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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Brian Mudshow podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
should be to visit Braymanmotorcars dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Have a question or topic you want to have addressed,
just ask. This is the Brian Mud Show. Hy sure
enough is hey? There have you Wednesday Today's Q and A?
How many illegal immigrants are here for work?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I want to hear just like sucking off of the
government team.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That is the question.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, So as we dive into Today's Q and
A brought to you by listen Ashes, check Mark Collections
and every Day I Do feature and listener questions sent
by one of these methods. You may email me Brian
Mud at iHeartMedia dot com, hit me up on social
at Brian Mud Radio. You may also use the iHeartRadio
talk back feature. We would love it if you would
(00:56):
go into the iHeartRadio app make WJ now, or if
you're a page your number one preset while you're doing that,
make the Brian Mucho Podcast your number two preset. That way,
We're always there for you. Easy to find, easy to access.
You can listen on demand for free, never miss anything
and while you're in there, you'll see a little microphone button.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You see it, you tap it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You mainly laid out a message right there, maybe a
topic or question for a future q anda just like
this one.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Why can't Donald Trump set up a program that finds
financially corporations that hire illegal aliens or have illegal aliens
on their staff. If the illegals can't work, they will
go back home to their own country.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Today's note is especially instructive because it brings up an
aspect of federal immigration law that is a little known,
while also providing an opportunity for me to illustrate just
how much times have changed pertaining to the motivations for
illegal immigrants to enter our country. Now, I'll start by
(02:01):
addressing the question, why can't Donald Trump set up a
program that finds corporations that hire illegal aliens or have
illegal aliens on their staff? Well, an answer to today's question,
the answer is that he can, He has, and he does.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The thing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And the single biggest thing as it pertains to this
is just how much times have changed. You go back
twenty thirty years ago, Yeah, most of the illegal immigrants
of this country were really here for work. But boy
over the past four years, a whole lot, whole lot
that wasn't about just trying to get a job.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So about all of this.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The president can direct agencies like ICE to increase audits,
increased enforcement, ramp up finds on offending employers via the
Immigration Reform and Control Act of nineteen eighty SIVE, which
was actually right around the time that Joe Biden first
was running for president. That actually was the case, you know,
(03:06):
it's the Act prohibits employers for knowingly hiring. Is also
around the same time that Oprah Winfrey was saying, hey man,
this Donald Trump's just a great guy. You know what,
you really should run for president. That was That's how
I go was Oprah made sense. But anyway, the Act
prohibits employers for knowingly hiring unauthorized workers. It requires verifying
(03:30):
employee eligibility. Penalties include finds ranging from five hundred seventy
three dollars to twenty thousand, one hundred and thirty dollars
per violation for hiring illegal immigrants, with hire finds for
rep defenders. So again, this law has been on the
book since nineteen eighty six, and like many laws, the
(03:51):
overall effectiveness comes down to enforcement. During the Biden presidency,
enforcement of the law effectively dropped, not the case during
the first Trump administration. To give you an idea, in
twenty nineteen, which was the final full fiscal year of
President Trump's first term, ICE conducted six thousand, seven hundred
and eighty nine work site investigations under this law, or
(04:14):
an average of nineteen per day. If you think about
that's quite a bit. You got Ice, you know, in
investigating nineteen employers today per day, four violations potential violations,
and it did result in fourteen point three million dollars
in fines against offending employers. Now, upon his return to office,
President Trump once again enforcing the Immigration Reform and Control Act.
(04:38):
So that is not really the issue. The challenge is
twofold related to it. I mean, the first thing is
just the federal government at this level dealing with employers.
To give you an idea, there are over six point
one million employers in the United States. You know, I
said ICE was doing nineteen a day. How many days
(04:59):
do you need to get across over six million employers? Right,
So just imagine the size and the scale that ICE
would have to be to credibly enforce the law.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Ongoing nationwide. That's one.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, the Trump administration doing what it can reasonably
on this front, but expecting the federal government with ice
to be in just about every community everywhere to keep
tabs on over six million employers, you know, with who
they're hiring at any given time is just not terribly realistic.
So second, and the even bigger challenge here is that employment.
(05:34):
It's not why most illegal immigrants are here in the
first place. I appreciate the question, but it actually is
it's kind of based on a false premise. You've got
to flip the script on this deal. So trivia time,
what percentage of illegal immigrants currently in the United States
are here for work? You know? And I've thought about
(05:58):
this number, and I'm exure extremely cynical, and I just
I feel like my number's low.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But I'm going to go with thirty thirty percent.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I would be willing to bet if we took
a look at if we took a look at what's
happenedes in recent years, that would be a low number
because we do have many illegal immigrants that have been
here in some cases for decades even, and many that
did come and still are here for work.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Numbers higher than that, not a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
But so to give you an idea the way we
actually have this information the Department of Homeland Security, when
they are detaining, when they are interviewing, anytime they have
contact with somebody who lacks legal status, this is part
of the information that they drive why are they here?
