February 28, 2025 • 27 mins
Resilience and Purpose: Navigating Life's Toughest Challenges
In this episode, the speaker explores the concept of resilience through personal anecdotes and famous quotes, emphasizing the importance of persistence during difficult times. The essence of the message is that life must be lived forward but can only be understood in hindsight. It acknowledges the pain of current struggles while offering a hopeful perspective that all challenges are finite and can lead to personal growth. The episode encourages embracing and fully experiencing emotions, reinterpreting personal narratives, and shifting mindsets to focus on positive outcomes and health. With reflections on self-acceptance, the importance of continual effort, and the inspiration drawn from others, the speaker underscores that each person's unique journey can lead to profound achievements and meaning. 00:00 Keep Going Through Tough Times
01:28 Understanding Healing and Progress
02:36 The Backstory of Amazing People
03:23 Living a Life on Purpose
04:12 Embracing and Overcoming Challenges
05:48 The Power of Perspective
09:18 Focus on Positivity and Health
13:26 Self-Actualization and Acceptance
23:37 Reflecting on Life's Journey
26:29 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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(00:04):
I believe it was WinstonChurchill who said if you're going
through hell, just keep going.
So if you're going through rough time,
keep on going.
(00:25):
I know it's not easy.
I've been through it.
I've been in, in the dumps.
I've been hopeless,
questioning why.
And yet there's this interestingtruth about life that the irony about
life Is it must be lived in forward,in a forward direction, but can only
(00:52):
be understood when you look back.
And keep going doesn't mean that youdeny everything you're feeling in
the moment and all your fears and
just put your head in the sand.
(01:14):
It means acknowledge it and feel what youfeel and it's okay to feel what you feel.
Know for sure that it's finite.
There's only a certain amount of timeyou're going to feel the way you feel.
The really interesting thing about, in theprofession I work in, a lot of times when
(01:35):
something's healing, it heals so slowlyand subtly, that it takes a while before
somebody recognizes that it's better.
Like.
I don't know, have you ever noticedthat, like, you have something going
on in your body for a very long time,and then one day you suddenly realize
(01:59):
you hadn't felt that in a few days,and that's, that's how healing works.
It's like you're living in this bodythat's constantly healing itself,
um, and you have a whole thoughtprocess, a mind, everything that's
working on healing that process.
(02:20):
But it's, it's, you're in this 24 7 365.
People outside you can see how thechanges happen, but inside it's hard.
So I'd like to give you somethinginteresting to think about today.
And that's the fact that it, anyincredible human being you have ever
(02:41):
met, any of the really, the peoplewho really stand out, the people with
joy, the people really living life,
They've got a backstory.
Life was not easy for them.
The more amazing a human being youmeet, the more they've been through.
And it's actually a truth.
(03:01):
And I don't say this for you to feelsorry for these people, but what I do
say this for is, if you're going throughthings, perhaps, it's on purpose.
And you understand, it was Dr.Wayne Dyer that I saw this,
um, he wrote it in a book.
(03:23):
And he said,
living a life on purpose was living alife you're intentionally going in a
direction and that direction happensto be the purpose of your life.
You know, a calm human being was notcreated on a beach sipping Mai Tais.
(03:48):
Calmness is created by going throughstorm after storm after storm, being
knocked down over and over again.
And the calm was createdas you get back up.
And then you look back andyou see, oh, I survived that.
And the next thing comesalong, and I survived that.
And the next thing that comes along.
(04:12):
There's no incredible human beingon this planet who has not been
through something really difficult.
And every one of us who've beenthrough incredible stuff, um, have
had moments where we were lying onthe ground going, I want to quit.
I just want to give up.
(04:35):
I remember there was a point in my life Iwas, I was just like, I was taking, I felt
like I was taking up space on this planet.
Like I was displacing a bit of airand that was about the worth I had.
And there was nothing on this planet thatI could ever, could do in that moment
or would ever be able to do to reallyhave an impact or make a difference.
(04:58):
And I don't know if I actually waslaying on my back, and maybe I was,
I was laying on my back in grass.
