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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There are two sides to every story and one side
to facts.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is the Brian Mud Show.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, we are sixteen days away from election day, an
election season actually sets to get underway with North Carolina
important swings day that is on schedule right now to
start sending out vote by mail ballots after noon. That
noon deadline right now is the result of the RFK
Junior challenge trying to get off of ballots that was
(00:29):
declined yesterday, but the judge allowed twenty four hours for appeal,
which is why it's noon. So anyway, it all starts
to get interesting fast here and our White House correspondent
John Decker joining us now.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Happy Friday, John.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Happy Friday. And that's where former President Donald Trump will
be today. He will be in Charlotte, North Carolina, Mikah Witcidence.
He's talking to the leadership of the Paternal Order of Police.
And tomorrow, if he did not know his schedule, will
be in Wiscon and doing lightly Brian his final campaign
rally before getting ready for that debate next Tuesday night
(01:06):
at Phila Helphia.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, that is super important.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And you know we talked about, you know, Trump and
North Carolina, the vote by mail ballots that are set
to go out the election season, effectively sixty days of
voting taking place across the country, and on the mark
changes with the former president his stance on it. Of course,
in the prior to cycles, he had really push in
person election day voting, and starting in June, came out
(01:32):
with what he called swamp the votes, encouraging his supporters
to get out there and vote early. However, you know,
vote by mail, vote early. And then he did himself
for the first time. He and the former first Lady
in Florida's August primers got out there and early voted.
Do you see this as something that his supporters will
take advantage of with his policies shift.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well, they should, you know. I mean, you've had essentially
four years to prepare for some changes that may have
happened over the course of the past four years since
the last presidential election. I think I'll listen to someone
that they trust in terms of voting early, if that
is the way they wish to vote. That is not
(02:17):
the way a large percentage of Trump flord has choose
to vote. They vote in person generally, but as you know,
Florida is one of those places in which a significant
percentage of voters take advantage of early.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Voting, no doubt, John.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, really, if you take a look at the
twenty twenty two midterms and how Florida was such an outlier,
a record Republican cycle compared to a lot of disappointments
for Republicans outside of the state, two to one, Republicans
outvoted Democrats. Democrats used to lead in Florida, and early
voting Republicans outvoted Democrats early two to one and obviously
(02:53):
got the attention of the former president as we head
into this all right, So you talked about the debate
coming up on Tuesday, is what is the landscape you're
heading into this debate.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, the landscape is one in which for the Vice
President Kamala Harris, she needs to meet a test, a threshold,
you know, in terms of going toe to toe with
Donald Trump. That is a lot of pressure on her.
As for the former president, you know, Republicans will say
they have issues on their side, So for him, it's
(03:27):
a matter of really being disciplined and talking about those
issues related to jobs and the economy, border security, talking
about the Biden record. If Donald Trump can be disciplined
in that regard, then I think that he would have
a good night. That is the big unknown, you know
(03:47):
about whether or not for ninety minutes he can focus
solely on those particular issues.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You Now, you bring out an interesting point.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He does have the ability to be restrained when he
wants to be, and to be on message if he
chooses to be that type of thing. You take a
look at the debate with President Biden, and I think
by any objective you review, you would see where he
really rained in what he was probably thinking throughout the
(04:15):
course of that debate and allowed you know, the president
to pretty much do himself. In the way you framed this,
I find to be interesting because you know, sometimes you'll
take a look at polls, you'll take a look at,
you know, what perceived momentum is, and one candidate or
another may need to put some points on the board.
Seems as though perhaps you're thinking that the vice president
(04:36):
is the person who has something to prove here.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I do believe that. I believe that more pressure is
on her than on former President Trump. You know, he
has already gone through this process back on June the
twenty seventh with Joe Biden, and he's done it for
at this level. The vice president as not at this level.
She four years ago she went toe to toe with Mike.