What is the driving reason? And so from the DHS interviews,
(06:50):
from their their research, only forty five point three percent
of illegal immigrants in the United States right now are
here primarily for work. Forty five point three most are not.
That was not the driving factor. And this goes hand
in glove with previous findings that I've shared with you
(07:10):
pretending to the percentage of illegal immigrants a government assistance programs.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, look, especially under Biden, word got out.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Hey, you go there, you saunder up to the border
patrol agent, you say ASA. You know this is why
I say, is ilum and they send you a five
star in Manhattan. You get all kinds of government goodies. Shoot,
who need to work for a living? Right, So that
kind of thing really poisoned the well here. Based on
data from the Center for Immigration Studies, this is stuff
(07:39):
I've brought you before, but it bears repeating. In the
context of the story, sixty three percent of households headed
by a non citizen use a minimum of one federal
government welfare program, and many programs right down the line
from the federal government all the way through local governments.
(08:00):
Programs most commonly exploited by illegal immigrants housing. I was
talking about affordable housing abuse just yesterday, financial welfare, medicaid,
snap Wick, school lunch programs. And so what's become crystal
clear is that the Biden administration's efforts to make it
comfortable for illegal immigrants to come here and live on
government assistance programs seized on and became the prominent reason
(08:25):
for the average illegal immigrant in the United States. They're
here to sit here and suck on the government team.
And so they will not leave if you just take
away the work opportunities. Most will not. That's all why
they're here. This is why President Trump's executive orders aimed
at removing illegal immigrants from federal government assistance programs is
(08:45):
actually the single most important aspect to try to disincentivize
the situation. Removing illegal immigrants from government assistants programs would
address the reason they're most commonly here. That, along with
the just announced incentive for self deport that is the
most effective thing that Trump administration can do. Secondly, I
was calling on communities to stop making it comfortable for
(09:07):
illegal immigrants at the local level yesterday, because that's another
problem we've got. Even where the federal government isn't giving
away government goodies, local governments make it way too comfortable
and often provide government goodies.
The Brian Mudshow podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
should be to visit Braymanmotorcars dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Have a question or topic you want to have addressed,
just ask. This is the Brian Mud Show. Hy sure
enough is hey? There have you Wednesday Today's Q and A?
How many illegal immigrants are here for work?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I want to hear just like sucking off of the
government team.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That is the question.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, So as we dive into Today's Q and
A brought to you by listen Ashes, check Mark Collections
and every Day I Do feature and listener questions sent
by one of these methods. You may email me Brian
Mud at iHeartMedia dot com, hit me up on social
at Brian Mud Radio. You may also use the iHeartRadio
talk back feature. We would love it if you would
(00:56):
go into the iHeartRadio app make WJ now, or if
you're a page your number one preset while you're doing that,
make the Brian Mucho Podcast your number two preset. That way,
We're always there for you. Easy to find, easy to access.
You can listen on demand for free, never miss anything
and while you're in there, you'll see a little microphone button.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You see it, you tap it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You mainly laid out a message right there, maybe a
topic or question for a future q anda just like
this one.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Why can't Donald Trump set up a program that finds
financially corporations that hire illegal aliens or have illegal aliens
on their staff. If the illegals can't work, they will
go back home to their own country.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Today's note is especially instructive because it brings up an
aspect of federal immigration law that is a little known,
while also providing an opportunity for me to illustrate just
how much times have changed pertaining to the motivations for
illegal immigrants to enter our country. Now, I'll start by
(02:01):
addressing the question, why can't Donald Trump set up a
program that finds corporations that hire illegal aliens or have
illegal aliens on their staff? Well, an answer to today's question,
the answer is that he can, He has, and he does.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The thing.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And the single biggest thing as it pertains to this
is just how much times have changed. You go back
twenty thirty years ago, Yeah, most of the illegal immigrants
of this country were really here for work. But boy
over the past four years, a whole lot, whole lot
that wasn't about just trying to get a job.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So about all of this.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The president can direct agencies like ICE to increase audits,
increased enforcement, ramp up finds on offending employers via the
Immigration Reform and Control Act of nineteen eighty SIVE, which
was actually right around the time that Joe Biden first
was running for president. That actually was the case, you know,
(03:06):
it's the Act prohibits employers for knowingly hiring. Is also
around the same time that Oprah Winfrey was saying, hey man,
this Donald Trump's just a great guy. You know what,
you really should run for president. That was That's how
I go was Oprah made sense. But anyway, the Act
prohibits employers for knowingly hiring unauthorized workers. It requires verifying
(03:30):
employee eligibility. Penalties include finds ranging from five hundred seventy
three dollars to twenty thousand, one hundred and thirty dollars
per violation for hiring illegal immigrants, with hire finds for
rep defenders. So again, this law has been on the
book since nineteen eighty six, and like many laws, the
(03:51):
overall effectiveness comes down to enforcement. During the Biden presidency,
enforcement of the law effectively dropped, not the case during
the first Trump administration. To give you an idea, in
twenty nineteen, which was the final full fiscal year of
President Trump's first term, ICE conducted six thousand, seven hundred
and eighty nine work site investigations under this law, or
(04:14):
an average of nineteen per day. If you think about
that's quite a bit. You got Ice, you know, in
investigating nineteen employers today per day, four violations potential violations,
and it did result in fourteen point three million dollars
in fines against offending employers. Now, upon his return to office,
President Trump once again enforcing the Immigration Reform and Control Act.