The lowest point and I looked up and all Isaw was stars and something I realized is
when you are at your lowest point in life,
(05:22):
everything is up
and that is kind of cool becausethere's no no further to fall,
everything's up
and it's what you dowith that in that moment
(05:45):
that makes all the difference.
You know, like what, what if there's a,like you're in a moment right now where
something's happened, which is preventingyou from doing something you love.
And all you can feel is sadnessand despair and frustration
(06:15):
and like, why me?
And does this mean I'll neverbe able to do what I love again?
And all those questionswill go through your head.
You know, I've said itbefore, I'll say it again.
It's really okay to feelhow you feel, right?
And feel it all.
If you need to cry, cry.
But not only, like,feel your chest heaving.
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Feel the tear rolling down your cheek.
Feel.
Experience.
Don't.
Don't hide from it.
Experience the whole thing.
Bring Mindfulness, bring the presentmoment into that feeling and at the
same time your brain's gonna wantto make say this means this and that
(06:58):
Means this and that means this andthis means that but you know in truth
It's all you have is what happened
and what happened is just what so andthen anything you add to that is a story
(07:19):
And if you get caught up in astory about what's so, I mean,
that's the hardest place in theworld to be, because honestly.
That doesn't mean what youthink it means, or what your
mind wants to make it to mean.
Whatever is going on right nowhas no inherent meaning until
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you place a meaning on it.
And if you place a meaning that's notpowerful, not working, and not taking
you where you want to go, it's goingto take you in the opposite direction.
And yeah, sometimes in life we haveto go through I went through this
so many times, and it took me somany years, over and over again.
So I'm not saying even thatdoesn't have value in the end.
(08:04):
Sometimes, you've got to getreally far from what you want in
life to motivate you to go for it.
100%. You need a health scare.
I had a health scare last year.
My blood pressure was through the roof
and my doctor said, Hey, right nowyou're sitting at a 25 percent or
(08:27):
28 percent chance of having a heartattack in the next five years.
And I was like, whoa,
I'm not done.
Now, I could have said, oh, woe isme, like, oh, no, I'm in trouble.
But no, I said, oh, I'm not done.
What do I need to do?
So I started researching, see, what canI do to bring down my blood pressure?
(08:49):
And what, what do I need to do?
And, and I lost a bunch of weight andbrought it down to a considerable amount.
Um, but still ended up on medication.
And then I hit kind of a plateauand I gained a little weight back.
And right now I'm on a really, um, moreintense, like, I'm not focusing on losing
(09:14):
weight, I'm focusing on gaining health.
Because I don't know if, like, Ithink what you focus on expands.
And if you focus on something negative,you're going to expand negativity.
If you focus on positivity,you're going to gain positivity.
(09:34):
It's like with runners, um, andathletes that I've worked with,
when they're focusing on not gettinginjured, I'm like, Oh man, like,
change, change your view a little bit.
Don't focus on not something.
Focus on what you want.
Focus on maintaining,enhancing performance, getting
stronger, getting healthier.
(09:55):
really focus on reallytaking care of yourself.
Not so you don't get injured, but sothat your performance will improve and
you'll be able to enjoy your stuff.
It's just like, it's asubtle, subtle mind shift.
Everything I talk aboutis just a subtle shift.
Just look at it, if you lookat your life a little bit
(10:17):
differently, your life will change.
And a lot of this is habit and it's, it'skind of designed into our, our old brain,
our instinctual brain and everything.
But it doesn't mean withoutwork, you can't change it, right?
Like I'm saying, every singleamazing person on this planet
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has a backstory.
And why I'm saying that is you arean amazing person in your own right.
And maybe you don't know how that'sgonna show up in this life, or
how you're gonna express that,
but you are amazing in your own way.
Like your DNA, you're unique.
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There's never been somebody like you.
There never will be somebodylike you again on this planet.
This is your one opportunity with thisDNA to see why everything came together
this way and what am I here to create.
Now it could be a hundred million things.
It could be incredible.
You could be an incredible athlete.
You could be an incrediblespeaker, incredible intellect.
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You could be the most incredibleparent raising amazing children.
It could show up in so many ways.
