans coming to town last night. I mean the last
time I went to a Texans Cowboys game in that stadium,
I believe it was twenty fifteen, maybe twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
You know they play on even years.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
It was it felt like it was fifty f I
mean it really say, I even took a picture of
the bowl from the press box.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
It looked like it was fifty to fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
You could hear them, especially when JJ Watt almost got
to Tony Romo and didn't and he threw the game
winning touchdown pass. But this time around gonna be much different. Texans,
as you mentioned, better than a touchdown favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Maybe seven and a half depending on what you're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Scares the Bejesus out of me because they just had
this scenario on the road, playing it down on the
dumps team. The Jets had lost five in a row.
This would be the Cowboys fifth loss in a row.
If the Texans take care of business.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
I imagine the Texans would be okay. Had they played
the Jets backup quarterbacks in that game, well yeah, I
mean they would have helped need to hold them to
under thirteen points because that's all the Texans got.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Can they please score thirty in this game this week?

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
It would be nice.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Do you think it's likely though?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
With Micah Parsons in company on the defensive side of things, like,
do you really do you feel like this is when
it happens for the first time since the Patriots game?

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Yes, because Nico will be back, I think and know
because they're on the road. I mean I cannot give
you a yes answer on that because they have literally
done it one time. They did it to a team
that's battling for the number one pick, the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
Well, starting a rookie quarterback for the first in his first.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Start, and he threw you the ball three times.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Well, they got it five times last night.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
And they absolutely should have scored thirty points in the
game yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
All right, So Cowboys lost again yesterday to the sixers
to the Philadelphia Eagles, same city, different team. Uh, they're
three and six now, right, And Micah Parsons was asked
what he would tell people wondering whether or not Mike
McCarthy is going to be the head coach next season.

Speaker 13 (01:17:48):
That's what both my pay grade about if Mike is
coaching again next year. But you know, all coaching aside coaching.
You know, Mike can leave and go wherever he wants.
But guys, I you know, I kind of I feel
bad for this, Guys like Zach Martin and guys who
might be on their last year, on their way out,
you know, because that's what I wanted to hold a
trophy for. Ye know, you want to win games and

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do great things with those type of legends who put
in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever did.
So those are the kind of guys that have so
much sympathy and.

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):
Hurt for it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
I think it's safe to say that Michael Parsons is
not a huge Mike McCarthy fan, and they're not going
to be exchanging Christmas cards.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
I think the way it was delivered on social media
with not had a lot more context. So I'm glad
you guys heard all of that. I do think there's
more to it. I think the way he said it
sounded awful. I don't think that's what he really meant.
He's coaches and players are different in terms of what
they put in in a In a player's mind and

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the time is the same, but what you're putting into
it now that you're a coach, if you're a former player,
it is different. You're spending hours and hours and hours
scouring a film and figuring out the best way to
teach your players. They need extra time on the field.
You're spending time on the field. They need extra time
in the film room. You're spending extra time in the
field room, film room. But they're putting their bodies on
the line. He and Zach Barton for all of the

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years that Parsons has been with the Cowboys. They've been
on the field together at practice all these times. They've
been on the field together, and all these disappointing playoff
losses all these times. And that's where I think he's
coming from. It's not a McCarthy is less important to
me than Martin because I like Zach and I don't
like Mike. It's they're different. It's comparing them to each other,

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I think is something he was almost trying not to do.
And then the other comment he made, Mike and go
coach wherever he wants. If you hear a player, if
someone types that quote Deck or Michael Parson just said
he doesn't you know, it's above his pay grade. If
when asked if Mike McCarthy would be here next year
and he said Mike can go coach wherever he wants,
that sounds incredible. That sounds he wants to get he's

(01:19:52):
trying to get him fired back right way. But what
he's intending to mean by that is this established NFL
winning coach can coach wherever he wants if he's not here.
That's a lot more words to say. Yeah, but that,
in my opinion, is what Micah intended to say.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Well, you brought up the most pertinent thing to this conversation,
which is that when you read that quote, the first
part of it gets all of the attention and did
for the last, you know, twenty four hour news cycle.
The second part is what sounded like a slight to me,
where he says, these guys, these type of legends put
in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever did. Well,

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Mike McCarthy has won a Super Bowl as a head coach,
and Micah Parsons hasn't gotten to the conference championship game
because that's not what Dallas does.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
He made sure to point at somebody else and not
himself in comparison. And like I said, maybe I'm being
too naive. It just doesn't seem like a player who,
especially this player who just got back on the field.
The team was It's clear how important he is. I'm
not saying they would have won a bunch of games,
but they're clearly significantly less capable of winning when he's
not on thee. But take that's if he said what

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he meant, If that's really what he meant, that's an
incredible shot at your current head coach. Basically saying he
doesn't work hard as hard as we do. He's not
giving it as much to the effort as we are.
My again, my explanation was, he's not a player, so
how could he. It's not apples to apples. His body,

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you know, clearly, Mike McCarthy's bodies not on the line.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
He's a coach. It's different.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
That's what I'm benefit of the doubting it for Micah,
what was.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
More entertaining that came out of this game?

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Because obviously the loss is the best, But then after that,
what was number two versus what was number three? This
little hiccup of a SoundBite from Micah Parsons or Jerry
Jones saying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
We do know where the damn son's going to be
at our own stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Ceedee Lamb's like a yeah, I couldn't catch that touchdown
pass because a stupid son was in my face and
Jerry won't pull the drace.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Yeah, you in favor of curtains one thousand percent? Have
you had a conversation with Jerry about this? You guys
are doing the work for me. This is his conversation
with Jerry through the media that I'd like to see
us do something about the fact that this impacts the game.
These are questions we asked here in Houston this season
when the panels were blown off of NRG Stadium and

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we knew that there were going to be two games
played without them. One of them turned out to be
at night it was kind of a non factor, and
the other one, Jacksonville game, they had actually gotten them
in place for. But we had seen what it looks like.
This part of the field, this part of the stands
is in the sun. It wasn't in the end zone.
It wasn't from that angle that it is at at
and T Stadium where it was in the players.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
It's a line of sight is the same.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
It's it does seem like at this point in time
after this man and they haven't had that I guess
they haven't had that many games affected by it, or
else they probably probably would have done something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I feel like it's affected every week at this time
of year. It's a time of year, it's where the
sun is and it's where they.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Started their game later afternoon games.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, but it's just it's just the most hilarious thing
ever that they built the stadium the way they did
at that weird angle.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
If you've ever been up there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
He suggested, they could tear it down. It's very flat.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
You could have just angled it just slightly forty five
degrees and you wouldn't have this problem. But that's the
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Four o'clock hour is underway here on Sports Talk seven
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a Monday, We've got Chris Gordian here over the next
couple of segments to talk all things. If it's got
football involved in it, he's going to be all over it,
especially if it has the SEC. Wex was afraid to
put another SEC game. He was scared to put another

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SEC game on our stone Cold locks for this week.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
And I said, why what are you afraid of? It's unpredictable,
a little bit like the Texans as of LA, a
little bit unpredictable. I said this two weeks ago that
going to that Jets game, I said, that was so
uber important that if they did not like the where
they were at six and two. I said, you're going
into New York to play the Jets. If you can
win this one, you're seven and two. You feel good

(01:25:27):
about where you are, still one of the best teams
in the AFC, and you know you got a week
plus to prepare for the Lions. But I said, if
you lose that Jets game, you fall in the danger
of losing these next two. You lose to the Lions too,
Suddenly you're six and four and you're closer to five
hundred than you are to being the best record in AFC.
That's exactly what happened. You didn't bring your A game

(01:25:48):
against the Jets. You lost. You played your A game
for about a half last night, didn't bring in the
second half. And now, yeah, I mean this team we
would how different would we be feeling if they were
seven and two or you know, seven and two going
into last night and you let it slip away. Okay,
we're still one of the best teams. But because it's
back to back losses now, all of a sudden, a

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lot of people, you know, I sell by sell a
lot of people who is Monday moren going there I
sell on the Texans, So what a mess?

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
And they're going to be going to Dallas where they're
just starved for a win. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I mean, Texans are what seven and a half point favorites,
you know, right on the outset. I just they've got
wounded animal written all over them. And I know their
quarterback situation is a mess.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
It's a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
But I don't like any sort of line that's had
issues protecting CJ. Shroud going up against the hungry Micah
Parsons and a team in general that's like starving for
a win. You're in there building, you don't play it
well away from from NRG Stadium, you just don't. CJ
doesn't he you know, they've they've won some games, but
I just it's it's a I don't know. I don't

(01:26:56):
like the feeling going into this, particularly because of the
things that you just say, good news this.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
McCarthy just announced they're gonna stick with Cooper Rush, so
you know that. Look, Trey Lance would have been even
worse of a disaster. But you should, you'll be favored
in the you should beat go beat Dallas in Dallas.
Then you get Tennessee, who's a mess. Will Levis just
came back. That was a mess. Then you're a Jacksonville
they're a little bit of a mess. You get Miami,
who's not really they don't look the same as you know,

(01:27:22):
as they did earlier in the year. So like in
other words, these next few weeks winnable games you can
get back, in other words, buy back that confidence from
the fans.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
Are though, like you said, losing to the Jets and
then now it's two in a row. Well, the point
is they lost to Green Bay as a playoff team.
They lost to the team they played last night. Line,
that's that's a playoff team, right, Like everybody knows they're
gonna win the division.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Everybody knows they're going to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
Everybody knows they're getting a home game, But then they
have to play a team that they're not showing often
enough they're capable of out playing. And that's what I'm
talking about, Like the big picture is when are you
gonna you know, I know they beat the Buffalo Bills,
and I know they've pretty much been competitive no matter
who's been on the field with him other than Minnesota,
But there's only so many measuring stick games and actually
Joe Mixon used that word last night. These teams that

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were playing these are who you're gonna play. They have
to figure out a way to be on the right
side of it. And so looking at just this last
night's game as they move forward through the season, kind
of walking through it. They made a major change. They
took two positions on their offensive line and they changed.
Kenyon Green got hurt. Obviously somebody else is gonna play
left guard. They chose to slide their center over and
put him back in the position he played most of

(01:28:30):
last year and bring in their center who played that
very same center position most of last year. Also, it's
going to stay, for sure, at least one more week.
I'm sure it's here to stay. Don't you think they
they did a better job to allow the passing game
to perform. Clearly Joe Mixon at his worst game of
the year, so I can't ignore that. But don't you
think what is going to actually make this offense work?