(04:38):
So that is not really the issue. The challenge is
twofold related to it. I mean, the first thing is
just the federal government at this level dealing with employers.
To give you an idea, there are over six point
one million employers in the United States. You know, I
said ICE was doing nineteen a day. How many days
(04:59):
do you need to get across over six million employers? Right,
So just imagine the size and the scale that ICE
would have to be to credibly enforce the law.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Ongoing nationwide. That's one.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, the Trump administration doing what it can reasonably
on this front, but expecting the federal government with ice
to be in just about every community everywhere to keep
tabs on over six million employers, you know, with who
they're hiring at any given time is just not terribly realistic.
So second, and the even bigger challenge here is that employment.
(05:34):
It's not why most illegal immigrants are here in the
first place. I appreciate the question, but it actually is
it's kind of based on a false premise. You've got
to flip the script on this deal. So trivia time,
what percentage of illegal immigrants currently in the United States
are here for work? You know? And I've thought about
(05:58):
this number, and I'm exure extremely cynical, and I just
I feel like my number's low.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But I'm going to go with thirty thirty percent.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I would be willing to bet if we took
a look at if we took a look at what's
happenedes in recent years, that would be a low number
because we do have many illegal immigrants that have been
here in some cases for decades even, and many that
did come and still are here for work.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Numbers higher than that, not a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
But so to give you an idea the way we
actually have this information the Department of Homeland Security, when
they are detaining, when they are interviewing, anytime they have
contact with somebody who lacks legal status, this is part
of the information that they drive why are they here?
What is the driving reason? And so from the DHS interviews,
(06:50):
from their their research, only forty five point three percent
of illegal immigrants in the United States right now are
here primarily for work. Forty five point three most are not.
That was not the driving factor. And this goes hand
in glove with previous findings that I've shared with you
(07:10):
pretending to the percentage of illegal immigrants a government assistance programs.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean, look, especially under Biden, word got out.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Hey, you go there, you saunder up to the border
patrol agent, you say ASA. You know this is why
I say, is ilum and they send you a five
star in Manhattan. You get all kinds of government goodies. Shoot,
who need to work for a living? Right, So that
kind of thing really poisoned the well here. Based on
data from the Center for Immigration Studies, this is stuff
(07:39):
I've brought you before, but it bears repeating. In the
context of the story, sixty three percent of households headed
by a non citizen use a minimum of one federal
government welfare program, and many programs right down the line
from the federal government all the way through local governments.
(08:00):
Programs most commonly exploited by illegal immigrants housing. I was
talking about affordable housing abuse just yesterday, financial welfare, medicaid,
snap Wick, school lunch programs. And so what's become crystal
clear is that the Biden administration's efforts to make it
comfortable for illegal immigrants to come here and live on
government assistance programs seized on and became the prominent reason
(08:25):
for the average illegal immigrant in the United States. They're
here to sit here and suck on the government team.
And so they will not leave if you just take
away the work opportunities. Most will not. That's all why
they're here. This is why President Trump's executive orders aimed
at removing illegal immigrants from federal government assistance programs is
(08:45):
actually the single most important aspect to try to disincentivize
the situation. Removing illegal immigrants from government assistants programs would
address the reason they're most commonly here. That, along with
the just announced incentive for self deport that is the
most effective thing that Trump administration can do. Secondly, I
was calling on communities to stop making it comfortable for
(09:07):
illegal immigrants at the local level yesterday, because that's another
problem we've got. Even where the federal government isn't giving
away government goodies, local governments make it way too comfortable
and often provide government goodies.
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