But the truth is there'ssomething amazing about you.
And if, if I was to say one thingfor sure around tough times and
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that would be the tougher thingsyou're going through is because
you're meant for bigger things.
If you listen to a lot of mypodcasts, you'll see, see one
that was specifically on that.
Maybe your road is harderbecause your calling is higher.
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You know, it's like, think aboutif you, if you are a religious
person, you pray to God, or if youbelieve in the universe and you go.
Help me be strong.
You think that it will go poof.
You're strong.
Well, yeah No, what it would do is putyou through hard things in order to see
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for you to see Because people can tell youI can tell you things all day long I can
tell you a million things and I'm speakingthe truth and being really inspiring
and the whole bit But like SiddharthaGautama the Buddha said he said believe
nothing We leave nothing you hear, nothingyou think, nothing you see, nothing you
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read, until you've tried it for yourselfand you have experiential knowledge.
So all I'm trying to do is tellyou to take a look at these things.
If, if the things in yourlife are not working for you,
then look at them differently.
I used to go to yoga and they said like,one of the greatest things you can do is
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to get into an inverted posture so you canlook at life from a different perspective.
If there's one common messagethrough everything I do, I want
you to look life at your life froma different perspective, right?
Especially if what you're doing, whatyou want to do in this life, and what's
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going on in your life is not aligned.
If your goals are over to the right andwhere you are is over to the left, Maybe
it's just a mind shift you, that you need.
Maybe you just need to lookat it from a different angle.
Maybe you have to change theway you speak about things.
Like, I don't know exactly what'sgoing on with you, but I know some
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of the things that went on with me,and that's all I can talk about.
Like, my internalconversation was so negative.
You suck, you suck, you'rea loser, you're a loser.
You'll never get anything right.
And like, yeah, rightdown to why don't you die.
And I lived with that for along time, thinking that was
me, and that was the truth.
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Because it's got to be.
It's in my head, right?
It's got to be the truth.
It's like, no, no, no.
Don't believe everything you think.
That conversation in your head is justtrying to protect you from getting hurt.
Which is fine, but the way it'sdoing it is trying to keep you small.
Because if you don't break outside ofwhat you think is possible in your life,
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then you'll never fail, you'll never gethurt, and you'll live a mediocre life.
And like, who wants that?
And it's, I mean, honestly, if that'swhat you want, go for it, okay?
I'm not, I'm not speaking to you.
Like, I support you and whatever.
We need everybody on this planet.
But now I'm speaking to the peoplewho don't want a mediocre life.
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Who don't want to livea life of mediocrity.
The people who do not want to be layingin their deathbed going, What if?
You know, if anything scares me more thananything in this lifetime, is sitting in
a rocking chair in a dark room in my late80s, early 90s going, what if I tried?
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I actually don't even care if I fail.
I really don't.
In fact, I welcome failure.
I want to fall on my face andlike I've done it three times at
running in the last few years.
So, and I keep on running.
You'd think I'd get the point, but no.
The people who do greatthings keep on overcoming.
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They do not live a life.
They will not be on their rockingchair, no matter win, lose, or draw.
They will not live a life and at theend of the life going, what if I tried?
The people who are amazing arethe ones who keep on getting up.
One more time.
Fall down.
One more time.
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Fall down.
One more time.
And how many times is enough?
There's no such thing as enough.
You get injured, get back up, heal,feel what you feel, learn what
you learn, get back out there.
You get injured again, heal, sort itout, learn what you need to learn,
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change things, get back out there.
And over, and over, and over.
Because you know what?
You just cannot beat aperson who will not give up.
And the only truth in this life is change.
If you're going througha tough time, guess what?
That will change.
I mean, it's good to know also that I'vesaid a million times Is that if you're
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going through a really great time, it'sgonna change So really enjoy your good
times really like get really presentpush your feet in the ground Feel how
you feel in your body feel smell theair like really really Anchor it into
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your consciousness into your memory.
So if you're ever having a bad day You cango back there and like no I can get there.
You know the greatest peopleyou've Ever met on this planet.
They have they have no destination.