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They did a little bit better job of, or maybe
a significantly better job.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
Yeah, that's what so crazy. CJ looks so much more
comfortable on that first half. I mean, it looked from
the guy we saw the last two weeks or at
least the game against Green Bay and the game against
the Jets, like he just looked. He looked confident. He
was he had time to throw. He wasn't here like
we were saying on Halloween nights seeing ghosts. He wasn't
seeing ghosts or hearing footsteps. He was settled in. Now.
The second half was a little bit of a different.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
Second half was a poor performance, Yeah, it was. I
don't really think that changed.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
Situational play calling right. Put it this way, if Nico
Collins plays, do you feel like they win that game?
I think two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Ago it was brought up to him at the podium,
and I think he correctly said, I don't really think
that's what's going to make the difference the last night's game.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
I would disagree.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
It wasn't asked of him last night, and I do
think they win that game last night because of the
just tiny little bit of extra time they started running
the plays they should have been running for three weeks.
I'd have to go back and look at the specific
of when I sent it out that threw a past
to Xavier Hutchinson that it's like it's in every team's
playbook and they haven't used it for three weeks or
four weeks since NKO has been You got to put

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those plays in there because you're trying to not only
you're trying to accommodate for your lack of pass blocking,
but they work even if you're a great passat These
are all here's eight yards, go get them.

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
They couldn't be any easier.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
They did all this passing last night when they had
the worst running game of their entire season.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
Yeah, and I don't think it was on mix. I
just think no, I don't. I don't know if it was.
I don't want to say predictable because it's not like
they were telegraphing we are running the football right now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
It was first down, so I think the other team
knew they would be running on first down.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
But that's what they did. Just ready for it, man,
like they were. They were so aggressive and headhunting and
just coming for you. And that's what I kind of
felt like. You know, the reputation that this Lions team
has kind of developed, maybe not so much as the Ravens,
but when they don't throw that flag late in the
game for the you know what people said should have

(01:30:45):
been pass interference.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Right the past interference.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
I just think you're the Lions have developed that reputation
of their coming. They're gonna smack you, They're going to
hit hard, they're going to do all these things. They
almost sometimes those teams get a little bit of a
pass from the rest because, like the Ravens last year
in the playoff game, like they hit so hard so early,
so often the refs are like, well, we'd have to
throw a flag on every.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Play if they're just out of curiosity early contact and
that sort of Do you think the Texans defensively specifically,
which I think is what you're referencing, are like that
at all. You look at the Jamison Williams catch where
you absolutely almost got cut in half with the two
hits that he took, and the way that they did
handle their running game for much of the two biggest
plays from Montgomery and from Gibbs were not on running plays.

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They were on pass plays behind the line of scrimmage
that turned into long games. They did a really good
They were hitting hard, they were bringing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
The moments of it, and yeah they have moments of it.
I just feel like the Lions since Dan Campbell's been there,
started kind of developed that mansis they got eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Dan Campbell's out there, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
And you kind of and Aaron Glenn kind I mean
he's up there, high five in and everything. Every soon
as this guy's come off the field. I feel like
you kind of developed that reputation and the refs. I
don't even know how to describe it, but like you
get a little bit of a leash, you get a
little lee to do a little extra, whereas some other
team doesn't. Ah, that's a flag.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
If you're playing against Kansas City, that call gets made.
And I hate that we would say it, but I'm
only telling people what they already know that that was
a pass interference. It's not hard to It was harder
to miss it than to call it. They chose not to.
Doesn't change the outcome for sure. It certainly extends a drive.
It probably forces them to call their time outs. Puts
you in a better field goal position. If that's all
you end up getting, you could get two more first

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downs and score a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
I mean lots of things. Just Tank del last night too.
I thought he was a little maybe not timid, but
like dude, you got to fight for the ball sometimes,
Like when the ball ends up getting intercepted in the
end zone. He's just sitting there waiting and waiting. That's
how bad my description was. That's how bad the pass.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
It wasn't a great pass. I get it, couldn't even
get there. To not away from Carlton Day.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
You've got to help your your quarterback a little bit
and go get the ball as opposed to letting the
dB just.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
I just think he's running along to go catch a
pass and he's like, why is the ball here?

Speaker 5 (01:32:58):
And why is it getting here.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
The only thing I would say about Dell was he
had a drop that was kind of important in the
red zone. Gives him another chance to put points on
the board. And that was from a touchdown perspective. He
just he had a fine game. But those are the
catches you know, your starting wide receiver. I'm not even
trying to pedestal you, but you gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
Tries to reverse field.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
I just go down.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
There was no killer instinct there last night. There was
no Hey, I got to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
I'm glad you brought that up, because as far as
killer instinct goes with play calling, a lot of people
coming for Bobby Slowick's head after that game, and it's
it's the same. It's the same thing every week. Second half, Like,
what is going on? And he got I think he's
getting the lion's share of the blame this week because
of some of the particular play calls. But it's a

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it's an offensive thing in general because it's like I
told him earlier, defense did their job and then some
last night, five picks and you lose.

Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
Yeah, anytime you get shut out in the second half,
it's gonna work out questions total Like, but I mean,
let's also be real. If Timy Fairman makes that field
goal and then Detroit doesn't answer and they win twenty
six twenty three, are we sitting here going something has
to change with slowic. I mean, I think you know
it's because they lose. It's magnified a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
But so anybody scored three points in the second half
instead of zero.

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
But how does it go from this guy was red
hot last year? Oh my god, what a higher we got.
He's being interviewed for all these head coaching jobs. Oh
my god. I hope he doesn't get picked because we
want him to come back next year. So suddenly this
year everybody wants him fired. He's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Now he won't come back next year, but it's because
he gets let go.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
Yeah, it's like we should try Jerrod Johnson. Straw John's
never called to play before.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Like, do you think it's as simple as people have?
Just looked at the Texans offense and it's CJ's second
year and a lot of factors that come into play.

Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
The combination of all that, the old line inconsistent. CJ
has not been as special as he was. You know,
he had way more special moments last year where he
just maybe he just didn't know any better or he
had time to now maybe it was more film out
on him, and teams are like, oh, I noticed when
they do this, he does this. Think it's a combination
of all those things. The slow It deserve blame, yes, absolutely,

(01:35:03):
But is he the sole reason why this offense is inconsistent?
This team has lost a couple of games, and man,
first half their offense right hot, they're awesome, and then
the second half they can't score points. Yeah, there's some
blame there, but I don't know. I wouldn't put it
all on Bobby Slowan.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
It's a very, very, very weird season for the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
So far, especially for a team with a winning record,
and it just feels like they've left so many wins,
not just chunks of offense, but wins on the table.
But they've got a wounded animal in the Dallas Cowboys.
As we mentioned, coming in this upcoming week Monday Night
football should be very interesting, as will the conversation with
Chris Gordy here in studios. We continue here on a

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Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Will be playing on Monday night, so the sun's not
gonna be a problem as it was yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
There's all this talk about the sun.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
So there's this WFAA reporter that's in Mike McCarthy's press
conference this afternoon, about an hour ago, he tweets out
a picture the sun is causing a glare in the
Cowboys press conference room. So there's a shield to block
the sun from Mike McCarthy's face. Novel concept, And there's
literally like you can see the sun coming in the
side windows, and they've got this shade up so that

(01:37:27):
it doesn't get in Mike McCarthy's face. Which is just
going back to yesterday's loss. It's not the reason they lost.
I mean, they got blown out by the Eagles, but
I mean when Ceedee Lamb's apparently not able to catch
a just a shoe in touchdown in the back of
the end zone because he said he was blinded by
the sun.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
It's something to at least think about. Here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
They're not gonna have to worry about that the sun
will be well down primetime game. But you just the
Texans and the Cowboys. I feel like, go into this
matchup absolutely needing this win for very different reasons.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
Yeah, and it kind of stay. I mean, look, I
like the primetime games at all, but it's like we
had a short week and we got them playing the Jets.
That was awesome, and they did a week a week
felt like a week and a half to see him
play again. And now you're telling me I have to
wait a week from tonight to see the Texans again.
It's just a lot of a lot of time off
in between. But no, look it's the Cowboys. Yes, they've
they started to get healthy on defense. You know, they've

(01:38:22):
gotten some pieces back. But my god, that game wasn't
like where's the pride? Like they're just a debacle and
do it if the if the hope is to get
Mike McCarthy fired, they're doing a great job. I mean, honestly,
next Monday very well could be Mike McCarthy's last game.
If the Texans going there and demolish them, it may
be the last game he ever coaches as a cowboy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Texans fans will love that they were the last one
that finally broke the.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Well maybe, but they might actually hire somebody competent in
there and do a good job.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
Bill Belichick, well, I don't know about the Dion.

Speaker 5 (01:38:58):
I'm intrigued by that one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
That would be that would be those are the two
high profile Well, just so it happens now and unless
it maybe doesn't later in the week.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
On the Dion college football side, he's doing a really
good job. He's doing a really, really good coaching job
this year with a team that I think myself included
underestimated and I probably overestimated how good the competition is.
The competition is a bunch of average teams that they've outplayed,
which is excellent, and they're lining themselves up to potentially

(01:39:30):
playing the conference title game, which obviously means you have
a chance to get yourself in a not just to
the playoff, but any really good spot in the playoffs.
I think, tell me if you agree the fact that
he even took the time to joke with Matt Liinert
about his son Cole committing to SMU rather than considering Colorado.