(05:00):
But that is so different from all the attention that
will be focused on this debate in Philadelphia. I'll be there, Brian,
and I am so looking forward to what I think
is going to be perhaps the highest rated debate in
American history.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow, that is that is a strong call, no doubt,
it's going to be way up there, the highest ever.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, wait to see how that'll comes out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And you know, John kind of on the point about
you know, the the vice president, this debate, what has
to happen here. You take a look at the polls
right now, and the former president running just over five
points on average ahead of where he was four years
ago when he lost. He's running on average just over
two points ahead of where he was when he narrowly
(05:44):
won in twenty sixteen. So, you know, do you think
the campaigns take a look at that, the candidates take
a look at that and in factor that in or
do they take a lot of the point that's out
there these days in face value, which would seem to
suggest that that, you know, maybe Harris has the advantage
here no, they look at it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They look at it in the same way you described it.
You know, pulling polsters will tell you has improved in
terms of their accuracy since the twenty sixteen election cycle.
That being said, you know, that's what we go on.
And you know, if you compare where Donald Trump was
in twenty sixteen where he was in twenty twenty, he's
ahead of those standards. And so that all being said,
(06:25):
you know, you do pay attention to the fact that
it's a different dynamic. Now, it's a different dynamic since
Kamala Harris got into the race back in mid July. Surprising.
I think that the Trump campaign, in terms of the
timing of it, maybe not the actual action of it.
And you have to prepare for that new dynamic and
(06:48):
what that means in terms of the states that are
in play. You see a visit today to North Carolina.
I don't think that kind of visit would have happened,
you know if Joe Biden remained on the ticket. You know,
talking to the Trump campaign, they thought that one was
essentially in the bag and they could ignore North Carolina.
Now you see a few visits that they're making to
(07:09):
that particular swing state, boy.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
John, you bring up an interesting point. There are a
couple that way that tell you that the campaigns on
both sides are nervous. You had Kamala Harris go to
New Hampshire and now you have Trump going to North Carolina.
And to your point, I think that's a real tell here.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well it is, you know, and you may scratch your
head whine new Hampshire. I certainly did, and I think
maybe it had to do with the fact that there
were some that were disappointed, missed, angered, whatever word you
want to use. That Democrats changed the first in the
nation primary from New Hampshire to South Carolina and this
was a way to potentially mend some fences. I don't
(07:49):
know what I said. That's where she made that a
dress Regarding economic issues for small business earlier this week
Speaker 2 (07:57):
John appreciated as always
There are two sides to every story and one side
to facts.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is the Brian Mud Show.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, we are sixteen days away from election day, an
election season actually sets to get underway with North Carolina
important swings day that is on schedule right now to
start sending out vote by mail ballots after noon. That
noon deadline right now is the result of the RFK
Junior challenge trying to get off of ballots that was
(00:29):
declined yesterday, but the judge allowed twenty four hours for appeal,
which is why it's noon. So anyway, it all starts
to get interesting fast here and our White House correspondent
John Decker joining us now.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Happy Friday, John.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Happy Friday. And that's where former President Donald Trump will
be today. He will be in Charlotte, North Carolina, Mikah Witcidence.
He's talking to the leadership of the Paternal Order of Police.
And tomorrow, if he did not know his schedule, will
be in Wiscon and doing lightly Brian his final campaign
rally before getting ready for that debate next Tuesday night
(01:06):
at Phila Helphia.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, that is super important.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And you know we talked about, you know, Trump and
North Carolina, the vote by mail ballots that are set
to go out the election season, effectively sixty days of
voting taking place across the country, and on the mark
changes with the former president his stance on it. Of course,
in the prior to cycles, he had really push in
person election day voting, and starting in June, came out
(01:32):
with what he called swamp the votes, encouraging his supporters
to get out there and vote early. However, you know,
vote by mail, vote early. And then he did himself
for the first time. He and the former first Lady
in Florida's August primers got out there and early voted.
Do you see this as something that his supporters will
take advantage of with his policies shift.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well, they should, you know. I mean, you've had essentially
four years to prepare for some changes that may have
happened over the course of the past four years since
the last presidential election. I think I'll listen to someone
that they trust in terms of voting early, if that
is the way they wish to vote. That is not
(02:17):
the way a large percentage of Trump flord has choose
to vote. They vote in person generally, but as you know,
Florida is one of those places in which a significant
percentage of voters take advantage of early.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Voting, no doubt, John.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, really, if you take a look at the
twenty twenty two midterms and how Florida was such an outlier,
a record Republican cycle compared to a lot of disappointments
for Republicans outside of the state, two to one, Republicans
outvoted Democrats. Democrats used to lead in Florida, and early
voting Republicans outvoted Democrats early two to one and obviously
(02:53):
got the attention of the former president as we head
into this all right, So you talked about the debate
coming up on Tuesday, is what is the landscape you're
heading into this debate.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, the landscape is one in which for the Vice
President Kamala Harris, she needs to meet a test, a threshold,
you know, in terms of going toe to toe with
Donald Trump. That is a lot of pressure on her.