They're going they have no I will behappy when It doesn't exist in their
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lives The greatest people you've met haveknown such sorrow that in contrast Just
having a roof over their head meals andlike living a life bring such joy to them
There is no happy when The onlytime you can be happy is now, and
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now, and now, and now, and now.
That's all you got.
In fact, we only have this present moment.
You know, fear, and doubt, and allthat stuff that causes anxiety.
It lives in the past or into the present.
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It doesn't exist in the now.
In this moment, we're whole and complete.
We have everything we need.
Right now, as you're listeningto this, you have everything.
You are complete.
You're whole.
And maybe part of you thinksyou're not good enough or like
there's stuff to work out.
I don't, you know, okay, so letme make it very clear on this.
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This is an inspirational podcast.
It's not self help.
Because I don't think you need any help.
If I was to classify this in any way,I would call it self actualization.
And that would mean maybe You cancome to see how amazing you are.
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Maybe you can get past all thethings that say no, I'm not.
And actually see who you are.
Because
you're amazing.
Just the fact that you're here is amazing.
Just the fact that you'relistening to this is amazing.
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You're destined for incredible things.
And maybe some of them willlook like you think they are.
They're, they're supposed toshow up and some of them will
not look like what you think.
It's amazing, but when you'rein it, it will be amazing.
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It's like in a real relationship.
I learned a long time ago that youknow, if you are trying to be in a
relationship with Somebo, with you,with who you wish somebody was,
then you're not in arelationship with that person.
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So if you're sitting here ina relationship with your, with
the you, you wish you were.
You have no relationship with yourself.
And because resistance causespersistence, if you're resisting
where you are right now,
you're actually helping theversion of yourself that you want
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to shift or change or you don'twant to be anymore stand in place.
And the only way past that andto where you're going in life
if you're resisting where you are righthere and right now, you're helping the
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place you don't want to be to persist.
And until you can find a way to acceptwhere you are right here and now, not
the story about why you're there orwhat it means or anything like that.
Accept that this is where I am right now.
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This is what is so, and so what.
It's not, and it's crazy, becauseit's not settling for how life is.
It's just accepting, thisis where I am right now.
And I accept this.
And if you made that a practice,
one of two things isgoing to happen, right?
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It's either going to one, disappear asa problem, because if you've accepted
something, it's no longer a problem.
Or maybe it'll just magically disappear.
And then maybe you can get on theroad to where you're supposed to be.
To who you're supposed to be.
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Because you're here for big things.
And some of them are exactlywhat you think they are.
And some of them are so muchbigger than you can imagine.
And some of them from the outsidelook small and insignificant.
And yet, they're so profound.
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If you're going through toughtimes, Maybe there's a reason.
You know, life doesn't typically,sometimes it feels like you're
being guided away from something.
And sometimes you make achoice to leave something.
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But, I learned a long time ago thatI'm never, never leaving something,
but I'm moving towards something.
There's a big difference betweenmoving towards something or running
from something or leaving somethingor putting something behind you.
Some,
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some day you'll see,
some day you'll see everything you'vebeen through and like I have and I've
talked about it in other episodes andI, it's interesting how you see this
interwoven path how you, something failed.
(23:59):
But then it drove you to something better.
And that every time something didn'twork out, it was because there
was something better and stronger.
And then you went through somethingand it was really tough, but
the tough times are what teach youthe strength and the resilience
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and compassion and empathy.
And as you look back through yourlife, you'll see, see how each and
everything basically was on purpose.
And the toughest times gaveyou the biggest lessons.
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It's almost like if you reallylooked at everything you've overcome,
and you sat down and youcreated a story about it.
Not from a victim, um, point of view, butfrom Like a really powerful point of view.
In fact, you could do it andwrite it as a survival guide.
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How do I make it through this?
And how do I make it through that?
And you never know, if you were ableto really write down an incredible
survival guide that took you, thattook you to the place that you'd
always wanted to be or like way beyondanything you could ever imagine.
Maybe if you wrote that down, yousee so many people have done this.
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They've, they've written the storyof their lives and they inspired
incredibly amounts of people.
Maybe you could do thatwith your own story.