(01:39:50):
Is there anything to that, even subluminally, that makes you think, yeah,
he's in for Colorado, he's staying. He's he's in it
for longer than a short term.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
With his.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
The people I've talked to have said all along they
thought once his sons were done, he's making the jump
to the NFL. And then even more so, I mean,
and if there's a real world where I don't know,
I know, they just recommitted to Dak So maybe it
wouldn't make sense for Shador to get drafted to the Cowboys.
But there's a real world where he could end up
in an NFL team with Shador as his quarterback. It's
really intriguing. Somebody brought this lineup to me a while

(01:40:23):
back about Dion Jackson. State hired Dion because of his
fame and popularity and it was going to help recruiting.
Deon got the Colorado job because he can actually coach football,
and he's actually a really good coach. And I get
year one of the Pac twelve. It was not good,
but they just didn't have the Jimmies and the Joe's
yet like the talent they were facing the Pac twelve
was it was a big discrepancy. But in the Big

(01:40:46):
Twelve they're actually pretty damn good. And all these games
where they've been underdogs in finding ways to win when
people are doubting and picking up against them, finding ways
to win. He's done a really good job there. And yeah,
between them and by you, I mean who had that
on their Bengo card before the season. Yeah, Big Twelve
Championship b YU Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Just people who play Bengo. So the Cowboys have two
left with the Commanders, a game left with the Eagles
who just trounced them, and Cincinnati and Tampa who probably
are still fighting for playoff positions if they continue how
they're going. They also have a game against the Panthers
and Giants, obviously the Houston game. There are eleven teams

(01:41:25):
in the NFL with three wins or fewer. They all
have two wins or three wins, so the Cowboys win
total is only one higher than a team who's currently
in position to land the number one pick or a
very high pick, a pick that would be in position
to draft Shade or Sanders or anybody else. I think
it would be pretty amazing if they re upped with
Dak and then immediately moved after all this stuff that

(01:41:47):
Ac and I brought up all the sun. This the
son that did he not Jerry Jones not rip Dak
severely with his comments about well where were you?

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
Were you not here? We were bad with him too.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
I thought we'd play better with this these guys than
we have been with Dak. This is what he said
after they got clobbered yesterday without him. Sure sounded like
he took shots at his fallen quarterback who he's re
upped with, like it's his fault. They're three and six, right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:13):
I just thought that that was I get why they
did what they did, but I just thought they were
gonna let this thing play out and you move on
from Dak because we've reached his ceiling in Dallas. We
know what it is. Maybe a playoff game, but that's
about it. Yet, you know, I get the alternatives. Oh
my god, what if we don't have a quarterback, then
we don't have anything? And this is all Yeah, that's

(01:42:35):
why they all got extends, the reset button. Look how
Washington turned around this quickly with Jane Daniels. Look at
how the Texans heard around this quickly with c. J. Stroud, like, well,
it takes us the one great young quarterback and.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
The Texans aren't in that situation. They haven't even reaped yet,
but they will. I mean, you run through the list,
we talk about it all the time. Just quickly before
we jump back on Houston, Daniel Jones to uh, Trevor,
Lawrence Dak was there another extension this offseason because all
of those look awful?

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
They do? Did Joe Burrow reupt right? Not too long
ago but not this offseason? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
But did he He wasn't a last reason regardless, this
was the off season of not paying Jamar Chase.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
I thought, yeah, they all smart or t Higgins right,
they don't regret paying him, but all those other ones,
I mean the Daniel joll like.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
But het also, what did he have done differently than
Dak and Lawrence Intoa?

Speaker 5 (01:43:26):
He was in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
Yeah, he's he's proven at least in short term, Like
there was no question about it and we wouldn't be
second guessing them later. He could have gotten hurt, he
could have played poorly. I would have never said what
a dumb decision, but I think I said it about
all of the other four. Yeah, it's there is a dak.
I got to take that back. I did not say
it about it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
There is a fear in this league that if you
don't have a quarterback, you cannot compete. And there's been
a few, alternatively few exceptions where a backup has stepped in,
and Nick Foles here and there and all that, but
for the most part, look at these teams. When you
lose your starter, you are done. And so there's such
a fear there of not having that that you're willing
to overpay a mediocre, mid tier quarterback, somebody that if

(01:44:07):
we did rankings, would be ranked fourteenth, fifteenth or sixteenth.
Yet let's pay him like he's a top seven quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
So, having said that, Burrows deal was prior to the
twenty twenty three season, or just as it began. The
feeling you had the last three weeks. You keep talking
about losing your starting quarterback, he said it. Everyone's been
worried about it. They can't keep playing games like this
or they're going to lose their quarterback. There's going to
be a hit or a series of hits. That has
him on the sidelines, it has whoever the backup is.

(01:44:33):
It's obviously currently Davis Mills. Did you feel any differently
after watching sixteen minutes against the Lions from a positive negative,
any differently about how he was in the pocket all
day or his thirty plus dropbacks?

Speaker 5 (01:44:45):
Yeah, Like I said, I thought, I thought he did
at a great job all things considered. But again, it's
to me, it was just it was a tail of
two halves. Obviously the second half not as good. But yeah,
it felt like how many times did he get hit
last night? It felt like they did a better job
of protecting than the week prior against the Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
And well they cut their sacks in half.

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he was so that's a step forward.
But yeah, man, I mean that's that's the reality of
this situation. Like I said, there's other teams where the
backup could step in a team be okay, this team,
If if number seven goes down, it is over. That's
all she wrote. Pack it in season's done. But again,
maybe that bodes well and in playing weaker teams. Look,
Dallas does have studs. They have Michael Parson, they have

(01:45:26):
all these guys but like I just hope the hope
is playing these crappy teams in the next couple of weeks.
Take out the trash, win big, show them you're one
of the still one of the best teams in the
in the AFC, and let's get some wins.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
CJ was hit five times last night. To answer your question, So,
December fifteenth, at home, when the Texans lineup against the
Miami Dolphins, are they nine and four as wex is predicting.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
They should be? I mean, that's that's if you go
to Jacksonville lose, that's a devastating loss. You can't lose
to that team. You can't losing Dallas. You can't lose
it home to Tennessee. You absolutely should win all three
of these.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Is it more or less devastating than going to Dallas
and losing on Monday night? Given everything that they're going
through right now.

Speaker 5 (01:46:11):
Yeah, you can't lose that game. You cannot lose that.
I don't know what could put it this way. There's
no word where Cooper Rush is going to lead them
to twenty eight points right right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Not against now, I would think, not against the Texans defense.

Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Yeah, So that's where I feel good even if Stroud
and the offense aren't clicking on all cylinders, at least
the defense should win that game for them.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Last thing, worst thing from the game last night.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
I mean to the to the stat five interceptions, dude,
five interceptions and you can't find a way to capitalize
with that game Like that's that to me is the
most mind boggling. I mean, that's what's I guess I'll
have to dig into the research. But how many times
has a team in the NFL had five interceptions and
lost a game? Like That's just that's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
Never it's happened before nineteen seventy, this happened since NT Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Thought for sure it was nineteen seventy. Gordy, We appreciate
the time as always.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Good to see this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Yeah, we will do it again next week. We'll talk
to you actually later in the week, I think. But
no matter what, we're going to get to what he
was just mentioning elements of last night's Texans game, the good,
the bad, and the ugly from that loss to the Lions,
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Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Now, the good good, the bad that's not good, and
the ugly that's getting real ugly with the eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Oh, it's that time of the Monday Show where we uh,
we get to well, we get to several elements of
the game that we've been talking about for two and
a half hours already, the good, the bad, and the
ugly from the Texans loss to the Lions last night. Jeez,
it's gonna be a lot of options for all three categories.
Dan is good, I am bad, and wex you are

(01:49:12):
so ugly today. So that is the order of events, Dan,
take it away, all right.

Speaker 15 (01:49:17):
It's gonna sound lame, but it's really a microcosm of
the game. Tommy Townsend finally looked like the Tommy Townsend
you thought you were getting from the Kansas City Chiefs
last night and should have been a reason that you
won that game last night.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
I can't argue with that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
It was very noticeable, you know, being there when I
am Sometimes I'll pay more attention to Kaymie working out
before the game or Townsend working out before the game,
and I did a little bit with in Townshend's case,
Kymie's workouts pretty much are the same, one thirty forty
fifty yarder after the other and then they head back in.
But knowing that Townshend has been on the backside of

(01:49:51):
the ledger when it comes to ranking among punters, and
it's been pretty clear that you know, this punt wasn't
very good, and that punt wasn't very good, and you
should be pinning them inside the ten and instead they're
at the twenty two. And I just happened to watch
one of his kicks where it was practicing for when
you have no room to punt. You know, John Weeks
was lined up maybe at the three or the four,
and he was at his heel on the back end

(01:50:13):
of the end zone and he punted it. And I
think Steven Simms was out there working out with them
at the time, and he was standing at the opposing
forty five yard line and he just kept coming in
and coming in, and he caught it like the forty
three forty four, like a forty yard punt, which has
been pretty standard for Townsend. And I noted it to
myself that I hope that's not what we get again tonight.

(01:50:34):
And Dan's right, he was awesome hang time and distance.
It was necessary because sometimes the way most teams are
employing their returns on punts, catch the ball and run
straight forward. Just get what you can get and move
on to especially their offense, get the offense the ball,
and that's what they were doing. So in the fact
that so many of these were fifty plus sixty even,

(01:50:55):
I do think it helped the Texans a great deal
in light of the fact they couldn't score second half.
He had a few very key moments. They punted more
in the second half, they scored more in the first.
That's a that's a pretty clever and accurate good. What
about the bad?

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
All right, So the bad, it'd be easy for me
to say, oh, well, yeah, I had to play calling
in the second half that was bad. I would say
I would go step further in the situational play calling.
And I mean we talked about this earlier, specifically, kicking
a fifty eight yard field goal when you have what

(01:51:31):
four yards to get. It's not necessarily the call itself.
I think it's what it says to your offense how
many times last year and I could be over selling this,
how many times last year did the Texans go for
it in fourth down, fourths and short situations? Let's just
leave it that And it was not even a question

(01:51:52):
the as the season went on and CJ became what
he is and you were like, yeah, of course they're
gonna go for it. You can't get four yards with
this offense and this kid. It's like they've gotten scared.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
Of it now.