As for the former president, you know, Republicans will say
they have issues on their side, So for him, it's
(03:27):
a matter of really being disciplined and talking about those
issues related to jobs and the economy, border security, talking
about the Biden record. If Donald Trump can be disciplined
in that regard, then I think that he would have
a good night. That is the big unknown, you know
(03:47):
about whether or not for ninety minutes he can focus
solely on those particular issues.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You Now, you bring out an interesting point.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He does have the ability to be restrained when he
wants to be, and to be on message if he
chooses to be that type of thing. You take a
look at the debate with President Biden, and I think
by any objective you review, you would see where he
really rained in what he was probably thinking throughout the
(04:15):
course of that debate and allowed you know, the president
to pretty much do himself. In the way you framed this,
I find to be interesting because you know, sometimes you'll
take a look at polls, you'll take a look at,
you know, what perceived momentum is, and one candidate or
another may need to put some points on the board.
Seems as though perhaps you're thinking that the vice president
(04:36):
is the person who has something to prove here.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I do believe that. I believe that more pressure is
on her than on former President Trump. You know, he
has already gone through this process back on June the
twenty seventh with Joe Biden, and he's done it for
at this level. The vice president as not at this level.
She four years ago she went toe to toe with Mike.
(05:00):
But that is so different from all the attention that
will be focused on this debate in Philadelphia. I'll be there, Brian,
and I am so looking forward to what I think
is going to be perhaps the highest rated debate in
American history.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow, that is that is a strong call, no doubt,
it's going to be way up there, the highest ever.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, wait to see how that'll comes out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And you know, John kind of on the point about
you know, the the vice president, this debate, what has
to happen here. You take a look at the polls
right now, and the former president running just over five
points on average ahead of where he was four years
ago when he lost. He's running on average just over
two points ahead of where he was when he narrowly
(05:44):
won in twenty sixteen. So, you know, do you think
the campaigns take a look at that, the candidates take
a look at that and in factor that in or
do they take a lot of the point that's out
there these days in face value, which would seem to
suggest that that, you know, maybe Harris has the advantage
here no, they look at it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They look at it in the same way you described it.
You know, pulling polsters will tell you has improved in
terms of their accuracy since the twenty sixteen election cycle.
That being said, you know, that's what we go on.
And you know, if you compare where Donald Trump was
in twenty sixteen where he was in twenty twenty, he's
ahead of those standards. And so that all being said,
(06:25):
you know, you do pay attention to the fact that
it's a different dynamic. Now, it's a different dynamic since
Kamala Harris got into the race back in mid July. Surprising.
I think that the Trump campaign, in terms of the
timing of it, maybe not the actual action of it.
And you have to prepare for that new dynamic and
(06:48):
what that means in terms of the states that are
in play. You see a visit today to North Carolina.
I don't think that kind of visit would have happened,
you know if Joe Biden remained on the ticket. You know,
talking to the Trump campaign, they thought that one was
essentially in the bag and they could ignore North Carolina.
Now you see a few visits that they're making to
(07:09):
that particular swing state, boy.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
John, you bring up an interesting point. There are a
couple that way that tell you that the campaigns on
both sides are nervous. You had Kamala Harris go to
New Hampshire and now you have Trump going to North Carolina.
And to your point, I think that's a real tell here.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well it is, you know, and you may scratch your
head whine new Hampshire. I certainly did, and I think
maybe it had to do with the fact that there
were some that were disappointed, missed, angered, whatever word you
want to use. That Democrats changed the first in the
nation primary from New Hampshire to South Carolina and this
was a way to potentially mend some fences. I don't
(07:49):
know what I said. That's where she made that a
dress Regarding economic issues for small business earlier this week
Speaker 2 (07:57):
John appreciated as always
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