Maybe you could look at if youare going through tough things is
maybe it's because you're supposedto, you're here for big things.
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And as you focus on that, it would giveyou the strength and resilience to make
it through what you're going throughright now, to make it to the next thing,
to the next thing, to the next thing.
And honestly,
it will get better.
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And maybe one day,somebody will go to you,
How, how did you, are you just lucky?
How did you become so amazing?
And you'll smile and say, Oh man,you want to hear the back story?
Thank you for listening to thisepisode of conversation with Kimen.
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Have an amazing day.
I believe it was WinstonChurchill who said if you're going
through hell, just keep going.
So if you're going through rough time,
keep on going.
(00:25):
I know it's not easy.
I've been through it.
I've been in, in the dumps.
I've been hopeless,
questioning why.
And yet there's this interestingtruth about life that the irony about
life Is it must be lived in forward,in a forward direction, but can only
(00:52):
be understood when you look back.
And keep going doesn't mean that youdeny everything you're feeling in
the moment and all your fears and
just put your head in the sand.
(01:14):
It means acknowledge it and feel what youfeel and it's okay to feel what you feel.
Know for sure that it's finite.
There's only a certain amount of timeyou're going to feel the way you feel.
The really interesting thing about, in theprofession I work in, a lot of times when
(01:35):
something's healing, it heals so slowlyand subtly, that it takes a while before
somebody recognizes that it's better.
Like.
I don't know, have you ever noticedthat, like, you have something going
on in your body for a very long time,and then one day you suddenly realize
(01:59):
you hadn't felt that in a few days,and that's, that's how healing works.
It's like you're living in this bodythat's constantly healing itself,
um, and you have a whole thoughtprocess, a mind, everything that's
working on healing that process.
(02:20):
But it's, it's, you're in this 24 7 365.
People outside you can see how thechanges happen, but inside it's hard.
So I'd like to give you somethinginteresting to think about today.
And that's the fact that it, anyincredible human being you have ever
(02:41):
met, any of the really, the peoplewho really stand out, the people with
joy, the people really living life,
They've got a backstory.
Life was not easy for them.
The more amazing a human being youmeet, the more they've been through.
And it's actually a truth.
(03:01):
And I don't say this for you to feelsorry for these people, but what I do
say this for is, if you're going throughthings, perhaps, it's on purpose.
And you understand, it was Dr.Wayne Dyer that I saw this,
um, he wrote it in a book.
(03:23):
And he said,
living a life on purpose was living alife you're intentionally going in a
direction and that direction happensto be the purpose of your life.
You know, a calm human being was notcreated on a beach sipping Mai Tais.
(03:48):
Calmness is created by going throughstorm after storm after storm, being
knocked down over and over again.
And the calm was createdas you get back up.
And then you look back andyou see, oh, I survived that.
And the next thing comesalong, and I survived that.
And the next thing that comes along.
(04:12):
There's no incredible human beingon this planet who has not been
through something really difficult.
And every one of us who've beenthrough incredible stuff, um, have
had moments where we were lying onthe ground going, I want to quit.
I just want to give up.
(04:35):
I remember there was a point in my life Iwas, I was just like, I was taking, I felt
like I was taking up space on this planet.
Like I was displacing a bit of airand that was about the worth I had.
And there was nothing on this planet thatI could ever, could do in that moment
or would ever be able to do to reallyhave an impact or make a difference.
(04:58):
And I don't know if I actually waslaying on my back, and maybe I was,
I was laying on my back in grass.
The lowest point and I looked up and all Isaw was stars and something I realized is
when you are at your lowest point in life,
(05:22):
everything is up
and that is kind of cool becausethere's no no further to fall,
everything's up
and it's what you dowith that in that moment
(05:45):
that makes all the difference.
You know, like what, what if there's a,like you're in a moment right now where
something's happened, which is preventingyou from doing something you love.
And all you can feel is sadnessand despair and frustration
(06:15):
and like, why me?
And does this mean I'll neverbe able to do what I love again?
And all those questionswill go through your head.
You know, I've said itbefore, I'll say it again.