Speaker 4 (01:52:03):
Well, fourth and four at the forty under two minutes.
If you fail, it's a goat goat situation the game
goat horns versus the goat most I mean, I'm not
saying they're gonna make any long kick, but you don't
want to give them the ball that close to field
goal range at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:52:19):
If you fail, do.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
You know which you ultimately did plus six yards because
you missed.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
Yeah, I just that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
You went for the conservative option and the same thing happened,
So I know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
I wouldn't I wouldn't call it conservative. That's a makeable kick.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
People were calling it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
Yeah last night, they're more than welcome to I'm not
right on this. I just wouldn't have nested I might
have done something differently on first and second down to
try to avoid third and four and then fourth and four.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Conservative as fifty eight yard can be, I.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
Guess, well, think about if those first two runs had
been typically unsuccessful. He gained six yards mixing did on
those two carries two yards and fourour yards after gaining
forty yards total on twenty three carries. So they were
pretty confident that he would put them in a better position.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
He actually did. It'd be nice of each goes on.

Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
I was I was saving this for the ugly, so
we'll transition into it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
So he had twenty five carries in the game last night.
Eight of them were for more than two yards. Seventeen
carries for Joe Mixon.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
So this is the ugly for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
And they gained two yards or less seventeen times they
handed him the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
He was so frustrated he threw his helmet down on
the sideline. It wasn't because of necessarily the play calling,
as much as he just couldn't get anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Yeah, the play calling from a run perspective. At some point,
it seemed like they kind of kept trying to do
things that were consistently not working. A lot of the
runs that were directing him to the edges that were
having the flow of the offensive line. The whole defense
along with him flowed to the edges, and I was
really not inhu. I wouldn't have liked that game plan
going into the game against the Lions. I would have

(01:54:02):
liked the one that says run through them. But I
can't lie and say that worked either, because that is
what they tried the opening. You know, few snaps of
the game, they would run on first and second down
and convert on third, and then they would run on
first and second down and convert on third. This is
where I think most people are up in arms. And
there's so many advanced numbers now with you know EPA,
specifically expected points added if you're unfamiliar. They are so

(01:54:26):
far and away the team that runs more on these
downs where you're running on clear passing downs downs of
third and seven or more, or first and second down
of ten or more. And they've done it more than
anybody in the league, and on top of that, they've
done it with less success than nearly every team. They're
not at the bottom in terms of success, but they're

(01:54:47):
close and they are at the top slash bottom, and
how often they're doing it way more. That's where the
big picture play calling is at issue, because while you
do say that, and I totally am on with it,
they still called plays that should have scored touchdowns. There's
no question they had plays correctly called, perfect time, well executed.

(01:55:08):
Everything's right there for them, just the last part of
the execution, to say the CJ. Stroud getting the ball
to tank in space, it didn't happen. And on top
of that, it was an interception. It could have been
an incompletion, it could have been a number of different things,
but he just made a huge mistake there. Plucking one
play out of a game plan is tough. So that's
why I think the bigger picture of it is a

(01:55:29):
more accurate reason why we're four weeks into heavy pressure
and unfortunate. I think play calling to go along with it.
Earlier in the show, I mentioned I'd posted a couple
of pieces of information that were i'd say, far from positive.
I think that's putting it nicely, but it falls right
in with these offensive items. Twenty twenty three, CJ. Stroud

(01:55:50):
led the NFL in interception percentage, lowest interception percent. He
also led the NFL in passing yards. Yesterday, he threw
a sixth interception in the tenth of the year, which
is now one more interception than he's ruin his fifteen
games last year. He leads the NFL this year in
one category though, most yards lost when sacked. He's number

(01:56:13):
one in the NFL. He was sacked four times.

Speaker 3 (01:56:16):
He makes it count.

Speaker 5 (01:56:17):
They lost forty one yards on those sacks.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
And during this period of excessive pressure these last four weeks,
sacks for three and four yards lost.

Speaker 5 (01:56:26):
They aren't happening.

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
Sacks of third and seven lost, nine out of field
goal range. Can't go for it, third and ten. Now
it's fourth and twenty one. He's trying to make plays.
I don't blame him for it hasn't really worked. He's
spinning into bigger, worse loss tackles sacks if you.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
Will, and it's just hit them too much.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
Now, this is an ugly that'll spin us into our
next segment of.

Speaker 5 (01:56:48):
A little bit more good. First five games of the
year for CJ.

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Stroud sixty nine percent completion percentage, seven touchdowns, three picks
as passer rating was ninety eight plus last five games
it was worse fifty six percent completion seventy eight and
a half rating. Why is that a good first five
games with Nico Collins last five games without Nico Collins?

Speaker 5 (01:57:11):
Is that all it takes?

Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
I hope that Toxans to turn it around and have
a huge offensive day, score a touchdown in the second half.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
We'll discuss next.

Speaker 9 (01:57:22):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
Ninety Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler.

Speaker 9 (01:57:30):
The A Team now continues.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
Did I again, It's not super impossible to go this route.

Speaker 5 (01:57:41):
I'm not some genius.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
It didn't come up with some formula or some massive
equation to say I fixed the Texans last segment?

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
Did you?

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
I mean, is it as simple as yeah, put the
best receiver back on the field and you're good to go.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
Okay, So here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
Though Collins missed five games, they have been extremely disjointed,
uneven offensively in those games. He doesn't play offensive line.
I had a little conversation with somebody about something I
had said on Friday that made it sound like I
didn't think he would make a difference because he doesn't block.
He clearly makes a difference. And I may have not
I know you're talking clearly.

Speaker 5 (01:58:14):
YEA. He changes how teams have to defend you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
He changes the commitment that their personnel might have to
him versus stopping something else. And he's successful, you want
to put him in single covers. Awesome advantage Texans. You
want to commit more people to him. Awesome advantage Texans.
They just have not had the ability to do that
for any of the games he missed, even the ones
that Stefan Diggs was there for. And it's doubly compounded

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when you now have played a couple of games with
neither of them. I do think John Metchi did a
really nice job in this last game. He could have
had an even bigger game with some of the routes
that he ran and some of the things he did
while CJ scrambled over the last couple of games. I
think he's done a nice job of recognizing what you're
supposed to do and kind of being in lockstep with
CJ where he can go to give him an outlet.

(01:59:02):
He had a really productive game, and I believe in
the last couple of weeks he could have maybe had
even more production. They still need the players that put
fear into defensive coordinators. And that's what Nico Collins brings.
I'm hopeful that what they did with al Shire and
Jimmy Ward were essentially what they ended up doing with Nico.
I'm not a fan at all of what they actually did.

(01:59:24):
Logistically playing games with the Lions. To not play Nico,
I thought was silly. I'm glad they didn't activate him
and for the game and not play him. If you
weren't going to play himt the very least, he belonged
on the inactive list, But I'm not sure why you
would activate him to the roster on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
That's what I'm mad about.

Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
So if you knew he was going to be inactive.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
And I'm not sure that anything took place between Friday's practice,
Saturday's announcement, and then the Sunday late inactives, but I
do think Jimmy Ward and Alshayer probably they appeared to
be and I think from what I gathered, could have
taken the field against the Jets. But not taking the
field against the Jets, Mets, you had another ten days
to get ready for this game, and Nico not playing

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last night, maybe had the eight days to get ready
for the Cowboy game, and maybe in their mind and
their health and athletic performance staff and everybody involved. This
is the best way to give ourselves the best chance
that he's going to play, and not just this first
game whenever it is, but all the games after that
unless there's a new injury, because we're not really concerned

(02:00:29):
about an aggravation of the current injury.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
And how about this, if you could hang on to
a sixteen point halftime lead, you win.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
The game without him.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
By the way, he's absolutely going for twelve catches in
two hundred and ten yards and two touches.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
You remember what I gave is the over under on
Friday Show if he played for the for catches for
Nico on Sunday which turned out to be zero.

Speaker 3 (02:00:52):
Was it nine and a half?

Speaker 4 (02:00:53):
It was six and a half catches for Nico?

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
I thought, or maybe it was it was targets six
and a half. I said it, okay, there was no
actual line because he was not going to play. Do
you remember what the mixing over under was? Yeah, I dude,
I'm sorry, it's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
I thought a better record than you.

Speaker 5 (02:01:09):
Yeah, we had the same two two and one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
It wasn't worse.

Speaker 4 (02:01:11):
It was not worse.

Speaker 5 (02:01:13):
It was not worse.

Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
And overall and overall you maintain your lead, which will
revisit on the Friday edition of the program when we
hit our stone cold locks four thirty signature second time.

Speaker 3 (02:01:24):
Before you step aside.

Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
Oh yeah, I gotta go down to rockets hit to
a center, Steve. If they can make it back to
back dubs wins at five of their last six, go
go see.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Who is Jalen Green putting in a body bag tonight?
That was awesome And I don't mind the technical it was.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
I thought it was worse when I saw it live.
You thought the I thought he under deserved the technical
for how over the top he was.

Speaker 3 (02:01:48):
You have the trash talk was worse when you saw
it life, But.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
Then I saw it on replay in his face, which
is probably enough.

Speaker 5 (02:01:54):
But he wasn't doing much.

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
He can't point out. I'm like Sean Kemp, he did what.

Speaker 4 (02:01:59):
Chris been caught doing it. I do it all the time. Yeah,
like when you make some face that so oh I
have and you immediately go to.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
Stall Chris Paul. That was the one time with Kenny Mauer.
You do that like five times a minute.

Speaker 5 (02:02:14):
He did that to Kate.

Speaker 4 (02:02:16):
He screamed, and then immediately went back into who do
I have to defend?

Speaker 5 (02:02:19):
What's the situation here?

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
It also happened to be at the point of the game,
the one point in the game, that third quarter stretch
where they dominated. They had a nice run early in
the game, clearly, and.

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
Kate had a better overall game yesterday by far.

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
He's had a really really good step forward season this year. Yeah,
but it's Detroit. It is Detroit. You can see how much.
I don't know if you could see it. I think
you can see it. I think everybody can see it.
Their talent's not much different, but they're playing harder. They're
trying harder to win games under coach Bickerstaff, who she's
a good coach and she's getting destroyed because Cleveland was

(02:02:53):
really good with him last year and they fired him
and now they can't lose Cleveland is has been unreal.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
Are the best team in the East?

Speaker 4 (02:03:01):
Well they went with another former Rockets assistant, Kenny Atkins.

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
You know who's not the best team in the East.

Speaker 4 (02:03:06):
Well, the Sixers did get a win.

Speaker 3 (02:03:08):
They're hurt, so that doesn't count.

Speaker 4 (02:03:09):
The Buccaneers, Holy, they're craps. I know they're not pirates.

Speaker 2 (02:03:14):
It doesn't matter to They might as well be. They
might as well be the fawns. At this point, they
are horrific and you better keep your eye on that.
Because Jannis, Oh, Yannis, I thought you wanted Dame.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
Why would I want Dame?

Speaker 5 (02:03:28):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
Why would I mean in trouble if I say what
I was about to say?

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
Jannis is I'm not the biggest fan, and he showed
why once again yesterday with his stupid fake out.

Speaker 4 (02:03:41):
Jason Brown called him a child, and he accepted it fully.
He says, I am well, he sounds like one too.
He acted like one, and that's why I think Jalen
said it. And then when he's oh, he called me
it was pointed out to him. He called you a child.
He's like, you know, I try to have fun out there.

Speaker 3 (02:03:55):
He's not going to. He's not long for that.

Speaker 4 (02:03:57):
He is leading the nba'sco so far this season. May
think Anthony he was the brow ahead of him, Now
he's slightly behind him. Okay, thirty one point six points
per game, making sixty one percent of his shots. He's
taking less than one three point per game.

Speaker 5 (02:04:13):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (02:04:13):
The best version of him.

Speaker 4 (02:04:14):
He's awful at that and pretty much everything is on
par with what he's been doing throughout his statistical career.
The leading scorers in the league are most of them,
even Anthony Davis. They won six of the nine games
he's played, Jason Tatum, they won nine of the eleven
games he's played, Nicholas seven out of the They're usually
playing for big, awesome winning teams and he currently is not.

(02:04:35):
I'm not sure that Chris Middleton makes a much of
a difference. Like, I'm not sure what it is they're missing.
I think they're just not real good.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
But I think when he well, what they're missing is
what went out the door when they traded for Damian
Laws Defense. No, I told you this last year. I
don't think you were there that day. You might have been, though,
we had a conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
Let's just say so. It was a member of the
Bucks organization and Darrell.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
They're not winning a title ever again anytime soon because
they screwed up their chemistry. You see this all the time. Look,
the Rockets are one of those examples. Way back in
the day, everybody's.

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
Like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
You just won two titles and you got swept by
the one team you can't match up with. Granted, so
you traded your two fourths of your core for washed
up Charles Barkley. Now, Barkley had like thirty rebounds and
twenty five points in his first game after he served
a one game suspension. But at the end of the day,

(02:05:33):
you basically said, all right, now, we can beat Seattle,
but we can't beat Utah.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Yeah. I think Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
Maybe maybe there's some similarities, but to me, it's so
specific to basketball. They're a top five defensive team with
Drew Holliday. They're a bottom tenth of the or bottom
third of the league back ten without him. Last year
they did that. That's where they're trending against this.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
Giannis is thirty, he's not thirty five. He's got prime
years left. He's going to one out, So.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
So you'd bring him off the bench with a antari
and just destroy second.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
Yes, he's not getting starters minutes, come on now. Yeah,
I would keep an eye on that because the Rockets
are gonna be one of the few teams that have
a very enticing package with both talent and picks to
send to Milwaukee. Not saying it's gonna happen. I'm just saying,
if I were running the Rockets, I'd be making phone calls.
Five o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
Coming up next.

Speaker 9 (02:06:21):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking Your
Team serious. Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A
Team A all right?

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
The fourth and final hour is underway here on Sports
Talks seven ninety and Space City Home Network. Wex has
departed on his way to Toyota Center. I'm serious. I
hope Jayalen Green put it's another who's on the Wizards.
Who plays for the Wizards, Matt Thomas. I probably shouldn't
give this away, he asked me before we started the

(02:07:09):
show at two o'clock. He said, at name five Wizards,
he goes name one. I was like, ah, I got you,
you got me there. But it is football at five conversation,
and I do hope that Jalen Green puts some member
of the Washington Wizards in a body bag. We're about
an hour away from that coverage getting underway both here
on Sports Talk seven ninety and on Space City Home Network.
I also want to get to something before we move

(02:07:32):
on here to another football related conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:07:36):
So I got a tweet like about an hour.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
Ago, bomb the Base nine that's his Twitter handle, very catchy,
rolls right off the tongue.

Speaker 3 (02:07:46):
He says, no way, it was near fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
Come on, And I go, I didn't get that tweet
until like twenty minutes later, and I said, I have
no idea what you're referring to. And he says, the
Cowboys Texans game back in twenty fifth.

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
I just find it hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
I know lots of people traveled from Houston for that game,
but many of them were.

Speaker 3 (02:08:06):
Also Cowboys fans. And this goes back to this state.

Speaker 2 (02:08:11):
You know, Look, everybody hates the fact that to this
day the Cowboys refer to themselves as America's team. That's
about as embarrassing as can be possible, especially this season.
Like America didn't. We didn't ask for this, We didn't
want this put on our plate, especially this year. I mean,
a perennial flame out in the postseason is not something

(02:08:35):
that I would like associated with my reputation as an American. Okay,
now you can feel how you want to feel about
the recent election and everything else that's going on in
the world. But let's face it, we're all Americans and
we're awesome. We have pride, we are the best. Therefore,
our football team, I'm doing air quotes on the TV side,

(02:08:56):
should not be some perennial snooze after you get to
the postseason. Oh how are they gonna spectacularly flame out
this year? Nor should it be a team that is
three and six or whatever. They are looking to go
into this week's game against the Texans at home, starting
none other than Cooper Rush. But since it came up,

(02:09:18):
and since bomb the base nine on Twitter is curious,
I'm curious. I was there, Okay, I was in the
press box. It was Michael Connor and me, made the
road trip up to Arlington, got inside plenty of time
before the game started. We all know how it ended,
Tony Romo escaping the clutches of number ninety nine JJ

(02:09:42):
Watt and throwing the game winning touchdown pass. I don't
know if it was as time expired, but it was
certainly not enough time for the Texans to do anything
after that, and the Cowboys got the win. And I
was looking around that whole game, I was hearing it.
But more important, like I said, I was seeing it,
and man, I should have dug this up during the break.

(02:10:03):
I'm pretty sure, I want to say it might be
on my Facebook page that if I dug enough, I
could find a picture of the stadium that I took
that day. And I did this on purpose. I put
a filter on it. There was this app I was
using where it would pick up the colors. Certain colors
you could say, all right, I want to pick up
this color.

Speaker 5 (02:10:21):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
Obviously there was you know, Texans fans that were probably
wearing blue that day, so they blended in with the
Cowboys fans wearing blue. But there's a lot of red
in that stadium, and nowhere in the Cowboys color scheme
as they're red except for yesterday when they had the
helmets for veterans today. But I feel like our military appreciation,
whatever the correct moniker was for the weekend's games, I

(02:10:43):
really do feel like if it wasn't fifty to fifty,
did it was forty percent Texans. I'm not even kidding,
not exaggerating. And I said this to the guy on Twitter,
because what will happen is and this happened, I guarantee
you last night with the Lions Texans game, a lot
of fans for a home game, whatever market it is, Houston, Dallas, wherever,

(02:11:05):
will sell their tickets to people that are coming into
town from the other market.

Speaker 3 (02:11:13):
It's I mean, it's a no brainer.

Speaker 2 (02:11:15):
You have tickets that you can't use for whatever reason,
you don't want to just give them to somebody when
you could make money, and you know that there are
people that are coming into town looking for tickets. They
come to town and yeah, they don't have tickets in hand,
so they're looking for them.

Speaker 3 (02:11:28):
Well, what better way.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Than to find somebody who's a season ticket holder of
the team you're playing. And you know, with the internet,
it's easy these days. There's all sorts of sites that
do that kind of thing. Hello quick assist, and you
find yourself a nice pair of tickets that you didn't
have to necessarily fork over a lot of money for
because it was last second.

Speaker 3 (02:11:47):
That's just the way to gain it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
I guess, way to play the game, I should say, so,
I you know, I don't know if that's a big
part of it. I'm sure there's a lot of people
that drove from Houston to Dallas to watch their Cowboys,
being residents of Houston that are Cowboys fans take on
the Texans in that game.

Speaker 3 (02:12:05):
But I would be shocked, shocked, I tell you, if it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Weren't a similar situation, especially since it's Monday night football.
That was a run of the mill Sunday afternoon game.
I believe it was a noon start there. It was
nothing special about it other than it was Houston in
Dallas the last time around. In Arlington. They've since played here.
I believe in the Texans. I believe won that game.

(02:12:28):
And now and now you got this game in Arlington
on Monday night. And it's just I looked at the
schedule this year and I thought to myself, I said
self late November, there's a chance there's some serious injuries
going into that game, because you know it's NFL football.
And sure enough, it ended up being to the Star.

(02:12:51):
I use that term very loosely. Quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys,
freshly minted with a new contract, Dak Prescott will be
no near the field. Well, I guess he'll be on
the sideline, but nowhere near making any plays on the
field because he's, for all intents and purposes done here
in twenty twenty four. You want to keep CJ. Stroud upright.
To do that, you're going to have to obviously keep

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be on the lookout for Micah Parsons. The two of
them had that exchange in the offseason, so will be
very interesting to see how the two of them handle
that little non spat because apparently they're friendly off the
field during the off season, but when they get together
that is going to be a whole lot of fun seeing.