It's really okay to feelhow you feel, right?
And feel it all.
If you need to cry, cry.
But not only, like,feel your chest heaving.
(06:37):
Feel the tear rolling down your cheek.
Feel.
Experience.
Don't.
Don't hide from it.
Experience the whole thing.
Bring Mindfulness, bring the presentmoment into that feeling and at the
same time your brain's gonna wantto make say this means this and that
(06:58):
Means this and that means this andthis means that but you know in truth
It's all you have is what happened
and what happened is just what so andthen anything you add to that is a story
(07:19):
And if you get caught up in astory about what's so, I mean,
that's the hardest place in theworld to be, because honestly.
That doesn't mean what youthink it means, or what your
mind wants to make it to mean.
Whatever is going on right nowhas no inherent meaning until
(07:39):
you place a meaning on it.
And if you place a meaning that's notpowerful, not working, and not taking
you where you want to go, it's goingto take you in the opposite direction.
And yeah, sometimes in life we haveto go through I went through this
so many times, and it took me somany years, over and over again.
So I'm not saying even thatdoesn't have value in the end.
(08:04):
Sometimes, you've got to getreally far from what you want in
life to motivate you to go for it.
100%. You need a health scare.
I had a health scare last year.
My blood pressure was through the roof
and my doctor said, Hey, right nowyou're sitting at a 25 percent or
(08:27):
28 percent chance of having a heartattack in the next five years.
And I was like, whoa,
I'm not done.
Now, I could have said, oh, woe isme, like, oh, no, I'm in trouble.
But no, I said, oh, I'm not done.
What do I need to do?
So I started researching, see, what canI do to bring down my blood pressure?
(08:49):
And what, what do I need to do?
And, and I lost a bunch of weight andbrought it down to a considerable amount.
Um, but still ended up on medication.
And then I hit kind of a plateauand I gained a little weight back.
And right now I'm on a really, um, moreintense, like, I'm not focusing on losing
(09:14):
weight, I'm focusing on gaining health.
Because I don't know if, like, Ithink what you focus on expands.
And if you focus on something negative,you're going to expand negativity.
If you focus on positivity,you're going to gain positivity.
(09:34):
It's like with runners, um, andathletes that I've worked with,
when they're focusing on not gettinginjured, I'm like, Oh man, like,
change, change your view a little bit.
Don't focus on not something.
Focus on what you want.
Focus on maintaining,enhancing performance, getting
stronger, getting healthier.
(09:55):
really focus on reallytaking care of yourself.
Not so you don't get injured, but sothat your performance will improve and
you'll be able to enjoy your stuff.
It's just like, it's asubtle, subtle mind shift.
Everything I talk aboutis just a subtle shift.
Just look at it, if you lookat your life a little bit
(10:17):
differently, your life will change.
And a lot of this is habit and it's, it'skind of designed into our, our old brain,
our instinctual brain and everything.
But it doesn't mean withoutwork, you can't change it, right?
Like I'm saying, every singleamazing person on this planet
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has a backstory.
And why I'm saying that is you arean amazing person in your own right.
And maybe you don't know how that'sgonna show up in this life, or
how you're gonna express that,
but you are amazing in your own way.
Like your DNA, you're unique.
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There's never been somebody like you.
There never will be somebodylike you again on this planet.
This is your one opportunity with thisDNA to see why everything came together
this way and what am I here to create.
Now it could be a hundred million things.
It could be incredible.
You could be an incredible athlete.
You could be an incrediblespeaker, incredible intellect.
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You could be the most incredibleparent raising amazing children.
It could show up in so many ways.
But the truth is there'ssomething amazing about you.
And if, if I was to say one thingfor sure around tough times and
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that would be the tougher thingsyou're going through is because
you're meant for bigger things.
If you listen to a lot of mypodcasts, you'll see, see one
that was specifically on that.
Maybe your road is harderbecause your calling is higher.
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You know, it's like, think aboutif you, if you are a religious
person, you pray to God, or if youbelieve in the universe and you go.
Help me be strong.
You think that it will go poof.
You're strong.