Speaker 5 (02:13:32):
Who gets the better of who. All Right.

Speaker 2 (02:13:36):
Mentioned there were a lot of things that happened and
kind of a weird week around the NFL this last weekend,
and I would say none more so than the way
too much information story that I came across. And actually
Josh C full disclosure told me about this yesterday afternoon

(02:13:56):
during the Rockets Detroit game that I was working up
here at the station. He goes, Hey, do you hear
about Darren Rizzy? And I was like no, and I
figured it was something. I said, Oh, what was going
on after the game, because he was like super ecstatic
that the Saints won that game. He goes to one
and knows the interim head coach after a Dennis Allen
got whacked, so he didn't expect to win his debut,

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and you may say to yourself, why would he even
admit that, Well, he thought it was going to be
a crappy day. Come on, seriously, like, why would you No,
I'll let him say. This is what Darren Rizzy had
to say about his first game as interim head coach
of the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 5 (02:14:40):
This is how my day started.

Speaker 16 (02:14:41):
I got get down here to the stadium, get down here,
super down my goat, and the head coach's locker room,
which you know I've never used before. So here I
am early the Moore. I go to the bathroom and
this is not my day started. I clogged the toilet
and I'm like, this is going to be a crappy
day pun intended.

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
So I don't know how you do with that guy
a conversation. If somebody starts talking about that subject at
my dinner table, I cut him off immediately. I don't
care who it is. And most of the time it's
not Teresa, and it's not Brooklyn, and it's not me.
So you can do the math. I like, I don't
want to, don't. I don't want to hear about that

(02:15:18):
while I'm eating Any other time of the day, it's
fine This is a lot of information though, Like I
get that you had that kind of start to your
day whatever, but I mean, I don't know if I
needed to hear that, not like of all things, like
Darren Rizzy, it's his first game. He could have talked

(02:15:41):
about any number of things. As you know, they got
the win over the Falcons, and I didn't see that coming.
I mean, it's the division matchup, but I mean, come on,
the Saints have been abysmal and that's why Rizzy has
the job right now. But I just don't know if
I want to hear a fourteen year NFL special teams
coordinator now turned interim coach tell everybody that he clogged

(02:16:06):
up the toilet before the game even started, and so
he figured it was an omen It was a sign
that he wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna win his debut game.
So of course now the joke is he must clog
the toilet prior to every single game. I don't know
if I'm gonna go that far, but it's weird, man.
It is interesting that I think some of the the

(02:16:28):
head coaches in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:16:29):
That are still hanging around.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
I mean, I keep going back to Mike McCarthy, he's
the lamest of lame ducks. Now you have Micah Parsons
with whether they're whether the comments were intended as a
lot of people took them and ran with them, or
whether you know, it's a little bit of a.

Speaker 3 (02:16:46):
You know, play up on his words.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
And you know there's I've heard from certain people that
Jerry Jones doesn't necessarily prefer firing a coach in season
because if he's a lame, lame duck coach, and he's
probably not coming back unless they win the Super Bowl,
which I think was probably the bar if you think
about it. I mean, they haven't been to a conference
championship game and how long. And you're talking about Jerry Jones,

(02:17:14):
the owner of the three time in a row or
not in a row, two out of four Super Bowl
champion Dallas Cowboys from the mid nineties, and what have
they accomplished since then?

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
And a lot of people blame you for that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:27):
So, unless you want Mike McCarthy to be your next scapegoat,
it's win the Super Bowl this year after last season's
disappointing latest disappointing playoff, flame out or else, and they're
not going to do it this year, and so Mike
McCarthy sooner rather than later, the chopping block. But I'm
actually surprised it hasn't come sooner, and I kind of agree.

(02:17:49):
I feel like that's maybe what happens, Like you can't
avoid it if the Texans.

Speaker 3 (02:17:54):
Are able to go in there on Monday night.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
Believe it or not, It's not the only toilet humor
we've got in a fell related I'll explain when we
come back.

Speaker 9 (02:18:04):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:18:08):
We now return to Adam Clinton and Adam wexlerd on
Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
Ninety a team Sports Talk seven ninety Space City Home
Network AC with you until six o'clock. Wex on his
way over to Toyota Center Washington Wizards in town. So
back to back situation, so it'll be interesting to see
the dead leg effect. I do know that there will

(02:18:36):
be no Fred Van Vliet tonight for the Rockets at
the point card position, and Steven Adams is going to
be questionable, like going into every game.

Speaker 5 (02:18:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
That's that's basically what we're at now. I'm a little
little Rockets tidbit coming up. I think, in case you
missed it, that we want to get to but real quickly,
back to the Texans from last night. A couple of
things we need to dive into in this. First one
is really really important. I don't want anyone going around

(02:19:05):
town thinking they saw something they didn't. There's nothing worse
than false advertising. There's nothing worse than being duped and
thinking you saw something you didn't and just going around
your merry way thinking that you know something you don't.
And I'm not gonna stand for it, even if it's

(02:19:26):
a Detroit Lions player, especially with the last name of Houston.
So in case you guys don't know what I'm getting at,
how should I put this eloquently? Last night, Lions linebacker
James Houston, he as this article describes, it, went viral
for all the wrong reasons. I'm sure this has happened before.

(02:19:52):
Matter of fact, there's a better than average chance. The
story about Paul Pierce during the NBA Finals with the
whole wheelchair thing is absolutely true.

Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
Let's put it this way. It's very plausible.

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
As the story goes, Paul Pierce was remember when he
was helped off the floor during the finals with a
wheelchair and you're like, oh, man, wheelchair, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:20:19):
That's not good. That's not me good at all. But
think about it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:21):
How many times do they bring a wheelchair out for
an injured player in any athletic contest? Like if a
guy puts his leg on backwards in an NFL game,
they bring the cart out. If something happens in an
NBA game, I've seen it a million times. It's a cart.
I've never seen anybody.

Speaker 5 (02:20:39):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
Who was the picture of the few years back? Jacob
de Rizzy goes down on the mound. It looks horrible,
ended up being basically a sprain ankle. They didn't bring
a wheelchair out there for him. They carted him off
the field. And yet here's Paul Piers in a wheelchair
and they're wheeling him.

Speaker 3 (02:20:57):
Back to the locker room. What's that about.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
Well, as the story goes, he had well not made
it to the bathroom in time, and he didn't want
anybody to see that stain on his very white Celtics
home jersey. What's the best way to do that? Put
him in a wheelchair. And that's what the rumor is.
I don't know if they can confirm or deny it.

(02:21:19):
I think it might have been a clip where he
actually talks about that that's out there.

Speaker 15 (02:21:23):
But that was Lamar Jackson last year too, or a
couple of years ago. Remember on Monday Night football, where
people were like, oh, I know what that look is.
He was like, no, I did not pull up Paul Pierce.
See it's an a lexicon. So fast forward to last night,
James Houston. He looked like he had had the same situation.

(02:21:44):
You gotta remember Texans wearing all red clearly Lions had
the blue tops and the very white pants. So he
was chasing down I can't remember. It might have been
Joe Mixon, but there's a freeze and it looks like,
you know, you know, there was a stain right there,

(02:22:08):
and he's just not gonna have it. He went to
X at Jay Houston Underscore four and he says, hey, y'all,
I had sat on some gatorade, just chill, and then
it was a it's a laughing cat emoji and.

Speaker 3 (02:22:24):
A poop emoji.

Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
So I'm not even going to go into some of
the responses that he got, but if you look at
the picture in question, some of the people that I
could see it presumably being you know, lemon lime, gatorade.

Speaker 5 (02:22:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:22:42):
I'm not gonna go too far into it, but he's
doing his.

Speaker 3 (02:22:46):
Best and at least that's plausible.

Speaker 5 (02:22:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
I just I can't believe that actually doesn't happen more.
But I again, I don't want to dwell too much
on it. I do want to talk about what happened
last night, unfortunately as.

Speaker 3 (02:23:00):
It was, and uh CJ.

Speaker 2 (02:23:02):
Stroud probably getting more criticism then I think I've seen
him get in his entire very brief still tenure as
a Texans quarterback. And look, he was very forthcoming, talked
about it in the postgame presser and said, look, a
lot of this is on me.

Speaker 3 (02:23:20):
I didn't help my team win.

Speaker 11 (02:23:22):
I feel like this game was on me. You know,
definitely got to make plays, got to make throws, can't
turn the ball over and when we're in scoring position.
So as a I blame this on me. You know,
I got to be better in this in those moments.
So yeah, it's really just got to go down to
score in the red zone and defense is turned getting
the turnovers like they were, so got to be able

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to you know, reward them with points and you know,
something we didn't do. So you know, I feel like
I'm the one to blame.

Speaker 2 (02:23:49):
Yeah, so look a lot of he's he is. Uh,
he's going to be as accountable as it gets. It's
not an easy topic to talk about. Uh, after you
lose a game like that, it's not easy to get
up in front of everybody at the podium and a
lot of guys just don't want to. But as the
quarterback of the Texans, when you lose a game like that,
when you threw two interceptions, that's the thing we got

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spoiled last year. CJ doesn't throw picks. He just doesn't.
And wex mentioned it last hour. He's already thrown one
more interception than he did in his entire fifteen game
campaign as a rookie.

Speaker 3 (02:24:23):
He didn't obviously he missed two of those games. That's
a big deal.

Speaker 2 (02:24:27):
That's a situation where you know, if you're looking to
be one of the elite quarterbacks, you absolutely have to
take care of the football, and especially in the end
zone when it's a situation where you've got a wide
open tank Dell and he kind of loft it out
there and instead of zipping the ball to a wide
open receiver. That was very uncharacteristic as was the one

(02:24:50):
he threw to the left side. It's just he doesn't
make those throws, That's what he's talking about a little bit.
And I think the fact that it came in light
of the offensive line basically playing as well as it
had in about a month, which Jamiko Ryans is going
to point out here, it kind of puts even more
of magnifying glass on CJ. Stroud and just on the

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offense in general, because Demiko pretty much overall was happy
with the old line.

Speaker 5 (02:25:18):
I think our guys protected Will.

Speaker 8 (02:25:20):
We had Patterson and that Sarah moud juice over the
gar the communication as well. Up front. I thought the
guys protected Will enough for us to make some plays.
So I think that the move was good there.

Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
Yeah, I mean it's not perfect, and it's not gonna
be until you get like an elite offensive line put
in place. But you know, if you're the Texans and
you're dealing with what you've dealt with over the past
better part of a month, which happened to coincide with,
you know, an injury to an offensive lineman. But yet
that offensive lineman was also the one that was criticized

(02:25:54):
by far more than anyone else, and rightfully. So I
might add, and you've lost to Fon Diggs and been
playing without Nico Collins, and you know, the hits just
keep on coming. You had to deal with not having
Joe Mixon during that time. You get a game where,
especially against the Lions, that offensive line is functioning as

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well as it as could be expected for you know,
the first time in over a month, playing that well,
getting you some time to throw the ball. It's going
to be the perfect combination of more of a magnifying
glass on CJ.

Speaker 3 (02:26:28):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (02:26:28):
One other thing that Demiko Ryans had to say was
talking about those interceptions he had to last night. That's
his uncharacteristic because it gets frankly, if he has one
interception in the game, that's uncharacteristic. So Demiko Ryan's talking
about his quarterback having to be better with football.

Speaker 8 (02:26:45):
He's not good enough turning the football over there, especially
in red zone or coming out. You know, we talk
about getting started in the second half, and we talked
about being better in the second half, but to come
out and turn the ball over the first play the
second half and to get in the red zone we
have points and to turn the ball over as not
winning football.

Speaker 3 (02:27:05):
No, it's not. It's absolutely excruciating too.

Speaker 2 (02:27:07):
When you think about the fact that you're talking about
six points there versus giving the ball back to the
Lions as you're trying to keep them from coming back
in a game like that, all these little things added up,
it's actually impressive in the worst way. How the Texans
were able to choke away That's what they did. They
choked away a sixteen point halftime lead, choked away a

(02:27:29):
game in which part of the reason you led, and
you should have led by more, frankly, was that they
gave you the ball five times, Jared Goff throwing five
picks and I realized one of them was at the
end of the half, So you're not gonna be able
to score with that.

Speaker 3 (02:27:45):
But okay, four picks and you don't win that football game.

Speaker 2 (02:27:50):
Just a really, really rough night at the office for
a Texans team that was smarting after that loss in
a long week, after the game against the Jets on
the and now you go into a situation where if
you don't beat a Cowboys team that, frankly you should
with everything going against them, but it's still on the road,

(02:28:11):
it's still in their house, where you just don't play
as well away from NRG Stadium.

Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
Even if you're CJ. Stroud, it's gonna be.

Speaker 15 (02:28:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:28:21):
You talk about two.

Speaker 2 (02:28:22):
Teams that really really need a win in the worst
way for very different reasons. So it's gonna come down
to do the Texans basically in all likelihood, I guess
maybe we hope for just entertainment purposes, finally get Mike
McCarthy whacked before the end of the year, like we're
just Jerry says, all right, screw this, I've got to

(02:28:43):
do something. I gotta take all some of the heat
off of me as the owner or the Texans right
the ship, they get to their seventh win, looking at
maybe wins number eight and nine consecutively after that, going
into a huge matchup with the Dolphins, it's going to
be electric, electric as it can be with a Cooper
Rush started quarterbacking game coming up on Monday.

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All Right, that music means it's time for another dose
of In case you missed it, and honestly, I need
to bogart the start of this segment bull guard away.
This story dropped at or about the second hour of
the show today. I don't know if this particular account

(02:29:51):
posted it much later than when we all got wind
of it. I'm guessing Dan's probably seen this, and maybe
a lot of you have. This is basically the most
nightmare scenario I can think of. I'm gonna read aloud.
Spirit Airlines flight from Fort Lauderdale to Haiti, hit by

(02:30:16):
gunfire on approach and diverted to the Dominican Republic. What
you're doing flying to Haiti right now? That's your business.
What you are doing flying to Haiti on a Spirit
Airlines plane and then getting hit by gunfire to where

(02:30:38):
the Dominican is the better option to land said Spirit
Airlines plane? Again, I have no idea that's dangerous, you know.
I honeymoon in the Dominican I've heard great things.

Speaker 3 (02:30:52):
I love it. I love it. I would not have
wanted to be there during a hurricane.

Speaker 2 (02:30:57):
When you're on a little speck in the middle of
the that part of the world's ocean and a giant
hurricanes blowing through, it doesn't strike me as the type
of place where you can really take a whole heck
of a lot of shelter.

Speaker 15 (02:31:11):
Well, it's like I saw a video the other day
of a cruise ship in the middle of the Atlantic
and it tilted forty five degrees.

Speaker 3 (02:31:18):
Oh, I saw that.

Speaker 15 (02:31:18):
In My response was when somebody asked me if I
want to go on a cruise, I'll just show them
that video and say no, I'm good on land.

Speaker 2 (02:31:25):
Pro tip if you ever go on a cruise, just
take an Eastern Mediterranean one like I did.

Speaker 5 (02:31:30):
That actually sounds pretty nice.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
It's it's great, you got you doc in Rome. Okay,
you hit up. I believe Sicily, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (02:31:41):
Let's go then and again, I'm doing geography on the
fly in my head Athens, Greece. Oh, I'm definitely in
somewhere else in Greece too. Wherever the where's the where's
the Parthenon at?

Speaker 4 (02:31:56):
Or?

Speaker 3 (02:31:56):
Is that in Turkey?

Speaker 2 (02:31:58):
No, it's in Greece, because you go to Turkey too,
of course the Parthenons in Greece, duh, Like thessalonikis or something.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
Or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:32:04):
Something biblical, Biblical things happened all over the place.

Speaker 3 (02:32:07):
I was walking around.

Speaker 2 (02:32:08):
It's Mikonos popular one there well, and then you go
to the Virgin Mary's House is on this this cruise.

Speaker 5 (02:32:17):
Oh so you get religion too.

Speaker 3 (02:32:18):
I like it, you get you get it all.

Speaker 2 (02:32:19):
And then yeah, you hit up Turkey and if you
happen to encounter a guy selling you rugs, he will
still contact you to this day. And I went on
that cruise in twenty twelve. And no, I'm not making
this up. He just called me last week. He has
like five burner phones and he keeps trying to sell
me rugs that me and my ex wife bought. Okay,
I don't want your rugs. It reminds me of the things.

(02:32:39):
Yeah so, but but great cruise. I don't think you're
gonna tilt forty five degrees in the middle of the Mediterranean.

Speaker 9 (02:32:49):
See that's the thing.

Speaker 15 (02:32:49):
I mean, like you said about an island or like
in the middle of the water, there is no escape.
You're not going anywhere, like there is no going inland.

Speaker 3 (02:32:57):
Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
And that also concludes your Spirit Airlines to Haiti update.

Speaker 3 (02:33:02):
Fair enough, All right, in case you missed it, go.

Speaker 15 (02:33:04):
All right, So you in WEX actually talked about this
a little bit earlier Bill Simmons, who I think we
can agree. We're not the largest fans of Bill Simmons,
can't stand the guy, but he is relevant in this
case because he was talking about the chances that Johannis
gets traded away from the Milwaukee Bucks, and he brought
up the scenario where the Rockets actually would be a

(02:33:27):
really good suitor for him.

Speaker 17 (02:33:28):
To me, it's either Brooklyn or Houston, because Houston's the
other team that could they have picks and young players.

Speaker 5 (02:33:34):
It's just like, if.

Speaker 17 (02:33:35):
I'm Yannis, would I rather go to Brooklyn or Houston?
I don't know, Like Houston's minus Houston's minus one twenty
eight Houston.

Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
Has Houston made that trade.

Speaker 17 (02:33:47):
They have Brooklyn's twenty twenty six first, they can swap
Brooklyn in twenty seven. They have a Phoenix versus twenty seven.
They own all their own pigs. They have a Phoenix
or Dallas first to one nine, like they have enough
to put a Giannis thing together with some on tracks.
Give them a young player. The problem is they gave
extensions to Green and Shangoun, so I don't think those
guys can be in the trade, but they could patch

(02:34:10):
up together. But I think those are the two teams.
I think that I don't think Miami has enough.

Speaker 15 (02:34:16):
So I love that, like how he kind of hedged
at the beginning right there, and then he talked himself
into it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:21):
Well, I've been saying this and some would say there's
a member of the Rockets organization that is kind of
like a running gag I have, and he's not. He's
not someone that could make personnel moves.

Speaker 3 (02:34:33):
Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
This is just somebody I know that I'm friendly with
that whenever the topic comes up.

Speaker 3 (02:34:39):
And I said this to him at media Day.

Speaker 2 (02:34:41):
I was like, just be on the lookout for certain people,
and I gave him a list of guys in the
NBA that I felt like could have a very good
chance of being on the move. Then I'll be honest,
and I've said on this show, so it's not like
I'm hiding anything. Devin Booker was at the top of
that list. But I was assuming that p would kind of,
you know, do what they've always done since that kind

(02:35:03):
of current era of Phoenix Suns basketball began, which is
just completely underachieve get decimated by injuries, which okay, Katie
just went down but they're like eight and one or whatever.
They roared out of the gates. The other hand, Milwaukee
is awful, I mean just brutal. And it's like, so,
you're gonna tell me Chris Middleton's gonna come back and

(02:35:25):
it's all gonna be better. No, And when things go south,
and especially when they go south quickly, you.

Speaker 3 (02:35:31):
Got a superstar.

Speaker 2 (02:35:33):
You got a top five, top ten type player like Giannis,
still in his prime.