Well, yeah No, what it would do is putyou through hard things in order to see
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for you to see Because people can tell youI can tell you things all day long I can
tell you a million things and I'm speakingthe truth and being really inspiring
and the whole bit But like SiddharthaGautama the Buddha said he said believe
nothing We leave nothing you hear, nothingyou think, nothing you see, nothing you
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read, until you've tried it for yourselfand you have experiential knowledge.
So all I'm trying to do is tellyou to take a look at these things.
If, if the things in yourlife are not working for you,
then look at them differently.
I used to go to yoga and they said like,one of the greatest things you can do is
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to get into an inverted posture so you canlook at life from a different perspective.
If there's one common messagethrough everything I do, I want
you to look life at your life froma different perspective, right?
Especially if what you're doing, whatyou want to do in this life, and what's
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going on in your life is not aligned.
If your goals are over to the right andwhere you are is over to the left, Maybe
it's just a mind shift you, that you need.
Maybe you just need to lookat it from a different angle.
Maybe you have to change theway you speak about things.
Like, I don't know exactly what'sgoing on with you, but I know some
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of the things that went on with me,and that's all I can talk about.
Like, my internalconversation was so negative.
You suck, you suck, you'rea loser, you're a loser.
You'll never get anything right.
And like, yeah, rightdown to why don't you die.
And I lived with that for along time, thinking that was
me, and that was the truth.
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Because it's got to be.
It's in my head, right?
It's got to be the truth.
It's like, no, no, no.
Don't believe everything you think.
That conversation in your head is justtrying to protect you from getting hurt.
Which is fine, but the way it'sdoing it is trying to keep you small.
Because if you don't break outside ofwhat you think is possible in your life,
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then you'll never fail, you'll never gethurt, and you'll live a mediocre life.
And like, who wants that?
And it's, I mean, honestly, if that'swhat you want, go for it, okay?
I'm not, I'm not speaking to you.
Like, I support you and whatever.
We need everybody on this planet.
But now I'm speaking to the peoplewho don't want a mediocre life.
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Who don't want to livea life of mediocrity.
The people who do not want to be layingin their deathbed going, What if?
You know, if anything scares me more thananything in this lifetime, is sitting in
a rocking chair in a dark room in my late80s, early 90s going, what if I tried?
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I actually don't even care if I fail.
I really don't.
In fact, I welcome failure.
I want to fall on my face andlike I've done it three times at
running in the last few years.
So, and I keep on running.
You'd think I'd get the point, but no.
The people who do greatthings keep on overcoming.
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They do not live a life.
They will not be on their rockingchair, no matter win, lose, or draw.
They will not live a life and at theend of the life going, what if I tried?
The people who are amazing arethe ones who keep on getting up.
One more time.
Fall down.
One more time.
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Fall down.
One more time.
And how many times is enough?
There's no such thing as enough.
You get injured, get back up, heal,feel what you feel, learn what
you learn, get back out there.
You get injured again, heal, sort itout, learn what you need to learn,
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change things, get back out there.
And over, and over, and over.
Because you know what?
You just cannot beat aperson who will not give up.
And the only truth in this life is change.
If you're going througha tough time, guess what?
That will change.
I mean, it's good to know also that I'vesaid a million times Is that if you're
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going through a really great time, it'sgonna change So really enjoy your good
times really like get really presentpush your feet in the ground Feel how
you feel in your body feel smell theair like really really Anchor it into
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your consciousness into your memory.
So if you're ever having a bad day You cango back there and like no I can get there.
You know the greatest peopleyou've Ever met on this planet.
They have they have no destination.
They're going they have no I will behappy when It doesn't exist in their
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lives The greatest people you've met haveknown such sorrow that in contrast Just
having a roof over their head meals andlike living a life bring such joy to them
There is no happy when The onlytime you can be happy is now, and
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now, and now, and now, and now.
That's all you got.
In fact, we only have this present moment.
You know, fear, and doubt, and allthat stuff that causes anxiety.
It lives in the past or into the present.
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It doesn't exist in the now.
In this moment, we're whole and complete.
We have everything we need.
Right now, as you're listeningto this, you have everything.