Speaker 3 (02:35:37):
He's not thirty four, he's thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
He's got some good years left even though he's a
very old thirty. He's been playing in the league. This
is year twelve, I believe, or thirteen if he wants
out of there. And I saw these odds, and I
think the Rockets were like third on the list with
Miami and what.

Speaker 3 (02:35:56):
Was the other Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (02:35:58):
But Brooklyn in Miami are not going to be able
to put the type of package together as you just
heard Bill Simmons say that a Houston would. And I
don't know exactly the rules off the top of my
head about trading guys that have just been signed. I
think you have to wait until December maybe to sign
those or to trade those players in any sort of deal.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
But if things keep going the way they're going, it's November.

Speaker 2 (02:36:19):
Eleventh, if the Bucks aren't back to five hundred by
the end of the month, which that's kind of still
a long shot even even this early on. I mean,
you think that Giannis is just gonna hang around there?
No way, Damian Lillard's passed his prime. He's gonna get
his money either way. But I just I would keep

(02:36:42):
an eye out on that because I don't think there's
a better package that can be put together by another
team out there that could trump a Houston Rockets package
for a guy like Jiannis and oh, by the way,
Jannis defensive specialist. You don't think emy Udoka would love
to have Giannis here in Houston. Again, this is all
specula I have not heard anything. Do not quote me

(02:37:03):
like I said, it's happening, but I am trying to
manifest it.

Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
I am just saying that.

Speaker 15 (02:37:07):
Dan all right, real quick here before we get out
sports betting age with their who is the future full
time next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A lot
of people would think Bill Belichick is the favorite. He
is not. He is third in front of him at
number two. Ben Johnson at three hundred plus three hundred
is Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 3 (02:37:28):
Mike Vrabel in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (02:37:32):
Hmmm, that for sure you were gonna say Dion Sanders
since that's the name being flipped out there.

Speaker 15 (02:37:38):
Journolyst Behind Flores and also Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 3 (02:37:42):
Brian Flores, Yes, and Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 8 (02:37:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:37:45):
So Lane Kiffin would have to leave Ole, miss to
go to a place like Dallas. I say that because.

Speaker 3 (02:37:50):
It's not that place anymore. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:37:53):
What's important here is that the Dallas Cowboys and even
more importantly, their fans are suffering right now.

Speaker 3 (02:37:59):
And we love that here in Houston.

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Back to Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:39:04):
All right, final segment of a Monday edition of the
A Team Sports Talk seven ninety. Wex over at Toyota Center,
either walking in or close to it at this point,
he's inside. You know how I know he's inside because
he sent me another text message with a picture of
my face on a TV screen in media dining or
the media workroom.

Speaker 3 (02:39:26):
He said the volume was on very low.

Speaker 2 (02:39:28):
So what I'm hoping is that the Spirit Airlines Haiti
flight that landed and got shot at was what everybody
was hearing me talk about, because you know, that's what
all sports fans want to get an update on what
Spirit Airlines flight got bullet riddled holes in it on
its way into Haiti and then had to get had

(02:39:50):
to get diverted to.

Speaker 3 (02:39:50):
The Dominican unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:39:53):
Okay, So this was highlighted from yesterday from yesterday's NFL
games and it's once again like forget about the result,
because this was the Chiefs Broncos game, and again the
Chiefs are nine to zero. And I know better than
anyone how their fans feel about this season. I've got

(02:40:16):
family that's like my immediate my wife's entire family still
lives in the Kansas City area. I've got a mother
in law who is a diehard Chiefs and Royals fan.
I've said this many times, many times.

Speaker 5 (02:40:28):
On the show.

Speaker 2 (02:40:30):
And they know what we know, which is that this
team is just they're just finding ways to win.

Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
They're not dominating.

Speaker 2 (02:40:39):
There's not I don't think there's necessarily even the same
fear factor when you face off against the Chiefs as
there has been in prior seasons.

Speaker 3 (02:40:48):
Maybe I'm in the minority, I mean, don't.

Speaker 2 (02:40:50):
I'm looking at the Texans going up there and saying
to myself, all right, if both teams play their best game,
their best versions of themselves here in twenty twenty four,
or Texans should absolutely be competitive in that game. Now,
they'll probably find a way to lose it, especially if
they get a big lead, because that's what they do
these days. They like to kick us in the crotch
see last night. But this is not the Chiefs like

(02:41:15):
death lineup from you know, two years ago, or even
when Mahomes really first burst onto the scenes and they
won that first championship, and he's just insane.

Speaker 3 (02:41:22):
It's like a video game. Far from it. All of
this is.

Speaker 2 (02:41:26):
To say, yesterday's blocked field goal attempt of the Broncos
to seal the nine to zero record was just the
latest example of why Kevin Harland is, pound for pound,
the best play by play guy in the games, whether
it's football, whether it's NBA basketball. I wish he did baseball.

(02:41:48):
I don't think he does. I'm not aware of it
if he does. But you can't tell me that you
wouldn't like Kevin Harlan playing calling an astro's playoff game,
you know, one in which they're competitive, not this last
wild card hiccup against the Tigers. In case you missed it,
which I don't think you have. This is what it
sounded like.

Speaker 11 (02:42:13):
Sexy C.

Speaker 9 (02:42:16):
TUXI C.

Speaker 2 (02:42:26):
Kevin Harlan, And again you should know, I do actually
believe is he Is he the guy that lives in
Kansas City or is it Green Bay?

Speaker 15 (02:42:35):
I think he has ties to both organizations both. Yeah,
I think because I actually got to know his daughter
Olivia when she was at UGA before Sam Decker, before
Sam Decker. Correct, when she was just Olivia Harland, and
I want to say that she said she was from
Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (02:42:50):
Yeah, that's what I thought. So, yeah, he's got a
vested interest. But come on, man, like that guy is
the best. There's just like you forget too how many
times and look, there's all these guys that have big names,
have had their big calls. You know, Jim Nantz is

(02:43:11):
the guy at CBS, and Jim Nantz is a friend
of the station. He's obviously been on the Matt Thomas
Show very you know many times I've met Jim.

Speaker 3 (02:43:19):
He's very, very nice guy and he does a fine job.

Speaker 5 (02:43:21):
And a great memory too.

Speaker 2 (02:43:23):
Yeah, like an elephant, but like he's just Kevin Harlan
is on another level. It's the voice, it's the delivery.
Jim Nantz is the conversational type. Kevin Harlan. It's like
when we would talk to Paul Allen in Minnesota, who
I say has the most violent call on all sports,

(02:43:43):
and he remembered me from the last time I said
that to him because I interviewed him another time and
I said that, and I stuck with him. That's kind
of Kevin Harlan. It's like a refined violence, Kevin Harlan calling.
I mean, you forget Kevin Harlan called the Tracy McGrady
dunk over Sean Bradley way back in two thousand and five.
He just sucked the gravity right out of the building.

Speaker 5 (02:44:02):
Who comes up with that on the fly?

Speaker 2 (02:44:04):
He didn't write that DOWNE McGrady has just sucked the
gravity right out of the building. A. It's a great line. B.
It works even better because he was on the road.
They were in Dallas. That's just an epic line.

Speaker 15 (02:44:20):
He just seems to always read the room. I mean,
he knows when it's time to raise the intensity. But
also too, I mean he just kind of meets the moment.

Speaker 3 (02:44:28):
Big rooms.

Speaker 2 (02:44:30):
That's a big room he was in yesterday and he
is I mean, the delivery, the cadence and oh, by
the way, even if you were just to relegate this.

Speaker 3 (02:44:40):
To non sports, I e.

Speaker 2 (02:44:43):
His multiple drunk guy running on the field play by
play calls, because he has more than one. He's just
I don't know, man, I think Kevin Harlan's an American treasure,
and I really think that we should start appreciating him
more because before you know it, he'll be gone and
we'll be talking about him the way I talk about
Marv Albert. It's the whole generation of kids that like,

(02:45:06):
Dylan's in there with you, right, Dylan's visiting us today.
He's a junior at U of H, and I guarantee
you Dylan's got to be what twenty twenty one in
that range. This all he knows is Mike Breen calling
NBA games on ABC and ESPN. I have never felt
more sorry for a kid in my entire life. Bang Bang,

(02:45:29):
who cares bank? That's the worst call ever. And yet
the guy who preceded him, the NBA guy on National
calls Marv Albert just the same. It was a simple word, right,
But I'll take just over Bang anytime, and twice on
Sundays when Jordan's playing in the finals or the Rockets

(02:45:50):
for that matter. Now, how happy I am that his
unfortunate incident with the woman in the hotel room happened
after the Rockets won their back to back championships, Because
I didn't need Bob costas and his pink eye calling
back to back championships for the Rockets. That would have
been horrifying. How horrible is it? How much were we

(02:46:10):
robbed of an iconic call that you know would have
come because Michael Jordan's last shot against Utah, his real
last shot, not any of the Wizard's ones, his last
shot where he takes Brian Russell and shoves him aside.
It was great and he hits that shot and we
had to hear Bob Costas call it.

Speaker 3 (02:46:29):
You know how much better that would have been if
it were Marv Albert?

Speaker 2 (02:46:32):
Yes, the balls with the I don't even I can't
do a Marv Albert, but I'm just saying it would
have been absolutely spectacular and way better than Bob Costas.
And now Bob Costas has retired himself from baseball calls,
so at least we have that going for us. Anyway,
Kevin Harlan's goat, that's the point of all that, and
he proved it again yesterday. We have got some goat
material coming up because the Rockets are gonna go for

(02:46:54):
two in a row. They got the win in spectacular fashion,
albeit convoluted, yesterday in Detroit. Jalen Green. He caught a
body yesterday and he'll look to do that again tonight.
Washington Wizards on tap. We've got the Rockets launch pad,
and then we've got the network call with Matt and
Wex from over at Toyota Center. We will be back

(02:47:15):
in here again tomorrow afternoon, two o'clock talk all things Houston,
sports and so much more. Appreciate you guys listening for Wex,
for Dan, for Dylan.

Speaker 3 (02:47:25):
I may see.

Speaker 2 (02:47:25):
It is the A team here on Sports Talk seven
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