You are complete.
You're whole.
And maybe part of you thinksyou're not good enough or like
there's stuff to work out.
I don't, you know, okay, so letme make it very clear on this.
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This is an inspirational podcast.
It's not self help.
Because I don't think you need any help.
If I was to classify this in any way,I would call it self actualization.
And that would mean maybe You cancome to see how amazing you are.
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Maybe you can get past all thethings that say no, I'm not.
And actually see who you are.
Because
you're amazing.
Just the fact that you're here is amazing.
Just the fact that you'relistening to this is amazing.
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You're destined for incredible things.
And maybe some of them willlook like you think they are.
They're, they're supposed toshow up and some of them will
not look like what you think.
It's amazing, but when you'rein it, it will be amazing.
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It's like in a real relationship.
I learned a long time ago that youknow, if you are trying to be in a
relationship with Somebo, with you,with who you wish somebody was,
then you're not in arelationship with that person.
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So if you're sitting here ina relationship with your, with
the you, you wish you were.
You have no relationship with yourself.
And because resistance causespersistence, if you're resisting
where you are right now,
you're actually helping theversion of yourself that you want
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to shift or change or you don'twant to be anymore stand in place.
And the only way past that andto where you're going in life
if you're resisting where you are righthere and right now, you're helping the
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place you don't want to be to persist.
And until you can find a way to acceptwhere you are right here and now, not
the story about why you're there orwhat it means or anything like that.
Accept that this is where I am right now.
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This is what is so, and so what.
It's not, and it's crazy, becauseit's not settling for how life is.
It's just accepting, thisis where I am right now.
And I accept this.
And if you made that a practice,
one of two things isgoing to happen, right?
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It's either going to one, disappear asa problem, because if you've accepted
something, it's no longer a problem.
Or maybe it'll just magically disappear.
And then maybe you can get on theroad to where you're supposed to be.
To who you're supposed to be.
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Because you're here for big things.
And some of them are exactlywhat you think they are.
And some of them are so muchbigger than you can imagine.
And some of them from the outsidelook small and insignificant.
And yet, they're so profound.
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If you're going through toughtimes, Maybe there's a reason.
You know, life doesn't typically,sometimes it feels like you're
being guided away from something.
And sometimes you make achoice to leave something.
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But, I learned a long time ago thatI'm never, never leaving something,
but I'm moving towards something.
There's a big difference betweenmoving towards something or running
from something or leaving somethingor putting something behind you.
Some,
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some day you'll see,
some day you'll see everything you'vebeen through and like I have and I've
talked about it in other episodes andI, it's interesting how you see this
interwoven path how you, something failed.
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But then it drove you to something better.
And that every time something didn'twork out, it was because there
was something better and stronger.
And then you went through somethingand it was really tough, but
the tough times are what teach youthe strength and the resilience
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and compassion and empathy.
And as you look back through yourlife, you'll see, see how each and
everything basically was on purpose.
And the toughest times gaveyou the biggest lessons.
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It's almost like if you reallylooked at everything you've overcome,
and you sat down and youcreated a story about it.
Not from a victim, um, point of view, butfrom Like a really powerful point of view.
In fact, you could do it andwrite it as a survival guide.
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How do I make it through this?
And how do I make it through that?
And you never know, if you were ableto really write down an incredible
survival guide that took you, thattook you to the place that you'd
always wanted to be or like way beyondanything you could ever imagine.
Maybe if you wrote that down, yousee so many people have done this.
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They've, they've written the storyof their lives and they inspired
incredibly amounts of people.
Maybe you could do thatwith your own story.
Maybe you could look at if youare going through tough things is
maybe it's because you're supposedto, you're here for big things.
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And as you focus on that, it would giveyou the strength and resilience to make
it through what you're going throughright now, to make it to the next thing,
to the next thing, to the next thing.
And honestly,
it will get better.
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And maybe one day,somebody will go to you,
How, how did you, are you just lucky?
How did you become so amazing?
And you'll smile and say, Oh man,you want to hear the back story?
Thank you for listening to thisepisode of conversation with Kimen.
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and feel free to direct message me.
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